>once overflow with otherworldly wisdom, write the greatest books of all time,

Because that never happened, you just like hearing apologetics for your religion.

>Why do the Russian Greats end right at the Russian Revolution?
Beats me.

>>25318410
French literature didn't die with the French Revolution tho why's that

>>25318395
brain drain from communism, duh

>>25318395
The Bolshevik Revolution

>>25318827
The French aristocracy were degenerate hedonistic retards, comparatively speaking.

>>25318827
>>25318837
Also the Bolsheviks were far more anti intellectual at various stages.They targeted artists and priests more.

>why did Russian books promoted and marketed everywhere in the west suddenly not got promoted anymore when Russia was newly called an evil empire by every state and marketing team and publishing house in the west

>>25318838
Kek fucking Pushkin's shit had to be revised multiple times because of Tsarist censors

>>25318846
Who cares? Censorship exists everywhere, even in the dedicated anti censorship country. You sound like a larping thirdie.

>>25318850
I'm not the one saying the USSR lacked literature because of censorship

>>25318853
And?

>>25318855
And great Russian literature produced under the USSR did not get widespread promotion in the west is the reason you don't know about it. And Quiet Flows the Don is a masterpiece but it will never get much promotion in the west BECAUSE it is a Soviet work

>>25318395
Deep into the 20th century we got so far into language you just can't translate it in any way properly anymore.

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the same reason everyone else did. you can say the same for americans, the english, the french, etc.

Because communists destroyed Russian culture. Well, not only that - they fucked this country over in so many aspects is difficult to describe. Very few people truly understand the magnitude of what happened.
Imagine if your country were taken over by a totalitarian sect whose goal is to completely destroy all existing social institutions and culture and build it anew from the ground up, in the vision of their utopia. Practically everything that is happening in Russia right now is a direct consequence of 70+ years of communist rule.

t. Russian

>>25318395
Some of that is just the route of the nineteenth century novel though where the nineteenth century novel has all this gravitational sway with regard to the context to the history to the novel and the idea of the novel or something like that

>>25318917
bootlicker

>>25318892
Cool it down with the antisemitism.
>>25318861
They certainly did?
Ivan Bunnin and other writers who openly criticized socialism received widespread acclaim, but their works just fizzed out.

>>25318892
why is there hebrew lettering on that tag henry miller is wearing around his neck

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>>25318395
They didn’t, they just weren’t as promoted as internationally anymore or haven’t been around long enough to climb to as high acclaim
Few ones in that image are from the soviet era, Ivan Denisov and Master & Margarita along with some newer big ones like Dr. Živago, Quiet flows the Don
These received much less international fame due to the political undertones and the later cold war limiting their spread outside their respective political/ cultural regions. If you asked 100 people from 100 countries of their most influential or most famous books, they’ll probably give a thousand different answers. If you asked someone from the US and from Russia to give their top 5, they’re gonna be completely different.

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>>25318395
there are gamers out there who will insist disco elysium is better than all 9 of these kek

>>25320420
whose boot is he licking you retarded fuck
russia was nuked by the revolution and the grave was sealed after the death of mayakovsky

>>25318395
Its like 70% public perception (they exist, you just havent heard of them), 30% unfavorable historical conditions (there are just less of them).
There are many great Russian writers dispensing otherworldy wisdom, but the cold war made Russians into the Bad Guys and closed off the western capitalist sphere from that of the eastern communist sphere. Both spheres started developing their own canons that didn't intermingle and were considered by the other sphere as 'propaganda'. Once the USSR fell, that second canon was mostly lost.

The west therefore mostly ignored Russian literature, only showing interest in a book when it could be used as a tool of counter-propaganda (i.e Solzhenitsyn). As a result great writers like Gorky, Mayakovsky, and Sholokhov are relatively undervalued compared to the pre-revolutionary Russian authors. The USSR itself is also to blame of course, a bunch of experimental/critical writers like Platonov, Daniil Kharms, and Vasily Grossman were repressed in the USSR and ignored in the west, even though some of these writers could easily be counted among some of the greatest Russian writers if they'd be given more recognition.

