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seiki is best girl

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>>25116158
>Reincarnated in a fantasy world with [The Most Overpowered Shit Imaginable]
>Reincarnated in a cultivation world with the Sign-In System
>Reborn as the son of the richest man in the world with the "Most Handsome and Cock Length Increasing" System
>Reborn as the second most powerful being in all existence
>Reborn as the most powerful being in all existence
I can't say these are the most popular premises in web novel reading websites but in every top 20 there's at least 4 or 5 similar titles shuffled in there

Why is the nepo-baby experience so popular?

I am 70something% through Carl's new book.

Gu status?

>>25116177
It's called escapism? Who among us wouldn't want to fucking die?

What are you expecting, reincarnated as a power washer? Reincarnated as a European truck driver? Reincarnated as a city planner? Actually that last one is a popular genre.

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We got to see some neat takes on power systems last thread. Very good! In the later part of that thread, a particular topic came up, and that's what we're going to be focusing on this time.

/wng/ Thread Quest #7: Go over the theme(s) in your web novel. You can be as detailed or concise as you like.

They're the unseen heart of your story, present in even the slopiest of slop. Know how they form naturally and you'll be able to shape them however you like from the get go.

Good luck, and have fun!

>finally get an ao3 account
>spend hours upon hours bookmarking shit
>site goes down
I swear to fuck they better not do a rollback.

>>25116187
The alternative should be a character that has to do things to achieve their goals instead of nothing and having the world suck your self-insert character anyways
Reading those stories is a super hollow experience, even more so than the regular slop

>>25116187
Isn't it more escapist to immerse yourself in a fantasy world not at all connected to the real world?

>>25116199
Can't wait for the RI analysis.

>>25116206
>The alternative should be a character that has to do things to achieve their goals
1. Those are usually comedies.
2. Being able to punch away a mountain usually isn't a constructive ability for achieving most goals.
3. Those stories generally revolve around either social engineering, investigating, or slice of life. Or involve large, complex situations that you can't just punch away.

>>25116208
Most isekai stories do have fuck all to do with the real world. They're isekais not to connect them to the real world, but to provide a convenient vehicle for having a fish out of water protagonist that you can organically have characters explain shit to for the purposes of worldbuilding.

Also, a random first worlder is more relatable than a medieval peasant that probably can't even read and doesn't know what a shower is.

>>25116221
>Most isekai stories do have fuck all to do with the real world.
Yet they are connected because a fucking guy from modern times is there and 99% of the time it's never explained aside from some god going "oopsie woopsie, you're now dead. Have some blessings and fuck off". It's pointless and an extremely lazy way of introducing the MC that distracts me from immersing myself into the world

>>25116221
>1,2&3
Have you read your slop recently? Maybe before it was like that but the people that copied them eventually stop being ironic about it
Think about it like this: Solo Leveling is just one degree of separation from what i described before (besides the reincarnation stuff) and it's very popular

>>25116199
the eternal race-struggle that drives all of human history

>>25116177
Escapism
With that being said this is why Shadow Slave is my favorite.

>>25116256
Solo Leveling isn't isekai. Also, if you haven't noticed, Korean society is turbofucked right now.

>>25116239
>Yet they are connected because a fucking guy from modern times is there and 99% of the time it's never explained aside from some god going "oopsie woopsie, you're now dead. Have some blessings and fuck off"
Which has fuck all to do with the real world. 99% of isekai protags literally say jack shit about their lives on Earth. Hell, some of them can't even remember specific details about them because of magic. The stories are entirely about them making a new life in a new world. They might as well be amnesiacs, but having them just be isekai'd lets you avoid the existential horror that comes along with losing all your personal memories for a reason you can't explain.

Again, them being isekai'd is literally just a narrative excuse to plop a fresh slate in a setting. Their ties to Earth literally don't fucking matter.

>>25116268
>>25116239
In fact, the ties to Earth matter so fucking little, you probably couldn't even point to specific evidence an isekai protag is supposed to come from *this* Earth unless they spout shit about G*ndam or something.

>>25116268
Then what's the fucking point of it doesn't even matter that they're from Earth? I'd rather they have amnesia and the terror that comes from forgetting everything, that would say least be interesting

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>>25116285
>Then what's the fucking point of it doesn't even matter that they're from Earth?
I literally just told you? It's a convenient explanation for plopping a blank slate with 1st world sensibilities down into whatever setting you want without existential horror?

>I'd rather they have amnesia and the terror that comes from forgetting everything, that would say least be interesting
The point isn't to fucking be interesting. Who the isekai'd person was before they were fucking isekai'd isn't what you're supposed to be fucking interested in. That should be obvious from most of them being cookie cutter shlubs. If they want the MC to have baggage, they fucking give them baggage.

The point is to fucking start the fucking story where the author wants with a blank slate that can be built up from there. Not everyone wants to give their MC a detailed and interesting backstory.

So /wng/ wants an isekai story where the Earth origin actually matters and ties back into the plot later?
Pffft, nobody's gonna write that shit. That's not what the genre is for.

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>>25116285
>>25116298
Look, I get it. You want the Star Wars prequels. You want to know why some random farmer plucked off their home world is an all powerful magical being.

The lesson you should have taken from the Star Wars prequels is that actually putting effort into explaining that shit is dumb and detracts from the narrative and it's better to just say a god did it.

>>25116298
And as I said before that's fucking lazy and boring. How can i not be interested? He's the god damn main character, the one the reader is stuck with, why the hell would you make him so damn boring

>>25116315
This is by design, the more defined he is as a character the harder it is for sloppers to self insert, he only exists as a vehicle to farm aura and bag cute girls that he'll never fuck

>>25116315
>And as I said before that's fucking lazy and boring.
It's fucking supposed to be. Lazy means less work and boring means it doesn't distract from the FUCKING BRAND NEW PLANET FULL OF WONDERS UNHEARD OF AND HORNED RABBITS AND THE PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS THE MC GETS GRANTED.

You are bitching about a trope doing its job. Who the fuck reads a fucking fantasy epic and bitches about the MC's life before their village gets burned down not being interesting enough?

If it were interesting, it would fuck up the hero's journey. There would be no crossing of the threshold.

>>25116307
>So /wng/ wants an isekai story where the Earth origin actually matters and ties back into the plot later?
>Pffft, nobody's gonna write that shit. That's not what the genre is for.
Guilty of exactly that. I wanted a completely fresh take on isekai/transmigration. Things have gotten to the point that essential beats have become dogmatic canon. Do I expect fame and patreon fortune. no. just hoping someone reads it and says finally something original and different for once. A number of the required tropes have gotten to the point of paint by numbers.

>>25116315
What was Harry Potter's life like before Hogwarts? How bout Frodo before he joined the Fellowship?

>Waah, why on Earth would a writer willingly choose to cut as much boring day to day shit with no narrative consequence out of their story as possible by using a trope to completely separate their main character's mundane life from the plot? Waah!

>>25116330
Have you considered that you could have both with some effort? Just because it's a trope doesn't mean it's a law you have to blindly follow

>>25116347
>Have you considered that you could have both with some effort?
Yes. Have you considered many writers don't want to do both and there's literally an endless number of examples that don't do both? Stock isekai gets subverted plenty, but the stock trope still exists for practical reasons.

