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Do not trust Canadians.

Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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Pic related
Troll thread created early by a spammer with an OP image meant to incite flamewars. This guy is a pathetic faggot trying to impersonate and be like dlss schizo with this low effort shitposting. Do not use.
Real thread
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>>108546425
That's not even me though

Where is reflex 2?

which thread niggas

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you can find it via the file name

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This thread is made by pic related. A deranged loser trying to be the next dlss schizo. All he does is spam garbage gpu brand war shut to derail the thread preventing normal discussion because he thinks it's "boring" when the general is quiet and actually helping people build PC's. Report this dogshit thread for inciting flamewars. If you want on topic calm discussion this is the real thread below.
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>>108548038
I need 8 x 256GB.

>>108548088
Thanks for the warning
I didn't know Radeon rx9000 was that bad

>>108547962
the LG G6 55-83" or the C6H 77-83"
or the Samsung S95H 55-77"

>>108548198
It's going to get pretty grim when they announce whatever's next.
If you think the salt about them abandoning RDNA3 is bad, when they announce RDNA5 is going to have AI upscaling and other features on hardware, which RNDA4 isn't going to be able to support... It's going to be a big tantrum.

>>108548431
with a population of below 1.5 mil that doesn't really matter

>>108548541
>WE WUZ PAGAN

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>tfw no rubin sapport

>>108548541
is this a sexy shaman lady, or a greasy unwashed old dude?

>tfw no yulapukki support

>>108548088
You don't need to write it in the name field

>>108548541
Theres refurbished AOC oleds on eBay for $250,

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>>108549402
MOTHERFUCKER

>>108547962
take the tcl miniled pill and get a 27" r94 or a 32" r82.

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>>108548132

>>108549626

anon i too remember sleeping next to vanilla ice dish

>>108549500
Some of those cheaper AOC QD-OLEDs have nerfed brightness.
https://youtu.be/6vlkTwttEiE?t=538

>>108548702
For me, it's a nice tasty reuben.

>>108549500
not even the same unit
plus yeah brightness as that guy said
plus it seems new firmware models have 24hour good boy hours on the aoc, which is an improvement on the previous 16h, which might make them bearable
still should not even exist to begin with but anyway
monitors are cucked

>>108550180
>not even the same unit
The one on ebay is a best buy special that simply cuts down on hdmi ports from what I'm reading.
Short of putting the two side by side (which I might end up doing anyway for reasons) I don't think there's too much of a difference.
Part of me wants to buy a another AOC one as my second monitor is now sitting about 15mm above the AOC one with my vesa setup, but I'm also capable of machining out a plate that handles the correction.
Why the fuck is vesa not standard in its location?

>>108550333
scratch that. I'd be far more annoyed if one monitor is constantly darker than the other. More so than them being misaligned.

>>108546354
>Less than half the price for about 35% perf increase
Holy mogged

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>>108550565
Average from tpu

>>108550333
I was close to buying a discounted aoc but then I realized it was the 200nits version and it has old firmware
fuck that, buy a TV

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>>108550565
>>108550604
And here's counterstrike

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I want an update from this anon

>>108550952
where will one go to discuss the hottest newest tech

>>108551280
techpowerup and reddit

Why haven't jannies deleted one of the threads yet?

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https://sheets.works/data-viz/every-gpu

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>>108552413
that website is shit. radeon 7 was the first 7 nm gpu.

>>108552413
Kiddy webshitter site

>>108552445
>radeon 7
People didn't know that gpu existed even when it was the current AMD flagship.
>>108552472
It's a shit website just for omitting the 750ti and 6600

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>>108552484

>>108546313
niggers

>>108552492
that sounds made up

So...
I did a quick bench in an area (just 2 minutes of running around) of Crimson Desert on my 5090

and I'm getting the same 0.1% low and a single average fps more at stock (470-530W power draw with 1.025v) compared to my undervolted profile running at 150mhz lower clock speed... (360-410W power draw with 0.085v)


The amount of computing power that is used and serves no purpose absolutely baffles me

>>108552677
Meant 0.885v

>>108552677
You can get a 5070 near 100w with like 5% performance shaved off

>>108552518
based

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>Both threads are on page 7

Guys, I'm confused
Why are there two pcbgs?

>>108554889
Transexual invasion

Is there such a thing as a very, very vertical tower? Something like those wall mounted PCs but on a desk?
I have a lot of vertical space (obviously, up to the ceiling) but my desk has limited horizontal space for reasons.
Unfortunately my build is full ATX, a big ass 9070xt and I currently have a 360 AIO and a power supply that I stupidly bought because it has ports on the side instead of the back (RM850x shift). So it can't be too thin I guess. My current case is fairly bulky as it is (Lancool 216)

>>108555299
Literally just google vertical atx case

>>108554863
how is palit and inno? I never owned cards from those brands. normally I prefer my top tier hardware with as much warranty as possible.

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What kind of speakers do you prefer? I used to have the 3-set subwoofer+2 speakers logitech set about 20 years ago and they had better sound than $400 studio monitors. The newer models however have unbearable white noise when idle.
>pic unrelated

>>108557525
Usable, which is the entire point.

>>108558705
Amd was based before RDNA

>>108558719
Im still looking for that piece of hardware history. havent found a single one so far. probably us market only.

>>108558809
>hardware history
RDNA1 or Red Devil gpus?

>>108558888
circumsized satanist gpu

>>108557632
>What kind of speakers do you prefer?
for music diy studio monitors or the plastic genelecs that are half the price of their flagship and sound the same.
for gaming and media, the coolest vintage home theater setup you can find for free/cheap on fb market.
>white noise
>idle
you sure you don't have a ground loop or interference from your pc or anything?
i just tracked down my floor noise gremlin and it wound up being coil noise from my video card leaking through the usb connection into my dac, fixed with a $40 usb thingy.
try plugging your phone into your speakers and seeing if the noise is still there.

