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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware -- industry is screwed until RAM/SSD/HDD catches up ;_;

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

I finally joined the 128 GB ram club with some DDR4 i got off facebook market place for $400 no tax no tip. i do not have to worry about the ram crisis anymore. i'm set for the foreseeable future.

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>nvidia manuel right now

Guys I'm so scared what if RE9 doesn't boot since we can't kindly receive the latest

>>108245501
Are They intending to unfuck ssds supply soon, any news of that?

>>108245549
customer service jobs in general are just awful. pair that with annoying gaymers and i'd probably want to commit sudoku

>>108245569
MH Wilds beta still booted and it didnt get game ready drivers until launch day

did they update the fsr on the new amd driver?

>>108245577
end of year ram and ssd will correct. if you can wait, wait, but if you must consoom buy sooner than later, we haven't peaked yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1rfgsmx/potential_price_increase_in_geforce_rtx_5090/

lol i'm not even trying to rag on nvidia but wtf

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>>108245659
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>Locked post. New comments cannot be posted.
>Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/nvidia.

>>108245706
jesus christ
the guy found something in the api that showed a new 5090 fe listing that was $228 more.

>>108245712
i believe it because ayn just raised their prices on thor
https://www.reddit.com/r/AynThor/comments/1rf5ej6/new_update_re_shipping_and_price_increase/

the ai bubble can't burst soon enough, so tired of these prices

>>108245712
there's rumors of a 5090 ti, because rtx 6000 series won't be out by the time rdna 5 is out, and a 5090 ti could be strong enough to keep the crown, but it would have a stock power limit of 750W but going to over 1000W when overclocked.

https://youtu.be/p5pZuUmpIyY

>>108245633
>t. in a country that doesnt sell ssds
Guess I'll consoom at a peak. Also require a few of those.
Still, >will correct by the end of the year,
brings hope

>>108245763
>rdna 5
They won't beat NVIDIA. That's part of the deal. AMD has never taken the win even if it's placed in front of their nose.

>February 26th, 11am PT Update: We have discovered a bug in the Game Ready and Studio 595.59 WHQL drivers and have removed the downloads temporarily while our team investigates. For users that have already installed this driver, or are experiencing issues with fan control, please roll back to 591.86 WHQL.

oof

they dont give a shit about gaming gpus, the ai gpus market is 10 times bigger

>>108245794
they do give a shit, they've been releasing neat features liek dlss 4.5 and pulsar just for gamers even if it helps their bottom line zero

nvidia will release new gpus when memory prices are less insane

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>>108245792
>Haha your shader cache is invalidated TWICE

>>108245820
why are you posting pictures of children here?

>>108245820
can't wait for the "i rolled back and now my games are crashing" posts everywhere because not all games redo the shader cache thing

>>108245829
drake bell is cool

>>108245830
FFXVI shits itself unless you delete a file hidden inside your appfolder.

>>108245820
Humilation Ritual for all who can't use ACO.

>>108245501
Best pro tip I can give: don't waste your shekels for PCIe Gen5 SSDs. You won't notice the difference to Gen4 unless working with very large files. Neither the OS nor games will feel any faster.

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I remember feeling bad for how much I paid to put a build together last year 2500$ for
>7800x3d
>7900xtx
>6000mhz cl 28
>msi mag x870
>1000hz psu
>360 AIO
>Lian-li Sup 01

Now I feel like I made out like a bandit only having paid 100$ for ddr5.

>>108245857
Based. Nothing better than loading faulty shaders.
On a side note, FF7 Rebirth's shader compilation makes my 12900ks pull over 350w. Even my open loop feels the burn with that.

>>108245934
i remember when my power supply pulled 1000w during rebirth's shader comp with a 12700k and 5090

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-unlaunches-its-geforce-595-59-driver-after-reports-of-fan-and-clock-issues

knew this nigga couldn't help himself

>>108246012
>edited via his 5090
Whatever helps them buy more NVIDIA I suppose.

>>108245501
>Keep NVME/SSD firmware updated
is this really important

>linus makes a sane video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05HRLuU--jI

>>108246037
it was once

>>108246037
Yes, if SSD firmware update ever happens it usually means there was something very very wrong with the previous version.

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>>108246043
is it over bros?

I've realized that my desire for a 5090 is only fueled by Cyberpunk
How long can I have fun on this game to warrant a 3400€ purchase?

>>108246168
none. it's just a worse version of gta 5. the only thing this game does better is the graphics and you can only look so much at them before you go back to playing it and get bored. they couldn't even make the driving fun. pc gaming is dead and goyslop killed it.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/

UPDATE NOW

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>>108246243
i hate...

>>108246243
do not update your nvidia drivers actually

On Amazon the MSI B850 Tomahawk has two listings:
>MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX WiFi
>MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX WiFi V1
Which one is the version with 64 MB BIOS? The page doesn't make it explicit.

>>108246310
buy both to get 96 MB

>>108246327
this guy maths

NVME

>>108245609
Nah. Seems to be optimizations for RE9 and Marathon. Little else.

