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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY
>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8
>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 9950X3D
*Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms. New BIOS dropped.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount icky)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67
TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950
>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x64GB (high-end)
>STORAGE
[Keep NVME/SSD firmware updated]
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/
HDD prices also increasing YMMV
>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
Native/High-end: 5090
>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-har dware-busters/
>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
Consider Noctua/Akasa silicone pins instead of screws for case use
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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!
>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware -- industry is screwed until RAM/SSD/HDD catches up ;_;
>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lo west-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory- of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-202 6-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-trac king
>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDca SpZRB6Xt6JWkc/
>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYH Aiom-FaDo/
>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, only lists a few AM5 boards but actively updated: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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>AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT
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>NVIDIA Geforce RTX 5070 Ti
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>Monitor Hunter doc
>Asus XG27ACS
>'Best in Class 27” model'
What makes this "best in class"? The linked reviews don't seem all that positive.
OLED seems like a hassle so I'm wanting to go with IPS, just need 1440p and at least 144hz, but am willing to pay more for better quality.
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>>108279770
Prolly cuz monitor ads haven't changed in more than two decades.
It's uncanny how they haven't changed much if at all. Every monitor/tv ad is just
>put vaseline/lower gamma in the rival monitor
>your monitor you want to sell is just stock w/ normal settings
There, that is the entire monitor ad's research. They don't need to put shit like tool makers: RPM, quieter, titanium/unobtanium FORGED tools. Real leather seats, cup holders and sockets for workfags like car makers.
>More vaseline, less power in rival tv. Done
No difference with TV Seller's ads from the 80s just:
>TRUE™ REAL ̶B̶L̶A̶C̶K̶S̶ NIGGERS FROM THE HOOD:Our monitors
>FAKE BUSTAS WHO LISTEN TO WHITE GIRL'S MUSIC:Rival's monitors
Almost every monitor has 1ms response times/different viewing modes/triple gaming modes/whatever with such fucking minuscule differences that only a Mantis Shrimp would notice.
The only thing that matters is what kind of panel you want, the size and resolution. Anything else is how much you are willing to pay The Cuck Markup over other brands. Really, I wish at least these cocksuckers bleeding people dry would at least offer cheap replacement parts like tool makers do for power tools OR state the kind of components inside to see where they are cheapening out.
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>>108280853
If you want to play the contrarian bullshit on one of the most commonly reviewed & recommended 1440p gaming monitor, do that on your own time.
XG27ACS or the XG27ACG are good purchases when you get it on sale.
I don't own any ASUS monitor or ROG components btw.
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>>5060ti 16gb for $530
just get a 9070 with a bios flash at this point
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>DLSS 4.5 performance mode makes any 50 series card 4k capable.
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>>108280946
it is but hes retarded and fucked up buying one so he also needs to fuck up over anons too
>>108280961
clean up and repaste
or just make a better curve, jet engine at 70c? youre doing it wrong
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>>108280946
No not unless you're maxing out settings which will kill your performance anyway. I haven't come across any game personally which requires even 10GB vram even at 4K when I target 60 fps which means either using DLSS or turning settings down which in turn lowers vram anyway. Just because a card has a lot of vram doesn't mean it can use it aside from caching, but all GPUs do that and it doesnt affect performance or visuals. For example a 5060 ti 16gb will be running sub 30 fps by the time you max out settings and enable shit like path tracing which will use up a lot of vram at 4K. But who's going to do that? Nobody. 12GB is fine for the foreseeable future. Consoles only have that much available for games and games are built around console specs.
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>>108280692
>>Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
>-Used: 2080, 2080ti
>*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
>Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
>-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
>4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
>Native/High-end: 5090
State the resolution and expected fps for each of these tiers and cards
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>>108280815
wow
none broke off
they are still in one piece congratulations
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>>108281019
putting the entire site behind a paywall is crazy
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pffff, what do they offer compared to the hundreds of youtubefags who already put all their tests/benchmarks online for free?
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>>108281029
People don't buy new TVs or monitors as they regularly listen to a podcast series, a RTINGS sub is worthless.
A pay-per-content/comparison would've been more sensible, alongside a subscription option if they want to push that crap.
The best purchasing advice is to wait for the first major discounts when you're buying a new TV or monitor, because you'll know the critical hardware flaws & after service issues by that time.
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how did people do cable management on the IDE days? These cables are fucking huge
also why does it have to be a daisy chain? wouldnt that reduce performance if two devices on the same daisy chain are working at the same time? since they're using the same data cable
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thank you
i managed to unstuck the stuck ones
these plastic things are always scary, i wish they just used fucking screws instead of something so fragile!