Harry Potter never made any muggle friends before learning he was a wizard or during any of his numerous breaks from school for a reason. Most stories aren't intended to be about multiple fucking worlds. If you want stories that are, go find them. I assure you they exist.

>>25116347
>Have you considered that you could have both with some effort? Just because it's a trope doesn't mean it's a law you have to blindly follow
its not anon's fault thinking that way. This way of thinking is very ingrained now.

>>25116365
>Have you considered many writers don't want to do both
Yes, and I likely won't read what they write. Because if the first few chapters aren't interesting I'm dropping the whole book

>>25116368
My brother in Christ, I'm explaining why a trope exists, not demanding it be law.

If you want recommendations on isekai where characters have interesting backstories, go read Loner Life in Another World or Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru or that one that got canceled cause the writer turned out to be a racist ultranationalist and the MC participated in the Rape of Nanking. Preferably not that last one.

>>25116365
I've given up arguing. I've taken the route of setting about trying to write the story. If it has any merit I'll find out. It can't hurt to try.

>>25116370
>Because if the first few chapters aren't interesting I'm dropping the whole book
Common sentiment. It's almost like that might be a reason isekai start with the MC being thrown into a fantasy world or something and don't spend weeks getting into their lifestyle and relationships that they'll never see again.

>>25116372
its cool bro. I've been deliberately staying away from other isekai for a reason. I want if possible a fresh take on things. Not knowing how things are supposed to or commonly get done in my way of thinking keeps me from getting infected. Not the right word or way to say it but the closest I can come up with on short notice. I sat and thought about some things and they just didn't make sense to me. I'm trying to make things as plausible and as realistic as I can. Yes I realize how silly it sounds that its a fantasy story and I'm shooting for realistic or believable but I think you know what I mean by that. Sometimes it takes an outsider to look around and see things a different way.

>>25116372
Oh I understand why it exist as a trope. I just absolutely despise it. Every time I open a new novel and it starts with done sob story of the MC dying, or truck kun sending them on their way and they meet some god and get sent to some other world my eyes roll to the back of my head.
I cannot stand it, really. Then there's the mandatory chapter of them reacting to being in another world. It's so common I just skip two or three chapters into the story just to be spared from having to read it. And honestly anyone using such a trope has to be extremely unimaginative, the world itself is probably indistinguishable from countless others with elves and the usual races

>>25116201
when they put it back up please put kudos on my fanfic

>>25116381
Harry Potter of a terrible example. He is a human on Earth, wizards are like a secret society on the planet. Normal humans are a big part of the story and he interacts with his adoptive family many times over the books. Isekai beginning is like the beginning of Harry Potter but instead of being told he's a wizard he fucking dies and gets transported to another world

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>>25116307
>Pffft, nobody's gonna write that shit. That's not what the genre is for.
SHUT UP!

>>25116307
That is basically Wandering Inn desu

>>25116403
in my case my main sin seems to be that I want the MC to have been ass pulled for a plot purpose reason. No explanation is given and no god trope. these are things the MC has to figure out for themselves. The required second sin is only that the first chapter needs to let you know who and what the MC was in our world. Since it becomes important to the plot later this is required information. I try to handle it without it being an info dump. second chapter they are in the new world. I couldn't bring myself to do yet another school story once there. i also didn't populate the world with elves and shit. i don't want a complete cookie cutter story. You do realize people used to self insert into MC long before the modern webnovel tropes were adhered to. If it doesn't work it doesn't work I just wanted to try it.

>>25116428
>He is a human on Earth
Physical location, while a component of the definition of isekai as a genre, is not actually narratively important to examples of the genre itself as a rule. What's narratively important is the separation of worlds. And the world outside the wizarding world might as well not fucking exist in Harry Potter for all it fucking matters.
>Normal humans are a big part of the story
They aren't.
>he interacts with his adoptive family many times over the books
His adoptive family are aware of the existence of wizards and therefore do not count as part of a separate world any more than Hermione's family does.

>>25116443
You're free to do whatever you want, I'm not criticizing your story. I haven't even read it. But have you considered maybe starting the story a couple weeks after the MC has gotten whisked away from Earth? What's the downside?

>>25116445
Normal humans are a big part of the story in the sense of how much trouble the wizards go through to conceal their presence. It's a very pervasive theme present in the writing. The story would be completely different if muggles didn't exist

>>25116452
in addition to who the MC was being important later on also the manner in which they got kun'd was as well. You well might be right though, and if it calls for a rewrite I might have to dribble all that out in bits and pieces.

>>25116452
one common trope that never sat well with me was that the death in this world was always little more than a sentence. then they wake up in the other world and its as if they don't freak out one bit about having a brand new body. I can't imagine waking up in a strange world with a new body and not freaking the fuck out. I spent a little time on the MC accepting it. I also felt it would be interesting to describe the transmigration. The experience and the sensations. This is usually lacking from the isekai's i've spot checked on.

>>25116471
That's true, a lot of them seem to just forget about it. But then again I feel like you have to be a very good writer to get me to care about what happens to a character I was just introduced to, and that's after having them whisked away into another dimension/planet. I, as a reader, can't really relate to those things

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>binge path of dragons for the past two weeks
>catch up to patreon and have nothing more to read
>feel that post-binge mailaise
I need another series to binge, a time machine, or dementia.

>>25116499
You could always take a look at something from people here, assuming you haven't already.

>>25116342
Harry's life was shit before Hogwarts amd Frodo's life in the Shire was an idyllic peaceful existence that he longs to return to.

>>25116312
>getting filtered by midichlorians in 2026

>>25116460
That's like saying Earth is a very big part of isekai stories in the sense that the MC can't go back to it.

Also, what fucking trouble? The UK government knows about wizards and they literally have train tracks that run to their secret magic school. Did we read the same books?

>>25116528
>Frodo's life in the Shire was an idyllic peaceful existence that he longs to return to
Wasn't he robbed by all his neighbors the second he left?

What's the ideal size for the main party?

>>25116575
>What's the ideal size for the main party?
Adventurers? 4-6
Warband? 32-40

Started reading Desolate Era again

>>25116612
>32-40
isn't it more a warorchestra at that point?

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>>25116307
there was a cool MAR thread on /a/ yesterday
>>25116671
rereading or trying to read the series in its entirety for the first time?

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>>25116748
I stopped reading it for a year

>>25116764
how far did you read about ji ning practicing his sword farts

>>25116471
>I can't imagine waking up in a strange world with a new body and not freaking the fuck out.
The Japanese are TIRED on a spiritual level that you cannot even imagine comprehending.
Korea is like that but instead of resignation and zetsubou they're angry and psychotic.
Same with China.
I bet the Indonesians are like that too.

>>25116499
I found Azarinth Healer binge-able but I don't know how like Path of Dragons it is.
>14k followers
>Patreon 175+ chapters ahead $15/mo
Holy crap, the blurb didn't hook me but there must be something there.