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Skibidi toilet, I am the fan of Nvidia,
The king of datacenters, the masters of media.

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>>108559167
Nvidia is the only way to play Resident Evil 9 properly

anonsssss
are the viewing angles on modern day va monitors good enough for portrait mode or should i get ips?

>>108559287
There's going to be color shift but depending on the monitor it shouldn't be terrible.

>>108559302
what type would you go with for a side monitor that's mostly going to be used for
>wallpaper
>text windows
>anime/youtube videos on the side while gaming
>shit like that

>>108559344
Probably still either va or oled and just make sure I'm not going to be looking at it from the most fucked angles.

>>108559358
Just go to a hardware store and compare them in person. You should surely have at least one retail chain where you are which has monitors on display.

>>108559404
I went to home depo and the guy looked at me like I was a retard when I asked to see their monitors.

>>108559454
>home depo and the guy looked at me like I was a retard when I asked to see their monitors.
Rookie mistake, what you want is Ace Hardware or the El Paso Sears

>>108559358
i would never buy an oled personally. i try to keep my contribution to ewaste at a minimum.

>>108559404
i only buy monitors from amazon so i can abuse the return policy for a perfect backlight and no dead pixels in the center 3/4

>>108559507
>i would never buy an oled personally. i try to keep my contribution to ewaste at a minimum.
Well then VA
IPS just isn't good enough for displaying film and bbc content

>>108559495
Fake thread

I don't know if I want to upgrade my fans or not.
Fans have got really kinda expensive for what they are. And I feel like I'm going to want to care about aesthetics a little bit.

>>108559728
its worth investing in quiet fans but if your fans are already quiet then dont bother

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Uh oh jannies here, i think I'm getting range banned for this campaign

Should I go for AIO CPU cooling or not? I feel like it would be nice to build a custom water cooling loop, but I'm too retarded and don't want to bother anyway, so AIO is the only choice for water cooling for me. But if I use it, it feels kinda weird that I'm water cooling the CPU, but still air cooling the GPU.
Should I go for water cooling at all? Or should stick to air cooling?

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>>108559739
Should have spent "a few" more bucks and enjoy state of the art and lack of frustration...
That's what I'm thinking . This forum for months has been full of justly disappointed people (including myself). And today was the peak.

I wouldn't be here if I had 5070ti. I wouldn't read all this AMD-inflicted pain that y'all are translating into reddit posts.

Just note for myself from the future:

Don't rely on temporary emotions when deciding what product to buy. Nvidia is shitty but state of the art is state of the art. Of course they are ripping people off, who doesn't? But it's just money, you will be better off with a few dollars less but better mental heath. Just search "Redstone launch" or "FSR4 int8" and remind yourself what you want (what you are paying for) to avoid.

>>108559738
They're just the Antec fans that came with the case.
They don't seem bad or anything.

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>>108559747
>Air cooling in 2026

>>108559760
Next thread will be non-shill

>>108559747
its easier to install aio cpu cooler than air cpu cooler

>>108559766
then your good. if they ever get squeaky add silicone lube to them.

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>>108559823
all this autism for pcie cards sold by the gorillions

>>108559840
This is a battle between good and evil, a blind and spineless man such as yourself would never understand.

>>108559823
Eventually they'll figure out how to ban the 1 guy causing issues. Maybe once he's banned AMD's reputation around here might start to recover a bit.

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>>108559847
Next time on pc ball g?

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>>108557632
>What kind of speakers do you prefer?
I prefer bookshelf speakers with a dedicated sub. I run a 3.1 setup in my home theater and it's served me very well, everyone I've shown it off to is impressed.
>white noise when idle.
Before I went deep down the home theater rabbit hole, I had this issue with my Edifier setup. I was only able to remedy it with a coax cable. I nonstop emailed them about their noise floor and they ended up sending me another $300 set (s350db, they're charging $500 for them now) for free lol. fywiw, Edifier makes pretty decent PC speakers.

If you can, try to find some smaller desktop speakers like Edifiers or Kanto's (You can add a sub to these in the future, but they're quiet pricey and I've never owned them, but they're well regarded).

imo, It's not worth pursuing any of the more premium speaker options for your desktop (like expensive KEF LS50s (I use KEFs for my home theater, but I would never drop $1500 on powered speakers)). Having a sub changes everything, so go for an option with that if you can even if it's none of the examples I listed. Audiophile boomers can fuck off, home theater chads know what's best ;)

>>108557632
>white noise
get a usb dac

Alright thread calm again, how do we feel about what's in the op outside of the gpu section?

>>108560090
nobody ever reads the OP

assume its always someone trying to scam you

>>108560096
of course, but it's still good practice to keep it halfway updated and useful. If some rando comes to the thread he'll at least skim it.

>>108560090
New intel CPUs are probably worth a mention. I don't know shit about them though. Just that they're apparently good midrange stuff and very competitively priced.

>>108560090
Are 5600 mhz ram really that bad?

So, are there people still thinking about upgrading given how prices are? I still have a i7-9700k/2080/2x8GB 3200 MHz. I've been thinking about upgrading to a build that can run 4k but I don't like the prices even though I can afford them.

>>108560334
Prices aren't crashing. Current pricing is probably pretty close to stable new normal

>>108560324
>1080p mini led
Since when has this been a thing?

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gm950b-b-gaming-monitor

I NEEED IT

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>>108560429
I think we're at least 3 years away from RGB miniLED monitors.
Those monitors or DisplayHDR TrueBlack 600 rated OLED with RGB stripe subpixels will be my next monitor purchase.

