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How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/

>/iemg/'s Journal:
https://iemgazette.pages.dev/

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/

>Measurements:
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22
• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30
• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18
• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

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>>108548221
Thanks, doc.
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>>108548221
DANKE HERR DOCTOR
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On the topic of headphones. Any good headphones?
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>>108548221
Why is epz g10 so fucking retarded bros?
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>>108548331
Fox techs.
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>>108548318
If you are willing to EQ, anything that is comfy and reliable enough.
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>>108548331
how can an iem be retarded you dummy
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>>108548318
tanchjim rita
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>>108548331
>3d printed front vent that can't be blocked by the ear
>anatomical shape for secure fit
>incredibly cheap customization
>normgroid tuning
It's smart as fuck actually.
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>>108548221
where do I acquire these?
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>>108548318
for headphones you'll need to find... comfortable ones for your head, open with good bass, low acoustic impendence, low unit variance, low channel variance, low positional variance, good default tuning, low distortion for EQ, with easily obtainable earpads.
So in short good luck with that
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>>108548858
so Sony MDR-MV1 and HD490 Pro
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>>108548858
omg stop being an autist retard, iems are the highest acoustic impedance devices and need to assume your HRTF that is completely bypassed, so if your DF ear gain peaks earlier than 3k and your pos is tuned to have the ear gain at 3k it'll sound unnatural as fuck, hps have that backed in, not to mention the totally shitshow insertion depth and length modes that is a PITA to fix

and you say as if you can't find your sweet spot with hps and keep that position every seating
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>>108548850
https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-r4-x-evangelion
the rest is prolly custom
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>>108548221
How to eq soundstage?
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Was told to come over here from /sqg/ so I'm gonna ask here again:
This might be dumb but: Are there any earphones that are good for cycling? Preferably wired so that I don't fucking lose them if I hit some hefty bumps. (and also my old ass phone needs wired headphones to get a radio signal) Since they are for cycling I also need them to not be noise cancelling. That's pretty important, so I can hear shit in the roads. Should also have a mic to occasionally take calls, and not cost a hundred dollars. Does such a thing exist? Anything in this general, decent for cycling without breaking the bank?
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>>108548988
>iems are the highest acoustic impedance devices and need to assume your HRTF that is completely bypassed
well yes. but also gate or bunny is like $20
>so if your DF ear gain peaks earlier than 3k and your pos is tuned to have the ear gain at 3k it'll sound unnatural as fuck
that's not exactly true. brain will adapt it gives less fucks than most assume
>not to mention the totally shitshow insertion depth and length modes that is a PITA to fix
this depends but again shit is like 20 bucks and length modes aren't that hard to fix.
half of the time fixing peaky and dipy headpos treble is simply impossible.
>and you say as if you can't find your sweet spot with hps and keep that position every seating
not always. Head movement will move headpos too. Earpad wear will change sweet spot and peaks. and the most important of all your headpos won't cost $20
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>>108549536
truthear gate with mic
$20
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Why are we suddenly pretending that insertion depth is in any way important for a single person? If pos is comfortable and sits at the same spot you can be sure that insertion length won't change. Then you just EQ length modes and peaks out and maybe tilt FR with a couple of filters... and that's all
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*Thieaudio Prestige LTD*

