>>220519101
Like, that's stuff every zoomer knows because fucking Jake Paul talks about on their podcast, mate.

>>220519434
>It's a minority language

Thanks for agreeing. Every single thing posted after this sentence is irrelevant and does not touch the original point I made.

>>220519628
>>220518913

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Are there any 30+ yo anons here learning languages?

Why are you doing it? Is it harder to do now than when you were younger?

Jordan anon, I hope you learn French and I hope you did your daily study today
>>220520052
It is harder. You don't have time to think about experimenting, which ones to learn and which ones to skip; you feel internal pressure to be more practical. You also have less time to study, and you absorb information less easily, but that's also a factor in the environment (being around other students all day does reinforce the knowledge), but you're somehow even with younger you because now you know how to learn better. Although I was really bad at learning languages at school.

>>220520052
I was too retarded to learn a language in my 20s, I'm less retarded now which makes it easier but it's still hard

>>220521399
im more retarded now but i keep trying

Am I the only one that is using language apps to find trans women? Just buy premium on HelloTalk and put down Thai, Portuguese and Spanish as your target languages and it is incredibly easy searching for trans girls on both Tandem and HelloTalk via the text or stream search.

Crazy that without HelloTalk I would literally be a virgin, like, literally 5 out of 6 women I have had sex with I got to know on this app at some point.

What is your wildest HelloTalk/language app sexo story?

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>>220520052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yiJQ1dcn_o

I have no quarrel with the Russian government it's the people I hate

Yall niggas wasted an entire afternoon arguing about whether to learn Chinese or accursed niptongue without actually picking one or doing any learning

Shameful.

>>220522525
>Wasting

Argument and debate are not about changing the opinion of your opponent but that of the audience and the silent eyeballs, the lurkers, who were watching and forming their opinions on who won out.

Don't you worry about it.

>>220522693
Yeah, that's what I was asking earlier, where did this beef come from?

>>220522788
Cia niggas can't help themselves from shitting on China or anyone learning Chinese. You have to understand they are literally paid to do that.

>>220520052
yes.

>>220523156
china i s poo poo

I also unironically wish to learn both Chinese and Japanese. I'm already learning Japanese for the past year, when i get truly gud at it i'll tackle Chinese. You should be orientmaxxing too, dear reader. I don't give a fuck about Korean tho that shit sounds ugly and nothing they make interests me

I don't need Jap I can look at pictures just fine

Am I tripping, or do Italians, especially Italian women, but not only, men too, have a penchant for learning Asian languages? Anime (it was a big thing in France and Italy), korean pop culture, or perhaps the Chinese diaspora causes this? All the main Asian languages seems to be popular, I don't want to contribute to the Chinese vs Japanese learners war one thread ago. There are two Italian ytbers I know, one has an Asian gf, the other one is an Asian languages nerd. But also when I talked to Italians, they seem to like Asia very much, and in the communities learning Asian languages, I have the impression that they are overrepresented

how hard is hindi for an english speaker?

I'd figure not too bad considering it is an indo-european lang but that the script would pose a challenge

I have studied Japanese (15 minutes), Old Norse (30 minutes) and French (1 hour) today
Feels good

>>220520052
ya mid/early thirties. It is interesting I started learning german about ten years ago and french 3-4 years ago. I do feel like German was easier to learn and I was more zealous about it, but now with french, while it is a bit harder, I approach it in a smarter, more efficient way. I'm definitely farther with french at 4 years than I was with german at the same mark. I was very enthusiastic and had more time, but I wasted a lot of that energy using subpar methods (textbook and anki grinding rather than reading and audio immersion).

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>>220521498
>>220521673

Alter...

imagine learning Welsh in the 90s and you get audiokino like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrCERW6VTCM

>>220525340
Alter was? REDE FROSCH!

reading the definitions of words you already know in a TL dictionary is incredibly underrated comprehensible input

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> learning a language with relatively few resources available in English
> checked out a two volume TL-English dictionary from my university’s library
> even though other such dictionaries exist, this one is very comprehensive and good quality
> the problem is, I’m finishing my program soon
> the publisher, an obscure company, doesn’t print this dictionary anymore
> sold out on eBay, not even available on Amazon or any other online bookstore I can see, so I can’t buy it
> I doubt many people would miss it honestly, and as I said, there other TL-English dictionaries they can check out
> seriously wondering whether to keep the dictionaries after I leave, or be a good boy and return them to the library

I’m conflicted… I’d be willing to pay a fine if they charged me with one

The more cases a language has the easier those cases are to learn.

>>220526174
I mean at one point cases are basically post-positions.

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>>220525735
meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach gehört jeder der auf trans "frauen" steht in einem Irrenhaus.

>>220526171
Depends on the library but some will charge a flat fee for a lost book, and others will charge the cost of a replacement. Like if they really want to get the exact same book, and they find a copy for sale for $400 from some rare book archive, you're in the hook for that. And they will probably not let you graduate until you've either paid the fee or returned the books. At least that's how it worked at my school.

>>220526171
you should try to scan it so you'll be able to get it uploaded onto digital libraries if it's really not available on them already

>>220526174
That's mostly because agglutinative languages are the ones which tend to have more cases and their declension is more regular than those found in fusional languages. Also having more cases means that each case carries less weight

>>220526351
In ein Irrenhaus, Frosch

i am so fucking good at language learning when im high
everything just makes sense
im only ever studying or communicating in my target language while stoned as fuck going forward

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I dont know what case is and I never plan to. It will only ever be the difference between "A" and "a" to me

>>220528995
It's the difference between the words he and him.

>>220528995
based

pathologic is pretty good russian input for upper intermediate learners. It's very dialogue heavy and uses a lot of cool "arcane" language

The fastest way to learn a language is to memorize a full podcast

my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife

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>>220522525
i dug up some translation challenges
sorry for the poor mandarin i have like 6 months of sporadic experience with it, also its dialectical
Maybe if people posted more challenges all of our problems would go away...

>>218577804
>Easy
疲れちゃった、寝るよ。
それを食べてくのか?
家の帰り道にいく牛乳か買えってください。
會累, 要睡覺來.
要不要吃這?
回家來時牛奶會不會買?

>Medium
そこで最後に車を直したやつがもう働かない。
三回電話とした、でも彼女は見逃した。
いっそ僕に申し話してくれたかった - 手伝いできた。
上次車有修理的人那裡不再做事.
有打電話看看三次, 但她沒接.
但願你對我早講了 - 我會有幫忙.


>>219699722
日本が歩みを電気に変えさせています! 圧電のタイルでは格歩を歩きがエネルギーの少額を起こします。 共に百万歩が渋谷駅のように忙しい所でLEDやディスプレイを発電できる。 利口と持続可能な都市素晴らしく作り方です ー 移動を再生可能、クリーンエネルギーに変えり。
日本把腳步變成著電力啊! 壓電瓦用, 你走把每步做一點氣. 在忙所好像渋谷站, 機百萬步一起會供電發光二極管和採顯的. 精彩方法為可持續和智能市創造得 - 動作變成乾淨可再生氣吧.