Fuck this is a horrible time to need 4tb+

What is the correct way to setup a PWM fan hub? Is it really a good idea to have all your case fans tied to the same header and speed as the CPU?

>>108246168
I realized my desire for a 3090 is fueled only by prompting stuff locally like anime boobies exactly how I want them because it's fun

5070ti or 9070xt? Mainly for gaming, also wanna try a vm with gpu passthrough.

>>108246529
that sounds stupid. case fans cool more than the cpu.

>>108246539
whatever is priced better, unless you have a specific use case for one brand, like linux support or pulsar monitors.

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>>108246529
you tie them to whatever you feel like

>>108246168
Nope this GPU is a bait, by the time the true heavy next gen games come out the 6090 will release
The fact that CP2077 is still a benchmark staple after all these years tell you everything

>>108246168
Yep Cyber Punk is amazing on a 5090.

>>108246583
So buy a 6090 in three years when it releases and sell you 5090 for more than you bought it for. NVIDIA flagships go up in price.

>>108246604
I can't really enjoy 5090 because while the graphics are super sugoi and all that, the character animations are just as bad as they were in games from 2000

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>summer sale
>black friday
>crimas
what is the best time of year for prices on prebuilts? especially refurbished/b-stock/liquidation/open box shit

>>108246612
More like two years maximum
You'll probably be able to sell the 5090 at MSRP by then but honestly there are just no good game that warrant a nice rig
CP2077 is rushed and really rough around the edges, AW2 is wokeslop, Wukong is your dime a dozen soulslike, what's left?

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>>108246617
>what is the best time of year for prices on prebuilts?
never

>>108246613
>5090
cyberpunk on the 5090*

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>never
the least-worst then, chud

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still never

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Should I buy this

>>108246662
your mom is gay

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>>108246670
your dad is gay

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>>108246529
for me its triggers.if i ise a curve then as soon as they spin up it brings temps down below what i would call idle. then it starts a loop of spinning up then down that gets very annoying. triggers stop this.

>>108245547
you don't need nowhere near that much ram... i have 16gb of ddr4, and it's more than enough

>>108246741
i will need to look into triggers they seem to do exactly what i want

Thoughts on Jonsbo cases? Currently looking at Z20 and D32.
I was considering the Lian Li A3 but its too long.

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RAM prices went back up after a brief dip

>>108246627
So you play around with a flag ship GPU for years for free. Sounds good to me. CP has come a long way. It's release was horrid.

>>108246783
Until AI fucks off, RAM may take a dip now and then, but It will never be affordable.

>>108246834
you can just wait another month or two and buy the overpriced ram.

>>108246745
Do you not like AI slop?

>>108246866
I already bought when the rocket took off. Could have scored some a month earlier when everyone started losing their minds, but I did well enough.

> tfw fell for the 64GB RAM meme

>>108246928
Fast 32gb is where it's at for gaming.

>>108246663
nah. rtx 4000, 5000, or rx 9000 is all you should seriously consider at the moment unless you're getting a good deal on a used card.

>>108246928
>built 7800x3d system on launch
>bought 64gb kit for $200
>expo didn't work
>returned and bought 32gb kit for $100
still happy but I should've just got a 64gb kit that had a working profile with my motherboard. oh well.

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AMD officially abandoned gamers
>No SER OR OMM even on RDNA4
>no support for longvectors or 16 bit float specials on RNDA 3 or below
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/

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I have an old IBM server PC case and figured I'd turn it into a gaming rig for about 800 euro. Any recommendations for hardware ? I'd be running linux only and I don't need a chinese cartoon wife on my computer.

unrelated but wtf happened to the captchas since the last time I was here

>>108246168
Cyberpunk is graphically demanding but an intensively mediocre game, it's just riding on the good will from Witcher 3 to cover up how tepid it is from start to finish. Get a cheaper card, it will still max out any video game worth playing and you won't need to worry about your power bill or PSU.

>>108246939
I got 6000MHz CL36 at 250€, but it's on a 7800X3D so the latency doesn't really matter much

>Bought a 5070 ti

idk should I return it, it's a Asus Rog strix variety and i.couodve gotten a 5080 from pny or something for the same price

>>108247048
say it in English.

>>108247114
Only if it's close to MSRP. The 5080 is barely better than the 5070ti unless you're rendering tons of shit in blender or something.

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I know this is not a serious mod attempt and that I'm early, but be quiet floating HDD cages are actual fucking black magic. When I had that Pure Base 600 no sound would leak through whatsoever, I could not hear the high frequency idle spinning at all. Here even some foam padding and silicone can't negate the buzzing and high pitch whine.

Most cases not only are made from thin steel with no anti-vibration HDD cages, but they also leak a TON of sound. High frequency whining especially. Not the case with the 600, even the side air intakes on the front panel are made in such a way that there is no direct line of sight to the hard drives.

Fuck, if I don't replicate the acoustics of the Pure Base 600 within the HAF 932 Advanced it will be embarassing depending on how much money goes into that project. Cause I could literally keep the 600 on top of my table and not even perceive the ear piercing noise if the drives.

