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/gq/ Infographic Emporium:
https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6
Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF

>Last time on /gq/, LiTai started selling Hesco 4800s with Chinese characteristics for half price. Safariland told me the Protech 2240 doesn't exist even though it's on the CPL. Anon fucked up and bought RMA 1165s.

>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.161
CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = NEEDS SOFT ARMOR, DND = do not drop, ** = military.
>Special Rifle Threat (M855A1, no M80 <44mm BFD):
Budget: Hesco T212 or L211
Mid-Range: Hesco M210
High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI**, or Tencate CR-6450SA.
>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):
Budget: Expired Hesco 3611C, surp SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001
Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*
High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DND
Elite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^
>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):
Budget: Used Protech 2120-5
Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513
High-End: LTC 28780**
Elite: VelSys PBZSA** or LTC 28791** or Hesco SC3812
Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995) or used Cercom CER-SOPS**^
>CONUS Optimal (M855A1 + M80A1):
Budget: Highcom 3S9 (SAPI-cut)
Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI-cut!)
High-End: Used LTC 28595**
Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**
Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA
>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):
/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G or Gilliam 1023
Budget: Hesco 4403* (bare minimum)
Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* (+ Level III) or surp ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J preferable, adds M995 / 3x M2AP vs 1x)
High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)
Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DND
>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)
Budget: Protech 2230 (fast M2AP, $300/set used)
Budget-Tungsten: Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)
Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)
High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)
Elite: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P) or ECSAPI (M993)

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Safariland email for anyone curious. Basically the Protech 2240 is listed on the actual NIJ CPL listing all certified armor, but is "inactive." Safariland is pulling a Hesco 4520 and basically pretending it doesn't exist. Considering how good the Protech 2230 is, the 2240 is probably a damn fine plate.
Also, the Protech 2230 was discontinued in 2021, which is later than I thought. Good news for anyone who wants a pair, there should be more surplus coming as warranties expire. This also means the 2240s were made probably starting in 2021-2022, so they should mostly still be in warranty (hence why they haven't been "surped" out yet).

>>64917311
>>64916691
First for leather and fur trimmed loadouts.

>>64917393
Based.
>>64917297
Dual ARPs with sixty round schmeissers with 3d printed +20 baseplates and FRTs. Black leather platecarrier. Chinese rizz cloak. Next gen gangster warfare.

>>64917386
What the fuck?

>>64917386
Was the 2230 ever certified? Is there a chance this is a fucking typo?

>>64917516
Round two of armor companies pretending their best plates don't exist. I should ask them about the 9903 too but I don't have a copy of the 0101.04 CPL to press them with.
>>64917519
The 2230 was certified from the day it launched in June 2013 to when it was discontinued in 2021. No chance it's a typo. The 2230 and 2240 are listed right next to each other on the CPL for Safariland AND Protech. This also means the 2240 has been on the CPL, inactive or otherwise, for about five years. Long time for a totally separate entry on a constantly updated document, don't you think?

>>64917386
Safariland is such a shit company now. Every company truly becomes such a scumbag.

>>64917568
Can't say I'm surprised. It's the armor industry in a shellnut. Civilians are third fiddle customers, and we get only the meh hand-me-down models. The 2230 was exclusively a "blue side" LE-exclusive plate to begin with. It was never originally sold to anyone but law enforcement, made to address hot-ass reloaded M2AP at 3,510ft/s. The 2240? No idea, but it does exist and it was certified as a IV. The gap between the 2220, 2220-1, and 2230 is huge so the 2240 must be an excellent plate made to address some emerging requirement, hence why they're pretending it doesn't exist.

Already asked but are Howard leight impact sports gtg? They seem fantastic for the money

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>>64917311
>>64917334
I like these images

>>64917311
What's that shield? Giving me real Gundam vibes. On a similar note, how much are the meme cloaks?

>>64917962
yeah they're good. I have the pros and while they're thick they muffle considerably better than my old walkers. Can feel the difference with a braked gun.
>>64917965
It's the multicam black rizz cloak, isn't it?

>>64918043
Perfect thanks man

>>64918032
The shield is from the old favorite before LiTai showed up, Jinny Wu aka Jinwudun. It's a IIIA all-steel handshield also good for some 7.62x25 tokarev threats.
https://jinwudun.com/products/jwd-armored-steel-bulletproof-arm-shield-iiia-44-level-protection-11-2x28inch
They have a huge selection of shields.
>meme cloak
Eighty bucks give or take:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809682841789.html

Is there a 10" round Level IV plate to use as a buckler? Asking for a friend.