>>25116786
They are similar enough. Path of Dragons has like 10k pages to read with some plot points staying far too long so be prepared to skim a bit when it becomes tiring. It's akin to defiance of the fall, so not great, but also not terrible. Just some enjoyable enough slop for the trough.

>>25116452
If I may play doubles advocate... you could start a story a few weeks after the main character got isekaied. After he settled into his role and got over the shock of it all. You could do that.

But do you remember the movie Groundhog Day? Bill Murray repeats the same day over and over? Originally, the film started with him a few weeks after the time loop started, and he was settled in. Can you imagine how much worse that movie would have been with the whole first act removed? Without all those scenes of Phil realizing he's in a time loop? Those are some of the best moments.

But then you've got something like the 89 Batman movie, which does take place a few months or a year after Bruce started being Batman, and that worked just fine.

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40K VIEWS
7k more since my book ended.
Not bad, I guess,

Since everybody is suddenly interested in isekai and the real world in this thread, here’s an idea that’s been rolling around in my head for a while:

Technology is fake. What we call technology, from computer chips to nuclear reactors, are actually magical devices imported from other dimensions through a series of portals around the world. For thousands of years, these portals have been the true source of human progress and the rise of various empires and superpower states throughout history. They are the reasons behind every global conflict and are the key to world domination.
The reason the world’s governments have kept their existence a secret is tied directly to what we use to trade for these “technologies”:
Human souls.
Souls are the key ingredients of mana stones, and mana stones are used for pretty much everything magic-related. So the elites of Earth and other worlds have a vested interest in maintaining this trade alive and hidden, no matter the cost.
The MC is an Earthling who has been recruited into an interdimensional intelligence agency tasked with safeguarding the trade routes and protecting Earth’s interests across multiple worlds from spies, terrorists, otherworlders, and the most dangerous threat of all, human rights activists.
The MC could start out as a naive James Bond wannabe who doesn’t understand the truth of the soul trade. Then, after a few twists and turns, he uncovers the truth and teams up with old enemies to bring down the whole system.

>>25116941
that's nice and all but that's not a story, that's just a setting

>>25116941
Bro, you just need a math book from that portal to get the same technology in a couple of years.

Any wungs that involve party building, rather than a focus on adventuring itself? Like a tactical RPG of hiring the right talents, but it's a story.

>>25117005
>>25116922
I'm kinda doing it. Each narrative arc showcases a different character, but half of them are or will be the MC's enemies.

>>25117005
>wungs
We're not calling them that. I'm putting my foot down.

Weekly chapter reviews

Pale Lights (patreon) : Tupoc , you crazy bastard , we love to hate you but this was awesome.
Years of the Apocalypse (patreon) : Hmmm , would curent Mirian even care that Ibrahim has her family? Anyway , the chapter went way too fast , I need more.
100 Reigns : new Reign , promises to be fun. And oh boy , everybody just fucking hated Balzam , even in his final loop. Simon played him perfrctly. Intersting that the Throne learns and covers class weaknesses.
Player 04 : eh , nothing much happened. Just some lore drops.
Apocalypse Reborn : I did not expect the Gaurdians to fail so badly. I don't know if I like it.

On trial :
One Was Worthy : just as i feared. Minimal min-maxing breaks the system. I'll give it another week.
Time Looping for dummies : this is going well but the chapters are comming out way too slow. Frustrating if this was indeed published elsewhere first.

Dropped :
RE:Knight : Yeah , fuck the MC , I'm not into edgy "i killed him out of pity" crap. Also the sudden nerf on Keen Senses was expected. Amateur hour for the writer.

thoughts on unsounded?

>>25117079
not particularly, haven't ever heard of it

>>25117079
Sounded would've been way worse.

>>25117079
unsouled? it's good; cultivation stuff is typically wn, but it has trad narrative stuff going on and it's done relatively well

>>25117079
Unalived?

>>25117079
Unsouled? Overall good. If you really want cultivaiton it might be a bit too western for you, I've heard it semi-accurately described as "capeshit with a xianxia skin"

>>25117079
>thoughts on unsounded?
The diary of an alien abduction dodger?

Any new decent fictions on RR? Liking the attorney to the villainess and cruel violet ones, but can't find anything else lately.

>>25117005
I prefer wanger
but yes, that's part of my story

I'm so tempted to exclude female lead tag, Why can't they make Female MC tag? So many stories use that tag just because one of the female characters had somewhat big role for a time.

>>25117191
to define a female lead you've got to first define what a female is

>>25117192
Too many female mc stories has the same personality, I thought they took note from Kumo, but where?

>tfw no "Non-Binary Deuteragonist" tag
>tfw no "Pansexual Antagonist" tag

>>25117191
If only there was a description on the story page that says who is the main character, like a short summary, or synopsis or something like that

>>25117267
That's not the problem. The problem was Male MC story who mostly has Male MC POV but still has that tag for ungodly reason.

>>25117269
Why do you care about the tag?

>>25117269
POV character and protagonist aren't the same thing. That's a more forgivable mix-up than protagonist and hero, but it's still a mix-up.

>>25117280
I don't want to miss stories, but I'm also tired with seeing female mc stories on the search page.

>>25117284
You could've just started with "I'm heavily autistic" so I wouldn't have wasted time trying to make sense of this

>>25117287
What, am I the only one who find it wrong for a story to be tagged with both male lead and female lead just because it has a heroine?
There's already multiple lead characters tag, but people usually just use all three.

>>25117289
It's clearly because spergs will seethe if they go read a manly story about a manly man doing manly things, and then have to sit through an extended section focused on a woman, so adding the tag is the lesser evil, because then these people can just filter the tag and not come seethe at the story. There's no separate setting for schizos who don't want to filter female leads but also don't want to read them but will still read them and just rant about the tag.

>>25117294
>don't want to read them
>but will still read them
No.
If I can blacklist a story from Search Page with a click, I would do that for every female mc story I find.

>>25117289
Did you just discover the shortcomings of the tagging design pattern? Never searched for porn?

>>25117297
So filter the tag and shut up, retard

>>25117303
I don't remember this being the case in the past. Though, that's probably because there weren't any male or female lead tags back then.
But now that they exist, why do people refuse to use them as Male/Female MC tag?
Actually, wasn't that how it worked before? I remember there being a 'Male Main Character' tag, but they changed it.
>>25117307
I don't understand why you're so angry. This thread is much better than the previous one. The other one was basically unreadable.

>>25117294
This
If a story has multiple leads or a strong female character it has to be tagged appropriately so that readers know in advance to skip it.

>>25117312
>a strong female character
Do you mean a character with strong presence in the story or...?

>>25117315
Yes

>>25117297
you're like the vegan of web novels

>>25117321
Vegans didn't get tired of meat. That's a terrible comparison.
Also, I just checked, and the top-rated stories do regard the tag as Male/Female MC.
However, it's still a problem for me since I'm specifically looking for new stories.

>>25117325
>hey guys did you know that i hate FeMCs?
>btw did i ever mention that i hate FeMCs?
>damn i just hate FeMCs, did you know that?
>is that a FeMC? as a FeMC hater, i just hate that
webnovel vegan

>>25117329
I see, let's just agree to disagree.