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holy shit

>>108247132
If you boughted AMD you are really dumb

>>108247132
Useless DirectX shit nobody uses. The world is moving towards Vulkan because that's what Android,Mac,iPhone,anything that's not Windows uses.

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>>108247176
good thing these same features are there on vulkan but not supported for AMD hardware

If I bought a 65 inch OLED TV to play games on, not as a main thing but if I wanted to play a pure single player game with HDR/actually good brightness is there any downsides to it? Like HDMI splitters having limited output

>>108247132
Raytracing bullshit

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>>108247180
Something something Nvidia is missing half the extensions of AMD on Linux

>>108247132
AMD lost

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>RDNA 3 officially on maintenance mode
i told you hardware unboxed lied, same will happen with RDNA 4 because it has no dedicated RT cores

>>108247234
Nvidias drivers don't even work on Linux and had to get pulled on Windows

>>108247064
Post pictures or fuck off your question is so fucking vague everyone ignored you last thread

>>108247241
AMD unboxed is an entertainment channel. I don't know why people even spout their nonsense.

>>108247241
5070ti and 5080 are already end of life according to nvidia

>>108247149
the case is comparatively small to the one you tested and dwarfed by the haf, it will be louder

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Am I supposed to use the adapter with 5070 ti or just use the 12V 6+2 on Rm750x?

Also the adapter has 3 branches (x4 ports), is it mandatory to use the 3 of them?

>>108247302
Lol

>>108247158
I would've bought this had I bought sooner and it wasn't $500 (50%) more than the 5070 Ti despite being only 15% faster.

>>108246884
No, I'm not a degenerate coomer.

>>108247302
funny how they still get directx12 features while AMD cards do not

What's it like having a 5090? How awesome would life be...

>>108247220
is anv nvidia?
I think mesa is open source amd, and radv is official amd?

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DROP THE PRICES

>>108247220
on no!
anyway

>>108247404
I need the price to double again so I can sell my kits.

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>>108247451
>>108247404
So you're this redditor?

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr5/lucky-pc-builder-orders-32gb-corsair-ram-kit-for-usd300-gets-a-box-of-10-worth-usd3-000-instead-plans-to-sell-all-the-extra-units-to-the-community-at-pre-ai-crunch-prices

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>>108247404
that was when I bought crazy it got so much worse /pcbg/ saved my ass

I could not have gotten this build if they wanted $500+ for it

>>108247312
I don’t think it’s necessary to use the adapter, I think it’s for psi’s without the proper connection. However, I didn’t realize this when I set mine up and I used it but now I kind of like the three cord look.

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>>108247404
>>108247480
I got in @ July. $80 for these bad boys.

>>108247459
I think that's bullshit and/or that image is AI

Because I mean, accepting that happened to somebody is just not fair

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https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/2027086678184317285

nvidia has removed the driver 595.59 released on 26th feb.

outraged users are complaining the driver on nvidia forum.
- youtube freezed
- hdr 144hz failed
- gpu fans stopped spinning
- voltage locked to 0.9v
- huge gaming performance loss
and more

>>108247570
hmm someone will have lost their job over this shit, the redditor should give it back

>>108247585
more vibe coded garbage from the AI slop factory

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>>108247614
>someone will have lost their job over this shit

probably not

if jeff bezos demanded amazon stop operations as a company i think the world would actually collapse, they are above governments

also guys, my pic, am i missing something or is the market really this messed up right now

>>108247585
Based NVIDIA giving AMD another chance. To bad they will shit the bed.

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>>108245501
Any recommendation for a wireless mouse+keyboard combo, I wish to spend around 50€ for mouse and 100€ for keyboard, also how good are bluetooth peripherals today, my board has bluetooth so if they are any good, it would be cool not to occupy my ports with shitty dongles.

>>108247747
bluetooth has worse latency and takes more battery.

I have given up to FOMO.
I have never had a desktop laptop, only gay laptops. After lurking the pc building space for a while and constantly raging at ram prices not going down, I fell for the rampocalypse meme. Rationalizing my buy as pc components will never get cheaper(at least for a while).

Ive bought a pre built because I was afraid I would screw up if i built it myself(and also might be cheaper?)

These are the specs:
>5060 ti 16 GB
>AMD 8700F
>32GB DDR5 RAM 6000Mhz 30CL
> 1TB SSD
> dont remember the motherboard

price
>1300EUR

I am used to savemaxing and being a super cheap fuck (like at a jew level) because I am a filthy poor, so this purchase kinda stings me alot.

How stupid was this buy? Or was it reasonable? I am looking at it as not so bad given the RAM,GPU, SSD prices...

Also rationalizing it as an investment, i feel like pc components will be the new housing (FUCK YOU I GOT MINE).

>>108247871
It's decent but you could've saved a bit more by staying a few generations behind, like a 5800X/T and DDR4 RAM instead, it's "only" about 10% slower, but the entire setup would probably have been 300€ cheaper.
If you had gotten the 5950X you could have been 30% faster in MT while still being cheaper than the 8700F setup.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6104vs6307vs3862/AMD-Ryzen-7-8700F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800XT-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X

t. still running the 5800X3D (the last CPU Homo Sapiens Sapiens is ever going to need)

>>108245501
So the Nvidia 50 Super cards are cancelled or what?

