https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf49kj8jChs
Reposting to see if anyone can recognize the thing

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full travel linears
>MX2A Blacks (Absolute best for those who want to come full circle and achieve nirvana)
>Gat KS-3 (Milky Pros are GOATed with mods)
>HMX Snow Crash (decent but doesn't have the Cherry scratch)
>Gat Oil Kings (buy if nothing else is available)
long pole linears
>SWK Ghost Dragons (recommended for max clack builds regardless of how basic or endgame your keeb is)
>BSUN Raw (better than other RAWs from Geon)
>Kailh BCP (better than Sarokeys or custom frankenstein mods w/ Alpaca housings and Cherry tops)
>HMX Hyacinth V2U (better than non-U V2)
>Gat Smoothie/Sea Salt (GOATed POM switches)
>HMX Xinhai (best clacker from HMX)
>HMX Macchiato
>Keygeek Y2/Oat
>HMX Bad Sweetheart (sounds real deep)
tactiles
>MX2A Brown/Clear (former can be stem swapped with Boba tactiles for a real upgrade)
>Lichicx (anything)
>Haimu (anything)
>Gateron Quinn/Lanes/Green Apple/Type R
>HMX Frog/Snowfall/Firecracker/Yamatake
clickies
>Gat Melodics (GOATed clickies rn)
>Zeal 3-in-1 Clickiez (pricey as shit and less easy to buy)
>Kailh Box White V2 for lighter feel (less tactile than Melodics)
>Kailh Box Jade/Navy for heavier feel
>MX2A Blues (only for oldfags)

>>108195949
100% some hyper niche 20 unit GB or a full custom design
don't bother looking for it, show that vid to some designer and get yours 3D printed and installed with those light bars and knobs and whatever the fuck else it has
it's not even 40% FFS it's got to be some underground Chinee product or a full custom

Didn't notice the other thread was already dying.
>https://keebworks.com/keebscore/
>>Linear
>Akko x MonsGeek Green Fog
>SP-Star Polaris Grey
>Gateron Oil King
>>Tactile
>KiiBOOM Taro Cream Milk
>Akko Cilantro
>Feker Panda <- main option?
I know these kind of reviews are very subjective, but is this a decent enough resource on what to try next?
I'm trying to find other places with lists like that.

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>>108196028
check my reply to your post there and give it to me
you won't be disappointed
we here at Geon ensure every customer is FULLY satisfied

>>108195933

frog tkl leggera any good?

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There will be no production.

>>108196488
if using the Venom HE PCB, yes.

>>108194515
>>108194661
My KKB WoB doesn't say Lock on the num lock at all, it just says Num. And none of the keycaps have problematic kerning. So I wouldn't say that this is indicative of the quality of all Keykobo sets.

There are other problems, like no sublegends on the numpad keys, and ÷ ×

Just bought some Cherry MX2A speed silver switches to replace my Keychron K Pro red switches. The cherry ones are noticeably heavier despite being rated at the same operating force. And more importantly, the cherry ones are just way scratchier. I swear to christ somehow the cheap chinkshit is always better in current year. Am I missing something? Will the cherry switches break in or something, or is cherry just garbage?

>>108198571
people unironically think the scratchiness feels good

>>108198571
Keychron's numbers are straight-up fake. I don't know where they came up with 45gf operating force but it's obvious on e.g. the Theremingoat force curve chart that at 2mm travel it's not even above 40gf. The switch bottoms out at 50gf, whereas pretty much all the main Cherry switches are 60gf bottom-out.

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And another thing, did cherry quietly stop using barrel springs? One google result is a review praising the barrel springs, and the next is Cherry's website itself which explicitly shows no barrel spring.
>>108198696
Ok, well that solves that I guess, it at least tracks that a chinese product would not have properly measured numbers.

>>108198769
Isn't the barrel spring a newer thing with the MX2A switches? "The original" MX Black had coil springs, which were the standard for decades.

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>>108198973
It's something they purportedly introduced with the MX2A. I see countless reviews from 2023 mentioning them, but the barrel shape is (was?) apparently incredibly slight. Picrelated from this review: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/hands-on-with-cherry-mx2a-switches-a-lot-less-wobble-a-little-more-confusion/ . But now you go to Cherry's website and it's not mentioned at all, and the exploded diagram doesn't seem to show any barrel shape. I just opened up one of the switches I just bought and I can't really tell, but I can't really tell in picrelated either.

Never mind, I'm a retard, the website does say it's a barrel spring if you scroll down, it just doesn't say it on the spring portion of the exploded diagram. I guess I will just use them for a while and hope the scratchiness fades because I want a shorter actuation distance.

>>108196031
>>108196058
My bad, did not see your post before and had to leave after my last post.
I honestly don't have a "preference" yet, since I'm still a beginner, and I'm having my first experience with a plastic body, gasket mount, Kailh Box Red keyboard (assuming the first two characteristics matter).
I'm really enjoying it so far, the sound, the smoothness of the clicks, these Reds really have no "feedback" at all but the experience is still positive so far, so at the very least I can safely say I enjoy Linears.
So I'm wondering whether I go for a "higher end" Linear later, or give Tactile a try next.

>Reddit is still hyping the rainy as the best keyboard

They are helpless

>>108199140
https://www.cherry.de/en-gb/product/mx2a-black#description
>Noise-reducing barrel spring design

>>108199885
(Didn't see the "nevermind" post.)

creamy poppy thocks in my keebussy

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I need a hotswap 5pin keeb, 60-75%, and I need it to have 1kHz polling rate. Scanning rate should of course be as high as possible. Sound, light, color etc. don't matter. Proper qmk/via implementation is a plus, price up to 100$.

Was going to get a Cidoo qk75, but apparently via isn't implemented properly, and the polling rate seems to be only 125Hz from what I can find online. If this is wrong info and someone could give me a source proving it has 1kHz polling & high scanning rate, I would get that one and be happy.

>pic related, me tweaking out after failing to find technical specs on chinkboards other than "fish switch", "extra hold big hole", or "tight metal shrapnel"

>>108198571
Cherry switches are for copers who need to live with their $400 keyboard purchase decisions.

