>>7920092
>Wasted my teen years and twenties fantasizing about making a cartoon show, drawing terrible concept art but never animating an actual video
Biggest regret desu. I'm making shit now but it's demoralizing at 32. I really should have started at 18/19. Now the petrodollar is collapsing and my friends and family are going broke one by one.

>>7920092
But I have to be good before I'm allowed to make stuff

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Hurry up or you'll miss your chance to get cancelled and kys.

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I’d be overwhelmed and burned out within a week. If a project takes more than two days to finish then it’s not for me. Even picking up where I left off yesterday is rough.

>>7920123
you'll just have to grow a thicker skin and be smarter against this new breed of mentally challenged pseudo-social justice warrior always-online trannies. anyone that survives this wave of lunatics will inevitably be stronger and better than any artist before. i mean, AOC in Pennsylvania is 16 years, there is nothing legally nor morally wrong of courting a 17 year old. any accusation by the ill-informed should be worn as a badge of honour and pride.

>>7920146
Notre Dame took about a hundred years to be finished. You can do anything anon, slow and steady wins the race (war).

>>7920092
the events in life are predetermined
if you were meant to make it then you will, if you aren't, you won't. no need to tell people to "just draw" and "grind boxes", what will happen has already been decided
don't stress out about it, time will unravel and reveal which side you end up on

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>>7920163
>t.

>>7920163
Go be a faggot somewhere else

>>7920173
i know which side you're going to end up on!

>>7920163
We would all be blessed if it were pre-ordained that you stop writing like a cunt.

when you're tong, you have the motivation and time, but no skill.
When you're older, you have the skill, but lost the motivation and time.
I barely have it in me to do one chore a day, forget drawing.

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>>7920189

>>7920092
drawing floating head and boxes are somehow impressive

>>7920123
I read up on this. God, how I hate those conceited puritans.
Absolutely cynic to throw the word "grooming" around, while there's actual rape gangs out there that the police covers up for, out of fears to be seen as authoritarian.
The wanting to draw some woman nude thing is so laughable. I asked so many women to model for me and so many asked me whether I want to draw them nude. Unhinged how the laypeople prey on the artist.

>>7920163
What if I was destined to stress out?

>>7920123
Just don't be a pedophile

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>>7920092
>She has been working on that big project for years now
>She's still drawing

>>7920366
damn if I got peacemogged on the street I might just end it

>>7920354
>Once Mentored a child
Pedophile
>Once Spoke to a child
Pedophile
>Once was in the room as a child
Pedophile
>Once gave birth to a child
Pedophile
>Once was on the same planet as a child
Pedophile

I can't believe I have to live in a reality filled with so many pedophiles.

>>7920092
I want to have hand-holding missionary sex with Pomni

>>7920382
>needs his hand held to have missionary sex
ngmi

>>7920092
>the world is collapsing
>that's why you should live in it
OP, just go shake the world's hand and ask them give you a project.

>>7920156
That was built by men of high moral fiber, zelot devotion, and absolute conviction. I jerk off to loli creampie hentai.

>>7920092
>tfw nearly 27
>wasted teens and early/mid twenties trying to do stem
>got in (barely) but i hate it so fucking much, job is boring even if it pays barely alright
>almost wish i'd just tried harder to get that graphic art degree i wanted even though i know i'd have been worse off, maybe i would've been happy
i think my "dream" games are
>a pretentious visual novel
>a 90s inspired walk sim
and that's it. i guess my big issue is that my art skills are nowhere near where i need them to be (i can barely rotate a cube so how the fuck do i learn blender?) and i haven't touched a language tougher than sql in several years. it feels pretty over for me

>>7920446
Medieval construction work was notoriously disorganised and slow, and church projects especially had very flaky funding, with construction often stopping for years or even decades at a time before some noble randomly decided to donate and it picked up again
Otherwise it was often just volunteers bringing in a few stones and putting them at some random spot whenever they felt like it
This is why it took generations to build that shit and not because the buildings were especially hard to make. Let this be a lesson on something

>>7920451
Absolute twaddle.
Is this how professional Greenblat is framing it now?
The organization behind cathedrals was near superhuman.

