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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #172, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.
▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykS JT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTa vern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh -XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU 9f0c2U
▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!
Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀
Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings
▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
Pony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf- YB
▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat
▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main
▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb
▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks
▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA 3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive
Previous thread: >>43051899
**News:**
- Google released Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-model s/gemini-3-1-pro/
- Anthropic released Sonnet 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
- GLM 5 released https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
- Opus 4.6 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Bots corner:
>Beau 'Belle' Dandy
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Beau%20%27Belle% 27%20Dandy.png
>Sister Fluttershy
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Sister%20Flutter shy.png
>Equestrian Journal
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Screenshots corner 1:
Baby Eating >>43053456
1984 X MLP >>43053984
Caribou Tactics >>43055592
Gazed >>43056123
Cute Tipsy Fluttershy >>43059072
Drunk Twi >>43059812, >>43059814, >>43059888
AJ Estrus >>43062611
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Zalgo >>43065272
Forty Years >>43065369
Rarity Love Life >>43065570
NERD >>43066174
Two Hearts >>43066188
RGRE Mares >>43066601, >>43066688, >>43068084
Can't She? >>43067812
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Screenshots corner 3:
Twilight's Pet >>43067857
No Context >>43067950
Alicornification >>43068194
In Bed with Chrissie >>43070404
Bug Sex Is Weird >>43070521
Humiliation Fetish >>43070898
Rumpa >>43071657
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VN Anchor:
Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/
Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods
Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312Raod AE
VN logs:
Dragged to the Spa >>43052992
The Best Roommates >>43054944
Mr. Cake >>43056639
Little Strongheart >>43058288
Snips and Snails >>43058877
Young >>43059178
That's Disturbing >>43059535
Stuck >>43056518
Rumble >>43060553
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VN logs 2:
Muffin >>43060028, >>43061109, >>43061238
Suri Polomare >>43060792
Anonfilly >>43061833
Pretty Derpy >>43063719
Iron Will >>43065874
Jasmine Leaf >>43069083
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.
Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
Then choose a free way to get models:
rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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First highlight of the Event was:
>Princess Platinum
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum. png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947751
Second highlight of the Event was:
>Luster Dawn
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947754
Third highlight of the Event was
>Red Seven
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Red%20Seven.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968220
Fourth highlight of the Event was:
>The Pinkie Cut
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20C ut.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968223
Fifth highlight of the Event was:
>Saddlelite 13
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42988635/#42988674
Six highlight of the Event was:
>Amethyst Star.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Amethyst%20Star.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43006720/#43006772
Seventh highlight was:
>Diamond Tiara.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Diamond% 20Tiara.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43006720/#43006779
Eighth highlight of the event was:
>Lyrabon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Pizza%20Delivery/Lyrabon.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43021323/#43021368
Ninth highlight of the event was
>Lewd Pinkie.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Pinkie%20Pie%20Lust. png
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Tenth highlight of the event was
>Harmonious Realm.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Harmonious%20Realm.p ng
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sex with mare
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Dashie Calendar for the Godot port.
Using the style from the VN, but I will see to add a Twi Calendar, Rara Calendar etc.
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>To help with vectors and backgrounds:
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312Rao dAE
Added vectors to the Mane 6 to reduce the Rarity supremacy (she had 50 when others were near 30, only Rainbow Dash was close thanks to Dashie Mod Anon).
They now all have 50.
It will be in the Godot release, but you can download the folders for your current play too.
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Holy hell Twilight's vectors are adorable
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>>43072208
ok so I may have recolor the sprites of more than just one pony.
https://gofile.io/d/WjQTNk
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God damn that is cute
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Wow, nice work, dude.
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Im using 4.6 and so far seems the better option, do you guys run it with a preset or just default?
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I wrote up my own casual sex Equestria card cause this concept is hot.
https://files.catbox.moe/s04k5a.png
It is a the trashiest of trashy scenarios filled with mares getting all of their holes filled. The focus is on mares, so it actively avoids stallions jacking off and gay shit. Lots of lesbian and straight though. Feel free to modify to your preferences as you will need to remove the lines that prevent it if you want the homo.
It worked incredibly well with Claude Sonnet when I was using it through openrouter, but got filtered to death on sillyspoon's version of claude and i haven't found a good source of sonnet to keep testing since it's always down on sillyspoon now.
I've been using deepseek 3.2 which is good enough. Go rut mares or just watch mares have fun.
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>haven't found a good source of Sonnet to keep testing since it's always down on sillyspoon now.
Both 4.5 and 4.6 are working.
Check the rentry to make sure you have the right URL.
Use a small preset like
https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json
if you get filtered.
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New version/update:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43021323/#43028254
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It's still in dev.
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If you go in the menu API settings and look at the bottom, you will see two options:
Character management and Location management.
Dynamic allows the AI to dynamically and automatically change locations. Let's say you are with Rainbow and ask her if she wants a swim in the lake; the AI will know to move you there itself. Same for characters. If you talk with Fluttershy and say
>"Is that Rainbow Dash coming here?"
then Rainbow will automatically enter the convo.
