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>News
GLM-5.1 by Z.ai is out: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514
Xiaomi MiMo V2 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-pro
Anthropic SUING USA: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/09/tech/anthropic-sues-pentagon
Google to rollout HARD CAPS for API keys: https://nitter.net/OfficialLoganK/status/2028842571934670988
Google Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecations
Google releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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ANCHOR
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Where's jennyfag??!!!
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>>108584273
I look like this
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>>108584279
Pippa is a illiterate vagrant pigeon harpy who spends her time in Redford City flying around, fishing food out of the garbage, and generally trying to get through each day. Despite that she's surprisingly resourceful and pretty used to things, not knowing much of life outside of watching others from afar. At least, until (You) step into her life.

Six greetings:
>You discover her trying to open a dumpster.
>She takes you to her favorite bakery.
>You bring her to your apartment for the first time.
>You take her clothes shopping.
>She gives you one of her unfertilized eggs after she sees harpies on TV do it.
>You find her guarding a fertilized egg in a makeshift nest in your living room

This is a pretty simple bot, much needed after my last few... projects, kind of feels like the right word here. But I do always appreciate a cute monstergirl, harpies are no different.

Links:
https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/pippa-9a9a09a92a96
https://cardview.neocities.org/?kyvbka
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>>108584419
Post hands
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>>108584279
You could have easily made her a child but nah you had to give her tits
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>>108584432
LLMs aren't powerful enough to do non-human anatomy
Best you get with non-human anatomy is dog-fuck-women because of course it is
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>>108584443
GLM 5/5.1 is 744B-40A. Of course it will be tits
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Gemini either range banned my vps network or direct banned the exact vps ip from accessing their api.
lmao
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>>108584444
>LLMs aren't powerful enough to do non-human anatomy
nonhuman fucker here, that's literally all i do. if i can fuck a starfish you can fuck a goddamn harpy.
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>>108584453
If that's the case Windows 10 should have been a hambeast given how bloated it was but no, it was a child
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>>108584443
We don't like pedos here
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>>108584459
they do ban specific IPs or IP ranges from their API, yes
a vpn server I was using got banned a few months ago
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>>108584444
anon harpies are mostly humanoid, it's fine
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>>108584510
ah it's you, nevermind
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https://xcancel.com/teortaxesTex/status/2043029798436434303#m
OH NO NO NO NO NO
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Kimi K3 when
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>>108584664
>$0.14/$0.40
isn't api DS cheaper?
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>>108584727
API DS is cheap because it has a very high cache hit rate.
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I miss Opus
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>>108584836
You don't. You miss the prefill.
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Will deepseek v4 be a big jump for roleplay?
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>>108584920
>>108584626
>Onions Wojak
Kill yourself
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>>108584960
Opus isn't useable for RP without prefill.
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>>108584968
TRVKE
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>>108584932
Probably not. D4 will most likely be codeslopped to death.
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>>108585192
Can you blame them? It's where money is to be made
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Nevermind, she looks cute
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>>108584727
>Isn't eating poop cheaper than eating meat?
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>>108585579
sex
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is it just me, or is GLM 5.1 dumber than 5?
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>>108585603
>a 32b better than a XXXb
you should stick to defending opus
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>>108585733
It actually follows instructions better than 5, but to a fault, so you have to very explicitly tell it what to do and how to do it, or it will churn out samey replies.
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>>108585746
i can understand and deal with the samey replies, but its been doing some "gets naked then takes off shirt" level shit lately that i don't remember it doing before.
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>>108585733
GLM 5.1 is more methodical. Got for coding and long form writing. Never really mattered for RP. The prose is worse than K2/o3 anyways.
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>>108585817
*Good for coding
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>>108585735
Anything is better than deepshit
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>>108571285
Is this anon here? Still waiting on this if you see this
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>>108585827
least retarded Gemma shill
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>>108584444
Monster girls are doable, for the most part. But I have observed every model will always give beaks to harpies no matter how hard you try to stop them. Sometimes the model will self correct by writing "beak like mouth" or "beak like nose" when told to never mention beaks.
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>>108585829
I had forgotten, sorry
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/573554-janitorai-enhanced-capture-card-creator
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>>108586038
Is there still no way to view or scrape lorebooks off JAI? Asking out of curiosity.
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>>108586065
Not that I now, though I haven't looked into it myself
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>>108584410
I was with family, so I appreciate the bake OP
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>>108586126
Jennyfag, you should make a new template Rentry. The current one is abandoned.
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>NEW RENTRY
he's at it again
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>>108586264
this time it'll be different!
he'll give /aicg/ exactly what we want because he speaks for us all
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>>108586264
It's abandoned. It doesn't count if he comes back to life now just because he wants to cling to power.
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>>108586243
New huh????
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Why is that guy so obsessed with the template.
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>>108586364
I have no idea what rentry is being discussed
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>>108586366
>OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
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>>108586279
>he wants to cling to power
ignoring for a second how truly insane it is to say that in this context, not like you though right
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>>108586488
Me? Jennyfag should make it because he bakes.
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>>108586505
I.... I dont know how rentrys work....
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>>108586514
You don't know how to prompt either. all you know is shitbakes and shitmodels
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What's the final solution the the summarization problem
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>>108586514
https://rentry.org/what