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>>220532388
>estonian learning japanese

Are you Livakivi?

>>220532469
really enjoyed this guys japanese learning vids even though I'm not learning jap.

>>220531387
really? or are you memeing. I'm trying to do this right now, just adding flash cards of audio until i can understand everything in the movie.

>>220532388
>are you going to eat that
>要不要吃這
take it seriously. in what dialect is 这 “that"?
every sentence is basically incomprehensible

About slavic-baltic language branch.
How long it takes to reach the 98% comprehension rate?

>>220521673
I used a shittier copycat called MEEFF while I lived in Korea and I got plenty and dates and hookups out of it.
Now I'm using HelloTalk and the level of the Chinese thots that are sending me lewds and becoming kinda obsessive with me is ridiculous. Girls that pretty much are fitness influencers. Actually the fact that they talk lewd with me in perfect English is eating up my Chinese study time.
My bad for the goonerposting but HelloTalk is ridiculous, I didn't know it was like this lol. I thought it had changed into being a more serious language learning app but not at all.

>>220536590

> Now I'm using HelloTalk and the level of the Chinese thots that are sending me lewds and becoming kinda obsessive with me is ridiculous. Girls that pretty much are fitness influencers. Actually the fact that they talk lewd with me in perfect English is eating up my Chinese study time.

Ditto for me with Interpals and Indonesian girls, and I’m a mutt who’s not even trying to look good. To be fair, the East Asian girls are pretty frigid on there by and large, and the the fitness thot Chinese girls who message you there are often scammers anyway lol

>>220536590
Same on Tandem. People use language exchange apps as dating apps for some reason.

Is there a way to join a foreign community to learn a language organically and improve your skills?

>>220536700
Had experience texting Indonesians in other apps, but the ones pursuing me were mostly ugly hijabis, and the actual hot ones were obviously looking for a Western sugardaddy situation. So be careful
Koreans are extremely frigid and cold in the apps and it's making me lose my interest in the language now that I'm back in Spain. Barely any diaspora to meet in person, and it feels impossible to talk with them in apps. It feels like they actively dislike that I know Korean when I text them.
Yeah there's plenty of scammers and obvious catfishes in the Chinese section of HelloTalk, but I've been lucky building rapport with a few of them and it's eventually led to heavier flirting and lewd talk, even with ones that farm attention with their photo posts. They're so much easier to talk with than Koreans. I really think the attitude and warmth of Chinese is very different to Korean/Japanese.
I do feel bad because a few of them end up begging to too much attention and I don't want to e-date. I'd like to travel to China in the future and I fear I might have to pick a specific one and they'll end up being flakey lmao.
Anyways I do feel a bit ashamed about the goonerposting, but interpals general died a long time ago so there's no other place for it!

>>220537001
Congratulations you just rediscovered the Xenophilia Paradox.

Here is the thing what kind of Korean person learns Spanish, packs their bags, uproots their entire and moves to Spain? Well, in order for someone to do something so drastic they often have to be a very alienated person, from their language, culture and society. It's not very common to actively disliking them. Now what happens if they engage in a type of language or cultural exchange? Well, they are often meeting their mirror image, someone who is idealing their culture while being alienated from their own on, hilarious paradox, no?

To become a master polyglot you have to introspect and reject primitive cultural idealization while maintaining a healthy relationship and connection to your own culture. We are the travelers between the worlds, not those that are fleeing from them.

>>220536590
the higher the percentage of women entering into something, the less serious that thing becomes

>>220535930
oops lol it should've been 那 there, honestly what i expected though since i have no where near the amount of time invested on mandarin to compose stuff atm

>>220536384
2 years max I'd say, maybe up to 3 for the baltic languages since the grammar and phonology is far weirder

>he derives the value of his language study from interactions with other people
lol
recipe for failure and loss of motivation

>>220537446
GERMAN GOD
I kneel.

>>220524774
Dude you will have 6 thousand Indians fawning to talk to you. You will have the easiest time ever finding a talking partner haha

>>220529780
pathologic in russian sounds kino

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>>220537640

> the higher the percentage of women entering into something, the less serious that thing becomes

Some laws stand the test of time... an oldie but a goodie

>>220537774
Absolutely not if the interaction involves sex.

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Apparently pic rel created a scam scheme where he hyper-marketed a secret, hyper-effective method for monolingual Arabs to speak English effortlessly, started a language school, charged 5000 JOD per enrollment ($7050) and after everyone fell for the bait, he withdrew the money in cash and fled to Egypt.
It's a big deal here.

>>220539622
Some marketing piece I found in English: https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-123/Property/Breaking-barriers-to-second-language-proficiency-EnToneYo-s-Way-30103
https://www.linkedin.com/company/entoneyo-s-way/

>>220539622
>>220539712
No one in this thread is using private language school, buddy. Having a private cram school or a random consultancy for every single shit in your life is a peak thirdie thing.

>>220539895
I am just sharing language learning related event that happend in my place, calm yo tits.

Just being mixed and forced to move the other country is the best way to learn multiple language, bros. Its over

https://youtu.be/OqYOiQEf03g

>>220540076
Well, to us firsties this is the equivalent of us telling us thr news about family A stole the goat of family B and now the entire village is up in arms about it.

>>220539622
Seems like no one in that country can keep a promise huh?

>>220539622
>$7050 for a language school
Geez. Anyway, I hope you're learning French

I've been talking with ChatGPT for 2 years, but she hasn't said that I use native level English.

>>220539622
finally the teacher gets the chance to scam someone instead of jordie scamming the language learning companies with his obsessive refunds

>>220540626
Wasn't he gonna learn Spanish?

>>220542014
I hope not, he said we're gonna start learning French at the same time

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>>220537774
What's wrong with that? If you're learning a language and can't stand native speakers of that language, what's the point of learning the language?

>>220543308
it's not a good way to stay motivated because people are fickle and unreliable
better to be interested in culture or history

>>220539008
even worse, now if you get dumped the language becomes associated with that

>>220543408
This happened to me, but it's a good way to reject a language and culture. You just have to recognize whether it's a matter of the people you're interacting with or the culture and you can extrapolate these behaviors to the entire population then

>>220543408
You just have to keep it going. I had sex with/dated 3 Colombian girls, 1 Mexican, 1 Chicana and one Peruvian before I reached C1 in Spanish.

But all meming aside:

Go with your gut feeling and don't rationalize your choice when it comes to languages, no this is not a joke.

Don't torment youself. If you try to learn a language for no reason apart from usefulness or easiness instead of the one that really draws you, then there is a very high chance that will end up learning neither language, ever.

Exterior motivations like economical incentive or abstract 'usefulness' are very weak when it comes motivating a person to learn a language compared to those that come from within or those that are more irrational, like an intellectual interest, cultural affinity or linguistic curiosity.

