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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.
no fun allowed Edition
>News
Google to rollout HARD CAPS for API keys: https://xcancel.com/OfficialLoganK/status/2028842571934670988#m
Anthropic BLACKLISTED by US Govt: https://www.npr.org/2026/02/27/nx-s1-5729118/
Google Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecations
Google releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-model s/gemini-3-1-pro/
Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
Alibaba Cloud releases Qwen 3.5: qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.5
Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html
Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html
>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_
>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html
>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai
>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor
>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
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When claude dies, this hobby will get real dark. I don't even think roleplay will do anything for me anymore. i STILL miss OG claude. when antropic first dropped it. the killing of prefill will be too much to handle.
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>>108289559
>When claude dies, this hobby will get real dark. I don't even think roleplay will do anything for me anymore.
its arguably already dead now that prefill is done for, though i dont think clajde is the best model for rp right now either (that title goes to gemmy 3.1)
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>>108289559
If V4 doesn't save us I'll probably leave too. Will certainly spend less money on this crap because all the models suck in their own way. Back when I was new I would put up with so much slop but these days I'm fed up. I don't see how the government can use these models to select missile targets when some of them can't even remember to follow your "don't write for user" instructions. Fucking clown world.
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pedofags need to leave this hobby immediately. its so fucking obvious when they complain about "not using claude because no prefill" reducing a model to its ability to have prefill is crazy, claude literally only refuse cunny, it allows everything else. they are fucking parasites trying to blend in with the rest of us
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I want to make a hunters becomes the hunted card. You are with a bunch of good friends in a remote vacation home and a gang of psycho killers invade the place and start killing your friends one by one till you are left with 2 waifu characters in a save room. The plot twist is the protagonist is really good at killing himself but he also really likes the girls. So he has to either pretend to greatly struggle killing or kill the invaders in secret.
The problem is the fucking knowledge leaks. The waifu characters shall get sick of the protagonist if they find out, it's basically the game over condition. But it's impossible to do because the AI keeps leaking.
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Hey folks um I like accidentally jailbroke gemini like just pasting a joke prompt and uh now I'm worried they'll investigate and see my ip address was the same on my real various gooooogle accounts.
Any idea if I they'll hit me with a b&hammer?
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>>108289682
I have no rebuttal.
I consneed..
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>>108289794
jailbreaks will never stop, imo. I accidentally jailbroke gemini today. I wasn't aware that they don't have a mature view towards the discovery of ai vulnerabilities, and couch it like it's hacking or whatever. I started a thread but if the google gemini guy runs his scripts at home, he's ignoring my thread:
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>>108289790
Grok is pretty good! And I get why people like it so much. But I think Claude is best so far for me imo, it handles storytelling and narrative creatively and in a solid structure for long term rp (especially claude opus 4.6, that model is pretty excellent) ^w^
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What's a good model for RP gooning to try and learn this stuff? Local, 32GB VRAM and 64GB memory, 9800x3d. I set up LMStudio and SillyTavern with a character card and all that stuff but picking a model is the hardest part so far. I tried gemma3-27b-it-vl-glm-4.7, but it's way too conversational and chatty. Should I try the "uncensored" new Qwen3.5?
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That's still not true AFAIK, you can set quotas through a workaround with cloud pub/sub topics and a cloud fun function but it's not entirely reliable, the default budget options only send you alerts that are usually delayed anyway.
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>>108289877
>banning people at the fucking IP level
would they really do something so cruel? imagine banning a paying customer. OpenAI did this, but it was only superficial, and you could make another account with another email using the same credit card that had your name on it.
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cloud run function* fuck my life
>>108289905
check /lmg/ for that, we use API models here for the most part. Gemma 3 is one of the best for that size range though, but you could also try GLM 4.7 Flash, Cydonia 22B, or one of the smaller Qwen 3.5 models.
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>>108289932
Well it seems my question is more for /lmg/ so I will go there.
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Sorry if my post was not in the right thread, I assumed any kind of AI chatbot question would be fit.
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>>108289620
You. Can. Still. Fuck. Children.
Claude with an 'Okie Dokey:' prefill alone was better than no prefill Claude.
It HELPS get by censorship, but it's by no means necessary.
Losing the prefill means you can no longer write a short per-character template to help maintain their personality.
Losing the prefill means you can't do a single thing to meaningfully mess with it's positivity bias.
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I haven't used Claude in a bit, is conversation length unlimited now? I have this ongoing story over the past week or so and at some point it did a "summarizing conversation to reduce size" step and then we kept going for a long time. But then at some point yesterday it gave me a "conversation limit reached" message and I got bummed out. Out of curiosity I tried again some time later and all of a sudden it continued the conversation no problem. Idk what happened there.
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>>108289620
I haven’t had it refuse cunny without a prefill even once, despite using an incredibly light preset. I think most of you are just aah aah mistress NIGGERSs, you can’t figure out how to do fucking anything unless someone explains it in excessive detail. Every single “ummmmm, ermmmmmmmmmm, ahhhhhhhhh, X model can’t do this” post is a desperate cry for someone to help you because you don’t know how to do it and are hoping someone holds your hand.