https://youtu.be/FXD4jh3cUXU?si=CSoPMaasuvOgVZjD
https://youtu.be/pi7h7njZgmM?si=Zi9hrmQfO1fP8wFS
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*forgot pic*
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>>108548888
pretty much yes
or anybody can just buy gate for $20 and it will be like 90% there
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>>108548318
Stuy Bax
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>>108549672
>>108549649
g.a.y.
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>>108549457
add a dip at 2k and lower the ear gain if you want to give the vocals some sense of depth instead of being in your face
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>>108549457
EQ your pos fully FLAT. Using your length mode position calculate your ear canal length. Then using that calculate your natural ear gain frequency. apply it to EQ. add treble shelf to preference. then play 3D audio and use high Q peak filters to add positional ques via trial of error
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>>108550029
uhh is there a little pinna you forgor?
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Got the memezu Wan'er S.G II and they sound worse than my favorite xiaomi Dual Magnetic Super Dynamic ones, I'm still upset I damaged one of the them so they don't sound balanced what a piece of shit thos memezus are in comparison. Literally non existent lows and piercing highs what a trash heap, be ashamed recommending these.
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>>108550350
not to mention horribly uncomfortable, never fucking coming to this general ever again, you are retarded
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>>108550350
>Wan'er S.G II
kek
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>>108550466
don't you dare keking, that shit is listed in the recommended budget list, should have gotten the same pair of old stock xiaomi for a little more, so fuck your thread
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>>108550177
you'd have to assume average ear gain shape
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>>108550350
>Literally non existent lows and piercing highs
sounds like seal problems? try other eartips
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>>108550521
Tried even the xiaomi ones, EQd the fuck out of lows, they plain suck nothing to add. This trend with zoomers paying for some shitty drawing or whatever on their piece of garbage buds is what drives the sales. Plain xiaomis run circles around them but they are not "cool" looking right? Also a shame the stock is not reliable with cheap copies of already cheap buds everywhere.
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>>108550559
literally every measurement of waners show decent amount of lows. they should not be too bright either. If you have long ear canals maybe your length mode is too close to 6k and elevates the whole region around it.
Either yours are broken or you have no seal
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Will anyone release a truly electrostatic IEM ever again? The last one was from Shure in 2015. Sonions are electret, not equivalent.
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>>108550577
when the xiaos were new the sound stage was insane now after a few years of sweat and damage they still bounce, brand new waners sound like deflated balloon
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>>108550616
No, grandpa.
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The most useless general in the history of 4cdhan
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>>108550792
/ptg/ is that way sar
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>>108550792
blame it on the tranny schizo that loses to chatgpt every single time
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>>108550645
yeah I figured out what's wrong with memzus, they have eviscerated mids so the lows are never full sounding and highs are piercing, xiaos have very rich mids that ties everything together.
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>>108550842
better, but no miracles since the drivers are shit
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>>108550990
>drivers are shit
how does that work? can't you just eq to perfection?
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>>108550990
is this a joke post?
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>>108551013
he's just retarded. and likely deaf
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>>108550695
What did he mean by this
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Why is ea500lm so mid, bros?
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>>108550792
*For real*
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>>108551097
because ea500 is obviously superior
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>>108548221
just in case anyone else was worried about the Sandisk clip mp3 players all being out of production, I got one of these (Yoton clip) and it's surprisingly not shit. I normally use a Clip Jam, and the yoton is larger in all dimensions but still small.

The build quality is slightly worse/less polished. The button area is far smaller on the yoton than the clip jam. the yoton is probably more comparable to a Clip Sport than a clip Jam. Also, the UI feels less polished.

On the bright side, it's pretty cheap, comes with a 64GB memory card, has a color screen, and basically all the same functions of the sandisk clip players. Battery life also seems to be fine, and it's got USB-C, a separate power button, and the headphone port is on top which I like.