>>108199190
>and hope the scratchiness fades
Cherries never stop feeling scratchy.

>>108199190
The scratchiness fades but it takes years

>>108201256
Nah, they do. They never really stop sounding scratchy, though, unless you lube them. I unironically like the sound.

>>108201192
uh, any marked down keychron q series board?

https://www.keychron.com/collections/q-pro-q-series-keyboards/products/keychron-q1

that's probably the best you're gonna get for sub $100. 1k polling is pretty standard everywhere though, it'd be harder to find sub 1k at this point unless you're looking real chinky

>>108201310
huh, thought they were all sold out... thanks, will check which ones are available. But as for polling rate, seems like the Chidoo has 125Hz, at least according to some Osu plebbitors. So yeah, gonna be careful about that.

what's the best kind of oil to get on my hands and all over my keycaps to give them a slight oily sheen? not a gross oil, like a natural nice oil, something to coat everything evenly like seasoning an iron pan, make the black keycaps look lovely dark and deep, glistening shining shimmering, just the thinnest coat, so your fingers aren't touching dry plastic, you know what I mean

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>>108201645
Clarins lip oil
comes with an applicator brush for you to use on your caps

>>108201816
I've been greasing up my legs with lanolin to keep them moist through the winter, I just massage my legs then let my fingers work that woolly oil into my black PBT keycaps and make them shimmer and shine. Occasionally hit em with the shoe-shine brush to even everything out.

>>108201840
That'll do, too.

Just noticed a problem I'd never noticed before. On this keyboard, the upside-down switch on Caps Lock doesn't clack normally at the bottom-out. Is this a thing with north-facing switches in general or is this specific to this board's PCB design somehow? I tried changing out the switch to be sure it wasn't the switch's fault. Every key that isn't oriented normally has a problematic bottom-out: that includes the sideways ones like pipe and numpad + & enter

(This is with MX Browns)

>>108201965
I tried turning the keycap upside down and that fixes it... what the fuck is happening here

>>108201991
Oh man I'm dumb. It's keycap interference. The thing everyone has talked about forever.

>>108201965
That's perfectly normal. Normal caps with upside down switches never sound as good as stepped caps do in such keyboards.

Oh man these Leopold caps do not play nice with north-facing switches at all. Tried 3.8mm travel switches and still not short enough to stop the keycap hitting the housing. I'm gonna need to look for some 3.6mm or shorter, I think I might have some but not sure

What's the closest thing to a Cherry Brown that has 3.4mm travel or shorter? All the switches I have are either long pole or awful in some other way. I just want something with a light mid-press bump and a rail bottom-out on a Nylon bottom housing. I can be flexible on the housing material if that's the only way to get something that isn't long pole. I'll even take a linear switch if I have to.

Kinda disappointed in my keychron v6 max. The spot above the arrow keys feels like if you press too hard your finger would just break through. The lighting or the keycaps don't allow enough light to come through so some keys I can't tell what they are. If I ever fully clean my widow maker or whatever my razer kb was I'll probably go back to it.

>>108202126
stack O rings to reduce the travel lol

I wonder if it would be possible to just sand down that one corner of the Cherry Brown to allow keycap clearance

Because all my short-travel switches sound like shit. Gateron Beer: shit. Gateron Mini i: shit. Gateron Quinn: shit. WS Morandi: shit.

>>108202325
Nooo that's too ghetto

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>>108201645
Start polishing.

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Finally, should get my WoB GMK knock-offs on Monday. Maybe one day I'll be able to splurge out for the real deal with the retro extension on a fancy new board and whatnot, maybe go for a beige board, but for now having keycaps that are at the very least made out of proper plastic that can be seen with just the light of the monitor will be good enough.

Ok yeah it's possible to just sand down the corner on the mx browns and get it to work with keycaps. Doesn't take much. Problem solved.

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whats the smallest mechanical switch available? say, 6mm x 6mm x 4mm? i have a thing i kinda wanna do thatd be really fucking stupid but cool as hell.

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>536zł for a full GMK keycap set
>more than for a full prebuilt board
>not including the R4 keycaps for 108-key boards
>since everyone forgot how to manufacture 104-key boards apparently
lmfao yep I'm def gonna be putting away building a keyboard for a while

>>108202551
Depends on what exactly you mean by 'mechanical'. The buttons on my MCU are 3mm x 1.9mm x 0.5mm.

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ngl the GMK beiges look kinda sex, add the retro kit for these and a nice no-frills beige 104 and it would be hella sex

>>108202579
obviously there are tact buttons and the like, but ive found that anything with a dome spring fails pretty fast (<100k cycles) and spectacularly, be it the plastic breaking or the spring wiggling its way out of the assembly. ideally im looking for something where the contacts do not themselves comprise critical parts affecting travel.

>>108202595
Not sure then. Cherry has those scissor switches that are mechanical, but those are just really thin rather than being small in the x & y direction.

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Seriously, there are not enough words in the English dictionary to describe my hatred for Keychron.
>has decent 104-key boards
>even has a fantastic looking retro styled beige one
>with non-retarded keycaps
>with a Model M style status LED zone
>but
>DURRR
>HURRRRR WIN MAC MULTI LINK
>DURRRRR
>U NEED 2 KNO IF U USE WIN OR MAC
>HURRRR NO 1 NEEDS 2 SEE NUM LOCK STAT00S
>ON A 104-KEY BOARD
>HURRRRRR
I sincerely hope these niggers go under for constantly pulling this shit good lord do I hate these chinkshit fucktards

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>>108202618
My Keychron V6 Max. U mad?

>>108202601
it seems like the xy packing dimensions are 14mm x 12.5mm center to center. i havent bothered cading the case but assuming id be making my own boards and can print risers if i need to, lets roughly say the height limit would be ~15-20mm.

im kinda tempted to break out my resin printer and try to make my own slps-style switches for this.