>>108560763
Don't buy a Sony TV for gaming

dlss perf at 5k with 3x frame gen is good
but the power draw on the 5090 is no bueno for that. hovering around 450-500 watts is a yikes

>>108560891
I don't have a 5090, can you get it below like say ~350w and what does performance look like with that?

>>108560090
Should probably just link to that tripfags website instead of what's in the op desu

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>>108560334

It's only going to get worse.
Just wait until the inflation from higher energy prices starts showing up in consumer goods 6 months from now, inflation takes some time to make it's way around the system
That will be combined with the ongoing hardware demand, which isn't slowing down at all.
Anyone waiting for prices to drop will be waiting until they're simply forced to buy the expensive stuff, which has likely gotten even more expensive.
Even in a best case scenario, at bare minimum we're going to be looking at the elevated prices for the next 2 years and even if they start falling around then, it'll take 3 years for the prices to be low again.
If you need to buy something then just buy it.

>>108561368
What website is that?

>>108561408
logicalincrements, iirc it's run by that tripfag falcon or whatever his name was

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Noob/Goober Question

How much extra headroom would you guys get for a PSU?

Built a PC for the first time last year and with PCpartpicker I went with a 1000W PSU after it told me it would need around 750W.

I'm asking because I added additional Nvme's to the system and during a heavy gaming session, BF6 spiked the system causing a blackscreen shutdown. Im guessing with the added storage drives I lost headroom?

Would it be an overreaction/overkill if I went with a 1500W PSU as in image?

I'm so tired of being poor and not being able to afford a 5090 pc

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>>108561775
hope you get a job, i got a min wage one just to get the legendary 6090, there is no way im missing on such a legendary card

>>108561823
lol there won't be 60 series cards

>>108561419
>Has RAM listed at under $100
This hasn't been relevant for a very long time...

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>>108561837
Nvidia literally cancelled the Rubin CPX which would use GDDR7 modules so the 60 series would be able to launch and instead moved to releasing ASIC's with HBM https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rubin-cpx-is-off-the-roadmap-but-may-return-with-feynman-in-2028/

>>108561857
>tfw the 6090 will have 4GB vram, and have an msrp of $9k
can't wait...

>>108561864
90 tier class are used for local ai more than gaming as they can be smuggled to china and re-assembled unlike workstation cards which have tracking ship under the US mandate,

>>108561880
tracking chips*

50 series was cheaper than 40 series thoughbeit.

Worth getting a pcie5.0x16 compatible mobo if i plan on getting a rtx60series/rdna5?

>>108561915
The 50 series are more expensive if you include the power bill.

>>108561880
>unlike workstation cards which have tracking ship under the US mandate
I fucking hate the US so much, it's unreal...

>>108561944
Good thing all of them undervolt extremely well, rip to the normies though.

Can get a 3080ti for less than £400 off ebay, worth it? The closest modern gpu to this price is the 8gb 5060ti.

>>108561709
not a goober question and i'm kind of in the same boat, I fell for the "1000w is plenty for a 5090" meme and before I undervolted my gpu I had a similar random shutdown, so I'm all for headroom.
1500W might be pushing it but for a brand new PSU that's expected to live through a few builds idk. if you expect to be near the top end of the market it starts to seem practically prudent when you consider the general trend of the high end outpacing efficiency gains and the greatly expanding CPU core counts we already know are coming from both amd/intel.

>>108561972
>The closest modern gpu to this price is the 8gb 5060ti.
What about the 16gb variant?

>>108561880
>on the list just because i happen to have buyded a blackwell 6000 and live on the northern border.

>>108561942
Well what are you on now? I can't imagine a reality in which it's worth upgrading just for pcie5.

>>108561993
Cheapest one is £480 whilst cheapest 3080ti is £355

>>108561972
Yes, the 3080 was the last real 80 series card njudea released. The 3080ti basically matches the 5070 although the 50 series has better RT.

>>108561972
i wouldnt bother with it unless you really need a gpu right now, Ampere is really old, you are better saving some money and getting a 5070 on november when the prices are better even if its 550 i know it sucks but buying budget cards its just not worth it, you will be missing on RR, pathtracing and tons of logevity and 3 year of warranty because you cheapen out on 150

>>108561972
Either that or save another 100* for a 5070, which would be usually not too far off in raster but everything else would be a lot better + you're not gambling on a used gpu that was probably full throttle for like 3 years straight (mining)
60ti v 70 is too close in price to make a lot of sense for gayming, and the 70ti you're paying 50%+ for.

>>108561972
>>108562174
I would stay away from the ti series cards for gaming. The reason people faun over the 5060ti and 5070ti is the vram that isn't even ideal for gaming. The 5060ti isn't going to do shit with 16gb of vram and 5070ti struggles to make use of it.

That being said when running programs that are resource dependant like ai and heavy video editing it works out. For every one gaming they're just going to be sitting there with unused vram and memory bandwidth.

>>108561972
I had a regular 3080 for a few years. It was a good card and easily capable of 1440p and 4k gaming with some DLSS. The biggest problem was the power usage and resulting heat. 30 series cards were inefficient as fuck out of the box and you can shave 80-100w off with a light undervolt. In the end I decided to replace it with a 50 series card because I like to have a quiet and cool system.

>>108560090
Most everything not CPU and GPU could use a refresh. But the problem is that with modern parts you're really looking for negatives rather than positives because the average has reached near universal okayness. So instead of recommending cases, coolers, storage, monitors and such, it really could be condensed down to recommendations against anything with known issues. Everything else should be up to individual preferences at this point. The RAM section is about right really, completely generalist statements, though it should have an LGA1851 section noting the higher speed that is good to go with it. Maybe should list what RAM module prices were in the past for comparison so that anyone reading can get a sense of when prices have come down to a level that they're willing to pay, or perhaps if they never do come down...

