I just want to feel like i dont need substances to perform anymore. I want solid baseline energy.

Hey OP, tonight, go to bed no later then 11pm
Then wake up around 6am or so

Congratulations you've solved the energy problem

>>77216539
if dexedrine fucks up your sleep, adderall isn't going to improve it

I’m on it right now, OP.

Ever since I was a kid I was the cliche “talented but lazy” archetype. All throughout school, first grade to graduation, I’d get extremely high standardized test scores but would have missing homework in every class. Got diagnosed as an adult and they put me on adderall 15mg extended release. 25 years old now and have been on it (off and on) for a year.

For me it worked very well at first but then I got used to it. See me right now? I should be studying for the MCAT but I’m hyperfixating on this long 4chan post instead.

It doesn’t feel like the cheat code that it did before. Now I still have to will myself into starting difficult tasks, I can just do them for a little while longer on adderall. So, it can absolutely help, but keep your expectations managed long term and don’t fall in love with the initial honeymoon. Don’t try to ramp up your dose over and over, *******you still absolutely need to build good habits and lifestyle changes**********

As for sleep, you really have to strategize about taking it early (like 7:00-8:00 AM) or talking with your doctor about immediate release meds (they metabolize faster, you won’t be wired all day).

>>77216539
Legal meth. Good for a party and that's about it.

>>77216566
You're retarded

>>77216539
I've done
Amphetamine
Dexamphetamine
Lisdexamphetamine
2-fa
2-fma
4-fa
Methamphetamine
Mdma
Bkmdma

As far as amphetamines go, 4-fa was the best but they don't make it anymore

I'm on keto so I don't need it

>>77216539
Neat, I was going to barely-hinged stimpost in the weekend thread, but then I saw this very appropriate thread. Thanks OP. I've been awake for almost two days, mostly alternating between playing Dota, shitposting, and filling out a mountain of paperwork.
Sometimes when I abuse Adderall in this fashion I cry really easily. Not sad crying, and not as simple as tears of joy, but like an overwhelming rush of emotion in a good way. Like a woman or a basedboy I guess. A few hours ago I cried watching some Shrek 2 scenes (the opening and I Need a Hero) and Free from Kpop Demon Hunters while eating lunch. They don't have to be romantic, sometimes I cry watching nature documentaries or reading Wikipedia. It feels really nice desu. Is this normal? I mean, as previously stated, obviously I am abusing it and taking way more than I should, but whenever I look up reports of people getting emotional on Adderall, I see the occasional post similar to my experience, but it seems significantly more common for people to be either negatively overwhelmed with emotions or depressed (or both on peak and comedown). I feel great.

>>77216643
kek I strongly feel this post. I took Adderall for ~10 years without getting to a point I would consider myself addicted to it. Ironically I was technically abusing it because I would take it on the weekends instead of at work (the exact opposite of what I told my psychiatrist). But then I started school, actually started taking it every day (I've never been good at school), and my tolerance increased massively.
Anyway OP I'd recommend listening to this dude. He seems like me with an extra 30 IQ points.

>>77216652
It's crazy that methamphetamine is legally prescribable, yet you call this drug that isn't meth "legal meth".

>>77216539
Dexedrine is 100% dextroamphetamine. D-Amphetamine is less anxiety inducing than racemic (50/50 levoamphetamine/dextroamphetamine). Adderall is 50% racemic amphetamine and 50% dextroamphetamine basically, so it's 75% dextroamphetamine. It will just make you more jittery than an equivalent dose of dexedrine. Just ask your doctor to adjust your dose or change the release method. Vvyanse is d-amphetamine with lysine, an amino acid, attached so it is absorbed more slowly and more steadily than other extended release methods. It might be better for you.

I took it twice in college and it legitimately turned me into a genius. I basically learned an entire class worth of material in one night. And then when I was taking a test on it the class was “dynamics” and engineering/physics class and I felt like had this superhuman ability to visualize the problems and all the forces at play and stuff. It was 5 times more effective than I ever dreamed it would be.

But yeah long term I’ve heard a lot of people tell me it ruined their lives. Paradoxically people get fat after long term amphetimine addiction like Elvis

I've taken a lot of the rx amphetamines both via prescription and being a degen and they are all shit once you get older (>25y/o).
if you need it to function something has gone seriously wrong with your life, and if you're a child i would argue you are being abused by your parents and the medical system.
if your energy/attention levels are fucked up it's likely you don't get good enough sleep and either you need to quit all stims (caffeine and nic included) and face whatever short term consequences that brings, or do a sleep study and figure out the next step from there. possibly do both.

only place amphetamines have legitimate use for imo is a last ditch resort in thru-hikes or /out/ gone wrong, or a warzone. can save your life then.

>>77216703
How about mda? People say it's like the beat thing ever.

I am a first year law student who used to struggle with paying attention. I started buying dexedrine from a USC student and now im doing really well academically BUT sometimes I go a day without sleep and also have to STACK meals on days where im not studying because I cannot stomach food at all when im on it. I think about it like it's faustian but probably im destroying my body for no good reason. If you can avoid doing this stuff to begin with then I would do everything in your power to do so!