>>64918095
Not that I've seen, not unless you do a custom request to Gilliam or Jinwudun - which could be costly. 10" round is also small for a shield. You could ersatz similar by using MOLLE forearms and then literally strapping a 10x12 plate to it in a DMGEAR XL panel, or an 8x10 in a Sabado, but that requires heavy DIY so it doesn't sag.

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>>64917334
Is there a stab vest version of this? Asking for a friend

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>>64918112
I'm just sayin'...

>>64918130
They don't ship to europe, sorry.

>>64918136
lol
>>64918130
That'll be covered in the /gq/ mall ninja infographic when I get to that. Safariland / Point Blank are good here. Adept has some stuff that'll ship to Europe. Militech actually has some beefy, heavy, but decent stab panels that are also ballistic (so they'll be sweaty as fuck but robust).

>>64918134
Jinny Wu has a 20" round shield but it's only IIIA. I'm sure they'll do a III if you ask and start waving a debit card at them since it's UHMWPE, so they just have to make it thicker, but the IIIA is already 7lb.
https://jinwudun.com/products/nij-iiia-round-bulletproof-shield-20-1-inch-uhmwpe-with-durable-nylon-cover
Gilliam will make armor in "any size at any protection level" as a custom job. The 8002 IV++ plate was a custom job he decided to commercialize and he did make shields years ago. He's got the ceramic and the PE necessary to make you a IV buckler or even higher if ya really really want it.

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>>64918176
>https://jinwudun.com/products/nij-iiia-round-bulletproof-shield-20-1-inch-uhmwpe-with-durable-nylon-cover
We are getting there.

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>>64918194
Yes, yes... and we're going to bring back the "Rogue Bandolier" as serious tactical gear, too.

>Key Frequency Bands
>2.4 GHz: The standard frequency for control links (transmitter to drone). It is widely used due to its ability to penetrate obstacles better than higher frequencies, but it can be congested in urban areas.
>5.8 GHz: Commonly used for FPV (First Person View) video feeds and, in many modern drones (like DJI), as a secondary control frequency to avoid 2.4 GHz interference.
>900 MHz / 868 MHz: Used for long-range, high-penetration communication (e.g., TBS Crossfire, ExpressLRS).
>433 MHz: Primarily used by radio enthusiasts for ultra-long-range, lower-bandwidth communication

>>64918341
https://m.made-in-china.com/product/RF-Power-Amplifier-Module-70W-2-4GHz-with-Customized-Frequency-Bands-GaN-Lora-Signal-Jammer-Drone-Signal-Blocker-Anti-Drone-Jammer-2221299855.html

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I didn't see anything in the infographic about slings I like this convertible one but $80 after shipping seems like a lot for a couple metal hooks and some fabric

What are some good budget slings

>>64918357
Absolutely do not pay $75 for that. I personally like the ferro slingster, but you can go to pretty much any website that sales gear to get one.

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>>64918365
is the vicker slings a meme or are they actually good?

>>64918368
They're fine. Really any sling will do pretty much the same thing. The reason I like ferro is because the cam is metal and it's wider than the vickers, so it's more comfortable for me personally.

>>64918365
What is wrong with the one I posted other than price and the business owner being a pig? Price wise the ferro slingster looks like it would be around the same price after getting mounting hardware I also have a 10% off coupon for the one I posted

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>>64918341
>>64918343
Excellent. I will use 868 MHz to direct my pimp fleet of rizzy food delivery robots. I'm gonna stick some Jinwudun on them so they can withstand hood firepower from the pizza hut to the projects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt52SaUnmNo

>>64918380
>>64918458
I just use a twenty dollar sling from Idogear...

>>64918466
I might end up doing that I already got a cheap red dot might as well get a cheap sling too for a $1500 rifle

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>>64918501
alright, how bad's the red dot?

>>64918458
The ferro also has a wider strap, and padding. if you want one with that kind of profile, just go with a cheap idogear one like >>64918466 said. It's $15 and you can also get a 10% discount for that too. You're not going to use the super tactical, one to two point conversion feature. One point slings suck ass, unless you have a 2 inch dick, and balls that suck inside your body. You just hit yourself with it every time you drop the rifle.

>>64918512
I wouldn't go below idogear though. I bought some shitty ass Zaotac or whatever sling for six dollars years ago and the zinc pot metal hardware blew out on me at the range.
China can make good stuff, but they also still make the chinesium they're known for and sometimes one masquerades for the other...

