>>7927019
I think the time i’m alive right now is the golden age of illustration, not decades before i was born because someone else said so

anime is basically loomis

>>7927032
>anime is basically loomis
Yeah, but shittier.

>he spends more time rejecting drawing conventions than drawing


LMAO

>>7927019
OOOOH! ROOMIS-SAMA! PURISU FORUGIVU KUDASAI...

the nippies love the figure drawing book

>>7927019
pyw

>>7927020
cool anon, very shonen protagonist of you. Believe it.

That's kind of how I feel about watching anime
>Reject western storytelling in favor of anime
>years later get into audiobooks
>see how simplistic anime storytelling is and now with the 3d everywhere animation is really jarring
It's jarring, like watching a kid show as an adult, they sit there and explain character motivations to you instead of using the medium to convey it. I can see why weebs are socially inept, if I spent the majority of my time watching this crap I wouldn't know how to relate to people irl as well.

>>7927020
Post work

>>7927019
Learn to bait better before posting you mouth breathing retard

>>7927059
>Post work
This board is full of retards just like /fit/ where they respond with "post body" to everything they disagree with

>>7927064
You're literally saying today is the golden age of illustration, post work or fuck off.

>>7927068
Post body

>>7927068
So... you're willing to agree or disagree with that anon's statement depending on the quality of their work? Could a pro artist convince you that modern abstract art is the pinnacle of human creativity and artistic skill by posting technically competent artwork, for example?

>>7927106
Not anons work. Work of the supposed 'golden age' illustrators

these threads are a genuine filter for ngmi like sticky traps for morons
if you find yourself engaging in them than drawing, you are 110% ngmi

>inb4 b-b-b-but you're posting in it

>>7927168
Nice post moron

>>7927069
Post your femboy tits and tight quivering asshole anon daddy's waiting
>>7927168
It's true, the days I draw the least is when I browse /ic/ the most

>>7927058
>anime has simplistic storytelling
Would you say manga is any better? Also what books did you get into?

>>7927019
This was me in high-school. Girl i had a crush on was into anime. I watched totoro and spirited away. Suddenly I was telling everyone I knew that Ghibli movies were just absolutely incredible, beautiful, emotionally moving pieces of art. Disney? Yeah disney was good for little kids and stuff but dude miyazakis movies are literally magical. The background art is amazing!! 10 years later I end up watching Sleeping Beauty and my world view was shattered. Nothing compares.

>>7927167
are we not on the same internet??? hello? look all around you. It is NOW we are living in the best time in history for art and it just so happens you were born in the right time for it.

>>7927202
>nothing can compare to rotoscoped slop
Yew wut m8? Keep seething, your industry lost and is on life support. Japanese animation is the only true animation left

>>7927168
I mean. You ARE posting in one of these threads. Writing that line at the end doesn't exempt you from your own claim.
Unless of course you admit to being a nodraw, which would at least be consistent with your bold, unfounded assertion.

>>7927910
>Disney's Sleeping Beauty
>rotoscoped slop
The contrarian cunts on this site can make it so hard to have even one decent conversation that's anything other than glazing little anime girl assholes.
Can some people, who have more diverse tastes than just fucking anime, get on this fucking site?

>>7927019
>golden age of illustration
Define this time period. The first and last year.

>>7927058
>they sit there and explain character motivations to you instead of using the medium to convey it
It's the same in the west. Only sometimes does modern stuff do this. Contemporary writers are just dumbasses compared to their predecessors.

>>7927910
>Japanese animation is the only true animation left
Just last week I watched a Chinese movie where every background was detailed watercolor and every character was animated more fluidly than I've ever seen in any anime barring pre-2000s movies and OVAs. The Legend of Hei. The bugmen have leveraged their power of mass slavery to reach heights you couldn't even imagine

>>7928075
Every chinese animation I've seen is full of fart and booger jokes.

>>7928072
https://anschutzcollection.org/collections/golden-age-of-illustration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-LkJanUZc

>>7927194
>Would you say manga is any better?
Certain manga yeah, but most anime is adapted from manga.
>Also what books did you get into?
I'm pretty ADHD and I like to do art with every spec of downtime I have so I listen to audiobooks-
>WHAT BOOKS DID YOU GET INTO
I started with Brandon Sanderson's way of kings, I thought it was the best thing because he basically writes the book equivalent of marvel slop in its prime, (and Mistborn is just an anime) it blew my mind staying with characters for so long. After that the entire cosmere and abit of Wheel of time.

I moved to Joe Abercrombie's The first law as I was getting fatigue from WoT (The audiobooks are super old and you feel it in the speech) , Sand dan Glokta is a fascinating character.