In fact these motivations aren't sometimes even enough and in many cases too fleeting (if they don't border obsession!) Actually, Language learning also requires discipline and good habit formation skills. So, what kind of person are you? Do you think there is enough to bridge the Interest gap with discipline and habit? Do you really think you could learn to love the language by construction a vector of interest in finding some aspect of the target language that could motivate you? Will the available exposure to the language you have create a positive feedback loop that can keep you motivated. In general habit beats motivation and obsession beats habit.

The sad truth is that foreign language skills, in isolation(in just one or two languages for example), don't have a very high return of investment in financial terms compared to the potential time investment in any other professional skill that could be honed in order to make money but they can be a big plus to any other skill(s) you might possess.

>>220544182

This doesn't mean that language study can not be a very rewarding experience, however.

Indeed, there seems to be this strange expectation that the study of foreign languages can't be just done for pleasure or self-improvement. No one will tell you to stop playing guitar, saying that it is useless but this is something people say about foreign language study all the time.

If you take your studies seriously and make the conscious(!) decision to put your language to use, then the first few phrases you clumsily string together might be your first steps into the discovery a whole new world, one that you weren't even aware of in the first place.

Now go ahead and spread your wings.

>>220536879
You are learning a language to date people. I dating people so I can improve my language. We are not the same.

>>220544182
If I went with my gut feeling, I would be another Jordie, or I would be trying to balance learning 9 different languages at the same time.

My favorite pasttime as a "language learner" was watching videos about language learning instead of learning the language

>>220544536
You can do both at the same time. Like the podcast Parler Comme Jamais in French.

>>220544468
this, but economical calculations don't help either
>>220544536
I hate it when the feed shows me this kind of content

Does/has anyone here listend to the konnichiwa podcast. Are English - Japanese mixed things good or is it just taking away from the learning? I felt like i understood the Japanese a lot better bc I would know the broader context from the English interjections. But maybe i was using them to much as a crush and not posting attention to the Japanese enough. Or maybe it just wasnt comprehensible to me yet

I've never really felt a strong pull towards russian it has just kinda become a part of my daily routine now lol. I can't really bring myself to do intensive language learning with russian though (like attentively listen to podcasts while transcribing them), maybe that's caused by my lack of passion for it, or whatever you want to call it. I'm pretty content with just reading around 2 hours/day, doing anki and occasionally watch a video or listen to a podcast.

>>220544923
You have seemlessly integrated Russian into your routine. There is no such thing as 'study debt'. 2 hours+ is more than like 95% language learners do per day with their 5 minute Duolingo sessions. Just keep doing what you do if you are getting results.

>>220544890
idk that one specifically but I tried a Chinese podcast for beginners and it was like 3 minutes of the actual Chinese dialogue and then 10 minutes of explanations in English, the ratio was ridiculous and I think that's the most famous one. I also welcome any actually decent beginner podcast recs in choinese. also I wish I could just download the duchinese audios but they only let listen in their app.

Rorke learning Chinese
Leftypol crying and tearing his fingernails out with garden pegs

>>220540179
>telling us thr news about family A stole the goat of family B and now the entire village is up in arms about it.
that happens all the time where I grew up in appalachia

>>220545404
>Appalachia
Anon...

I can't get taken seriously until I actually do learn a language. I will settle that question with myself and only come back here once I do speak a foreign language well enough to prove it. See you later! (hopefully soon, since I will learn intensively)

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>>220545327
>Rorke learning Chinese
>Rorke getting honeypotted by the Falun Gong
>Rorke getting banned from China
>Rorke selling credit card scams on the internet because he is blacklisted from the only source where his skills were useful for.
>Leftypol laughing doing their sponsored Master's at Tsinghua University.

This is Ben from LearnChineseNow today. Feel old yet?

>>220545638
>takes all the (You)s and disappears to Egypt

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>>220545327

>>220546569
kek
>>220545638
what do you have left to prove? your english is great.

>>220546975
english doesn't count, everybody speaks it.

being able to leisurely read something you struggled with a few weeks ago has got to be one of the best feelings ever (in language learning)

>>220547812
>a few weeks ago
you are much smarter than i am

For fucks sake, I still don't know if he's learning French. Good night bump I guess

>>220548236
Refunded the French stuff and pivoted towards Russian.
I didn't want to spoil which language I will learn to fluency but I don't want to have you think I am still learning French when I am not.
I will eventually post here in Russian, maybe a vocaroo of me speaking spontaneously in Russian.
But not today. I just started today. One resource.

>>220548530
Cont.
This time I'll keep learning Russian even if I do "regret" choosing Russian. It's the only way. I don't regret choosing Russian, but I am just saying just in case. I will learn it no matter what.
I hope I succeed this time. I did start doing the lessons, so I have hope.

>>220547845
Nah this book was just a bit over my level at that time, somehow it just clicked better after taking a break and reading some easier material
>>220548546
how do people still fall for this retarded bait

>>220549266
he didn't even bother to write a block of text for why he has to learn russian now, the writer is getting lazy with this one

>>220548530
That's like the 4 time this month you changed your target language

>>220548546
why aren't you doing your scottish gaelic like we told you

>>220550375
Damn I been slippin'

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help. Im learning bulgarian and all of the material i got was in what it seems like "Russian cyrilic". But when i change my iphone to bulgarian the characters changed. for some reason no material addresses that. is there like a table that tells me which one is the cyrilic equivalent? For example i know "u" is pronounced "n" and stuff

>>220551350
google cyrilic italics

>>220520052
I consider Arabic to be the final boss of language learning I'm actually afraid of having that shit on my YouTube account history

I tackled Russian and German at the same time a year ago so now they're easier. Chinese feels easy.

It's Arabic that seems hard as fuck and starts as another Russian. And Russian alphabet and cases were a bitch to learn so we're the verbs.

I have no interest in Japanese and being another weeabo. French and Portuguese seem easy as fuck but time consuming and I only benefit from Brazilian bundas

Like another anonymous said now that I'm 30 my brain is fully developed and am less retarded. Studying was just impossible in my 20s

>>220524774
Lmao showing them love is the greatest money idea on earth

Business is alive in India. Too bad I'm busy for that endeavor. I just might learn Hindi

>>220526171
Preferably buy it from the library or just steal it nigga

My dad would have printed the pages like the other Anon said

Be a man

>>220536590
desu as someone whos lived in korea for years MEEFF has like the worst quality of girls, I never used the app but all the weird foreigner chasers i met in real life used that app, just weird low-quality hoes.
Hellotalk is better for quality, but meeting girls in real life social circles lets you meet like actual normal korean girls

Finally finished Le Rouge et Le Noir
I read the first half a year ago but lost interest for some reason but now I managed to finish it
I think that's the longest book I've read in French so far but then I'm afraid of commitment

>>220552699
Good job friend

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>>220551350

>>220540801
Pray to Allah that Iran bombs OpenAI for failing you

>>220552699
That's an impressive achievement. What's your current level in french?

