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Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models
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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide
>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows
>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo
>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2
>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2
>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2
>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46
>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage
>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg
>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg
>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>108265428
>what is the new meta?
wait for anima :3
API will never beat local because API isn't free (infinite re-iteration) and doesn't do porn
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Local is only free if you don't value your time. With API models I can output hundreds of maximum-quality images in a fraction of the time it would take for a local model thanks to specialized API hardware. The profit I make from these outputs easily covers the API 'fees' and then some. You can sit around fumbling with flux for five hours while I iterate in seconds at 4k.
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>>108265428
>what is the new meta?
See: >>108265482
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>>108264821
>yet another 4chinner who doesn't know what professionally shot well-lit porn looks like
please, tell me all about how $1000 smartphone cameras in 2026 produce jpeg artifact ridden images that look at least 15 to 20 years older, anon
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>>108265269
I'm still waiting.>>108265322
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>>108265535
here you go.
https://files.catbox.moe/ezxlvw.png
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>>108265551
"realistic" doesn't cover looking as if reality. realistic also describes 3dpd. that gen looks realistic but as if its a highly edited and photoshopped image to the point of it no longer looking authentic.
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>>108265450
anon I have a serious question for you, why do fags portray men as... this? like they don't look like your regular dude at all, everytime I see this kind of picture I know it's a faggot that's enjoying it and not a woman lol
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>>108265552
I mean this is the same lora lol
https://files.catbox.moe/5139jf.png
It's trained both on professional likely post-processed-in-the-first-place photos that actually do look like the blonde lady one and amateur photos that actually do look like this Asian chick one. The prompts for both of these images specified what they should look like.
Point being the plastic skin criticism makes no sense any way you cut it
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>>108265537
I don't use cloud anything. Just trying to help the guy out while I wait for Qwen 3.5 35B A3B to stop thinking in a circle and fucking output something.
It thinks like an air-headed bimbo with a gun to her head. Nervous and retarded.
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>>108265574
>highly edited and photoshopped image
you mean like uh, a large amount of actual promo / sample photos for professional porn content? Your baseline assumption that I would refuse to train on anything that looked like the photographer themselves did any editing to begin with is arbitrary
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>>108265583
>Point being the plastic skin criticism makes no sense any way you cut it
I believe you simply have a lower standard for realism.
>>108265606
If you enjoy the highly edited look don't let anon stop you. But it looks fake, there's no way around that.
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>>108265578
Why wouldn't we? It's for the same reason straggots portray women the same way with colossal boobs and hips kek
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>>108265583
not that anon but your skin is not that bad. I think people tend to get to autistic with the skin texture debate like its the end all be all with photorealistic gens. correct Anatomy logic, solid background environments, correction body proportions and ratios and prompt adherence matter more to me than just raw skin texture.
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>>108265618
IDK anon, to me it just sounds like you think what this guy said basically (which is for sure a thing, there's so much of that Muh Anachronistically Shitty Smartphone stuff on CivitAI:
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>>108265604
use a vlm image captioner and get the prompt yourself anon. This is the original image i used to caption the prompt from.
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>>108265656
>there's so much of that Muh Anachronistically Shitty Smartphone stuff on CivitAI:
where? 90% of the images of civ are jeetslop. looking at the front page right now and every gen thats not anime is some clean bokeh'd to hell "professional" styled photo.
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>>108265638
not always, obviously we have their preferences for bimbos, but we can also like other body tyles, it looks like faggots always have one body type for men, it's way less diverse than straights, oh well, you do you I guess lul
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>>108265738
>it looks like faggots always have one body type for men
Not really, these kinds are very much niche, the most popular stuff is regular guys with regular toned/slightly muscular bodies, the big tiddy bara stuff isn't mainstream
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>>108265778
well yes, its mostly gay men that are into it but not all much less most gay men, you probably filter/don't realize the more normal stuff and only remembers the stuff that is more shocking/distinctive
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>>108264528
>ZIB / ZIT cannot do that kind of fine detail up close with a gun to its head
what do you think of this? your prompt with base no loras. disregard the fact that it doesnt know "cum" obviously. but you can get around that by describing it as a milky semi white substance.
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>>108265753
I would be surprised if it turns out to be better than Klein for editing.
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>>Maintain Thread Quality
>https://rentry.org/debo
>https://rentry.org/animanon
what's up with these? they have nothing to do with diffusion
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>>108265967
when you internalize that over 50% of women (no seriously it's like 53% or something) have some form of non-consent/rape fetish their politics make complete and total sense. The failure of the west is that they are more interested in being raped by browns because most white men became s@ygoys
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>>108265987
Because Base was kinda a dud? It's clear Turbo was some lightning in the bottle distill that worked exceptionally well but they clearly have no great base model to finetune edit model from.
>>108265996
>it has to, and that's probably why they're taking their time, maybe they didn't expect Klein to be so good, god I love competition, without that, they would only do the minimum to please us
The cynic in me thinks the opposite. It's not working well, and they are throwing bunch of shit at the wall to see what sticks. It's taking forever without any results.