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>>108202638
>>108202601
oops, forgot this

>>108202630
>couldn't get proper R4 keycaps for the macro keys
Thanks for proving my point. lmk when there are proper keycaps for those extra 4 keys in general availability so that you don't have to do some weird compromises like this.

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>>108202663
I could easily go buy some r4 relegendables if I wanted to, I use those because I prefer it. I think 108 layout looks retarded. Shallow uniform blank keys that match the case looks more like 104, I don't think that's a weird compromise, I think that's a good compromise. It also reflects their function as non-standard keys.

>>108202703
(the weird compromise is the shift key on the bottom row, since this set didn't come with a menu key)

>>108202703
Yeah, I guess. I also don't like the knob on the V6 Max since it offsets the function keys and I'd have no use for it anyways, got an external DAC with independent volume control so I don't need a volume knob or anything like that. Otherwise a V6 with that WoB GMK set with the retro extension would be a great compromise for me. Guess there are other 108-key boards with the same functionality to choose from.

>>108202719
I mean you could just get a Cherry G80 if none of this stuff appeals
https://ymdkey.com/products/cherry-g80-3000-3494-black-white-plastic-case-mechanical-keyboard-black-green-silent-red-switch-retro-typing-mechanical-keyboard?variant=41868937297981

>>108202732
And that won't work for me since I'm looking for something with the modern QMK/VIA hot-swap 1000Hz NKRO package. That's my dilemma. I'm looking for something classic looking, but with modern functionalities that exist in a market full of retarded quirks with practically no one willing to stick to the classics. GMK offers the right keycaps, but then no one offers the right base board.

>>108202592
beige always wins

>>108202743
Yeah, beige would go super well with my carpet desk mat, evne though the mouse and monitors would be in black. The Vortex Multix is almost perfect, just not too fond of the stylization around the arrow keys. Ideally they'd offer a full-size Model M DIY base for the ideal fusion of retro look and modern functionality, but alas, they too have a massive problem offering you all the keys for some reason.

>>108202740
DIY. Sure it might cost more to make your own but you get exactly what you want.

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>>108195933
/g/ Do you know my dog can type?

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Well?
Second opinions are welcome too.

fuck linears and fuck MX Blacks

>>108202618
people like you were born to be triggered
learn to go with the flow and accept small imperfections
>>108202630
solid board, anon
>>108202743
go Dolch or go home
beige is blasé

>>108202703
solid and reasonable take anon
blanks on 108s look sexy

>>108204197
Feker Pandas are kind of shit, look at MMD Princesses (v1 or V2 ONLY, V3 and V4 are bad) for a cheap tactile

>>108202824
Yep, it would cost 3x what I'd be willing to pay but at least I'd be content with the purchase. To an extent. I still dislike the 108-key trend that's the most limiting factor due to those four keycaps you can never get just right, and any 104-key base will have something off about it, mainly Keychron catering to Applefags for no reason whenmost MKB retards either use Linux or Windows anyways.

GMK actually has keycaps that aren't retarded with the divide/multiply on the numpad (mea culpa) and has those retro extensions that are exactly what I'd need, but it is GMK so that's one prebuilt board worth of keycaps. Then a 108-key RGB QMK/VIA base would be one prebuilt board worth, then a set of good tactile switches would be another.

Defo gonna suffer with my janky K70 for a while still, fucking hate how there is no work around here.

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>Loobed
>Manu
>Baion
I feel dirty just thinking about holding these
3 of the dirtiest vendors/designers in the business thocking on me hnnngggngg

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Glove80. Only reason I'm hesitating is the lack of a pointing device. Thoughts? Is there a superior split ergo keeb WITH a pointing device?

>>108195933
do you have recommendations for brands what won't add tacky logos all over their keyboards?

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Oh I am not going to hold onto much cash once I get a job...

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Any of you /g/entoomen run a 75%/80% with a seperate numpad/macropad combo that actually matches as a set?

>>108205559
most of them lol?
show me one logo on anything from Geonworks

>>108205609
for what fuckin purpose would anyone do this? just buy a 108 key.

>>108205593
fucking sexy, get that bitch

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Thoughts on the Smurve80?

>>108205631
I just might, but not right now. A top premium Model M repro to last me a lifetime? Fuck yeah I want to have one of those in my life. It's not a matter of "if" but "when".

>>108205628
this is a tkl website
60% trannies belongs to discord
100% fags belongs to reddit

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>>108205864
Trannies use 100%
I've seen it in their videos.

>>108205628
I put my numpad on the right for accounting, coding.
I put my numpad on the left for drawing and quick macros.
I dunno, just a really comfortable setup for me.

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Just some rambling comparing my GMK and CRP sets:

CRP is noticeably brighter on the whole, closer to a brilliant white. GMK is more warm, a bit closer to what I would consider a true beige.

The legends are obviously sharper on GMK, since they're double shot, but it's honestly not a huge deal. CRP does visually come across as having a heavier weight, though.

The texture on CRP is much nicer - your fingers just glide over the keys. Though I suppose since GMK is ABS it will quickly lose its texture anyways.

With any sub-legend sets that don't match the base letter color, GMK will always use UV protected pad printing, since they do not have the ability to triple shot (and likely never will). This is a huge durability concern given that I've seen GMK UV print only last a year of common use. Obviously CRP is dyesub so it doesn't need to worry about that. Another thing about the GMK pad printing is that it's kind of annoying on the fingers; they feel like stickers on the key.

GMK has recessed keys. This is most noticeable in R4, and I very much prefer this. I wonder why CRP doesn't do recessed keys? It isn't a huge height increase, but it is something I wish they had.

You do not get a nice green Sys Rq on the Print Screen key with GMK, unless you do a special order of their retro kit. Bit of a shame, as a green Sys Rq key is right at home with beige.

The spacebar on CRP is considerably better. It has an even sound on both sides. I think it's just much more 'straight' than the GMK spacebar, since I tested this out on three different GMK spacebars and they all sounded different (uneven sound depending on which side I pressed it).

CRP also gives you more options for the homing keys. You get scoops, bars, and nipples. GMK you only get scoops or bars. As we all know, nipples are superior.