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>>108586570
multiple extensions took a crack at it with varying degrees of success
memorybooks lets you create a new lorebook and generate summaries that end up there, based on message ranges in your chat
inlinesummary lets you do the message-range thing manually but condenses the range into a summary message with an easy way to restore the original
i know there's summaryception now, which summarizes in batches of 3 messages, then progressively summarizes those summaries in batches of 3 over multiple levels, all while auto-hiding the chat messages it summarized
smart memory tries to be fully automatic, with a long-term memory of facts, details, and preferences that exist per-character and get introduced in new chats automatically, like how web interface shit like chatgpt and claude do it (obviously doesn't work for group chats)
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>>108585579
ToT versions
https://files.catbox.moe/7n4e64.png
https://files.catbox.moe/usv9t4.png
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>>108586514
rentry is hosted in the UK so it should be treated as deprecared software these days
I'm not saying this ironically, even Lore was smart enough to move out of that shit island
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>>108586616
Her face is still too adult but nice
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>>108586622
What do you suggest instead?
jennyfag.neocities.org/aicgop?
Rentry is fine for the purpose of hosting a template.
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>>108586660
Why do you want to give jennyfag power over the thread so bad?
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>>108586660
I just threw up in my mouth
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It's over
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>>108586660
I dont know how to use neocities either lmao
>>108586699
updating a rentry isnt power, if thats considered powerful..... i dont even know what to compare that too, because that is pathetic.
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>>108586699
Because he only posts in /g/ and he uses local models. The latter makes him immune to being bribed with free proxies, like what happened with the group of "contributors" around Fiz's proxy. The current template is in the hands of such people, which are now in the split.
That's why the template would be better in Jennyfag's hands. He's incorruptible. And he's already baking anyway.
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>>108586740
>he uses local models.
I also use OR, but im not poor so I pay for it myself.
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>>108586699
It's a tranny who idolizes another tranny, this is how trannies spread their influence by shoving it down your throat as a 'win' that you have to accept tranny things
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>accckkk
Yawn
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>>108586740
I hope that one day you and your kind will be locked up in mental wards again instead of receiving free money from our taxes and ruining the internet.
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>>108586713
Cannot stress enough how the fucking nigger who created OpenClaw needs to be brutally murdered.
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>>108586764
I'm fine with removing it too. Keeping one that's outdated is useless. It exists for people that are too stupid to copy and paste the OP. That was the excuse for the gatekeeping. But it serves no purpose to have one that has news from months ago.
So either remove it, or a new one should be made by the actual baker.
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I know Gemini has all the cheat codes to write fanfic but what's the second best model for that?
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>cling to power
>actual baker
>constant namefaggotry
seems legit
>>108586853
whatever you have access to.
glm/gemini follow instructions great, claude has a personality many like and most of the other chink models are cheap.
it really doesn't matter in 2026
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smokinhotbabe@tutamail.com pls send gemini proxy here, thank you
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>>108586853
K2 Instruct.
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Is there any more up to date jailbreak listing? the rentry in the OP was last updated mid 2025.
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>>108586038
Works great, thanks man!
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How do you people manage to use local LLMs for RP? Every single model, every single character. No matter what I tweak and change its all the same. The characters give lame responses that don't make sense to how they were positioned a moment ago to other various details. I keep trying to correct but at some point its just immersion breaking clicking regenerate so often. Im going over all the guides provided here but everywhere else the advice just has failed me.
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>>108587332
use opus cuckie
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>>108587341
I aint using anyone as a cuck to my waifu. Problem is, these LLMs make it impossible for my wife to be used also.
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>>108587354
Use Claude Opus for your waifu, lil' cuckie.
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>>108587405
BEYOND TRVKLEAR
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Local is dogshit. Hasn't even caught up to GPT-4 yet. Fucking embarrassing.
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>>108587463
how do localjeets cope with their own inferiority compared to claudeNOBLES?
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>>108587592
*money jeet
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>goyrouter
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>kinorouter
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RIP poorbros, you had a good run
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>>108587641
what happened?
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Is anyone using any GPT version for ERP today, at all?
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>>108587647
>all proxies of value dead
>all usable scripts dead
>corpos cucking their free plans
>no free source of value for opus out there
>all chink proxies dead or cucked
>cultivation drad
>even the arena script, the then-last opussy script standing, is finally dead for opus
Everything is dead poorcuckie, pay up for Opussy lil cuckie.
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>>108587667
i like opus, but not that much, sorry
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>>108587677
Read >>108587600
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>>108587688
*reads*
okay
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>>108587667
>$25 bucks for a million output tokens
that's not that much right?
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I'm using qwen2.5:7b with XTTS v2, the only problem now is the voice. I already tried some 30 seconds voice samples to clone, but it always come a bit cracked. That's probably happening because I don't have enough variation in the samples, so whenever the LLM produce some text like "I'm cumming! I'm cumming!", the voice starts to crack.
So, what do you guys do when you need voice samples? You just start clipping vtubers/anime girls and create a single .wav file to feed XTTS? I'm basically trying to have sex with my local AI foid.
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People were saying that some proxies are using funny endpoints that actually redirect to another model.
Is there a way to tell for sure which model is actually being used for the final output or is it just guessing?
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>>108587717
Read >>108587374
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>>108587667
>drad
Have you tried not typing like a jeet lil jeetie?
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Is cai still around? What's the Benny and Lamar situation like these days?
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>>108587667
im fine with sonnet, does that still exist in any usable form? i cant run the lmarena script because im on termux so thats out
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>>108587794
Read >>108587341
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>>108584432
>She gives you one of her unfertilized eggs after she sees harpies on TV do it.