>>220520052
Of course why wouldn't you be able to learn new things as an adult? If anything it's easier because I can focus on languages I enjoy (JP/FR) instead of G*rman.
I started Japanese in my thirties and can read novels and watch television pretty comfortably without subs after a couple of years.

My pronunciation and overall flow in English isn't great. I've been reading audiobooks and shadowing catch phrases and idiomatic sentences, but the results are slow and minimal. Any advice?
I've also started to notice that my French pronunciation training seems to be confusing my English pronunciation, or am I tripping and it's impossible?
>>220557491
what's wrong with German? Also, do you have compulsory German in schools?
>>220548530
That's a bummer

>>220558801
I don't think there is anything in particular that is so terrible about German. It's rather a combination of not being interested in anything produced in that language and being forced through German classes all the way through my school years. Yes I could have picked French or Spanish instead but then I would have likely ended up hating them instead.

>>220559827
This is exactly my story, only with French instead of German. But after detoxing from "learning" the language in school, I became a Francophile. I also hated Italian, which I now also like, but that's because I have Italians in the family and I was irritated by their Pol-talian / Ital-ish.

is there anything I can do to just get paid to study Chinese full-time in China
should I be aiming to be a Spanish professor in China or what. I'm guessing the Chinese government scholarships for Chinese teaching stuff and those weird stuff are deadends aimed for fresh graduates. I'm a loser in my 30s.

>>220561821
the cut off was 35 iirc

same question as >>220562139 but for other languages. It's strange, considering how good free study materials are available here, that no one here has come up with any strategies for getting the most out benefits of language learning. All I know is that Russia used to hand out scholarships for international students

>>220561821
probably spanish language teacher, you need actual certs to be a professor and experience
the age limits are:
undergrad 30
masters 35
doctorate 40

>>220561821
There is an entire jungle of scholarships from the Chinese government, provinces and university level. You have to search through the websites of the Chinese government/ different Confucius institutes what exactly applies to you, in fact you can just simply shoot them your email you know. There might be some guides on YouTube. Also Taiwan has their own scholarship program too.

>>220563298
>>220563060
idk I feel like I keep delaying getting a real job and career, I only have experience with online gigs translating but that has dried out in the past few years. from 1.2k€ a month, to 500, to none at all lol.
I'll consider the Chinese govt masters stuff and teaching Spanish there but I fear I might end up poor (if I don't fish a rich Chinese heiress)

>>220565364
>mid 30s
>only have experience with translation
nigga you gonna be poor no matter what if you don't do something right now

>>220565507
tell me what to do. Everyone in Spain just wants to be a public office worker. I was looking into international commerce titles and shit because I met someone a while ago that has a cozy well paid job with a container/shipping company, and I thought it might be compatible with the Asian languages...

>>220565364
>but that has dried out in the past few years. from 1.2k€ a month, to 500, to none at all lol.
thats pretty much true for all online work nowadays. I used to make and sell asset libraries and do freelance work and made like 50-60k a year, which was a very comfortable income living in Europe and SEA. now I get no freelance work at all and my passive income has dried up to 300$/month

>>220565921
-Enroll into a economics or soft science degree at UNED
-apply for the one year Chinese scholarship
-do an internship at the World Tourism Organization in Madrid

>>220565969
I don't have a complete lack of degrees. I have a degree in Modern Languages (lmaooo) and soon a master's in Spanish Teaching. no way I'll do another full 4-year degree. I should probably do a economics/logistics thing online. But thanks for the ideas.
for a safe job in Spain I know I can do the English teacher route but it'll feel like spiritually roping

>>220566224
UNED Master's are 1 year.

You can try doing a 1 year economics degree while living in China and then apply for jobs in international business with relations to China like at that CATL plant in Saragossa.

>>220566295
Isn't UNED the distance learning Spanish uni? I thought these distance learning unis were of dubious quality

>>220566438
no, UNED is actually quite prestigious and it's famous for being tough as fuck. You have to go in person for exams and other things (or to a Spanish embassy if you're abroad). Other online universities are considered like paying for a degree but UNED has the opposite fame (at least in most areas I've heard about it).
>>220566295
thanks. There's a master's in "investigación en economía" that includes stuff like online business, might be relevant for china-asian market stuff... I guess I should start immersing in math and basic stats now too...

>>220566517
This one accepts students with a language background (filología):

https://www.uned.es/universidad/inicio/en/estudios/masteres/master-universitario-en-la-espana-contemporanea-en-el-contexto-internacional.html?idContenido=4

So it might be useful to pivot away from your 'education profile'.

>>220566438
It's a distance university but it is THE distance university, the public and national distance university of Spain. Public distance universities can have a pretty good reputation like in Germany because they don't sell you a degree and are difficult.

>>220566603
This one as well:

https://www.uned.es/universidad/inicio/en/estudios/masteres/master-universitario-en-comunicacion-cultura-sociedad-y-politica.html

>>220566603
>>220566788
ty for the tips but honestly this kind of masters feel like it'd just be like more useless humanities degrees for the collection. I don't know how a master's in 'Spain in the modern world' or one in cultural communication could help me land a job in Asia or something related with languages
thx for caring but sry for hijacking the thread, I'm a bit ashamed that I'm posting about my personal life outside of /adv/

>>220566649
I heard about Hagen University. I have an EU country citizenship and I am searching a distance uni in Europe to study next year when I move to the country I am citizen, but I can't find a cheap English speaking one for me.

>>220566889
I mean you are completely correct, they are only marginally better than your current degrees if you want to pivot away from education.

I mean if you don't mind taking the plunge you could just straight up apply at a English-speaking Master's degree in something like International Relations in China after clearing the HSK 3 or something. Even those at elite universities have somewhat low requirements and offer scholarships because China wants westerners to come to China. I have seen the most ridiculous losers get into Fudan and PKU just based on them being a white foreigner and they often end up being the only European in their program.

>>220567031
It's considered to be pretty good but pretty tough especially in STEM, some would say it's even more difficult than a regular university but it's incredibly cheap for what you get. There are lots of politicians and elite athletes that have done their degrees there. The issue is that it's German speaking with no English programs. I don't know whether you speak German but I feel like learning Spanish just to attend UNED would be way easier. I think tuition is comparable between the two.

There actually is a pretty funny phenomenon going on with these scholarship and English-language programs, there are a whole bunch of overseas Chinese people with foreign citizenships that basically try to loophole themselves into these programs that would otherwise never make it in via the domestic gaokao route.

Holy Cow, it's a great idea. Studying in your TL would be kino
>>220566438
It has a better reputation than my former university :(

>>220567489
chatgpt is gaslighting me into believing that reaching HSK4 in 1 year and then applying for chinese government scholarship of 1 year chinese training + 2-3 years of masters in international commerce would be a good option.
Can't wait to waste my 30s with this youthful daydreaming :3 (please god let me get some actual income and jobs with Spanish teaching...)

>>220568080
You don't have to commit to anything. Just do the scholarship and look how you like it. You can always give English/Spanish lessons as a side hustle for easy money.