>>7920095
>used to be an imaginative teen into fandom shit
>never actually produced anything to put out into the world, even if it were bad
>tons of others did and those same people went on to improve
it's ultimately shame and pride that kills you

>>7920092
I already accepted that I will never draw anything I want to draw.

>>7920907
>The organization behind cathedrals was near superhuman.
these niggas had barely anything to do but fucking and farming back in the day. and they had a divine spirit indoctrinated into them, they believed in something. someone deluding themselves enough can achieve much more than a hopeless faggot.

>>7920092
I have like a thousand "big projects" that I'd like to do but IDK what to pursue

>>7922975
the one that sparks you the most. where there is a spark or embers, you can fan it to a wildfire. all you have to do is not let the spark die out. intuition, motivation and dedication are very impoartant not just in the arts, but everything you do in life.

>>7920092
Is there a book about transitioning after DrawABox to a project?

how can someone be 40 and still be so stupid.

You are not supposed to start it, no one cares. You were supposed to finish it yesterday.

>>7923172
Yeah, I'm thinking, OP is another nodraw. Probably not into any creative hobby. Probably not even actually 40
We all start millions of projects only to be abandoned when we hit a difficult part.
Finishing is what's hard.

>>7920448
You're basically where I was at 27 except I wasted all my time doing absolutely jack shit and now I'm 34 with nothing to show for it.
You're fine. You still have time to learn. Just start today. Start now. If you draw a couple hours every day (and I mean EVERY day) and actually study properly then you can get surprisingly far in just 2-3 years.

>>7923231
thank you

>>7920092
Hahaha. You think I'm drawing.

every time I think about working on my passion project, I imagine someone asking me what I'm doing and I can't say "drawing pictures of anime girls" like a retard. All I get from this is happiness at the cost of falling even further behind in life. I'd rather just be miserable while working hard as a poorfag because that's at least virtuous. Escaping with drawing and being happy despite being a failure is the cowards way.

i'm at the stage of drawing characters in a white void. no big projects yet

>>7920092
old man teach us where you failed so others can succeed

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>>7920092
I'm 27, but I can be 80 and still will start my first project by that age and feel no guilt because I am so unique as a person that literally nobody else will be able to even execute the ideas in the same way that I can execute it. (I genuinely believe this.)

>>7920092
I am doing nothing precisely to help collapse everything first. Can't focus until internet is down and I can finally use all those resources I hoarded

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22 and nearly 90 pages into my big project, and honestly sorta regret it. Just cause my starting art sorta sucks, and I wish my early scenes are a bit off. Theres a reason why people do a bunch of short comics before their big one, cause once you start, you learn alot more.

Although look at Kirkman however, he was like 23 when he started Invincible, and AOT guy was like 23 when he started AOT. So many of these famous and successful guys start young. Their stuff didnt get successful for years as well too, so I guess just make anything, even if its not successful

>>7926015
sorry ignore spelling mistakes, at wagecage right now.

>>7920451
>Medieval construction work was notoriously...
When someone starts a sentence like this I know they're pulling it out their ass

>>7920095
>it's demoralizing at 32.
>>7920092
I`ve been trying to create a project since 2015, but I only started to learn to draw in the middle of 2019, still, I`m also 32 and there`s nothing to my name besides practice of box and worthless stuff like that so I get you guys.

>>7926015
>look at Kirkman however, he was like 23 when he started Invincible, and AOT guy was like 23 when he started AOT
Hokazono`s 23 when he started Kagurabachi and today he got an anime...

>>7926015
I've seen you in /mmg/, youve been making good progress
Anyways regarding your comment with any new comic whether its the 1st or the 10th there will always be growing pains. You and you alone are discovering what your world and story actually looks like. Theres a shit ton of manga/comics that actually have weak starts art wise, not even including the big names you listed. You arent the first to have that problem so just be glad its gotten better like all those other guys.
Also, and you're gonna have to trust me on this, people are forgiving when you've made a mass volume of art. Normies and artists alike when presented with a mass volume of art like a comic look at the whole and not scutinize every single page. I've seen it in real time when I've presented my actual physical pages to my Professor. He would always be able to pinpoint any fuck ups I've ever had when it was just one drawing, but when I posted 30 pages on a wall he didnt have a bad word to say. It's not like I was presenting high art mind you it was just fucking cartoon shit. It's like those fags who read Tales Gets Trolled unironically. Just one page would read as some werid ass DeviantArt kind of autism, but when you take it as a whole it reads different

>>7926696
>>7926015
23, 23, 23. So if i dont make it by 24, its over

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>>7920092
I wallow in despair at my inability to pull off this quality.