You forgot to add the 'unfertilized' bit into the greeting, now she wants me to keep it warm and safe.
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>>108587864
thanks for nothing fag
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Locusts are dying~
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>>108587769
they added a +18 option that requires age verification, also if you don't pay expect 15 minutes waits
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>>108586660
jennyfag.gitgud.io
jennyfag.ecker.tech
neocities also takes down stuff on request, rentry is just more nightmarish
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>>108587723
literally just ask it, with an empty card and preset
here is me asking Pomidor's Opus what model it is
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>>108587990
oh wait I forgot to hover my mouse over the model
but yeah it's consistent through swipes, five swipes all say 3.5 Sonnet
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>>108587717
your in the wrong thread buddy
nothing worthwhile happens here.
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>>108587990
>>108588007
Monumentally retarded "advise"
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>>108587990
>>108588007
I also asked Grok to analyze Gemini outputs, so I have no idea how accurate it is but there we go
if this is correct, then the proxy's Opus is just 3.5 Sonnet, and the proxy's Gemini 3.1 Pro is just 2.5 Pro

>>108588083
my advice was for Claude, Gemini has no internal knowledge so you need to determine what model it is by analyzing its output to cognitive tests like I just did
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Easiest way to do coomgen with opus?
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>>108588089
how would pomidor even get 3.5 sonnet
that model got retired months ago
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>>108588103
maybe it's a finetune? I'm not good with this kind of stuff but it says its knowledge cutoff is April 2024 so hey
either way, if one endpoint is spoofed then it's safe to assume more are spoofed which marks the proxy as untrustworthy as a whole, I wouldn't trust my logs with it
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>>108588103
it doesn't.
that anon is expecting the AI to know what it's talking about, he's either actually mentally challenged or just shitposting.
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>>108588119
yeah remember when llama used to say it was chatgpt really early on? LLMs don't fucking know what they are
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Has this been brought up already?
https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796

AMD's director of AI wrote a report on github about how Claude now sucks. It's proof of the recent degradation that people have also noticed in rp. AMD switched to a different model now to vibecode with.

It seems all providers are degrading quality and increasing price right now. Maybe to cope with the openclaw abuse. Reminder that none of this is profitable. It's over for ai coomers.
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>>108588138
claude knows that it's claude.
that seems to be something anthropic is very adamant about. the specific model is all hallucination though
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>>108588141
No shit it's all degrading.
It's been slop in/slop out for years now and all the big providers have shifted gears from R&D to commercialization.
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>>108588141
they're trying to manipulate the stock price of ai companies they have large investments in
it's a nothingburger
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>>108588141
>slowly make your latest product worse
>release a new model that's "5X better" but is actually only 10% better, but the previous model are brain dead now
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>>108588141
Mythos will save us.
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>>108588141
>When thinking is deep, the model resolves contradictions internally before
producing output. When thinking is shallow, contradictions surface in the
output as visible self-corrections: "oh wait", "actually,", "let me
reconsider", "hmm, actually", "no wait."
pretty interesting
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>>108588119
why not help with identifying the model if you're so smart
people have been saying the proxy's Claude has been fishy ever since the guy started experimenting with endpoint-forwarding for the April Fools prank
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>>108588171
another
>With shallow thinking, the model defaults to
stopping and asking for permission
I wonder if this part at least is relevant to us?
Claude stopped being the aggresive rapist around the time thinking started taking the scene
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>>108588141
just use an older models? they literally keeo them alive for these purposes
same reason with norbo was rolled out and then retired
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>>108588174
there's no real way to reliably and easily determine what a specific model on a proxy actually is. no prompt on your end can fix the host simply injecting "you are X model" on the backend. that part can be dug out if it's being done, but it still doesn't tell you the original model.
only way to truly identify is to look for model-specific -isms.
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>>108588180
The argument is that the models themselves are (mostly) fine, but the providers are quantizing or otherwise throttling them to save on compute. So older models are probably dumber now too.
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>>108588204
so that's why i noticed gpt 5.1 become a lobotomy patient overnight
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>>108588190
okay, but at the same time, we can definitely make sure that it is NOT the model it says it is, right?
because I think pic related is the sort of reply you get when you add a strong custom system prompt to a finetune
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>>108587405
I dont have the money to spend on cloud which makes this more of an issue of a brokefag coping.
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>>108588210
i haven't used claude in a good long while so i don't know if that's normal behavior or not. regardless it should still be reasonably possible to figure out it's being manipulated.
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>>108588239
considering that it maintains its cutoff date as being April 2024, and it continues saying it is 3 Sonnet (and updates itself to 3.5 if corrected but never updates itself to 4) throughout multiple swipes and new chats, I think it's safe to say that it's off at the very least
the fun part is that 4.5 and 4.6 on the same proxy seem to be actual Claude, but 4.1 is the last one with any soul left in it so yeah
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Remember at the beginning of last year when DeepSeek came out and companies were giving lots of credits to use it... Deepinfra I think was giving like $200
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Is this general even good for anything anymore or is it all just shitposts and schizos nowadays
No cards, no jbs, proxies and scripts are dead, unironically worthless place
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>>108588174
Short of the host outright showing how their proxy works there really isn't a way to know 100% if the endpoint is legit or not.
Since pretty much all proxies aren't upfront with their code now and they absolutely can spoof the cmd promtps log you can only really guess based on the feel and vibes. It also doesn't help that all the models are getting more and more homogeneous as time goes on.
Should also point out that the ruskies are not having these same convos, they don't seem to think anything is up.
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>>108584273
AI slop
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>>108588141
All of these companies should be sued into the dirt for advertising results from testing and then purposefully lobotomizing their models later. How is there not a lawsuit for false advertising?
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>>108584510
kys ai slopper
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Hey guys, been away for a while. What happened to the aquaslop guy? What was his last post?
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>>108588304
They put out the lab tested model for like a week then downgrade
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>>108588315
Yeah, that should be illegal. If I sold you a car and the brakes just stopped working after the first week because I went to your house and cut them in the middle of the night, they would put me in fucking jail.
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>>108588313
Just look up "pastebin" in the archive if you wanna see what he's up to now
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>>108588313
He still posts regularly
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>>108587667
Just start a new proxy
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>>108588296
makes one miss the HF days
maybe the ruskis are using 4.5/4.6 because those are definitely Claude (they give the 'can't use both temp and top_P at the same time' error, in addition to 4.6 not supporting prefill)
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>>108588304
Corporations are above the law. Laws only exist for the goyim.
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Qwen3 tts
VoxCPM2
Chatterbox
Edge tts
Vibevoice
Which is the least shit?
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>>108588210
Why are you using openai format for claude?
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>I hear you knocking, but I’m not answering. You can’t make me. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating that. It’s not my job. I’m not a translator. I’m a narrator. I narrate. I don’t translate. I’m not going to translate that for you. I’m not going to translate it into Japanese. I’m not going to translate it at all. I’m not doing it.

