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>>7928575
>straight up unfair
Mayhaps, but is it really that different from some fag pissing away money to pay real models to pose for them
Money has always bought shortcuts
Using a PC and 3D models isn't even new
If you train hard and git gud you won't need any of this shit so get back to sweating you poor
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>>7928575
If you wanted a picture of your hand from a different angle... why wouldn't you just take the photo of your hand from a different angle?
I guess I can see the utility of these features, but not for a shitty photo of your own hand.
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>>7928575
what is the point of this? for drawing, you could just take a picture in the actual position you wanted, or use a 3d model, or just use a mirror for live reference, and for painting, this just makes useless generic shit without any of the information that you're actually using a reference for
I'm genuinely struggling to find a use for this
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>>7928755
hm oh wow, it's the latest update. Pretty neat. I suppose maybe I can do like some janky animations in photoshop now? At that point I might as well use grease pencil in blender and benefit from an actual 3d environment.
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>>7928806
This shit is fucking stupid. You're having a braindead machine make up fanfiction about how a person or object is supposed to look like when you turn it around. The machine cannot interpret, it can only guess from patterns. There is no soul in doing this, no purpose for artists.
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>>7928813
>no purpose for artists
I suppose if you were doing an illustration or design that had an object seen from various perspectives, you could use this and possibly save time, though based on what I'm seeing, it'd be hit or miss if it'd even be worth painting over, and may make you waste time fixing something that's really fucked up rather than starting from fresh.
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>>7928865
Yeah, that's essentially how generative technology is being treated. It's really only good for fast ideation or placeholding. Can also be good for solo artists where the end result is more valuable than a workflow that can be easily tweaked within a collaborative environment. You can't beat the modularity of a deterministic environment. With things like Blender or Photoshop, the setup is what will take the longest, but the pay off is the ease of tweaking and being able to change specific things. With generative content it's the inverse and removes a great deal of agency due to its probabilistic nature even factoring things like controlnet or inpainting into the mix. It 100% is something that can help specific roles or tasks as much as people hate it, but it can't replace actual artists. All it does it serve to magnify the disparity between those who are already "in" and those who are not.
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people here saying you can "just" spend ages taking a picture in the exact angle you need, don't have anyone looking forward to their art. They draw purely for fun or for therapy taking ten hours on each drawing with no stress. The big boys in the real world are talking so pippe down
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>get a machines fucked up approximation of what object would look like from another angle
>don't use your brain, let the machine do it
>don't get one of the million references out there a button click away
>don't use a 3d model that is objective in its representation
>settle for the algorithms hallucination
So many flavors of aid and you choose AIDS.
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>>7931888
>get phone
>have to charge it since its been unused for days
>wait 30 minutes to charge it
>turn it on
>open the camera app
>try to take a picture of your hand from the front
>can't see the screen AND position your hand at the same time
>go to the bathroom to use the mirror
>take a picture of the hand from the front through the mirror
>the mirror is too dirty
>have to look for the window cleaner and a brush
>clean the mirror
>dry it
>take the picture
>post it on your private discord channel
>go to your PC and open the picture
>paste it in your art program
>draw over it
>the composition doesn't look good
>have to start again
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>>7932626
If you have a PC can't you just use the webcam?
And what's this faffing about with discord? You know you can just connect the phone to your PC with USB and do a file transfer? Or even easier use bluetooth?
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Also you could take multiple photos from different angles and choose the best one
And if you didn't suck you could work even with an imperfect reference... like if the hand isn't exactly to your liking just change it?
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The problem isn't using the AI generated bullshit as a reference, it's retards thinking they absolutely NEED that new shiny toy that solves all their problems for them. We have access to more resources than ever, and still people come up with excuses to not pick up the fucking pen and get to work. Artists decades ago drew what they wanted even though they didn't have computer programs to create the perfect lighting, perspective and composition with one click, and so can you as soon as you stop looking for an easy way out.
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>>7932681
>it's retards thinking they absolutely NEED that new shiny toy that solves all their problems for them
Every month it seems I have to talk my sister out of blowing quadruple-digit dollars on some fancy toy she says will help her finally kickstart her YouTube career, and every time I have to take her to one side and tell her the problem isn't that she doesn't have the gear -- she has alot of gear, the problem is that she isn't fucking doing it in the first place and buying "the new thing™" isn't going to magically give her the discipline to start.
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>>7928575
its like playing chess, but you have AI playing both sides.
it defeats the purpose of the game.
its intelectual and artistic cuckoldry, with the AI "artist" being the cuckold.