>>108204720
>Current: 45gf linear
>get Green Fog (60gf) to try a heavier linear
>get MMD Princess V2 (48gf) to try a tactile for the first time
It's a plan? Or should I only pick one?

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ALL CAPS
YO HOMIE
I GOT SOME CAPS FOR YOU

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>that'll be €555

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check out my new 9009-I mean MODERN DOLCH LIGHT
fucking designers ripping off each other
>SUPPORT THE DESIGNERS
ALI CAPS AAAARGH

>$180 keycaps
This is robbery. I can’t. I don’t want to go as low as chink clones but GMK is just too much.

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NO
DON'T BUY CLONES
SUPPORT MY 9009 CLONE INSTEAD

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ARE YOU THAT CHEAPLY BOUGHT AND SOLD?
WHERE'S YOUR FUCKING HONOR? YOU CHEAP SLUT

>>108195933
zeal switch clickies
box navy for space bar
large empty vacant ABS cases
>ignore hipyo/switch click fags
>hide hipyo posts

>>108205991
There was a gb for nipple homing for gmk recently: https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-cyl-vintage-keys?variant=43176947777647

Dunno why designers don't include those by default or at least in child kits. I think mono dolch is the first set I've seen to have nips

>>108206667
tldr me on hipyo and switch click fags

>>108206840
based Monochrome Dolch enjoyer
suck on it clonefags

>>108206868
its just a joke
theyre obssesed with quiet and reddit "thocc" keyboards, they call the HHKB and topre "overrated" because its not quiet enough

>>108206903
count me among those brave few who clickmaxx their boards and do it loud and proud
shill me a roomy ABS board
something big enough to fit an Airbus Beluga

>>108206868
It's the first shit you see when you look up keyboard recommendations on YouTube, and it very much seems like astroturfed shilling for chinkshit. If you fall for those videos and think those boards sound good you're just not fully sentient.

>>108206985
youll have to just find one through a video review with a sound sample, stuff that looks "roomy" sometimes in actuality is not that acoustic and actually as quiet as an aluminum keyboard IE Iqunix OG80 is not that loud despite its spacious plastic case

>>108207004
like a handful of their recs are good
but they dont have the clickbait titles
they exclusively like quiet keyboards, and fucking (((gasket))) mounted stuff, so the recs around that are probably good, maybe IDK, If I cared about noise Id just find a low friction switch and hand lube everything, which is generally what they suggest in vids anyhow

>>108207009
guess I'll just get one of those modern IBMs like the one anon above

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>>108206550
https://swagkeys.com/products/swg-beige
This is just about as good as GMK if you like beige

>>108206550
everything's made in china, my negro

>>108207362
Made in China =/= chink, we've been over this before

>>108206550
>This is robbery.
This is what happens when you want to produce and sell things domestically. In case of GMK it's Germany, but it would be equally expensive if something was to be made 100% in the US.

Keep that in mind now that both the US and the EU are making a big whoop about bringing the manufacturing back home. We all got too used to Shenzhen flooding our markets with cheap shit, and this is the price of domestic manufacturing. Now, whether you want to play the lottery of chinkshit keycaps or you want to pay out of the ass for a bunch of plastic bits and bobs made with German pedantry, that's up to you, it's a free market after all.

>>108207072
The Model F104 has an optional solenoid variant so that a huge fucking solenoid makes a fuck you noise every time you hit a key in case you hate your ears lol
https://youtu.be/yzcEtwSFz9I?t=1096

>>108207664
There is middle ground between borderline slave labor in china and charging $200 for “the best” keycaps. The margins even with first world wages still gotta be there if the price is lower.

Is there a way to get rid of the fucking tinny metallic echo after I type a key on one of these shitty keyboards or do I have to go back to my trusty $10 one that doesn't fucking suck ass in every way
>nooo try a different one
I've tried multiple of them throughout the years and every time I use them until they "develop" this fucking ring? I don't even get it or understand it, maybe I just realize it after a while
>noo you didn't buy one of the recommendations from the top post that's $200 by a no name brand from china
yea I bought one in the store like a normal bloke

>>108207894
The ring is often caused by the switch springs. When you strike a key all the springs in switches around vibrate a little and create a metallic ring that can be mistaken for case ping.

Is the ring strongest when you e.g. release the Y key?

>>108207908
>Is the ring strongest when you e.g. release the Y key?
yea exactly

>>108207894
what are your switches
also are you referring to case reverb or spring ping

>>108207916
You're gonna have to redo the spring lubing or find other switches that aren't prone to developing spring ping

>>108201645
coconut oil

>>108207927
(t. had this problem severely on a keyboard and solved it by doing nothing but swapping the springs)

By the way the easiest way to tell if a switch has spring ping, a method I developed myself, is to tap the switch stem against your front tooth. If there's any ping at all it travels right through your skull to your ears clear as day, it looks and feels retarded though. Try it with a Cherry switch you'll see what I mean

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>>108206139
I'm on an analysis paralysis right now, bros.

>>108206139
>>108208009
Green Fog seems good
MMD Princess v2 is a definite try, they're on par with Boba U4T as a tactile Holy Panda style switch in my opinion

>>108205642
Annoying that it's not a full-size and doesn't have an option for one when that would be more accurate, but that's just the custom scene's TKL obsession at work. It's an interesting project and I bet a lot of them are going to be put upon by Cherry profile keycaps basically turning into SA or MT3 from the curvature of the plate and PCB.

>>108207956
I'll try it lol, thanks for the help

>>108207956
>>108208072
Actually I should update this... I just found a Cherry brown that passed the tooth test but had a barely-discernible ping on the snap release test (where you slide your finger off the edge of the stem while pressing it to cause an extra-sharp release)

I will still use both tests in combination to get the fullest picture I can

>>108207956
>the easiest way
Ok I was lying the snap release test is easier most of the time

I'm just partial to this shit method because I came up with it myself

how do i solve wanting to change switches depending on my mood? do i get multiple keyboards? but then they would have to be the same to keep muscle memory and avoid constant adaptation

>>108208422
That seems to be the solution for me. Hell I have three boards that are basically the same save for the flavor of switch & keycaps.