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>tfw you're china

>>64918521
I use idogear for my larp clothing. I'm not spending $500 on pants and a shirt, but the idogear ones are fine for just general larping around at the range.

>>64918529
I use their tall GP pouches for MKA-1919 turkshit shotgun magazines. Fit 10 rounders like a glove, five to a pouch.

>>64918509
Holosun HE510C-GR + HM3X combo

>>64918654
lol wtf that's solid. Thought you meant a barska or pinty.

>>64918694
cheap compared to Eotech or Trijicon

>>64917311
>>64917334
>>64918460
Where do I buy the Multicam black fur drip cape? This is an important question.

>>64918791
Here: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809682841789.html

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>>64917311
Shearling on clothing always goes hard but these threads are starting to make me think it's too fucking bougie for everyday wear

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>>64918854
>They don’t know the difference between Hesco 4498 and Protech Xcal

>>64918962
>Based on the search results "Hesco 4498" does not appear to correspond to a recognized, specific Hesco Armor plate model (such as the 3000, 4000, or 6000 series).
this man on anudda tier of spook plates

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Frenchanon here, I got this reply from PANGOLIN and it looks a bit sketchy to me:

>My message
>"Hello,I am contacting you regarding your NIJ 4 / VPAM 10 hard ballistic plate: HI/RA LIGHT™. On the product page, only the NIJ ballistic test report is available. Do you also have the report or certificate relating to the VPAM 10 standard? Furthermore, regarding the composition, you mention “ceramic and high-performance composite fibers for optimal resistance.” Could you please provide more details on this? Is it monolithic silicon ceramic, boron carbide, or another type of material?"

>Their answer
>"Hello, The document relating to the NIJ standard is indeed the test report; this is the document that is recognized by insurance companies.The certification—referring here to the official NIJ document—is very rare in the sector in Europe, and more generally among most manufacturers, with the exception of a few large state-owned groups. What 90% of manufacturers in the sector do is conduct ballistic tests under the same conditions defined by the NIJ standard. In our case, these tests are carried out by an NIJ-certified American laboratory (authorized to conduct NIJ testing), under the same conditions as the official protocol.Furthermore, NIJ IV plates are made from silicon carbide and aramid fiber (such as Kevlar)."

>>64919914
So they never tested it to VPAM-10, they just did one shot with NTS and called it a day. Also they don't know how their plates are made, apparently? This is cringe indeed.

>>64917962
3M range guards with gel cups vastly superior
>>64918368
They are the only sling worth buying
>>64918341
Good place to start

>>64921302
>3M range guards with gel cups vastly superior
y tho

>>64921667
Better sound reproduction
Better comfort
Better helmet mounting options
Better batterylife

>>64918368
vickers are good
you want a 2 point sling with quick adjustability
vickers does it well with thick webbing that resists getting twisted and tangled in itself
you can get a much cheaper 2 point but it will be thin webbing that is plenty strong but occasionally annoying to deal with
>>64918458
what you do not want is a single point sling unless you are using something small like an SMG, and you never want bungies, they just makes the gun bounce around every step

>>64921694
thanks brudda for making me understand
gonna go order sesame cbicken brb

>>64920026
Yeah that's not good. Whole world of difference between 3x 7.62x54 B-32 API with less than 25mm BFD and just one M2AP with less than 44mm.

>>64919032
>6000 series Hescos
AI hallucinating super Hescos like Grok hallucinated 3.5lb Lesbian ESAPIs. Lemme go phone Hesco for a 6800 .50 cal plate cuz I don't trust SERBAN with my life against the Irish.

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...A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ >64877838
Couple threads ago I asked if a TLR7 would fit into a TLR1 safariland holster 6xxx series. This faggot said no. It does fit. So fuck you a2 grip.
Anyone ever wrap their own or send it off? Or should I just leave it as or rattle can?

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>>64922505
I trust Serban just like I trust my optics to hold zero.

>>64918460
>>64918791
>>64918806
fuck off. You've shitted up the past 5 threads.

>>64922559
it's cordura with double sided tape, you can do this, anon.

>>64922653
>Salty ass can't handle the drip
>>64922650
Well I mean Gilliam IS making plates unequaled by anything from Hesco, Highcom, or RMA in his garage using Chinese materials, it isn't exactly rocket science.
A .50 cal plate is just normal plate but 1000lb sisters edition.

>>64918806
fucking damn it I missed out on the $7 coupon. My mind is writing checks my wallet can't cash.