Why is it that writing was the only thing I thought about or cared about for the past decade but now that I finally have people interested my brain is completely numb and I can't write anything down.

>>25108013
you need to do something new, once you're done with what has become work. I suggest a new genre that you wouldn't have normally tackled previously. Myself, I didn't like isekai. But once I started writing in it, I fell in love with my story. Since I don't read much of it it will be different from everything else out there. or it will hearken back top more basic traditions it came out of. Either way it should be different. Finish what you're on, then take a break and do this.

>>25108048
I have to do, at minimum, 2 books worth before I can take a break. The problem is I'm basically writing on autopilot and my brain is currently incapable of forming thoughts outside the outline. Still, maybe I should write something new regardless, but my brain has a really hard time handling multiple projects at once.

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We had only one (1) person who succeeded last thread at writing 1k. Sons, I am disappoint. Still, there are more opportunities before us. Such as now.

/wng/ Thread Quest #6:

Give some thought to whatever power system you have or are thinking of making.

Just about every WN has a power system of some sort. If done well, it adds to the story you want to tell and immerses readers further. You'll know it's done the job when you see comments theory crafting about what they would do with it themselves. Simple or complex, share what you have here.

Good luck, and have fun!

Threadly reminder not to respond to Tinashit.

>>25108124
Threadly reminder this anon is seething hard.

>>25108124
Where?

>>25108124
show us on the doll where tina touched you anon. you can get over this. we can help.

>>25108121
oh no no no the power system is my big hangup, I can't figure it out at all.

>>25108178
Do what the best artists do: steal.

>>25108124
In my experience, Tina has been at worst kind of annoying. By comparison, your incessant bitching and moaning is infinitely worse, and thus makes me want to side with Tina out of spite. Kill yourself.

>>25108179
Seconded. Originality is a lie. What you do is you steal brazenly, steal often, and stir it up a little. If you steal from 10 different things and then stir it together a bit, filter it through your own thoughts, you will end up with something "original"

>>25108127
>>25108176
>>25108180
同人

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>>25108186
retard
inb4 muh inspect element, as if you were worthy of the effort

>>25108186
>>>25108127
>>>25108176
>>>25108180
>同人
I was curious. I looked it up what our asian friend was saying:
In Japan, a doujin is a group of people who share an interest, activity, or hobby. The word is sometimes translated into English as "clique", "fandom", "coterie", "society", or "circle". Wikipedia
basically stated, anon is pointing out that tina is now your group hobby. congrats seething anon. the asians are making fun of you now. Way to fire ass wipe.

>>25108205
I find it hard to believe that we actually have Eastern anons here. More likely that someone just went to google.
봐요? 누구나 할 수 있어요.

>>25108221
the chinkish race has arrived to colonize this thread
不是韓國人, 因為韓國人都吃醋

>>25108178
Well, you can start with what story you want to tell and go from there.
>>25108185
This is also good advice.

>>25108227
cool. I have yellow fever anyways.

Guys, what are gu?

>>25108121
>Give some thought to whatever power system you have or are thinking of making.
The power system is mana. The more mana you use the more amazing things you can do. Warriors mostly use mana internally to make themselves more physically capable. Mages mostly use mana to affect change on their surroundings through spells. There are those rare few that try to pursue both paths at once. They cripple their progress for marginal benefits.

Warriors can externalize their mana ("cast spells") by channeling it through weapons. Eg they can make their sword shoot out wind blades. Mages typically can't internalize their mana, but they can shield themselves with it to make them survive in a pinch.

Monsters use mana too to produce various effects.

Would a cultivation novel set in india work? Instead of taoism, Confucianism and Buddhism the religions will be Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, and buddhism. The caste system would play a major role, I'm thinking of making the protagonist a caste that typically doesn't have access to cultivation, and there will be beggar-sect/underground resistance like organizations comprised solely of hijra or dalit
I'm not actually Indian but their culture fascinates me

>>25108390
I've seen a bunch on RR.

>>25108390
Easily, yes. It's been done a few times.

>>25107999
Lack of productivity is killing me. I feel like I must write a novelette of 10K words to prove I can tell a story with a beginning, middle, and ending.
That would be about 5 chapters if every chapter is around 2K words.
>Chapter 1: hook andintroduction of main cast
>Chapter 2: introduce supporting cast
>Chapter 3: dark twist
>Chapter 4: climax
>Chapter 5: epilogue

>>25108390
There's a guy posting sutras and parables and shit straight out of RL Buddhism on RR. Can't remember the title offhand but it's massive with 3k+ chapters iirc.

>>25108390
No, for cultivation daoism is a must, you can't have cultivation without it. As long as you have daoism you can add buddhism and others.

>>25108424
hm, no, i think i'm gonna schizo out and work out a cultivation system based on completely unrelated mythology

>>25108408
>supporting cast
>in 10,000 words
Restructure, refresh your idea.

>>25108451
you could do it if you use clear archetypes and don't bother with any real characterization, just let the archetype and character desc do the talking

>>25108451
Yeah, I'm thinking minimum of 50 characters.
I don't see how that would be a problem, 10K words is a lot and Romance of Three Kingdoms introduces 5 chapters per page.

>>25108457
>you could write shit
Yeah, you could.

>>25108458
Keep us posted lazyboy, I'm sure it'll work out great.

>>25108424
Why would you need Daoism? Sounds likea lack of imagination to me

>>25108430
For what reason? If you want readers then use Daoism, otherwise invent your own system

>>25108481
"cultivation but with different mythology/without daoism" is a strong concept by itself and has been done many times
such as, I don't know, only the most popular western cultivation novel Cradle

>>25108484
Cradle would've been just as popular with a western dnd magic system. In fact cultivation in cradle was very basic and vanilla.

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>>25108496
retard

>>25108481
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, do you. Why do you have to keep pretending that you're a wise sage when you know nothing? What the hell is wrong with you?

>>25108537
If you want readers, followers, if you want paying subscribers then you have to give people what they want. I don't understand why this simple idea causes so much anger among /wng/ posters.

>>25108537
The "if you want readers" guy is an idiot who has been in here for years.
They never do anything themselves but they have indispensable business advice for everyone else.

>>25108580
The stalkerfag already identified him, it's the author of the fic with 4k followers on the list.

>>25108589
I don't believe that. I realize that just makes me sound like a yokel bystander in a throwaway xianxia scene but why would someone with 4k followers spout apparently sincere brazen falsehoods?

>>25108597
a retard can be successful
unfortunately

>>25108597
Survivorship bias. When a person succeeds at something, he begins to place excessive importance to the perceived factors behind his success, while disregarding all the cases where those factors didn't contribute to other people's performance.