>>108208422
I don't think it's that hard to get used to the changes as long as you don't mess with fundamental stuff. Don't swap between regular backspace and HHKB backspace, don't swap the location of ctrl, etc.

The thing I have always fucked up is that I never get enough PCBs. You need to have one board that's for experimenting, but if you only get one PCB for it eventually you'll get stuck on a build you really like and don't want to change. You need to get two PCBs for the experimenting board. And maybe an extra of the plate you're most likely to use, too.

>>108208422
get extra pcbs and swap them in and out

>>108208034
Thanks. Honestly MMD Princess v2 makes the most sense anyway, so I can try tactiles for the first time. And a full set is like 1/2 the price of the Green Fogs, incredibly affordable.
(Also holy fuck, those Boba U4T are obscenely expensive.)
>>108204720
>V3 and V4 are bad
By the way, is it because they are actually less tactile and much louder? I tried looking it up myself, but I got curious. Still ordering the v2.

>>108208664
V3s and V4s are worse because their tactility is inferior, seemingly because of coming pre-lubed. When I peeled apart a large number of V4s and removed the lube job to the best of my ability to try and run the switches dry, they were better but still not at the level of V1 and V2 MMD Princesses.

>>108208690
Understandable, not going to bother looking into these any further then.
Just about to confirm the order for V2s, thanks for the suggestion.

I'm new to this

Does anybody know of

>cheap (like 30$ or less)
>shine through keycaps meant for South facing RGB lights (So the see through letters/numbers are just aligned to the bottom rather then the top of the key)
>On a platform like Amazon that accepts returns

Or even if not the third one, is at least the first two?

>>108208966
Also to be clear, I can find some that place the lettering on the side of the keycap, but I still want it on the top face, just on the bottom edge rather then the top edge

>>108208966
>shine through
nobody makes good shine through legends. your best bet is amazon or ali

>>108208966
The mental labour of trying to help you with this is worth more to me than the pittance you're willing to spend on the actual keyboard

>>108207695
>solenoid
just get a fucking typewriter at that point
the old IBM selectrics kinda sound like an IBM 1401 punch card machine from the ghost in the shell intro

How do you all find wrist rests/pads of different lengths for different keyboards?

Do you all just put up with drastic mismatches in size?

>>108209398
Most simply don't use wrist rests

>>108209398
Like the other anon said, just don't use a wrist rest. Your wrists should be floating and level while you're typing.

>>108207894
lol normal blokes buy tray/top mount pieces of shit like Gayzer and get BTFO by their switch bottoming out on harsh metal
fucking normie, join a GB next time and pony up $600 for everything.

>>108209398
There's TKL rests, there's full-size rests, there's 60% and smaller rests, just Google it it's all right there.
>>108209411
>>108209452
>how to know if someone's not getting their G on
the Glare TKL is unusable without one
real Geon enthusiasts always use a wrist rest
Geon sells them direct ffs

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get a fucking F1
get some fucking GMKs
get MX Blacks (dry)
fucking scrubs

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>you sure showed 'em, son, I'm so proud of you!
>now put that fancy custom away and hand me my old chiclet, you faggot fuck

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Chilkey ND104 looks good

i hate cherry switches and i hate geon

>>108210002
grrrrr
>>108209832
based

I'm holding an MX Blaeck to my ass and actuating it 10,000 times
it feels just like the real thing IYKYK based Geon

tic thock tic thock
shut the fuck up can these fags stop bringing their loud keyboard to work

need something budget and programmable for the office. should i go with a lemokey p1 browns

>>108210281
hipyo detected
>>108210430
worth a shot

How do I get used to typing on mushy garbage linears? How does everyone do it? I refuse to believe someone can go from a clicky tactile to a linear and then back again. It's too much, you have to stick to one or the other or you'll never be satisfied with both. This is the real reason no one uses clicky tactiles, once you cross the line your collection ends up in the dustbin.

>>108211258
og hmx switches
carbon fiber plate
nothing mushy about it

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I have had this tofu 65 since 2021

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any alternative switch recommendations for baby kangaroo enjoyers?

>>108211258
you get a heavy linear so it's basically a medium tactile without the bump
in fact you literally should not need more than a good heavy linear and a good medium tactile

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>wooden wrirstrest
>with a fops
>not in stock on ali
fok

>>108211460
based, fuck Cherry faggots
long pole clackers on CF = the real linear experience

>>108209832
Are those metal caps?

>>108210430
Ended up grabbing a womier k75 did I make the right choice lads

I need you trannies to help a chud out.
I've been a ducky buyer for over a decade now and I'm just kind of sick of them.
My ducky one 3 is always double inputting after I put some bs chink amazon coral pink switches in them.
I don't actually like doing all the work anymore, lubing shit, taking shit apart etc.
What's a good TKL keyboard with a hotswap board that sub $250.
It's gotta be reliable most of all.
I like tactile and slightly heavier key presses and I really don't know what's what with all these useless switch names.

>>108212407
>My ducky one 3 is always double inputting after I put some bs chink amazon coral pink switches in them.
Sketchy board and Cherry switches: OK
Expensive board and sketchy switches: OK
Sketchy board and sketchy switches: problem

>>108212407
you missed the +84 GB but maybe there's some extras floating around
get in on that or get a Classic TKL, can't go wrong there either
pair it with Type Rs, they're pure tactiles and they go heavy

I just spent $500 on the Glove80 :|

>>108211622
*as long as it's not some Cherry PoS that doesn't bottom out on the poles
>non pole bottom out + heavy spring = mush central
simple as

what are some good keyboards that have mx clear/equivalents as out of box option?

>>108212518
based GB enjoyer

>>108212524
Who fucking cares? Get any keyboard and pair it with MX Clears. It's the easiest thing in the world today, no need to constrain yourself with prebuilts.