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>>108247959
5070ti and 5080 are cancelled lmao

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>>108247959
>So the Nvidia 50 Super cards are cancelled or what?

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>>108247965
>>108247996
>5070ti and 5080 are cancelled lmao
FML. I was going to buy a 5080 Super "finish" my build. Or a Ti if that ever happened, a man can dream of the glory days.

>>108247871
It seems fine to me. Like the other anon said DDR4 is the easiest way to squeeze out more value out of the build but that one will last you a while.

>>108247999
was in the same boat, but then got tired of waiting and bought 5080, thought i will just sell for small loss and buy a super later, glad i did that, before everything went to shit.

>>108247871
>like at a jew level
You know you could have said everything except for this and what you said still would have made sense.

>>108247871
Give us the brand of the mobo, psu, ram, and cpu cooler, and then we’ll make fun of you. You didn’t even build a pc so not sure why you’re here.

>>108247959
>>108248003
Ty anons, I know I did not minmax like I am supossed to but I was just tired of being a waitfag.
I also feel like this market is starting to look like pokemon cards so the FOMO scalper mentality is kicking in on high gear.

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>>108248025
That's great, how much did you pay? I wanted to skip the 5080 and go straight for the Super because I wanted the extra VRAM and hate hassling with my computer as I'm autistic about cable management.
The 5080 ProArt is like 1500€ right now, wasn't MSRP like 1000€ max?
https://geizhals.de/asus-proart-geforce-rtx-5080-oc-edition-90yv0n30-m0na00-a3575086.html
Also why the fuck are HX750i not being sold anymore? If I want a HXi PSU I need to buy a 1000W unit now. That would lower the efficiency of my system at base load (autism yadda yadda power is expensive in germany yap yap).
>>108248095
Pic rel

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>>108248099
Bought it for around 1200€.

>>108247999
>>108247965
>>108247996
Should have bought a 5090.

>>108248079
Welp Its just a base for me to tinker in the future. Seems safer starting from something and deconstructing when it gets outdated. Then eventually I will be able to build a new one if I choose to.

Also the psu is 750W and the cooler and brands dont know.

>>108248070
I thought you had free speach in this forum.
.

Should I try to buy this pc? https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-5-12032gbddr4-1tb-nvme-ssd-ca225f5060/p/N82E16883360957

my card COULD get frozen as my bank seems to not want me to make online transactions.

I installed a 7th fan into my PC, just a basic exhaust one on the back, and it doesn't feel like CPU is any cooler. Not even by 1C.

Brakes aren't stopping

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/hp-says-memory-costs-doubled-to-35-percent-of-pc-build-materials-in-one-quarter

we must blow up the data centers

>>108248287
You should really try to find a GPU with more than 8gb these days.

>>108248287
ok

>>108248355
>>108248166
oops

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Do you think I have room for a 360 AIO in the front of my case? Should I get one of those and just move two intake fans to the top of the case?

>>108248362
check on pcpartpicker
surely someone with that case has already tried

>>108248145
How are your temps on the vertical mount compared to horizontal?

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>>108248362
Usually not worth switching from a 280mm AIO to a 360.
Especially if you paid a premium for those Momentum fans when you bought that Meshify 3 case.

>>108248406
Am I reading this right? The 280 keeps the CPU even cooler than the 360?

>Especially if you paid a premium for those Momentum fans when you bought that Meshify 3 case.
They came with the case, and I think it was on sale for like $100.

>>108248400
To be honest didn't bother remembering, i only ran few benchmarks to see if there is any performance difference between riser and directly connecting to the board, and it was fine, so i left it like that. It's a fully open case, so i doubt there is any significant difference. If it's any use to you I can run few benchmarks and tell you what are the temps in vertical.

>>108245393
gamertits talked in one of his rants how Nvidia now uses AI to write new drivers.

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>>108246168
>year 2026
>retards are still falling for cyberjunk

Should I try to buy this pc? https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-5-12032gbddr4-1tb-nvme-ssd-ca225f5060/p/N82E16883360957

my card COULD get frozen as my bank seems to not want me to make online transactions.

>>108248424
>They came with the case,
The total cost for the case includes the cost of those fans.
You buy the Meshify 3 to use those three included intake fans.

>Am I reading this right? The 280 keeps the CPU even cooler than the 360?
At unbearably high noise levels, yes. 2x 140mm fans > 3x 120 fans at higher RPMs.

Most PC builders should be looking at the leftmost side of these temp to noise charts if they're prioritizing QOL.

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>>108248465
>The total cost for the case includes the cost of those fans.
Fair point.

>At unbearably high noise levels, yes
They haven't been too bad.
Even at 85% speed they are fairly quiet.

>>108248424
280mm and 360mm rads have pretty similar surface areas.
360mm are longer, 280mm are wider.
But ultimately 140mm fans are just slower than 120mm fans.

>>108248495
Guess I unintentionally made the right choice.
Solely because I realized a 360 AIO would not fit along the top of my case.