Now Z-Edit can turn out great, I think that's possible. It's just that I would probably bet on the opposite if I have to.
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>>108266061
isn't this the only truthful one? why wasn't it included?
https://rentry.org/ranfaggot
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>>108266057
>The cynic in me thinks the opposite. It's not working well, and they are throwing bunch of shit at the wall to see what sticks.
the more the time passes, the more it makes me think that z-image turbo was just pure luck and they're unable to reproduce this magic again, what a shame
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>>108266133
lol imagine thinking anything from tongyi lab which has 200 employees is just luck. You're probably right in the sense that Z image was never meant to be a serious project and just a small side project while Qwen is their main project
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>>108266138
You both think >>108264528 looks better than >>108265832 ?
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>ZiB is a dud that doesnt look good
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z turbo was just people getting excited over turbo distillation, something they never had to interact with previously. the same shit existed for sdxl but nobody cared because 99% of people could run sdxl fine at reasonable speeds without it. everyone thought z-turbo was some insane magic at first, but over time it became clear that it had many flaws preventing it from taking over the scene. people thought z-base would address those and become an amazing base model for finetuning but instead of just releasing it the same day they baited and hyped for months until it released dead-on-arrival.
qwen is better anyway
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>>108266218
>no other models could do that before!
at the same fidelity? no they cant
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>>108266314
>This is Flux 1 vae which makes it even more impressive.
I don't see how flux 2 vae looks better, when used on Klein it's kinda shit on details and looks melted, but maybe it's the fault of the klein model itself and not the vae so Idk
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>>108266358
>>zero cases with auto, it's forks and anistudio
also, I did get a problem with auto, I would get random prompts popping up in my cmd (and of course it was loli / child stuff0, they didnt execute because they complained they couldn't find a image file (as if it was trying to do inpainting/img2img) so theres that
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>>108266294
what's special with your image, her face is kinda plastic
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>>108266377
You can pick and load an image + vae encode + vae decode + save image and compare results if you want to test the vae itself.
You are allowed to not like klein but flux 2 vae is an improvement over its predecessor.
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>>108266453
nano banana 2 is worse than nano banana pro (which is fine since NB2 is based on the flash version of gemini 3.1), when we'll get nano banana 2 pro it's gonna be insane, people are not ready for the mog
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>>108266449
>you still have a lot of compression issues
Actually, the output of Klein Edit 9B is super clean. So clean in fact that the edited areas stand out when you fuck with the gamma or saturation. There are zero artifacts.
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>>108266479
bullshit, ask it to add a second character to your first image and the image starts to change (and it's fine to not pretend it's perfect, actually none of the edit models can do it perfectly, even api models)
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>>108266485
>when will local be as good as seedance and grok imagine
soon, trust the chosen people goyim
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>>108266314
its not perfect for sure (what model is really) but its the best for non hardcore photography and non anime illustrations imho
>>108266393
do you see how your output has the ZiT sameface?
>her face is kinda plastic
im going off anon doing highly edited professional photography gens. thats what they look like
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>>108266492
no, thats falls under "sensitive" but that won't work as a tag, to achieve it you prompt nude but with the bits (pussy, penis, testicles, anus, etc) in the negatives, if it just make nulls then you will have to get creative with a prompt for the pose but it should work just with the negatives
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>>108266552
>copium
its not tho >>108265832
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>>108266560
I thought about negatives but wanted to ask if there is a more straightforward way.
Oh well, nevertheless.
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>>108266582
these are also z base
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>>108266560
Anima has a range of "safety" tags: safe, sensitive, nsfw, explicit. Sensitive does work and is probably what you want.
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have a good weekend anons
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Has ComfyOrg considered proposing uncensored SaaS to their API Partners? I am sure it would be a massive hit, and it could be offered exclusively through ComfyCloud. Something around the size of Qwen Image but fully uncensored and trained on both anime and realism would be well worth the subscription cost, especially if it runs on lightning-fast enterprise hardware
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Local bros, is there a prompt manager for ComfyUI like Silly Tavern has? Or something that color codes the clip text encoder? With these novel style models like Z image and Anima that need bloated prompts, I want better visual organization. Like green for {{char}}, yellow for clothes, red for actions, purple for background white for quality tags. Makes it way easier to see what's what in the prompt.
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>>108266773
which company would want to have anything to do with something that can generate nude children and/or deepfakes? lol, why do you think those AI labs are all about the safety of the models they serve/release? the last thing anyone wants to touch is nsfw, its a PR disaster
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>>108266855
Auto1111 forks have something similar but there's nothing for Comfy like it AFAIK. I wish.
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>>108265832
IDK why you didn't do it at the same res but e.g. this is your chicks eye at 100% zoom, it's noticeably blurrier
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>>108266208
>qwen is better anyway
this. z base is just too janky of model and the faces prodouced by z turbo feel generic and samey after multiple rounds of gens. I wish the community gave qwen more of a chance with developing lora, finetunes and shitmixes for it.