>>108212506
That's the spice. That dude looks nice, vintage beige with some ching chong keys would be up my ally. Too bad it's nearly all sold out.
>>108212420
It might just be the board in it because I was having some issues with the silvers that it came with, wasn't the biggest fan of them because I have heavy blue collar snow ape hands

Should I blow $300 on a used Rama Thermal in perfect condition, with 3 different coloured plates and a HS PCB?

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>>108212758
>That's the spice
oh yes, it is.

>>108212028
Generic gray/black keycaps, seemingly they don't exist outside of the keyboard's promotional render

>>108212781
Do I just cope until they notify me? What would be my realistic wait time? A year? I'm low time preference so that's fine with me.

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Recommend me the thickest cherry profile pbt keycaps I can buy for a reasonable price on aliexpress please. I'd like to order a white on black and black on white set to swap between depending on my mood. Shine through is optional.

My baseplate is brushed black aluminium and I'm using silent frozen switches, so I got a theme going on.

>>108212954
The GB is over. You're not getting any unless your vendor drops in-stock extra sales, and that won't happen until the GB ends and everyone who paid first gets theirs.
It's a real slim chance. Best look elsewhere, like the Neo80 Cu.

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>>108212957
There's always Shenpo. They have WoB and BoW and Gray like pic rel. Look them up on Ali.

>>108212980
*until the GB fulfilment period ends, it's estimated for Q2 this year.

>>108212989
Didn't know they offered bow/wob, I bought my beige set in that picture from YMDK. Will check.

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I preordered 3 +84s, just to be safe. One for dry Blacks, one for dry Browns, and one for some modded Nixies I got off Unikeys. I have a feeling I'll really enjoy these Cherries on a proper top mount board.

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Thoughts?

>>108213120
They're fine.

any nice preassembled split kbs i can buy for a reasonable price? aliexpress etc

>>108213120
They'd sell a lot more of these if they bothered to make proper WoB keycaps to match the case.

>>108213120
They're good. I have and use one.

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>>108213291
Problem is is that they'd have to be pad printed. M13 caps on a Mini M look sick but the caps have an expiration date so I can't bring myself to use it lol

>>108213654
I wonder if a clear coat would be enough to protect the legends?

>>108213654
I'm not going to pretend to know whether it's possible to develop double-shot moulds for Model M keycaps, but why wouldn't it possible to do reverse dye sub?

>>108213768
reverse dyesub is just exceptionally problematic, no matter who makes it

dyesub is already a little difficult to get right in terms of font sharpness, at least every single reverse dyesub set i've seen has had really shitty legends

>>108213291
Aren't they MX stem compatible with literally any keycap set?

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>>108213848
It's a Model M, so no. Part of the switch functionality is baked into the keycap, since the spring sits on a divit in the cap that gives it tension, and when you press down the tension snaps, creating the clicky noise and the tactility.

>>108213833
>reverse dyesub is just exceptionally problematic
I think some manufacturers are getting better at it. PBS Aperture Priority looked pretty good from what I saw.

We're talking about the best of bad options here. Would never claim reverse dye sub is ideal.

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i found a logitech g512 se att a thrift storee. "gx" keyswitches apparently.

the keys double--press all the tfucking time. sometimes they don't press at all. can barely type my passwords because the keys are fucked.d you can easily identify me all over 4chan due to tthese typos. thank you

>Glare TKL R2 in Q1 2026
HELLOO FUCKER HURRY UP I GOTTA GET MY GEIYOON ON

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i just bought a used cherry blue keyboard on ebay i hope it includes cum

>>108213257
define "nice" and "reasonable"

>>108214125
i have owned this previously and my only complaint is that there are no bumps on the F and J keycaps

Lanolin-pilled af, got my PBT glistenin

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>>108213848
You're thinking of New Model F's beamspring keyboard, which does have MX stems
Model Ms and New Model F's buckling spring keyboards have the same buckling spring mount and are reverse-compatible with original IBM keycaps

>>108213988
Sorry you boughted Logitech anon they're known for double-inputs or missed inputs across both keyboards and mice

my crush80 doubles up C keypresses sometimes after just a few months of use

>>108214482
Switch to Genuine Cherry MX switches and I bet this goes away

>>108214125
Why do you want cum on your keyboard?

>>108202618
I'm using one right now. The Num key backlight turns on(white) if it is active. It WOULD look a lot better if it were in the LED zone instead of the win/mac shit though.

>>108214684
Yeah like I said, my issue is having those indicator LED's and the window keycaps are a good compromise, but ideally there'd be a non-shit 104-key base available. Either way I'd have to pay out of the ass for the GMK keycaps anyways since there is no other way to get the look that I want cheaply and consistently, so w/e, gotta leave making my dream board for the future. That or just go full retard and get the F104.

saw my hotswap socket physically break as I inserted the switch but it seems to still work so not sure whether to freak out

>>108214845
If it still makes proper electrical connection and the switch doesn't jiggle about in there then If It Works, It Works

>>108213023
their wob are gonna be reverse dye sub so quality may not be as good (warping etc)

>>108214320
i thought it was because there was cum in the keyswitches but you're telling me the GX switches do this when its brand new i think that's interesting

>>108214499
thats how you know you got a good deal that's all

>>108211807
im a cherry faggot too thoughbeit

>>108215370
Logitech a shit

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Hopefully this doesn't look too fucked up after trying to do some lens/perspective correction in Photoshop.

MK Leopold WoB caps, finally put the PC plate in so the switches aren't wobbling all over the place. They're greased up a bit with lanolin, which is what's giving them that nice deep black appearance. I was only half-joking about all that

Sanded a few switches so there's no interference, they sound great, they look pretty OK too. I said elsewhere what I think of the inconsistency of the mod legends, but all considered I think these are pretty good.

>>108215491
Leopold looks kind of how I'd figure they are just from their abilities as a brand
That is, "they're fine, but overpriced compared to the rest of the space"

>>108215413
>>108215385
it can't be this difficult to make a fucking keyswitch. why are only the cherry switches (and above) actually functional as electrical buttons

>>108215497
Overpriced compared to what? They're more or less the same price as Swagkeys WoB unless you happen to live in Korea, and they're true PBT not ABS "mix", with comparable kitting. I'd say that's pretty competitive on price

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I bought this keyboard this weekend since my old one was failing me. It feels good to type on and I like it. I just wanted to share that.

