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Does /fph/ respect sumo wrestlers?
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>>77190136
They used to contest it at world's strongest man
https://youtu.be/B2qCBkXrb8s
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>>77190136
Most sumo wrestlers in the top division have alot of muscle and incredibly strong legs. Some are even cut like Asakoryu here. There are very few who are as obese as ops pic. Even the heaviest atm Atamifuji is around 410 pounds and doesnt even look close as disgusting to the guy in ops pic. Sumo is so fun to watch and its a great time to jump in. All the new talent is young and eager to prove themselves after the gap Hakuho left behind
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real sumo wresstler, for the record
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>>77190471
i'd say i respect most sports, i simply respect sumo more
but since you asked, "sports" i outright don't respect would include
>saber fencing (epee and foil OK)
>anything with horses
>WWE-style wrestling
>surfing
>sailing
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>>77190473
Racing is pretty nuts and has a crazy physical toll on the body. Breathing exercises, reaction times and neck exercises. On hot days they can lose 7 lbs of weight
Golf is a very skilled sport, with high mental fortitude. Probably the hardest of all sports to be "professional" at. I'd say hardest to make a living, but tennis clears that by a mile, and is more of a niche sport outside of slams.
Pool/billiards is the one for me, darts a close second.
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>>77190136
History behind it is cool, their training methods are retarded. Stable format is dumb, and it only managed to survive because it's considered "culturally critical" to sumo. It would be a much more interesting sport if there was an international federation, but Japs would never accept it.
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>>77190441
>only to earn pennies
Once you become a sekitori, you start making around six figures. Plus, when you reach Makuuchi you can get sponsors and sell your hand print and stuff. A yokozuna could make half a million a year easily. It pales in comparison to something like baseball but if you're really good you're not getting paid pennies.
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>>77191491
Lmao no, you couldnt "just push him around"
I swear it's hilarious what some /fit/ anons think they can do because they 1 repped 250 on bench. Sumo is also about balance not just strength. You'd get thrown out of the ring in less than 10 seconds and land on some old Japanese businessman in the front row
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>>77191499
Ok and what if I get the single leg or hips and can just pick them up effortlessly?
>muh grappling defense
I'm a literal expert, you step into them. I do deadlifts specifically for suplexes and hip tosses.
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>>77191640
I've seen men play soccer and even the best of them it's hard to watch. To me that means nobody excels at it much more than elementary school girls. I suppose men could beat elementary school girls at soccer. That's like saying you can take a bigger dildo in your ass, yeah it probably requires some effort but it's not really something to brag about.
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>>77191499
I have somewhere around double his upper body power. Yes I can push him around. I'll, ma fight him with 1 hand.
>nuh uh
I will post a discord link, if you are actually halfway capable though I'll have to use both hands.
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>>77191224
NTA but I would say sports that have no objective criteria for winning. Like bodybuilding. In most sports, you put the ball in the thing and score points and whoever has the most points wins. In bodybuilding or whatever it's left up to the subjective opinion of the judge.
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>>77191473
Yeah a Yokozuna can pull $500,000+ a year, which is nothing to turn your nose up at, and at the same time the lowest starter contract in the lowest paid professional sport in the US is $750,000 a year with the NHL. Most pro athletes are legitimately massively overpaid from a dozen difference revenue sources but sumo wrestlers are critically underpaid for what that lifestyle demands from them.
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>>77191202
Chiyonofuji my beloved
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>>77191491
So you'd fight a sumo on literally his bread and butter? (Pushing and knocking people down, strength and balance)
I'd say worst match up ever but chess or a mental sport is clearly your biggest weakness and the hardest you'll lose at you fucking retard
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They only do one match per day
This is the only thing I don’t like about this sport
>baseball 9 innings
>golf 18 holes
>mma 3 rounds
>wrestling 11 points
>bjj until submission
>boxing 11 rounds
In sumo they do their sport for 5 seconds then they get to chill until the next day
Something about that seems dumb
In American football, linemen conduct 45+ sumo matches PER HALF, think about that sumo nerds
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>>77191224
motocross in particular must be tiring as fuck, you constantly have to tame your bike by pushing and pulling and stabilizing it with your entire body
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>>77191224
The main issue with "engine sports" is that everyone has different vehicles, and that difference oftenly decides the course of many races.
If everyone raced with the same vehicle then it would look like a real sport.
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>>77194217
The main issue with "body sports" is that everyone has different bodies, and that difference oftenly decides the course of many events.
