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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware -- industry is screwed until RAM/SSD/HDD catches up ;_;

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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Resident Evil 9 is out today

Is 64 MB of BIOS truly a necessity in AM5? Seen some models with it featured in marketing.

>>108253315
AMD's pajeet coders are retarded so they have to put in a separate copy of AGESA for zen 4 CPUs, zen 5 CPUs, zen 6 CPUs, zen 4 APUs, zen 5 APUs, zen 6 APUs, etc

>>108253315
A bios file is between 16-32mb. 64mb sounds like a "dual bios" feature that's often marketed on oc cards and mobos.

>>108253018
she put on some weight

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I have an issue that I suspect is caused by my PSU. Sometimes my desktop just shuts off without warning. No blue screen or something of the sort. Sometimes it reboots right away, sometimes it takes a while and it won't turn on for a couple of seconds/minutes, not even a quick turning on of the fans, just absolutely not sign of life at all when I press the power button. As far as I know, this points towards the PSU, but this happens about once day and everything works perfectly until the PC just shuts off out of nowhere. This can happen while gaming, but also when just browsing online. Before I run off to get a new 1000W PSU, pic related is my current system. I have 850W Corsair PSU. Any possibility that it could be something else or is the PSU?

>>108253479
850W is fine for that computer
how many fans do you have? are any of them old? dusty?
the fans might be staling out and tripping the PSU

>>108253492

I have three case fans, but they are around 7-8 years old. I just checked with typing this post and they spinning right now and I cleaned them from dust a few months ago. If it matters the 5080 is an Astral with a factory OC. The store page did say 850W is the minimum for this card.

>>108253518
>7-8 years old
that's on the old side, check the bearing
I had a PSU do what yours is doing for a year and couldn't figure out wtf was happening until I took out the front fan one day and found that the bearing was completely fucked.

>>108253479
anything overclocked?

>>108253539

Okay, I will have a look at it. Stupid question perhaps, but how can I check if the bearing is shot?

>>108253580
check for excessive play forwards and backwards and how hard it is to spin
mine was very difficult to spin

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>>108253417
marriage will do that

>no new actual GPU Arch's for over 5-15+ years it's all just recycled cuda and cdna crap
>Ram SSD HDD prices insane still
>Cpus and gpus barely affordable
Welp it's been fun bros guess I'll go back to banging fatties and working on cars

>>108253621
looks good on her, she looks like she's ready to get pregnant

thinking of selling all my DDR5 RAM (2x16GB 6000MHz CL30 XMP) from my PC
How much would it be worth?

>>108253588

Oke anon, I'm gonna do this. Thanks for the help.

>>108253563

The Astral 5080 has a factory OC.

>>108253384
It's not an dual BIOS. This is a single chip die, and there are few boards with two 64 MB BIOS dies.
>>108253315
It's hard to say, at first they said it's because of built in wifi drivers, so you can make that retarded microsoft account online.
On other hand x870e Glacial does have an entire interactive MB diagram, which some say it's thanks to bigger BIOS.
It could be also because they need to fit all those Zen4-6 or even 7 models, Zen 6 seems like it will have way more SKUs than Zen 5.

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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/

NVIDIA FINE WINE TECHNOLO/g/Y

POODNA DOESN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING AND WILL AGE VERY POORLY LIKE MILK, POODNA2 DRIVERS SUPPORT ALREADY ABANDONED AND NOT EVEN MENTIONED AT ALL

>>108253674
New games won't support all that stuff for quite a while, or game devs do a shit job at implementing them.
SER is basically MIA.

>>108253479
Rebuild the whole thing, or at least double check & optimize the power cable connections & routing.
If you can't be bothered, test the PC using a different power socket.

>>108253674
Native D3D doesn't matter in 2018+8 unless you're mentally challenged or technologically illiterate.

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So what are you doing for mobile gaming, /pcbg/?? I'm talking charter bus, airplane, hotel room type shit

Besides an obvious answer of Used Steam Deck or something?

>>108253758
Smartphone with a telescopic controller. Basically all 2D + early 3D console games in a device you already have. Deck-style handheld is the next logical step but I don't travel enough.

>>108253758
>>>/vr/hhg

Now that I upgraded from a 5 yo Gayming craptop to a PC I can firmly say that people crying about video game performance are third world or are setting their games to max settings when they are specced for middle settings. Every "poorly optimized game" has run smooth as butter and my cpu and video card have barely broken a sweat. It was all a grift, a new angle in the culture war.

>>108253758
all-in-one game device? Steam Deck.
reduce luggage and want something more comfortable at a desk? laptop. I was considering a nimo brand since I wanted aluminum with a high-end AMD APU.

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Panic at the disco

https://nypost.com/2026/02/27/business/dow-tumbles-500-points-as-growing-ai-anxiety-hot-inflation-rattle-wall-street/

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk5QtqsSj8Y
>PSSR its better than FSR 4

>>108253681
>>108253741
cope

>>108253978
FURTHER HAPPENINGS

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/claude-wont-be-allowed-to-engage-in-mass-surveillance-or-power-fully-autonomous-weapons-anthropic-refuses-to-lower-ai-guardrails-for-the-pentagon

death to AI
stop the funding

>>108254007
The new upscaling model's obviously going to trickle down to FSR.

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>>108254032
Only if Sony allows it, which they wont, its betiful AMD keeps taking L's

>>108253978
b-b-but fi-fity thou

I today discovered the performance tuning feature in the nvidia app. My card is already undervolted, but can I also use the performance tuning feature or will the undervolt cause problems?

>>108254039
Amethyst is an R&D collaboration you idiot, the upgrades will come to FSR.

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>Flickering and strange font bugs
>"Oh it's just 4chan anniversary shit or whatever"
>Go to another site
>Still there
G-guys, i bought this 3080 during the height of Covid, i can't take being screwed yet again...