>>25108589
What 464? The guy who'd be making loads if they just bothered to actually write more than a chapter a year?

>>25108654
Doubt it. Spoke with him a few times (albeit years ago) and he didn't come off this stupid.

>>25108121
Equippable Skill System
Every monster possesses its own set of abilities. When you defeat a monster, there is a chance it will drop one of its abilities as a Skill Core, such as Fire Breath Lv.3 or Haste Lv.5. These cores can then be equipped and activated by the user.
However, users have a limited number of skill slots, so they must carefully decide which skills to equip, which to upgrade, which to sell, and which to fuse together to create stronger or entirely new skills.
Most people are born with one to three slots, with the potential to unlock an additional slot every fifteen levels. While leveling up does increase base stats like Strength or Defense, a single high-quality Skill Core can far surpass the benefits of years of grinding. Power isn’t determined by level alone, but by the strength and synergy of one’s build. A Level 1 player with three Lv.99 skills that complement each other perfectly could potentially defeat a Level 60 player who equips seven weak Lv.1 skills with zero synergy.
The main character could have a stupidly broken build like:
- Last Stand: Boosts all stats by 300% while at 1 HP
- Second Chance: Survive a fatal attack with 1 HP
- Suicide Bomber: Self-destruct to inflict extreme fire damage within a 100-meter radius
There could also be a secondary progression system focused on crafting and upgrading armor and weapons, each with their own slots, skills, and mechanics.
A system like this could potentially go on forever. Since I could take the Metroid approach and take away the MC’s skills at the start of every new arc, forcing him to pick himself back up with a new and exciting build that’s even more broken than the last. He could shift from being a tank to a healer, to a spy, to a puppet master, and more. I could even have him ping-pong between being an overpowered protag with cheat abilities and a weak underdog who has to fight for scraps.

Litrpg's pretty interesting because the more you read/write it the more you realise it doesn't actually resemble videogames/ttrpgs that much.
Like it's not a pure simulacra but it's closer than you'd think.

>>25108580
It's a simple, noncontroversial idea. I don't understand why people get triggered by it.

>>25108747
Of course, it fundamentally can't resemble TTRPG any more than TTRPG-based games can be truly faithful to TTRPG. Different formats demand different Systems Theory even if you start with the same Systems Concept.

>>25108747
>the more you read/write it the more you realise it doesn't actually resemble videogames/ttrpgs that much.
As if that isn't glaringly obvious when the MC pulls a dozen skills out of his ass just for getting up from the bed in the morning. These writers have never heard the word "game balance"

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saw this one post describing Buddhism as a form of "Copeism religion", thoughts?

>Have some cool idea i want to write
>The emotional core is ass
I was thinking making a "Cynicism vs Idealism" story in a cultivation setting but it seems weak on it's own, i need something more personal...

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Anybody thought about cross posting their works to novelpia. Seems like their expanding westwards, though I'm skeptical about this fund. Seems like the KR version of webnovel.

>>25108914
>"mahayana buddhism is spiritual bread and circuses"
holy based

>>25108925
That's bold strategy for a platform. I guess Novelpia is really determined to outgrow RR's tyranny.
Honestly, I'd be so happy if I got 1 buck for my writing.

>>25108914
The cultivation genre as we know it is partially rooted in Buddhism.
What is RI-fags response?

>>25108951
Cultivation as a genre is extremely escapist, of course it's a fundamentally copeist genre.
"The system is rigged but I'll climb up and overturn the whole thing if I have to get my freedom" is a huge cope and very fitting for downtrodden chinese youth who read these novels.

>>25108925
novelpia offered me a contract once to publish my shit on their platform, it was something like $80 advance and $50 for the next three months with the only demand that they made being that they had the most available free chapters & several premium chapters available
no demands not to have a patreon or the like, and they said that it'd be possible to delete the story if stubbing became necessary for amazon kindle

they also offered premium where you get some fraction of the money paid by all premium subscribers but at that point it'd be harder to stub and the like

>>25108963
hm, perhaps...

>>25108968
don't do it anon, RR monetization will be out any day now
any day... the jew dragon promised us...

>>25108970
When that happens, I'm out of there for real. Giving your bank and personal information to these kikes is a level of stupid that shouldn't be humanly possible

>>25108975
There's more jews involved with Paypal and Patreon than RoyalRoad.

>>25108975
between kiketreon, kikepal, and jewroad, I'm more willing to give me bank details to RR, and I've already given them to the former two anyway so it can't get worse

>>25108979
What's the % on the others? On RR it's 100. And they'll probably get hacked in a year and whoopsie everybody's data was stolen, who could've seen that coming

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>>25108984
>established international payment services securely used by hundreds of millions of people around the world are totally worse than this rpgslop fansite operated by two literally whos
Are you fucking kidding me, retard?

>>25108986
RR doesn't have a captive userbase. They haven't captured enough market share to be able to afford to be shitcunts and they don't have the predisposition to be shitcunts. Believe it or not the site wasn't created as some israeli ploy to capture the webnovel market, for once it really is a coincidence. So I don't think it'll go that way. People can always flee to webnovel or novelpia or just toss away serialization altogether and go full amazon.

>>25108990
That's exactly why I don't think they're likely to fuck it up. So far, they've shown themselves to be fairly competent and of good character. Too busy to deal with small petty bullshit like discord cliques coordinating launches, sure.

>>25108986
There is one Israeli that is the co-founder of RR. It's just some dude who likes SFF slop.
>>25108990
The Chinese that run webnovel.com deal with thousands of thirdworl authors and tens of thousands (if not more) of premium users so by this logic they're even more trustworthy than Royal Road. Why don't you go do business with them isntead?

>>25108925
I've been spending too much time looking into Japanese metrics and translations that I completely forgot about Korea.

>>25108747
I think this is in favor of LitRPG though. I want to play a game like in these stories target than most of the RPGs that we actually get.

>>25109027
Yeah, I think the good ones get it right. Open world RPG with essentially unlimited progression.
I've tried to play a few TTRPGs that way and the problem you run into is that their economies are designed for maybe one upgraded ever and XP is mostly tied to narrative events.
It's definitely a niche to fill. Really only stuff like Elder Scrolls games comes close to the feeling, depsite most litrpgs being closer to the likes of mmos on the surface.

>>25108968
130 dollars for three months of work. doing everything you're told to do.
you could work one day a week at a gas station, asking of they want a pack of smokes with their fill up and make more cash than that. plenty of writing time left over.
just saying.

On the topic of Novelpia, what's their stance on stubbing?