>>25117329
Nta
I wish I could go vegan, eating animals makes me feel bad but healthwise I am unable to live on vegan diet.

>>25117329
>You MUST worship my femslop or you're my political strawman!!!!

>>25117361
Nobody's saying femcs need to be worshipped either.
Classic vegan argument of claiming detractors are all extremist carnivores.

Threadly reminder not to reply to Tinashit.

>>25117391
>detractors are all extremist carnivores.
They're all goonbrains though.

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Why is this one s popular? I feel likeI'm reading the script of a Cartoon Network show for kids. MC is so powerful that stakes are non-existent. The world is generic. Comedic situations are frequent, but not funny in the least.

>>25117472
Why are those CN shows popular? Why is Heretical Fishing popular? Same shit. Readercattle.

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two new patrons in one day, yey
we're all gonna make it bros

>>25116307
It's central to the plot in Reverend Insanity

>>25117496
No it's not.

>>25117472
Popularity is about marketing and luck.

The Plan: I'm gonna make more money from peddling a web fiction marketing course/paid community than the web slop I'm writing

>>25117522
During a goldrush, he is rich who sells shovels and all that

When I'm horny I have this weird desire to write erotica but I end up just nutting to porn and that desire evaporates. This feels like such a waste.

>Carl gets temporarily transformed into a German Dachshund
>AI changes his name to Karl
>Donut fixes it but leave his name in all-caps as CARL
lol
the little things

I am 82% through Carl's new book and NOT looking forward to the next ~year without Carl.

>>25117549
You sure love [pejorative buzzword], huh

>>25117472
Mainly good timing and marketing. It found a niche that wasn't being provided for (hence why so many have tried to imitate it) and it wasn't bad enough that people dropped it once they started reading.
> MC is so powerful that stakes are non-existent.
And that is what many readers are after. Something comfy and easy to read. Drama is overrated.

>>25117576
imagine seething this much that DCC is widely considered the embodiment of reddit writing

>>25117361
Says he while setting up a political strawman

>>25117576
>>25117600
>samefagging because you didn't get a reply within 30 minutes

>>25117418
It's become impossible to tell in these threads, who is genuinely mentally ill, who is merely pretending, and who is just retarded but good-intentioned

>>25117418
The same guy who makes these posts, right? >>25116199

/sffg/ used to have question/discussion prompts in the OP until newfags threw a fit and shat up the thread, that way every thread is regurgitation over the same nonstop shit topics ad nauseum. Anti-intellectual newfags will do anything possible to stop other people from discussing things they don't personally approve of.

>>25117615
What if I'm all three? Huh? Bet you didn't consider that.

>>25117549
>>25117576
>>25117600
I don't even understand what's going on anymore
who's hating? who's slopping? this is like reading early LLMs argue with each other using words without knowing the context

>someone seems to enjoy DCC
>someone responds to the DCC enjoyer in a vague way that could be interpreted as calling out DCC enjoyers but also DCC detractors
>chaos ensues

>>25117624
I've made some posts across the past couple of threads about reading through Carl's new book, and some buzzword-spamming newfag took personal offense to it. I think the [pejorative] post was in jest, as the first responder immediately retaliated with his buzzwords.

all parroted buzzwords aside, I just think DCC reminds me of teens misconstruing edginess/crassness as maturity, almost like that whole "culture" behind NewGrounds-era flash games.

>>25117642
eh , I don't see it. The show is the show (like Running Man) but the pain and suffering (and genoside) is real.

do you dream of being a top-rated royal road writer one day yourself?

>>25117642
You do realize that not every body in the world experiences a positive upbringing and childhood, and some people have traumatic events happen to them due to external factors, right? Suffering and pain is not a fictional concept just because you were brought up in affluence.

>>25117665
If we're really gonna use the word "dream", then, no.
I dream of being some kind of deplatformed l'enfant terrible of web fiction who rejects the KU pipeline, invitations to shadowy Discord cabals, and WebNovel contracts, Royal Road hobnobbing, etc; my readers must resort to mail order zines I personally print from a restored risograph setup in order to access my story.

>>25117663
>>25117674
I'm not denying the seriousness of those elements. I don't think they're handled well; their inclusion doesn't inherently mean something is well-written.

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How do you anons come up with names for your MC? I want my MC to have a memorable name but at the same time unique and not complicated enough where it sounds like a autistic OC.
Something easy to remember.

>>25117694
john webnovel

>>25117689
You were talking about themes.
Writing is good with only some pacing issues on later books. I don't personaly know any webnovel with better writing , apart from Pale Lights.

>>25117694
I think about calling mine Lancelot cause his parents were mediavalboos

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AI tells that to everyone presenting their script to it, amirite?

Nonetheless, now I am really motivated to write a shitty novel with 3 monthly readers.

>>25117701
More like Incelot
LOL

>>25117708
lmao

>>25117700
but Pale Lights is badly written too.........

>>25117713
lol , ok

>>25117704
Your story is not only good---it's wonder, a testament to the rich tapestry of cultural significance and medieval lifestyle.

>>25117717
He's right though.

>>25117704
it's very sycophantic, yes
even when trained not to be, it will just randomly be hostile to balance its metrics and then go back to tonguing your balls (or tonguing your balls but backhanded)

>>25117725
nah

>>25117700
I liked Nowhere Stars' level of trauma compared to DCC.

>>25117620
I'm actually a different author that's in the spreadsheet.

I am fucking terrible at ending chapters man.
Even if I'm trying to do the sudden cut off approach I can't get enough immediacy half of the time.

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>>25117809
Just put a plot twist.
It's so easy.

>>25117809
Every chapter should end with bait for the next chapter.
In webnovels you are feeding addicts on loop

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>>25116307
If you are looking for this i recomend The Wandering Inn.
Been reading it for a few years now. it's written in a way that makes it very enjoyable to read. and it's a epic fantasy when it get's going.

I keep having these intrusive thoughts of "it would be funny if I wrote X or Y into the book and had MC react in this or that way" where it would be very fucking risky to do that
But now I'm thinkin of my caste, having my "semi-evil but not an antagonist" support character do all that shit, then I can do it safely, and just deflect any accusations with "yeah duh that's what that character is"

>>25118084
coward

>gotta reread to do continuity notes now before it becomes a mess
>slight differences between copies in google docs and on my drives
>gotta work out which ones are more up to date with edits.
Hilarious problem to get myself into.

>>25116199
Loss, dealing with it, and life going on for surviving loved ones and friends, and the human cost of war. Is it better to live in a budding, enlightened autocracy or a decadant flawed democracy

>>25117536
the answer here is to write so hot you can't take it anymore. then beat your dick like it stole twenty bucks out of your wallet so you can get back to writing even hotter. That's how you know the gooners will appreciate your work.

>>25117283
amen. people think my one work is POV lead. Its really not. the real protagonist is just seen and experienced through their eyes.

>>25118154
Everyone learns version control the same way: by fucking it up once or multiple times first.
For me I now keep dated backups of my main draft document, and posted chapters get an individual file in a folder (backed up), and when I fix typos on site I fix them in that chapter file at the same time.

