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1993's chart has started! Reply with your nominations!

Phantom - Cyberchrist

>>129409195
Motörhead - Bastards

>>129409509
Wrote it down. If we're unable to fill the chart (which I suspect will be the case) I might do a split with 1994 like what happened with 1980-1981's chart.

>>129409195
My nominations:
Anacrusis - Screams and Whispers
Antagonist - Antagonist
Believer - Dimensions
Cathedral - The Ethereal Mirror
Gladiator - Made of Pain
Jesus Freaks - Socially Unacceptable
Marshall Law - Power Games
Mercyful Fate - In the Shadows
OHL - Die Auferstehung
Only Living Witness - Prone Mortal Form
Saviour Machine - Saviour Machine
Sepultura - Chaos A.D.
Skyclad - Jonah's Ark
Suicidal Tendencies - Still Cyco After All These Years
Thunder Way - The Order Executors
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
Uncle Slam - Will Work for Food
Visitör - Visitör
Acпид [Aspid] - Кpoвoизлияниe [Extravasation]

Maybe too radioactive:
Estirpe Imperial - Estirpe imperial
Vit Aggression - Död åt ZOG!

>>129409565
>Död åt ZOG!
Based title

>>129409195
Angra - Angels Cry
Conception - Parallel Minds
Rage - The Missing Link
Savatage - Edge of Throns
Grave Digger - The Reaper
Morgana Lefay - Knowing Just As I
Morgana Lefay - The Secret Doctrine
Dio - Strange Highways
Motorhead - Bastards
X Japan - Art of Life
Accept - Objection Overruled
Riot - Nightbreaker
Gamma Ray - Insanity And Genius
Ritual - Trials of Torment
Metal Church - Hanging in the Balance
Skyclad - Jonah's Ark
Mercyful Fate - In the Shadows
Thunder Way - The Order Executors
Tad Morose - Leaving The Past Behind

Yeah, I'm thinking we can fill 1993.

>>129409195
Angra - Angels Cry

>>129409591
just because it came out in 93 doesn't mean it should be included. for instance, insanity and genius is a really mediocre album and i love gamma ray.

>>129409565
That's a lot.
>Cathedral - The Ethereal Mirror
I like this album but not enough to vote for it, and I don't see it getting anymore lol.
>Maybe too radioactive:
Both of those should be fine. RYM lists main genres each as just heavy metal.

>>129409591
>>129409592
Counted all of these, we have 5 2 votes now.

>>129409565
Anacrusis: https://youtu.be/bFjH8n4G0L4

Antagonist: https://youtu.be/_5XurvnkKpg

Believer: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9Fd8DBE9oDDel5q1v1CqThi58_aQH-FQ

Cathedral: https://youtu.be/jxuKdkN87jc

Gladiator: https://youtu.be/VtV7xa4SckY

Jesus Freaks: https://youtu.be/oKczbR1e4mg

WHOOPS, scratch Marshall Law (1992)

Mercyful Fate: https://youtu.be/VRYEnvhkjhs

OHL: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mt6E44z83zHiwD0Xy2W8tvtBJWpS10dn0

Only Living Witness: https://youtu.be/UsQcQpJrP6w

Saviour Machine: https://youtu.be/c1oJQNodENs

Sepultura: https://youtu.be/jw48joavvpc

Skyclad: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHTo__bpnlYVXPgFT9P2hDx2Xe91Toml9

Suicidal Tendencies: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_let0w2f2abv5fb5iZAO6VCfrY5z8_3XwE

Thunder Way: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m5DWf0zkpG_K4QkSjQG4i3kdTgUyDD9MA

Type O Negative: https://youtu.be/mVvtm52_0IA

Uncle Slam: https://youtu.be/W6eUwW8a6nw

Visitör: https://youtu.be/Sn4dqN86tI8

Acпид: https://youtu.be/9fgOzMEnM80

>>129409670
>WHOOPS, scratch Marshall Law (1992)
Alright, I'll remove your vote.

>>129409591
>Thunder Way - The Order Executors

Really didn't expect anyone else to post this. It's such a curiosity, as it remains the only power metal album to ever come out of Albania. This country has a very small metal scene, with only 18 bands total in the Metal Archives, so for them to be doing power metal in 1993 when the genre really hadn't taken off yet, but never again, sure is an oddity. It's a shame the production is so poor, but by all means, it's understandable.

>>129409675
There seems to be a contradiction. Metal-Archives says 1992 but Discogs says 1993:
https://www.discogs.com/master/585254-Marshall-Law-Power-Game

Spotify also lists it as 1993:
https://open.spotify.com/album/6hHCg1zNfhdnaBMrpzW7ha

Only Metal-Archives claims 1992. Seeing that their official Spotify and Discogs lists it as 1993, could we still include it in the poll?
https://youtu.be/874uS3m5c_Y

>>129409709
>There seems to be a contradiction. Metal-Archives says 1992 but Discogs says 1993:
I consider Discogs the gold standard for this kind of info, Metallum is reliable but not 100%, and I've had some fuck ups with their release dates in the past.
>Only Metal-Archives claims 1992. Seeing that their official Spotify and Discogs lists it as 1993, could we still include it in the poll?
Yes. Re-instating your vote. Spotify gives it even more credibility since that's official.