>>25108580
working on their schtick. to put together a tony robbins style thing. its not your writing, its your lack of the business end of things. let my webinar teach you how to succeed doing what you're already doing. allow me to help you. here, watch me karate kick this board. now put all your money in that barrel over there. if its full, no matter. I got an empty barrel for you all ready to go. he's refining his grift-speak on us.

>>25109056
i get what you were trying to say but by God your fuckass post fought me trying to extract the meaning

>>25109047
What is stubbing? Is that people call short stories?

>>25109138
Stubbing is when you publish a volume to Kindle Unlimited and have to delete or hide 90% of the chapters that volume covers from public WN sites

>>25109138
When you pull a story from a platform because kindle unlimited demands exclusivity.
You leave a couple of chapters up (a stub) as like an advert.

Funny thing it that the exclusivity deal is time-limited but people rarely put them back because they see the free chapters as lost income.

>>25109147
Last I checked it was time limited in that it was 3mo minimum once the agreement kicked in, but after that putting the chapters back up would cancel KU benefits (if zon found out)?

>>25109110
Amen, brother

>>25108951
Daoism. Finding dao, studying dao, dao translates roughly as a way. That is what cultivation is.
From my personal understanding Buddhism and all that it encompases is one of many Daos.
Buddhism mythology is also often used in cultivation novels.

>>25108955
What novels did you read?

I'm struggling really hard with prose. Historical epics just introduced characters on a whim and have years of time pass in a single sentence, but that doesn't seem to be appealing for current audiences.

>>25109110
it was a satire, of tony robbins doing a grift for WN as a side hustle.

>>25108925
>get 50,000,000 views
>make $500,000

I dont like Novelpia. Everything they say and do tells me they're desperate to expand their userbase as fast as possible. This sort of bullshit is going to get a lot of gullible writers, but not readers. I also don't like their exclusivity clauses. You publish something on Novelpia they own it forever. No thanks.

>>25109271
that’s mostly because buddhism and daoism are practically indistinguishable at this point, since so many concepts belonging to each got blendered and mixed together sometime during the 1st century AD. aka, as soon as buddhism entered China it race-mixed with taoism, and their resulting mutt children is the daoism and chinese buddhism we’re familiar with.

which setting is generally more palatable for your average WN audience?

>paleolithic
>mesolithic
>neolithic
>chalcolithic, or transition period from stone age to metal use
>bronze age
>iron age

>>25109564
None of these.
WN read postapocalyptic and mediaeval-static. Which really both mean postapocalyptic since the Middle Ages literally rose out of the Roman ruins (often plundering old temples for columns to use in churches).

PALAEOLITHIC: Clan Of The Cave Bear sold among women, which made Jean Auel ridiculously rich. I don't know if anyone has touched it in the WN space but it seems they could.
BRONZE AGE: I'd like to think Bronze / Heroic / Egyptian New Kingdom has some traxion. Anatolia Story / Red River was a manga about being isekai'ed into the Hittite Empire. Haven't seen it much around the WN space, but I've seen it in literotica (because everyone wants to fuck the Egyptians' cat goddesses).
IRON AGE: in-effect means Biblical fanfic. Christians buy it.

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>>25108878
Maybe PoE is just really popular in Japan?

>>25109666
Someone needs to write an Isekai novel about poe

>>25108408
10K words is still basically a short story length, so it's better to write the whole thing in one go without bothering with a fixed formula.
Maybe come up with a prompt like
- Just because I have a cheat skill doesn't mean I'm going to use it! The hero wants to play the game properly.
- After defeating the demon king, the villain, who's secretly a good guy all along, still has to pay for his crimes.
- After spending 100 years in the most dangerous dungeon, the returned Lv 999 archmage lacks common sense.

Are Koreans interested in feudal Japanese history? I know they hate each other.

>>25109731
history autism tends to overcome age old race hatreds

>>25109415
>exclusivity clauses. You publish something on Novelpia they own it forever
Source? I thought that was only WebNovel

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I was thinking about how shit MTG is, how about going back to the roots of 'character summoned by an eldritch being to the battlefield and then discarded like trash afterwards'

>>25109605
>Clan Of The Cave Bear sold among women, which made Jean Auel ridiculously rich
T. read this book and then saw the movie.

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>>25109835
That's basically most "king and the princess summoned the hero but they're evil assholes who plan to betray them after they kill the demon king/the hero has a seemingly useless skill and gets kicked out of the palace.
Or the ones where the god(dess) that summons the hero is actually evil or they're retarded and cause the hero to suffer by sending them to the wrong world or giving them the wrong ability.

>>25109876
Literally all of that is kino and I refuse to believe otherwise.

More authors need to play those premises straight.

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>>25107999
>various personal author websites

Is anyone in here doing this?

>>25109910
I'm probably going to eventually end up doing this so if you are still here after a year I'll let you know.

>>25109915
Nice. I'm actually doing it as we speak. I've never conceived of the story I'm telling as a "web novel," but I gradually became convinced I was going to have to at least initially release it online in sections, on a domain I totally controlled.

I had a buddy with experience in the publishing industry who told me the first book of the story just wasn't going to be a draw for agents and publishers. Not only is it long, it's weird, deliberately so. I made, and will continue to make, artistic choices that aren't initially what publishers will want. My thinking is that if I can attract some attention, maybe I can make them want it.

Also the story gradually gets very metaphysical, very spiritual, and very religious, which I know scares publishers off. But I knew I couldn't trust Substack, Royal Road, Wattpad, or AO3 to really be a home for such an odd work. I know it's odd, so my own website is where it's going to have to go, at least for a while.

Anybody deal with Moonquill before? What rates did they offer you? Anything to look out for?

i wrote 1000 words today, most of it a fight scene. I tried to use more general actions and feels rather than my usual highly technical descriptions.

>>25108995
>by this logic they're even more trustworthy than Royal Road.
Well, clearly they are more trustworthy, since they've been in business for years and RR has not been for a day yet. They're also very open and direct about their terms, so you can't say you're being deceived if you knowingly agree to those terms. Is logic a completely alien concept to you, dumb goy?