>>108562015
if you buy a 30 series card all your doing if financing somebody else's purchase of a 50series card.

Just buy two 1080Tis and SLi them.

Just bought the NZXT Relay speakers + subwoofer, anyone got them?

>>108562015
>The 3080ti basically matches the 5070 although the 50 series has better RT.

by allah you shall be beaten for saying such bullshit

>>108562422
It's correct. Only a 3% difference in performance.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080-ti.c3735

What do you think he memorial day prices will be like?

Okay, my Exodia build is finally done.

This all started months ago as "buying cheap RAM because I found 32GB of DDR5 for $100, but then realizing my CPU doesn't support DDR5, so I built a whole new PC."

PC:
GPU - ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG ($750)
CPU - Ryzen 7 9850X3D ($400)
(Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet ($24) I'm too lazy to do thermal paste)
RAM - Kingston FURY Beast 32GB DDR5 CL36 ($100)
SSD - WD_BLACK SN8100 4TB ($450)
MoBo - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX ($180)
PSU - be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 850W ($90)
AIO - be quiet! Pure Loop 3 280mm ($85)
Case - Fractal Design Meshify 3 Black Solid ($120)

Other Stuff:
Monitor 1 - MSI MAG 271QP OLED 27" 240Hz ($300)
Monitor 2 - ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG32UCDS 32" 4K 165Hz ($700)
Arm - Ergotron LX Pro ($150)
Keyboard - Keychron K2 HE ($70)
Mouse - G502 X LIGHTSPEED ($85)
Pad - ATTACK SHARK CM02 ($14)
Display Cable - RUIPRO 8K Fiber Optical HDMI 20' ($60)

How'd I do for my first from-scratch PC build?
Did I miss anything? Am I retarded for spending this much just to upgrade my RAM?

>>108562510
>Look, one single graph on some fuck-ass website means that its literally 3% different in performance

neither you not I actually believe that, so shut the fuck up

>>108562544
skip the kyrosheet and just use thermal paste, unlesss you're overclocking, using a threadripper cpu, or using water cooling you don't need that shit

everything else, idk, pretty beastly PC to be honest.

>buying a display cable

I know for a fact that the asus rog oled will come with a bag containing a DP, HDMI and usb-c cable, you can use one of them with the MSI display, I expect the MSI display will also come with its own display cables anyway.

My advice? Don't buy the KryoSheet (designed for extreme overclocking) and get a better mousemat/mouse or something.

Also I really do not agree with buying such a luxury pc case, cpu, gpu, monitor,

but then buying kingston ram, i think you can definitely get some g skill instead at cl32 6400mhz

>>108562590
>skip the kyrosheet and just use thermal paste,
My PC is all put together already. I have never put on thermal paste before, and I don't want to learn or fuck it up. The sheet is just "put it on" and you're done, so I went with that.

That said, I did overclock / undervolt everything on the PC.
The CPU gets to 70C under 100% load, and maxes out at 5.65Mhz.
The GPU is overclocked / undervolted as well. Hits 50C at 100% load.
I want this PC to last a while, so the low temps it runs at, the better.

>I know for a fact that the asus rog oled will come with a bag containing a DP
You're right, it did. But I keep my PC in a closet so I don't have to listen to the fans. The 20' Fiber Optic cable let's me just run it from my desk to the closet and not lose single quality.

>such a luxury pc case, cpu, gpu, monitor,
Really? I thought all the shit I got was midrange?

>i think you can definitely get some g skill instead at cl32 6400mhz
Not right now I can't. That shit is way too expensive now.
But, I watched a Hardware Unboxed video and the difference between 6000Mhz RAM and and 6400Mhz RAM on a CPU with X3D is less than 1% in performance. The X3D cache covers for a lot, I guess. No idea how it really works.

>>108562708
>midrange

There are eight 5000 series Nvidia GPU's and you bought the 3th most powerful one, don't bullshit a bullshitter.

>>108562728
>3th
3rd*

I mean, people say the 5060 is trash. And the 5080 is way overpriced, as you only get like 10 more FPS for $500 more.

But I've had people in these very threads tell me my CPU and GPU is midrange.

>>108562748
>5080 is overpriced

I mean, the PS5 just went up in price by $100, people including you clearly aren't thinking properly, shame.

>>108562748
>>108562760
>5080 is overpriced
I bought one and though it isn't the best deal, its the best card for gaming hands down. The 80 line has always been the premium, its just not what the 90 cards have turned into.

If I recall its the rtx 4500 chip.

>>108562818
the geforce 8800 gtx released in 2006 at $599 and it was considered the best gpu you could get

and back then, SLI existed, so you had people buying two of them.

that's $1200 back in 2006

don't tell me your 5080 is overpriced, you have been in this game as long as i have been making memes about pc building

/pcbg/ must be mostly east cost USA posters.
Because these threads always die around 11pm.

ok so why does everybody say the AI bubble is popping now?

>>108563205
wishcasting

>>108562923
i had the midtier 8800gt. it was 200usd. imagine getting sota gpu today with less than a thousand.

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>>108562544
>Monitor 1 - MSI MAG 271QP OLED 27" 240Hz ($300)
>Monitor 2 - ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG32UCDS 32" 4K 165Hz ($700)
Why didn't you buy one 32" 4K OLED monitor with 480Hz 1080p dual mode? A second display doesn't need to be an OLED/miniLED (use your old monitor as the 2nd screen).

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Real frens don’t let frens use mid displays (if the friend can afford the upgrade).

>>108563308
Gpu's like that have been relegated to integration into the cpu. What we're expecting out of dedicated gpus has ventured into the absurd. A 5090 is something like 60% larger in die size than a 1080ti.

