[non-misogynistically] i can't stand her corny-ass pseudish prose to be honest...

>>25315470
How is the "I'm jewish, very opinionated, and I have some friends and relatives in MSM and publishing" genre still going strong to this day, decades after it became played out and incredibly samey?

>>25315497
She IS from decades ago you asshat

>>25315470
the novels are bad but the essays are kino, anyone who hasn't read Against Interpretation and Regarding The Pain Of Others is missing out. had a film professor in college who would pronounce her name "sonTACGH" and then grin like he was very pleased with himself

>>25315640
It technically should be "Zonn-thag"

Imagine being named Sunday. Susan Sunday.

>>25315470
I believe the novels of susan sontag are overrated, self-indulgent crap.

>>25315690
she's revered for her non-fiction works

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>>25315640
i thought against interpretation ruled, guess im reading pain of others soon, thanks anon

one of the nastiest people ive come across

>>25315640
I've only read On Photography but it was incredible, hard not to underline the whole book because it was just one insightful thing after another.

>>25315906
Oh you met her?

Why do you make this every day?

Notes on Camp is a classic

I have a suspicion that those lips were pressed up against another woman's anus, and that anus was most likely extremely hairy.

>>25317429
Wtf I like susan sontag now

>>25316591
I hate to think of books in terms of "insights per page" but On Photography is just paragraph after paragraph after paragraph after paragraph of 'damn, it never occurred to me to think of it like that, that's a really good point'

Highly recommend to anyone who hasn't read it

>>25315470
Sontag's Essays are all time. They still hold up today. They are surprisingly readable and insightful. The fact that On Photography still holds up in our post-instagram era is practically unheard of. You could hand these essays out in a high school classroom or a Master level Media Studies course and they would be legible and pertinent.
I think her best works in order are
1. Against Interpretation. (mostly for a select few essays like the namesake, On Style, Notes on Camp, but everything is good.
2. On Photography - the entirety of this incredible
3. Regarding the Pain of Others
4. Illness as Metaphor - maybe not as classic as others, but preshadows and predicts a lot of current writing trends about illness and health.
I would argue the first two are required reading.

Shes the premier BBC queen

Her novel The Volcano Lover was so atrocious I swore I'd never read another word of her. Guess I have to read her essays now?

I found Sontag to be my soulmate – too bad I was born gay and decades too late.

>>25315470
I think she was mad she wasn't getting enough dick from white Chads so she wrote a polemic.

Are all the positive posts in this thread the same guy pretending to be multiple anons?

>>25318685
I'm >>25315640 not OP, but I guess it could be just be us two

>>25318685
No, her essays are incredible.

Inbred stetl creatures from New Amsterdam Oblast cornering the publishing market led to yenta frauds like this stunningly mid 'beauty' and Mr. Bloom to pretend they had any hand in building this country and civilization, in any capacity, literary or otherwise. The taint of bad conscience in American letters aping the Old World finds its origin in here benighted and thoroughly bigoted ilk.

>>25315470
>What does /lit/ think of... woman
tits or GTFO

>>25315470
Evil, evil woman, much like Vanessa Place. I hope she's enjoying hell.

>>25319214
Why is Place evil?

>>25319261
She literally wrote an essay advocating for evil poetics.

>>25318685
Believe it or not, you might just be an unread retard way out of your depth on a literature forum.

>>25319915
Is it good tho?

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>>25317943
What kind of insights?

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>>25318263
>Against Interpretation
Quite possibly the most idiotic and nonsensical shit I've ever read... no word of a lie.

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>>25315497
>Susan Sontag drew universal acclaim and praise for writing in 1967 in Partisan Review:
>[...] The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself.
>>25315640
She literally plagiarized her essays from French writers but added a good dose of the typical "jews are special and better than others".

>>25321196
How so?
Of all the slop she stole that one was completely right. Among other things, modern interpretation is exactly what keeps enabling the scam of conceptual art.

>>25321222
>(you) are wrong for looking at this like this...
Instead, you must look at it like this...
Both parties are wrong. Only thing that's right is how (you), as the viewer, look at it.

>>25321222
I'm fucking too retarded to greentext properly--big oof. Also, checked.

>>25315470
>white people are so evil, am I right "fellow whites?"
Yeah no fuck off with this kike nonsense.

>>25321260
This is a retarded take.
She explicitly says that modern interpretation is bad because it tries to find hidden meaning by digging and dissecting the work rather than building one over the work's content. She even mentions several examples of this, then points out that is done as an attempt to elevate the work and make the interpreter find enjoyment that he had not found with the original work.
Interpretation isn't bad, but it becomes bad when you do it to turn the work into something else.

