Thread #77215314
HomeIndexCatalogAll ThreadsNew ThreadReply
H
File: goal_bod.jpg (185.8 KB)
185.8 KB
185.8 KB JPG
I need to reduce my exhaustion after work and the gym. Even well rested I just feel like dog and can't get anything done..
>inb4 sleep apnea
nah, tested too.

Just. Without Caffeine. Caffeine is nice for the day, but then I don't sleep properly and the next day is just wasted.
I hear L-Theanine helps but idk, haven't tried it.

Anyone tried nootropics like Ginkgo Bilboa or Rhodiola Rosea? I read online they give a "boost" without the caffeine spike.
+Showing all 28 replies.
>>
I wish my parents didnt feed me literal shit and bar me from doing sports and i wish i werent sick all the time
My starting point couldve been this instead i have to work through puberty gyno and being overweight most my life, at least im not morbidly obese but whatever
>>
>>77215316
Hey man at least you're starting, good on ya
I used to get sick a lot too, I rec trying the "preventative" sprays (throat and nose) if you feel something coming on and eating a lot of homemade fermented foods.
It's pricey yo start and a chunk of work but it's helped my overall health a ton
>>
>>77215323
Yeah thanks i've been off meds since i were 15 or 14 iirc, doing much better now like genuinely
I wish i started at normal weight nonetheless but at least i leveraged my fatness into speedrunning 2/3/4/5
>>
>>77215314
Maybe your sleep is shit for reasons other than sleep apnea
Ashwagandha might help
>>
>>77215314
stretching and rolling a tennis ball
>>
>>77215536
>Maybe your sleep is shit for reasons other than sleep apnea
Literally nobody mentioned sleep apnea
>Ashwagandha
Stop promoting this fad meme supplement
>>
>>77215314
cover the basics first, before even speaking of herbal compounds
>not to deep in deficit
>enough carbs
>enough fats
>enough protein
>very strong hydration
>zone 2 work
>micronutrients(iron/magnesium/zinc/d3)
theanine i personally like to shut down anxiety, almost puts you in a robotic clear headed mindspace but it's not an energy boost
>>
>>77215623
I did
in the OP

>>77215646
I'd say I've got these covered decently well.
My diet is pretty limited just by what I -can- eat (stomach stuff) so I eat pretty clean and don't lose weight.
I do two strength sessions in the gym and do zone 2 cardio on the weekends, so I'd say a pretty average routine
>>
>>77215314
methylated b vitamin complex
It's a process your body normally does to absorb and utilize them but they're just easier to use if it's already done. Some people's bodies just get shit at doing it themselves and makes them super lethargic and don't have a lot of the signs of other shit being wrong.
>>
File: IMG_4198.jpg (519.6 KB)
519.6 KB
519.6 KB JPG
>>77215314
it might have something to do with eating habits if you are constantly crashing your insulin try eating low glycemic index foods. Another thing you could try is to just learn to be able to do things without feeling good, meditation will help with that.

To be fair, there is a limit to what you can do in a day and recover after, not just physically at the gym also mentally as well, but if you make a habit then eventually it will cost less and less.
>>
>>77215742
VitB felt like caffeine the first time I tried it, like a spike of energy, then every other time it was basically nothing.
I guess I had a deficiency when I first took it but then didn't any time after that? I heard vitamins work that way (they bring you down if you're deficient, but do nothing once you're on normal levels)
>>
>>77217314
Bouncing back always feels bigger than just living but it is still doing something.
>>
>>77215623
It works for me
I don’t expect it to work for everybody
>>
>>77217621
It's like you didn't even read the post before replying.
>>
>>77215314
artist?
>>
>>77215314
My typical pre-workout includes caffeine, l-theanine, ginseng, and rhodiola for the stimmy stack. Way better than str8 caffeine, can keep the caffeine doses low enough (<300mg) to not jitters.
>>
>>77218997
>caffeine doses low enough
>(<300mg)
anon...
>>
>>77219181
I start jittering a little at around 400mg, kek.
>>
>>77215314
modafinil, most "nootropics" are placebo
>>
>>77219234
>modafinil
that's a controlled substance in most places
idfk why tho if caffeine is allowed
>>
>>77218997
>>77219226
Post body
>>
>>77219290
>Why can I buy a bottle of ginseng off of Amazon, but I can't get ritalin over the counter?

Truly a mystery
>>
>>77219513
caffeine is extremely powerful and addictive but it's normalized and a huge market
same with alcohol and nicotine
>>
>>77215314
take a nap. 30 minutes nap is better than being tired for hours
>>
>>77219813
The fact that you're comparing caffeine to alcohol and modafinil makes it clear you are beyond being reasoned with.
>>
What is your diet like? Problem is most likely bad micronutrients or bad blood sugar curve which are both overdetermined by diet
>>
>>77219962
breakfast
A bit of watermelon or grapes
some nuts
Very light, I usually just sip on plain green tea until lunch

Lunch (after work)
Big meal with rice and meat and usually a salad (veggies, with lemon juice and salt, I don't like heavy sauces)
kefir and kraut

Dinner
A sandwich with sliced meat and veg and kraut
a lot of kefir and homemade yogurt
that's roundabout my usual. Sometimes I have a sammich for lunch and rice for dinner, sometimes it's rice twice. I also occasionally have a coffee instead of tea but that's the just of it..

>>77218982
OP artist is KnifeDragon
>>
>>77220202

No breakfast + big lunch might be messing with your blood sugar stability. You can look up "second meal effect" basically your body handles lunch better if you eat a breakfast. I'd just try to get a bigger breakfast and see if that fixes it.

Reply to Thread #77215314


Supported: JPG, PNG, GIF, WebP, WebM, MP4, MP3 (max 4MB)