>>108254146
win ctrl shift b
something something mpo

>>108254146
try a different cable

>>108254146
>don't plug things in fully
>wtf why is it not working?

>>108254020
I only talk to free men. Bring me your Microsoft™ handler or be quiet.

>>108254104
It's over https://wccftech.com/playstation-backing-away-exclusives-on-pc/ AMD Lost

>>108254085
the nvidia app voltage tuner doesn't work, but I did limit my 4070 to 75% power and had essentially no performance loss. if you care enough to overclock in a better program like msi afterburner there's no reason to use the nvidia app tuner.

Should I buy B850 or X870(E)? The MSI Tomahawk models look pretty much identical sans USB 4.

>>108250653
>9950x3d is HEDT
lmao

>>108254298
which one has the features you want?

>>108254298
how are we supposed to know what features you want

>>108254298
I rec b850
it has all the features you want

>>108254392
>>108254398
>>108254406
I don't know what features I want man, that's the problem. I don't have a particular need for USB 4 but given this build will likely last 8+ years then yes I guess? Having 3 M.2 slots is great but all of them have it, and also 5 Gbps ethernet. Is the post code that much of a big deal over debugging LEDs?
Honestly all of them have what I actually want:
>more PCB layers for "allegedly" more durability
>good Realtek audio implementation
>antenna that works for bluetooth
>3 or more M.2 slots
>good VRM to deal with the 9950X3D
>button to release GPU from PCI-Express slot
>plenty USB ports
>5 Gbps ethernet
The requestion remains if USB4 is a big deal or not really, since I don't think there is any difference beyond it between the models.

>>108254492
Displayport is a PCIe lane so you can run a cord from mobo thunder port to display for dGPU output if I recall correctly

>>108254574
With USB4 you mean?

>>108253479
Check event viewer and hope it's not error 41

>>108253674
50 series supporting all media format encode/decode will make justifying a new card very hard

>>108254492
>I don't have a particular need for USB 4
nobody does and if you did you'd be using Thunderbolt instead

>>108254492
you should build for now and the immediate future.
for example, if you plan on switching to Linux you should weigh AMD heavier than Nvidia.
if you plan on purchasing a Pulsar monitor you should purchase Nvidia.
but these are actions you should be taking within the next year at most.
I went B650 for my 7800X3D. I would have likely purchased mATX if I were to do it again, so a B650M.

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I have a phanteks xt pro ultra case. Would it make sense to make a small plastic 30 degree "ramp" on the bottom of the pc to channel air where it's needed? 3D print or DIY from scraps of polypropylene and magnetic tape for installation. I already removed the HDD bracket but was wondering if the airflow could be directed and optimized with a solution like this. It will not be visible from the outside because the glass side panel has a black tint on the psu shroud area.

>>108254724
I do use USB 4 for an external SSD

>>108255050
I'd only do this project for the love of it, you won't see much thermal improvement for all that effort.
Undervolting + overclocking the GPU will get you all of the practical efficiency gains.

>>108255127
Yeah, you're probably right. Might still tinker because intuitively this seems reasonable

>>108253018
I hate the AIntichrist
I hate the AIntichrist
I hate the AIntichrist

>>108255050
I have a much older phanteks case (p400s) but it has a sizable cutout at the front where the 3rd and bottom fan which allows more airflow into the main chamber as opposed to it being limited by the air holes at the bottom. I don't know why they did that, sounds kinda dumb desu.

An RTX Pro 4000 costs more than a nicer used card
Help

>>108255517
Car*

>>108255050
You can test by making air baffles from heavy paper or thin cardboard and measure your thermals.

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Is buying a heatsink/backplate for a GPU seperately even worth it? Got this MSI board here...

>>108255785
Not unless you have a 3090.

>>108255805
I almost did...

>>108255814
I have one. I waterblocked it and even got a separate block for the back plate. Water is the way to go.

oh nno no nonooo x670 sissies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrKZeEmu6UA

>>108254764
>>108254724
I've decided on the MSI X870E Tomahawk, thank you anons, wish me luck.

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Made some aesthetic changes. Not sure what to make of it yet.

The vertical GPU mount changes thermals a bit, I'm not sure I like it.

Here's how we're looking.

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>>108256274
And this is how we was.

mlid says zen7 will be on AM5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huRWonnGiCo

>>108255988
is this as simple as a bios flash or does it require real modding?

>>108256274
that GPU looks weird. what is it?

>>108256274
>The vertical GPU mount changes thermals a bit, I'm not sure I like it.
Please elaborate as I'm wanting to do a riser but I feel like it's just not worth the money and time to fuck with.

>>108256319
It's some wannabe professional MSI one.

>>108256274
That is one of the weirdest GPU coolers I've seen. Why does it only have one fan? Is it a blower? Why is the fan on the outlet side if it is

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>>108256274
>>108256284
looks great, i have the same case, but you need to invest in better dust filtering, i installed this into the main front case
www.ebay.com.au/itm/365900830206

>>108256319
MSI 5080 Expert OC.
It was the cheapest 5080 at the time I was buying, I got it for £960 and it came with 60 quid of steam credit.
I quite like how it looks. But, it's never going to match anything else.

>>108256339
Basically when it was horizontal, the GPU would idle with the fans off, and the case airflow would push air through the heat sink, making it idle around 25C.
With it vertical like that, if I don't set the fans to don't-turn-off-mode, it gets up to 50C at idle. Which is kinda high. But, with the fans on the lowest setting, it still idles at 25C.
I've not noticed any temperature difference under load.
I could leave it so the fans turn off anyway, and it's not going to overheat or do worse under load, but I don't really want to idle that high if I can not.

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>>108256427
No kidding.