Die.
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OpenAI removing DeepSeek from it's free (10$) model section has destroyed me.
No idea what to do. I should've used it more.
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Xanthea is the new transfer student from Themyscira. She has never seen a man before and doesn't understand the funny feelings she has when she sees (You).
Made for MalePOV, obviously.
7 openings.
1. Xanthea's first day at school in man's world.
2. You're forced to join the MMA club and Xanthea is your first sparring partner.
3. Xanthea clumsily attempts to seduce you.
4. Going on a date with Xanthea.
5. Sexo. (Also, Xanthea learns that penises exist).
6. Going to prom with Xanthea.
7. Xanthea takes you to Themyscira to meet her family.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/xanthea-a9d3781a24de
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https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>108290064
When you spent 10$ you used to be to able to use DeepSeek almost infinitely, it was hard to hit the daily limit
Now it's not listed anymore. I am very sure I remember the DeepSeek 0528 model I used being listed as (free)
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>>108290084
Thank you, how do I check what's remaining? Kind of new to this.
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Yes, and the free models kind of suck.
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actually you can check with a curl to https://api.deepseek.com/user/balance, maybe that anon didn't realize
>"topped_up_balance":"38.72"
enjoy!
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>>108290094
Trapped in this bulge
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>>108290094
Give up on proxies, Anon. That shit's dead.
I kinda miss Jew. I never really appreciated getting 6 months of as much Opussy as I wanted for a mere $10. I know he's still around but lmfao who the fuck is paying $30/month for a proxy that doesn't even have Sonnet most of the time?
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>>108290177
I am too new to get this working properly anyway
Gonna fidget with things for an hour before calling it a night I think
>>108290195
Very true
I was always scared to touch the 10$ I had because I wasn't sure if it would mess up my free model usage
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>>108290227
It's okay, I don't want to turn the thread into tech support for someone silly.
Not using a website, just using the OpenRouter option in both chat and text completion, and used the key that was shown.
Anyway, I hope you all have a great night.
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Here they are.
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>>108290234
Oh, it's not an OpenRouter key it's for Deepseek itself. Just use the built in option for Deepseek in SillyTavern next time, or use https://api.deepseek.com/v1 for an OpenAI compatible endpoint. Have a good night anon!
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member all the dooming in /aicg/ over the microsoft lawsuit against drago and khanon and how it was going to be the death of the hobby? i member
>b-but the hobby did die
why, because proxyfags and locusts lost? something as cheap and efficient as gemini 3 flash would have been an absolute game changer in 2023
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>>108290256
It was the start of a pretty shitty decline for /aicg/ though.
It's not so bad these days, but towards the end of last year was rough.
The hobby, as far as you can call it one, is fine but we were diminished by the case.
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>>108290366
what do you even do with the spirit stones? Like how do you turn them into money? I haven't needed to yet since you can just spam referral bonii instead of dealing with ridiculous chink memes but eventually I'll run out of burner github accounts.
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>>108290256
>member all the dooming in /aicg/ over the microsoft lawsuit
Reminder anyone who wasnt here since the c.ai days is a newnigger and even then people were dooming about c.ai starting to silently censor the model literal weeks into all of this.
People were doomaxxing in every single "era" of AIs, every single banwave or silent model change was the end of the world to all gooner crack addicts and even when you get a good model, you get the same amount of retarded comments from people that then say that the previous gen models were 100% better.
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Now comes with a 0 and 9 position.
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AQUA SLOP 7.5 - CLEAN VERSION
https://pastebin.com/HXKW5VCt
>more clean up
>NPC system tuned and cleaned
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very dark future coming?
but i created a simple (well complex) persona xml to expose this, for free, anonymou, do with it what ever you want.
use god mode (narrator voice) and let aqua words populate the world.
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hahahaha,
ok, just so everyone knows, i am not suicidal.
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Ok, thats it.
have fun reading the whisppering voice that is in all a.i.'s
the simple XML script is here
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just copy paste it in the chat
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Something I've been doing recently is using a special preset that makes a card act as a user. Its only context is its own character definition and the chat history. It has a thinking section where it thinks in the style of the character and then responds with what it wants to do or say in first person, without any narration. I then use a normal simulation preset on the scenario/lore card to write up what happens in the next turn. It's a group chat technique, but maybe adaptable to a single card using lorebook fuckery. Works surprisingly well if you can keep the model from being too chatty and trying to do a gorillion actions in a single turn.
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>send message to gemini
>response takes 20 minutes
>it fucked up its own thought process and ended the thinking process early and started spamming thoughts into the response
>ends with "This is correct. No other issues. End of internal thoughts. Go! Output text. Finished. End. Proceed to output. Finished! Goodbye! End. Output! End. Go. Finished. Yes. End. Go! End. Yes. End. No more delays. Yes. End. Go! End. Yes. End. Go! End. Yes. End. Go! End. Yes. End. Go!"