When it comes time for epub I collate those individual chapter files and put them in the pre-book document individually with proper book formatting, then convert that pre-book document into the epub.

If I make major structural edits I just increment the version number of my draft document and don't touch the old ones anymore.

Keep in mind the best system is the one that works for you.

What would Spectral Soul do?

>>25118454
id twist u into a fucking pretzel kid i swear to god

>>25117694
rip off nasu and write names with absolutely unhinged spelling but regular pronunciation.

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>>25116158
Been a while since I've been on /lit/ so it was odd seeing Kidnapped Kot as an OP image. Shame its original TL got nuked and then novelpia just threw all the raws into the MTL machine.

>and here's the local town brothel, of course the town is 1000000 KM and even the hallways here are 30KM wide

Its been over a year since I checked in on RRL. Anything good come along since then?

>>25118854
novelpia is a fucking plague, seems like KR novels are on borrowed time now unless you want to read dogshit mtl
i hate korean companies so much its unreal

>>25119017
It's actually funny how terribly they operate in every single industry. Nobody is as consistently awful across the board as they are.

>>25119017
honestly i’m tempted to write very thinly veiled super pro-Imperial Japanese WN slopganda and somehow get it hosted by novelpia to piss off their native audience

>>25119131
I don't think they have Global to Korean translation

Is it true that Orcs in Japanese media look like pigs because of a misunderstanding of a line in Lord of the Rings?

>>25119183
Wouldn't be surprising. That's similar to why they have dog-like kobolds over there.

>>25119183
I thought it was because of early DnD depictions, not LotR? Though you could then argue about what influenced DnD.

>>25119183
No, it's from DnD, like everything else in anime

>>25119207
>dog-like kobolds
AD&D monster manual, original illustrations. looks like a evil "dog furry" with a morning star

Forcing myself to keep going to hit a word count and then realizing I'm literally the only person in the world who even knows it exists

>>25119358
I know it exists. It's ok.

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>>25119183
DnD ripped off LotR. Sword World ripped off DnD. Everything in Japan is based off Sword World. The weird orc and kobold depictions come from DnD.

I finished Carl's new book and now I am stuck in purgatory for the next year. :<

>>25119631
Have you read Reverend Insanity yet?

>>25119769
I would be the first in line to pile your body on top of Bakkerfag's and set the pyre ablaze.

>>25119774
Spotted the seething Sandi fan.

>>25119783
You've been spamming and shitting up the board for over 6 years. I extend the same offer to you as I did Bakkerfag: Meet me anywhere within the continental 48 States within a month. It can be in a public area.

>>25119791
What do you want to meet for?

>>25119800
isn’t it obvious, RIfag?

what does an anon whose dao you’ve severed want to do with you, i wonder.

>>25119800
We're going to use our sex change Gu on you.

>>25120109
That does not benefit me. I do not wish to meet him.

>>25120126
Gu Master!

The masculine urge to ship my characters with each other and give them happy families

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>>25117487
Congrats, darling. You are going places, I can feel it. Bless you and good luck!

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I like some novelpia slop. I'm reading this at the moment. It's fun. MC is a massive physics nerd and reincarnates but just wants to get his PhD and do research with the help of his Nyarlathotep waifu who gives him quests to do interesting shit and rewards him when he does interesting shit.

>>25120715
is the translation better than the usual sub-2012 quality MTLs they offer

>>25119425
DnD did not entirely rip off LOTR. It's based on a bunch of stuff. Ie the magic is Vancian.

>>25119425
>>25119245
Elves come from just regular European myths

>>25120715
>massive physics nerd
>graviton
lmao

>>25120878
?

>>25120905
Looking at the "The Toll-Road to Immortality (Xianxia)". Is there romance/teen drama in this? It's not in tags and I have not seen it mentioned in the comments but that not saying much given it's rr

>>25120926
If I had a dollar every time a slopper writes a "physics nerd" and the scientific approach is just to pull a black hole out of his ass, I could buy Steam now

It's fucking funny how many stories on RR slap "archmage" on the title now just because. Archmage swordsman. Archmage assassin. Archmage baker. Archmage janitor.

>>25120998
RR trend chasing is hilarious because it only ever works on stories that probably would have taken off without doing it.

>writing something
>kinda boring
>but wn readers love SoL slop
dunno to keep it or cut it

>>25121010
If you already wrote it and you aren't releasing a physical publication that has associated printing costs and it doesn't fuck with your plot at all cause it's SoL, there is literally no reason to cut it.

Nobody on God's green earth reads serials for good pacing and if you're that concerned you can just call it an extra chapter.

>>25120994
Look, sometimes pulling a black hole out of your ass is just the right answer. I was playing this RPG once and I have steal everything and don't get caught OCD when it comes to RPGs and the game was not designed around that in mind, but it turned out they added a black hole spell as DLC and you could hit your party with it while sneaking to have it act as a gravity slingshot to massively increase your sneak speed to get through enemy detection radiuses. This is literally the only way to sneak faster. There are interactions you can only see by doing this, like some guards you are forced to kill due to a misunderstanding turning neutral if you sneak past them to their leader.

Sometimes you just need to Kessel Run shit.

>>25121010
You already wrote it. Unless it actively fucks up the story, keep it. Webnovels are a fatty genre. This is also why stuff like Brothers Karamazov is so overwrought, serials have always been like this.

>>25121030
NTA
I was having a bit of a time at first trying to write sci-fi fantasy (as opposed to regular fantasy). As in, I normally write "fantasy with sci-fi stuff in it" and now I'm writing "sci-fi that reaches the point of fantasy". And that different direction of approach was giving me a bit of a hard time. But I think I've finally slipped into the appropriate technobabble mindset where I have no trouble talking about how a micromissile has enough "compact plasmic propellant and charge in its hypercapacitor" to fly so and so many meters OR do one sharp turn

>>25121043
Do you actually have a purpose for the micromissiles in your setting?
In a cyberpunk setting where a guy can be turned into a walking tank with augments it would be handy to have one over a regular gun.

>>25121043
I like scifi but the fantasy+scifi is garbage, really if I am reading about magic and spells then I do not want to supercapacitors and propellants.

>>25121049
This specific instance was a guy carrying around a micromissile revolver to deal with stuff that particle accelerators (the standard guns used by traveling cultivators, the common low-tier ones have impact similar to modern full-size rifle cartridges). It's a very good but somewhat uncommon type of weapon system. They definitely fulfill a specific niche, but I would end up textwalling if I actually went and tried to explain what niche it is, because I would also have to explain all the other common personal weapon systems and their niches.

Micromissiles, by default, have the role of "light anti-materiel munitions". You carry a launcher if you think like might come across big fuckoff mutant boars or something like that.
They can naturally carry a wide variety of payloads. They generally come in the 25mm to 40mm diameter range. They have a short-to-medium range bracket. They are also highly resistant to guidance disruption because they're usually guided from the launch platform based on the platform's own sensors, basically wire-guided without a wire.