REDPILL ME ON MINILED IS IT ACTUALLY AS GOOD AS OLED

>>108256491
it's better.

>>108256451
cool, i was able to, with a flathead screwdriver, open the metal bends that hold the mesh-plate in place, and after carefully cutting out the right shape, then hammering the bends back down, permanently install the pvc mesh pretty well. Do it on a towel/dish cloth so you dont damage the front panel from the impacts though.

>>108256284
Just look at all that ugly dust! This is what you get if you don't buy a case with proper dust filters.

>>108256440
Alright good to know. I'm glad now to stick with being with stupid anti-sag things instead of risers.

>>108253018
once upon a time, there were bellybuttons

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>>108253018
>Ryzen 5s are now minimum specs

>>108256512
The case is still new enough that I feel concern if I ding the paint with a screwdriver, I don't know if I'm ready to bend shit. But, it's better than dust.

>>108256518
Antec in their infinite wisdom decided that a £150 case only needs filtered airflow on the bottom. It's a nice case, but the lack of filter is very dumb.

>>108256539
Yeah, that was my motivation. The card is like 2KG, and the bottom fans make a support stick kinda awkward to put down. Plus I just don't really like how they look. The GPU also has a little pair of holes you can screw in a bracket to mount it somewhere, but I never bothered with that.

If I think if I'd stuck with having it horizontal, I'd have to have 3D printed something, because I really don't like having that much weight held in by a PCI-E slot.
Hopefully somebody comes up with some sort of universal solution and everyone just uses that.

>>108256620
There is no ####ing way games are actually doing things that necessitate that much compute power from the CPU.

>>108254724
> nobody has a need for USB 4
>>108255114
I too need USB4 for my external SSD enclosures. Need for Speed!

>>108256668
Yeah I have an MSI gaming trio and the front is all uneven. I'll stick with anti-sag because I don't like the idea of a riser that leads to higher temps idle with no fan.

I want the fan to be off as much as possible - I had my old PC GPU last me 11+ years (still works) bc it was idle all the time and fans were off and I had an exhaust fan right next to it (inverse atx). You may have seen it as an OP pic bc I'm usually OP... since no one else makes the threads

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>>108256795
My previous setup picked up a little bit of sag after like 9 years.
It'll depend a lot on the card, I guess. This 5080 is fully enclosed and air only goes through the fan faces. More open GPUs won't suffer so bad.

Besides, I figure worse case, I'd rather replace the fans than unwarp a PCB.

>>108253018
> 70 €uro
Thank God every RE game to date has been repacked and this too will make no exception.

>>108256491
Depends on how much you'll notice the blooming

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>>108256264
Would drive me nuts to have only three M.2 slots if I use USB4. On a board for 300 bucks!
There are similar priced boards that support up to five M.2 slots without annoying lane sharing.
The Tomahawk looks very nice but is unfortunately bad value.

>>108257015
It's either that or crippling the GPU with x8 PCI-Express man, though to be fair that doesn't really matter that much.

>>108256440
50c is a lot, change it back.

>>108256339
vapor chamber doesn't work good in vertical position.

why doo ebay sellers have to be so gay

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>>108252938
How fuck am I? This is PCIe pin 82 on the B side

>>108257079
They prey on other homos.

>Italy introducing a "Cloud Tax", introducing a monthly fee per gigabyte of up to €2.40 per user. Fees for smartphones, PCs, and hard drives are also being increased.

>>108257329
Leftists are so fucking retarded.

>>108252938
What's a good price for a used 5800x3d or 5700x3d in your opinion?
I don't think I'll be able to upgrade to am5 anytime soon, so might as well try and get a good am4 cpu instead.

>>108252938
the "What?" gets me evertim

>>108257778
> a used 5800x3d
250 bucks

>>108256284
sovl
>>108256274
sovlless

>>108256853
there's already a hypervisor crack for the game

>>108257329
>The fee will be calculated on a monthly basis per user and per gigabyte : €0.0003 for each GB between 1 and 500 GB, €0.0002 for any excess, with an exemption of up to 1 GB and a maximum of €2.40 per user per month.

>>108258090
> hypervisor crack
If you want to drop the pants to play it....

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The best time to buy was yesterday. During the best time to buy, the best time to buy was before then. Then, that was not the best time to buy, but 1 year ago prior. I don't know if I should just bite the bullet, or wait until the "march deals" roll out. Doesn't help things that I'm paying the third world(canadian) tax.

>>108257184
Some pins are pinlets by design

>>108258120
if you're unfamiliar with hypervisor cracks its the same exploit as xbox 360 (which also runs Windows NT hypervisor)

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>>108252938
Can someone take a quick glance at my build?
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/RREQLETFQW6Y?ref_=wl_share

The last time I built a computer was 5+ years ago.

Things I'm iffy about:
-CPU Cooler/Memory clearance
-Type of connections for fans, I'm assuming the PSU has multiple types
-Not sure if I need a B850 mobo, could I go down to B650?

>>108258136
You are not approaching this problem properly. Do you need or want a computer? Buy one. It should last for five or ten years depending on how much you spend on it. At the end of this period, prices will either have come down or not, and the cycle repeats.
Sadly, I believe we are past peak low prices. Be used to the new normal.

>>108258055
I happen to own one and this would be the lowest I sell it for if I no longer use it myself.

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There's this trend in modern case designs (exemplified by the billion ugly fishtanks on the market) where they shrink the potential space for a tower air cooler while also making the case wider on its X-axis, toward the twin goals of fitting bigger AIO radiators and to generally hide more shit in the back (2.5 and 3.5" HDD/SSDs into secret compartments, shrouding the PSU, to enable BTF mounting, etc.) and I'm in this situation now where I'm searching for a case that's about 20cm wide + can be set up horizontally and also supports a MATX mobo + 4 slot GPU and there's just fucking nothing like that on the market.

