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So anon, how's that graphic novel you've been working on, hmm?
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I don't watch boomer cartoons, what's the joke?
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>>7937690
The joke is he's not working on a graphic novel
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>>7937688
What causes "writing a book" syndrome?
I see it not just here but with normies as well. Always talking about making a creative project yet it never comes
Is this really what separates the GMIs from the NGMIs?
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>>7937688
i realized that it's 2026 and nobody really reads graphic novels. if i want anyone to care about my ideas it's better to make a game, either a walk sim or a rpgm "puzzle" (move box into the correct place) deal
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>>7937700
Having a dream gives reason to being alive.
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>>7937700
People want to be a thing without having to do a thing
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>>7937697
Can you please explain in half-second, epileptic cocomelon scenes? I still don't get it.
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>>7937735
I’ve prepared a Wojak YouTube video for you complete with all the usual sfx on the soundboard.
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>>7937688
I have to learn how to draw first, unfortunately
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>>7937688
I'm not working on a graphic novel.
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>>7937700
It’s one of the big things that separates NGMIs from GMIs, but it’s not JUST that. There are a lot of people who actually do put in the time and effort and still just produce nothing but awful worthless shit their whole lives. They keep writing and drawing and trying but they just don’t have the spark. Those are the really tragic cases.
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>>7937690
Stewie is deliberately antagonizing Brian about the book he says he's working on, which he has been working on for a implied long time with no notable progress.
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>>7937700
thinking about doing something cool, releases dopamine.
Actually grinding at something, releases cortisol.
Finishing a big project, releases dopamine.
Realizing it sucks and nobody likes it, releases cortisol.
In the end cortisol wins, so people stick to the first step.
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>>7937700
You get a lot more virtue signaling points by saying "I'm working on a book"
You'll get a lot more replies and it's a constant job, you are constantly "working on a book"
Once the book is done, that's it "I released a book" once and you can't say that ever again
"I released a book i released a book"
But you can constatly say "I'm writing a book"
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I stopped because I realized it didn't make sense anymore. I don't care about money or fame so I was only doing it for fun. But who cares about fun? What am I getting out of drawing? Personal satisfaction? I don't want that. I don't want anything anymore, I'm tired of living. Its just an endless loop of having fun and suffering.
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120 pages on lineart done, about ~80-100 to go.

started writing it 7 years ago but Almost all the pages are from the past year and a half because only at that point my drawing skills became good enough.

The only reason why I decided to learn how to draw is because I wanted to do visual storytelling and drawing a comic was the cheapest option, in fact I only draw pages, I don't do one off illustrations at all.

I moved to the third world so that I can live entirely off my savings and just draw every day until the first volume is finished.
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>>7938989
>Once the book is done, that's it "I released a book" once and you can't say that ever again
I released a book and now I'm working on another (true btw). They are not mutually exclusive.
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>>7937700
If you had ever tried to create a project like that you would know shit is hard and most projects just fail and get abandoned eventually. Just because they don't release doesn't mean they weren't actually working on something in private, it just doesn't always pan out. It's very easy to end up starting a lot of projects and abandoning them in succession and not have anything to show for it. I guess it's why Heinlein's writing advice was basically "just write, never go back and edit, always finish, always push it out there" even though he probably knew for most people it would mean finishing and publishing really shitty stories.
But no doubt there are also those who just talk and dream.
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>>7937688
dead medium. i've pivoted to visual novels which is only growing in popularity and has long till reaching its peak saturation
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Truth be told... I have no idea how my story would end so I don't know whether it's actually a graphic novel, or a serial, or what. The reason I'm working on it at all is because I gave myself the permission to start drawing pages even though I hadn't fully outlined the plot. I realize now I was really overthinking the "plot" part. You really just need a few hooks and some compelling characters. And even the characters can be a sort of afterthought, arising from the story itself. You get a feel for which ones of them are compelling and which ones aren't when you actually write about them. A lot of people think an "idea" is something that just pops in your head one day. But you only really get half-formed thoughts at best that way. You have to refine them by writing about them. Actual good ideas are behind hard work.