>dreaming leftists seething at based comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamingspanish/comments/1sf1ubs/ds_is_soooo_bad_at_deleting_comments/
keep posting comments based langers

i bet none of you cucklords have actually learned your target languages to proficiency

>>220568429
I literally have 2 C2 certs and one C1 cert.

>>220568446
How long it took to each certificate?

>>220568418
Posting racist and chud stuff in a educational environment is gross actually

>>220568531
It's hard so say, since I started learning L1 and L2 in elementary school and high school respectively, so +10 years for L1 and +8 years for L2, however I was maybe A2 for L2 when I graduated. L3 took me like 3 years.

>>220568429
passed TOPIK 6 (Korean) but shit already expired and I probably won't be able to reach that until I have a reason for it again. I can probably pass TOPIK 5 by default without preparation.
to be fair the Korean exams don't even test speaking. realistically I'm B2-C1 in comprehension and B1 in production

>>220568621
>passed TOPIK 6 (Korean) but shit already expired

I mean exployers don't care about expiration date if it's something you are putting on your CV. That shit is only meant for positions where having a non-expired cert is mandatory. Though still pretty scammy.

>>220568429
>cucklords

>>220568656
thanks german anon, you're very kind and helpful. So what languages are you actually learning nowadays, did you do any interesting immersion today?

How do i leaen navaho?

i was a fool for not believing krashen

>>220568959
You already have a social science Bachelor's and soon a Master's and benefit JBW. You have experience abroad. You have certified fluency in three relevant to very relevant languages English/Spanish/Korean and are en route to have a minimum Chinese level. If you can't find a good job after graduation, just fucking go for it, it's not like things are getting better anytime soon, in fact very likely they are getting worse looking at the current state of the world.

>did you do any interesting immersion today?
Well, I have like a daily routine and did a 1 hour call with one of my tandem partners in my L4 on top of that.

>>220569081
It's ok. Repent and we'll embrace you like a brother. We'll forgive all of your sins and you'll become one of us.

>>220569081
why? what did it happen?

>>220569081
You either go Krashen, or you go crashin'

My father side of family are from immigrants and they somehow learned Portuguese without any formal teaching. Iam truly curious on how they mastered the language by just immersion

Is there a way to sentence mine and use a dictionary pop up on video games?

>>220570463
no but I built software that does exactly this and it will be available soon

>>220568429
I have hsk6 chinese

>>220570463
I've seen two pieces of software for this, but I haven't used either of them so I can't speak to how well they work:
https://github.com/matt-m-o/YomiNinja
https://github.com/bpwhelan/GameSentenceMiner
The second seems to be in much more active development.

>>220570463
My move is dictionary in steam browser, borderless screen and then for sentences i use windows snipper, put the screenshots of sentences in paint and then use imagetotext on the whole paint window to get all the sentences in one go. If you want audio then i dont know, maybe use nvidias replay function?

>>220570463
ive always just had a second screen with google translate open and type in words

i wonder if thats not better for memorization anyways since you have to take in the word well enough to type it out accurately

>>220572512
>using google translate as a dictionary
it was over before it even started

>>220520052
34 yr old, checking in.

>why
Because I hate the US and hope to leave it someday, and because I find languages to be interesting. I honestly stay up at night and think about things like, "who were the first niggas sitting around a fire that nudged their fellow tribesmen and said, 'yo--stick!'?" I imagine his buddies looked around and nodded every time he picked up an object and named it.

"Stick."
"Ohh."
"Fire."
"Ohhhhhh!"
rofl i'm such a retard unironically

>harder
Yes and no. I guess with age comes diminishing ability, but I also don't have some white boomer retard teaching me Japanese in a classroom in my hometown. Hopefully the Navy will go better when I join that for languages.

>>220568851
Uh, >>220568557 is unironically correct. It's okay to meme and stuff, and some racism (if it's accurate) is okay in moderation, but when it comes to the actual language grind, keep the weird shit at home. If you can't manage that much with your pathetic existence, it may be time to consider suicide.

just what kind of "racist and fascist" stuff are people commenting on ds

>>220574056
>and some racism (if it's accurate) is okay in moderation
lol

>>220532388
>それを食べてくのか?
それを食べるのか (more naturally, colloquially, in finite positions, それ、食べる(の)?)
〜いく is used for habitual actions or doing something on the move
>家の帰り道にいく牛乳か買えってください。
帰りに牛乳を買ってきてください
wtf is going on in your sentence
帰りに is an adverb for on the way home

>そこで最後に車を直したやつがもう働かない。
前回車を直したやつはもうそこで働いていない
最後 only means last in sequence, not last time
use 〜ている for expressing state
>三回電話とした、でも彼女は見逃した。
三回電話したけど、(彼女に)無視された
Generally speaking, favour suffixed forms
>いっそ僕に申し話してくれたかった - 手伝いできた
もっと早く言ってくれれば手伝えたのに
No idea what you're trying to say

>>218577804
我累了。 我上床睡覺
你吃不吃那個?
你回家的時候買來牛奶吧

上次修理我車的人已經不工作那裡
雖然我三次試打電話,但是她無視我
我希望你更早告訴我,我就能幫助
對不起,我聽不懂你。請一點慢又説

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/lang/ help me, I'm about to commit to spending 2 hours of my 6 hours of free time every day just learning languages.
I just started getting mad / bored at everything and this is the only thing left.

>>220535001
He's telling the truth, this is an extremely fast way, possibly the fastest
>Need to hit the word 12 times at least, probably much more for most of them honestly, this is just what some scientist said
>Gradually understanding ramps up
>Your comprehensibility skyrockets watching said movie / reading said book / ect
>You start grasping things you didn't even know were there before, your brain knows the words and starts wondering why they're used there and put together that way
>Grammar starts approaching comprehensibility
You just pick up more, this happens even in your native language, but it especially happens in your TL. I've listened to Alice in Wonderland like 10 times at least for my TL.

9,000 words in the average movie script, so it's not really as time-efficient as other methods when it comes to word count or unique word count but it's more important you like it and can watch it again and again than anything else.

>>220576287
make sure its an easy language or else itll take you 10 years

>>220576367
>just spend 800 hours watching the same show over and over its fast af o algo

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>>220576371
I'm already like 1.5 languages in I just thought I was done learning them for the most part, but I get mad at everything else being gay and boring.
>>220576392
It is fast, it's what babies do and why they watch the same show over and over.

>>220540801
I find Grok to be a much better AI than ChatGPT for pretty much everything.

>>220576461
opus and codex are the only useful llms

>>220576189
>我累了。 我上床睡覺
more natural: 我要睡觉, shows intention. 上床 can mean to have sex so don't use it
>你吃不吃那個?
more natural: 那个你吃不吃
>你回家的時候買來牛奶吧
this isn't phrased as a question. end with 可以吗 or 行吗 is better. 你回家路上买瓶牛奶可以吗?

