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We Don't Bend The Knee Edition
Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models
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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide
>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows
>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo
>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://thetacursed.github.io/Anima-Style-Explorer/
>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2
>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2
>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2
>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46
>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage
>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg
>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg
>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>108257500
let's not forget the jews open sourcing LTX3 that'll be as good as Seedance 2.0, trust the plan!!
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if it's not an edit model I won't be hyped
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>>108257308
Thank you for baking this thread, anon
>>108257419
Thank you for blessing this thread, anon
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>>108258048
>complaining about nogens
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>seedance 2.0 is destroying everything
it's not
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>>108258191
Very nice restoration. specially adding full modern sky scrappers and cars for maximum REMASTERED vibes. :fire:
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>>108257819
>One such tactic would aime at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users
that's why they paid schizos to shit this place?
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You did the same in /edg/, /adt/ raider, at least change your trick
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It's /adt/ they did the %100 same with /edg/ in january
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>Training ACEStep LoRA on pure kino bangers
Listen to a few here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-eE30Vgs7U&list=OLAK5uy_miYOLDtkeEknt U87XhJ4-f4xRYuY16wOE&index=11
This is gonna be sick bros. Has ACEStep made you discover new artists? It's so fun. Discovered them during my bid to train a Kawaii metal LoRA similar to what Udio does so well.
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>>108258191
>SIGN ME IN
All nice and dandy until you get pic rel which they just started rolling out per another thread, hence the model is completely useless.
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>>108258305
>worked hard to finally make a really great model
>all of this just to make it completly useless by cucking it
why??? it's so fucking sad, I would hate being an engineer in those companies, all my work reduced to nothing because of some HR too scared to face the anti-AI twitter trannies
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>>108258300
With a LoRA it becomes Udio tier though. Only thing is out of the box, the voices are not that natural unless you use SFT. But then if you use SFT instead of Turbo then the sound quality and creativity goes down a bit.
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oh god not again, remember last january? when /adt/ got mad at /edg/ and it suddenly became 2022 with SD 1.5 gens because nobody posted in /adt/? why does /adt/ want the same fate for us?
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>>108258135
I will never understand the secret sauce behind NovelAI. it's just so easy to make stuff and it recognizes every mainstream character. the characters that it doesn't recognize, you can get pretty close with only a few reference images.
The amount of effort you have to put into local with impainting, controlnets, and further editing takes 10 times longer to get the same results of a single prompt from novel AI.
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fuck jannis haha zoopeds forever
>>108257397
>There's anything left to be hyped about?
Bro AGI is here go distract yourself generating any software or mods to software you want. Claude Code or GLM-5 whatever you want nigggaaaaa
>>108257875
>this general got suffocated by two autistic faggots
No it just needs the audio+video sora at home to come out in the summer and then this general has a purpose once again.
>>108258277
I'm just happy to see you're having fun anon. More anons need to have fun with models or try out different modalities if they're bored of their current one
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>>108258326
>to face the anti-AI twitter trannies
It was probably a call by the highest levels of command at the company (E.G. executive team) following advice by their legal team, as they have a presence in the U.S and kikes seethed enough that Netflix, Disney etc.. initiated a ton of lawsuits.
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>>108259170
>I will never understand the secret sauce behind NovelAI
The secret sauce is training a model from scratch, on every booru image you can possibly get your hands on, for literally 1000+ epochs.
The model is so overtrained it's actually a weakness. It has nearly pixel-perfect memorized specific booru images. You can prompt it with the full list of tags from some danbooru image and get the model to regurgitate almost the exact image. Very poor seed diversity.
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>>108259262
Why does everyone train on Danbooru and not scrape pixiv? you would get a far bigger variety of fetishes and art styles scraping pixiv. sure, there's garbage on pixiv, but what if you want a garbage art style.
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>>108259282
because pixiv images have 6 tags max, while danbooru images can have hundreds. it was just a massive coincidence that the most detailed image-caption pair database of all time happened to be for anime/furry porn.
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>>108258305
why did the chinks cuck out? wtf did the kikes do to threaten the chinks to submission? 2026 is really starting to look grim with censorship of ai models. Seedance 2.0 is already nurtured to shit before anyone outside preview insiders could get a taste of the model.