Is there anything out there like the Silverstone Crown 04 but slightly shorter, or the Fractal Ridge but larger?Alternatively, shaped like a 4U server case but wider? Whatever I pick needs to sit on a shelf in my TV unit this size:
>22cm (H) x 104cm (W) x 48cm (D)
So I have a ton of space to play with horizontally, and in terms of depth, but width has a hard maximum and its seeming to rule-out 99% of all cases I'm finding that are available/still in production.

>>108257015
>There are similar priced boards that support up to five M.2 slots without annoying lane sharing.
Which ones?

>>108258158
Why are you using Amazon wishlist. You should be using pcpartpicker or pangoly. We put those links in OP for a reason.

>>108258312
cause I don't want to order from 5 different places
I'll put together a pc part picker with the same items if it helps though

>>108258227
>>108258227
If you want horizontal you search for "HTPC" case and buy second hand bc there were awesome ones in the 2010s

>>108258347
I recommend you so buy from 2 places: Amazon and Newegg
Fren, Newegg gives you great mobo+RAM+CPU deals but you gotta check daily

Plus those websites (pangoly and pcpartpicker) help you figure out compatibility
buy a case you like first then you figure out the cooler that can fit
Google AI can help determine max cooler height when comparing two different scenarios
Also keep in mind if a motherboard has a M2 NVME heatsink cover, it will not fit with an SSD NVME that also has a heatsink

Here's a website to watch for combo deals
https://slickdeals.net/deals/memory/?filters%5Brating%5D%5B%5D=all&filters%5Bprice%5D%5Bmin%5D=&filters%5Bprice%5D%5Bmax%5D=&sort=newest

>>108258377
do buy*
and I mean choose a case first, then pick a CPU cooler
I'd stick with 850/870 chipsets so you may upgrade to a zen 6 CPU in 5-6 years maybe

>>108258377
thanks bro, I didn't think about the SSD heatsink
here's the pcpartpicker https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cGnVn2

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>>108258158
$375 for 2TB SSD? and it's not even PCIe Gen5!
I just recently got a WD Black SN850X 4TB for €394 / $465

$88 for an air cooler? Why not an ALF3 AIO?
No need to worry about memory clearance in this case.

DDR5 CL36?
How about the Patriot VIPER VENOM DDR5-6000 DIMM CL30 Dual Kit?
It's only little more and the difference in latency is significant.

I would recommend a much better mobo for just 50 bucks more, picrel.
50 bucks is so little money and the value is so much higher!

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>>108258267

>>108258414
this is the type of info I'm looking for, thank you, I appreciate it!

>Current trend is to put a tiny oled screen on your AIOs CPU heatsink
>Also an oled on your case itself to show idk, CPU/ram usage

What a waste of money, you're going to glance at that like once or twice then realise it's just a resource hog.

>>108258431
no it's for disney adults to put pokemon gifs on it to match their rainbows.

>>108258424
That one only has one PCI Express 5.0 M.2 slot, while others have 2 or more, and in all of those you can decide to use just one of the PCI Express 5.0 slots, by doing so you won't cripple the GPU slot or the USB4 lanes. Also:
>ASRock
I bought a 9950X3D, I am not going to try my luck with ASRock.

>>108258424
>>108258450
Correct, that's a scam board for people who can't read the spec sheet
Four of the five m.2. slots go through the chipset so you're limited to gen4 x4 when using 2 or more of those four drives simultaneously

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Replacement hard drive came in. Kind of irritated that it's only refurbished since it's replacing one bought less than a year ago. So long as it works, it's going in a solid case out of sight.

>>108258482
>Correct, that's a scam board for people who can't read the spec sheet
Bro, every other board was considered a scam because using the advertised multiple 5.0 M.2 slots would cripple the GPU
Now the Nova is a scam because it doesn't do that.

>>108258427
>>108258414
>>108258377
I've updated the parts per feedback. Here's the list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVmzyF
Also, I don't want to mess around with an AIO cooler so I'm using air.

>>108258414
Or this RAM
DDR5 6000 CL30
for $398:
https://www.amazon.com/PULSKILL-2x16GB-6000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0G4BGHWBH/

>>108252938
I LOVE talking about vram

>>108258531
>no name brand with no reviews
I'd rather not roll the dice

>Nvidia pushes a driver update that uninstalls other Nvidia drivers so my 5070 Ti and P40 can't work together anymore
>Manage to find a way to get it working again after weeks of hair pulling
>Nvidia ties their new upscaling model to their stupid app and makes the app uninstall itself if it detects an unsupported card
Jesus fucking christ, what the absolute FUCK is wrong with these triple niggers? Is it really to much to ask to just be able to use hardware I own that would clearly work just fine if they would let it?

>>108258516
non-x870s dont have that problem
also msi's x870 boards from day 1 could allocate half or all of the usb4 lanes for a 2nd gen4/5 m.2. drive connected through cpu lanes

Can nvidia unfuck their troonix drivers already? I only use shitMD out of necessity. No, I won't use Winjeet.

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>>108258516
Realistically the only way right now to get 2 PCI Express 5.0 SSDs without crippling anything is by buying B850 but then how is that much different from buying a X870E with 2 5.0 SSD slots and disabling USB4? It's not like you have USB4 option with B850 anyway. Or you can decide to run your GPU in 5.0 x8, and according to TPU testing, you lose virtually 0 performance by doing so with a 5090, so who cares, and run up to 3 5.0 drives.
It all boils down to whether you care about USB4 or having more 5.0 drives.

>>108258450
> only has one PCI Express 5.0 M.2 slot, while others have 2 or more
And you buy 2 or more Gen5 SSDs? Really? Why? As if Gen4 SSD were not expensive enough yet! And you won't notice the difference in loading times of games anyway, it's marginal at best. As you can see I didn't buy even one Gen5 SSD because I don't work with files large enough to make it worth the premium.