>>25109959
but a 500-word aside about the specific mechanics of why the CBT Maximalism Sutra is the perfect trick here is the best part of any fight scene

Weekly chapter review

Pale Lights (patreon) : bold move by Angharad , let's see if it works out.
Years of the Apocalypse (patreon) : War of the Prophets is a 'GO' . So far this final book is fire.
100 Reigns : Simon got a ton of conspiracy info this reign in exchange for minimal level ups. I also love that he is becoming extremely competent and that we slowly see him maturing into the man he can be.
Player 0.4 : I should be alienated by the change of tropes by I got to admit that I like Not-Hagwards world so far.
Apocalypse Reborn : Things are going to well , waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Trial period :
One was Worthy : not bad but I have a feeling the author messed up the scaling of their rpg system. Keeping up with it for now.
Timelooping for Dummies : still too early to judge It's a rare thing to see somebody so deliberately stupid as the MC. The humor can be a bit cringe but I don't mind (for now).
RE: Knight : Not what it says on the tin. As I wrote in my review , "this is just the typical YA backpack-zombie-survival deal so far". If it doesn't get more original in the next few chapters I will drop it.

>>25109998
I've never done that sort of thing, but I overly describe every movement and I've been told it comes off pretty dry in writing.

>>25109910
I've purchased a domain but there's no website. I've been putting it off for over a year. I should probably hire someone off fiver already.

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>>25109728
>10K words is still basically a short story length
Wrong, it is classified as novelette.
>it's better to write the whole thing in one go
You guys write 10K words in one session?

>>25110067
Not that Anon, but I had one incredible session about six years ago where I sat down and wrote more than 15,000 words without stopping. I've never been that productive before or since. It was amazing, I was like a machine, a soldier on a march.

Unfortunately it was fanfiction.

>>25110052
Obsessed.
Jelly as hell that my story is superior?

>>25110074
Something about fanfic that makes it trivially easy to write huge amounts. Even if it's functionally mostly original and only uses some surface elements from the source work. Maybe I should use this. Write a fanfic, then go back and file off the serial numbers in editing.

>>25110090
No. Don't. You can't do that. Fanfic is fanfic and original fiction is original fiction. They're different functions of reality, they operate on different organs of the mind. Even if you go back and file off the serial numbers of a fanfic, it will still BE a fanfic. Just like how Shades of Grey still feels like a fanfic despite all the names and places getting changed to make it original. You know it's a fanfic when you read it.

>>25110093
It doesn't matter if anyone who reads it can tell that it's just "Battletech-with-cultivation because Mech Touch did it wrong", they will read it, they will pay, and I will not be legally liable because I made sure to remove the serial numbers

I made people pay for literal fanfic and got away with it.

>>25110110
I used to know a guy who made his living writing Overlord fanfic on commission. Had people shelling out thousands in advance to get him to write the next volume. Also wrote some furry HFY shit.

>>25110110
There is absolutely 0 difference between this and artists paywalling artwork of copyrighted characters, which are way more popular than any fanfic and still nobody does a thing about it.

>>25110117
>guy who made his living writing Overlord fanfic on commission.
>Had people shelling out thousands in advance
Be careful posting stuff like this on /wng/

>>25110152
I don't see why, it was well known at the time, he spoke about it somewhat regularly in public servers, both how much his whales were paying and how much he would write per day, something insane like 10k/day at max. It's not exactly "if you know it, the guy can tell who you are" type information. I know better than to talk about that kind of actually sensitive stuff.

>>25110159
No, it's about writing what people want and then getting paid for it. This is a very controversial topic here, expect others to attack you for expressing it.

>>25110067
yes. I regularly might go 5k in one session. I've definitely had long 10k or more in one go but that was off work, schedule open, work all day and all night, sleep in next day. But if you sit down and its that kind of day you go with it if you can.

>>25110054
just get a free forum site. easy. thread could be a book, every post a chapter. plus other forums on it could be for talking. your patreon pay piggies could come and get their special pictures, extra chaps, etc. Only pay piggies get access to extra forum, etc.

How do you guys come up with titles?

>>25109957
>Anybody deal with Moonquill before? What rates did they offer you? Anything to look out for?
they used to list generic terms on their website not sure if they still do. I once submitted a chap but they never got back. they won't even reject you, lol. you have to figure it out yourself.

>>25110310
I can't even do 1K in one day

>>25110316
>How do you guys come up with titles?
I either pick an important feature of the work and describe it abstractly or come up with a metaphor that describes the work as a whole.

I know one thing a lot of people do is steal random, possibly vaguely related to the story, song titles.

Or you can do the meme and describe the premise in a drawn out way, e.g. "Lily x Narcissus?!?: Love Blooming Between Split Personalities with a Video Exchange Diary"

Kinda tells you all that you need to know on the box.

>>25110316
>>25110337
Oh, also use wordplay.

In the example title I gave, Lily, Narcissus, and Blooming are all flower terms, but they also directly relate to the plot.

Lily=Yuri=Lesbian and Narcissus=Narcissistic

>>25110316
For book titles, I agonize for weeks
For chapter titles, I just pick whatever feels relevant to the chapter

>>25110316
I tended to wait on book title. I wait for some motif or theme to seem to develop as I write. Maybe some phrase comes up a few times even if stated different ways. That way when the book is being read, you understand the title. I want the title to mean something as well as sound half cool. I've red books where the name was like that. something buried through the book somewhere. Its kind of cool when you reach the point you hit the title that way.

>>25110321
i have those days. we all have those days. but i also have 2,3,4,5k or more days. you write through that shit. when i have a cool little movie in my head, i know its time to write. I know the cool scene I'm writing towards, and what comes after is obvious. I have some scenes that I'm not there yet and it bugs me so that keeps me plugging away. I'm excited like a little kid. I want to write that cool scene I keep seeing.

>>25110344
>For chapter titles, I just pick whatever feels relevant to the chapter
be careful not to give away what comes though. It should only make sense after you read the chapter or hit that part.

i recently started just using numbers. Chapter 01, chapter 02, etc. Some authors do that. If I want to go back and name them I can.

>>25110352
i like to put "in this chapter goku dies" type shit, it's funny

>>25110346
>I've red books where the name was like that. something buried through the book somewhere
So have I but usually when writers do that it falls flat. I rarely have a "HE SAID THE THING!" moment. Not saying success is rare, just less common than failure.

If you really want to get tricksy with it, you can use an obscure word or phrase or double meaning or otherwise hide something in your title that a reader isn't going to instantly realize is relevant to the plot to reward clever/well read readers.

I think the best example of this I can think of off the top of my head is from the anime s-CRY-ed. The deuteragonist and frequent PoV character is literal scrying the fucking story.

>>25109935
>Also the story gradually gets very metaphysical, very spiritual, and very religious, which I know scares publishers off. But I knew I couldn't trust Substack, Royal Road, Wattpad, or AO3 to really be a home for such an odd work. I know it's odd, so my own website is where it's going to have to go, at least for a while.
We're the same person. I'm doing my own website for the exact same thing, as well as to provide better support for different languages because my primary audience isn't in the US or Europe.