Right now I'm focused on just proving I actually can draw a comic that's longer than two pages or so. My goal is 12 pages (for now). It won't be a complete story, that's just an arbitrary number. About two and a half done. I started about two months ago... That's really slow. But I think I've finally figured out a system for productivity that actually works. The most important lesson I've learned is that you really have to time and log and measure everything you do. The other lesson, no less important really, is that you should focus on building a habit of working consistently, rather than focus on goals and deadlines. (Look up Atomic Habits if you don't understand what I mean) Based on what I've measured each page takes me approximately 18-20 hours. And I've been working astoundingly inefficiently... just pissing around really while telling myself I was "working". So I just need to be able to make myself sit down and work for 6-8 hours each day to hit that 3-4 days / page cadence I'm aiming for. In the last 2-3 days I've essentially proven I can do that. Now I just have to maintain the habit.
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>>7937759
i think this is me
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It's going pretty well, but I've been stuck on a fighting scene. Do readers even bother looking at fight scenes for anything that isn't shonen, I wonder? Should I even bother doing more than just a few panels?
I'm 150 pages in (except the fight scene pages that I left empty), of which 80 are already inked and colored.
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>>7939049
sounds pretty comfy to be honest, may you share at least one page
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>>7937700
>What causes "writing a book" syndrome?
I've never really seen that; where people imply they're working on something (and aren't) or ARE working on something but are so perfectionist (or lazy) with it that it simply will never be finished.

The anons here are just the classic cases of having a dream, but not taking action to actually start working on that dream.

On another note, I've HAVE seen it with jobs & education; where people imply they are studying or making moves to work in a different field... and just... never do anything to actually make the changes to their lives that they imply they want.
I'm sure there's a lot of that here, actually.
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>>7937700
I've never had anyone say they're working on a book or novel but EVERYONE does their own world building and has "storylines" in their head.
I really doubt there's anyone who doesn't do this, even if it's just mixing a bunch of their favorite media together at its lowest form.
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>>7939473
>I really doubt there's anyone who doesn't do this, even if it's just mixing a bunch of their favorite media together at its lowest form.
Given that we've found that there's a portion of the population who have literally nothing going on in their heads, you'd be wrong. Such people, and how they think (or rather, don't), are so alien to me.
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>>7939473
>does their own world building and has "storylines" in their head.
I was like this. You can easily fall into a trap where you end up doing nothing but "worldbuilding" and "research" because you think you need to prepare before you can start on the actual story. Some preparation & planning can be good, but you can easily overdo it, to the point where it just becomes another form of procrastination. It seems logical, gotta do steps 1 and 2 before you can do 3, but don't ignore the big red warning signs. Nobody cares about your elaborate research if there's no story to read, and 9 times of 10, some bullshit you came up on the spot George Lucas style is just as good as your cathedral of lore built over 10 years of daydreaming .
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>>7939473
worldbuilding is for the terminally retarded
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>>7939495
iLl beAt dA sHiT ouT oF u yeh cOk sUcknig bItch
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>>7939495
Most of the people who get really into "worldbuilding" are hyper autists who are only capable of approaching things (including art and literature) as a technical system with formalizable rules. If you tell them to just "imagine things" they won't know what to do, they need some sort of system to stay anchored in.
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>>7939049
Incredibly based. Godspeed anon, you're GMI.
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>>7939049
Hello Calvin
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>>7939049
>I moved to the third world so that I can live entirely off my savings and just draw every day until the first volume is finished.
youre living the dream chief, i have like 50k saved up and i always imagine moving to thailand and just doing creative projects full time while living off my VA bux, its good to see someone out there actually getting it done
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>>7939645
Ю нoy вepи вeлл тхaт aи дoнт вaнт мaи нeим aтaчт тo eнитхинг ин пaблик coy ю шyд нoy тхaт ёp oyнли дyинг хapм paит нay, ит мaит би фaни тy ю бaт нoт тy ми
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>>7939477
Wasn't this a misinterpretation from people that just read headlines or just outright not true?
Like people who think that the slit experiment observation thing means someone watching something means it's rendering in like a videogame which is not even close to what the experiment was actually even about
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Dave Sim and Cerebus was a monthly comic that were collated into graphic novel "phone books". With a collaborator who did the background art, Dave delivered 20 pages of story of the intricate plot that spanned dozens of issues.
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>>7939798
I'm in nepal right now on a $400 per month budget and living very comfortably, with that kind of money you could live here for a decade so just do it, it's easier than you think.