>>108258573
>Nvidia ties their new upscaling model to their stupid app
if it doesnt work on their base drivers, it doesnt exist to me

>>108258575
You're still sacrificing something
Nova was considered the best compromise for what the platform offered.
You can use all 5 slots without giving up anything even if 4 of them was trough the chipset

>>108258591
Now all the sudden GPUs at 8x isn't so bad and people are suddenly hungry for PCIe 5.0 CPU connected M.2?
What changed? Do people need epeen bragging rights on their RAID 0 array to join the kool kids club now?

>>108258591
If you're fine with Intcel, there are plenty Z890 boards that let you do that. X970 boards will probably be much better because OEMs are in the middle of ceasing to sandbag AMD boards. And moar lanes.

>>108258450
> I bought a 9950X3D
My system for a year now proves that it works perfectly safe & stable in a Nova if you leave the PBO scalar at 1. PBO itself is no problem.

> Scalar is a tool that allows the user to override the warranted silicon stress level, or FIT, to achieve higher frequency. You can adjust the maximum allowed FIT level to 10 times higher than the factory-fused limit. While the tool offers precise granularity, typically, you’ll find the available options to range between 1X and 10X in steps of 1 multiple.

> The effect of increasing Scalar is that the Precision Boost algorithm should aggressively pursue higher voltages as it is less concerned with CPU lifespan.

https://skatterbencher.com/amd-precision-boost-overdrive-2/

>>108258665
>Nova was considered the best compromise for what the platform offered.
by people who can't understand the difference between cpu and chipset lanes
>You can use all 5 slots without giving up anything even if 4 of them was trough the chipset
your giving up bandwidth if, god forbid, you try to use 2 or more of the chipset connected drives at the same time

>>108258665
>Nova was considered the best compromise for what the platform offered.
IMO the biggest problem with the Nova, disregarding the potential X3D issual for a moment, is the position of the second physical x16 slot, it's too down there and will be a problem if I want to install my GPU there for troubleshooting if the main PCIe slot ever gets problematic.
>Now all the sudden GPUs at 8x isn't so bad and people are suddenly hungry for PCIe 5.0 CPU connected M.2?
I mean it's PCIe 5.0, running it at 8x is not that big of a deal IMO, that whole clusterfuck only happened because it was AMD/Nvidia cheaping out on the lower end cards which would likely be used in old motherboards that only had PCIe 3.0, not PCIe 5.0, but I understand where you are coming from so I won't argue about it any further.

>>108253492
> the fans might be staling out and tripping the PSU
This happened to me once. I was unplugging fans as part of troubleshooting and one of them was shorting the mobo somehow.

>>108258737
>your giving up bandwidth if, god forbid, you try to use 2 or more of the chipset connected drives at the same time
People often aren't using multiple M.2 at once at full speed.

>>108258742
>I mean it's PCIe 5.0, running it at 8x is not that big of a deal IMO
People were discussing this even with PCIe 5.0
Every time I talked about CPU lane splitting it was extremely clear I was in the minority for a preference on having 8x/8x slots on a mobo. No one would entertain the idea.
Now I see two people who are actually like >le lane sharing is good actually
Just whiplash as all

>pci-e lane splitting

if i just keep my gpu in the top slot and use a single nvme drive in the main slot my shit will stay running at x16 right

i have a 5.0 nvme card

>>108258665
> You can use all 5 slots without giving up anything
If you use the 5th M.2 x3 slot you can't use the PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot but that runs x2 only and you would probably not use it anyway. But let's say you wanted to use a 1080p capture card in that slot (it's just enough bandwidth for it) you wouldn't be able to use the M.2 slot at the same time. I would just use a USB capture card instead. I can btw still run a cheap extra WiFi 6 card in the PCIe 3.0 x1 Slot x1 that I get a Windows 10 driver for. I didn't want to install Windows 11 just to use the onboard Wi-Fi 7 Module.

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>>108256668
>The case is still new enough that I feel concern if I ding the paint with a screwdriver
if you do it the way i did, the only scratches will be on the rear of the panel and utterly invisible to outside eyes.

the airflow is soo strong it doesnt even weaken much when it gets filled up with dust.

>>108258801
>Now I see two people who are actually like >le lane sharing is good actually
I can't speak for others but I've been in these threads only recently as I am in the process of building a new desktop in the past weeks.

>>108258525
> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVmzyF
For the money of that 2TB Gen5 SSD you almost get a 4TB Gen4 SSD.
If you plan to install the OS and the user profile on it, the theoretically higher bandwidth over Gen4 will be wasted.
The OS reads and writes small files only. Even games don't benefit perceptibly from it. It's really not worth the premium unless you use it for heavy work on and with very large files.

>>108258887
Fair enough.
Last few years have been nothing but absolute hysteria over PCIe lanes.

>>108258801

how do you know what people do maybe they have hyper in every suitable pcie slot

>>108258966
making shit up to win internet arguments is foruming101

How to troubleshoot properly, /pcbg/? My new rig won't stop crashing (inb4 AMD lmao), I think the 9070xt is to blame, It keeps freezing to a hard reset.

>>108258988
youve got to take each piece and try it in a system where you know the other parts work

Oh shit, I wasn't aware that a secondary SSD might be running through the chipset or stealing bandwidth from the GPU.

I've been buying the parts for a new PC build piecemeal, so I haven't assembled anything yet to test it, but did I potentially fuck up by ordering this?
>https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B850MPOWER/Specification

Going to switch out a 2070 to a 9060 XT.
With the 2070, all I did was let Windows handle the drivers and I've been fine. Can I do the same with the 9060 XT?