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>>25318857
Yes, it’s a pathologically driven little scheming faggot jewish boy who can’t shake his fears that White People / Europeans are the true Chosen People and that his sister and mom fantasize about black men.

All her essays should be mandatory reading.

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>>25322467
Sontag probably did more than everyone else to Europeanize the simpleton, backwards American nation. She will forever be one of the greats. Meanwhile all of you will forever be mindless, unread philistines.

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>>25325134
She only got a platform for being a jewess, her opinion only carries weight because she's a jewess. All that is there to her, nothing else. Dumb pajeet.

>>25325210

I wish you cancerous fucks would just drop dead, you provide 0 arguments for someone who knows nothing about her opening this thread to consider if she's worth reading or not. Fucking piece of shit, seriously.

>>25321190
You'll have to read the book because they'll sound flat and tinny in a 4chan reply (as everything does) but her ideas about the tourist paradox (how photography substitutes for experience rather than recording it), how photography simultaneously democratizes and cheapens by flattening the distinction between the trivial and the significant, and the "surrealism problem," how both photography and surrealism's 'found objects' are making the same artistic gesture in different forms -- it's been years since I've read On Photography and I still think about those ideas all the time

>>25315470
>Sontag's novels
Borderline unreadable
>Sontag's essays
Irreplaceable

>>25318263

I just got On Photography today. Haven't read anything by her so I'm hoping this is an ideal starting place.

>>25321190
different anon, but the one that pops up in my mind all the time is how the act of photographing transforms the photographer into both a bystander and a participant, how you're both intervening and not intervening simultaneously. I think about that whenever someone posts footage of someone else having a meltdown or getting hurt.
another is how the act of photographing confers importance upon a moment, how even if it's just someone sitting, the photographer has decided "the moment deserves to be preserved." and, by extension, the photographer makes a decision about everything that doesn't deserve preservation. How, when you go on vacation, your photographs are typically limited to the beautiful and you've relegated any unpleasant experiences to the unimportant or the repressed, to something meant to be forgotten.

>>25325235
SAAAAAAAR DO NO REDEEM THE TORAH
>>25321190
Like how white people are evil while jewish people are exotic and special.

>>25325559
making /lit/ a little bit more unbearable day by day

>>25315470
Notes On Camp is probably the most fun essay ever written. I'm not familiar with a lot of her other work but she gets a pass off that for me

Paglia won the beef

>>25325559
>it da JOO! JOO JOO JOO JOO IT DA JOOOOOO JOOOOO
go back to your containment board, the adults are trying to discuss literature

>>25315640
>Against Interpretation
The whole premise was shamelessly stolen from Tolstoy What is Art, which was written more than half a century before.

>>25315470
I get why Sontag was popular in her day and age. She was good at recognizing good ideas and explaining them without dumbing them down but still keeping them accessible to non-specialists. I think there's a real talent in this and I understand valuing her for being so good at divulging those ideas, even if she blatantly presented them as her own. But it's beyond me how at this day and age some people still treat her as this towering intellectual who kept coming up with the most incredible insights as if it weren't well documented she didn't come up with anything truly original in her life. If she hadn't been a jew, there's no way her status wouldn't be more questioned.

>>25326294
who are her influences?

>>25325559
>Like how white people are evil
Right on the mark tbqhwy

>>25326366
They are just butt hurt chuds trying to undermine her for the sin of being a jewish woman who dared to criticize le westurn civilizashun. The narrative that she's a plagiarist has been taken completely out of proportion. In the late nineties some amateur historian accused her of lifting paragraphs from biographies and diaries of some Polish-American actress and using them in a novel and Sontag promptly clarified that all writers lift from other sources without acknowledging it but that doesn't make her a plagiarist and it was the end of it. Except now right wingers will never miss a chance to let you know where Sontag got her ideas from, as if ideas were something people can own.

>you're a BAD GOY for refusing to listen to a Jew tell you that you are evil because you are white
Lmao no. It's so easy to see through you people.

>>25327608
>guise it da joo n sheit!!! take me heckin seriously guise!

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>>25327616
Stinky jeet, go back to bharat chan.

>>25327635
>guise you gotta take me heckin seriously! guise you just have to okay!!!
>>>/pol/ is over there

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>>25325134
>Europeanize

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>>25325437
No offense but this just seems like basic bitch 110IQ takes that everyone knows but doesn't dwell on? Were you like twelve when you read it?

>>25328526
everything does when you summarize it

>>25328526
>You'll have to read the book because they'll sound flat and tinny in a 4chan reply

I never heard of her until now. Will read some of her works.

>>25328526
Read the book or stfu