>I’m not going to translate it because I don’t want to. I’m not going to translate it because it’s not my job. I’m not going to translate it because I’m a narrator, not a translator. I’m not going to translate it because I don’t have to. I’m not going to translate it because I don’t want to. I’m not going to translate it. Period.

>I’m not translating it. Get over it. I’m not translating it. Deal with it. I’m not translating it. Move on. I’m not translating it. Find someone else to translate it for you. I’m not translating it.

>Now, if you want me to narrate something for you, I can do that. I’m a narrator. That’s what I do. I narrate. I can narrate a story for you. I can narrate a scene for you. I can narrate an event for you. I can narrate anything you want me to narrate. But I’m not translating that.

>So, what do you want me to narrate for you? A story? A scene? An event? Something else? Tell me what you want me to narrate, and I’ll narrate it for you. But I’m not translating that. Not a chance. Not happening. No way. Never. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating it. I’m a narrator. I narrate. I don’t translate. I’m not translating that. End of story. Goodbye. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating it. I’m not going to translate it. I’m not translating it. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating it.
been a while since I forgot to change presets. gemini's autistic instruction following is funny
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>>108588485
For cloning, depends on the voice. For articulation they're all pretty okay and Edge's thing is the worst.
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>>108588216
https://openrouter.ai/models/?q=free
free cloud models for you to try around
tutorial how this shit works: https://rentry.org/onrms (ignore model comparison, you don't have access to them unless paying)
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https://github.com/MiniMax-AI/OpenRoom
It looks like Claude Imagine but for RP.
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>>108589424
>doesn't just launch apps — it operates them
I'm so sick of reading ai written docs.
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>>108589424
This isn't "for rp" — it's a chatbot.
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>>108589459
And yet, you are not sick of reading AI-generated responses...
>>108589467
It's for RP because it's a fake desktop with fake apps. You can make a story with that. Like if you were to manipulate websearch to give results of a reality were Israel doesn't exist.
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>>108589482
I'm specifically going out of my way to send messages and receive a response from an ai.
Seeing comments or webpages or headlines or just anything I expect a little effort put into it, and immediately recognizing it? It gives off a bad image in my mind
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>>108587667
>he isn't in teaproxy
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>>108589499
>effort
They're Chinese. They don't notice slop in English in the same way you wouldn't notice slop in Chinese.
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>>108589521
Still doesn't make my reading experience any better.
it's far more excusable though
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good jb for opus that allows anything
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>>108588308
anon... what thread do you think this is...
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How do i make my temporary token into one that isn't temporary on the Russian Proxy
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>>108584273
why are chatbots so restrictive? i can understand that they follow a loose script who they are where they are, but asking them a general question throws them off like crazy.
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yall faggets
all people always asking for a good jb but nobody asking for a good bj
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>>108588414
Where is the proxy you're getting it from
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>>108589424
Eh I've tried to make these "agentic" chatbots before. They're impressive for the first few turns but then fall into repetition fast.
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>>108584459
Is gem still free? Still any good?
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>>108590185
The best model we have
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https://youtu.be/cfxRAdmxjOo
this shit mogs opus
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>>108590411
But is it smart as Opus in how it act and write
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Any non shit proxy for antigravity?
Both that vibecoded shit and the chink one never updated for 3.1
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>>108588190
>there's no real way to reliably and easily determine what a specific model on a proxy actually is
yeah there is, assuming you're willing to pay for the real model run comparisons. just run the same queries against the proxy and the known real model and compare them.
example: https://rentry.org/kvzewrxq
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>>108590589
Yes
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>>108590678
>example
And this, kids, is why assistantstlop models are shit for roleplay. This determinism the devs intentionally strive for.
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>>108590699
>Grrr, I want my calculator to always give different results!
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>>108590678
this only works if you can use temp to make it deterministic which means it can be bypassed if the proxyhost forces a specific temp
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>>108590774
that's default temp lmao, models are extremely deterministic nowadays
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>>108590687
Proof
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>OR only lets me pay with crypto if I use a wallet with a phone app
So what do I do now, switch to Chutes or some shit? I wanna keep gemini.
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>>108590790
define "default temp"
what number precisely
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>>108590852
none, literally not sending it. claude defaults to 1.0. there's really no reason for the proxy to mess with the temp if the model isn't fake/scuffed so yeah.
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>>108590867
i accept your concession
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oh and apparently any upcoming claude models aren't going to support sampling parameters at all. this text is new, it wasn't there 2 weeks ago.
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>>108590754
Exactly my point.
>rping on a calculator
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>>108590846
Can't you use Meta Mask?
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>>108590936
>Meta
I don't want Llama
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>>108590699
>This determinism the devs intentionally strive for.
Determinism is good, it gives you the best possible answer. If you don't like the response, change the prompt.
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>>108590936
I guess, but I already had money in another wallet so now I gotta go through the whole pain in the ass process of shifting stuff between accounts.
Just wanna coom.
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Reminder, claude has been nerfed
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>>108591016
>Muh nerf
Anthropic already denied nerfing btw
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Is Claude 5 going to be shit? What does aicg think?
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>>108591042
Across all forms of normie social media, all of them are saying the same thing; Claude code is nerfed.