>>25318827
Because the French Revolution was not anti-intellectual in its nature, quite the opposite. The Reign of Terror was only a small glimpse of the French Revolution while the Bolsheviks actively dismantled many of the institutions and cultures that brought birth to the Russian classics throughout its entire lifespan.
Also, the Russian Revolution and its consequences (intended by the party or not) has been far more devastating. The French Revlution, Reign of Terror, revolutionary wars and the Napoleonic wars killed around 6% of the French population.The Russian Revolution led to the Civil War, multiple wars against nations that broke away from Russia after WW1, Peasant Uprisings, famines, a devastating war against Finnland, Poland and WW2 (though that was caused by the nazis, it most likely wouldn't have happened if the Bolsheviks never got into power). Records are not quite accurate, but that's tens of millions people, a far greater loss both in total and relative numbers.

>>25320420
>if you're not that, you must be this
The refrain of the ideological retard.

>>25318861
And Quiet Flows the Don has been widely read in the west. There's a copy on my bookshelf.

>>25318395
The (((Bolsheviks))) weren't exactly interested in having the masses do anything beyond work and suffer. Communism, like other forms of extreme philosophy, aren't friendly to the arts, generally.

>>25318410
>>25318837
>>25318838
>>25322486

Gorky was writing during the Soviet period and was extremely famous you obsessed fucking retards. OP's pic includes a book by Bulgakov, another Soviet author. The most famous Russian director of all time also lived during the USSR.

The idea that the USSR was anti-intellectual is a retarded fabrication believed by indoctrinated Westerners who hate liberal democracy and yet implicitly buy into its cultural framing, thereby castrating themselves, ensuring their failure to ever birth something new.

It's the same reason you can find dissident books by Chinese authors more easily in Western book stores than works by Mo Yan, a literal Nobel prize winner.

The same kind of logic is applied to Fascism, where Westerners pretend it was intellectually barren despite the numerous writers, philosophers, and artists affiliated with the movement.

It's insane that this board will point out the conspiracies that dominate publishing, especially the way certain groups are now excluded, yet can't EVER imagine this applying in the past, when the CIA was doing everything possible to counteract the Soviets. It's an actual fact of history that the CIA funded cultural movements, like abstract expressionism. You don't think that would also extend to ensuring the success of certain (Western) movements the obscurity of others from hostile countries?

>>25318395
>then just stop?
you obviously have never read limonov

>>25318395
The Portable Nineteenth-Century Russian Reader is not a bad introduction to russian literature and the nineteenth century novel or something like that

THE NINETEENTH CENTURY NOVEL
THE NINETEENTH CENTURY NOVEL THE NINETEENTH CENTURY NOVEL
THE NINETEENTH CENTURY NOVEL

>>25318395
>otherworldly wisdom
>chingov chongov mongov

>>25322102
>Because the French Revolution was not anti-intellectual in its nature
lol, lmao even

>>25326962
NTA but give an actual rebuttal you coward.

>>25326956
>depressing novel :|
>depressing novel rasha :O

>>25326965
Giving an actual rebuttal would undermine the goal which is to point out that it's such a blatantly false statement it's not even worthy of any responses other than derision and mockery.

>>25318395
russian diaspora in a western country here. living and working is too exhausting to spend time writing. i can't be myself around any friends. "white" people treat you like a weirdo. "poc" have genuine racist hatred towards you. the government treats you identically to "white" people who have wealth, that is, like scum. my time is spent staving off depression and I haven't written in years

>>25320424
Well yes works considered critical of communism were

>>25327045
Unfortunate, because all the things you listed sound good fodder for a great novel

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>it was le gommunism’s fault!
Yeah, because now that Russians live under crapitalism they have produced so many contemporary classics like hmmmmmmm and who could forget uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh….

Good, or at least interesting, modern Russia(n) book:
>>25324944

Vladislav Surkov
Almost Zero

Another great modern book:
Dmitry Glukhovski
Sumerki - Dämmerung

https://youtu.be/VWPkTdC488o?is=hZfPNmN9k1k6fRBf

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>>25318917
>and build it anew from the ground up
And yet most of the states that fleed the USSR are by this point fine. While Russia is still some city states and a large resource extraction economy with many dead ends.

