Not sure if it does anything at all. I notice b complex though.

>>77216627
helps or hurts? I’ve got b-complex and all I’ve noticed is bright yellow pee

its not even remotely psychoactive

>>77216632
Not what I asked though, doesn’t need to be “psychoactive” to work in removing a psychotic state and bringing someone back to normal. Anxiety is clearly some sort of a disregulation, and creatine regulates cell metabolism, so there’s a plausible way it could intervene at the root cause and prevent altered states in the first place. But then others say that increasing energy metabolism in the brain could *increase* anxiety and racing thoughts. Both are plausible, so I’m looking for anecdotes either way.

>>77216645
In theory it should help with anxiety ever so slightly. Just will because it helps with brain metabolism and erases symptoms of a lack of sleep one of which is anxiety.

However if you are attempting to fix your anxiety problem with creatine you will be dissapointed for sure. Basically nothing bought over the counter works except for kava kava which itself is highly liver toxic and at that point you might as well just have a beer

>>77216650
Most things marketed for anxiety though just mask the symptoms without touching the cause. I’m more interested in fixing the root problem than dulling myself out enough to ignore it.

>>77216625
A large portion of your body's methyl groups are spent making endogenous creatine. When you take creatine, you increase the amount of methyl groups available, and some people get anxiety when they experience "overmethylation".

>>77216625
creatine just makes me feel fuller and my muscles feeling more isolated through lifts.

>>77216673
It’s not really a disorder bro you evolved to be anxious to protect you from danger and shit. You can’t fix the root cause unless you plan to damage your amygdala somehow

>>77216650
>kava
Something understated about kava is how absolutely vile it tastes. It's like cough medicine, dead animals and sadness. It will make you want to vomit, you have to force yourself to drink it and you have to drink like a litre to get the proper effect.
It also gives you a hangover, despite the fact that you're absurdly well hydrated from drinking it.
I don't regret trying it, because I'm a type 2 fun enjoyer, but I wouldn't repeat the experience.

>>77216625
I've probably consumed over 5kg of creatine over the last 10 years. Doses ranging from 3g every other day to 15g daily. Having breaks or slamming it down religiously every day for months. Here's the tldr on most common creatine myths:
>creatine causes balding
Bullshit. It's mostly genetic factors, diet and stress etc. If you have shit genes and shitty lifestyle and blame hair loss on creatine... fix everything else and then searchh for a cause of your problems.
>creatine causes bloating
Creatine do make your muscles retain more water. You feel more full but it doesn't cause digestive discomfort or anything like that. Yeah, your waist circumference can increase because guess what? Your abdominal and back muscles will also be more loaded wih water.
>creatine makes you super strong or endurant
It can give you a small boost. One or two extra reps per set, a little bit faster recovery between sets, few extra pounds on a lift.
As for your question: I haven't seen any mood changes, no matter how much or how often I did take it or not. It does not affect your nervous system in any significant way for it to be noticable.

>>77216625
it can keep some people awake when taken too late in the day. maybe there's something there. or increased anxiety from that sleep loss.

>>77217511
Is it worth the cost?

>>77216645
Please explain what you think the word "psychoactive" means

>>77217501
Something you have to understand is that when people mention compounds, they're usually taking it as a supplement. Nobody is mainlining dry herbs or making a decoction.

>>77216625
No correlation nigga

>>77217746
It means mind altering, which creatine clearly isn’t. You could’ve just googled that.

>>77218109
But creatine does cross the blood-brain barrier and affect the central nervous system. Taking a high dose of creatine has been shown to be able to preserve executive functioning when sleep deprived.

>>77218109
So you admit that your previous statement was absolutely nonsensical.

>>77216625
maybe placebo but i think it helps me keep a clear head on long days, make of that what you will

>>77217705
yes creatine is worth taking at 5g a day for the rest of your life. Ever person even tangentially related to fitness should be taking it and the majority already do. There are only two caveats, the first is major and that is a portion of people have no effect from extra dosing creatine in which case stop taking it. The second is if you are allergic and have a negative reaction.

>>77216625
I'm a really bad responder to creatine aswell. Fucks up my sleep, my immune system, makes my lifts sometimes much better and sometimes much worse, makes my throat hurt etc. I don't know why my body has to be such a bitch about it but I've elected to just not take it anymore. Strangely didn't cause telogen effluvium lmao. It's not even a matter of form as I've tried like five different forms and all of them caused issues. I guess creatine and me will never be friends.

>>77217705
this >>77218462 creatine is the most studied supplement in the world, and it's safe for most people except those with certain kidney issues

>>77218514
There are hyper responders like me who respond pretty badly to even small doses of it. Maybe it's related to hypermethylation.

>>77218323
No, numbnuts, creatine is not psychoactive. If something can prevent an altered state of consciousness from happening, it’s not psychoactive, it’s the opposite. Now are you done being dumb?

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>>77216625
>creatine is giving me anxiety
You might as well just say water gives you anxiety

>>77218526
>Maybe it's related to hypermethylation.
i think it has more to do with your pussy always being out. cover that thing up and you should be good

>>77218645
>reading comprehension
God I wish there was a /health/ board, IQs would be above room temp

>>77218638
>doesn’t need to be “psychoactive” to work in removing a psychotic state and bringing someone back to normal.
>psychoactive means mind altering
>it doesn't need to be psychoactive to remove a psychological state
Yeah, nothing you've said makes any coherent sense, and you're getting upset that people have pointed it out.

>>77216632
it is indirectly.
your body makes creatine via SAMe and methyl groups, so by taking exogonous, you free up methylation activity for acetylcholine synthesis which is a neurotransmitter. Infact, nearly 50% of your bodies methylation activity is JUST for making creatine