>>108258974

i have single slot pcie adapter with wd green
yes i have not tried to maximize

>>108259008
yeah you can completely ignore your drivers but why would you buy a new video card if you don't use it for anything but a display output?

>>108259028
I've had no issues gaming with just the Windows drivers. The games I play never ask for the newest ones, and they work just fine.

>>108259005
That board is fine
It has basically no lane sharing since it doesn't have usb4 that wastes x4 CPU lanes

Ok after all the discussion around motherboards in this thread, I canceled the MSI X870E Tomahawk and went back to the decision board. These two are the same price in my region:
https://mobomaps.com/board?board=gigabyte-x870e-aorus-master&compare=1&board2=asus-rog-strix-x870e-h-gaming-wifi7
I am >>108254492 and I'm adding one more thing to my requirements:
>at least a second PCIe slot that can be used for GPU troubleshooting
I'm about to just toss a coin and let it decide over me, fucking hell.
Oh right the RAM I'm going to use is the KF556C36BBE-32, which is at 5600 MT/s but I'm going to try my hand at overclocking it to 6000 MT/s. I did notice this RAM is not on the ASUS QVL list but I'm not sure how much that actually matters since I will have to overclock regardless. I am leaning towards the Aorus Master as it has an extra PCIe slot, although I'm not sure how useful it will be for me in the long run.

so i may be getting into trucking as a fulltime job, but i still want to vidya. the trucks will be slip seated(meaning, i don't have my own truck, it's just used by multiple people) so simply building a pc tailored to a truck isn't feasible.

putting it simply, i'm looking for a good laptop for gaming. i'd grab a steam deck, but some games aren't steam deck compatible. any suggestions, or wrong thread?

has there been any new cases or parts launches or anything to talk about besides crying about prices

and not the msi lightning anything else

>>108259188
buy a legion go 2

>>108259189
all the cool shit is happening on the software side now not the hardware side. hardware is good enough now we now need software to take advantage of it.

what's the static situation for building
barefoot on hardwood and touch the case every 5 mins or so?

>>108259172
what cpu are you using? why not just use the integrated graphics on it for troubleshooting?

>>108259188
the kinds of games that aren't compatible on the steam deck aren't the kinds of games you can play with a controller anyways.

>>108259432
I bought the 9950X3D and yes I'm aware it has integrated graphics, I meant to say troubleshooting the GPU itself.

>>108259450
Aorus Master is usually a tier higher than the Strix-H board.
The ASUS equivalent for an AORUS Master would be the Strix-E or Carbon for MSI.

>>108259172
both of those boards have pretty horrid lane sharing
if you have to choose one from either of those brands, look at gigabyte's X3D refresh boards or asus' NEO refresh boards instead

>>108259505
Fair enough.
>>108259513
I feel like I'm going to end going back to the Tomahawk.

>>108259137
OK, I have 2x Gen 5 SSDs so that's a huge relief.
Thanks for confirming.

>>108259563
tomahawk is alright

I have 3 intake fans controlled by the 3 system fan headers on my mobo and one exhaust connected to a fan controller built into my case, but it requires manual control with 3 levels. I usually only keep it on the first and lowest levels because the fan gets audibly noisier at the 2nd and 3rd levels, however I'm now realising my high temps sometimes could be because I'm not exhausting enough air out. So I'm thinking of connecting that exhaust fan to a fan header via a splitter but the way my motherboard handles fans is a bit weird and I'm not sure how it determines which fans to spin up when a temp threshold is hit, because in the bios as far as I'm aware they're all set to the same settings and my mobo has an auto fan off option which turns them all off under a certain temperature or load. But it'll also turn just one on at a time, for reasons I can't figure out. So my question is, if I connect that exhaust to a header which is already occupied via a splitter, how can I know which one to connect it to so it doesn't stay off when I need some airflow (like I mentioned the mobo turns them off but will turn on a random fan sometimes). And secondly shall I just use 2 intake fans in the same header via a splitter instead? I'm not sure how to tell my mobo which are the intakes and exhausts.

>>108259716
1. Disable fan off and setup a custom fan curve
2. Put the same model of fan onto the same splitter if possible
3. Put your exhaust fan on it's on connector and set a specific fan curve just for it
4. Check the motherboard manual and see what each fan header is labelled as. There's a specific name for each header like CPU, AIO_PUMP, CHA1, CHA2 etc.

>>108259761
Cool thanks. Since I'm going to be messing around with the fans I may as well just replace them. What are a good value set of fans known for their silent operation including under load? Might also replace the 2 thermalright cpu tower cooler fans because they get audible at high RPM. So 4-6 fans that aren't crazy expensive but prioritise quiet operation.

>>108259103
thats really really retarded, install the damn drivers, its not hard. Especially if you don't have any Njudea drivers existing on your system, you don't have to uninstall anything.

There's corners you can get away with cutting because its not worth the effort, like fresh-installs of windows, but this is simply not one of them, install the fucking drivers and don't ask this again.

>>108259971
I think there's been a misunderstanding here. Windows update installs a WHQL driver for any GPU that you have.
It's not that I haven't been using Nvidia drivers at all, it's that I've been using Nvidia drivers provided by Windows Update, which have been stable for my case since I don't play any games that need the newest ones.
What I originally asked was if I could do the same with an AMD card.

Flux Pro or the Hyte X50?

>>108260007
you'll want the dedicated, separate driver provided by amd. It is not difficult to install and allows for a great deal of customisation.

Most importantly, you can set hard fps-limits to sync with your monitor, so a new game doesnt melt your gpu in the menu screen because its poorly optimised and is rendering your UI menu at 500fps.

>>108260010
flux pro if you have the space, i love mine. But you will need to mod in an additional dust mesh filter for the front mesh intake. Ebay will sort you out with pvc dust mesh.