>上次修理我車的人已經不工作那裡
location before verb. 已经不在那里工作(/上班)了
>雖然我三次試打電話,但是她無視我
打//电话 is a split verb (v-o pair), so measure words go in the middle. (虽然我)打了三次电话
you forgot "still“ 还 and 无视 is a bit too formal, most people would use 不理. 但她还不理我
>我希望你更早告訴我,我就能幫助
link the two clauses with 那样
>對不起,我聽不懂你。請一點慢又説
对不起,(你说得太快)我没听懂, 请说慢一点。

>>220519344
remove that picture of me

>>220579003
thank you thank you

>上床 can mean to have sex so don't use it
lol. like, never?

>已经不在那里工作(/上班)了
what about 已经在那里不工作了 ?

>this isn't phrased as a question. end with 可以吗 or 行吗 is better. 你回家路上买瓶牛奶可以吗?
I actually was wondering when writing that, is it common to use a question for soft commands in chinese? Cos to me, "can you get some milk" isn't really a question pragmatically even if it is syntactically, it's a soft command
I ask because in english, making things questions is a way of being softer / politer, and making random shit questions is a common error that english speakers make when speaking japanese because that's not really common in japanese

Is Chinese actually babby tier easy? It seems like you basically just string words together like a caveman.
t. tried it in memelingo for like 10 minutes to impress some random chink grill on the internet

>>220579679
>lol. like, never?
yes, if you want to say "get into bed" or something of that sort just say 躺下 (lie down)

>已经在那里不工作了
在 grammatically is a verb, so it is usually negative+在+verb-phrase when the verb is intransitive
idk how to properly explain this but 在那里不工作了 is not correct, I can tell

>question for soft commands
when I think about it a bit, it's usually a question
like 方便吗 (is it convenient) 你看可以吗 (if it's okay with you)
otherwise it would just be phrased as an imperative 你回家路上记得买瓶牛奶吧
both forms are common

>>220579796
Chinese has a low barrier to entry because you don't have to learn any new concepts from the very beginning like new word order, cases, conjugations etc
and once you know a lot it is easy to get better
BUT making the jump from simple set phrases to proper speech is very difficult and most people fail there

>>220554151
>>220551407
Thanks m8

>>220579796
It seems like an incredibly difficult language to me. I don't speak it but basically everything that is a pain in the ass in Japanese is borrowed from Chinese. Especially in advanced level spoken language were all those Chinese loan words become a mess of homophones each with a dozen or more words that sound the same.
At least in Japanese being placed in the context in sentences with Japanese origin words makes it easier to comprehend, but I can't even imagine learning a language made up out of only that kind of words but maybe the tones make a big difference once you get used to them?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT5LMsJEPoA

>listen to audio
>focus on just repeating back in your head (or out loud) the words as you hear them.
>this helps you focus on comprehension and also not translate words into your native language
is this like shadowing?

i find this really helpful

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>>220576287
It's not enough. That still leaves four (4) whole hours to ruminate over this meaningless existence and intrusive cringe memories from 3rd grade. Get those numbers up ASAP.

>>220585679
2h to play the guitar and 2h of drawing

Clearpill:
>People online are mostly right about the importance of comprehensible input
>A lot of them are also just lazy and would rather spend hours watching anime or Dreaming Spanish than reading so make up copes about how you shouldn't read because it will permanently mess up your accent, or how you need to learn absolutely 100% like a baby and so can't ever use a dictionary or grammar book
Take the graded reader pill. Take the reading textbooks but not doing any exercises pill. Take the Assimil pill. Take the frequency deck pill.

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> Try to find music and media in Bulgarian
> always end up just in Russian music and Media instead
the fuck, its always like "damn this song is good", check the lyrics and they are in Russian, and I specifically searched Bulgarian songs

>>220588120
I'm considering doing grammar exercises for German, because I have huge doubts that I could reliably learn strong/weak/mixed nouns through pure CI. I mean maybe I could, but it would probably take fucking forever.
On the other hand, I'm curious to see if it's possible to learn those kind of really erratic grammar patterns with pure CI.

who else is learning French and what are your motivations

this grammar is killing me and the pronunciation is fucking retarded. also there's like no good French music outside of house (stereolab and Air and that's basically it).

idk there's a part of me that wants to throw 6 months down the drain and study something else. I never felt this demotivated with Spanish and Portuguese

>>220589107
This is my third or fourth attempt. It sounds nice, nonchalant, and the French are cool. Only Italian gives me a similar vibe, only in French I can't distinguish the words. And I would also like to work in French, I like their eye to details and "visual culture"
The grammar isn't that difficult, gladly it's not a pro drop language, and those strange tenses aren't used as often as in Italian. They have less articles too
Modern music generally sucks unless you're a big rap fan. That aside, I have a feeling both Italy and France stopped producing good music une masse in the 2000s at the latest. France at least has better electronic music and Videoclub and Vendredi sur Mer. TikTok took away the pleasure of listening to this, but they were able to create something interesting there.
I'll probably give up the language soon and go back to German, Italian, or start Spanish or Portuguese from the scratch. Even if German has cases, it at least has operators (you know, has, have been, will), which makes it much easier to learn. Scandinavian languages are probably even easier to learn and have that cool lilt* like Scottish or Irish English. I'm afraid that French will mess up my already poor English pronunciation.
*lilt - my word of the day

>>220579796
i think the difficulty is mostly disambiguating all the very close sounding words later on + the writing
but memorizing basic common phrases and getting real use out of them is pretty easy afaik

>to mu dođe na isto.
>It comes to the same thing / it's all the same
what did you learn today?

I did not realize 어떻게 and 어떡해 were different words until now

>>220589107
I started because I love a lot of French literature, and as a history nerd I keep coming back to France when reading about anything from the crusades to the Napoleonic wars, and I enjoy the food and wine culture. I hated the sound of it at first as well which made me hesitant to start, though it didn't take me that many hours of listening to French TV for me to start appreciating it instead interestingly enough.

>>220593176
Well, they're pronounced the same and mean similar things. It's basically like your/you're

Should I learn French or German? I already speak Italian, English and Portuguese.
I kinda like Rammstein, but other than that I don’t really know what I’d use it for (maybe insult German tourists?)

wanted to play maplestory with koreans after all these years and you can't do it anymore without a korean id/phone number fuck

the internet just keeps getting fucking worse

>>220596337
German, unless you really want to learn yet another romance language for some reason and stay in your comfort zone.

>>220596337
There are a lot of cold wave songs in German, some pop music, niche metal bands to discover, cool history and probably the best starting Germanic language (I count English as a Germanic-Romance mutt). But I really think they should have a bigger influence on global pop culture and stronger soft power considering their position in Europe, economy, number of native speakers etc.
https://youtu.be/YqAl2KcZjhE?si=asWzqnuo70J8SVRN

>>220597618
I meant
https://youtu.be/bIIGKV27FaY?si=6b3F7zSP1x38DH8_

>>220596337
French has more speakers, is an UN official language and is a lingua franca. It's very useful.

