he obviously doesnt train anything at all, and no one told him to keep his shirt on when he's off cycle

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>>77212794
Grim. I keep telling you guys to fucking train your abs and your obliques. Not training abs was a psyop. Abs and obliques are the most important muscles for aesthetics NO DOUBT.

>>77212794
Wrong boogeyman you retard, why would this guy tell you that ? That's not even powerlifting rhetoric, maybe beginner powerlifter rhetoric.
The most common meme is that they're built in muh kitchen

>>77212794
That guy doesnt lift at all

>>77212802
when did people finally wake up to this? Ive seen the pendulum swing fully from one side to the other. The "made in the kitchen" meme was extremely popular before but now im seeing it less and less. I guess people finally realized ignoring half of your torso made no fucking sense.

>>77212794
>I hate this youtube guy so much I watch his videos all day long and make gossip threads about him 10x day.
buy an ad nigger

>>77212935
They didnt, barely anyone trains their abs and if they do it's meme unweighted or endurance isometric hold bs
It's just less parroted and more ingrained, you just have to bring it up into the discussion

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>>77212794
Kek, he looks pathetic in unedited photos

And big compounds working the core is true, but only when you get really strong. Obviously if your OHP is sub 1pl8 and you're only squatting 2.5pl8, deadlifting 3pl8, it ain't gonna do shit. When you can OHP 1.5pl8 for reps and deadlift >4pl8 you're getting some serious core work in. It just won't work the core while you're still weak

If you're gonna train abs all you need is dragonflags and hanging leg raises anyway, at least 2 days a week, and with proper intensity (more than just 1 half arsed set at the end of your session)

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>roiding your entire youth to look like a natty who works out occasionally

>>77212794
you train your core by doing compound movements, yes. theres a big difference between compound movements and Compound Movements™ sponsored by /fit/. a lot more exercises to be done than just squats and deadlifts

Please give abs routine

>>77212935
>when did people finally wake up to this?
I made a post on here back in 2019 about it, and that's what caused the cascade effect. A few people did it, saw results, posted about it, and eventually it got to some youtubers who started preaching for it.
It was entirely due to me. You're all welcome.

>>77213378
He’s like 6 foot tall and 155 pounds on gear.

>>77212798
>Not training abs was a psyop.
This.

>>77212802
>That's not even powerlifting rhetoric
Why do you lie? It was /fit/ gospel for the last 15 years.

>>77212945
>and if they do it's meme unweighted or endurance isometric hold
Because they want a slim waist, not a bulky one. Bearmode is over.

>>77213492
I was video-chatting earlier today with a 5'9" foid who legit frame-mogged him, but of course she turned out to be a lesbian because discord. :-(

When I see people doing crunches and planks for hours at the gym I cringe. You can just do L-sits, leg raises and tuck planche and work your core more and save time

>>77213397
situps, crunches, bicycles (when you raise one leg while on ur back and touch elbow to the knee across, then for other side), jack knifes, russian twists, planks. if you have access to machines in a gym, assisted crunch machine is good, as well as the oblique rotator machine.

there you go. the key though is to do them slow and controlled like any other exercise. somewhat quick concentric motion, then slow eccentric motion. people ego this shit so much, doing super fast explosive/ballstic things that don't do shit. go really slowly and feel the constant burn/twitching of your abs while doing these.

on an unrelated note, I accidentally fapped an hour ago, and I have to be in the gym in 2 hours. how fucked am I for force output? fuck.

>>77213518
desu I don't understand why people do mat exercises in the gym. shit takes the most time and it's easy to do at home with some light music on in a more comfortable environment. who tf wants to be in the corner of one of the dance studio or exercise rooms at the gym for 30+ minutes doing core work lol.

imho gyms are for things you can't do at home with all the equipment.

>>77213503
sexual orientation is fake and gay and lesbianism is the fakest and gayest of them all. Trust me you can still hit

>>77213397
dragon flags, hanging leg raises, l sit pull-ups
sometimes cable crunches

is ab wheel enough?

>>77212798
>lifting for aesthetics
just say you love sucking penises

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>>77215498
Didn't know picrel posted on 4chan!

>>77212794
>decline abs heavy close to chest and to the side and shit
Even peak roided his core thickness is shit. You should have a thick enough chest and lats not a shifty core.