thailand isn't cheap anymore though and they're expecting a proxy war with china, inflation is rampant and the expat scene there is dying very quickly so you might want to consider other options

I wish more artists would understand that historically booming art scenes pop up in places where cost of living is low and people gather from all over the world

The less tech bros inflating prices the better but people seem to think that where those people are found the more accessible the place is for other foreigners but in reality they don't contribute to culture in any way and are only bringing the western cost of living crisis with them

Nepal has shitty internet and bad road connections so those people don't like being here

I feel like kathmandu could be a booming cultural scene if artists knew about it, in fact I've been to 37 countries and haven't seen as many full time artist (trad craftsmen) and musicians (live music club house bands) are able to make a living with art.

While local artists aren't making much they're able to actually work as full time artists (live music club house bands and trad artisans) instead of flipping burgers surrounded by white collar consumers and high end artists, here art business is low end in terms of accessibility

With $400 I can put all my energy towards my art.

Laundry service (incl. delivery) = 65¢ per kg
Unlimited vegetarian buffet = $1.10
Hamburger with fries = $1.25
Buffalo meat dumplings = 90¢
Comfortable hippie hostel = $70/month or $2.50/night
Weed = $1/g
Cigarettes = $1.5-2 per pack of 20
Homemade rice wine in a dive bar = 30¢ a glass

Japanese stationaries are dirt cheap, I bought a japanese made mechanical pencil for $1.60 that would cost $9 in europe

Get your asses over here, I've only met two western artists here so far
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>>7939837
Buffalo dumplings ¢90 for 10 pieces*
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>>7939837
I am thinking about where to retire to. The United States is unaffordable now,and who knows what things will be like a decade from now. If I could live well solely on my pension, then I can devote myself to art.
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>>7939431
>Do readers even bother looking at fight scenes for anything that isn't shonen, I wonder? Should I even bother doing more than just a few panels?
...yeah? Action is popular. Why do you think Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee are household names?
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>>7939853
Go to nepal if you want beauty, affordabity and peace

Don't bother with those white trash sex tourist vacation hotspots
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>>7937690
we saw you, you're so unique, you don't get the complex, lore heavy joke from the famous show family guy which you don't watch cause you're so special
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>>7940377
cringe redditpost
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Whats the best place to show my graphic novel? Its 46 pages, and I would like people to easily go from page to page online, but putting the pages on Deviant Art or Instagram doesnt feel right, but they seem like they would get the most traffic.
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>>7937705
It's called manga. You picked the wrong art style, westoid.
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>>7940881
an asian word for comics
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>>7939819
If I'm recalling correctly, there's degrees to it;
Like some people can't imagine sounds, so they only see visuals,
Some are the opposite of that,
Some can neither imagine sounds, nor visuals, but see abstracts forms that only they themselves know mean something (sort of like their own personal imaginary language),
and finally, some people have absolutely nothing going on in their minds eye.

I'd say the NPC theory is the misinterpretation of it, because the 'blank' minded people are probably still thinking, but in a far far more abstract way.
But I would guess that such people are more impulsive than the regular person.
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>>7939866
My definition of "civilized" is just three words:

>Flush toilets EVERYWHERE.

(And cell phone reception in addition to that)
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>>7940953
The joke went so far over your head it landed on the fucking moon
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>>7940958
People with no internal monologue/visuals whatsoever would be good candidates for NPCs, but strictly speaking that’s not required for someone to be an NPC. It’s mainly just an insult for people who are soulless, go with the flow, always follow trends and what authority figures tell them, etc. But it doesn’t have to imply anything specific about their internal experience.

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