Would recommend as a sandisk clip replacement.
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>>108550990
dolby atmos is a bit dramatic since it's weak, here is hiby that works better.
>>108551033
you are fucking deaf try using something that isn't chink shit for a change
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>>108551013
as much as drooling retards posting here insist that you can, you can't. It's cheap shit for a reason.
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>>108551202
You personally can't. I of course can.
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>>108551218
poor dunings like you that never had the pleasure of trying boutique shit do be thinking that way
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>>108550616
Use case?
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>>108551228
You physically can't because you have 0 IEMs.
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>>108551142
That's true.
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>>108551231
Detail and speed and punchiness with low distortion that conforms to EQ very well
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Large tips fit me perfectly when I had Mega5ESTs. On my new Monarch MKIIIs they're too big. Now I have to buy a bunch of medium.
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>>108551188
here is another for vocal heavier tracks, the other is more for instrumental
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Good morning, does anyone use PeqDB?
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>>108551333
Send me the large tips
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>>108551322
>Detail and speed and punchiness with low distortion that conforms to EQ very well
What did he mean by this?
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>>108551188
>you are fucking deaf try using something that isn't chink shit for a change
lmao? xiaomi you used before is chink shit dumbass
I obviously have a bunch of different IEMs and headphones...
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>>108551472
what are you pretending to be retarded? the fact that out of all these cheap chink shits xiaos come on top means I had something better to compare them to don't you think? Don't fucking (You) me ever again.
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>>108551508
You're struggling with eartips, you have nothing to compare them to.
>inb4 a head dent machine
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>>108551431
Fake
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>>108551508
>the fact that out of all these cheap chink shits xiaos come on top means
it doesn't mean anything
xiaomi is like 2000 times bigger than fucking tangzu making their shit in some basement lmao
you are fucking stupid
also you are objectively wrong because waners 1 and 2 are some of the most popular IEMs and were reviewed by hundred of retards with dozens of measurements on magnitude of measuring rigs and none agrees with you
sucks to suck
also you are crying a bit too much about $20 pos aka almost literally free
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>>108551674
>all this backpedalling
your general sucks, you copy what other paid shills say instead of running own tests, get fucked.
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>>108551431
I THOGUHT ELECTROSTATIC WAS THE BEST TRANSDUCER TECH WHY DOES AN ESTAT HAVE DISTORTION THIS BAD WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHAT IS HAPPENING WHY WHY WHY WHY HOW DOES THAT WORJ WHAT THE FUCM FUCM CKDKS
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another ayy lmao moment after running a few tests with different DACs, those wankers sg 2 tend to distort bad even with a slightest EQ, the drivers must be made out of cheapest china magic cost saving piece of shit imaginable, literally can't even EQ them to sound decent
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I DIDNT BUY A POS I DIDNT BUY A POS I DIDNT BUY A POS ELECTROSTAT IS BEST DETAILS AND RESOLUTIONS THE THD GRAPH IS SOME SORT OF ARTIFACT OR MEASUREMENT ERROR ITS NOT REAL IT DIDNT HAPPEN IT SOUNDS CLEANER IT SOUNDS CLEANER HELP HEPP HELP HELP
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>>108551700
wtf do you mean backpedaling you delusional deaf retard?
measurements are objective metric tho lmao... and there are a lot of them. all different sources, different units, different couplers.
You are so fucking stupid holy SHIT.
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>>108551782
why would you think something so retarded? dynamic drivers were and still are the best transducers LOL
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preying on gullible idiots - the general
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>>108551817
NO NO THE NEARLY WEIGHTLESS ETHEREAL MASS OF THE DIAPHRAGM THE EFFORTLESS THE INCREDIBLY THIN DIAPHRAGM THE SPEED SPEED THE SPEED WHY DID THIS HAPPEN HOW COULD A $20 CHINESE DYNAMIC DRIVER DO THIS THIS IS ALL A PSYOP PSYOP PSYOP SHURE IS A PRESTIGIOUS AUDIO COMPAN THEY PAINSTAKINGLY DESIGNED THE FIRST ELECTROSTATIC IEM IT HAS TO BE GOOD IT HAS TO BE GOOD PLEASE PLEASE
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what is the lowest distortion most technically pristine IEM anyway? and does it translate into sharp imaging and realistic spatial cue rendering?
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>>108551858
> DESIGNED THE FIRST ELECTROSTATIC IEM
Uhhh akshully it was the SR-001 mk1 back in the 1995 and it is quite decent even by modern standards given how gimmiky the fit is
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>>108548221
What's the thing on the left with the Ryzen 7 sticker?
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>>108548364
That dislike counter is a placebo and I would suggest uninstalling it
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>>108551929
omg... is it a laptop??
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>>108552264
you do realize that i want to have sex with people who type in lowercase with ellipses right
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I remember there used to be a headphone general on this board what happened to that? I had a question about mics for my hd600s. I don't want to use a streamer type mic it's just obnoxious and takes up too much space but cheaper desk mics I've seen tried on Amazon suck and seem more for office meetings in a larger room. I've seen modmic but that's more than I want to spend. I've seen some online mic cables but I like the cable I use now. Anyone have similar experiences?
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>>108552597
just look at this shit, some gay pride fag color themes and zoomer tier quality of posts this is probably the gayest most superficial general on /g/, no audio enthusiast want to be paired with these mental cases. Just looking at some of the "custom" ""designs"" on here makes me wonder if these faggots even care about sound quality at all
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>>108552597
>>108552649
/hpg/ lost
audiocels lost
Superior waifu techs won
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What do you guys actually think about the HiBy R1 aside from the OP recommending it? I just want to listen to music without my phone or Spotify, I don't need anything fancy.
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hmm I wonder what tranime fur faggotry picture on my pieces of ear cancer defines me the best hmm.. last time I checked earbuds were a thing normal people used to commute or jog with, this whole "in ear monitor" shit is some advanced mental illness because you have to be delusional to compare literal disposable trash to proper headphones and then they paint pictures on them lmfao
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>>108551888
>the lowest distortion
>does it translate into sharp imaging and realistic spatial cue rendering
hell no that's not how it works
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how do i cope owning this high distortion pos
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>>108552700
Upgrade to fox IEM.
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>>108552696
why do you bother taking the time to just reply "no" without elaborating
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>>108552715
because I can and this general isn't based on big brain audio academia factoids anyway, it's a cesspool of emotional schizo spergs/audio nihilists.
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>>108552708
orangepill me on fox techs
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im a layman, how do i interpret THD and distortion graphs? higher number bad?
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>>108552875
yes, but after a certain point lower =/= better
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>>108552875
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/research/distortion-audibility

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/research/distortion-audibility-listening-tests