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>actual RX 6070 XT
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https://www.rtings.com/company/revamping-our-membership-program
RIP RTINGs.
You can still access their recommendations and each reviews still has writeups of comparable models shown but all of the objective data/test results are now paywalled. Sad to me as their MPRT and text clarity zoom closeups of monitor subpixel structure/coating were quite useful. I think they spread themselves too thin away from TVs/Monitors where their methodology approach made and user base was attentive. They didn't need to apply it to mattresses, toasters, and shoes. This is massively bloating their costs and now they have to scramble to recoup the difference.
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ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG ($750)
Ryzen 7 9850X3D ($400)
Kingston FURY Beast 32GB DDR5 CL36 ($100)
WD_BLACK SN8100 4TB ($450)
MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX ($180)
be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 850W ($90)
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 280 ($85)
Fractal Design Meshify 3 Black Solid ($120)
Total - $2,175
I've been collecting the parts for a few months.
Would this have been a good deal price wise for this build?
I tried to never pay over what the MSRP of a part was.
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just look at it
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>>108281116
Arctic has an official US eBay account that sells B-Stock (refurbished) AIOs at a steep discount.
These AIOs are mostly returned because of case fitment issues and have the same 6 year warranty.
A lot of people end up with brand new AIOs.
https://www.ebay.com/str/arcticofficialstoreusa/Refurbished-Offers/_i. html
Not a big change to your total system cost though.
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RTX 2080 = 35
RTX 2080 Ti = 42
RTX 3080 = 55
RTX 3080 T = i65
RTX 4070 = 60
Arc B580 = 58
RX 9060 XT = 62
RX 9070 = 70
RX 9070 XT = 72
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB = 68
RTX 5070 = 72
RTX 5070 Ti = 85
RTX 5090 = 120
I asked a computer to do it.
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>>108281141
Funny enough, I'm actually planning to return that AIO. It's so obnoxiously loud. I got at be quiet! PURE LOOP 3 280mm. For the same price.
I know that the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro has a thicker radiator and in theory can cool better, but the be quiet! PURE LOOP 3 has faster fans, and those faster fans run much, much quieter. So the cooling actually evens out to be the same, if not better for the be quiet! PURE LOOP 3.
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Just go open loop.
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>>108281186
most people also use w*ndows and are npcs. gtfo normalfag.
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>Mine is running between 800~900 RPM most of the time.
What's your CPU?
I have a AMD 9850X3D, and I under volted / over clocked it, and while idle it's at about 42C. Under 90% load it's at 80C, but the fans are just so loud at 100%.
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>>108281216
You keep the pump speed constant at around 2000~2200 RPM (the lower the quieter), and my CPU only hits above 80°C under stress test loads.
That 9850X3D can easily handle 80°C loads; its stock thermal throttle starts at 95°C.
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LF3 (Pro) is a pretty mediocre AIO for the 9800X3D, temps on a 9850X3D will be worse.
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only for cases that can only fit 90mm and for CPU's with equal or less than 6 cores.
I'm surprised it's so cheap considering it has a solid contact, but the reviews on it are terrible for good reason.
I have the Thermalright Assassin X 90 SE V2 which is a bit cheaper and it works well with my 12100f, I could simulate water physics on it over night and it would never go above 50% fan speed while it runs at 70C (but the 12100f is a power efficiency champ, only beaten by the 8500g).
But I think the fans are too quiet, I cannot tell if the simulation is running and I have 16gb of ram and as more water gets added, more ram is utilized... So I generally need to increase the fans up to 60 or 70% so I could hear it from my bed.
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I assume rtings is eventually shutting down operations because who subs to a review site. can you imagine doing that yourself? You want to buy a TV once in 5-10 years and a site might have a relevant review for it if you pay 15 money for the access. It doesnt seem plausible.
The review sites function is to provide a baseline truth on the internet. You have everyone refer to it, and then make decisions based on it becaue everyone agrees this is true. A paywall means it loses that function, something else becomes the truth since a freely available source is going to be referred 100x more often.
Internet may not function in AI era but paywalls that have this hump to engage wont function either. Maybe this is going to lead to some generic sub servce where your google acc has credits that are drained per article of whatever.
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>It was revealed in a recent leak that the next-gen AMD Zen 6 Ryzen CPUs would be delayed until 2027, and it has now emerged, that the upcoming Intel "Nova Lake-S" Core Ultra Series 4 CPUs may be joining AMD for an early 2027 launch, when previous reports placed the launch in late 2026. The news comes by way of ubiquitous leakers, HXL on X and Golden Pig Upgrade on Weibo, who say that a CES 2027 launch seems likely for both new CPU generations.
