op is a faggot

>>7882954
>2024 took 7 hours
>2026 took 2 hours
Not stagnation

I know this is a bait thread but this is pretty impressive how he managed to recreate the same drawing without the same pose and still show much he grown in terms of understanding light and rendering, they are both words apart.

Part of me almost makes me think the real person baiting here is the artist in this image who posted an unfinished version on the left and a finished one in the right. Maybe it took him 2 years to finish this image.

>>7882988
>>7883001
>t. blind retards
right is a paintover, mongoloids

I never understood why these threads always bring out the cope replies. As if people here have a psychological need to see every artist improving indefinitely no matter what. So one guy didn't improve that much in 2 years. So what?

>>7883016
Because 99% of this board is seething BEGs. The board's quality would improve exponentially if we require these faggots to post their art.

>>7883016
>>7883066
i've improved more than he has so this is a motivation thread for me

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If what >>7883010 says is true then the only thing to look out for here is the rendering which is clearly better just looking at the lower body. Assuming this isn't bait and you unironically cannot notice this I don't think there's much of a future for you.

>>7883126
>if
nigga, look at the line for the left side of the hair for example, it's literally the same line pixel for pixel, just liquified
you can see it all over the place, the exact same marks, pixel for pixel, just liquified or covered up by painting over them
you'd have to be blind not to realize this, do you even draw

>completely sidestepping the main point of the post in favour of shitflinging over pointless bullshit
Last time I respond to a bait thread in earnest

>outs himself as functionally retarded
>"why is my point being ignored to. focus on my severe mental retardation??"

>>7883010
I know.

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>3 years ago

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>>7883725
>6 months ago
I feel like nothing much changed
Stagnated

>>7883727
>>7883725
Keep drawing the same thing over and over again bro it's clearly the path of success

>>7883754
That's the plan alongside practicing
Thx for the advice
Btw do you have any criticism or improvement you add to the OC

>>7883760
It's perfect. No need to change perfection.

>>7883786
Thx anon
Btw if you want any art recommendations or anything
Feel free to suggest it here or contact me directly on my socials
I'll be happy to draw for you and practice on the same time

>>7883760
>>7883877
LMAO you're being trolled by sarcastic posts retardbro

>>7883894
??
Where's the trolling ?

>>7883760
NTA but if you want my /beg/ ass critique, your newer drawing feels very stiff and flat compared to your 2023 version especially with the body. I also checked your construction practice on twitter because I'm a deranged stalker, you have a decent grasp with boxes but you really need to take more care with using your cylindrical contour lines since you have a habit of drawing them way too thin or as straight lines and flattening out your construction which is apparent with your hands.

>>7883932
Thx for the advice
And you're welcome to my page (I don't consider you a stalker)

How do I stop being a stagnated permaprebeg?

>>7883896
Try drawing different things, you can't have one ideal subject you can practice every skill on, and the bonus is that you won't get bored of the subject you really enjoy. You'll hardly see improvement if you draw the same thing over and over again.

>>7882954
how do I render anime girls without spending 5 hours on it? You can either draw 20 anime girls or render one. I hate coloring so much

>>7886857
Depends on how you want to render it. There are various shortcuts of course, but in general try focusing on blocking out the larger areas without the details. If you're practicing that's how you can make more colored sketches while still learning about color. Other than that just grind and you'll get faster...

At a certain point improvement becomes less vertical and more lateral, especially if your goal is "appeal." You might very well max out your ability to draw certain things in a certain way, but it just isn't what people want to see, so you have to make fundamental changes in order to see "progress." And even if it is only for your own gratification, the truth is that everybody has a skill ceiling, so to create art that you're happier with, it might be that no amount of grinding will ever reach that point, and you'll have to try drawing things in a different way that isn't exactly better or more skillful, just different.

I have no appeal or talent. Everything I draw I have to brute-force it the hardway and sink hours just for 1% improvements. If I spent twice as long on a drawing, it becomes 50% better. Then 25%, then 10%, then 5%. So I have to put maximum effort into everything before it becomes good

>>7887293
>I have to work hard to make things i'm proud of
that's everyone anon, the type of people that effortlessly draw shit you love have been drawing(seriously) for a decade or so and even then they'll still have to put in tons of effort into stuff that isn't an anime girl floating in a void. The grind never stops anon

>>7887334
Fucking crabs, man. You assholes never let up, do you?

>>7887334
NTA, and while true for some (myself included), some people really do just improve quickly and effortlessly. I know I'll come across an artist and think they're pretty good, better than me, must have been drawing a while, then look back through their art and find that just a year or two ago they were like prebeg level.
It sucks and is demoralizing, but some people just have to work harder for less results at things, and art is no different.

>>7883896
Genuine question, do you have autism?

>>7887356
>It sucks and is demoralizing, but some people just have to work harder for less results at things, and art is no different.
You're right anon sometimes you're gonna come across somebody who has a crazy affinity for what they're working with and sometimes you'll feel demoralized over it, but one thing you should keep in mind is that people like that are exceptions and that you shouldn't concern yourself with them. Sure you'll never reach a body builder tier phyisque that the one dude at your gym has but that doesn't mean your gonna give up and start eating like shit, you didn't start working out to be better than X or Y you started to become the best version of YOURSELF. Honestly you're better off than most people since art has a aspect of subjectivity to it, people can like your work more than others simply because it speaks to them more even if they're technically more talented than you.

>>7887378(me)
i forgot to say, if your only issue is the time - progress ratio compared to others just know you'll be alright. after all given enough time you'll both plateau and end up around the same skill level anyway

>>7887382
>>7887378
A lot of that depends on the person. If you're a competitive person, just getting better than the previous version of yourself isn't particularly motivating since you still feel like you suck.
As for the time thing, I'm pushing 40 and have been drawing since I was probably 19 or so, so it certainly gets demoralizing to see zoomzooms who started posting in their early 20s at a lower skill level than I was then, but within a year or two exceed where I am now.

>>7882954
Thats cool and all, now pyw. Oh, you can't do that? What a surprise.
I can tell you're a crab because you're unable to see how much his understanding and appeal has gone up.

Hmmm....

>>7883066
pyw

>>7883126
>>7883001
/thread
>>7889981 is right about 90% of the retards in this thread, you don't have the observation skills nor enough critical thinking to make fair judgements about the progress of others

I've made no improvement for at least 5 years

every art school rejection i get hit with sets me back 2 years

when you become int and can draw well enough, time no longer correlates to improvement. Practicing for 2 hours isn't better than practicing for 1. Because all improvements are about making new stylistic choices that nobody can tell you and you have to discover yourself based on your own life.

What DOES improve is your speed, so if you took 4 hours to draw an anime girl and now you only take 2, then you improved even though the anime girl looks the same. As long as you spent less effort on it than you did before. But that leftover effort you saved now gets put into polishing it and adding X factors to the drawing that you can't plan and only come from spontaneous inspiration.