>>25110008
>OWW
Agreed. Having a village in the middle of bumfuck nowhere be so nonchalant about having so many elites or high-tiers makes no sense. Author wrote themself into a corner with so many shinies.

>>25110316
I come up with a cool title first then come up with the story later.

What would Spectral Soul do?

>>25110487
kill
like you should do, yourself

>>25110356
>Some authors do that.
Most authors do that, lmao.

>>25110561
Personally I think it's lame.
But I suppose it depends on what you consider a chapter to be.
Numeric chapters imply they are arbitrary breaking points.
To me chapters are stories within stories

>>25110599
I'm not creative enough to come up with chapter titles and I'm on a time crunch but I agree with you.

>>25110316
It used to be difficult for me but now my settings are so fertilized I can pick a philosophical concept or cool pop culture reference that’s really meaningful in them.

>>25110599
Or maybe it just shows the order of the chapters when listed for clarity's sake, you goddamn sperg

>>25110643
Also makes shit easier to cite.

>>25110599
Have you never read a webnovel and then gone back to it months later?
Without numbers it's v. awkward to find where you were

numbers don't go up

>>25110861
RR literally has progression system for it...

>>25110906
>reading in browser

>>25110909
based wget chad

>>25110916
I write on spacebattles and I still have no fucking idea how anyone reads stories in that format.

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One month has passed since the end of FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist.'

What's your opinion now that the dust has settled?
I'm doing a polishing and fuck if I did a great job.

>>25110927
Artwork gave me medieval fantasy/historical fiction vibes and I was really disappointed when it wasn't.

>>25110932
But it is, in part.
Did you read the stand-alone chapter?

>>25110936
I read the first chapter and realized it wasn't for me. Maybe I will check it.

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>>25110971
Enjoy
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story/chapter/2513066/martial-critique-part-eight-stand-alone

>>25110487
>What would Spectral Soul do?
I heard he dilates a lot.

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Author notes, based or cringe?

>>25111153
Unfathomably based

So Shadow Slave is getting a physical book. I'd be jelly if all the money wasn't going to the chinks that own WebNovel.

I want to give up on my proper novel and write goonslop on ao3. I want to write about hot succubi getting railed.

Writing is so easy
https://pastebin.com/3xJuSwn1

It took the AI a whole 0.06 seconds to generate this. This is the future of writing.

>>25111325
its dogshit tho

>>25111368
Yes, but it's not that dogshit. It reminds me of web novel combat scenes that I only skim through because nothing happens in them.

>>25111398
>it reminds me of what I don't read
then it isn't the future of writing

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Is "I Became an Evolving Space Monster" peak?

>>25111195
I can't imagine getting a printed copy of a webnovel with such dogshit prose, even if I like the story.

>>25111456
Are you asking if that's a good title, or if a novel with that name is good?

>>25111456
It's very fucking peak

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Pic related is peak. Web novel world would be a very different place (a much worse place) without it.

>>25112050
>a much worse place
Unironicaly filtered

>>25112050
it's ok

>>25108325
Poisonous insects raised in their own bodies by the diabological southern barbarians of the miao tribe.
>>25108390
Trains would be too unbalanced and hygene too.

Has anyone here actually tried to create a gu by putting a bunch of insects in a jar and letting them fight it out/each other until the sole survivor contains all the distilled venom of all the others?
Might do it as a weekend activity with my nephews.

>>25112108
I put it in the bed of the nascent core realm elder and he died after a single bite.
The issue might have been chink slop contamination.

I'm creatively bankrupt. All my ideas are from maladaptive daydreaming and reading fandom wikis for media and IPs I haven't even consumed.

Gonna spend the next 6 months not writing anything and actually consooming media so I have quality grist for the mill.

>>25112108
No but I had bedbugs, it was not a pleasant experience.

>>25112115
Are you me? I've been thinking I should consume more media because of how I've been struggling to write lately. It's a balancing act of slurping from the stagnant pond of RR and watching shit versus writing

>>25112115
>>25112120
You can use AI for more things than writing. It's preaty good at creating and curating lists and suggesting creative input.
Also visitng TV-tropes will help more than consuming random slop.

>>25112119
>"It can't be... Rank 7 Bedbug Gu...?!"

>>25112120
I sincerely hope your [insert name of this condition here] isn't as bad as mine. I haven't consistently consoomed media in a long time because I'm so stuck in my own head. I'm not even doomscrolling on social media or playing games though I unironically think I should do more of the latter. I'm just holding onto fantasies I've been wallowing in since I was a teen. Godspeed, anon.

>>25112125
>TV-tropes
still not ideal as I'm already all too familiar with this mode of quasi-consooming via several degrees of separation and abstraction
but I'll look into your suggestion for curating input

>>25112125
AI's suggestions are retarded and only tell you what you definitely shouldn't do, unless you want to be predictable as fuck and ridiculed by everyone. The results will be even worse if you start taking notes from fucking TVtropes

>>25112212
I always find it amusing how much people hate on AI. I find it hard to comprehend how people are incapable of getting value out of AI. Can it one shot write your novel? Of course not. If you try you end up with: >>25111325
But that's not all you can use AI for. You can spitball ideas, ask for suggestions, mix up your prompts with crazy shit, explore new ideas that would take too long to figure out on your own. There are many things you can do with AI that can help you write a better story. Want to know how much farmland a city needs in your fantasy world to feed itself? Ask the AI. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it will likely give you an answer that's more reasonable than "there are no farms around the city" (which is a common thing in fantasy stories).

>>25112139
>I'm just holding onto fantasies I've been wallowing in since I was a teen.
I'd like to respond to this general sentiment rather than your particular situation.

I think the best way to deal with this is to learn to write badly. Specifically learn to accept that you're going to write badly and do it anyway.
Personally, I had a half dozen story ideas that I liked before I started writing. I deliberately set them all aside and came up with something derivative and simple that I knew I could write badly without getting overly upset at the monstrosity I knew my hands would create and people would criticize. This helped me get the mechanics of writing down (actually putting out words everyday, where to put my energy drink cans, etc) and build the good habits.

I wound up writing about five books worth of bad to mid material before I even attempted writing one of my "good" ideas, which turned out to be shit actually upon looking at it but some of it was salvageable. I wound up writing, rewriting, and doing some narrative editing that was painful but in the end the story was much the better for it.

Also in the end I found that nobody IRL reads anyway, so having "written five books" is entirely a social status play at this point, and me warning people that they're not great comes off as humble bragging which ironically makes me seem more authentic, despite actually being authentic. So even those first five bad books can be useful to one's "author career" beyond just honing one's craft. One just shouldn't put too much of oneself into one's work until one is more competent and has some experience under one's belt.