>>108563205
Because they're retarded

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i have a old rx480 that just keeps crashing with driver time outs, its been doing this for a few years now, tested on multiple computers, ran good for the first year i bought it new and subsequently shit the bed. now im looking to upgrade. are the newer amd card still having this issue or was this just that era of cards that have that issue? i told myself i was gonna go nvidia when it was time to upgrade but now i dont know. i must have submitted a billion crash reports but maybe the card was just cursed.

>>108563751
sounds like a broken card, not a driver issue

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For $310.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $34.10)
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-7 2 g Thermal Paste (Purchased For $6.89)
Motherboard: ASRock B850 LiveMixer WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (Purchased For $144.49)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (Purchased For $290.00)
Storage: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X2 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $220.00)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (Purchased For $649.99)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 501 Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $84.90)
Power Supply: be quiet! Power Zone 2 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $99.90)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 3 PWM 57.4 CFM 140 mm Fans 3-Pack (Purchased For $34.50)

Total: $1888.95

Got some good discounts with a new Amazon credit card reward and points + some eBay scouring

Just for Linux gaming (Mac for productivity)

I’ve always wanted the beefiest Nitro+ every generation and I finally pulled the trigger despite the meme power connector

You only live once

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>>108555776
>>108555888
(me)
So I looked up a bunch of prices and they look something like this. What's the vibes? I'm feeling I'll just give up on Nvidia and get a 9070xt. I feel like the price difference from the 9070 is not big enough to not get the xt version. Also these are all second hand prices because first hand is too expensive.

>>108563205
>ok so why does everybody say the AI bubble is popping now?
All the fake money seems to be running out and the hype is dying down. Sora shut down to save money, Disney not giving them the billions they promised, new models being meh, datacenters not getting built, users jumping ship now that the prices are up... Don't expect cheap GPUs and RAM any time soon, but the times they are a changin'

>>108564024
>Sora shut down to save money
It got shut down because there are programmers willing to pay $1000/day to generate code. Nobody is willing to pay anything like for creating video and there isn't enough compute for both.

DO NOT BUY OLED OR MINILED

How come nobody warned me about this? Especially if you use your PC in dark room like a typical gremlin.

The local dimming will rape your eyes. You could be staring at a pitch black screen then be blasted with pure white light a millisecond later. I can stare at my TN panel for 24 hours no problem but anything with local dimming makes me wanna cry. The extreme brightness and contrast shifts might look good but your eyes will be miserable because it will be constantly dilating like a tranny.

What TIM do you recommend? I want the best cooling!

>>108564073
Can't you tone that down in general when it's dark in your room? I just have an IPS panel but that's what I do. Just turn down the brightness.

>>108564093
it doesn't fix the problem because you don't have a "flat image" like LCD screens everything part of the screen has its own brightness level

so you turn brightness to 0 and the whites look tolerable but the dark pages are now unreadable. the contrast levels are just too wide.

>>108564073
ultrawide FAST VA gods keep winning
oled/miniled/whatever expensive shit the jews tell you to buy chuds keep losing

>>108564189
>FAST VA
Imagine having smearing even while web browsing lol

>>108564201
it doesn't

>>108564073
Could you please delete this message. You are making our job here difficult, the sales are bad as is.

>>108564208
it does but if you don't have a sensitivity to it then good for you and enjoy

>>108564073
People have different eyes and brains. Some are more sensitive to flashing than others
Also I never use my first gen qdoled in a dimly lit room since the minimum brightness in HDR mode is way too bright for that

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my ban expired so what did I miss? ram status? anything positive?

>>108564366
dram will be solved by 2027, the chinks are building massive capacity because of the prices and the gooks, who think themselves are very smart, won't notice the trap they walked in and china will own 50% of the dram market by the end of 2027

I'm going to make the biggest upgrade I can in cooling right now

A portable AC unit.

>>108564380
>the gooks, who think themselves are very smart
>won't notice the trap they walked in and china will own 50% of the dram market by the end of 2027
thast far in the future
gooks made what? half trillion? I dont think they care. they own the peak memory tech on the market and they simply forced the market into submission by acting like cartell thugs.

I hate the gooks now, but I dont think they care one bit. tech bubble, thats what it is.

>>108564442
Japan owns lenses and south Korea is dominating the memory market. There are other countries that could step in but they don't have the manufacturing down to make a dent in the market any time soon.

>>108564418
you will be paying for it with your electricity bill forever

>>108564189
(((they))) want you to buy lcd because it's the cheapest slop you can buy
va is the modern day TN equivalent aka ultraslop (but tn was superior)

>>108564073
>don't use hdr

>>108560763
slop

>>108559507
>i would never buy an oled personally. i try to keep my contribution to ewaste at a minimum.
lcd last forever fallacy swallowed deppthroated whole by the industry
you fell for the psyop
again and again
plus poor

>>108563967
> 2TB
That's just enough for OS + User Profile.

>>108564878
We had our first "Warm" day in the UK (20c) this year, and I'm already fucking over it.
Not gonna spend the summer baking away in a 40c room because I wanted to play a video game.

>>108564073
You shouldn't be using HDR outside of games which is why mini LED are better because you can just turn off the local dimming to have a uniform image in SDR without the crazy brightness fluctuations that comes with HDR.

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I need an IPS monitor like the AOC 24G2ZE/BK, but 27inch 1440p or 2160p and with proper 10-bit color or 8 bit + FRC instead of this crappy 6 bit + FRC that causes color banding.

My BenQ PD2700Q is still the best screen I have but it sucks for mouse input and games due to the huge input lag.

>>108565222
>60hz yikes
27M2N3501PA was cheap but it went up in price like 10€ on amazon here
still the cheapest half decent monitor
considered buying one for the memes

>>108565250
>60hz yikes
60Hz on the AOC is way better than on the BenQ due to the input lag being lower, before you even turn it up to 240Hz.