I've completed and stopped at The Realm of the Elderling series by Robin Hobb, which is pretty hit and miss. I like the way magic works in that book and James Langton's narration... though that Elliot Hill narration is horrible I had to find the UK version. The magic system helped me understand proportions a bit more.

I'm taking a break because I allow just listening to books and doing Art to take over my life, I started listening at work and completely isolated myself for months. There were a few other non-fiction books I went through as well, but I recently (past year and a half) taken the plunge into fiction. Even then my journey to the Elderling series makes me think that Sanderson books are utterly simplistic, the same I think of anime now- I have to lower my dopamine baseline or something to enjoy simple stories again. If I wasn't stopping I'd get into Discworld next

>>7928130
There were none in that movie. Actually it is entirely unique in Chinese animation as far as I know. Every other Chinese animation I've seen was some shitty soulless anime ripoff with too much talking. It was just that one movie and its sequel that seemed to escape the chink curse. So perhaps China isn't any better off either, and it's just an anomaly.

>>7928229
Read REH's Conan, get the Complete Chronicles
Also Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser books, and Poul Anderson's books too
Old-school fantasy was beyond kino

>>7927058
>like watching a kid show as an adult
Probably because you were watching kids shows as an adult. Most popular anime are adaptations of comic books targeted at teenage boys.

>>7927019
>westerners were doing things the japanese still cant even comprehend
someone tell me what those things are

>>7928229
Read The Belgariad by David Eddings

Don't read The Belgariad by David Eddings

>>7927058
>wow, these translated light novels targeted at literal children don't hold a candle against properly written fiction aimed at adults
>*proceeds to make retarded projections*
I hope you draw good because you aren't getting far in life with that level of cognitive skill

>>7928924
>targeted at literal children don't hold a candle against properly written fiction aimed at adults
Anime is for children? You shouldn't be saying such things in these parts of the internet, anon.

>>7928932
did i mention anime anywhere in that post?
the comment about your cognitive ability reapplies.

>>7927019
translation:
>ngmi
>years later ngmi

>>7928932
I assumed you had made a mistake, because nowhere in the post you were replying to had they mentioned light novels. So hello Pot, I'm kettle.

Whoops, meant >>7929365 for >>7929089.

>>7927019
>westerners during the golden age of illustration were doing things the japanese still cant even comprehend
Name 3
Hard mode: Not animation

>>7927919
You sound like a faggot

>>7927202
True

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>>7927058
>they sit there and explain character motivations to you instead of using the medium to convey it
This shit drives me nuts. I understand them doing it in manga since they can't show everything non-verbally. But listening to them explain everyone's thoughts and motivations like 10 times every episode really is jarring. I agree with the other posters that a lot of western writers do this now, but it's just something people expect from Asian art now.

Western art is just glorified photo copy machines and hacks smearing shit on a wall.
Japan took inspiration from that and actually turned it into something interesting.

>>7930448
>OP's pic
>photo copy
???

>>7929434
As in "gay"? How so?

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>>7930329
>>7930332

holy shit SOVVLLLL

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>>7927058
>they sit there and explain character motivations to you
That's because they're aimed at children, I bet that you watched battle shounen or Isekai slop, how about watching anime aimed at adults instead?
Western cartoons are full of equally retarderd slop, but they're even worse because they have to use the medium as a propaganda machine to convert the young viewers into leftoids like (you)

>rejects westoid slop
>still doesn't draw

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>>7930320
Coincidentally, I watched that video a couple of days ago.
First, every drawing demo she made was a copy.
Second, look at the bottom row of heads here.

>>7930472
this isnt soul, this is literally pure product
Its alright if you like it, I love professional looking art over "soul" scribbles, but you need to use words how theyre supposed to be used
>>7931203
every single one of those heads is /beg/, some people are so confident beyond their abilities

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>>7927058
Reddit gold for you

>>7931207
>every single one of those heads is /beg/,
why

>>7927058
>like watching a kid show as an adult
well, yeah, that's exactly what it is. I'm shocked people treat anime as anything other than cartoons on the level of powerpuff girls or worse but with a unintelligible language screaming on top and flashy lights

>>7927058
>relate to people irl as well
Why would you want to relate to (((people)))?

>>7927058
I really love anime but I hate it when the anime's story telling is like
>Hi I'm main character and my friend standing next to me is info dumping about how my dad is an asshole and I'm next in line of being the heir to his business but I secretly am doing X, Y, Z. Then after they're doing info dumping to the audience I'll tell them to shut up like I knew that already and scorn them for breaking the 4th wall.

There's got to be better ways to write out your story than the same low key copy paste technique. Anime requires good writing from a respected writer, otherwise you'll notice this tropey pattern. Nothing wrong with familiar tropes, but this is the thing that makes me roll my eyes.