>>108215509
there are dozens of switches available from a half dozen top brands right now
Cherry doesn't have a monopoly on switch longevity

>>108215536
absolutely based

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hell yeah Cherry got quad damage'd

>>108215536
looks like something LGR would use on his wood grain

>>108215536
One of those Royal Kludge boards?

>>108215676
It's an AULA S75 PRO

>>108215491
is that a flip 6p?

>>108216342
Yeah

>>108215491
>They're greased up a bit with lanolin
Please tell me this is bait. Making your keycaps oily on purpose is fucking retarded

>>108217214
he oils his legs up before putting thigh highs on and then some of it gets on the keyboard
it's no big deal, he's just lubricating his keycaps

>>108217252
No silly, you oil up after you take your pants etc. OFF. Leg-oiling is done in bathrobe mode

>>108195933
Are most mkg users mentally ill?
I bought a mechanical keyboard 5 years ago and am still using it. I bought a second one on clearance at Walmart.
Together, they will probably last me the next 40 years.
At some point you are devoting a significant percentage of your life to less than 1% improvement in optimization.

>>108217342
it's no different from dudes owning dozens of cars

>>108217342
thats the fun part though

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>>108217342
I just enjoy building things

>>108217372
baionzilla fr

>>108217342
it's just a hobby bro, ok?

Fell for the keychron meme

>>108217342
Call me mentally ill to my face and see what happens

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MX Blyaaacks

>his keyboard has a knob on it
Yikes

>>108218787
knobs > holes

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SUPPORT

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THE

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DESIGNERS

There's a REASON you want the GMK sets. It's because they're good, and because no large, money grabbing organisation will invest the time and effort to design them with the same flair, diversity and originality.

Yes, originality. They don't have the passion. I know some are similar to one another, but look at the ones that everyone wants... Olivia, Botanicals, Samurai... you think they're just coloured pieces of plastic?

Then why do you all want them so much then?

If it's all so easy, and they're all so overpriced, why not design your own?

Go on big shots... put your money where your mouths are.

Go on... post up your keycap designs.

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>wot if we just made hyperfuse again
BEHOLD, DCS SUPERWELD
SUPPORT THE DESIGNERS

>>108214125
i have tried 69 keyboards and this still my favorite one

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>>108221094
>no gay ass lighting
>no shitty software interface
>is correctly a rectangle
>high quality plastic you can feel it when you suck on it
yea
>>108220820
she can come to my house

>>108221144
Very nice indeed, anon. 65-68% is leagues ahead of 60% and smaller trash.

>>108219038
>Samurai
I remember when I first came to this hobby that was the only group buy running for GMK that I could find. People would heap praise on GMK so
I'd look it up and find Samurai group buys and think: "this is GMK? This sucks"

To this day I hate hate hate the Samurai sets

>>108221490
I got an ASA clone of Red and Blue Samurai from Akko before they basically stopped doing ASA and definitely stopped doing clone sets. Kicks ass having it in a sculpted profile.

i like the tenkey for nethack and caves of qud so i bought an externnal tenkey pad thing but i want a better one with mechanicals

>>108221540
Best numpad you can get off-the-shelf is 8bitdo's, but only buy it if you're not going to reprogram it at all

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Keycap/keyboard whales are something else. This local guy has nearly a DOZEN BNIB sets just lying around and he says he's got more but he can't be bothered to list them.

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>>108221767
Probably strays from the COVID era. Back in 2019-2021 there was a huge explosion of interest in the hobby, and that was also around the time where anyone could submit a IC/GB and have it succeed. GMK got a gigantic backlog of shit around that period, with sets like GMK Olivia going for 400 dollars and up hoarders. I'm guessing he was doing a similar thing, but eventually the market caught up and the hobby has settled back down into its pre-COVID activity.

Cherry profile keycaps suck dick

Akko tac75 he arrived, was 36 euros. It's really nice to type on, and the keycaps feel good as well. Hardly any wobble on the akko glare switches (the cheapest ones), their shorter travel of 3.4mm feels nice. Don't care for sound, but it does sound pleasant, except for the space bar which sound ass on the upstroke. Welp.

Haven't tested the configuration program yet cause it's win/mac only and rn I cannot be arsed to spin up my windows vm.

>>108214139
not dogshit and <$150

What the fuck? I posted a dactyl I built for someone that was returned because of hand size issues to faceberg marketface and got a bunch of messages. People actually are interested in this?

>>108223083
Hell yeah they are dactyls are unique and interesting. Ergonomic stuff always sells if it can be had for a good price.

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>>108223083
Yea, dactyls are neat.

I sold my cherry mx black keyboard for a gateron optical black keyboard but I think that I should have bought a HE keyboard

>>108221466
60% w/ split space >>> 65% > 60%

Baionzilla fr

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I bought Boba U4T V2s and they're inferior to MMD Princess tactile V1s/V2s and to Chosfox Voyagers. This hurts pretty bad because Boba U4Ts have gotten expensive since their own V1s became popular.

>>108226179
always go with established Chinese brands
fuck the legacy GOATs like Bobas or Zakus or whatever else
except Cherry

>>108226179
Princess has unacceptable pre travel.

Just bought some akko creampie purple
Are these thocky enough bros

>>108228244
>ackhoe
based

>>108226600
The bump's so good I don't care, honestly.

>>108226600
no one can tell the difference, sperg. It's marketing nonsense

>>108229058
I can definitely tell the difference because I hate the feeling when a switch doesn't have pre-travel

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First interesting thing Glorious has done since the GMMK Pro: "GMBK" 75%, it is a membrane keyboard with MX stems for keycap compatibility

I can't believe I fell for the Typeplus meme. I'm going to have to tear down this whole build and do it again with different stabs because they make the spacebar of this silent build so fucking noisy

>>108229269
>What if a membrane keyboard could have all the limitations of the Cherry MX ecosystem?
Incredible.