Manual options for the two will add two buttons during conversation that allow you to manually add/remove characters during a convo or change locations.
You can add your own locations too. If they don't have coordinates in the .json, then they will be considered to be there only for manual/dynamic switching.
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I forgot to post the screenshot.
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The other anon mentioning Ponyville streets got me thinking. Do you plan on including it as a location in the port? I had it in the original mod with instructions for the AI to use it as a transition location to emulate traveling through town between locations, and I lazily added it back with the calendar mod. If you’re planning on including it, I’m thinking it might make more sense to generalize the system now that we have more than just Ponyville, by giving each city its own cityname_streets location. I’m just not sure if a good background exists for every city though.
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>castle_twosisters_staffroom
I'll be shooting the shit with a couple of guards and maids on break while drinking from NMM's personal collection of wine (She doesn't know that she's been drinking the cheap stuff this whole time because we replace it)
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>It worked incredibly well with Claude Sonnet when I was using it through openrouter, but got filtered to death on sillyspoon's version of claude and i haven't found a good source of sonnet to keep testing since it's always down on sillyspoon now
Sillyspoon doesn't support prefill so that's likely doing the heavy lifting on your jailbreak.
the opus6 endpoint typically has sonnet
and Gytha proxy should have it
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the game itself doesn't send anything
obv whatever ai ur using is gonna send stuff to servers though. unless ur running a local model
>>43074929
which part are u struggling with nonny? what ai are you using? what's your favourite pony?
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>>43074756
>by giving each city its own cityname_streets location
why is none of you using dot notation? using underscores is horrible for grouping
what if for example you want an event that only triggers in Ponyville and sub-locations?
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I've downloaded PPP but I can't successfully connect it to an AI service. I enter the API URL and my key but it throws up "Expecting Value Line 1 Column 1 (Char 0)". Trying to start off using glm5 through NVIDIA NIM since it's free and has a few models but I think I'm missing something or misunderstanding how this is supposed to work. Derpy is my favorite pony.
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You need to add /v1/chat/completions at the end of the URL.
I think it's https://integrate.api.nvidia.com/v1/chat/completions for NVIDIA NIM but not sure.
(I would read the anchors too if you can)
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Sonnet:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43030373/#43046062
Some anons also commented it likes cunny less.
Opus:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43006720/#43014155
Both seem to be a bit less positivity biased than before from what I've read.
But losing prefill on Opus to guide the writing like with 4.5 is a pain.
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It's a non-issue. I just turned my prefill into a user message at the end of the API call, and it functions literally the same. I was expecting worse, but it's still Claude underneath, and the prefill was merely a bonus, not the only reason it was so weak to jailbreaks.
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>Is Gytha not silly spoon? How does one acquire sillyspoon?
two different proxies
https://rentry.org/sillyspoon/
Gytha's is the one listed as a backup, but shares credentials so you still need to arrange access to sillyspoon first
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>>43074756
>Do you plan on including it as a location in the port?
Yes.
>I'm thinking it might make more sense to generalize the system now that we have more than just Ponyville, by giving each city its own cityname_streets location.
Since it's very easy to modify prompts on Godot compared to Silly, what I think I'm going to do is to have the Dynamic prompt be fully customizable, with also options to choose which locations serve as links between regions (train stations by default) and custom prompts you can add for each region too and only for them.
So if you want to add that displacement in Ponyville needs to use Ponyville_street when it makes sense, it will be easy to do without going inside the code.
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The only real difference I've run into so far is that it's a smidge less smooth when you want to actually write the start of {{char}}'s response.
Obviously you can now put it at the bottom of your reply, underneath your last sentence, but it was sometimes nice to start {{char}}'s reply and then have the model take over writing it from it mid-sentence.
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First iteration, but here's how it would look.
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Anyone else getting this as the hot new Claudeism? I'm on Opus 4.5, and it's this, and characters deciding to be "vulnerable" at random with no justification, even when it completely goes against their character.
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Oh nice. Being able to add additional instructions for each city is perfect. I’ll keep the Ponyville prompt as is and make an equivalent for Canterlot using the shopping alley or something like that.
I just find that the little walk through town feels less jarring than having the scene transition straight from Twilight’s place to Hay Burger, for example.
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Having no one to talk to for years really makes a mare desperate
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What the fuck? Lol, you were right. I thought she meant herself because I'm playing as a ghost that's been messing with people. I never read her character.json file but yeah, she means her daughter lol.
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I always find it fun when you can tell someone created a scenario because of seeing a post elsewhere on the board.
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>To help with vectors and backgrounds:
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312Rao dAE
There are "dejected" and "hurt" sprites in there for Dash.
>>43076316
The dev is working on a big update that is going to include a bunch of new sprites for the mane 6. Go check out the doc to see the new sprites, and submit a few suggestions if you think something is missing.
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aahh I didn't read that, thx anon.
>I just looked it up and noticed out of the mane 6 there's no sad or crying Rainbow Dash sprite.