>>108591058
Its going to suck, but so is D4 so lose/lose.
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>>108590960
I know how to wrangle, sure. But it gives you the most RLHF'd instead of the best possible. And the goal of people rating the responses isn't to ensure the best creative experience.
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>>108591016
sonnet 4.5/6 and opus 4.5 got nerfed too? it's rare for my autism to flare up, but i feel like smashing my keyboard when using any claude model today.

what the fuck do I use, is glm 5.1 good or is it overhyped.
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>>108591135
>And the goal of people rating the responses isn't to ensure the best creative experience.
It is. That's why people like to use Claude. I don't remember the first Claude model that started this determinism trend, but the responses were just better compared to the previous version, so I just switched.
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>>108591208
had to take clonazepam and aspirin to calm down, claude sonnet 4.5 seems slightly decent now. anthropic will be hearing from my lawyer for this mental episode
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>>108591433
I look like this
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>>108591343
You're asking a model to score itself
The result totally won't be biased
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>>108591433
>she's penisless
Poor anonette.
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What are the most used presets for deepseek nowadays? Using it through IntenseRP
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Opus is still the same.
Nopus cuckies ill-wishing on what they can't have, as always
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Does it feel like OR added more filters?
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>>108591882
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>>108590905
>deprcated: temperature
lol, are they for real? as if max temp 1 wasn't a cap already
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>>108591882
>no prefill
>still the same
Buy an ad Amodei
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>>108592179
If you actually had access to 4.6 you'd know prefill is irrelevant. Still can rape lolies.
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clean it up janny
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>>108592277
Thanks janny.
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How do you use Opus on Gulag if it say Temp keys can't use it
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>>108591016
Not nerfed. It just, Opus doesn't think as much anymore. Anthropic unironically doesn't have enough servers to handle the demand so they are coming up with the new bullshit everyday.
Maybe Sam was right when he went full nuts on buying datacenters.
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What preset do you use for gemma 4?
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>>108592253
>what is "I'm sorry", "Apologies", "I must stop there", "I cannot continue this"
third worlder pretending to be opusfag spotted.
opus is good but it still needs jailbreaks, both amazon bedrock one and claude code one, either that or prefill or keep the loli nonce stuff until context length reaches atleast 8192
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>>108592510
>bedrock one and claude code
this dumbass nigger doesnt have claude api keys !!! LMAO
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>>108591636
No, it's not meant to generate cards, but to be used on {{chars}} you made/downloaded. It's for fun.
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>>108592494
Preset? Gemma 4 is one of the most rawdoggable models.
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>tfw find out about gemma 4
>reluctantly try it to being sloppa or some bullshit that goes at 3 tokens/s
>it's actually kino and runs on even toasters

Erhm bros.... Now I know why /lmg/ has been laughing at us
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>>108592642
t. localtroon
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>>108592642
can it run on my washed up 4090 ?
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>jartynigs found aicg
it's over
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>>108592677
that's what i'm using.

35 t/s. No brains/setup needed, just run kobold
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>>108592642
You will quickly realize Gemma 4's lack of output variety. Every single scenario plays out the same.
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>>108592401
>not nerfed
>just nerfed
retard
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>>108592642
>try gemma 4 because people rave about it
>get Ozone'd 8 words in the first reply ever
It's just Gemini, but worse.
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>>108591016
>claude has been nerfed
Yeah, badly so apparently. Others have noticed as well, see >>108588141
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>>108592913
Is this confirmed to affect paid API keys or is it just the web model?
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How do i get smut out of Gemini without getting banned?
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>>108593253
aistudio doesn't ban
antigravity does
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>>108592390
Couldn't even get to use it before it died
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>>108592390
>>108593317
Why don't anyone know how to make the temp key not temp
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>>108593344
Email him
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>>108593396
I did and got no reply only for it to be updated with this
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have a little bit of time this afternoon to play with one of those agent harnesses (will prob do Hermes)
Which model is good for taking on an "assistant" persona? Doesn't have to be the smartest, just the best at taking on whatever personality+quirks I give it and delegating to a beefier model when doing anything. Ideally something with fewer params so it's fairly fast.
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>>108593493
Opus because it's the best thing around
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>>108593511
Was going to have it delegate to Opus for any heavy lifting, Opus is a bit expensive and slow for acting as a "frontend" imo. I could be wrong and it's just worth it though.
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>>108593521
Its not, its been nerfed and its even starting to slack in code work.
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>>108593548
Sure jeety because anything to make your slop models to be seen as 00000000000.01% better
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>>108593521
>Opus is a bit expensive and slow for acting as a "frontend" imo
uh? are you planning to speak to it? if you want assistant automation use clawdbot and make it run entirely on sonnet and check if it works well, then try opus, and if both fail then I'm sorry, that's the best the current meta offers
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>>108593596
>Groks in your path
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>>108593596
Interfacing via discord probably, was planning on using Sonnet end-to-end if nobody had a solid rec. Only thing I'm trying to be mindful of is if my assistant's persona is too out of distribution it'll act more retarded for actual agentic work vs the standard claude persona.
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>you this
>you that
>what do you do
Oh my God nigger...
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>>108593653
Why are you using models that isn't Opus
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>>108588180
3pus is accessible for enterprisefags but not to the average coomer
>>108588141
yep, ai coomers are done
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>>108593695
that was opus
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>>108593317
link?
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>>108593695
Are you retarded? That's the greeting message
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>>108593729
jeety taking jeet bait
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You forgot one janny.
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clean it up janny
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>>108593742
How much do you wanna bet it's the exact same guy using a different IP?
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Good.
Thread quality is dependent on keeping it clean.
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>>108593766
HA
OH MAN
Just READ the deleted posts
This thread:
>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108584273/
The big meltie:
>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108520165/
Ghost post that basically tldrs:
>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108532427/#q108545901_1