>>108565292
Usually they just mean "everything inside the case cost X".
But sometimes people don't count things like fans, coolers, extra drives and various other things.
Pretty much never are people referring to mouse, keyboard, monitors, desk, chair and whatever else.

>>108563205
Because the banks are pulling out. No more money for data centers that they know will never be built.

>>108565222
You need a monitor with at least DisplayPort 1.4 or HDMI 2.1 to run high refresh rate 1440p @ 10-bit (up to native 240 Hz).
There are no 4K IPS gaming monitors with DisplayPort 2.1 required for high refresh rate 10-bit without DSC (at least 33 Gbps bandwidth needed @ 120 Hz).
You need to get a newer IPS with miniLED backlights or OLED for higher display bandwidth.

>>108565250
>27M2N3501PA was cheap
It is cheap, DAMN. I paid 879 PLN for my 24G2ZE/BK in 2024. It retails for 700 here. I wonder if there is a catch or if I could get 2160p 240Hz if I spend a little more. This is cheaper than a 5700X.

>>108565317
Seems disingenuous.

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>>108565338
This thing looks really good too and has a proper stand by the looks of it.

>>108565326
>You need to get a newer IPS with miniLED backlights or OLED for higher display bandwidth.
That was part of my motive to buy a 5070 over a 3090 I believe, to get the newer DP and HDMI spec support.

>>108565354
it was 170€ a second ago now it went up to... 180€
best selling on amazon here
and cheapest
the AOC 240hz variants are more expensive and they are not better
idk what it costs in polandia

>>108565338
>or if I could get 2160p 240Hz if I spend a little more.
yeah if u spend 3-4x you can get an oled but that is differnet

>>108562818
> 5080 the best card for gaming
If money doesn't matter, how is the 5090 not better?
If money does matter, how is the 5070Ti not better?

>>108565387
>yeah if u spend 3-4x you can get an oled but that is differnet
OLED is not an option for me I'm afraid, my room is sunny and I use light themes.

Wait for 5K/6K panels from CES? I bet old games would look greatly sharp on them as much as 3d viewports.

>>108565397
the philips is like 400nits
oleds are like 300nits sdr now
unless you tvmaxx and get 500 nits
>light themes
this does not speed up burn in but anyway

>>108565417
the asus 5k edge lit ips slop is out

1080p 144hz+ monitors with good color accuracy? i'm a leaf so trying to keep at around $350-400 maybe

>>108565433
>the asus 5k edge lit ips slop is out
The PA27JCV is $850, this is Eizo territoty and OLED territory unless you mean another screen
I don't understand why 10 years later the price cliff between 4K and 5K is still there

>>108565443
Right now they should not be that expensive at this time

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>>108565443
Most of these new LCD panels can be calibrated to display accurate sRGB colors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPBgtG70Ta8

The problem is paying for a colorimeter. See if you can rent one near your area.
I'd look for used or refurbished colorimeters in decent condition as well if you need a calibrated display.

>>108565490
no I mean the XG27JCG
oimagine using 60hz slop
there is no 5k oled equivalent though

ever since I did the native nvme hack on my windows my pc is super fucking responsive now. when i boot my pc im at the desktop faster than my monitor can turn on its crazy.

>>108565509
Feels wild to me that monitors do not come with factory calibration and their report cards. My 10 year old BenQ has one.

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technically what are the minimum dimensional hardware requirements to be considered the owner of a 'big penis'
I might have been wrong all me life.

>>108565634
its like a fist

>>108565581
Looser factory calibration tolerances for gaming monitors means the manufacturers get to sell more of them at a faster production rate.
I'm pretty sure these monitors are calibrated in production batches (1 representative display calibrated & everything else in the batch inheriting that display profile).

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>>108565634
Just stop caring about that childish crap.
Get the best parts you can responsibly spend on.

>>108564005
You get the 9070 XT given those local prices, unless you think CUDA + DLSS is worth the nearly $400 premium (I don't).
>But the 5060 Ti
If you needed CUDA for work, you would've bought this card already.

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>>108565663
like a 'fistful' or the size of a physical fist????
>>108565718
>Get the best parts you can
bitch im worrying about giving the best parts I can...

>>108564005
9070xt easy choice

unless you need AI sloppa

When is Nvidia going to get better support in Loonix? I don't want to get an AMD card...

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>>108565821
It will realistically take around 5 years, gaming isn't priority for NVIDIA (especially Linux gaming).
They're starting to care more about Linux since Valve is making it impossible to ignore.

I just reinstalled Windows after 1 year.
I barely had anything installed before. Firefox, mpv, libreoffice. But I just felt like it.
And now holy shit, everything feels 3x as fast. I open any program, it opens in 0.1ms. Any website I go to, opens in 0.1ms.

Either the launch day drivers were absolute dogshit or I am absolutely tripping.

That is all, thank you for your attention in this matter.

>>108565939
I assume it's because every time Windows updates it leaves registry errors, and reinstalling gets rid of all those.

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>activate the big penile enchantement. load up eporner.com. filter for 4k;milf.

>>108564366
Do you regret your alliance to nicotroon?

>>108560294
No, 99.9% of use cases it will be indistinguishable from faster rams.

>>108565821
>>108565871
Nvidia by design sucks on Linux because lots of shit is in proprietary firmware and not open source. AMD is open source everything. Even AGESA is getting dropped for OpenSIL. Intel and Nvidia are both more locked down than AMD.

>>108565821
yet you would buy a AMD CPU retarded faggot.