unless ur deaf that listen to super loud volumes, most iems have distortion low enough that you dont have to worry about and the higher number isnt necessary bad as it depends on the harmonic profile (read about masking in the first link) so something highish but falls inside the masking curve wont be audible but low thd with harmonics falling outside the masking you might hear it
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is the dunu ito any good for my music library?
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>>108553391
not much better than what you can buy for half the price.
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>>108548221
>fashion tec
taking money of weebs its like taking candy from a child
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why there is so few BT DACs with a clip? just qudelix?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlTrZaR98_I
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>>108553563
>taking the psychoacoustics angle now.
took you long enough
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I hate JM-1 + 10dB tilt. What does that say about me?
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>>108553816
nobody is saying you're supposed to love it. enjoy whatever it is you enjoy and if anyone tries to convince you otherwise, tell them to suck a bag of dicks.
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>>108551155
does it work with android auto?
>>108548221
>avoid using mainboard audio
so my USB-C cable that plugs into my motherboard isnt good enough? do I need a soundblaster card or something?
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>>108553936
>USB-C cable that plugs into my motherboard
what they meant is the headphone jack on the mobo itself. don't use it.
do you need a soundblaster card? no, just get a decent dongle and you're set.
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>>108551155
The big appeal of the Clip was the fact that you could put Rockbox on it. Unless this has the same internals and compatibility it's not that interesting desu
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Is Sony's WF-1000XM6 really that great as a noise canceller or is it an overpriced garbage?
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>>108555014
it's garbage in general
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Is there any reason to hang onto or collect these high samplerate/bitrate 24 bit depth audio files? My gut feeling is they're just a meme.
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>>108553816
you sure you hear JM-1 10db tilt?
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>>108555451
>Is there any reason to hang onto or collect these high samplerate/bitrate 24 bit depth audio files
no
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>>108548221
Any suggestion for budget noise cancelling earphones/headphones? Really just want something that blocks out outside noise
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https://tangzu.net/products/tangzu-waner-sg-2-india-version-10mm-pet-driver-single-dynamic-in-ear-monitor-with-detachable-cable

What the fuck is this? Is the shell made out of cow dung?
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I know my question is not gonna be strictly about headphones, but I think this is the best general atm to ask:

I have a setup that goes like this:

ASUS XDG on Linux to Behringer MS40 through toslink.
I often use Beyerdynamic DT770 250 Ohm while using it, but I wanted to move to wireless for some tasks. I recently saw the FIIO BR 13 which would allow me to use BT headphones. My question is, I'm researching how good the MS40 DAC is, so I don't know if I should use Coax out or RCA/3.5mm.

Does it matter? am I trying it too hard and whichever would be fine? Thanks
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>>108556973
>Does it matter
no
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>>108555510
>go to the crinacle's 5128 tool
>EQ to JM-1 -1dB/oct
Duh??
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>>108557025
>a whole bunch of complex R&D
>to make an analog metal bike bell
>that is hearable through ANC
>the research paper is free
ngl kinda based for Czech Volkswagen to do this
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>>108552700
Euphonic harmonic coloration (THD) > Sterile clean pos sound
>>108552875
You don't, because it does not even matter
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>>108557570
5128 HRTF is not your HRTF
duh
where's your length modes and what exactly don't you like?
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Imagine not recording your own personal HRTF profile baka
https://youtu.be/qRph8T4L2MU
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>>108557892
>5128 HRTF is not your HRTF
Duh, that's the point of using JM-1, it's some population average. Everyone aiming for it, and it's not average, won't find it neutral or like that tilt, which is a preference thing and not HRTF linked.
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>>108553816
>I hate JM-1 + 10dB tilt.
Most people do. Undipped midbass performs terribly in blind tests.
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I hope TWS tips don't become the new meme, they implode when you're lying on your back.
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>>108555451
many audiophiles invest in crazy expensive speakers just to play a what...$50 record? a $14 CD?
you'll never get more information that what's already baked into the audio. you don't need 24-bit over 16-bit and you don't need 96k over 48k.
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>>108555451
>Is there any reason to hang onto or collect these high samplerate/bitrate 24 bit depth audio files?
Unless you have a very specific hardware setup (if you are asking about this, you probably don't), then no.
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why do people keep getting this slop and then complains that it's shit? no shit it's shit that has garbage build quality.
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>>108555451
24 bit is for editing. it sounds exactly the same as 16 bit, even dithered.
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>>108560528
holy jargon shut your ass up lol
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my preference > your preference
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Is there such a thing as a half decent gaming iem with mic? Budget under £30.
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What IEM should I buy I have no money and like cool music
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>>108561389
7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2
Turtle Beach Battle Buds
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>>108561524
do this aliexpress trick and get edc pro for free, lil bro
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>>108561564
how
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Bought used IEMs on eBay and seller included a $300 ConX 2-pin system cable. Feels good man
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Bought a HiBy R1 because the reviews seem decent and saw it recommended here. Surely /g/ would never lie to me.
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Bought to keep the trend.
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Got my Tiandirenhe TD21 earbuds. Sound like ass stock but super cozy with EQ.
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best iem to listen to the new REZZ album??
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every attempt of me getting this from aliexpress has resulted in a refund. and none of them really were much cheaper, i just liked the feeling of using coins and coupons for the perceived savings, when import tax makes it all moot in the end.
i just really want one, you know? i'll probably only really use it a few times, and then the occasional take it out of the box and plug it in, but hey, it makes me happy.
at least that's what i tell myself, when im alone, in my bed, while crying myself to sleep.
im so lonely.
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>>108551155
>sandisk clip replacement
could only be a real replacement if it's compatible with rockbox. alas, nothing like that exists
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is there such thing as decent cheap dac+amp?
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>>108563331
fosi ds2, moondrop dawn pro, fiio q3, trn black pearl, cayin ru3, protocol max
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Are you guys ready for the?