Flux pro for the extra usb+usb-c connectors at the top of the case alone.

>>108260029
>Most importantly, you can set hard fps-limits to sync with your monitor, so a new game doesnt melt your gpu in the menu screen because its poorly optimised and is rendering your UI menu at 500fps.
Is this overheating a problem with AMD? I've never had issues with my 2070 even without messing with anything the Nvidia Control Panel.

>>108260102
max out your power limits for your gpu and youll see your temps go up

>>108260045
Big for a mid tower?
>But you will need to mod in an additional dust mesh filter for the front mesh intake
Why is that? Does it not come with one, or does the one it comes with just not do so well by itself?

>>108260116
So I guess as long as I don't do that, it's fine. I'm ok with that.

>>108253018
Boring ass survival shooter gaymes with 0 gameplay fun. Just keep stumbling with near zero ammo and getting punched to death.

I know we aren't supposed to speak of news. so like check the news idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ECm1rVhyc
this video might trigger some people

>>108260292
yeah, the bad guys are attacking Iran and the amerimutts are going to die for their masters, thats how it has been for the last 20 years, it's predictable at this point
the thing is if china smells the opportunity and invades taiwan the hardware winter will get far worse

>>108260355
not watching. just take a screenshot and give one sentence to describe the screenshot, otherwise you have no point.

>>108260292
I don't live in Israel or Iran, so no.

>>108260355
why does the card that costs $300 more perform worse?

>>108260452
jeets borrow money to buy nvidia.

>>108260452
because it's a game that finally uses 99% of both cards instead of being optimized for nvidia

>>108260462
i'm sorry i really don't care about whatever pathetic racist comment you have to say
>>108260463
why does the card that costs $300 more perform worse?

don't quote me ever again you stupid ape

>>108260485
Maybe develop a brain you fucking moron

>>108260452
because it has DLSS! and CUDA!

In the past, how long did it take for prices to go back to normal after component shortages and price increases?
Has ram ever been this expensive before?

>>108260452
>>108260470
because the goym pay for it.

>>108260557
Why aren't AMD goyim then?

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>>108260564
>Why aren't AMD goyim then?

>>108260577
You literally said they weren't here >>108260557

Why are we still here?

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>>108260590
>Why aren't AMD goyim then?
>>108260557
>because the goym pay for it.

>>108260452
Because the benchmarker disables half the features of the card.

>>108260603
Oh fucking kill yourself.

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>>108260605
you usually run the same settings for both if you compare.
>>108260607
shup goym

>>108260623
>Ask a question
>physically incapable of responding outside of slurs and pepe posts

fuck off retard

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>>108260635
and you don't even know what i am saying. like what is >>108260564 supposed to mean when i said >>108260557 and this is the definition of it >>108260603

you could see he's retarded when he quoted me without understanding what I wrote

>>108260623
Okay, run it with FG, DLSS/FSR and PT.
That way both cards get fully used.

>>108260649
>FG
>DLSS/FSR
>fully used

>>108260660
What hardware do you think it is that does these processes?

>>108260642
>still physically incapable of responding without using a pepe image

are you even listening?

>>108260647
nobody likes you

I knew the video would trigger some people, didn't expect it would be dumbest nigger in the thread

>>108260642
>>108260675
And why would I help you when you're blabbering about nonsensical drivel

>>108260681
Cry about it

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>>108260675
if the pepe is all you can see i am going to keep posting them.
>>108260668
the resulting image of both cards is not the same. at this point you would have to show an uncompressed video file.
>oh the shiming is more noticable on this one.
>oh the floor looks better on that one.
>oh the textures are moving on this one.

>>108260690
Grow a pair of balls holy shit

>>108260690
The purpose of a benchmark is to showcase what the card can render, and at what FPS.
Not a metric of disabling half the card so it can produce images that look the same as a different card.

>>108260695
buy the gpu goy.
>>108260699
>render
>render
>render

>>108260700
Tensor cores are used in rendering yes.

Do you just not know how this stuff works?

>>108260704
do i have to care?

I'm just fed up of people being deliberately stupid.

>>108260715
Or in your case mentally disabled

>>108260706
Well yeah.
Nobody is playing new games with just raster.
If you're using an Nvidia card, you're definitely enabling at least DLAA, maybe DLSS if it's got 4.5 support.
You're almost certainly going to enable Ray Tracing, or Path tracing.
And that's only going to continue to be the case.

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>>108260722
whatever. i don't play slop. no need for fake frames and fake resolutions. >>108260729 slop makers and slop goymers can keep buying those gpus.

>>108260729
You don't realize how little games have raytracing or pathtracing, it's less than 10 total. And most of raytracing is just a little bit of lighting and reflections. Cyberpunk being an nvidia-propaganda game skewed people's perception a lot. Most games are still mostly raster with baked in GI.

>>108260735
You should play re4 remake, or the original re4, or resident evil village, which are probably available for like $5 each, and are not slop.

Or just get somebody to give you a free copy of requiem that they got with a graphics card purchase that's currently going on, somehow, you have friend I'm sure.

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>>108260739
SHUT IT DOWN

california just banned linux.

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>>108260744
requiring any of those 'features' already designates those games as slop. they couldn't be bothered to make the games run on current gen hardware without fake frames and fake resolutions. if you need those features to play a game on current gen hardware, it's slop. simple as that.
>>108260755
banned things are cool.

>>108260739
It's only going to get higher.

>>108260759
it will, it is the future, but not the present

>>108260758
^ cyber-criminal

*in california

>>108260755
don't worry our law requiring OS level age verification will go nationwide.
and then we'll all install Linux right after the GabeCube beta tests SteamOS for us.