>>25121052
When it comes to the direction of "fantasy with sci-fi" I approach it from the realism angle. The economy of my primary fantasy-with-scifi setting is basically a whaling one, but instead of whale oil it's a type of magical fuel. More or less demon cores as per xianxia plus monster hunter.
These people have lived with readily available magic for thousands of years and have gone through their own path of technological advancement.
I tend to avoid the most sci-fi-y stuff for that setting for the same reason you mentioned, to maintain a sense of it being a fantasy setting. Guns are around and available, but they've been relegated to a somewhat specialist role so automatics aren't popular, because it's hard to make automatics play nice with magic bullets and 99% of people don't even have the means to load a 12-round mag with magic bullets, lets alone a 30-rounder. So someone can, theoretically, have an AK, but it will be a craft-produced one-off designed to not just specifically eat Fireball Bullets, but THAT ONE GUY'S PERSONAL Fireball Bullets, because the same spell varies based on the user to some extent.

>>25121058
correction:
to deal with stuff that particle accelerators couldn't dispatch

>>25121058
So using magical energy to fuel scifi gadgets? Why not use magic as an excuse to make high tech impossible, like in xianxia dao usually prevents or changes physics to the point where anything more complicated than a wheel on horse drawn cart will not function.

>>25121052
>really if I am reading about magic and spells then I do not want to supercapacitors and propellants
What about lenses?

>>25121063
>Why not use magic as an excuse to make high tech impossible
Because that wasn't my design thesis going into that setting. I wanted to make a setting that would support certain aesthetics and ideas that I wanted to have in it, and the rest of it grew around that. I wanted guns but I wanted to limit them at the level of the late 1800s at most. I wanted widespread body modification. There are computers, but at their smallest and most compact they're the size of typewriters. Instead of hard-drives, a big computational unit uses a literal obelisk for data storage. The dominant media are books and home video, but rather than screens, there are holoprojectors. It's a sort of magical retro-cyber-futurism. Fundamentally, my worldbuilding is "take a bunch of things I like from other media, put them in a big pot, then stew it and stir around in my head until something distinct comes out"

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my performance of what is so far my best effort. PIC REL

>>25121070
like not steampunk but similar kind of deal

>>25121083
steampunk is definitely an influence, it kind of pingpongs between steampunk, dieselpunk, retrofuturism, also art-deco and art-nouveau aesthetic (but that's dieselpunk already)
a lot of organic or semi-organic machinery, using the preserved muscles of giant monsters for heavy machinery where we would use hydraulics is an obvious use-case
they have the means to completely bypass many of the issues we would face with using organic matter because religious mystical rituals also come into play, the Big ChurchTM is not only not corrupt but highly competent and spearheads research in many fields

>>25121064
Lenses should be ok and should work under magic

Why is nobody posting? What's wrong you, people?

>>25121279
We are all reading or writing

>>25121223
ooh. focusing, or de-focusing, a spells effect. I like this. a wide-area spell, could be concentrated in a tiny area to a tiny but high impact. a small area high effect, could be effect lessened but spread out a lot. i like it.
example. raise temperature by a couple degrees, wide area.
under a lens could become like a laser beam. or vice versa.

scifi is not real

you are not real

fiction is not real? who knew.

Is dungeon core still a doable sub-genre?

>>25121771
> OP Archmage Reborn as a Dungeon
sure

Read Tenebroum

>>25121806
Genuinely won't just because it spammed adverts on here.

>>25121827
same lol
i started it recently, then remembered the ads and stopped

>>25121827
What? It had actual ads on 4chan?

>>25121832
Just spammed the fuck out of "Read Tenerbum" and the cover image in /sff/

>>25121834
Ah, the RI strategy, a bold move.

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>>25121279
Writing the next chapter in small increments. Experimenting with the Rama method of shorter chapters as economically concise and short as possible while still progressing the story, the characters and the world in some way or form. Reading Moon is a harsh mistress whenever I'm away from the pc. In the mean time been playing classic marathron and it's fucking knee-shattering brutal. Love the lore writing though, very stellar. Might steal it in my own writing.

>>25121279
>read DCC
shat on by non-reading newfag nitpickers
>read Necroepilogos
no replies because only one other person has read it (which is surprising because I thought it was fairly megapopular)
>read Nowhere Stars
no replies because nobody has read it other than the one guy above
>read Infinite Realm
i actually haven't followed in a while because it keeps going on and on but I've mentioned it a few times and I'm surprised that not one person has picked it up considering it forces everybody into a world with the option to 1) cultivate, 2) level up like a class, or 3) develop skills all squashed together
>read MoL
part 1 had promise but looking back it wasn't worth sticking it out for the remaining 3 with the way it ended and the stagnation of quality
>read that one story I forget the name of by the guy who writes 1% Lifesteal
pretty fucked up Japanese-tier misery porn but the guy had some demons of his own in his head
>read 30 some chapters of Bookbound Bunny
cutesy slice of life not for me
>read 20 something chapters of Years of Apocalypse
i think it's funny the femMC -- in typical fem fashion -- does nothing and only tries to alert others. zzzzzzzzzzz
This thread sucks like /sffg/. Every thread is an endless ouroboros of the same megapopular stories. At least your range of reading does appears much wider so I've found some material thanks to this thread.

>>25121971
finally a post i can somewhat respond to
>read Necroepilogos
I did like this but i havent kept up with it in something like 6 months. Really enjoyable setting.
>read Nowhere Stars
Again the setting is really cool but the conflict didn't draw me in to keep me interested. The ideas at work here are indeed creative but none of the characters were fun for me.
>Japanese-tier misery porn
Haven't read this work but I also haven't really read anything from the japs I'd consider outstanding misery porn. Apartment for Rent is chinese, and probably one of the most fucked things ive read while wallowing in misery with no exit works seem cornered by the koreans. But I also enjoy misery porn so.
>Years of Apocalypse
This has one glazer here but like you nothing about this story appeals to me at all.
I don't know when you posted about these stories but I think fundamentally the most read people are just gonna keep reading instead of ritualpost and shitpost, because they actually like reading.

you should read Puppetmaster: Army of One, actually

>>25122030
Author anon I have read your work but I'm waiting on more chapters so i can read more at once.

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Well, I've just spent several weeks favoriting any remotely interesting web novels I can find on every site I can think of.

Total counts:
Scribblehub: 290
RoyalRoad: 89
Wattpad: 463
Webnovel: 7
Archive of Our Own: 320
Novel Bin: 698
Freewebnovel: 17

It was interesting to see the different functionalities and site cultures, and I found a lot of interesting series. I, however, do not recommend anyone ever fucking do this bullshit. I've seen some horrid shit, and beyond that some of these sites are borderline non-functional. Ao3 needs tag reform desperately and a way to search series. Wattpad somehow has 2 different search systems and neither of them work for half a damn. Webnovel's chapter locking is horrendous. RR just came across as Scribblehub but worse in terms of site content. Freewebnovel's 100 bookmarks limit is fucking stupid. A ton of shit has incorrect tags on Novel Bin and its search system is literally nonfunctional, so I basically just used it to save series I searched on Freewebnovel to get around the cap and most of those were series stolen from Webnovel and Novelpia, which were both completely unusable. Only reason I have anything saved on Webnovel is I found some shit with no chapter locks while checking tags and update/completion status before saving shit to Novel Bin.

