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But without all the good things that come with iOS? What's even the point anymore? may as well get an iPhone. is google retarded or evil?
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>>108995022
The only reason i need android is for gaming. Decided i didnt need to game on my phone so i ditched android. Iphone allows me to do my entire job efficiently through my phone and shit post on 4chan at the same time lol. I also knew that androids freedom wasnt going to last forever. Android is also buggy as fuck.
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This shit is so overblown. All they did was add extra guardrails and a mandatory wait period before allowing sideloading to make it harder for your nan to get scammed on the phone by a jeet asking her to install malware.
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I've been finding myself gravitating toward switching to iOS more and more recently. As someone who wants to get into filmmaking, I've been seeing people make short films with the camera on the iPhone 17 Pro with the ProRes codec and I'm astonished that level of quality is even possible on a phone camera.
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>>108995187
>Iphone allows me to do my entire job efficiently through my phone
what is that job samir
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Why doesn't google just give the FOSS nerds an Android version that works (or stop messing and breaking the AOSP version), and then give 90% of the population a curated Android with guardrails?
Most people who are avoiding the Play Store are probably like 1% of Android users, so it can't be about the money.
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>>108995022
>So is Android going to become like iOS now?
at least not yet. adb still works (which includes adb over tcp own your own device), it would be pretty funny tho if googlel would start charging developers to be allowed to build apps like applel does where a developer license is required to hit the build button in xcode
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>>108995252
>Most people who are avoiding the Play Store are probably like 1% of Android users, so it can't be about the money.
apps like revanced got popular enough that it got noticeable on their revenue, there's no other reason for the restrictions
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>>108995022
>EU set clear goals on what is and isn't allowed
>Apple lobbied them to basically cuck users as much as possible while it's technically possible to add other app stores, but their devs still have to register in the Apple jail and pay fees
>Google now wants to do the same because Apple did it successfully
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>>108995022
I thank Epic for suing them and making the courts rule they should allow appstores and nothing about allowing to download random installers from the internet and installing them with a simple click.
So now, since they're not forced to allow you to install random apks from a random dev, they're just slowly destroying sideloading to fit within what's legally required and not a single thing more.
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>>108995022
not my problem
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>>108996181
it sounds like adb works but thats retarded just for basic use. >>108996008
this shit is a great idea but the os screws up payment apps and gooner games, you have to install a bunch of shit to hide and bypass for anything that has google checks.
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>>108995203
I don't support these extra guardrails but a while back euro politicans were saying they wanted to force google to remove the existing guardrail in the settings, which is utter fucking insanity for exactly the reason you mentioned
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>>108995045
The fact that Android and IOS even hint at controlling this shit is why you should fully embrace any and all alternate mobile operating systems. Nowhere in the US can make them without built-in judaism but they can do so in China and Russia. USE THEM when they become available. Hype them up. Develop for them. Do your part you lazy faggot.
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>>108996558
Then educate them.
This was never an issue in the past. If people got infected with malware, they learned better. If they were beyond teaching, they just had to deal with the consequences, hopefully eventually they'd get sick of paying the stupid tax and do better.
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>>108995301
>The whole point of Android is an open mobile system
no, the point of android is to serve google purposes. do you know how much money Samsung is paying google every years just for android? billions.
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reminder the OP is a currynigger named spammin sanjay that's been street shitting in /spg/ for years and is evading 1000+ years of bans
and then accidentally posted his fat fuck face as well >>108906299
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>>108996008
>just fail (((play integrity))) checks bro
have fun getting locked out of
>government services
>financial and banking applications, including digital wallets
>any websites that make use of the new recaptcha that requires (((remote attestation)))
>paid applications
>e-commerce applications
>anything with microtransactions
>anything with a subscription
>media streaming and video game applications
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>>108997040
>said the street shitting iGoy
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Good. I think makers of phone OS' should be making it abundantly clear that their devices aren't actually meant to be real replacements for proper PCs that don't have to deal with these restrictions because for some reason retards out there still haven't gotten the memo.