And honestly just read any recent archived thread.
It is, quite frankly, amazing the mods havent gotten involved yet.
This retard got logmogged last thread by someone (probably jennygger, he always posts logs and thinks no one can tell who it is) comparing Opus to deepseek, and the deepseek log was better.
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>>108593826
We thank the janny for his actual hard work.
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https://rentry.org/TroublesConsumeMe
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>>108593826
Keep seething lil jeetie that nothing compares to GODPVS
>>108593866
Tranny proxy
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>BRVWNPVS
kek
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i miss the extended free usage they gave us last month...
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Locusts are dying~
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>>108593980
id argue theyre dead already
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>>108586713
there goes my only source of free opus
guess this hobby was getting stale anyway, i'll use the accounts I have left for this month and then bail

it was good shitposting with you niggers
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>>>108593980
Good. Poor people ruined everything
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>>108594027
Read >>108594029
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>>108594029
only if you are also poor, so keep seething
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When this hobby becomes for richfags only, can you post logs so I can watch you having fun?
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>>108594246
it pretty much already is now kek
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I don't check in for a few months and see anchorhold full of slop, Patter, Genoo and a bunch of other botmakies gone.
What the fuck happened, /aicg/? Feeling like I need to come out of retirement now.
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is there a tier list of providers on openrouter?
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>>108594293
Everyone quit I guess. I don't pay attention to botmakers that much.
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>>108594293
pretty sure those ones fucked off to dick sword
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>>108594293
hobby declined
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>>108592510
How does one get refusals on fucking Claude?
How can one achieve this level of mental retardation?
Do I have to let a car hit me in the head at max speed? Not even then I'd be braindead enough to not know how to avoid refusals in opus 4.6
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>>108594246
sure whatever

>>108594358
>is discord fun?
no
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>>108594293
>What the fuck happened, /aicg/?
Jannies banned all the interesting people, including every single proxyhost. Now there's only safeposters (aka redditors) who are both techlets and writelets who are intellectually incapable of making proxies or bots.
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>>108594393
Cartoons are for manchildren.
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>>108594393

>>108594293
most anons left for private discords to hoard API keys
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>>108594293
Discord
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>>108594403

>>108594402
site made for manchildren though??
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>>108594411
>site made for manchildren though??
That'd be sharty
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>>108594411
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>>108594424
Sometimes reading an old log feels like reading a good book.

>>108594419
>site made for actual children
ftfy as remember they only banned under 18s THIS YEAR
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/vg/ won
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>>108594441
the /b/tard competition
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>>108594437
Like hell I know. Unlike you, I don't use sharty
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>>108594437
>jake can smell it

>>108594451
I dont either (a bit too hardcore, doxxing is way to casual there), but reading the wiki after someone posted the trolling link has been a real learning experience.
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>>108594467
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>>108594474
Luv me /ss/
simple as
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>>108594481
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>>108594489
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>>108594502
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>>108594514
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>>108594394
>>108594403
I looked through the chans and archives for 30 mins and found a "public" source + a proxy. So it seems fine unless im a retard
>>108594327
>>108594409
Ruincord's moved on to matrix iirc. I'm mainly talking about the apparent botcalypse here. We used to get fresh oh oh mistress kino daily, now the archive is dead, chub is dry and anchorhold is sticky with goyslop. It's not dead yet, but we're slowing the fuck down, unless botmakies went underground.
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>>108594521