Final Thoughts: Scribblehub doesn't get enough praise. RR has no reason to exist. There's a lot of good romance novels on Wattpad if you can learn to use their more functional shitty search engine.

>>25122039
What in the world is worth reading on scribblehub? I genuinely haven't seen a single story. The only rec was some anon writing their own story on it which didn't seem worth reading either.

>>25122052
I'm enjoying Maternal Slime so far and I'm probably gonna check out I Got Reincarnated As My Own Long Lost Sister But I’m Actually Ok With This? next after I get to a stopping point on The Hivemind Is Conquering for Me? on Novel Bin. Also Heaven, Earth, Me is on Scribblehub and it seems popular.

If you just want to look at my shit taste, here's everything I favorited bearing in mind it should almost all be 80k+ words long and complete or updated relatively recently.

>https://pastebin.com/iWF8HVjc

>>25122052
I'm on scribblehub. But I'll be damned if I'll link you to it. This place is toxic. some asshole will just come and shit the place up. We all seen the shit happen before. I'm on scribblehub for the same reasons that anon just said so. Best overall site, even if it doesn't have all the coolest stories yet. I consider SH the minor leagues. When I get my shtick down there, I'll try RR. and hey if you're on RR already why not cross post your story to SH. what can it hurt.

>>25122072
It seems like you actually agree with me? I asked what was worth reading there and you went on to say it doesnt have the coolest stories.
>>25122069
Thanks, I'll give these a look as I was looking for things to read.

>>25122069
I actually recognize one of those. The author posted on the /trash/ write thread.

>>25122080
>It seems like you actually agree with me? I asked what was worth reading there and you went on to say it doesnt have the coolest stories.
the site itself, is the best i've found so far. the content is, not sure how to explain it. it ain't rr, that's for sure. and its not got the highest number of works on it. lots of faggoty and girly stuff. I mean seriously. A litrpg, where you level up gardening, making friends, and being nice? *urp*. shit like this gets attention there, too. RR declared war on smut a while back, this place allows a much higher smut content. hence the nickname, smuthub.

>>25122080
>It seems like you actually agree with me? I asked what was worth reading there and you went on to say it doesnt have the coolest stories.
as an author, I'm actually on your list. I just saw my webnovel listed in your link. that means you actually looked at it and liked it? Thanks.

Any good regression sloppa? Years of the Apocalypse was pretty boring I need a detox

read a story with a convent set up
was pretty comfy. any recs with this sorta setting?

>>25122182
seconding this

>>25116187
>What are you expecting, reincarnated as a power washer? Reincarnated as a European truck driver?
I assume the truck driver gets to send people to other dimensions where they can be heroes. It'd probably be easier to have escapist themes in a story as a truck driver than as a power washer.
>Reincarnated as a city planner? Actually that last one is a popular genre.
Examples?

>>25122175
Having scanned through a bunch of major novel sites as previously mentioned, RR and Scribblehub had by far the most similar offerings. Every other site had its own vibe, but there was a LOT of overlap between RR and Scribblehub. That's why I said I don't see a reason for RR to exist. It's Scribblehub with a worse interface and purged smut.

>>25122248
>Examples?
The most literal example would probably be Easygoing Territory Defense by the Optimistic Lord, but there are a LOT of builder series out there from Lazy Dungeon Master to The Death Mage Who Doesn’t Want a Fourth Time.

>>25122253
the main appeal of RR over scribblehub is that it doesn't look like ass
you're probably the only person that likes how scribblehub looks

>>25122039
wow you read a lot more than i do.

Is there a (cultural?) reason cultivators like to explicitly mention their cultivation stage when they get challenged in a fight?

>>25121771
Sure, I would even say that it's the kind of story that pair naturally with GameLit stuff.

>>25122261
I've hardly read all those, but from my experience it's better to take a lot of time narrowing a site's offerings down to shit you might be interested in later so you have a much smaller pool of shit you have to look through when you want to start something new.

It's better to wade through an entire ocean of sewage once to find a few gems than to keep wading through large parts of the same ocean of sewage every time you want to find something new. You save a ton more time on the back end and also you'll find some hidden gems along the way.

Like my short list now includes something called Isekai'd Shoggoth. I'm never finding that shit if I don't wade through an ocean of shit.

>>25122267
>Is there a (cultural?) reason cultivators like to explicitly mention their cultivation stage when they get challenged in a fight?
If there's an audience it can go towards establishing who the audience should cheer for (suck up to) to not offend the likely winner. It can help spread your fame if you're fighting above your weight class and expect to live. It can be seen as a way to intimidate an opponent or get them to underestimate you. In some settings it can be considered polite. They'll usually be able to tell anyway cause energy density or whatever. And beyond that it's similar to martial artists wearing belts that display their experience level IRL.

Has anyone read "Above the Great Dao" or "My Simulated Path to Immortality" or "Dao of the Bizarre Immortal"? Are their translations any good?

I was reading the manhua adapations of them and I'm wondering if I should just read the original webnovels, instead of waiting for the the artist to adapt hundreds of chapters.
The art in them is actually pretty good. Though the pacing in the last one seems a little strange.
I'm currently reading the original web novel for "A Regressor's Tale of Cultivation"t. The manhwa adaptation caught my interest and its pretty good but it left out the details of an early time loop the MC was in.

>>25122280
In one web novel I'm reading (A Regressor's Tale of Cultivation), an enemy mentions the ranks of everyone multiple times in a single fight. BUT there's no audience and he's only fighting against 2 people.

This is around chapter 71. I don't remember if it was happening earlier in the story as well, but I was thinking about it as I read this chapter.

Okay so how do you guys read these translated novels without going insane. The “Gu” or whatever the fuck it is spam and the horrendous translated prose has almost filtered me from reading Reverend Insanity. Lord of the Mysteries is slightly better or I got used to this slop and I finished one volume.

>>25122297
LoTM is slightly better but you can still see it. Either power through it or reload a previous save.

>>25121971
I read The Years of Apocalypse too, it only really picks up steam after like 40-50 chapters when it starts to move away from the shackles of MoL. But at the point it’s currently at, I think it has surpassed MoL as a story personally. More ambitious in scope, that’s for sure.

>>25122301
so is Reverend Insanity worth reading through the slop? I think it’s incomplete as well right?

>>25122309
Yeah it's incomplete, I can't tell you if it's worth thought; I stopped around 100 chapters or so. LoTM was great imo tho

>>25122309
Worth... for what? Never trust any poster that gives you the 'it gets better after x' line. Those that enjoyed a work didnt suffer through the beginning expecting something better later, they just liked it from the start. So no it doesnt get better.

>>25122297
>Okay so how do you guys read these translated novels without going insane
Translation quality varies A LOT. If something's quality is below your tolerance level, just don't read it. It's that simple.

>>25122052
MLA released on scribblehub before RR.

