>>77212321
Vodka has pretty low calories I think but I don’t know what was Dahmer’s choice of drink, probably beer.

>>77212369
Alcohol just make my face red and bloated and disgusting looking for the next few days. Its not just about the calories

From my anecdotal experience alcohol puts you in stasis. If you’re drinking it every day you’re working harder to maintain while at risks of slipping down faster if you ease up at all.

>>77212321
If you drink often through the week, it will destroy your sleep, cause you to binge eat/eat shitty food and drink less water. Also seems to cause a lot of people to bloat in the face for days or weeks after. I drink a lot, but only keep minced beef and fruit in my fridge and have no acess to ubereats or fast food where I live, also crush tons of water after a binge. I've drunk 750ml of rum every week for about a 4 months, I haven't noticed any difference in appearance besides worsening bags under eyes because of the bad sleep it causes. Still super lean, but I also work a tough job and dont eat till I get home and workout most days. Short answer is, if you are already a gross slob, drinking will turn you into a bigger even grosser slob. Genetics also plays a roll probably.

>>77212321
Dahmer was 31 when apprehended 34 when executed.

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There at least used to be athletes who could simultaneously play professionally on top level and drink themselves into a coma.

>>77212321
not for long. young guys can get away with weekend bingeing bc their bodies rebound like rubber, but once you're a 7 days a week garden variety alchie, it's just a matter of time. half or more of your calories are coming from a giga-antinutrient, you're constantly dehydrated, you're sleeping like shit, the food you do eat is probably very low quality, you're likely skipping out on exercise a lot, and when you do exercise your injury risk has to increase tenfold

>>77212769
pro athletes can be an exception because their lives are literally catered to as far as athletic performance goes. life off the field is centered around recovery, you are provided high-quality meals around the clock, you have doctors and trainers available at a moment's notice, you're rich so you can afford whatever you want, and if you need a pick-me-up before or after training they just poke you with an IV. athletes also were naturally athletic enough to go pro in the first place

Unironically was at my fittest when I was half-assing 1-2 gym sessions/week while getting shitfaced 3-4 days a week. Before that, I was lifting religiously. Probably had more to do with increased rest, but still

>>77212369
Whisky and beer I think, at least when he was in high school

>>77212321
When youre young and have good genetics (slim build), yes. When you get older (40s) probably not unless youre a freak, so lets just go with no. People like me (easy to mass up), hell no. Too many calories.

>>77212444
he was a victim of murder, not executed

>>77212321
He had a good diet - well seasoned - high protein.

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>>77212321
I, personally, am unable to balance alcohol and being lean.

>>77212321
I'm 24 and relatively /fit/ and (heavily) drinking three days in a row really sucks as you will feel like shit the next one or two days.
drinking on Friday and on Saturday or Sunday is probably the sweet spot for social and physical gains

>>77213520
wypeepo don season dey niggas

>>77212369
no such thing as "low calories", calories come from alcohol, and most vodkas are 40%+

>>77212321
I bet he eats five guys

I am going to be getting drunk pretty much every weekend for the forseeable future.

If I keep a strict diet and lift and do cardio during the weekdays can I overcome it? I am also in my 30s which adds another layer of difficulty. But on TRT which kind of balances it out.

>>77212321
Technically if you drink 2 drinks per day you're an alcoholic. But this will have negligible impact. Alcoholism is a problem if you're getting so fucked that you can't lift hard or recover. Also if you're drinking like 10+ beers most days that's a huge amount of calories. Less room for beneficial macros.

>>77215488
>I'm 24 and relatively /fit/ and (heavily) drinking three days in a row really sucks as you will feel like shit the next one or two days.
I'm 32 and if I drank heavy for three days in a row I would actually require hospitalization. Althoughbeit I am sure your definition of heavy drinking is like 8-10 beers in a night.

>>77216116
When you say getting drunk every weekend do you mean getting drunk one time throughout the entire weekend, or do you mean you will be drunk FOR the entire weekend? If you're only getting drunk once a week I don't think it will impact your results much. Obviously, you're much better off just cutting it out completely but that's not exactly feasible for a lot of people.

>>77215928
a dark beer can have 2-3x the calories of a shot of vodka for the same amount of ethanol.

>>77216116
i suggest altering the course of your life, i don't know what is causing you to need to get shitfaced every weekend, but doing so beyond the age of 25 is genuinely pretty miserable

>>77212321
Yes but it will be harder. Can you be a 100M sprinter who wears a weighted backpack? Yes, but it will be harder than if you didn't wear the backpack.

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>>77212321
Nope. You eventually become so much of a slave to the bottle that going to the gym is not possible anymore.

>>77216116
Yeah that was me. Eventually the weekends included Fridays because why not - it's technically at the end of the week right? Then Mondays too - because give me a break man, it's the start of the week, I've had a hard day so I deserve this man.

And then I didn't even bother bargaining anymore and drank every single fucking day.

Alcohol is fucking evil.

>>77212321
Kinda. Alcohol damages you in ways that take a long time to add up. If you're otherwise living a healthy lifestyle, you can keep up a good physique for a while, a couple decades if you're lucky and not going too insane with the booze. It will eventually catch up to you though, you'll start to get more bloated and sallow and disgusting and eventually die.

>>77216116
Imo as you get into your 30s there is no amount of getting drunk besides very rare (less than once a month) that will not have a substantial negative impact on your health and well-being. You can get buzzed once or twice a week, but any amount of getting drunk is too much. Getting drunk is getting poisoned, your body could tolerate it and bounce back when it was young but it can't any more, adjust your habits to your new reality or suffer.

No, it will catch up with you. Maybe a 1% chance if you burn 1000 calories a day with cardio or something. Even then, no way.

>>77217495
Youre right. Ill have to limit myself to like 5 beers. Which is all I really need anyway to get social lubrication I need to make friends and meet girls and all the things I want. But its a slippery slope because once you have had 5 beers your judgment gets bad enough that you can be convinced to drink more

>>77212321
Maybe in your teens or early 20's, but not after 25.