>>108247638
>am i missing something or is the market really this messed up right now
It's pretty fucking bad.
No one should be buying new hardware or upgrading their rig right now, unless you absolutely need it for work or school.

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THE IDLE BUZZ OF THOSE TOSHIBA HARD DRIVES IS SO FUCKING BAD IN A NORMAL CASE AHH WHY DID I RETURN THAT PURE BASE 600???

AMD would make a killing if they resumed production of the 5800x3d and 5700x3d...

>>108248548
>HARD DRIVES
>IN A NORMAL CASE

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>took 2 hours to install 5070 ti, check PSU and fix black screen
>"Damn, reset BIOS? Cmos reset? Drivers issue despite DDU install?"
>Just forgot to plug back one of these 8 blocs PCIE cable into the PSU...
>Finally done
I know, I know... I'll upgrade that CPU once prices are better. Here's some questions tho :
1) Motherboard + CPU + Ram bundle possible around Black Friday?
2) What are the best settings for RTX series 50xx?
3) AI bros, how does 5070ti perform for img2vid?
4) Is it worth to upgrade from 750w to 1000w PSU?
5) Am I grieving by using speccy instead of HWinfo?

So far, I did some progress in PC building but there is still that final challenge : Change Motherboard and update BIOS. Not sure I'm ready for that one...

>>108248464
You're buying a laptop desktop
No and stop reposting so soon

>>108248552
Inject copium

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>>108248552
They're better off using that V-Cache packaging capacity on more profitable chiplets.
They don't give a shit about some poor or frugal DDR4 PC gamers.
Those people do not matter, and they had more than enough time to buy into the AM4 -X3D CPUs.

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>>108248564
>HARD DRIVES
>IN A NORMAL CASE
ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY! HOW ELSE WILL I HAVE 38TB OF STORAGE AT MY FINGERTITS? THE HARD DRIVE CAGE DESIGN ON THIS CHASSIS WAS LITERALLY PERFECT.

>>108248587
>Inject copium
Is there anything stopping them from making these old CPUs?
>>108248600
>they had more than enough time to buy into the AM4 -X3D CPUs.
They were only officially available for like a year or so...

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https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/intel-foundry-boss-leaves-for-qualcomm-naga-chandrasekaran-takes-charge-of-the-unit

INTEL LOST
SIR

>Kevin O'Buckley, the head of Intel Foundry, decided to jump ship for Qualcomm
>Chandrasekaran now oversees both development of advanced process technologies and day-to-day execution of Intel's global manufacturing
>Navid Shahriari will continue to be responsible for packaging development and operations at Intel Foundry.
REDEEM INTEL

>>108248600
>they had more than enough time to buy into the AM4 -X3D CPUs
Wut? Like 3 years or something?

i tried to buy a prebuilt pc on newegg and my card got frozen again :/

>>108248145
>something like $2500 in computer components
>mounted to a wall with cracking plaster and a decrepit ceiling

>>108248607
>They were only officially available for like a year or so...
5800X3D has been available for longer, and AMD they gave frugal fags enough time to own a 5700X3D.
You had enough time to buy the 5700X3D @ $250 or the AliExpress $150 tray discount.

>>108248679
>You had enough time to buy the 5700X3D @ $250 or the AliExpress $150 tray discount.
How to get scammed 101
Also a year is like nothing lol

>>108248679
>the AliExpress $150 tray discount.
How legit is that website? I'm very iffy about ordering expensive stuff from chinese markets...

>>108248583
these are retarded questions lmao
yes
yes
poorfag should've bought a 5090 for ai
do you need more power retard?
fag

Which of you ni/g//g/as keep putting your pc on the desk? I know you're the reason I can't find a case I like that has it's i/o ports on the top.

>>108248656
based, bro knows his priorities

>>108248611
intel isn't intel foundry.

>>108248706
>How to get scammed 101
There were plenty of legitimate sellers, we've had plenty anons reporting their successful $150 purchases.
You just had to buy one from their recommended AliExpress stores.

>Also a year is like nothing lol
Not if you understand the development context of these CPUs, the VCache chiplets were meant for Epyc servers only.
AMD's already moved on to prioritizing DDR5 CPU platforms by this time.
Bitch all you want, AMD doesn't give a shit about (you).

whats the verdict on fsr 4.1? still waiting the bigger channels to do their stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXVV67JyqaY

>>108248724
Fractal has C on top

>>108248725
You can plaster your own walls, re-paint, or even install coving or literally plasterboard or anything home repair wise, building your own house is actually do-able for the majority of people, it's not difficult.

And its fucking cheap too, a whole ceiling of plasterboard will cost you like, maybe $100.

He's a fucking idiot.

they will make a new batch of X3D cpus on am4, they already said they would, they are going to shadow drop it ofc because people keep buying the 5700x, but the 3dvcache is coming, don't worry about it

>>108248789
native is dead.
nvidia doesn't demand a premium for dlss anymore.