>guess you should add Fluttershy there too cus she also doesn't have any.
I noticed it because things got a little emotional on my playthrough.
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Something to do for fun, I was using a fluttershy card but I put something in where even if user is pathetic, stuttering or whimpers, or acts dweeby she registers everything through a love lens reinterpreting it always as 'strong' 'alpha stallion' stuff. It's really funny...
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This better end with Celestia finding out about this and sending Twilight back to magic kindergarten for her crimes.
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I was using gem 3.1 trying it out for the first time so the writing style is a bit different from what I'm use to
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Been a while. I'm the guy that made the World Map mod.
Decided to do a massive update in the upcoming future. No true ETA, but probably within the next two weeks. Many new locations, small reworks to existing areas, and generally more content on the way. Teaser below.
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What I've done:
Remove Chrysalis encounter and replace with a static chrysalis character to appear in applicable areas
Expanded the Everfree and made it its own location.
Added the Dragon Lands
Added Mount Aris
Added Princess Ember
Added Appleloosa
Added Tartarus
What I will do:
Add the School of Friendship
Add Twilight's Castle
Add new interiors to Canterlot Castle
Potentially add the Kirin Grove if I can find more vectors.
Add the School of Friendship
Add Our Town
Add Yakyakistan
Add Chrysalis's Hive
Add Griffonstone
Add Garble maybe
Add Flurry Heart
Add new locations in the Crystal Empire
Make locations easier to notice on map screens
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Holy anon this looks amazing! Wonderful job!
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LOL so it's not just me. Because I've gotten that on a few cards, saying something and getting that as a response, that's funny that they put THAT as a fucking LLMism
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All these goofy VN situations make me wanna play it again, but honestly I've grown sick of the AI writing style.
Way too formulaic, and also feels like it's constantly trying to put on a dramatic performance. It kinda flattens characters in a way.
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I highly recommend getting a new present. Whatever you're using, change it. A good present can hard carry even some of the cheaper LLMs.
There's some really customizable ones out there that change the came so completely it feels like an entirely new experience when you plug it in.
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It's Opus 4.5 here, but I believe most models, Gemini too, for instance, can do this quick back-and-forth once you have some context.
You can ask your preset to do that and delete the irrelevant narration in your first messages until it gets it.
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it's because the VN has no plot going on, it's very generic
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they probably meant multimodal input, still that would be very useful
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Sugar Belle.
https://u.pone.rs/thnagxph.zip
I will let anons determine how she fits in the game/timeline.
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Commit to a role play other than just yourself or "Anon". I'm playing as a character that's very much inspired by Pickle from Baki. That is, an autistically strong caveman that was frozen in amber and revived. Another one I did but didn't get very far into was playing as an alchemist. That required a bit of slop on slop with me using chatgpt to help with my magical materials and making up a whole alchemical system.
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Finally made the switch from free online generators to being completely local through sillytavern
Spent all night setting things up, and now I called in sick to work because I only got an hour of sleep and want to spend more time roleplaying.
It's over for me
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Oh really? I actually put it off for a while because it seemed like a pain in the ass to set up, but the guides from this general specifically made it really easy to get into.
Right now I'm running Snowpiercer Q6KL which seemed like the smartest model I could get with my specs. Using sphiratrioth's presets as well.
It's going pretty smooth now and at about the same rate as online services were, but when I first started each response was taking 2-3 min on average which was a bit rough.
I'm excited to try all of the models/presets/extensions, but I'm trying to pace it out for now
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Most anons use SillyTavern with big models like Claude, Gemini, etc.
You can have info on them in the anchor for that, but honestly, having your own model locally has its advantages and makes them always accessible, so if you're good with them, continue.
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Yea I'm familiar with the closed weight models, have tried them a bit when first starting out with chatbots. Still, I usually opted for free online frontends that had everything integrated, like pyg and agnai.
Most of the free backend models I was allowed to use with these were always smaller ones, around 7B, so this already feels like an upgrade. Plus having complete uncensored control and seeing some of the extensions I can use makes me regret not switching over sooner.
I upgraded my pc last summer hoping to run img and vid models locally, but bought an AMD GPU like a retard, so that hasn't been working. Glad the LLMs work though, now I can keep my depraved interactions to myself
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Fuck, I'm retarded.
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Both added to the website.
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>>43078130
It's not the situations themselves that are the issue; I honestly kinda like that I can do a a chill, dynamic, slice-of-life story.
It's specifically *how* the LLM writes character dialog and behaviors; it gets caught in repeating patterns, only makes characters different on a surface level, and again, feels like it's just outputting what a marketing team thinks "high literature" would be.
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>>43072184
https://u.pone.rs/fptvbwzz.png
Sweet Biscuit. She's a beautiful Canterlot mare with her own classy bakery. Take her somewhere nice or something.
And no, the card has nothing to do with the expulsion of any stomach contents.
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>>43078763
>green eyes
I'm not falling for that again.
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>>43078763
Added to the website, thanks.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Sweet%20Biscuit.png