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>>108995203
only browntards can say this without a hint of irony. they only have the mental capacity to consider single order practicality and nothing more. they only have the financial capacity to afford android to not see how easy it actually is to sideload on modern ios. keywords: iloader and livecontainer+sidestore
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>>108997831
get a toilet currynigger
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>>108997875
iphones do have sideloading while google is killing it
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>>109000221
>calls, SMS, contacts
then you get raped by jewish carrier international roaming fees
>you'd need to throw IM and VoIP into the mix
>and email because everyone uses that
>and payment methods as well, because cuntries are hellbent on deprecating cash
>and document viewing and editing functionality
>and photo scanning and photo editing functionality so you can prepare attachments
>and a photo viewer and media players so you can look at attachments
>and web browsing so you can do shit like book a table at a restaurant or book a plane ticket
and suddenly you have a smartphone
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>>108996793
>If they were beyond teaching, they just had to deal with the consequences
You can't help everyone, the bottom tier is always going to find some way to infect themselves. If you make something "foolproof", you'll just find a bigger fool.
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>>108997040
zoomers talk about detoxing from tech. if any of this was removed from your life, you will only live to see the good sides of tech - literally no more toxic video games, toxic apps, government spyware, bank spyware.
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>>109002385
NTA but banks around here are closing their service locations rapidly while only having open like 3 hours in the middle of the workday in which you have to queue if you can't use their apps (restrictions apply to what you can do if you use their website instead). Also, the methods of logging in are limited to BankID and they are phasing out card reader types of login. If you can't use their app and get a new phone you have to get to a bank office and request leave from work to make a new login license with a passport.
The few ways you can jump through hoops to get anything done for your finances besides apps are closing fast and will not be seen as freedom from bank spyware once they are gone. You'll simply be shit out of luck instead.
I'm not saying this is good but living without government and banking apps will be impossible around here soon.
Oh and cash is basically considered tainted currency so don't imagine you can use that instead.
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>>109002385
>want passport, can't get passport
>want to chat with group of friends, whatsapp refuses to work
>want to do anything with bank account (transfer, check balance, pay), can't do it because banking apps won't work
>want to pay for something, can't pay because cash isn't accepted, either bank transfer or debit
>need to use stupid campus app, it won't work
>want to buy something online, can't do it
>want to get an uber, can't do it
>want to book a hotel room or bnb, can't do it
and it's only gonna get worse
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>>109002531
ok, hear me out: second dumb phone - a phone that is smart, but low price but good enough for the task of using those shits - you will only use it a form of a digital tocken for banks and governments. as it has the task of running 2 apps, it can have low requriments - like so what if it has 2 gb of ram and 32 gb of memory and a processor that even an incel celeron can beat - can it load a bank app? yes? then even if it is second hand, 5 years old model, with brokne screen it still can be used.
you also get to mainstain a main phone.
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>>108995022
buy cheapest, they cant afford google store license so it unlocked
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>>108995022
apple literally now allows side loading signed by you apps for free in europe, but im sure you dont even know this, europe forced apple to accept other made applications, and you can install like android apps they get virtualized container inside the iphone, but again we in america get none of them
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>>109003200
>hahaha, you're a moron for relying on [vendor1]'s walled garden instead of [vendor2]'s
morons like you should be drowned
back in the day you could log in from the XMPP client of your choice and things would just work. no need to shackle yourself with shitty apps controlled by a money-grubbing multi-trillion dollar corporation
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>>109002556
Network admin but the network is perfect so we are moving to vms because its much more efficient to fire people and automate processes. Yes i get alot of calls and ill get another raise because the help i do have is worthless.
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>>108995022
not bying a spyPhone with spyOS
get a toilet currynigger
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>>109003811
>enable developer mode
>enable install apps from unknown sources
>suddenly 80% of your apps, including the ones that you use for work and accessing your money, stop working (note: the remaining 20% that work are the stock ones like the dialer and messages)
wow, you've totally broken free from under google's thumb, way to go. you totally showed them what for
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>>108995268
>checkbox
Apparently it's going to be a thing in developer options, you click it, click through several dire warnings, wait 24 hours, click through several more dire warnings, and then you're finally permitted to turn it on.
Checkbox is fine, a warning when checking it is fine, but this is a little bit excessive.
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>>109003838
>suddenly 80% of your apps, including the ones that you use for work and accessing your money, stop working
What apps? My bank, PayPal, Cashapp, the banks of everybody I know, all don't care about developer options being on, and also don't seem to care about lack of strong integrity. My phone has basic integrity and everything just seems to work.
As far as I can see you're more likely to get problems from a gacha game than a bank.
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