>>108248796
you think fat fucking Americans that can't even be bothered to drive 5 minutes to chipotle for dinner and have to order doordash on a loan can handle the labor of doing even just home maintenance?
why the fuck do you think they're so vocal about keeping illegals in the country to do their yardwork for pennies?

>>108248789
dlaa/dlss quality and fsr native\fsr quality looks the fucking same when you're playing at 1440p or 4k now. they only differ when you're playing at balanced and below but those are real struggle mode handheld resolutions you shouldnt be using.

>>108248802
WHEN?!?!?!?!?

>>108248724
>put pc on floor
>sucks up dust that falls on the floor and gets kicked about
>put pc on desk
>only sucks up dust that lands on my desk

>>108248821
>they are going to shadow drop it ofc because people keep buying the 5700x

>>108248815
It's shockingly easy to decorate.

Some people have homes where there are holes in their walls and they could just buy some wall filler and paint over it.

It's your home, its where you live and exist, make it look nice man.

fsr 4.1 still not on dlss 4.5 level, but damn it's a huge improvement, things look much sharper than 4.0.3 and the fidelity of the black levels is improved, compared to fsr 3.1 it's a whole new world

>>108248821
It was just a diplomatic answer about considering all available options, not a commitment to reintroducing 5800X3D or 5700X3Ds.
AMD will stay the course as long as the DDR5 X3D chips continue to sell well.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/zen-3-comeback-amd-wants-to-increase-production-of-older-am4-cpus-ces-2026

They will have no problems selling Zen 6 X3D CPUs if that generation of chip turns out as well as rumors suggest. People will pay the RAM prices.

>>108248866
>People will pay the RAM prices.
lol, no they won't, there's literally no reason to build a new pc if yours is 6 years old or less, the gaming industry is in shambles and has been for the last decade, I literally only play online games and will play path of exile new league, the good games are old, the new triple a are trash
people only ever bought new pc parts because they were cheap compared to other forms of entertainment, now that they are not, no one is going to build pcs, they will buy the ps5 instead

>>108248889
but how will you play modded minecraft with raytracing?

>>108248889
They will pay the DDR5 RAM prices if Zen 6 X3D CPUs are a significant leap forward.
These are for 5090 owners, not frugal faggots.
It’s also in line with AMD’s prioritizing higher end customers.
They don’t give a shit about frugal, low profit margin faggots.

>>108248924
5090 owners, that's a handful of people, 80% of the pc market buys 60 class cards
you're a moron

>>108248924
>if Zen 6 X3D CPUs are a significant leap forward.
Can you imagine how fucking expensive the am6 rigs will be?

>>108248924
this but blackwell 6000 owners instead. 5090s are for poor people that dont matter.

>>108248930
AMD doesn’t want to sell low margin, discounted CPUs unless the absolutely have to.
Even the prices for garbage chips like the 5500 is rising.
There is also a finite VCache packaging capacity limit that was throttling sales of the 9800X3D. AMD is not wasting these capacities on $250 chips.
You are the moron.

>>108248930
There are more 5090 users than 9070 on steam.

>>108248954
btw, i sure am glad nobody talked me out of buyderizing one 2 weeks ago. its already up $700.

>>108249011
what do you need that kinda card for?...

>>108249041
i-im having a mid life crisis.

>>108249049
Who isn't?

>>108248944
maybe $200 more than when AM5 launched. kind of regular for inflation and tech progress.

When is intel releasing their new CPU?

>>108249151
bro who cares about intel aviv

>>108249162
I want competition is all. By then I'll be needing an upgrade.

Can I insert an AGP 8X 0.8V card in an AGP PRO 1.5V slot?

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>>108249162
they make better cpus than amd still to this very day for productivity, theyre just way too overpriced to be worth it. if they made a cpu with tons of l3 cache it would outperform the 9800x3d. amd still hasnt figured out how to make a decent memory controller its a shame intel is so retarded and greedy

>>108249198
You have no avx512 and hyperthreading. You have the illusion of performance propped up by 16 cinebench accelerators. You will never be a real production CPU.

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>>108248724
Stop whining .Get picrel. I have it and it's awesome.

>>108249187
my memory said yes and a quick google search said that the card will have a key that wont let it be inserted into a motherboard that would do damage. so yes if it fits lol.

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yo pcbg, should I be setting my fan curve based on Core (Tctl/Tdie) or CCD1 (Tdie)? It seems like it should be the die temp but idk.

>>108249238
Tctl is a time-step based average of CCD1+IOD hotspot temps
CCD1 tdie more accurately tells you what your CPU temps currently are but it also spikes up and down very rapidly which may cause your fans to go crazy

Use tctl for quieter fan ramping IMO

>>108248795
I'd get the Meshify 3 but my gpu is too big for it. I don't care for their other cases.

>>108248823
You don't put it directly on the floor, silly.

>>108249216
>wood
I'll look into it though. Thanks.

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>>108248713
There are legitimate AliExpress storefronts, you follow people's recommendations.
SZCPU has been recommended by a lot of people.
But the good deals are mostly gone for US customers due to higher tariffs and the suspension of the duty-free (de minimis) treatment.