*Synphonium Zenith*


https://open.spotify.com/track/5BIl5T1vtqE4tRk6eMpBdk?si=KsfFnEHyQASrbuhwIPkdNA
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>>108557025
>only woman in clip is from HR
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>>108557935
how to achieve this for home use
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>>108563884
Dox your face and head shape to private companies so that they can run AI on the reference data to generate a personal HRTF profile. You know, the same shit that Mark Cerny used to talk about. There are no private local solutions available yet unfortunately.
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Are you guys ready for the?

*Knowledge Zenith Vibe X*

Michael Jackson - Billie Jean.mp3
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>>108551888
Techs are high distortion. BAs, tubes, R2R.
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Should I get Airpods or Bose QC?
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>>108566499
Airpods have better drip, comfort, and ANC
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wait symphonium is a weeb brand?
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So anyway I bought audiocular spark for my tangzu sg2 and it absolutely ruined the output. It even made my head pain due to explosion. Never again
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>>108567555
it's a cute lil dongle. sorry it took a shit and died on you
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>>108549649
what it feels like to be a cock sucking faggot
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>>108567696
you don't seem happy with that. maybe cock sucking isn't your thing??
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>>108567782
Shill your chifi somewhere chang mkay could you do this slight favour for me and fuck off? yeah? thatd be nice
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>>108567797
I would tell you to fuck off to reddit but you seem to have that bastion covered real well already so I'm just gonna recommend getting a normal job
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>>108567797
hey man I'm not the one struggling with gayness. you brought it up
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>>108567818
hey you started it with that FagAudio post of yours!
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>>108567827
nah, I didn't post that, but it is hilarious watching you squirm
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>>108567852
I don't give a Saint Alchemist Based shit but on the off chance that you are I hope that you get permanent ear damage from a chinese microplastic nanorobot crawling up your ass through the nozzle
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>>108567869
>I hope that you get permanent ear damage
why do you feel this way?
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>>108567909
Because I'm full of hope that miracles can happen
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should i buy this 500 dollar TOTL DONG
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>>108568040
>500 dollars
you could get soooo much weed with that instead
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Are there any halfway decent open back IEMs? Ideally wireless, ideally sport "hooks all the way around the ears" style, but anything compatible with external TWS hooks could work.
I want something for rock climbing where I need to be able to hear rope commands back and forth and it's ok if the sound quality has to suffer to make that happen. Last resort if nothing exists is bone conduction but I'm not a big fan of them. Budget is anything sub-4-figures.
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>>108568536
you mean earbuds? plenty of them around, probably some beats stuff or you can go the ear clip route
check scarbir for more info
https://www.scarbir.com/tws/open-ears-from-amazon-tested
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>>108568559
No, I want something that's fully inserted, but with an open back behind the driver. Like the Audeze iSINE, but not that huge because no way that shit doesn't fall the fuck out after a whip.
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Is the OpusX OP.22 better than the reccs in OP? Just watched good reviews about it, and the switch looks cool
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>>108568584
audeze isine, that's pretty much it
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>>108568631
I dunno about better but it will probably be fine.
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>>108568536
>Are there any halfway decent open back IEMs?
open back IEMs do not exist
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So I just got home wasted out of my socks and I have this super duper rare Eliphas Levi 100 copies limited edition demo cassette tape. Tell me why I shouldn't unseal it and listen to it on my MK1 GREEN Cadenza while I fall asleep in my comfy bed with brand new sheets on? Cassettes are objectively garbage, and are really only good for collecting, but collecting shit is also gay and cringe and music is to be enjoyed in all it's forms and using whatever technology you have on hand.

