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What is the 1/2/3/4 of cardio?
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>>77200435
I was also wondering but in terms of distance only. I mean it feels like being able to run 5 k at any speed comfortably should be every runners first goal, then work towards 10. And then it seems like that regardless the skill level most people either spam 5ks or 10ks, with occasional longer runs.
I wonder what these magic distance numbers are for swimming and cycling and rowing. For swimming I usually go for 2k and for cycling 40k. I'd like to get into rowing but I don't know what's a base distance I should aim for.
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>>77200574
Distance is easy if you're jogging along at victim pace and fueling regularly.
Once you reach the base fitness to run a 10k without stopping you can practically extend that to the half marathon straight away and then a marathon with a bit more training and fueling practice.
Actually running them fast is another story.
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>>77200483
I personally found a sub20min 5k to be harder than hitting 2/3/4/5. Only time I did it was moving from Idaho (high elevation) to Wisconsin (low elevation). Had to take advantage of the greater available oxygen to do it
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>>77200445
these are entirely unrealistic.
7 minute multiple miles at adult weight is rough m8. you feel like an elephant every step and it's unsustainable for long term lifestyle changes where it would force you to lose weight to get better.
t. runner and hiker at 220lbs for 20 years
i am the heaviest guy in every group, stamina dictates I can go as far as the strongest in any group, but speed is a completely different factor.
You're basically asking for the 0.1-0.5% of humans past 200lbs and that is not comparable to 1/2/3/4 which is top 1-5% of the human population. No matter how big or small you are, you can reach 1/2/3/4.
Depending on how big or small you are 1/2/3/4(cardio) with these metrics is super genetics.
>>77200435
Going to use running as our indicator metric.
>60-120s (30 minutes) at sprint BPM.
Size is irrelevant and your ability to actually sprint for multiple minutes is the basic measurement.
>2 mile sub 15 minutes
bare minimum sustained cardio measurement for men
>25 mile hike (no breaks, must be moving, but no time limit any speed)
>5 mile sub 45 minutes
seems pretty reasonable and 99% of the population cannot do it.
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>>77200620
>30 minute 2 mile
>I personally found a sub20min 5k to be harder than hitting 2/3/4/5
Are you even fucking trying to run?
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>>77200435
It's hard to give a triathlon time, because elevation can vary from basicaly 0 to 1000m from on event to another. But it shouldn't be too hard to go sub 3h on a olympic triathlon.
>>77200445
>he thinks a 13s effort is cardio
lol, LMFAO even. No wonders your proposed time for a mile and a 5K are so fucking slow.
>>77200858
>marathon pace is only 15s/km slower than 5k
I know these are nice round numbers but some are clearly way harder than others.
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>>77200611
>Once you reach the base fitness to run a 10k without stopping you can practically extend that to the half marathon straight away and then a marathon with a bit more training and fueling practice.
I tried something like that and it nuked my knees lol. I had the cardio fitness to do a half but my muscular endurance wasn't up to par which lead to worse running form after ~13km and increased stress on ligaments and shit.
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>>77201021
You mean jogging.
You're using fucking buzzwords to explain JOGGING.
You are not doing "vo2max intervals" you are fucking running a 2 mile at 20 minutes but you are making it sound like something else so no one judges you on how average that really is.
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>>77201042
No you fucking retard I am referring to a decent standard that someone would run if they had good vo2max fitness, ergo a distance analagous to their 15-20 minute race pace.
2 miles is not 5km you uneducated fuckwit
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>>77201051
I can't tell if I'm replying to some ultramaratroon who thinks a mile is a sprint or some high school kid who gases out at anything longer than 200 metres
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>>77201064
What are you arguing here, this anon >>77201051 is implying the mile is not a middle distance event
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>>77200435
slow, relaxed walks in nature
a few sets of sprints or HIIT 1-2x a week
long distance cardio is cucked lol imagine doing that unironically
picrel is literally you
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>>77201239
1 plate ohp, 2 plate bench press, 3 plate squat, 4 plate deadlift. 1 plate is 20 kilos, but you have one on each side, plus the bar. So 1 plate overhead press is 60 kilos etc. Many people say if you do strength training you should strive to reach these numbers.