>>25122309
is the novel from that author about a guy with puppet techniques worth reading? "Mysteries Of Immortal Puppet Master" or something

>>25117195
just put it in [brackets] in your work's title

>>25122069
Isn't this all just gooner niche fetish shit
Of course scrubble and ao3 is full of that. Not sure why you're comparing them to RR.

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>>25122309
Ignore RI
Acquire Regressor's Tale of Cultivation, Shadow Slave and Lord of the Mysteries

>>25122339
>Isn't this all just gooner niche fetish shit
Some is I'm sure
>Not sure why you're comparing them to RR.
I'm comparing them to RR because I went through multiple entire tags on both sites and the offerings were very similar, if not the same in a lot of cases. Very similar site cultures. I did the same shit for other sites and got different varieties.

>>25122359
What tags did you go through?

>>25121279
I haven't posted about wangs in a while because ive spent the past month only reading one hugelong cultivation story
The Mirror Legacy is pretty good. I like how it follows the fortunes & rise of a whole sect of cultivators rather than an individual OPMC who always wins, the individual characters can get screwed over or die and it never feels like anyone has plot armor.

>>25122052
Scribblehub seems to lean a lot more towards asian web fiction selfinsert sensibilities than RR in terms of not just powerfantasy but harem stuff. And also of course explicit smut which isn't allowed on RR.
It's also extremely ESL, most of the top stories have grammar mistakes or awkward non-fluent-sounding wording even in the synopsis. This also includes many of the stories in anon's to-read list so I guess he has a high tolerance for ESL writing.

For example here is the first paragraph of the blurb for one of the stories in anon's pastebin, "Hybridization":
> Kurt was unsure how his existence came to be. Other paranormal being were not sure how it was possible either. The various government organizations of the United States didn’t even know about his condition other than he was a half elf. So it was that Kurt was feared by the average person, hated by most paranormal beings and generally wanting to be left alone.

>>25122382
Yeah the ESLism is incredible in this list, haven't been able to work through that to the content yet. Even coming fresh off some mtl straight out of 2016 its difficult to read. I think its regrettable that RR doesnt have any explicit fictions anymore as I do think it does add to my enjoyment of a work in many cases. As for harem stuff or asian powerwank I don't have any dislike of these and harems where the girls are actually interesting. Still haven't seen actual recs other than smutanon with his pastebin though, inevitable considering the lower readership of the site i guess?

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I love reading ESL babble, personally.

>>25122478
Its refreshing volapuk if anything

>>25122297
Did you at least make an attempt to read RI?

>>25122362
I saw it on various sites but skipped it for some reason. I think the description was suspect, but I'll give it a go just because of your mention.

>>25122182
>>25122213
The Exalted Mage and Blackflame Mage have picked up a lot of followers. However both stories are too new to have much content or to know how they will progress in the future and that they don't end up on permanent hiatus. The two regression series I've enjoyed the most recently were Apocalypse Redux and Reborn: Apocalypse (still ongoing, author takes forever to write each book). But they were on Kindle, not WN sites.

>>25122596
>The Exalted Mage
>Female Lead
>Lesbian Romance
>Romance Subplot

>Blackflame Mage
>Competing Love Interest
>Romance Subplot

These seem like garbage. No thanks.

>>25122625
>I'm vegan btw

>>25122625
Fuck knows why they have those tags. Neither have had anything like romance so far. In fact Blackflame Mage reads like the premise for a harem smut book but the author removed all the smut.

i refuse to add the new romance tags because the "romance" lasts only a few chapters and isn't a focus of the story. Other people may see it differently.

>>25122631
>Still seething

>>25122596
I'm gonna check out Blackflame Mage & Apocalypse Redux, usually I'm not a fan of litrpg but I've been warming up to it lately. Thanks for the recs

>>25122649
Enjoy. You really should try Reborn: Apocalypse as well. It is the best of the bunch but it's a weird mix of every progression genre including litrpg and cultivation, and yet it somehow works.

>>25122641
I had people whining about the lack of romance tag when two characters went to sightsee in one fucking chapter. I told the commenters it wasn't a romantic date and they just didn't believe me lmao

>>25122658
I wouldn't trust you either to be fair.

>>25122658
>I told the commenters
Big mistake. Mental illness can't be reasoned out of.

I thought you only needed to add the romance tag if the story was a romance, not if it had romance in it but wasn't a romance?

>>25122631
Vegans are based

>>25122664
I add wrong tags on purpose to bait engagement.

>>25122664
In a normal world you be right. But a bunch of RR readers will sperg out if they encounter something there was no tag for - typical snowflak reaction - so authors now tend to click every tag available to cover all possible options.

>>25122664
You have to use the "romance subplot" tag in that case. Though some people will argue that a story is romance if it has any romance, no matter how large a part it occupies and you will get revenge ratings for this treachery

I got through books 1-8 of LOTM

Not bad, not great.
I like the setting and history that accompagnies it but most of the characters are kind of lame and not memorable.

Is LOM 2 any good so far?

>>25122658
>a male and female sightseeing together
Realistically that's romance.

>>25122560
Yes. It was mostly incoherent slop but I only read 30 or so chapters before giving up. I read LoTM and writing wise it wasn’t up to my standards either, but the world was interesting so I did stick it out until the end of the first volume. I can definitely continue that one.

>>25122356
I’ve read Shadow Slave up until Antarctica and LoTM. Well Idk if LoTM counts because I’ve just read the first volume but it was interesting. Shadow Slave also had interesting concepts but the writing really degraded hard sometime while reading, so I dropped it after that arc. People say that the third nightmare is good, but I’m good. What I read was okay enough.

>Blackflame Mage
This looks like AI slop from the blurb alone and the writing is chatGPT. Are you people really reading this shit?

>>25122724
Do you think the sloppers in these threads have any standards, or what? The title alone should tell you you're in for word vomit of the blandest flavor

>>25122729
I saw The Years of Apocalypse mentioned so I thought there were some standards here. That and A Practical Guide to Sorcery are the two I’ve read that can be seen as normal books. Even TYOA is sloppy for like 70% of the first book though.

>>25116307
Jason Asano…

>>25122724
the black flame mage wishes he could be the BLACK FLAME MASTER

>>25122724
> Are you people really reading this shit?
It was top of RS recently, apparently many people are. Why are you so surprised that WN readers enjoy slop?

>>25122724
the name alone makes me puke for some of these. this, shadow slave etc. you just know it’s some edgy mc power fantasy garbage, probably generated by AI these days. honestly if you read this shit just go open chatgpt and get it to write this with your name in it kek
>>25122745
worm, wandering inn etc existed. people used to read good stuff before

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>>25122747
>just go open chatgpt and get it to write this with your name in it kek
I actually have a power fantasy roleplay chatbot like that.

>>25122757
Better than pacing around your room ig, the power of technology is astounding!

>>25122733
Nta but come on , my weekly chapter reviews are not bad.

Maybe I should be more spamy , like daily or something.

>>25122762
>Better than pacing around your room
H-how did you know. Is this an autism symptom I'm unaware of or something?

>>25122767
Not everything is autism you know, maybe you just get really into your slop idk? kinda funny I hit the nail in the head, hilarious.