Tell me I'm wrong. I'm not.
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>>108569345
This shit is so godlike I can't believe I own it. I will open it and use it you can't stop me.
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>>108569345
>>108569354
cool story bro, here's a (You)
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>>108569354
fuckin do it already. enjoy your shit. you can't listen to it by staring at it...
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>>108569466
Thanks, I appreciate the you.
>>108569474
It's so good. In this one they had a different vocalist that didn't make it to the official lineup. When they recorded their albums after they had their real guy. This same song was released with two different vocalists. Pretty sick hearing the difference.
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Anons, I've got Beyerdynamics 770 M, not 770 Pro. Is it good for making music?
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>>108570343
No. It's really quite terrible for making music, as it is completely incapable of recording music at all.
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>>108570393
I can't tell if you're being literal and autistic and making some austistic joke about it not being a microphone, or saying that it's subpar for mixing, mastering tracks on FL
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>>108570409
I am just being an asshole taking it too literally
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>>108570417
thanks for being real bro I was legit asking for advice cause I'm learning to make classical and electronic music and I wanted to know if my gear is sufficient for that
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hrt sisters, our tots on crin reference??
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ive been using the same iems for 4 years
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>>108570834
>eqd to fox target
Nice
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>Budget
~150
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Apple music
>Frequency response preference and music examples
Beats
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
Wgner sg2. It's like good in the lowest low. Need iems tgst capture more details. Sound doesn't get mixed.
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>>108571259
EA500LM
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>>108570986
umm no thats jm-1 with 8db bass boost
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Is the topping e70 dac decent?
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>>108571259
Unironically iPod Pros
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>>108572229
Yes, it just works.
Although the BT reception could have been better, it stutters when I am using LDAC high bitrate settings, although it is completely fine with my TWS.
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>>108570589
depends
what kind of fit will you have?
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recommend me comfortable and cheap bluetooth iems with big batter for listening to audiobooks
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>>108573060
>nothing major changes
lol
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>>108573653
>5dB at 6k
>nothing major
Real audiophile moment. And 711 doesn't even resolve the difference at 300Hz.
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>>108573463
truthear gate + fiio utws5 for 30h battery
>inb4 too expensive
go flip burgers
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>>108573683
711 canal is too short, no one can fit that deep without 3-flange so the range is actually lower
>And 711 doesn't even resolve the difference at 300Hz.
theres no data supporting humans have this feature
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>>108573718
>711 canal is too short, no one can fit that deep without 3-flange so the range is actually lower
wrong? my length modes are unironically at around 9500 with most IEMs
only gates with short wide tips put it at like 8600-8800.
For me daybreak unironically sounds like this btw lol I don't think there's a dip like that around 7500 but crazy fucking shit around 10k is 100% real and it sounds fucking awful
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I want to buy a cheap headphone to be used exclusively for my clp piano
My option is samson sr850 vs koss ksc75. Both cost around 20usd ish in my shithole. Which one should I go for?
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praise of the $3 3.5mm impedance adapter (200ohms impedance adapter on 19 ohms hisenior mega5p ultra (1 DD+4 BA hybrid) and aune yuki se dongle dac (90mW on the 3.5mm ) :
>+3db bass boost on my hybrid iem (see graphs below)
>my normal listening volume is now 34% which gives me fine grain volume adjustment ( without impedance adapter i was at 4% and 5% was already too loud). on paper this should give me a 10x improvement in thd but i did not hear it.
>my dongle suffered from EMI from my phone and it is totally gone.
YAY !!
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>>108574037
>he fell for the multidriver IEM meme
Btw that's not THD on the graph, that's noise floor.
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>>108573691
>paying fortune for audiobook listening
are you retarded?
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>>108574510
>fortune
pagpagzo attacks again
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>>108573463
https://www.scarbir.com/guide/cheap-earphones-with-longest-battery-life
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>>108574037
>increasing impedance lowers signal strength
OH WOW THIS IS GENIUS
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I swear to God the fucking Maono mh700 looks exactly like the AHT headphones. Any of you faggot tried it, how is the sound quality?
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>>108573031
So if I plan on not making using of the blue tooth it wouldn't be that bad?
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>Zenith sucks
holy shit!
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>>108575355
hmm
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>>108574752
>Any of you faggot tried it, how is the sound quality
no but more likely than not it's dogshit
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Forget everything you thought you knew about sound quality. The Dolby Atmos Renderer changes everything.

https://youtu.be/FIJVTXbQx1Q
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>>108576101
so... has anybody tried it?
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>>108575076
I mean it does the job, don't think that I ever had a single problem with it
Although after hearing that toppings blow up headphones I caught a phobia and ended up buying a different DAC instead so now it just sits collecting dust
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>>108568040
I got mine on discount but yes. Stopped all 'what ifs' and 'how abouts'.
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guys… i didn’t know corsair bought assdrop in 2013 then they turned to soulless collabshits shop ;-;
have to make an account for apos audio
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>>108576351
Interesting, well I plan on using it as just using it as a dac for my stereo.
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>>108574752
The original is bad, what do you expect from a knockoff.
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>>108577481
>what do you expect
nta but asking means he's inquiring, the opposite of expecting. that's why anon asked, smartass.
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>>108576101
Surround is a meme, music is meant to sound in front of you, not around you. Only Bose does this, and it requires head tracking.
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>>108580048
>music is meant to sound in front of you
says who? quadraphonic mixes have been done since at least the 60s
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>>108580171
Says everyone that listened to live music.
>quadraphonic mixes have been done since at least the 60s
And they were a colossal failure because music is meant to sound in front of you.
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>>108580176
cite one serious person
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>>108570343
Headphones in general and beyers in particular are not good for making music. "Studio headphone" simply means it has noise isolation. You can use a helicopter headset like Burzum. Everything that requires actual audio accuracy is done on speakers. It will never be the bottleneck though.
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>>108580196
I'm serious.
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psst. hey kid. wanna see my frequency response?
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i want much slam and physicality as possible without its decay bleeding into the next note. if you think of waves, i want each wave to be as big and tall as possible, while also having the water level return to flat before the next wave. maximum amplitude within a zero carryover constraint. not dense and continuous, not lean and separated, but some sort of ideal Pareto frontier where impact and separation are both maximized. do you understand?
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>>108581480
eh? isn't part of music making process is to make sure your shit plays well both on speakers and headphones?
> Everything that requires actual audio accuracy
what does that mean?
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>>108576101
atmos fucks with the EQ too much
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>>108582370
see >>108566283
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>>108582370
This.
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>>108582370
>do you understand?
well other than that you are retarded not really no
but either way try speakers
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>>108570343
boob
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Are rosefinches good?
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>>108582394
>isn't part of music making process is to make sure your shit plays well both on speakers and headphones?
yes.
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binaural/atmos are music with ASMR, which is disgusting and sounds fake, like, the first listen is okayyy, cool-ish effect, 2nd and 3rd listen feels boring
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>>108582726
If you want a lot of bass and don't know how to EQ.
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>>108582354
Impressive. Now show the THD.
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>>108585670
https://youtu.be/i1sa50hzEcM
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No KZ on the guide? I remember they were big back then, what happened?
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>>108586063
they continue to stay goated
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>>108586085
Recomend me some, the ones I'm using are about to die.
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>>108586123
EDC pro is only one worth mentioning
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I've been using Halou S35 ANC while running outdoors but they broke (battery and sound output both started failing).
Never really liked in-ear things but I may give them a try. How does sound quality compare? How easy is it to lose them? How long do they last?
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>>108586123
PR2/PRX
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>>108586123
>the ones I'm using
Which is...?