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>>77200445
100m isn't aerobic. 400m is to a point, but won't feel like it if run properly.
Problem with running is that talent, bodyweight and age have a huge influence on performance, which is why people get so caught up in VO2 numbers.
Maybe have something like:
1. Continuous run 30 mins/
2. Continuous run 1 hour
3. 5k @ 50 ml/kg.min equivalent race result (there are tables out there)
4. 10k @ 65ml/kg.min equivalent race result.
I knew/know athletes who could knock out a stupidly fast 800/1500s but would suffer over 10k, others running mid 60s half marathons that would struggle to break 2 for 800. Both groups extremely fit.
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>>77202892
very nice
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>>77201001
sorry bud, you’re fat.
second opinion is in.
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>>77200435
having zero upper body strength/sucking cock/telling people to kill themselves for running a 25:00 5k/spam reposting your highschool times on the internet when you're balding, wasting, bitchless, friendless, and in your 30s
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>>77204904
now say that without running out of breath
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>>77204914
>yeah here's one, 2 world wars we had to bail you out of.
Who are you referring to by 'we'? Of the countries involved in WW1, only the british empire and the US were using the imperial system (as far as I know). The british struggled as much as anyone else, and the US barely participated in the war.
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>>77205238
>>yeah here's one, 2 world wars we had to bail you out of.
>Who are you referring to by 'we'? Of the countries involved in WW1, only the british empire and the US were using the imperial system (as far as I know). The british struggled as much as anyone else, and the US barely participated in the war.
you dont have to do this
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>>77205238
USA ends wars which is why we tend to come in at the end. We used to at least. Recent ones have been clusterfucks. I ain’t gonna posture nationalism anymore I was pissy when I wrote that and it doesn’t even matter really. Shit happened before any of our time.
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>>77201239
number of pl8s for a given lift
1pl8 overhead press (135lbs)
2pl8 bench press (225)
3pl8 squat (315)
4pl8 deadlift (405)
It is both simple to remember but also that these numbers are reasonably achievable to 90%+ of the male population within 2 years of natural training and dieting (as low as six months with any physical history and natural bulk) but really only the top 5% of men are capable of doing it as they're the ones who have put the effort into it
So it would be what different cardio exercises and runs that are reasonably achievable for the majority of the male population within a couple years of practice.
The constant suggestions of sprints and marathons as opposed to any kind of olympic laps or rucking/hiking shows how roon brained people are. The 4 different compound lifts are all chosen specifically because their combination covers the entire body, working different muscles and skillsets, making every single cardio test a different kind of run is dumb. At a certain point the sprints aren't even a test of cardio fitness.
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you know nobody on /fit/ actually does cardio (or even works out) where people are saying a sub 20 5k is equivalent to 6-12 months of weightlifting to get 1/2/3/4
Less than 2% of the world population is capable of this, anyone whose ran for longer than a week understands the time, work and mental fortitude needed to even get close to a sub 22
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>>77206740
As I understand it using your cardio ability without making up for the weight loss with more carbs and protein makes you lose both fat and muscle mass.
polls.io/cnjrb/vote
And the TOP-tier marathon runners and sprinters deliberately keep themselves thin to be lighter.
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>>77200973
>>he thinks a 13s effort is cardio
>lol, LMFAO even. No wonders your proposed time for a mile and a 5K are so fucking slow.
Bro, it's a fucking 1/2/3/4 thread. The times aren't meant to be impressive, they're meant to be "entry level cardio goals where, when achieved, you might be able to say you run a little bit".
You just outted yourself as a DYEL twink if you thought it was meant to be difficult goals, and not something you can accomplish within a year of starting.
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