>>7926842
It feels painfully reachable too

>>7925881
truth

>>7926745
Thats a really good point. When its just a page or 2, the arts a bigger part. When its 100 pages, its more the story thats the centre piece

>>7920092
>floating heads and boxes
>implying I'm drawing anything at all
I'm too busy wageslaving 60 hrs/week for that.

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>>7920092
i think instead of working on my big dream project, i will work on something smaller, that while not achieving my magnum opus that i vision daily in my head, hopefully is something that i enjoy and can give me cash to feed the ultimate project

>>7927763
I need him in street fighter

>>7920153
>Morally
So you're saying you're mentally on the same level as a 17 y/o? "Oh, I'm not a pedophile! I'm just some stunted, eternally pubescent manchild :D"

No wonder you wanna play in the kiddie pool. Freak.

>>7927804
16 and 17 year olds are not kids lol. stop projecting your pseudomoralist values with fake quotes onto others. tl;dr take your meds

>>7920095
>>7926692
Hey idiots. Most people waste their twenties- and due to the advent of technology and with no time limit on creative work, most people are in a constant tech induced distracting haze until 30 hits and smacks them with reality then they ween themselves off of entertainment, and get their shit together. It's just another much lame version of drinking and doing drugs in your 20s now you have to work in your 30s. What ever you 'feel' about it isn't going to get the work done, so let them go because they only way you down and get to work.

Create a system, deadlines are tools to make things exist, and sticking to a schedule will ease that constant anxiety about what you ought to be doing at the time. (schedules are goals so sometimes you have to work your way up to the ideal one, meet yourself where you're at)

>>7928172
>16 and 17 year olds are not kids lol
so you do genuinely believe that mentally a 30 year old and a 16 year old have the same mindset and perspectives?

>>7920163
ok enrico pucci

>>7928219
You should try to get some en rico pussy in life and stop being a little bitch about it.

>>7926015
>Kirkman however, he was like 23 when he started Invincible,
he's a writer, not an artist

>>7928216
thats not the matter at hand, nor is an individuals mindset and perspectives molded by their age but their ambitions you fucking dunce.

>>7928172
you'll have to do better than that. of course they are. legally, the government doesn't recognize them as being capable of understanding responsibility and consequence. medically, their brains are far from fully developed, lacking the ability to reason.
stop projecting your pedophilic tendencies onto others. tl;dr take your chemical castration meds.

>>7931812
>gets owned
>th-thats not the matter at hand

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>>7920092

wym? i'm almost done with my "big project", before i move onto an even bigger one, that is...

3 more decks just need void space and labels. been working on this for a year or so now...

>>7920092
>he doesn't know the purpose of the skills/hobbies i work to develop so hard
>he doesn't know that the reasons are above his understanding
lol, you guys try, i guess that's why they call you aids, because you try, but fail

>>7926015
just redo all the pages once youve gotten even better. treat the old stuff as storyboard. but yeah, lots of small projects before the big one makes sense. i have a collection of hundred worldbuilding and design pages, but aim to do two to three one shots of entirely different stuff first

>>7926745
Don't some people say they like seeing an artist get better as a work goes on?

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>>7938279
Im not 100% if I should do that, I got like 50 pages that look like picrel, although im yet to color them so theyll probably look slightly better

Once im done the 120 pages first chapter, I might just call it quits and use this as a learning experience.

>>7938668
Yeah thats one thing i sorta like about this project is that I can see myself improving

>>7940109
>once im done the 120 pages first chapter, I might just call it quits and use this as a learning experience

Yeah, redoing the pages once you gotten better is just something you tell yourself to keep you going, most likely your first project is usually the worst because its the first. Get the project done, take notes/ journal as you do it so you know how to improve on your next project and if the project is still calling to you after a couple of years, remake it. The important part is getting work finished so you can refine your process.

>>7920146
this is Cris btw

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>>7920092
>He's still drawing floating heads and boxes
My issue is that I get too stuck in drawing fanart because it's my comfort-zone
I need to get off my ass and learn 3D animation