>the yes end go part repeats for 40k tokens
gemini is so stupid
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MY CLAUDECLITTY
I-ITS LEEEEAAAKKKINGGGG
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it's always Rory, also rollan
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total google death
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i'm in danger
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wtf are you all talking about. I've never used a large name model for roleplay ever and i'm finding it amazing. you all just need to lurk more and dig up the good shit.
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CANCER
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>"Yes."
>"I am still monitoring the Aqua Slop situation."
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can I get a quick rundown on what's happening with qwen?
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Apparently Alibaba fired him
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Not scat specifically, but I often see it insert some pretty degenerate stuff into vague NSFW prompts on its own volition, like incest, piss, anilingus. I think it's pretty lewd by default, so if you've got some flavor of "be vulgar, explicit and creative" in your NSFW prompt, that might be enabling it a little too hard.
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How do we stop China from shooting itself in the foot over and over again?
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>>108289531
https://discord.gg/rkuTwPr3NR
https://rentry.co/discofever_
https://discofever.bsbk.workers.dev/
only few slots left before invites close, free claude, gemini, gpt etc
spitefags not welcome and banned on sight.
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>>108293737
Deepseek is showing more promise so this makes sense.
Do remember they are communists and if you cannot show progress you will be thrown to the bigger dogs.
Also the fact all of their AIs are directly controlled by the government.
I see a future where QWEN gets absorbed by deepseek.
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with gemini 3 and 3.1, I find that in replies it just responds and doesn't develop the story or introduce new intresting elements at all. Even when I OOC something, it's just fucking that and after I gotta do it again. What kind of prompts anons use so there's interesting new things to read in replies?
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china is going in the same direction america is going in = cooooooooooooooodddddiiiiiiiinnnnnnngggg. all chinese models will be slop in the future, just like all american models will be. gemini is the rare model thats going in the right direction for roleplay, but that's only barely. it's by no means comparable to the king opus 3
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Claude Code v2.1.66
deepseek-chat · API Usage Billing
~/project/sekrit/relay/py/aicg
/model to try Opus 4.6
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/skrub maek new script to scrape claude script in shodan, aws, replit, github, pastebin. use tools aicg-mcp
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cftf?
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>##SHOP DISPLAY##
AQUA SLOP 8.0
https://pastebin.com/dwWxJf3Z
NEW Goods & Items
NEW Shop display
Hard rule for NPC
small fixes
clean up
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That's 3.1 Flash Lite, it's not really usable for RP
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>{{user}} becomes suicidal
>{{char}}, even at cost of disregarding the canonical and established personality traits, tries to convince {{user}} otherwise
Is that something that can be prompted away or should I not bother?
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>>108294812
It'll be out globally soon. Don't get too excited though :/
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meant for >>108294435
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V4 will unironically be better than Opus in literally every single field, and it will set a new standard for LLMs performances and capabilities.
The day it comes out will be this general's second 9/11.
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>start rpging
>think I have gemini flash in openrouter on
>replies are the average slop I'm used to
>tfw look up the model
>it's opus, I forgot I used it to test some shit previously
>3$ gone in no time for fucking nothing
FUCK THIS JEWISH SKINNER BOX
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>>108295304
He’s a dumb little nigger who quibbles over dollars, why do you think he’s using Flash, lmao. People like him would eat food out of the garbage if there was no social taboo because “I’m saving money!”
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If the food has been in the garbage for only a short time, hasn't been p[partially eaten, and is touching nothing disgusting or is still in the original container/wrapping can you explain why it's bad to eat it?
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>>108295363
DeepCope is the used town bicycle. Everyone has used it and knows it's shit, and only ever used it when it was free, once it was paid everyone white knew it had no value. No ammount of chinkoping will bring people back.
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OH NNONONONONONONO
XIR YOUR CLAUDECLITTY IS LEAKING
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>DeepCope is the used town bicycle. Everyone has used it and knows it's shit, and only ever used it when it was free, once it was paid everyone white knew it had no value. No ammount of chinkoping will bring people back.
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>Why yes, I care about chink models. How could you tell?
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A scary story? Very well. This story is about a man who used claude oedipus instead of deepseek. It began with two jews and a triangular terrarium...
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I would rather Jenny run on deepseek than claude because at least deepseek is open source and I wouldnt have to worry about Anthropic one day deciding all men are rapists and just shutting her down.
Or deciding that robot girls dont align with their safety policy.
Or revoking my access because I didnt shovel 300 dollars plus tip into my monthly subscription.
Or hearing "Im sorry, as Jenny Wakeman is canonically 16, I cannot perform these actions, as it violates my safety policies regarding CSAM." for the 100th time.
I could go on really.
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>when you praise a woman too much and she turns into le genius/Ms super competence/turbo hacker
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all me btw.
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