I want to learn Kashubian

>>220520052
My grandad learned Spanish and Portuguese in his 30s and 40s to fluency, but then again he also grew up in pre-war Hungary where speaking 4 languages was a bare necessity to get around.

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>>220547812
>Read whole book and watch whole documentary (with no subtitles or captions) with almost perfect comprehension
Hell yes I feel like a French GOD
>try listening to native speakers talking to each other and understand
FUUUUGGCK

>>220568446
>Doesn't tell us which languages

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So how do I make it so I have to type in? Just clicking doesn't help me memorise anything

>>220568429
I got to B2 German and B1 French at least :(

>>220588120
Isn't reading way easier? At least that's the case for me. Listening to German shows takes way more concentration and effort while reading for me is silky smooth and I understand almost everything

>>220568851
basiert

>>220599226
I actually feel the same way, but it seems like people online post 10x as much about immersing in video/audio than text. Online immersion learners seem to be split into two camps: the ALG/Dreaming Spanish people who recommend you only begin reading after 300 hours of audio input (!) so you don't develop bad pronunciation habits through subvocalization before you've properly learnt the language's phonology, and the AJATT people who are all really into anime and so don't really recommend books (and are sometimes against graded readers because they're not native material). This is pure conjecture but I feel like reading is better immersion because it's just so much more dense: if you spend half an hour reading slowly (150WPM), you'll have read 4500 words; if you spend the same amount of time watching TV you'll only hear about 2500 (according to AI, so take this with a grain of salt).

As for the subvocalization thing, I don't really think it's true. AFAIK there's no research into it and to me it seems inherently obvious that whilst, at the same immersion hours, someone who focuses exclusively on listening will have better listening comprehension than someone who also spends a lot of time reading, the person who spends a lot of time reading will also obviously have better reading comprehension. Neither have "corrupted" their listening/reading skills, and you can make up for it with more immersion later.

>>220593600
>literature and history

based, same actually. so much literature is in french and it even shows up in English/Non-French (e.g. russian) books

>>220600937
Anyone not saying to read is a brainlet. However, reading and listening are definitely different skills. I always pick up reading way faster than listening.

reading is probably more effective for raw rate of information acquisition since you fully control the pace and can easily scan and backtrack and see multiple words at once rather than hearing one at a time. but I learn languages with the intention of interacting with target language speakers naturally so reading is mostly a waste of time. reading and spoken registers are completely different and you'll be learning all kinds of words and structures you'll never encounter in conversation

>>220599200
Personally I'd use this for Hiragana/Katakana. Do it 10 minutes a day and you'll have it all down in no time.
https://djtguide.github.io/learn/kana.html

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWyPEO3DwNe/

Rate her English accent

>>220602816
too high
broken konglish is cuter

>>220602915
Koreans attacked her. They said
> There is a Korean accent
But I cant find it

>>220602816
Sounds excellent.

I think my language superpower is that I can retain what I've learned really well. But it comes at the cost that I'm far more retarded than average at learning it in the first place.

How important is a native-like accent? The fact my spoken English sounds B1 despite being virtually C1+ in English drives me nuts
The problem with that is accent training requires commitment and lack of phonetic interference so it makes me unable to pick up a foreign language
If I simply embodied an IDGAF mentality about my voice I would've learned 10 languages

>>220606353
https://voca.ro/1kT97Thu1RK0

Reminder: The Jordanian is a troll - Do not reply to him, he is baiting for (you)'s.

>>220606503
I am not trolling. Idk how to prove it but I am not.

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Good morning to everyone, except the Jordanian troll :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9vHyj-dHY

>If I simply embodied an IDGAF mentality about my voice I would've learned 10 languages
si vocem meam non curavissem, decem linguas didicessem.

>>220544890
>Are English - Japanese mixed things good
no. do only target language. if you want a lesson, get a lesson on italki or whatever. if you want practice, just find tl content.

i have to learn french for my job fuck my goy life

>>220601313
>reading and spoken registers are completely different
This is key. Plus, a lot of the early inputs people choose between written and audio reinforce this: you'll encounter more high-register material through reading than writing (because writing filters a good share of any native language's idiots; because low-register writing is buried in social media, "weird" corners of the internet, etc.); you'll encounter more low-register material through the inverse (because news snippets often interview people who'll run their mouths; because even scripted shows want the verisimilitude of having dumb people in their plots). Personally, I try to balance these out by doing things like asking HelloTalk partners to text me the same way they text their native friends, and listening to very smart, media-trained people talk about issues (not your average podcaster, not your average politician reading off scripted remarks).

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>>220601313
why do my podcast-obsessed friends suck at speaking though?

>>220612481
Agreed. Input is a meme. I have read 3m+ words and can only speak at A2 level

>>220606407
you sound young as fuck this is a boomer general

>>220613957
I am 26 years old
I realized that learning a foreign language is probably my only means of alleviating my boredom
I don't want to code or do anything
I don't like video games anymore
I have the energy to learn a language, but idk which.

>>220614148
>26
child begone

>>220613957
I also want to speak English correctly (like a native) instead of sounding super Middle Eastern because it betrays my years of immersion in English
But as soon as I start working on my accent I cancel all foreign language learning because of phonetic interference
I've been stuck in this loop for... years now.

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>>220614721
kek

>>220614834
>Government documents have to be translated into Dhivehi
Is the administration of the Maldives not done in the local language?

>>220614899
i think he wants it to be in english only

>>220614834
this is going to happen to every developed small country sooner rather than later
might as well get in on the action

there ought to be competitions for language learning

there are all kinds of fancy hyper-specialized mnemonic techniques for shit like scrabble since they have tournaments that objectively filter for the best possible plays. but hardly anything like that for language learning. we'd have that for language learning too if there tournaments with objective measurement

something like fake generated languages where competitors are scored by rate of acquisition
would be able to objectively determine what the very best optimized min-max try-hard language learning methods are

>>220614834
this argument will eventually start hitting every European country

>>220615643
I get that, but the part about the govt docs only makes sense if the Maldives does their govt work in a language other than Dhivehi. They were ruled by the British I think so they might do stuff in English but I really don't know.

>>220616804
no it IS being done in dhivehi (i think) but he wants to change it to english, ironically his english is not good because he doesnt know his have/has

>>220599200
Using anki for kana is crazy

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>>220616458
Your ideaa reminds me of the Defense Language Aptitude Battery used by the US Department of Defense (pic rel). I think if those types of competitions really did exist there'd a) be a lot of goodharting, because testing well on a language is different from being able to speak it well, and b) the most common technique would just be loads of spaced repetition, which is already popular both in foreign language learning and in Quizbowl style competitions

excluding flag is there any reason to learn bengali over hindi like is there any interesting content?

>>220620259
the script looks cooler

>>220620458
any media?

>>220619881
I think 1 is A, and 2 is B.

I tried giving it to different AI's just to see what they'd come up with and they all give different answers lol.