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>oh shit newegg brought back that 9850x3d combo deal with the msi tomahawk time to bu-
>looks about $100 more expensive
>look inside
>FREE MCAFEE VIRUS PROTECTION FOR A YEAR :)))))))))

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>fx-9590 bros.... is it time to upgrade to intel?

>buyed a $1300 bundle from newegg
>only got RAM, and SSD and a mobo
>post-purchase clarity hits an hour later
>too late to cancel
I don't feel so good...

>>108261005
Pretty sure you can just return it straight away. You might have to pay some fees though.

>>108260145
the holes are just too big and it'll get dusty. Its very moddable and im glad i did it myself though, the frontal mesh panels have a visible protuding bent inside the rear that you can wedge open, and jam your own extra dust filter into to bend back down, its great, i did it once and never have to worry about it again, every few months i give it a good rinse under the tap and its clean.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/ps5-pro-owners-will-soon-get-an-improved-pssr-ai-upscaler-while-pc-gamers-with-rdna-2-and-3-gpus-are-still-praying-for-amd-to-add-official-support-for-fsr-4/

HE BUYED BOUGHTED

>>108260755
I'm thinking I will refuse to bend the knee and just not have a computer anymore if they intend to force me to install Windows. If they say I can't have a dumb phone anymore, I will not have a phone. This is the hill I will die on. I have some gadgets that are incapable of connecting to the internet and books to occupy myself with. It's not like I was ever going to be a functioning member of society regardless.

>>108260933
>Hiding the 14900ks
I'm sick of these cherry picked graphs

if China attacks taiwan right now, we get like 2 years of pain in hardware but at same time, it kills the AI bubble completely, specially if China seizes TSMC for themselves

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>>108261082
chill shlomo. that was a 13900k review.

>>108260929
It's like saying herpes is a free gift.

>>108261083 (me)
the point is, the AI bubble thing damage to hardware consumer space might unironically be bigger and longer lasting than China seizing Taiwan

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>>108261082
>14900ks

>>108261094
That's more like it

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bros where can I trade my ram

>>108261145
so you can shoot yourself with it?

>>108261150
erm why does it matter what im gonna shoot, you a cop or somethin

>>108261173
damage of government property is forbidden by the law.

>>108261182
what dae heck

>>108261090
Herpes and a kick in the balls.

>>108252938
Should I just wait for next generation of GPUs not to feel salty about this generations price hike?

>>108261257
Next gen is at least 18 months away

What's the best solution to the 12VHPWR question?
Just get a cablemod cable?

>>108261263
Just run whatever cable that came with your PSU.

>>108261263
it's only a problem for 5090 and it can't be solved.
Also I heard MSI PSU cables are pushing themselves out of the connector slots with time from both sides which I found funny as fuck.

I am never going to upgrade my 5900x

>>108261309
Should I upgrade to a 5900X?

>>108261316
I don't think you can find them for cheap

>>108261309
5900xt is better

>>108261261
damn, guess it's time to pick up another hobby

>>108261263
Get an atx3.1 seasonic PSU

>>108261327
5800xt is better

>>108252938
Is the 5800x a worthwile upgrade to a 5500(non-x) for £170?

>>108261371
I would wait for new x3d chips, but if they are not released, yes

>>108261374
>new x3d
This is for the old AM4, I know chips are still being made but not the new x3d
Looking at the old 5800x3d, it suddenly goes x3-4 times the price

>>108261374
I'm waiting for intel to get off their ass.

>>108261416
expect more e cores.

>>108261414
amd said earlier in the year there was a chance they'd make new x3d chips for am4 but it was an interview, not an official statement

>friend offering me his 7800x3d, am5 mobo, 32gb of ddr5, and some cooling fans for free since he recently upgraded
>but at the same time there is a cyberpower sale of a pc with a 9800x3d, 5070ti, and 32gb of ram for only 1699
I mean, if I'm going to have to buy a 5070ti/5080 anyways should I just buy the PC and tell my friend to sell his stuff instead? If I go with my friend I end up paying slightly less and probably get a better mobo/ram, but I still need to buy a better psu, a gpu, and cpu cooler. If I go with the prebuilt I pay slightly more, but get a better cpu and all that other shit without having to deal with the hassle of ordering all the individual crap and I wanted a new case anyways and I'll get extra storage.

>>108261423
>450$ msrp for 4 year old silicon
the am4 x3d chips were a no brainer when you could snatch one for sub 200$ in 2024
But dont expect prices to be low again with all the waitfags driving up demand.
Meanwhile higher clocked non x3d chips can be bought right now for sub 200$. Only a retard would pay potentially double that for a new ryzen 5000 x3d

>>108261432
Why not both? Might be good to take it all in case you fall victim to your 9800x3d dying and cyberpower won't fix it. Could get a total of 64gb of ram assuming you're okay with trying to mix two sets.
The latter isn't a bad choice though.

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>>108261423
>decade old socket, 4 years after being replaced
>might still have a top-of-the-line CPU coming up

>>108261480
and its even more nuts that my mid tier x370 board got a bios update two weeks ago

>>108261480
the designs already done, they just need to dedicate some tsmc capacity to do it

I havent heard news of new designs requiring the whole validation process or something

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My full tower has the bottom, top, and both side panels twisted from a bottom rear corner impact, they are uneven.

Should I try to use pliers or a sledgehammer to bend them back into shape before I sand and repaint it?

>>108261423
They start they are considering re-starting production of x3d chips, not making new as in new model x3d chips.

>>108261568
I wrote new chips, not new models, it could be new models or it could be old models new stock

ddr5 pricing has to get worse for amd to reconsider that. it's still alright. as long as it is not like 1000$ for 32gb dd5. i just don't see it.

Hope you fellas all built your PCs in time

>>108261584
I didn't upgrade my 2019/2020 system in 2024 because "what's the point, something better will always come next year, it runs fine".