>>108586394
>PR2/PRX
PR2 might be fine but stay the fuck away from PRX. While they might be most polished of their PR series in terms of tuning, the QC on those is horrible and there are lots of reports of massive channel imbalance out of the box. Just save yourself the trouble.

I suppose there must be something about the revision of the driver they use in PRX being fucky to produce properly.

>>108586185
>EDC Pro
I don't know, maybe? My EDC Pro is alright (for the price at least) but it's been a while since I bought it, and we all know what KZ does to their products once they stay on the market for a while. It's more than likely that currently sold EDC pro has nothing to do with the iem people praised.
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>>108586648
>Which is...?
Some KZ ATEs from like a decade ago.
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>>108586648
>Just save yourself the trouble
I recced it because I have it. It's kicking ass, no complaints.
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kz recs are time sensitive, please redeem 2 days within release or else you're getting a revised edx lite
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Upgrades to the Dunu Falcon Ultra?
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>>108587323
eq
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>>108587336
I want to know what are the latest single dd goodies
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>>108549031
>sold out
thanks for nothing :<
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>>108587343
>latest single dd goodies
any of them, dd = perfect
>latest single dd memes
new softears successor to turii/twilight coming out soon, moondrop illustrious also liked by a retard here
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>>108587369
between $200~$300 nigger
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>>108587404
you wanted an upgrade, i gave you the solution (eq)
you wanted an "upgrade" (ie spending money for the fuck of it) and i gave you suggestions
now you want an "upgrade" in the same price range as the ultra
is there something wrong with you?
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I've been off the ride since November last year, what's the hot iem meme technology of 2026 everybody shows into their pos now?
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>>108548221
>Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30
Is this actually decent or some shitpost recommendation?
I mostly use headphones, but I'm looking for an in-ear option.
My total budget is around $100 (including USB DAC if needed), I'd prefer the Harman sound profile. IK that Sony isn't Harman.
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I have lost and broke all my headphones so I feel like trying something new. Which iems would you recommend for DJing ? I found about the soundbrenner through my research and the Knowledge Vibe X looks very interesting but I feel you may point me to some other good solutions
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>>Budget
$30, Europe
>>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Music, from phone, outdoors
>>Frequency response preference and music examples
I don't know. My Chemical Romance and The Smiths I guess.
>>Past gear and your thoughts on them
The only IEMs I've had were the stock wired ones that used to be bundled with your phone.
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Purchase Nightjar Acoustics Singularity
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>>108588025
Bullets are rare, and this one is replacing the E500 for that signature. It's USB-C instead of 3.5mm, so no need for a DAC, but if you like Harman, you might go with EPZ Q1 Pro or truthear zero red, unlike that sony you can replace the cable when it shits itself.
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what's the best way to limit how loud your IEMs can get on a hardware level?
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Don't forget to order you're free IEM tomorrow.
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>>108590083
Don't buy overpowered amps/dongles. If you still want one for reddit updoots buy one with hardware volume control and limit the volume. If you're desperate for updoots and bought one without volume control get an impedance adapter.
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>>108590030
>truthear zero red
I ordered the Zero Red, thank you.
For the portable USB DAC, should I get the $10 Apple dongle or maybe consider something like the JCALLY JM20?
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fair price for used DUNU DK3001 BD? no visible damage ect, only few used ear tips
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>>108590709
$400-$450
rule of thumb ive seen is 10%-15% reduction in msrp price (not from alix) for new "mint" releases (excluding shipping, sold outside of large sale periods)
reduce price if there's not much interest
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>>108590570
>I ordered the Zero Red, thank you.
uuuugh... let's hope your ear holes are not small
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>>108590709
I still don't get the mindset of buying used IEMs... you can't see how gross it is inside... can't clean it... can't maintain it... insanity
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>>108590907
you're obviously thinking way too hard about it
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>>108590935
I would never buy used IEMs or even headphones...
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I don't want to think I just want to buy something that works.
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>>108590871
I just bought the Moondrop Dawn Pro 2. I was looking into the JM20, but the heat issues people mentioned were a dealbreaker.
The DAC is overspecced for the Zero Red, but I'll use it in whichever new IEM I buy in the future.
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>>108590871
NTA but I can only fit well with zero reds. thank you crin for making a custom iem for me
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GK Kunten + nightcraft vesper is endgame.
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>>108587952
Fox technology.
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>>108592425
for me its KZ EDC Pro and Nightjar Blue Hour
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>>108566499
As a Bose QC Ultra user, get AirPods
I like the Bose but they are far behind nowadays
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>>108566499
ANC on airpods is unreal. I'm amazed how quiet they are every time I put them on.
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im sort of officially done bros. got everything i want. still have the mems on the way, but yeah.
smell ya later.
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Are there any good planar IEMs nowadays? My S12s left channel died on me.
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>>108595229