>>25326974
>I concede

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>>25318395
The first thing "communists" do whenever they take over a country is to exterminate most of its native intelligentsia, priesthood, and leadership caste

>>25327249
Don't forget Daniel Gaviloski

>>25327324
They killed almost all of my Ukrainian girlfriend's family because some of them were poets.

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>>25327925
No, they killed them because the were bourgeois exploiters.

>>25318395
Western culture as a whole changed drastically in 1914. Great works were made after that, including in Russia, but none of it had the energy and power of 19th century works. The war and its effects changed everything. Stefan Zweig goes into detail on this.

>>25322564
Good post

>>25318882
As someone not super deep into more recent Russian Lit but is interested in the language I'd love for you to elaborate on this. Are you referring to the more out there stuff by Pelevin, Sorokin, etc?

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>>25318395
They didn't.

>>25322030
Never mind, this post is /thread.

>>25318892
>>25320424
It forever boggles me this man is not actually a Jew.

>>25318395
They didn't "just stop" - great writing requires freedom of thought, USSR goverment has opposed freedom of thought because it was (and, as you can see, still is) trying to make an ideological state (read: brainwashed into submission), that tend to fall apart relatively soon after people start to think and stop to trust the goverment and "the great bright future for your descendants at the cost of your lives all while under our (and nobody else's) direction" ideas.
More than that - only reason any goverment should exist is only to provide protection for those lacking their own power - but, of course, every single faggot getting even a smallest amount of power (bar few genuinely good people and somewhat more fanatics) instantly starts to amassing more power and wealth for himself - usually cost being paid by everybody else, both in wealth and in lives. And then there are fanatics - insane dedicated followers of an idea, who always manage to undermine even good ideas through being ready to and actually applying all available methods no matter how awful, inhumane and against the original idea they are.
So, when somebody starts writing anything, but propaganda - he is stopped immediately by censorship - and only most masqueraded cases can get through, which are few in numbers and often require for the reader to know a lot of culture-specific moments to be read properly.
Also the fact, that many good ideas for writing tend to be the result of many generations of people writing, reading, interpreting and developing ideas of each other - and a lot of already existing ideas had been basically oulawed too - which greatly reduces the amount of people getting access to them - which, in turn, greatly reduces chances, that somebody with a writing talent will get appropriate education and good ideas, that will also get this writer's interest enough for him to develop them into literature, even if unpublished.
Europe and USA, even in modern state of rapefugees, faggotry and various others modern censorships still have way, way more freedom than USSR had or Russia has today. Only in 90's there was a certain degree of freedom in Russia, and that was barely enough to publish previously unpublished books amd establish the very beginning of new traditions and writers - and then everything had been directed back to the past. Only hope is that the very existence of Internet as a way of communication of anybody with anybody as well as the great library, accessed by anybody at will had given enough people the taste of freedom so they would be able to think, understand and wish - as today even Internet is under censorship attack by all sides simultaneously on the ground of being a danger for most goverments as a way for people to unite and handle their own business without some powerhungry faggot establishing himself over everyone else.

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>>25318917
>Imagine if your country were taken over by a totalitarian sect whose goal is to completely destroy all existing social institutions and culture and build it anew from the ground up, in the vision of their utopia.

We don't have to imagine. Liberalism has been doing that to Western Christendom for centuries, accelerating since 1960. We have lost all our culture and traditions too, and our literature is also slop today. Russia at least has Vodolazkin and Pelevin today; we only have R.F. Kuang, Sally Rooney, and Honor Levy, where once we had Dante and Milton.

Liberalism is indeed just as much a tool of Satan as communism. The carrot versus the stick.

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>>25328754
Communism was more 1984. Liberalism has produced A Brave New World. Conservative liberalism (e.g., Trumpism) is just A Brave New World with some vestigial Jesus themes tacked on. All the work of the anti-Christ.

In the coming Flood, as the scourge of God descends, only the Ark of the Lord shall survive. We don't just need Alasdair MacIntyre's new Saint Benedict; we need a new Salvanorla.