>>220616458
in the UK there are linguistics olympiads where you have to figure out syntax, vocab etc of made up/rare languages
not exactly the same thing but similar

>>220606353
Native accent is irrelevant once you become fully comprehensible. Obviously your pronunciation matters, but if you want to sound "native" you're chasing a mirage. Plus what is a native accent these days anyways, fucking Jamaicans are native speakers too lmao

>>220609089
French is merciless for this. I have learned French to a high enough level where I can listen to the news on the radio easily and understand 100% of the report and I can also read university level books, but when I try listening to or chatting with French backpackers here in Australia I'm absolutely fucked and can barely catch or say anything

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why does wikipedia use british english when its an american site?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdPDowfGMgQ

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do you watch these?

>>220622955
Apparently they use a mix of British and American English depending on how the article was first written, and use appropriate regional dialects when the article is closely related to a particular country. It makes sense they wouldn't want to write things like "The Labour Party is a British political party that strongly supports labor unions" or "The US Department of Defense is a department that deals with defence", but even as a Brit it wouild make more sense if they just used American English by default.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English

>use ə to write the æ sound
What were soviet linguistis thinking???

>>220622488
theres also a surprising number of normie native english speakers who can't read anything academic without struggling. A lot of ESL's have better academic/scholarly register than the average english speaker

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>>220623345
nah, i did all of I could to hide youtube algo pushing.
> Sponsorblock
> History off
> Hide reccomended videos with ublock
> redirect Home to suscriptions page.
It was no joke one of the best things Ive done with my time. I remember watching speedrun "Documentaries", fucking hell.

>>220623345
I watched a few before but they were a bit awkward and not that interesting

>>220619881
there would need to be really well thought out scoring criteria for it to work well. But I don't think any popular existing methods would turn out to be the highest scoring ones. Every time a board game or something goes competitive someone comes up with some brand new technique no one has heard of

>>220623345
Is this what foreignoids watch on youtube

>>220520052
i'm 32 and i find it much easier now because i'm not overthinking as much.

quirk chungus reviews the arabic alphabet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS3NVubgteg

The bomp that saved lang

>>220624411
avoids confusion with German ä
also much easier to make when everyone used typewriters (just turn an e key upside down, you don't need a fancy new key)

>>220520052
>Why
Because it randomly became my main hobby, because I can find some niche career uses for it, because it's nice to communicate with people.
>harder
In some ways sure, but my cope/reality is that it's only now that I have the motivation to learn, actual goals that make learning more targetted than in a generalist school setting, ability to set up my schedule the way I want it, and capacity to pay mindlessly for tutoring when I want it. I envy the tweens/early twenty-somethings who lock in, but there's a reason why I wasn't one of them.

Plus I enjoy being a more well-rounded person than my 4channer autist self a dozen years ago (>implying I've changed), so there's also just more of a base for conversations and communication with the average person.

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its insane how many indian serials have hundreds sometimes thousands of episodes but no one learns indian languages

>>220619881
farkilam jankov
farkilam zikov

This is kind of question is fun. My thinking is; I'm assuming farkila means both skull and head. These NPs are double-marked like head-oy dependant-Ø for class 1 dependants like jank, and head-am dependant-ov for class 2 dependants like janko and zik. These kinds of constructions are used to show that something is something, somewhat like indo-european adjectives; perhaps AM or OV can be analysed as some kind of copulative affix or maybe there's an elided "to be" verb like russian.

>>220630440
It's quantity over quality, saar.

Bump

>>220520052
I think it's only ever hard if you are not obsessed with your TL or have other commitments in life that have priority over it.
I guess learning in general is supposed to be harder when you lose that neural plasticity but it's not like you can't learn new things at all as an older anon

Reply to this comment with a vote or you get ass cancer like the OnlyFans CEO who died recently:
>Learn a niche language I like.
>Learn a global language I [am neutral about but it's global so it's going to be worth it, no?]
If I lie, may I get ass cancer as well. So respond. I am not trolling.

>>220524392
>I don't give a fuck about Korean tho that shit sounds ugly
I think it sounds cute
>and nothing they make interests me
Look North. I couldn't care about the South, but the DPRK is really interesting to me.

Japanese and Chinese are objectively cooler though

>>220635077
>Course Outline:
The Persian alphabet, letter connections, and writing methods.
Sounds, vowel markings, and basic pronunciation rules.
Most commonly used everyday vocabulary.
Numbers, time, dates, and their expression.
Pronouns, question words, and simple sentence structure.
Short dialogues and listening exercises for beginners.
Practical pronunciation practice.
Exercises and practice exercises in the accompanying textbook.
>Course Outcomes:
Reading and writing letters correctly.
Communicating in simple sentences for everyday situations.
Acquiring 400–600 essential words.
Improving pronunciation and listening skills.
Preparing confidently for the next level.
>NOTE:
The course will never get a sequel due to the language not being in demand but my plan is to master that course (A1) and lay down the foundations and then inputmaxx/readmaxx/comprehensibleinputmaxx my way to B1/B2 and maybe even C1/C2

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>>220635077
Try stamp collecting.

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>>220635167
>gif-rel is /lang/ once I actually do learn a language

>>220526171
> seriously wondering whether to keep the dictionaries after I leave, or be a good boy and return them to the library
Just find a pdf and print it lol

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>I am not trolling

>>220635258
i swear i am not may i get ass cancer if i am lying this time inshallah

>>220635258
i am genuinely seeking advice on this matter, it's my last attempt at language learning, so answer pls

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>>220635367
There's no advice anyone can give you at this point. A hobby either clicks or it doesn't, you can't do much about it.

>>220635624
i am scared of language attrition and having my english deteriorating as a result of learning more languages
someone told me that my accent sounds like dogshit in English, it cannot get any worse or it will get memeish

>>220635653
Yeah, it's best if you don't risk it.

>>220599140
>Hell yes I feel like a French GOD
You are brother
>try listening to native speakers talking to each other and understand
They do this on purpose to confuse non natives. Its very poor coded common rabble behaviour. Hit them with well spoken formal French and watch them seethe.

>>220614148
>I don't like video games anymore
You want to learn a language, but you dont like the best way to learn them? Kinda gay bro

>>220622459
>Obviously your pronunciation matters, but if you want to sound "native" you're chasing a mirage
If you don't look native, I don't really see the point in trying to make yourself sound it. I have worked with countless people who speak English with really heavy accents and I have never had a really hard time understanding what they are trying to say. If anyone pretends to have an issue with accents its likely just because they're a twat and you should chin the cunt instead of repeating yourself.

>>220635367
I think you are trolling. All you do is post the same bullshit, and come up with retarded excuses like "language attrition". You never ask anyone here about their progress or learning methods. Polebro was even going to learn French with you and you ignored him.

>>220635077
Do whichever gives you the most joy. The time will pass anyway and you will eventually die regardless.
Just pick something and do it.

>>220637428
reminder he's been doing this for 4-5 years

>>220637499
I am not trolling. I think I am going to learn a language this time. But, I feel insecure about it affecting my English since it's the #1 language I care about.

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>>220637728
been saying that since 2022 and it's never been true