>>77213400
I also called out this bullshit advice for years
>yeah bro just like dont train your abs at all, squats work out your abs, i'd prove it to you but im bulking right now, but trust me bro when I finished this 5 years bulk i swear I'll have abs

Crazy an entire generation of retards fell for this shit, it's just a cope lazy retards made up because doing abs fucking sucks and it hurts and is actual pain and is not fun but it's probably the most important thing of all to workout if you're going purely for aesthetics but the entire bodybuilding community just completely ignores it

Same as the "cardio kills gains" grift, cardio sucks, it hurts, it's a real test of your mental capabilities, you actually ahve to push through pain and discomfort, so people lie and act like a jog around the block will eat all their gains when really you need to be an super ultra marathon type running 8 hours a day and even then it probably won't impact your gains at all.

>>77213497
Also this, not needing to do abs was always powershitter cope, powershitters will never have abs, they don't want you to have abs, and they want to lie and cope that their dream 6 pack is already exists but they are to fat and cool to care about it

>>77213498
Aka not powerlifting rhetoric
The SS shit was some sort of psychosis too, no one who lifted preached it

>>77212802
>The most common meme is that they're built in muh kitchen
they say do exercise AND watch your diet. you dont get a sixpack eating rice cakes and no one says that. you just have to have a good diet to look good, thats literally all it means, exercise and dont eat like shit, or it wont matter. fucking morons online have to take everything to the extreme and act like they found out some discovery and deboonked a meme.

crazy how the entire bb community just collectively decided to pretend abs dont exist, like at all, they're never talked about, "ab day" does not exist, a literal crunch machine that makes doing and getting abs easy mode and everyone just walks by it as it collects dust, 5 minute cable crunches twice a week and you got abs, even pro bodybuilders look like absolute shit and neglect them, imagine if to compete you had to have good abs, but instead the judges are basically like "yeh your mid section is fat and bloated and you look retarded but we dont care about that because HOLY SHIT THOSE LATS LOOK AT THE HAMSTRINGS".

Truth is everyone's just a junky that wants to do the stuff that looks hard to outsiders but in truth its easy and feels good to do while they make gay speeches about hard work, discipline and dedication as if any of this shit was hard when in reality they throw a fucking tantrum like a drug addict if someone was to get in the way of them doing their chest day or squat day

>>77212794
Abs are what make you actually have to go from half hearted building to lifestyle with macros and cuts.

Obviously you can put in a ton of work to be huge and just eat whatever but if you want abs you have no choice but to start planning cutting/bulking cycles and counting calories.

It's not for everyone but I find maintaining abs quite a fun challenge and yes they probably contribute more to torso aesthetics than any other muscle.

>>77215879
The actual quote was
>abs are made in the gym, but revealed in the kitchen

lazy retards dropped the entire "made in the gym" part so they could continue being lazy coping retards

>>77213397
I like Scott Hermans. Basically alternating abs and obliques. Weighted leg raises, cable crunches.

Avoids many of the back wreckers. Though I will say I can find cable oblique hammers can aggravate my old bulged disc sometimes.

>>77212794
im so proud of yall in this thread. Brings a tear to my eye seeing people train abs after millenials ignored it.

Not training your abs is silly. Just do a few sets of abs three times a week after your regular workouts and you will be good. It takes like an additional 5 minutes max.

>>77215879
No one says that

>>77215541
Her lift was so explosive

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How many pounds do you anons think I need to lose for defined abs?
I can already kind of see the 4 upper ones under hard lighting (not in this pic though), but it's been taking a long while losing the last of my fat.

>>77215963
You need to start lifting

>>77215963
You need to bulk. I could literally rape you with ease, how does that make you feel?

>>77215954
kek

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>>77215969
Nah, I'm happy with my muscle mass.
All I want is abs, so I can return to maintaining and eating sour gummies.

>>77212798
Tore my abdominal wall training abs. Got a hernia. Now I look like shit

>>77215969
Not a heterosexual thought, my guy.

>>77215963
>>77215973
Were you skinnyfat before you started lifting?

>>77212979
So just push your OHP+Squat+DL up so they train abs.