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>>108259305
actually they can have up to 10 tags iirc. Also that's irrelevant when you can use really good captioners for SFW and risque stuff (Gemini) and mediocre local captioners for NSFW (qwen/abliterated/joycaption)
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>wtf did the kikes do to threaten the chinks to submission?
yeah I'm also surprised, you'd think Xi Jinping had more balls to tell them to fuck off, he's not even scared of Trump, jewlywood is literally more scary than the government of the US lmao
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>>108259606
>adetailer
no lol
same way as every model ever friend
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>>108259713
and the two BasicSchedulers were just this, 0.5 for the hi-res denoise second pass obvously
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>>108259717
oh and if you want to use Flux2Scheduler, you can split the sigmas for the second pass like this to get a lower strength (SplitSigmasDenoise is a stock comfy node)
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I'll help you understand their secret sauce. It's quite simple if you've been around since early diffusion models. First, you need to understand that SD is a dogshit model, especially SD 1.5, yet people have been able to do excellent things with it. Next, you must understand that the only way NoobAI is so good on SDXL, is because the model was essentially overbaked to produce only that type of output. It's easier to see if you go back to SD 1.5, every model that you saw there was essentially just an overbaked shitmix. Because tiny models are easy to overbake. And that's the recipe behind NovelAI. First, remember the news that they bought a bunch of GPUs? What they did was perform experiments, and determined what size of dataset fits into a single SDXL-sized model when you overbake it (similar to Noob). That is, how many artists does it remember? So what they do is that they take a small model, train it like SDXL, let's call it the base (master) model. Then, based on this same base model, they take a bunch of models, train a subset of their dataset on each model, then serve an API that can instantly detect what type of model you need based on the artists you called, and if you call a mixture of models, instead of inferencing both, you inference a LoRA that is compatible with the base model, so everyone is happy, and that's how they're able to get every Danbooru artist in existence seamlessly with a smaller and less capable model. This is probably similar to what MJ does with artists under the hood. In short, there's nothing special about what they do, they've come up with nothing novel, and they simply have much more compute and serve many more models simultaneously, while taking care of that for you.
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this babble is already disproven by anima being smaller than sdxl yet still knowing just as many artists. (https://thetacursed.github.io/Anima-Style-Explorer/) being able to learn thousands of artist tags isn't a huge challenge unless you're a retarded furry who intentionally sabotages your own finetune.
they have no need to train hundreds of micro models, that shit is a complete headache for cloud inference because you need to load and unload shit constantly and also perform 'prompt scanning' to determine which models to use.
the novelai model is not special outside of their regional latent trick. there is no magic secret, they just have lots of GPUs so they can train the model longer and afford a fuckup or two. i think local just forgot what a proper finetune looks like after dealing with nothing but kekstone for over a year now.
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I don't know how true this is, but that actually makes the most sense and why even when NAI have "leaked" their models, it's still never as good as NovelAI itself. they probably know no local shit can fully replicate what they do, so they don't feel threatened by their own models leaking or people making stuff that tries to mimic their model. the answer is just resources. they have a lot of resources and smart algorithms that can detect exactly which amalgamation of models and loras best fit your prompt. and using a single model locally will just never replicate that. you'll have to do a lot more work to get the same clean and high-adherence output.
I've watched people on Pixiv show speed-runs of them impainting the shit out of their images to get them exactly the way they want them. there's just no easy way to prompt for shit you want without extra effort.
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>>108259313
Kikes didn't have to do much. Bytedance is registered and still does business in America, and if it wants to continue to operate (and not get a complete rugpull by Trump) they have to abide by American laws.
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>>108259557
4B version on the same seed
pretty similar but added green tips on her boots too lol
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i see thanks
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>>108259853
How many artists it knows varies by chosen architecture, but regardless of which they choose, it is likely something like this. We haven't seen Anima's potential yet, but say a large scale tune falls short by around 5-10k artists, they can still tune another one.
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alternate fagollage
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>>108260260
seriously. those guys are so annoying
you and I are the only real posters left
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time is flat
and endlessly
surprising
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tfw pondering
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>>108260548
give him demon horns
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>>108260644
nyo
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>>108260651
do it
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bearcat!
https://suno.com/s/imEKrWMhIRgZtk2m
https://youtu.be/72yr9Nswbhk
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I want my beef well done, anyone willing to fry it a bit more?
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Memory management seems back to normalish for me with ComfyUI 0.15.1 and AMD Adrenalin 27.2.2. --disable-smart-memory is not longer required for me to avoid maxing RAM/VRAM during VAE decode and freezing Windows. The default mode seems more prone to running models partially-unloaded though, so I might still slightly prefer --disable-smart-memory for SDXL.