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>>108266941
Qwen is a great model but the VAE is so fucking ass dude
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>>108266863
>notice how they went radio silent
He regularly responds to discussions on the hf.
>full model was never finished?
It has been barely a month. Not that a fudding lowcow troon like you would have any clue how long it would take to finish a proper finetune. Actually working on and developing something worthwhile are completely foreign concepts to you, you just know being the retarded thread schizo.
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>>108266908
Asked Opus and he told me it's not possible, only concatenating nodes. How weird that there isn't an option like WordPad or Obsidian that lets me format text size and color without messing with CLIP
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>>108266921
thats fair i see what you mean. i still think zib gets closer at looking like the style however. the klein outputs just look too synthetic to me even in that professional photographic style.
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is that with or without a lora
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>>108266984
https://civitai.com/models/2404753/authenticskin?modelVersionId=270381 4
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>>108267045
How good is Qwen if it needs an authentic skin LoRA?
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>>108267045
hmmm
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Pretty happy with how Anima apes 3D renders
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conflicting messages here
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Unkempt office ladies with unironed shirts
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>>108267010
Rare to see genuine androphilic homosexuality on 4chan, usually it's gynephilic gay stuff like femboys. I wish most homos were still like that
>>108267181
threadpost songs peaked with "It's Jeetscript"
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Reminds me of Cruelty Squad
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https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/discussions/12699
Babe, babe wake up! ComfyAnonymous implemented dynamic VRAM, a massive memory optimization for ComfyUI!
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>>108267085
its not critical. to be honestly, that skin lora isn't even necessary but useful if your using low step loras. I'm still trying to experiment with settings.
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>>108267391
>What you should notice:
Lower RAM usage.
Faster workflow execution on memory constrained hardware.
No more vram OOMs because weights were not offloaded enough.
Faster initial model Load.
Faster lora applying.
Run models larger than your RAM without paging.
Higher vram usage is normal due to using vram more effectively.
Neat! Thanks Comfy!
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>>108267326
https://github.com/light-and-ray/Minimalistic-Comfy-Wrapper-WebUI
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>>108267391
>take a look at the code
>the main functionality is just a few hundred lines total
It surprises me that there's still so much low hanging fruit. You would think something like this would have been figured out years ago, but I guess not. Like why is this not some default pytorch thing.
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Okay so I havent used sd in over a year, think a lots changed. I never got into comfy, only a1111. What are the benefits/downsides of each nowadays?
I was thinking this was a good time to learn comfy but a1111 was pretty straight forward.
Can both do video gens as good as eachother? I have a beast PC now compared to before.
Also for loras, anything changed when making them?
also theres 2 threads now idk if i should be posting here or sdg..........
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>>108267603
>What are the benefits/downsides of each nowadays?
auto is dead so everyone uses the neoforge fork now and comfy is faster inference but is also bloated spyware that tries to force you into saas. neoforge vidgen is a joke, use wan2gp for vidgen if you want a gradio interface and in comfy you will just memory leak until oom if you don't have the unload nodes. lora training is essentially the same. most trainers are up to date with the latest crap
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>>108267603
Step 1: delete A1111 and any other malware
Step 2: update your drivers to match this version >>108267391 and download Comfy_portable
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>>108267603
Download ComfyUI. When you do, a popup should appear asking you to sign in and add credits. Add about $100 worth, and then check out the API Nodes https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/partner-nodes/overview
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>>108267603
forge neo + wan2gp is the way to go.
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>>108267035
ZIT (with ZIM LoRA).
>>108267391
Pulling has become traumatizing with Comfy (I don't do it very often anymore), but it might be time to bite the bullet for this update... maybe.
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>>108267391
okay well I can use flux2 withou the low-vram, disable pinned memory stuff but it's using more sys ram now, very nearly topped out
the real test is ltx2 which didn't work at all, in fact just trying to run it caused blue screens on a fresh clean install
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>Pulling has become traumatizing with Comfy (I don't do it very often anymore), but it might be time to bite the bullet for this update... maybe.
significantly less vram and gpu usage with barely a dent in speed
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>>108267897
anything complicated exposes the nipples.
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>>108267928
arse too fat. would not.
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>>108268122
Rude. It's not my fault makerworld's search engine is garbage and the first result for "centimeter ruler" is some football kraut's slop
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>>108268376
:)
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your lost fag.
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>>108268387
did someone say news?
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>>108267391
Looking forward to that AMD support:
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/comfy-aimdo/pull/2
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qwen image 2512.
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you could use this z image base model but honestly i don't like the results with z image base and turbo models.
https://civitai.com/models/2394791?modelVersionId=2706809
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thanks for these replies, does comfy use wang2p or is that something thats only on neof?
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repost of that for those unaware:
https://vocaroo.com/1eSAdRnwC4oD
lyrics (has to be this cause pastebin flags it as innappropriate kek):
https://pastes.io/its-jeetsc
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kawaii desu ne
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