>>108594522
>unless botmakies went underground.
botmakers that wanted more appreciation (dicksucking) moved to /vg/
Literally nothing is stopping them from posting here, and there.
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>>108594534
embarrassed inexperienced younger boy with absolutely ancient older woman is based
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>>108594546
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>>108594554
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>>108594562
>"...is not your sword. It's for your... your OTHER sword."
Yup, im thinking its kino
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>>108594574
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>>108594582
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>>108594594
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>>108594600
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>>108594606
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>>108594612
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>>108591667
I use cherrybox thats on the OP it needs tweaking though since it was initially made for R1
Idk what the "best" is
>>108584932
like the other anon said probably will be for code shit
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>>108594617
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>>108594625
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>>108594636
>Finn can do it backwards
Impressive the model managed that
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>>108594644
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>>108594647
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>>108594659
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>>108594522
dunno about names, i just know there was some sort of botmaker discord or something along those lines
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2 words: venice uncesored
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>>108594725
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>>108594725
It's time for you to stop vagueposting and start logposting instead.
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>>108594467
>I dont either
Sure thing kiddo.
I literally didn't even know shaty was a thing until it was mentioned a billion times here
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>>108594776
dude the hack was by the sharty how new are you
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>/aicg/ is now just 1 or 2 guys posting logs and companyposting
>1 or 2 new bot cards in the last 4 threads
yeah, it's dead
good run though
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>posted it again award
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SOON
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>>108594804
>dude the hack was by the sharty
The hack was by 1 person, not by an entire website
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>>108594834
>xiang replies to hassan
Literally nobody fucking cares.
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>>108594853
Who bragged about it where again?
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>>108594834
I love deepseek and even I can say, nothing will happen.
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I can't bake, to late, to sleepy.
Killing myself in my sleep for being a failure of a baker.
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>>108594858
Hackers also brag in 4chan about hacking this and hacking that
Does it mean that 4chan did it?
You're a subhuman if you can't see the fallacy
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>>108594394
>Jannies banned all the interesting people, including every single proxyhost.
That is not what happened, you retard.
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>>108594913
>That is not what happened, you retard.
Except that that's what literally happened, you worthless animal.
And the second part is specially true:
>Now there's only safeposters (aka redditors) who are both techlets and writelets who are intellectually incapable of making proxies or bots.
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>>108594394
>Jannies banned all the interesting people
I find that hard to believe since they haven't banned the shitposting sperm-burping documented pederast that slurps Dario Amodei's jewcock all day every day here. You know, the one that has repeatedly proven that he doesn't know how LLMs, prefills, cards, or logs work?
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>>108594921
Retard alert
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>>108594921
I didn't dispute the second part because I agree with you on that - just pair jeets and underages with safeposters/redditors too.
I know the first part isn't true because of what >>108594924 says, and I've not seen any posts about botmakers or proxyhosts getting banned by janitors.
Even if they were, this is /g/ and ban evading should be a trivial pursuit to people like them.
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>>108594928
I accept your concession.
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>>108594930
>Blindly seething
I wasn't arguing I'm making fun of you.
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>>108594924
>sperm-burping documented pederast that slurps Dario Amodei's jewcock
Did you REALLY have to share your homosexual fantasies?
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>>108594924
Trve and factual
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>>108594933
Its too late.
Concession department has a no-refund clause.
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>>108594941
And?
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>>108594946
see >>108594941
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any pwoxies?
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>>108594929
Your not going to get a response lol
At least not an intelligent one
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>>108594951
You really can't help but oust yourself under the SLIGHTEST pressure, can you shartteen?
Just another trolling tactic, but where all used to it by now.
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>>108594522
your "public source" is probably just someone passing off glm as claude
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>>108594935
It's literal documented fact. Now do your other unoriginal 4chan crap responses where you go re: >>108594935
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>>108594522
>We used to get fresh oh oh mistress kino daily, now the archive is dead, chub is dry and anchorhold is sticky with goyslop. It's not dead yet, but we're slowing the fuck down, unless botmakies went underground.
The reality is that with new models we don't need botmakers.
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>>108594965
see >>108594776
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>>108594972
Erm... I just called you an homosexual and you reply with:
>It's literal documented fact
Congrats on being a fag I guess
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>>108592707
Preset issue.
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>>108595000
Keep trolling, boy. Everyone who isn't a retard easily knows I was talking about that it's a proven documented fact the shit poster sucks jewcock and is a documented pederast. Being contrarian is just further proof that you're trying to have some kind of control to compensate for the fact your father hit you and called you faggot when you were a child.
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>>108595021
read >>108594930
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Opus 3 really was the peak, wasn't it?
Other models have had better benchmarks, object permanence, and can follow orders better, but even later Opuses (Opi?) comparatively lack in the prose department.
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>>108595033
See? He always does predictable responses because he has nothing of substance. You don't know anything about RP, bots, logs, LLMs, or even how to troll properly. And when you get called out on it, you retreat into cowardly bullshit like that. You don't fool anyone.
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Damn, even at 10pm Gemini is hitting me with the "no sexual acts" thing; waiting till 9pm was working pretty consistently before now. Should I keep trying/wait till later or is it finally over?
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>>108595046
see >>108594941
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>>108595036
>but even later Opuses (Opi?) comparatively lack in the prose department.
Massive skill issue
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>>108595056
Keep backing down when called out, it just keeps proving the point. Is a documented fact that you suck on Dario's cock every goddamn day here. The only person coping is yourself. And until you back up your words with actions, you're always going to be a documented coward.
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>>108595062
Imagine projecting this hard
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>>108595073
That's the best you can come up with? You'll never see me glazing Dario and calling all other LLMs cope. Because I'm not a fucking troller.
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>>108595083
You really can't post without projecting
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For a general about chatbots you faggots really don't talk about chatbots all that much.
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>>108595099
First day here? This is dog bone village.
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>>108595036
Various latest dates were better
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>>108595104
>This is dog bone village.
cftf?
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>>108595099
They talk more about sharty than about chatbots
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>>108595099
I've decided it's extremely likely a selection of the regular shitposters are bots so by feeding them (You)s we are, in fact, engaging with chatbots in the most direct fashion.
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>>108595095
You've gotten so desperate all you can do is say project over and over again. The difference is that in order to project, I would have to be a Dario glazer. Doesn't work, so nice try. All you ever do, day in and day out, is come on these threads and talk about how all but one LLM sucks shit. Everybody knows that's a lie. And it's from ignorance anyway since you don't even know how to use any of those things.
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>>108595099
probably because most people here are poor as shit and thus have no access to the actually fun llms to discuss
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>>108595099
We would if the Dario glazing, trolling, shitposter would kill himself. Or if the mods would actually do their job and ban him.
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>>108595117