>>108246259
Its crazy new drivers wont let fans spin, just read about it.
Nvjudea really trying to brick everyones card with jeet or ai coding

>>108246243
>>108249487
it seems to break custom fan curves set by 3rd party programs
should still work with the default fan curves thoughbeit

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>>108246243
kek

>>108249567
>code with AI, get shitty bugs everywhere
can't wait for the next gen of AI cards come out with some ridiculous flaw that will make the chips kill themselves like intel 13 14 gen cpus had

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Primary turned secondary.
Keeping it passive but with a better heatsink.

>>108249579
I use the hr-10 by thermalright

I also have 2 hr-09 pro by thermalright, they don't make these anymore, they're huge and don't fit the slow below the air cooler, I'll use them when I change to AIOs in 2040

>hr-10
I'd have gone with the Graugear g-m2hp04-f if I went with that style. I wasn't sure if it would have fit for my main though, so went with the g-m2hs03-f instead. Posted it some threads ago, probably too archived.

¿Opiniones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUh626bJgw8

>>108249689
burrito jalapeno

>>108246168
the game is mid.

>>108246168
that's a game? I thought it was a benchmark suite

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LOL

>>108249852
that is the only thing this game is good for. benchmarking. it's a snooze fest.

>>108249859
just in time to replace their burnt in monitors!

>>108249859
Just a provocative title.
He says most people are fine with miniLED monitors with over 1K dimming zones, which is true.

>>108249897
>>108249901
They are trying to push cheap shit lcd to kill off OLED so they can make more money by selling you slop

>Goy why do you need 8 million dimming zones? All you need is 1000!

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>>108249911
The RGB miniLEDs he's shilling won't be cheap for quite a few years.
And it's healthy for the monitor market to have alternative display techs.

>>108249922
Rgb miniled is even more pozzed
Fake dimming zones that are even less and Fringing
Be wary of any lcd shill

My PC keeps freezing because I under volted my CPU by too much. But I'm to lazy to go into the bios and fix it.

as long as oled has stupid burn in miniled will be the superior choice for people that work on the comptuer

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>tfw you ended up paying considerably less because you bought used parts

>>108249963
Can you really not just do a pixel refresh every few hours?

>>108249970
MiniLED and IPS panels don't require such bullshit. For the price of even a decent OLED panel, why the fuck should I have to worry about something like burn in?
>inb4 poor
I'm willing to pay $20k for a TV if it's truly that good, but I refuse to pay into the planned obsolescence companies engage in these days. Not even that anon, but c'mon man, have higher standards.

>>108249980
I have a keyboard hot key that will just run pixel refresh for me, takes a fraction of a second to press.
If ever just walk away from my PC I'll do a pixel cleaning. Next to zero effort.

>>108248095
Yes, a lot of the pricing is just straight up old fashioned scalping. Collusion fucking us over yet again.
>>108248976
Steam surveys are voluntary, and I promise you every single 5090 owner is desperate to justify their purchase anonymously.

oled is for watching tv or playing triple a games for like 3 hours max a day and leaving it off
miniled is for working and gooning 16 hours a day

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>>108249776
like this?

>>108249998
so i should get a miniled? didn't know that oled was for normalfags.

>>108248583
Your CPU is fine my guy, unless you're doing some demanding productivity work. Anything above the 5600x is going to be more of a pain to cool. Keep the 750w for now, 1000w is extreme overkill. Black Friday will be after US midterms so it's pretty much impossible to know if we'll still be in the current frenzy or not.

Oh and 16gb is more than enough for img2vid. If anything, you might want to go for 64gb of ram. Obviously the 5090 is the fastest consumer option but that's using twice as much electricity and costs four times as much. Not worth it with current local limitations.

>>108249996
it's the fact that it requires being done at all. VA, TN, IPS, etc don't require that. IPS of course being the best option barring backlight bleed. Technology is supposed to be forward, especially given the price point, not going backwards to the days of Plasma

>>108249911
I still prefer TN.
OLED looks good but I don't want something that will expire in <5 years.

>>108249963
You don't need more than edge lit slop for looking at text
Miniled lol it will fuck up your screen running dimming on

>>108249970
no. when I'm at my computer I want to use it. we've been complaining about this since XP when Windows was constantly interrupting you by alt-tabbing you and popping up about their updates.

>>108250027
If anything, you might want to go for 64gb of ram.
Why?

>>108250001
that's an avocado.

>>108250049
Video eats up ram like crazy when you generate at higher resolutions.

>>108250052
not inside dude, jalapeno and avocado

>friend upgraded build
>has a R5-5800X3D with solid AM4 X570 motherboard
>4x8GB DDR4-3000MHz RAM
>1TB Inland Platinum NVME SSD
He wants $350. I figure this is a solid enough deal seeing as you can't even get the CPU for sub $400 anymore let alone RAM prices.

>>108249980
OLED tvs last longer than miniled tvs

>>108250031
Plasma, crt, all superior to the lcd Jew that killed them
Now they are trying to kill the OLED
Because you want slop

>>108250035
But there's only 1080 600hz tn left though

>>108250044
With non shit firmware you should not be running a pixel refresh unless not using the display

>>108250065
would buy. gift him a furry game on steam as well.