>>25112224
>I always find it amusing how much people hate on AI.
I always find it disturbing how low IQ and socially maladjusted people turn AI into a turing test and fail it with gusto, treating an overgrown statistical word-guesser like it's a sentient being that actually thinks and can provide useful/reliable/correct output in anyway other than probabilistically.

An intelligent person wouldn't get any use out of "being right almost 80% of the time!", and a socially well-adjusted person wouldn't get their social/emotional needs met by a chatbot.

Personally I think the literature community (writers, critics, readers, professors) need to be way, way more harsh on any author or writer of any kind who gets caught using AI in any capacity (temporary covers don't count). Getting caught using AI even once needs to be career ending, a life-long black mark or red letter(s) that warns everyone ever after not to trust anything that person puts out. If we don't gatekeep the posers they'll overwhelm us even worse than the marxists did last century.

>>25112224
Of course you can't see anything wrong with it, because you're a total NPC yourself without any taste or creativity, focusing on retarded, meaningless things.
>how much farmland a city needs in your fantasy world to feed itself?
Who gives a shit?

my fucking wireless keyboard isn't working now. I hate my back up USB one. Thought it was the 2xA, but no. Always worked fine, now its a no go. How the fuck does this thing wear out. Electronically.

>>25112524
2xAAA

what the fuck is my favorite jewish trans lawyer novel talking about this week

>>25112524
buy an AJAZZ AK870 and MMD Sea Salt switches
thank me later

>>25112524
the battery is usual the first thing to break as it goes throug charging cycles
thats the reason why I don't do wireless keyboard and mouse

If you haven't watched Jujutsu Kaisen or Hunter X Hunter or read Er Gen novels or played games like Path of Exile, your brain just isn't prepared to write a modern litrpg and/or power system

>>25107999
>The murder of the Great King prompted the beginning of two decades of civil war. Countless pretenders rose to make their mark on the world. When it finally looked like the bloodrain had had its fill, a new storm erupted. In a moment of desperation, a defeated usurper opened the gates of the kingdom. A barbarian horde swept through the realm like a plague. The few untouched settlements found themselves torched.
I guess that's as good a way to start a story as any.

>>25112707
>had had

>>25112534
Completely skippable chapter.
>entirely trans ideology/fantasy nonsense
>hmmm this guy is struggling, how can this be made to be about the main character?!
Sure enough, author-san found a way.
>everyone comes out looking a bit like an asshole except the MC
>completely glossed over the incredibly impropriety of borrowing company property to crossdress at work
>absolutely zero lawyering and zero superheroing

I want to give the story a 0.5 star rating but can't be assed to use my alt account and "catch up" reading there.

>>25112689
JJK has one of the absolute worst power systems of all time thoughever.

>>25112766
Filtered ESL.

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>>25112764
i found it amazing that they managed to make a statement that magically transitioned peoples are just as trans as everyone else. Which is, uh, something that may or may not be an argument in certain subcultures, I guess?

>>25112771
>24 frames per second man
>twice
>curses are all jobbers and completely irrelevant as threats at all times
>muh eyes and limitless energy
>muh limitless energy and OP shikigami
>muh reverse curse healing technique
>muh not having curse energy actually makes me the strongest
>muh helicopter hair
>muh fingers
>muh bodyswapping
>muh immortality
>WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON

The power system is in fact shit. I can't actually think of a worse one off the top of my head. The story is carried entirely by fights which are drawn more like storyboard sketches than anything actually legible, so the anime is needed to clean it up and make it presentable.

>>25112774
The whole thing was an incoherent mess which is exactly what you'd expect from mentally ill people.
>crossdressing at work is necessary actually
>casual abuses of power at the firm are okay because the MC is a mary sue
>the entire concept of being trans is all confused (as you said, a magical actual complete transition either does or doesn't count, it's not clear!)
>transition is treated like a ritual or sacrament
>apparently there's a "community" and what the "community" thinks is supposed to matter
>also the issue of sex and attraction is totally hand-waived with the MC being "asexual, I guess" just so the author doesn't have to deal with any of that bag of worms

It's ACTUALLY completely unnecessary for the narrative of the story so far to have this arc with the intern. MC's trans backstory is ALMOST entirely unnecessary, except that there's family drama that spills over into the lawyering and the superhero stuff.

It also makes me sad because this is exactly the kind of fiction that should be burned, because it's the gateway to grooming impressionable youth into contagious mental illness. And it's largely unnecessary. None of this shit HAS to be in the story.

>>25112559
no charging. bluetooth only runs on 2xAAA. Nothing to break.

>>25112550
looks nice. 90 dollar keyboard, christ almighty. still, quality costs I suppose. As a writer I type a lot, go figure.

>>25112827
90? No
Go on aliexpress, get it for 50 like I did

>>25112834
>>25112827
correction, i gave the wrong number
ajazz ak820, that's the one i got

is there any point writing something that isn't power scaling wank? I just want to write some wandering fantasy slop

>>25112859
>any point
>just want to
We need something in the OP/FAQ to address this sentiment.
What are your expectations for this? You can do anything you want but depending on how off-meta you are, you may only ever get a negligible number readers which in turn means any efforts to monetise your work through the usual web fic pipeline won't result in meaningful shekels. If you're just doing this for fun then none of that matters, and nor do your concerns. Any notion of "should I...", "can I...", etc would be meaningless.

>>25112859
Just call it a frieieren-like

>>25112891
damn that's brilliant

>>25112391
>Who gives a shit?
Everybody that wants the world building in their novel to not be trash.
>Of course you can't see anything wrong with it, because you're a total NPC yourself without any taste or creativity, focusing on retarded, meaningless things.
I guess you're just too stupid to understand.
>>25112316
>An intelligent person wouldn't get any use out of "being right almost 80% of the time!", and a socially well-adjusted person wouldn't get their social/emotional needs met by a chatbot.
You are clueless. A lot echnology works on probabilities. Lots of engineering effort is used to make such systems reliable.

Also wtf is this schizo rambling about getting social validation from AI. Where do you see that topic even being discussed?
>Personally I think the literature community (writers, critics, readers, professors) need to be way, way more harsh on any author or writer of any kind who gets caught using AI in any capacity (temporary covers don't count).
The only people that matter in this group are the readers. Critics and professors can fuck off back into their bubble.

Ultimately I am glad that so many people in the writing community are vehemently against AI. They are self-sabotaging and decreasing their own chances of success. All you have to do to outcompete most of them is not be retarded like them and use the tools at your disposal.