It sucks total balls that nvidia and AMD will blueball and say wait until 2028 for GPUs
CES 2027 could have been the craziest most hype show ever
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>>108281575
Their argument is dumb af "AI is inaccurate us and reddit is full of lying corpo shills! We believe in the truth to help consumers! That's why we are removing all our vetted data now pay us you faggots"
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I really don't understand why they couldn't leverage their YT channel more for reviews as an ad-revenue source *(works for FOMO, HDTVTest, and HUBTim) and would make AI-scraping a bit more difficult. The morons that would believe AI summaries/reviews were never going to be part of their audience. I continue to believe they wanted to become ConsumerReports 2.0 and have overexpanded the scope of their reviews to the point that now they are financially in trouble. Should have just stuck to TVs/Monitors
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>>108281769
amdrone delusion is strong they think 1-2% of the market dictates the entire market
nevermind AMD shipping literally 10 times less cards than nvidia and only releasing 2 GPUs for this entire generation
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https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2026-2-24-amd-and-meta- announce-expanded-strategic-partner sh.html
amd gpu are far from dead, it's just that vram has become too expensive to realistically offer high vram cards to consumers, thanks to the nature of asian culture tending toward (in the West) illegal monopolies.
The fruit of all outsourcing and importation (offshoring of all kinds) is that regulation locally operates as a gift to the foreign nation, because they don't have such expenses.
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HDD prices (non china shit) are getting ridiculous here in Ireland. I just bought a box of ten seagate baracudas 500GB 7200 64MB 6G/Bs to populate a RAID because the prices for 2TBs are fucking nuts now and the used stuff is fucking awful and the only seller I found who would sell me six new 2TBs wanted what would be nearly a 1000 fucking dollirinos at todays exchange rate. If I buy from the UK or US there are massive shipping costs. What the fuck happened? Don't mentionn china been there done that and that crap is worthless. Did some factiry blow up or something? I needed them to all match so mixing drives was not a runner.
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>>108281880
sup
so like you may be wondering "how did I wake up incarcerated?"
And like most people, only you can answer this question. We can look back at your files. Maybe you were a doctor who got a little to grabby with the pills. Or maybe you had sex with your chihuahua. Lord only knows the sick shit that got you in this position. All we know is you deserve it and pretty much that's the last time I'm going to talk with you, goodbye.
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>>108278796
I just won't play shit games that put 0 effort into lighting and want Nvidia to do all the handholding for them even though I have a 5080. Same as I won't play any UE5 game that uses lumen or nanite. Don't reward lazy kike developers.
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>>108281822
They're dead. Their current cards are even behind intel's battlemage in hardware support which is frankly embarrassing
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>>108278796
This is a common misconception. When you design a scene, it's designed around a renderer. This means if you just throw it at another renderer, it's not a fair comparison. You can take a scene that works in povray and then bring it into cycles and it will be all messed up.
That's what you're seeing.
Is rasterization worse or better? I think it's a side show because if you look at her nose and hands they look really creepy and if I saw that in real life I would literally run as fast as my fat ass could take me.
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>>108282042
>nyone who isn't on Linux is ... I won't say stupid, but really questionable.
if you have one onlined bucket of shit and another onlined bucket of shit which is the best bucket of shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmq9P-8FiM
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Right now there is a prebuilt at my walmart with a 5070ti, 9800x3d, 32gb of ddr5, and a 2tb NVME for $1800. Right now my current setup is a 3700x and 5700xt with ddr4 ram.
Is there any way I could upgrade my PC to the same level as this prebuilt and spend less money without having to snipe sales or is this the best deal I'm going to get? I should mention 1 of my case fans died and I'm using a stock cpu cooler, so I'd need to buy those as well.
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>>108282065
>You might have been able to get a 5080 FE drop in the US
Like on sale or something. That's a what? 1200$ MSRP card?
>dropped the SSD to a Gen 4.0 drive (same 4 TB capacity).
The prices have always been within like 100$ of each other.
>A better DDR5 memory as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't an X3D CPU make that pretty pointless? Pretty much all DDR5 is the same, or so I thought.
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a mi50 32gb goes for <$500. Yes, it's not for games, but who does that anymore? It's all about the LLM's. gaming = atari
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Spent the weekend tuning my RAM, eventually settled on these for now, there is probably a little more I can squeeze out but I'm tired of running stress tests for now. I need to tune tRFC/tREFI, and tune down voltages still, but I'm waiting on some fans and a bracket to hopefully get the temps down. In stress tests my RAM gets to 68C and my CPU's CCD can get to like 98C (furmark + ycruncher-NTT).