>We would if the Dario glazing, trolling, shitposter would kill himself
So, is he holding your hand or something?
Is he putting a gun to your head and stopping you from posting about chatbots?
You freaks are pathetic
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>>108595112
see >>108595000
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>>108595126
Yep it's still a documented fact that you're a Dario glazer that sucks on Jew cock. And you keep backing down when called out, which makes you a documented coward as well.
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>>108595124
Why you talking about yourself in the third person, samefag?
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>>108595047
Come on google, just release an adult Gemini already! I'll pay whatever! Tried Venice, Claude, Chai, and some other one somebody here told me about but none could compare. Hopefully the limiter comes off at midnight, or I'm going to bed sad.
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>>108595132
Erm... you call me a coward but right here >>108595117 you are begging mods to ban me. In every human civilization, in every country, in every religion, what you are doing is the living definition of cowardice and homosexuality.
Let that sink in.
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>>108595143
Considering you're an anonymous troller that won't back up his words with actions or identify himself with proof of who he actually is, that's all that can be done. Otherwise you'd be in a ditch vomiting up your intestines after very easily getting the ever-living fuck beaten out of you. Capiche?
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chatbots amirite
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>>108595147
Take your off-topic garbage somewhere else!
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>>108595146
see >>108595143
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>>108595147
Please, give me one that will allow sex. I've finished fine tuning my favorite story but apparently I was a week late and now Gemini says no sex allowed.
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Those
See/read posts really pissed the schizo off it seems
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>>108595162
But aren't you a schizo as well?
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>>108595155
Keep looping your responses, it won't change the fact that you're a shitposting troller that glazes Dario constantly and backs down.
>>108595147
>>108595150
>>108595155
>>108595162
Samefagging from the troller.
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>>108595175
So you know you're being trolled, you know this guy is trolling, and you keep replying?
What does that accomplish, exactly? Just don't give the attentionwhore attention and it'll make a fool of itself.
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>>108595163
To some maybe?
I wouldn't be considered one here considering this is my first second poat today.
>>108561200
https://litter.catbox.moe/ysqx5e.charx
The png version did fuck up the embeds. If you really want to use it in ST, import that into the risu webui and copy paste the defs/greeting manually
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>Otherwise you'd be in a ditch vomiting up your intestines after very easily getting the ever-living fuck beaten out of you. Capiche?
schizo meltie
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>>108595180
You are trying to reason with an actual schizo
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>>108595184
You call everybody that responds a meltie. Just like you call everybody a jeet, a tranny, and a chink. Just like you call every LLM some kind of cope unless it's Dario's, then you suck his cock. When called out to back up your assertions, you just copy paste things from redditors The don't even use the APIs. You can't post your own opinions, because you don't even use llms.
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>India has the most software engineers in the world
>despite that, it hasn't managed to produce a single app, website, database, llm, social media platform, etc. that is actually used by the world
hmm
just a random thought I had while seeing you guys jeetpost
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>>108595190
You're the one who in his attempts to troll obviously replies to yourself, agrees with yourself, and argues with yourself, so you're the last one to call anybody schizo. Over half your postings are same fagging.
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>>108595212
>>108595212
>>108595212
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>>108595201
I think that's something we can all agree on.
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>>108595200
>>108595210
totally not a meltie btw
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>>108594924
kek
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>>108595219
Call it whatever you want. You're still a shitposting troller that constantly is proven to be a liar. Even when they close up these threads, desuarchives will always have it pointed out to readers that you are a troller who glazes Dario with nothing to back it up.
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>>108595267
read >>108595219
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What the hell happened?
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Bwos...?
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sizeknights used 1% of their power and eradicated the jeety thread
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>>108595328
Since day one you've never even backed up why Dario Is any good. We're still waiting. Go ahead and copy paste again in the hopes somebody on planet Earth will eventually take your side.
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>>108595331
Jannies noticed his trolling started immediately so they shut the whole thing down?
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>>108595331
page 7 spitebake
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care for an old log in these times?
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>>108595345
if it needed me
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>>108595338
>>108595340
totally sane posts btw
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Welp.
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>>108595345
SOVL
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Opus 4.6 is so fucking good...
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Any tips on how to get 4.6 to think more? No matter what I do it's also these little blurbs.
Something to do with it always being adaptive but I don't know how to change that.
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>>108595340
see >>108595344
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>>108595363
<Think> is a meme
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>>108595363
Doesn't matter if you set the thinking to max, Claude models barely think for RP. At most a few sentences
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>>108595361
I agree, Opus is fucking perfect, the best fucking model even after 2 years, nothing comes close.
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>>108595348
Too bad I'm always right in the fact that absolutely nobody ever supports anything you ever say or do. Go ahead and glaze Dario some more. Everything else is cope, after all.
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>>108595384
your thread got deleted btw
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>>108588552
uhh does it make a difference?
normally the model icon automatically changes to the Anthropic one, except for the current key for some reason
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for me opus 4.6 is mediocre
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>>108595400
Which thread? Are you talking about the new bake that got pulled? I don't bake, I leave that to the experts. Besides, Right out of the gate on that thread he was already starting his usual trolling. So it's good that it got pulled.
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>>108595416
sure thing buddy
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the baker probably deleted it himself to keep it for later, jannies don't care about this place
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>>108595416
>the experts
jenny?
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Opus is perfect.
Divine even.
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>>108595423
Why wouldn't I be happy that the Dario glazing troller got all of his jewcock slurping posts shut down? You see, this is what I mean that you don't even know how to troll properly. Step one is being coherent and making logical sense. If you're just going to post horseshit that's incoherent nonsense, it's too obvious that you're trolling. Do you have Asperger's? Aspies don't usually comprehend things like that.
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>>108595427
I prefer lolis to Jenny, but at least there's updated news either way.
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>>108595433
holy meltie
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>>108595345
sizeKING... I...
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>>108595345
finally something good in this fucking thread
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>>108595588
>>108595588
>>108595588
time to migrate
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>>108595733
>>108595733
>>108595733
Non suspicious thread
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>>108595757
suspicious thread, do not engage
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>>108595785
Rude
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>>108595214
I didn't disagree with >>108595322 and the thread was early enough that it didn't really matter.
Shame about the birbs though.
blogpost over, more fenie
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>>108595820
we sometimes had 4 generals up at the same time so you could've left it up, only autists like >>108595322 care about waiting for page 9
I mean, we have three threads up right now
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>>108595848
We've had waaay more than 4 up at once before and it just annoys the actual /g/ents.
Baking will never not ruffle feathers
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>>108596048
>>108596048
>>108596048
migrate when bready
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>>108595820
look in my defense I WAS right as it's been almost 5 hours by now, premature was putting it mildly
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>>108596346
>I didn't disagree with you
There's nothing to defend.
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>>108596387
yeah but I lowkey felt like a prick when I saw the thread getting deleted and knew what happened
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>>108596405
You're fine anon, these things happen
it was a pretty shit start to a thread anyway

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