>>25112859
Well anon, I for one, would read your story even if it was about shitters being shit forever. Unless you wrote it like garbage of course.

>>25112957
>schizo rambling about getting social validation from AI
nta but people have gotten married to AI chatbots
Theyve also gotten married to miku and other 2d characters before the ai craze so

This might be a retarded question (I am nearly certain it is) but did Japan ever do cultivation novel parodies or is it only browns who got obsessed with MTL'd webfics and then went on to write their own super cool cultivation winnies?

>>25112776
Anime was shit. The only thing they did better than the typical powerpoint slide tier single season slop was the visuals, in regards to story, characters, dialogue it was total garbage.

>>25113038
Japanese don't write and doing(illustrating) a manga parody of some 3000 chapter long chinese novel is pretty much a impossible for a single mangaka, even a team would struggle.

>>25113056
>Japanese don't write
Huh?

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>>25113056
>Japanese don't write

>>25113062
>>25113069
Kys

>>25113062
>>25113069
Japanese write? Can you give me some recs? Something that's not conscious stream, 1st person pov, female protag or harem/smut/teen drama ?

>>25113078
Huh?

>>25113079
That depends on your tastes but there are hundreds of translated light novels at this point.

>>25113038
No they don't. Most you'll see is some gag about it inside an isekai litrpg story but they don't take it seriously it all.

>>25113082
My tastes are: no conscious stream, no 1st person pov, no female protag, no harem/smut/teen drama. Do you have any recs?

>>25113078
>being a shithead who doesn't proofread posts and responds with vitriol when his typo is humorously pointed out
We got an AI user here, folks.

>>25112957
This is cope. Seething, even.
AI users are shit. Anyone who would make himself a reverse centaur is less than human.

>>25113100
>typo
Are you retarded? What part did you think was a typo?

>>25113093
Since you're being intentionally difficult, you can look through the mega that was posted a few threads ago and see if anything strikes your fancy.

>>25113112
nta but it says a lot about the writing quality of webnovels that basic requirements such as his are hard to meet lmao

>>25113109
He clearly forgot to type 'cultivation'
>Japanese don't write CULTIVATION and

It's the kind of thing proofreading catches.

>>25113115
It's not that it's difficult, it's that I don't want to waste time on some fucking retarded nigger arguing in bad faith that's just going to go "oh that doesn't count :^)" no matter what I say.

>>25113115
>basic requirements such as his
They're not requirements, they're a matter of taste.
First person POV, stream of conscious, female protag, and harem/teen/smut drama are all extremely popular narrative devices/frames or topics.

Spice and Wolf meets the requirements, btw. But he'll refuse to read it.
>no see I meant no drama at all hurrrrrr I want to read Japanese Asimov's Foundation series ACTUALLY hah gotcha

It's disingenuous to "ask for recs" as part of making a point. Such a person isn't actually asking for recommendations, and they're just planning to shit on anything they're offered. It's effectively trolling even if the poster is actually sincere due to sheer stupidity.

>>25113112
Just give me a couple of recs, is that so hard to do?

>>25108696
That sounds really neat. Kind of like making a skill stealing system that everyone can participate in. That suicide bomb ability could be tweaked to do the self damage first to get to 1hp range so that it boosts the attack.
Looks good with plenty of room to explore wherever you take the plot.

>>25113116
No, I meant what I said.

>>25113124
Boku no Pico

>>25113124
Spice and Wolf
Log Horizon
Hell Mode, I guess. Although it's not that great, but there's a lot of content and it's not first person POV
The Magician Who Rose from Failure
Altina the Sword Princess (MC is male)
The Magic in this Other World is Too Far Behind

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>>25113139
>No, I meant what I said.
>Japanese don't write

>>25113093
>My tastes are: no conscious stream, no 1st person pov, no female protag, no harem/smut/teen drama
Doesn't this mean you basically don't read winnies at all? The last one is more rare on RR but the rest exclude everything on RS right now doesn't it?

>>25113162
name 5 stories they haven't written.

>>25113176
I mostly read chinese novels, if even chinks who have 0 creativity can do it then the western authors and the japanese have no excuse.

>>25113183
Thank you for stating your position clearly. Now everyone who was thinking about arguing with you further can be called a retard if they do.

>>25113188
You're welcome, friend

>>25113188
He also ignored a post with six recommendations.
He's insincere and just wants to shitpost.

>>25113194
I can do it for him to save him some time.
>>25113148
>furshit, Japan
>SAO clone
>worse litRPG than DCC and also harem
>harem
>harem
>harem
Source: I copied the names into google + "novel updates" and checked the tags.

>>25113194
I am looking at the magician who rose from failure, do you happen to have a good source for it? I can't find it on novelbin or novelfire

>>25113197
>harem
Is >>25113200 harem?

>>25113200
nyaa.si

>>25113197
Do you think you're cool? Do you think you just won the conversation?
Actual l**dit behavior.

>>25113202
No, there's basically no romance at all.

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>>25113204
>Do you think you're cool? Do you think you just won the conversation?
No you just seemed really thin-skinned and easy to fuck with so I thought I'd test my hypothesis.

What should I read next? I'm thinking My Evil Stepson System, My Stepmom Is A Vampire & Her Entire Bloodline Wants To Breed Me, SSS rank Mother-In-Law to an Invincible Family, Why Are You Crying? Because I Married Your Mom After You Broke up with Me?, Transmigrated As An SSS Ranked MILF Overlord, God of Milfs: The Gods Request Me To Make a Milf Harem, The Isekai Milf harem!, Hunting MILFs in a Trash Eroge, Extra's Life: MILFs Won't Leave the Incubus Alone, MILF Paradise System, SSS-Class MILFs And Their Yandere Daughters, I Want Them All!, Extra: Yandere Milfs Obsessed with me!, NTR: Milf Fantasy Isekai, My Milf System, My Class? MILF Hunter. My Rank? SSS. My Problem? Too Many Wives., Milf Note, Milf Hunting System: Becoming A Milf Hunter After Transmigration, MILF Hunting in Underworld, Milf Hunter: Seducing And Taming Beauties, Milf Hunter in Another World, Leveling Up by Seducing Milfs, In Another World, All Milfs Will Be Mine, After saving milfs, they all want to own me, or GILF Hunter.

>>25113218
Just be yourself

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>>25113038
>This might be a retarded question (I am nearly certain it is) but did Japan ever do cultivation novel parodies
It's been known to happen.

>>25113056
See
>>25113229

>>25112973
That's true, but that wasn't the discussion in the thread.
>>25113038
Does Dragon Ball count?
>>25113079
Overlord?

>>25113226
Fucking rude. I Login Alone it is.