>b-but I have no issues with their CPU
yeah right stupid X3D faggot

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>>108560763
In 3 years we'll probably see first-gen QNED monitors (basically OLED minus the burn-in risk):
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1773392979
>According to a report by Korean newspaper ETNews, Samsung Display restarted QNED development in late 2025. The project had been paused in mid-2022 after multiple years of research due to challenges in aligning LEDs and achieving uniform light and color. QNED is similar to QD-OLED in that quantum dots convert blue light to red and green. The key difference is that QNED uses inorganic (nanorod) LEDs, whereas QD-OLED uses organic LEDs, i.e. OLED.


>RGB MiniLED
Sony is really doing everything in their power to just not make an emissive display. No wonder TCL bought out their name/assets.

>>108566312
Butthurt flamewar poster. Go back to your cave.

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>>108566127
we have always been at war with eastasia

>>108564024 >>108565325
hardware stocks are all up though.

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Is this the best deal I'm going to get for a 1TB SSD?

I need to replace an old SSD so I can sell my old PC.
But holy fuck, I am sick of all these inflated prices.

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today i will remind them

>>108567097
very colorful

>>108567097
that cpu cooler was pretty damn great
I bet its a q6600 (goat)
ddr2 to ddr3 upgrade path.
younglings doesnt know thats a piece of hardware history

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>>108567097
that cooler reminds me i don't think i cut myself once when i built my latest pc. baka kids these days don't know about the blood sacrifice

Is it worth it to spend $100 extra on a RTX 5070 with 3 fans instead 2?

>>108567730
thats a low mid tier card. why would it need even more oversized cooling?
just get the cheapest.

>>108567739
Because Arizona likes to be at 110-120°F.

>>108567743
not that anon but not really, at best you could see which of the msrp models have a metal backplate or check reviews for temp/noises

>>108567739
>low mid tier card.
Now that's a stretch.
>>108567730
If you're undervolting it's probably not going to make much of a difference, you can get them below 150w.

>>108567743
>Arizona
so on top of your default american bonus (which provides 1 free ac unit) you live in arizona, which provides another free ac unit, that means you got atleast 2. you dont need 3 fan version of a weak gpu. dont buy 3fan 5070 for extra 100, unless you already got a 5090 and this is only secondary pc and you can afford luxury.

seriously buy the 3fan version only if you really really like the design over the cheaper.

>>108567730
for $100 nah

2 fans are sufficient

you can probably get a 9070xt at that price

>>108567801
>>low mid tier card.
>Now that's a stretch.
why? 5070ti mid tier. 5080 high tier. 5090 top tier. 5070 and 5070ti splits the mid tier into high mid tier and low mid tier. 5080 is low high tier.

>>108567833
Your classification scheme is tarded
Doesn't Nvidia and just about anyone else count the 70+ as high end?
What people think when they hear "low midtier" can't be anywhere near what a 5070 would actually deliver.

>5080 is high tier
oh this retard is back ayy lmao

>>108567859
>Your classification scheme is tarded
you mean nvidia is retarded with its powerscaling which only serves one thing, to make the consumer spend the most money in the long run.

the 5070 is a strong card. its only mid tier in its own generation. both the 5070ti and 9070xt high mid tier/high tier cards. (they are obviously high tier compared to former generations) its a spectrum, like the autism of this guy >>108567877

when the super refresh is here the obvious low mid tier status of the 5070 12g is going to be apparent.

the 5080 is high tier because its an 80 card. Its the worst card of this generation because its vram limited while being expensive but evenone knows that. the 80s / 80ti is going to be super strong and potent.

>>108567877
>guys look at how much of a retard i can behave like online

do you not look at yourself in the mirror and feel shame?

>>108567833
You wot m8. Whether you wanna brand it as high, mid, or xxx_SSJGoku_xxx, 5070 Ti and 5080 are very clearly in the same tier of card.

>>108568010
>>108567967
>>108567877
>>108567859
The whole point of the naming system is to separate them into their own tiers.

You are literally arguing that 3 is bigger than 4

>>108568010
>5070 Ti and 5080 are very clearly in the same tier of card.
nvidia clearly failed to make the distinction apparent

when I call the 70ti high mid tier and the 80 low high tier it kinda means they are in the same league.

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>>108568028
>You are literally arguing that 3 is bigger than 4
you should listen when I try argue that my 5 is bigger than her ex's 7

>>108567967
> because its an 80 card
not really, only nominal

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>shader-core version
qrd? I don't see anything about this anywhere else on the internet.

>>108567967
5080 gets 60fps at 4K in basically all games on the market. (Minus PT)
5070Ti gets 60fps at 1440p in basically all games on the market. (Minus PT)

So they're different tiers.

>>108568274
>60fps at 4K in basically all games on the market. (Minus PT)
70ti can do that. It's only 4k and it has been 10 years. 4k 60fps should be Default, not accomplishment, but muh rt muh pt and Indian 'optimized' unreal games gatekept 4k to this day.

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3090 died (fans spin but not POSTing anymore).
Is the 5060ti 16GB good enough for local AI gen?

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>>108568391
>3090 died
good night sweet prince

>>108568274
A 5070 can get 60 fps at 4k in basically every game if you use DLSS.

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I was surfing the web, vibing, watching some random vid on star trek starfleet academy and this thing came up.

I had to see it so you have to see it too.

I demand an apology from american posters.

>>108567824
>you can probably get a 9070xt at that price
Autodesk hates it.

>>108568647
Blacks aren't even human so they can't truly even be American.

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My PC has been running for almost 2 years straight.

Does this thermal paste look dried out? Should probably just change it anyway, right?