my older music player broke after 2. black family lp play anon
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I'm a retarded gorilla. What are the most durable IEMs under 100 dollars? Or will anything with a replaceable cable be fine? Leaning towards the Moondrop Aria 2
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>>108595229
>im sort of officially done bros. got everything i want. still have the mems on the way, but yeah.
see ya next week fren
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>>108596469
edc pro, it's very hard to break it
the toy plastic is too OP and the paint won't chip or have to deal with a filter clogged by moisture buildup
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why is epz g10 so good, bros?
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>>108596469
don't take that asinine edc pro rec. it's basic plastic bullshit.
EA500LM is solid metal, 1DD and obliterates it without doing anything.
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Got a headphone question:
I recently got Shokz open run pro 2s, and in every review / marketing material, the connective wire seems to "hover" a good bit away from the back of the head of the person wearing it, mine however are snug against the back of my head, to the point that when I look up, or move my head to the side it pulls the driver over the tragus of my ear.
Do I just have a massive head? As far as I can tell these are not the open pro minis, at least it doesn't say "mini" anywhere on the package, product or the blutooth connection. I really like these, but the wire being just a tiny bit too small is a bit of a pisser.
Pic related, it's how I see them fit anyone else.
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>>108597917
>EA500LM
>Scratch and condensation magnet
ngmi
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>>108597992
you have brain damage
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>hearing aids treble
>thinks this is detail/techs
funny
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>>108598022
You have 0 IEMs. Not even 500LM that you're shilling. That's why you're not aware of its problems. Make sure to reply with no photo of your IEMs for maximum humiliation.
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can anyone suggest me a cheap audio player for my daily use? I was looking at the echo mini but idk I got zero 2s and imma play .flacs
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>>108596469
as long it isnt a salnotes zero or daybreak, it'll be fine. you can buy fifteen EDC Pros or kuntens for 50 bucks and if one lasts you a year and a half, that's twenty odd years of not having to worry about not being able to listen to your tunes for a couple days of waiting for something to come in from china.
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>>108598575
A used ipod
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>>108552691
>>108552691
I use the R3ProII, which is like the R1's older brother. No complaints about the hardware, but the software is laggy and crashes a fair bit. You can run Rockbox on top of it, but it's not much better. I haven't been able to lock the screen like I can with the native OS. So I have to wait for it to timeout, all while awkwardly avoiding contact with the touchscreen.

Still, the device spends the vast majority of its time in my pocket, so a shitty OS isn't exactly a dealbreaker.
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>>108598575
how cheap are we talking about?
you can get an AK100II or AK70 Mk.II for relatively cheap. sure, they're a bit old, but still better than modern dime a dozen unoptimized slop.
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>>108598874
50-100 bucks
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>>108598892
i'd personally go HiBy R1 over the Echo Mini if hard budget and brand new (for warranty and support (official or community), you're probably gonna need it).
if flexible, i'd look for a sleeper couple generation old high end player or flagship phone and a dongle.
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is cow fetus skin TOTL?
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this should be TOTL. effect audio shoots 5 horses per case for the rare corduvan leather
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>>108599252
If it's not impregnated with snake oil I'm not buying.
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PEQdB solved audio. You only need 1 trial now.
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>>108601734
hrtfs, insertion depths and length modes aside, the only thing that really matters is thinking less and listening more
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>>108601932
Only fox matters.
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>>108603249
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