>>108229625
lmao
don't use polycarbonate stabs for a silent build
get the TX AP stabs they got POM stems
use dampening pads as well if they're included
or get the Staebies V2.1 in black (clear one is poly black is nylon) same POM stems
fucking get your G on d00d

>>108229709
Stabs shouldn't be adding noise. Why do these exist?

and don't use a spacebar switch with >3.6mm travel (NO FUCKING CHERRY)
your stabs will bottom out before the switch does
(only applies to long pole stabs)

>>108229727
Long pole switches sound like shit. Stop dispensing advice to people with better taste than you.

>>108229750
>only applies to long pole stabs
TX long pole stabs don't work well with full travel switches
that's all

>>108229777
I thought you meant don't use them in general. My bad.

Is Mode shutting down or what? The Sonnet isn't available and the other models are all marked as FINAL OFFERING.

>>108201310
>>108201445
Ok, thanks again for the link, I found and ordered a barebones Q1 v2 75% for 58 euros, which is pretty good I think. It's blue and apparently people don't like that, cause the rest was sold out or exorbitantly more expensive. Ordered some outemu silent v3 and tacky ice blue shinethrough keycaps for the full chinkoid experience. All in all 85 eurodollars. Will report back once everything arrives.

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I have a really nice TKL and a nice 60 and I'm considering getting a topre board before leaving this gay hobby. Is the platform better experienced through historic boards (Realforce as I'm looking at TKLs) or custom offerings (Sho, Norb, Noxary, etc)?

My budget is pretty much open.

>>108230766
if you’re going the custom route, dynacap is best. instead of an EC board with naevies, you could get an HE board with raeds and have something HE that feels like topre, but both naevies and raeds feel more linear than conventional topre.

if you think getting a EC board, regardless of whether it’s genuine topre or clones, is gonna be “end game” and you’re gonna stop then you’re delusional

t. putting raeds in a kafka

The cheapo chink WoB keycaps arrived, and they're fine for the price and given what I was looking for. The legends are iffy and vary in the consistency of the thickness, the lettering is oversized IMO, but what I find most important is that my K70 at least has keycaps that aren't made out of shit. Of course had to reuse the stock spacebar but it's not like I'm going to try and put more money in keeping this shitheap running. Now I have confirmed for myself that I do not need any backlighting as the monitor light is enough to illuminate the WoB legends, whereas those see-through keycaps were basically blank under such light.

It is interesting to suddenly go from the OEM profile to the Cherry profile. The Cherry profile keycaps are shorter, and the profile itself seems flatter, which I find to be pretty good for typing. In the future I'll probably both build a nice premium custom as well as get the F104, but this patchwork will do for now.

>>108231007
>navies, reeds Kafka "end game"
I'm an MX black purist who wants a topre board for fun, I don't understand all of this Redditor fagspeak sorry.

Took out the Typeplus stabs, rebuilt with Knight V4... guess I overlubed em because these stabs are SLUGGISH. Spammed one key until the lube redistributed a little and it's not as sluggish, but now it ticks.

I hate stabilizers. I hate silent switches. I hate keyboards. I hate everything and everyone.

>>108231094
ok whatever, go buy a realforce and fuck off then

>>108231321
return to cherry clip ins

>>108231422
thanks, good luck with your cunny pudding nigger switches or whatever the fuck you're trying to say

>>108230162
there is no longer a need for any keyboard to be made. AI made typing obsolete.

>>108231467
The Knight stabs were fine I just had to disassemble the board and wipe a little of the extra thick shit I put on the wire off, now they feel good. It was my fault, I overdid it when I dipped the wires in XHT-BDZ.

>>108231094
raeds are a currently-available switch product
Kafka is a (very promising) currently-available keyboard product
you definitely know what "end game" means lol

>>108229671
>limitations of the Cherry MX ecosystem
It's just keycap compatibility anon

>>108233082
yeah who cares it's not like anyone ever wanted a membrane keyboard to have good backlighting centered in the middle of the keycap

>>108233096
That's a more than worthy trade-off for actually having a customization option on a membrane keyboard to be desu

>>108226600
imagine disliking pretravel. there’s a reason bog standard mx blues are loved

>>108233577
Most hobby tards cannot judge switches without trying to optimize for some metric. "The thockiest most tactile switch with the least pre-travel and the longest bump and the least stem wobble and the smoothest push feel and..."

looking for a tmr keyboard, anything bigger than like 75%, living in the us, don't worry about budget, any recommendations? thanks in advance you fucking chinks just smoked a swisher full of that dank outside.

>>108233877
I'm white

>>108233877
Keychron K8 / K4 / K10 HE (Keychron "HE" is TMR)

Something something... mx blacks in my uh, ass, and what is it—thigh-highs for Geon..? Am I doing this right? (Bump)

I've never owned a proper keyboard before other than a shitty used logitech piece of crap that broke after a few months. I don't want to spend more than 150€ and I need a full layout, mostly used for playing games.
Any recommendation or things to avoid?

>>108217372
why not learn how to actually build stuff? Buying ikea furniture and assembling it isn't building furniture, and likewise slapping some keys and keycaps on a hotswap base isn't building keyboards

>>108234788
Because this just works. It's a consumerist hobby, not a full-time vocation. Simple as.

>>108234797
I still don't get it but you're right, there's no point in judging other people's hobbies

>>108234788
>hotswap base
Yeah I don't do that

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>>108230766
If you're going topre get a complete case and mod it with a Cip PCB and a better plate. Newer iterations are soulless.

>>108234788
Building an inferior thing to prove to myself I can isn't something I feel the need to do in this case.

Funny how doing as little as getting some cheapo wonky chinkshit GMK clones that are at the very least actually double shot plastic makes such a difference in how an old gaymer keyboard feels to type on. Just that ever so denser plastic is enough to make things better huh

>>108240725
Yeah honestly it feels pretty dumb to even care about keycaps but then you try some good ones and it's awesome
Especially for stabilized keys it can make a big difference