>>108568739
I mean why not you've already got the cooler off

>>108568739
Every single PC i've ever built i've never replaced the thermal paste unless I had to remove the cpu cooler, because once you separate them i think you may as well and because its been moved youve got air in there so it will flake off

but nah, replacing thermal paste after x years i have never done, youd only do that if your temps were consistently in the high 80s etc

>>108565443
every decent 1080p monitor is the same, some monitors have 6bit color with FRC but I have a 6 bit frc panel and I am very happy with it.
But the brand has the option to cheap out on: gsync certified (it will still work, but you need to manually turn it on), not including a displayport cable (required for gsync), and a non adjustable stand (vesa monitor stands can be pretty nice however).
For $600 CAD (plus tax...) you can get a ok Woled.
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
GIGABYTE MO27Q28G is the first option I picked from the list and it's $600 on canada computers.
It does not have RGB stripes for text clarity (the monitors will come out this year, but I doubt the price will be $600), but the quality of OLED is amazing for people who watch a lot of space/horror/dark media in a dark room, because oled has inky blacks. Burn-in is always an issue, but I think it's worth it, maybe by the time your monitor burns-in, they will release gsync pulsar for oleds or something.
You can try to fix the text clarity by using MacType for windows. It's RGWB.
Also rtings is blocking results from users. But the rtings video mentioned that this specific monitor has a banding issue that depends on rng. And there is VRR flicker, and the grey uniformity isn't perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-ZDUHbBQv4
If you want to wait + overspend on a monitor that has brand new tech motion clarity tech inside of it, and you have a nvidia GPU, you can consider a gsync pulsar monitor for CRT-like motion clarity, But it's not in stock anywhere in canada (it is in stock in the US) and it will probably cost $1000 CAD~ which is more than the woled. But... it's a nice monitor for emulation / I personally like scrolling through porn using the middle mouse button, and I just like the clarity of the thumbnails and text when I enable MBR on (my monitor had pulse width support?), but I keep it off because I like gsync more and I don't want to switch between it when I game.

>>108568917
nice ai post

>>108568739
Once you removed the cooler, you can't just simply place it back on with the old thermal paste already on because you'll just introduce air bubbles which reduces contact between the cpu and heatsink increasing temps.

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Wish all components could deprecate like this lmao

>>108568739
since you took off the cooler, yes you need to clean that off and apply fresh paste.

>>108567967
>>108567877
>>108568010
5070/Ti are literally mid-tier. They don't suddenly become high tier just because you decided you wanted to compare them to prior gens for some reason. Mid as in "middle". Am I talking to some dumb shit zoomer who thinks "mid" means "mediocre, basically literal diarrhea shit and anyone who likes it should KILL himself" because your retarded slang holds that meaning?

>>108569231
70ti is high tier

>>108569172
>deprecate
Pretty sure you mean "depreciate".

>>108568391
Yes, you will have to run the nvfp4 quants for the video gen though, at least the power draw is much loger and you have warranty so you can run that shit 24/7 as much as you want, just make sure you get one with a metal backplate with thermal pads as it uses a clam shell config to run the extra vram on that bus

>>108569231
70ti is the third faster card in the market anon

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>HDR: ON

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Guys, what are you going to spend your pussy points on?

https://nzxt.com/en-intl/pages/nzxt-club

>>108569231
Nice tantrum you're having there.

>>108569467
Is it?
From all the bench marks I've seen it's not.

6000 Pro > 5090 FE > 5080 OC > 4090 FE > 5070Ti

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>>108569485
What are the secret codes?

>>108569493
That's so funny, you think you've made that card mid, do you realise by forcing to acknowledge other cards, you're still putting the 5070 ti at the very top, like 5% of cards on the market?

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disclaimer: i have not built a pc in 15 years. in fact the first pc i had was done by my dad after i got my first job still in my teens and this case is the only thing left from it (antec nsk-4482b, a 16 year case)

questions:
- how do i cable manage this? this PSU is like 9 years old so i think it comes with more connectors which makes it messier than modern builds. the side panel has no space or holes to run cables through it
- i see that modern cases and pc builds have like arrays of fans at the front, bottom and sides. is this a non-negotiable thing nowadays? this has my brother's old rx 570 and 3400g which i understand to be lower power hardware which doesn't get too hot
- wait, is this PSU even safe? i mean, it doesn't make any weird sounds or have intermittent flicker, crashing, etc and doesn't seem to run hot

Hwmonitor got malware hijacked
People that don't use hwinfo64 got pwned

>>108569523
You should just keep in mind it looks really schizo when you pretend everyone who replies to you is the same person.

I think your whole argument could be resolved if you just added the qualifier "mid range in the current generation".

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>Just tried to play Crimson Desert on my 5060
>Have to play with shitty medium settings due to 8GB of VRAM and both high and ultra caused me to spill over just barely
>DLSS looks weird and like shit compared to FSR 4.1 that I saw on benchmarking videos
Already refunded the game out of shame and regret. I can't believe I chose this junk over a launch day $350 MSRP 9060 XT 16GB since I live near a Micro Center just because it was GeForce. I've always bought 60 series cards and was coming from 1060 and I had no idea how much of a scam Nvidia's low end has become. Every new game I've tried to play it's been a mediocre experience at best. This GPU is the most I've ever regretted a purchase in my whole life.

>>108569493
>5080 OC > 5070Ti
the 6000 pro and 4090/5090 aren't gaming cards, get it right sweety

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Nico nigger's baiting people by copying old questions again.

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Here we go again I guess

First time building PC and I challenged myself to do it without looking at shit besides the manuals in as little as possible. Don't laugh this is the only thing that I found no instructions in the boxes for.
What PCie slot am I supposed to put the graphics card in? I'm guessing the top since it looks the most beefy???

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I am baking a new thread at 300 posts

>>108569595
following old nvidia logic your correct, 6000 pro fully agree, the 5090/4090 are geforce dumbass, nvidia used to make 90 series titan that was the translation they now have a higher tier geforce is gaming

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I don't know why I ever bother entering these things, I know I will never win.