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>>108261292
This
Look at this, they already know their problem but they actively and deliberately leave it like that because it's a way to push people to the cloud.
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>>108261448
Anon, Julien and Catjack already realized themselves in /ldg/cord that /adt/ schizos are impersonating them here, playing both sides.
Sorry your general failed, maybe put that energy into /adt/ instead.
Go back, please >>108242864
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>>108261665
catjak is a two-faced confrontational and constantly angry faggot. i wouldn't trust a single word he says. i do believe ani is not a part of this, it's just not in his character to shitpost like this. he doesn't like the off-topic links in the op but well, nobody does
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is there any way in forge neo to get a prompt back from an image? like you roll the gatcha, stars align and you get the perfect picture, ask the model what it thinks the prompt was? i remember there was a way back in the auto1111 days
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>>108262227
clip or booru interrogate. maybe neo removed that feature
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>he doesn't like the off-topic links in the op but well, nobody does
and yet, when people had the choice between a thread with the rentries, and a thread without, NO ONE posted gens in the thread without rentries, curious, isn't it?
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108220078
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>>108262072
come visit /sdg/
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NVIDIA + University of Michigan paper on TC-LoRa, basically a better and cheaper (fewer parameters to train) version of controlnet, it was benchmarked on Cosmos-Predict1, which is the previous version of the model anima was trained on (Cosmos-Predict2)
https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.09561
I'm daydreaming about anima so bad ToT
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Did a image of Nausicaa, honestly, it's hilarious how much ZiT btfo's actual cosplay in texture and realism.
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These are nice. what made these?
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>>108258305
Does it ever tell you exactly what tripped it, or are you left guessing? I've never used any these cloud services because of their ever-present "safety".
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>mfw when pulling a winner
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And this is why /adt/ is dead, worst anime general ever.
->LARP as sfw anime, only gen 1girl SDXL goonbait.
->LARP as artistic, FAIL at basics.
->LARP as tech general, only use SDXL
Look at this loser >>108243092. Pretentious slopper tried getting fancy but didn't notice, too busy cooming to a minor in underwear, he fucked up step one: Teenage anime girls are 6:1 head to body, failed at that simple task.
I'm phonposting but this trash general and talentless genner don't deserve more.
Pic related: Left is his deformed slop. Middle is official art with correct 6:1 proportions. Right is what I fixed on my fucking phone.
DO NOT VISIT /adt/ WORST ANIME GENERAL EVER EXISTED
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You're such a faggot kek
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Worse yet, I prompted for "Ninja" and only ever got generic soldiers.
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Having fun testing out the artist knowledge of anima while waiting for specific artist loras to be ported. It does make me sad that you can't apparently blend styles using prompt weighting like you could with prior CLIP based models
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>>108264083
Even with their weird @artist prompting method?
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Groovy, this pleases me greatly. I just wish it recognised zerogravitas
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>>108264143
seems pretty close non cherry picked output
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>>108264269
Ah prompt scheduling is a good idea, I will give that a go.
>>108264298
Not quite it I'm afraid, it's missing a lot of stylistic elements that characterise their art. I'm just gonna screw around with other styles while waiting for a lora.
Incidentally does anyone know the prompt that ThetaCursed is using for their Style Explorer image? It's bugging me because some artists names produce wildly different styles compared to what's in the gallery so I'm wondering if my prompt-fu is missing something.
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>some artists names produce wildly different styles compared to what's in the gallery
Yeah that one really sucks. https://tagexplorer.github.io/#/artists is much better IMO and has both Anima and Illustrious.
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Klein coomshot lora came out great
did both 9B and 4B versions, the results are actually very similar if you compare them on the same seed running on the Distilled models
this is on 9B Distilled, anyways:
https://files.catbox.moe/afz0bn.png
ZIB / ZIT cannot do that kind of fine detail up close with a gun to its head
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>>108264580
>goat ZiT
turbo may as well be just as slopped while base isnt
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the rigidity of turbo makes it worthless unless you cant run base
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>>108264852
>using base on the begining of denoising and turbo to clean this shit up
Anyone actually tried this?
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what are your settings?
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Very happy with my ComfyUI Doctor custom_node!
Now I OOM with mindfulness and and emotional support from a chatbot :^)
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>>108265200
can you post your settings?
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Fresh when ready
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