If everyone completed with the same body then it would look like a real sport.
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>>77190485
I think Onosato is pushing 420 pounds recently
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>>77191491
Tactic for taking down this man? He can not be knocked off balance and will be charging you at shin level
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>>77193525
https://youtu.be/wvmT3DXuDkA?si=las6sRJM4n7_rQaS
Made me think of this informercial for thirty years ago lol
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>>77193525
Yep, same with enduro racing - arms, legs, basically a whole body workout.
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>>77191951
isn't finding a winner under a predetermined set of rules the definition of sports? In my opinion it is. Otherwise you would have to find that arbitrary line what's sport and what isn't.
I know that some worldwide sports organisation made it part of the definition that it has to be in some way physically exhausting, but I think that's bullshit for said reasons.
Everything you can have a competition in, that has rules and a winner and a loser is a sport in my opinion, everything else is fitness or art, like in dance and ballet.
E-Sports, Darts, Billard, Golf, Racing are all sports and are broadcasted on sports networks and commented by sports commentator.
Also the idea of being a good sport fits with that definition.
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How on earth does one bulk to such massive sizes? I’ve never been able to break 320. And whenever I’m over 300 I just feel like death constantly. How do these guys do it?
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>>77191473
only about 10% of rikishi are sekitori at a given time, the other 90% of sumo wrestlers earn diddly squat. there are guys with 10+ year careers in sumo who earn less than a part-time doordash driver. meanwhile, the base salary for an NFL benchwarmer is nearly $900,000
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>>77197011
Watch any video of these guys eating and you'll see them pouring hot broth or tea into bowls of rice and just drinking it to get the stuff down when they start to hit their limit for that meal. They eat really fucking clean but still get those dirty meals in of course. On a nontraining day where they're just resting and eating all day, how much McDonald's do you think these guys could put down in a sitting?
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>>77197011
setting up a restaurant across the street from the local sumo club must be incredibly profitable
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They sacrifice their lifespan in order for a CHANCE to gain fame and money. There are studies on sumo wrestler lifespans, even if they retire early and lose the weight they live 10 years less at least. East Asians are EXTREMELY vulnerable to the deleterious effects of obesity, they simply cannot handle it.
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>>77197076
Not a skill the racer has
that ferrari is willing to spend double the amount of money so a team of engineers who never drives the car can make it objectively better is not remotely the same as one boxer, who still trained hard as he can, have a slight advantage because he's naturally taller
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dosukoi
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>>77196901
sumo is sick
out of all the combat sports it has the most theater and action.
mma sucks. boxing is an acquired taste. kickboxing and muay thai are also an acquired taste and have issues with making stars since k1 died.
its such a good sport to get into
but im new to it anyway so whatever
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>>77203471
>out of all the combat sports it has the most theater and action.
True
It's just a shame that traditional sumo training methods are so shit
All good sumo wrestlers either come from another wrestling discipline or use modern training methods
It's quite funny actually
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Bruh because of this fucking post I got obsessed with sumo lmao. I legitimately wish I had any interest in this before, this shit is fascinating honestly.
Today I learned these motherfuckers have the biggest Fat-Free Mass (and Fat-Free Mass Index) recorded among all elite athletes.
>but why dont they look incredibly muscular
Well, first of all is the obvious fuckhuge amount of subcutaneous fat which certainly covers their muscles, but also apparently the thing they naturally develop is their core (not just abs but spinal erector) and the legs (but not in a retarded chicken-drum way as bodybuilders do.
If any of you faggots also wants to read any sumo-related manga, I already investigated that: Hinomaru Sumo
Yer welcome.
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i was listening to a famous sumo try to argue sumo's are not fat.
He said he weighed 150, and that means 110 of his bodyweight is muscle the rest is fat.
But he left out the weight of the bones and organs, which would be around 20-28 kilos.
So more like 90kg of muscle
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Terrified of their own gay thoughts
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>>77203782
Comes with the country, japan still is very bound by that kind of traditionalist mindset in some regards, making out basic routines into being holy acts that shouldn't be altered. A sumo stable isn't just a team of wrestlers, its an institution which has trained great rikishi for generations, what was good enough for their forebears will be good enough for them and so on. Just general holdovers militaristic organizations, knightly orders and noble houses and such. Though, unlike faggy shit like frat houses, sumo still has reason to be proud of putting up with some levels of retardation, making sure everyone part of their stable can feel honored for being there.
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>tfw women's sumo was banned for a long while, and never recovered
Japan is such a svelotoid nation.