>>25113234
Isn't Overlord 1st person pov? I tried reading it after watching the anime but it very poorly written/translated.

Is Blue Phoenix any good? Has anyone here read it? The idea of a wuxia harem novel written by a woman is intriguing given how those often treat female characters.

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>>25113079

>>25113252
I liked it.

Donut's "Donut Holes"
OR
Elle's "Snow Cones"
question MARK

>>25113252
Female authors tend to treat their females worse than male authors.

>>25113365
Did anyone actually read the volume 8 prepub?
Is it any good?

>>25113430
I'm a little bit through it. Fun so far.
https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/5429305/post/150379309

Anyone been reading Assassinate Wonderwind?
Not a VRMMOslop guy but I've found it pretty enjoyable

>>25113438
I find this writing insufferable...
Am I NGMI?

>>25112859
A fair number of the big name highly popular serials aren't focused on power progression.

>>25113695
That's kinda fucked up...

>>25113385
>Female authors tend to treat their females worse than male authors.
Yeah, but we're talking about Chinese male wuxia authors here. Kinda skews the data pool.

How are those 2-3 wuxia bros ITT doing? Making good progress?

>>25113742
>>25113747
wuxia is terrible, why would anyone waste time with it

>>25113797
why do you think wuxia is terrible?

>>25113534
The writing is good, but the whole skill/scaling system makes little sense, the MC has too much plot armor (or rather, for such a popular game, it's unlikely the MC is the only one to figure out the little things), and the love interest sucks (seriously, a SEA cripple?)

So is there an alternative to kemono or are we just fucking cooked because there's no way the people running that site will ever update the importer to work on text again.

>>25113807
Oh, that's why my shit stopped getting ripped to there? Thank God, I was worried it was a sign of me losing popularity.

I'm looking for some real comedy. I'm sick of anime cliches.

>>25113819
Alpha Cultivation recently got revived and edited and released on amzn

>>25113799
he's never read any

>>25113799
It's about the theme. Wuxia theme is terrible, setting in wuxia may be fantasy, it may have power progression, but the theme generally is some uninteresting low energy crap tailored for npcs. The majority of western trad books are like that, they may have good prose, good worldbuilding etc, but their themes are mostly about mundane npc things. It's dull and uninteresting.

>>25113839
you should read some first before you go on a retarded spiel

>>25113839
Can you be more specific?
"Theme" is a pretty vague and imprecise term nowadays that people use when referring to everything from motifs to a perceived moral message the author is trying to impart.

>>25113845
Unless the bait is overwhelmingly obvious, I think it's helpful to give detractors the benefit of the doubt. I am interested in genuine criticisms.

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>>25113863
See pic related, it's more or less what I meant by it.

>>25113863
I would disagree and say it was already overwhelmingly obvious, but at least you'd certainly have to agree now after he posts a screenshot of an AI response.

>>25113872
thanks grok

>>25113882
That's a google search engine

>>25113872
>Can't even write his own troll argument anymore

>>25113872
What themes purportedly common to wuxia have you identified, and find mundane and uninteresting? What are examples of themes/works/genres that you find compelling? And just to be sure, are you aware that wuxia and xianxia are different things?

>>25113880
yes but any resulting exchange may still be interesting (or at least amusing) and spark further discussions from more serious anons with whatever material gets dredged up in the process

>>25113872
All of these people outsourcing their critical thinking and argumentation to LLMs as some sort of smug gotcha are beginning to put me firmly in the anti-AI camp

>>25113885
ask me if I care

>>25113747
Define progress. I'm pretty steady at the moment, I suppose. I coasted on people asking me for shoutouts for a solid month or so but now I'm gonna have to go back to asking people for shoutouts myself. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

>>25113915
Does the shoutout milking actually help you at all?

>>25113892
Well it's really easy, unlike thinking for yourself which is pretty hard.

>>25113915
>progress
Sounds like you're way ahead, honestly. I incorrectly assumed that since I was still backlogging, the other anons with wuxia projects were too. Are you getting much feedback?

>>25113895
I hate AI generated garbage just as much but using as a search engine is perfrctly fine.

>>25113824
Meme humor is cringe.

>>25113933
yeah but he was asked by anon to explain what he meant by themes
being unable to articulate it himself when he was saying beforehand how the themes for a genre are for npcs is delicious irony

>>25113920
I think it varies. I don't have any hard evidence backing this up or anything but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have hit RS without shoutout swaps. It's probably not strictly necessary but it does seem to help.

Swapping shoutouts with a guy with 5 followers or whatever probably isn't going to help me all that much, but I just think of those shoutout swaps as paying it forward.

>>25113932
>Are you getting much feedback?
2.5k followers and at least a couple of messages that aren't just "tftc" on most chapters. Maybe that sounds like a lot but it really isn't compared to some of the numbers others pull.

If you'll allow me to give a tip, I'd actually caution against backlogging way too much. I spent a year procrastinating and writing and I haven't stopped writing since, which means that I'm now 135 chapters ahead of even the Patreon version. I probably should've realized it myself earlier but having that much of a backlog does remove one of the strengths of the staggered releases, in that you can course-correct if necessary.

>>25113935
>being unable to articulate it himself
>when he was saying beforehand how the themes for a genre are for npcs is delicious irony
Does that somehow make the argument invalid?

>>25113961
There was no argument or further elaboration on what counts for boring or interesting themes. Merely stating something is boring isn't an argument.
Whatever has happened so far is ironic, but neither valid nor invalid.

>>25113958
I figure keeping 24 chapters (45-50l words) ahead of free releases to have the leeway to be half that ahead of patreon is sensible. Is that where you land?

>>25113965
I don't know if I can put hard numbers on it like that. It depends on how fast you can put together a chapter and what your update schedule is like. As a rule of thumb, in my personal opinion between two weeks to a month of backlog seems like it ought to be enough once the story's gotten started.

>>25113964
>Merely stating something is boring isn't an argument.
Yes it is unless you're a severely autistic person.

>>25113982
Okay then that's basically the same as what I was thinking so yippee!

>>25113991
Define boring.

>>25113999
Define define.

>>25113679
>Am I NGMI
You're not going to make it (fit in) by using newfag buzzwords.

>>25113810
No, the website shows it as updated but the text doesn't get imported. So new chapters that get released as files still can be read.

>>25113839
>The majority of western trad books are like that, they may have good prose, good worldbuilding etc, but their themes are mostly about mundane npc things. It's dull and uninteresting.
yes. you come off as highbrow and extra cool by shitting on western stuff. stay edgy my friend.

>>25114543
Was I wrong?