>>77217210
if you actually believe the powershitter psyop that squats workout abs you're retarded

>>77215932
everyone does

>>77217210
Yeah, when you get genuinely strong they do give the abs a lot of work. The issue is when you get some idiot OHPing fucking 40kg and squatting 100kg saying "WhY tHiS wEIgHt nO bUiLD AbS"

an 80kg OHP and 160kg squat takes a genuinely strong core

>>77212794
From this flex that looks like a solid base if not better than usual for thick core and big upper body proportions. Usually it's hard to have a big core and a chest to match. Of course you need big lats/delts/traps like cmon it's the 2020s I personally want to look like I can grab someone by the wrist and rip their arm off have some goals.

>>77215969
Why are powerlifters such faggots? It seems like most people here prefer to fuck trannies instead of actual women. Is it the hormones?

>>77215969
>bad at posing
>bad at full chest development
>therefore all else stagnates or plateaus
I'll coach him I'll teach him how to go from getting bent over and buttfucked to being the one straddling your ass and spreading your cheeks.

>>77216840
Just regular fat.
Is it over?

>>77217650
A strong core from squatting does not give you visible abs retard, squatting works your Transverse Abdominis, AKA the INNER CORE muscles, these muscles ARE NEVER VISIBLE AND ARE NOT RELATED TO THE VISIBLE 6 PACK MUSCLES AT ALL.

This is why you "squats are a core workout, therefore squats will give me abs" are such fucking retards, SQUATS WILL NEVER GIVE YOU ABS, YOU ARE NOT WORKING OUT YOUR 6 PACK MUSCLES BY DOING SQUATS YOU RETARD.

"Outer core muscles, or "global muscles," are the superficial, powerful muscles responsible for trunk movement (bending, twisting, lifting) and generating overall strength. These fast-twitch muscles include the rectus abdominis, obliques, erector spinae, and glutes. They differ from the deep "inner" core (stabilizers) by acting as primary movers rather than deep stabilizers"

ARE YOU FUCKING BENDING AND TWISTING WHEN YOU DO A SQUAT YOU FAT FUCK?
NO?
THEN YOU ARE NOT BUILDING VISIBLE ABS IN ANY CAPACITY.

Holy fuck this absolute powershitter cope meme that squats are an ab workout needs to die I cant believe you retards actually fall for this shit

>>77212794
This dude is a heeb cock sleeve. I wonder how many times he had to suck Hai Waknine's dick.

>>77215973
good physique depending on your age. early 20s is good, just loose 3 kilo girls will dig.. late 20s kinda small

>>77212794
clav is so cute, i wanna hug him

>>77212794
True dat, i hate that i fell for the meme, and kept thinking i just needed to cut more and more, when in fact i had to train them like any other fucking muscle

>>77215498
Its the opposite man, no woman gives a fuck about your 1rm, but she well suck your balls through the tip like boba tea if you have an adonis belt

>>77215963
You have decent shoulder definition but your belly looks pudgy, i think you are the example of what op means, you can go on cutting, but you need to actually train your abs

>>77212798
>>77213545
Is it worth training obliques? I already have relatively wide hips. I'm going for the V-taper look so I train abs but skip obliques as I don't want to make my waist blocky.

>>77212794
Nah he doesn't train at all yet he still looks like that because he's on roids. If he was off roids he'd be chubby by now.

>>77217823
Well I'm not lean enough to see much abs but I certainly built some obliques doing just the big lifts.

>>77220849
Although I am lean enough that I should have more visible abs than I do so maybe you are right. I guess we'll see when I lose a bit more

Imagine saying this when you're 30.

What was that.

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>>77212794
>yeah bro don't overtrain legs, is for gays
>wheelchair racer is the ultimate build bro
>u mirin muh 14" calves bruh?

>>77215541
She literally leg-mogs Clav.

>>77215498
True but core is genuinely important and there's a biological reason for 6-packs being desirable

how is he that cute?

>>77220421
I do, but I just found out I have a small loose skin pouch, even though I was never that fat, so It's unlikely they'll ever be that defined.
Still, I'll keep training them, so at least the four upper ones show a bit more.

>>77221203
twink + autism
best combo

>>77221151
Holy cow, how do those twigs support a human body?

>>77213545
What is this, actual exercise advice on /fit/? Is it April Fools Day again?

>>77212794
You think this clown does compound lifts? Nigger please.

>>77215973
Sour gummies are goated
I easilly give up all other splources of sugar except that.