>>108250065
Yeah the CPU alone is more than that.

>>108250065
Devil's advocate, why not just buy a laptop at this point? Those specs are just specs, they aren't going to let you game or do intensive work, why not get a laptop which you can carry around?

>>108250080
with a desktop you get all the performance all the time. with a notebook you get it for like 10 sec before you experience what it feels being behind a mig31 as it takes off.

>>108250071
will do
>>108250076
that's what I saw when checking ebay prices for the 5800X3D and 5700X3D as well. I'll jump on it then
>>108250080
>Those specs are just specs, they aren't going to let you game or do intensive work, why not get a laptop which you can carry around?
What? From the research I've done, the 5800X3D is more than enough for even modern gaming

What's a solid GPU to pair with this for 1440p gaming and running a secondary 1440p monitor? Mix of modern and old games. Would prefer to buy new because I've been burnt in the past by eBay former mining cards. I'm not doing that shit again.

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Thoughts on this bundle? Was planning to try and make a trip to a Microcenter, but Newegg has this. It seems pretty all right.

>>108250100
>the 5800X3D is more than enough for even modern gaming

It's a mid range CPU from 4 years ago, I'm just saying its like what, PS5 level?

>>108250100
5070ti or 9070xt

>>108250107
Imagine picking this horse up and fucking it like an onahole.

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>>108250132

>>108250146
Well, you were never going to post a chart where it sucked shit were you.

>>108250155
it's perfectly fine for old games and it's going to stay relevant for modern unoptimized slop thanks to it's rage l3 cache.

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>>108250132
are you pretending to be retarded or are you just naturally gifted?
>>108250155
not even me faggot. I literally just googled "5800X3D 2025" and found a popular video. This is 1080p meaning the CPU bottleneck would be even heavier in modern titles.

>>108250132
ps5 cpu is about as fast as a ryzen 2700 because of the high latency memory
5800x3d is heads and shoulders above the ps5's cpu

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>>108250132
am5 x3d's are more betterer and if ram prices were non-insane they're the obvious choice, but if amd started making more 5700x3d type cpus it'd be amazing for people with non-x3d cpu currently

>>108250171
he is retarded because he thinks any laptop is even comparable to a desktop even if it would "just" have a 5800x3d. notebooks suck ass. you get maybe 80% of the performance of what you payed for for like 1 min and then you get like half of that.

>>108250133
$900 for the cheapest 5070Ti in stock or $750 for the Sapphire Nitro+ 9070XT. Is there a reason the Nvidia one is more expensive? Is the software worth the price increase?

>>108250208
>Is the software worth the price increase?

ye

>>108250186
I think this problem doesn't exist with APU laptops though. this is really just an nvidia gpu thermal throttling issue.

>>108250208
>Is there a reason the Nvidia one is more expensive? Is the software worth the price increase?
you answered your own question but you have to decide for yourself.

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>>108250134
she’s so comically bad with electronics to the point that she broke a toaster by touching it

>>108250208
if you have to ask, it means you don't need cuda, so no.

>>108250216
>apu
those are the only notebooks that should exist and even then they thermal throttle.

>>108250215
>>108250218
>>108250226
it's purely for gaming reasons. I'm not using CUDA for pro work. I just don't want to be fighting driver crashes or blackscreens on new game releases and so on. I'm willing to pay $1000 (the $900 model was already out of stock) for the 5070Ti vs $750 for the 9070XT if it means better stability and reliability

If I'm on Walmart.com (not .ca), but something I want to buy has a price that looks like "$500.99/ca" does the /ca mean it's canadian dollars? If so, why can't I see the USD price?

>>108250216
>>108250232
you also aren't gaming on those unless you like smear and inconsistent performance.

>>108250235
nvidia drivers are notoriously unstable this generation. just read the thread, they had to pull drivers they published this morning, and they've been plagued with issues since the 5000 series released. I'm still on the final driver before 5000 series released which is over a year old on my 4070 at the moment.

>>108250251
do you think APU means Chromebook or something? they're as good as 60 class cards while consuming half the power and being more stable and efficient in low power situations and not throttling as hard when you unplug.

>>108250268
they are as good as 60 class notebook gpus. a full power desktop gpu is still better and a full power cpu is more consistent because it doesn't down clock as much under sustained load.

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What are the best SSDs?

>SATA SSD

Crucial
Samsung 870

>Gen3

Samsung 980
WD Blue SN5000

>Gen4

Samsung 990 Pro
Teamgroup MP44 SSD
WD Blue SN5100
WD_BLACK SN850X

>Gen5

Corsair MP700 Pro XT
Crucial T500
Samsung 9100
WD_BLACK SN8100

>>108250288
if it's not an enterprise or nas drive it's basically made to fail and a throwaway.

>>108250280
well that's the price you pay for portability and efficiency. I think desktop replacement laptops are stupid.

>>108250306
notebooks are stupid when macbooks exist. those things are magic.

>>108250280
>>108250306
>>108250314
What are the downsides of laptops