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>>129409750
>Format
>CD
Huh? This is clearly the dimensions for a tape, why is cassette not listed there?

>>129409628
>>129409719
Meanwhile, here's Estirpe Imperial: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kuYFPnvmUm0e51bknuOq8PraEVHAkzAm0

Vit Aggression:
https://youtu.be/wlfru9kJPl8

https://youtu.be/l7-9sdU49pc

https://youtu.be/SRTPJeOHSfU

https://youtu.be/nGZCTbY29X8

https://youtu.be/Aw2Rs-HiLKk

https://youtu.be/qgs6dKV0h2g

https://youtu.be/PXxj2scF-tE

>>129409764
I was talking about Power Game.

>>129409591
Seconding Conception - Parallel Minds, one of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H8l9rZnBEs

>>129409785
Ah, my mistake. I get tunnel vision sometimes lol

>>129409787
Counted, I might actually listen to this after The Missing Link.

>>129409787
Conception is probably my most local widely known metal band. The vocalist is from a really small village about 30 km from here, basically in the middle of the forest. I often go skiing and cycling in the nearby area, and I know he's an outdoors guy, so who knows, maybe I'll run into him some day.

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First power metal Rage album I've listened to (I had only listened to Reign of Fear beforehand) and yeah, this is some damn good food. While the vocals scream Running Wild, the actual music reminds me a lot of classic Blind Guardian, complete with that thrashy edge they had on their first two albums. Seconding.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcQfM4LCpP5qVzYJ1IiMcvdJQNl2_bZfp

>>129410036
Rage will have an album in most of the remaining years of the 90s, and you can't really go wrong with any of them.

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>>129410107
So I've seen, but I'll probably end up going back into their catalogue to listen to the '80s stuff I missed. Perfect Man's got a fuckin' sick album cover, would that be a good one to kick off with?

>>129410136
Many consider it their best. It's a very accessible album with short and simple songs, but the music is top notch.

>>129410208
Gotcha, I’ll check it out tomorrow after I wake up.

>>129409628
>Both of those should be fine. RYM lists main genres each as just heavy metal.
i think he means due to the political content.

>>129409591
Seconding votes of:
Sepultura - Chaos AD
DIO - strange highways
Saviour Machine

>>129409195
Angra - Angels Cry
Conception - Parallel Minds
Mercyful Fate - In the Shadows
Savatage - Edge of Thorns
X Japan - Art of Life

>>129409195
Anacrusis - Screams and Whispers
Aspid - Extravasation
Riot · Nightbreaker
Type O Negative · Bloody Kisses

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>>129413404
Counted all of the votes, and now we have some stuff on there.

>>129409195
Edge of Thorns has my vote too

>>129413785
It's on there now.

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BLASTAN

https://youtu.be/wzCTMIjuBTQ?t=120

What a badass riff

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>>129413836

Forgot how good that album is, goddamn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YDKtCmaFvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6OK6ILikXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhwZLQKA2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezh7TYViIQg

what a killer riff

also this is intense

https://youtu.be/vORMdifekqk?t=70

https://youtu.be/nsi9HEmZl9Y?t=301

Love this solo, trad metal rules

How the FUCK is Tygers of Pan Tang - Wild Cat not on the 1980 chart? Or Saxon - Strong Arm of the Law?

>>129415831
I don't ever recall Wild Cat being voted, and I'm not a personal fan of that record so I didn't pick it. And Strong Arm of the Law isn't there because there's already two Saxon albums on it due to it being split.

>>129415831
You should have voted for them.

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Could've definitely done with some trimming, and it loses some steam by the end - but the first five songs are back-to-back classics. Seconding.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9Vciv8K9Rn0yV-v_bYyfPHhhpjA5GsMM

Chat, what's Thin Lizzy's most "metal" album?

>>129415855
I wasn't there bro. I'm voting now.

>>129415853
It's a killer record with so many good riffs. It's a breakthrough record with a distinct metallic edge.

>>129415925
>Chat, what's Thin Lizzy's most "metal" album?
Thunder and Lightning, and for the '70s Bad Reputation.
>It's a killer record with so many good riffs. It's a breakthrough record with a distinct metallic edge.
Outside of a few songs I don't really care for it, could never jibe with the vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbit81NeFlc

Heavy metal is the law

Heavy, speed, power, thrash, doom, neoclassical, it's the shit.

>>129415970

Vocals are cool in a carefree Di'Anno kind of way.

https://youtu.be/IB79pKUJN-o?si=JKf-4CdmYnJkMHbu&t=105

I can see how this influenced Metallica, and earlier in the song also Manowar.

Where can I download this amazing music? Does slsk still work in 2026?

>>129416094
Yes.

>>129416048
>I can see how this influenced Metallica, and earlier in the song also Manowar.
Lizzy has another song from their classic era that was probably an influence on Manowar as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwKfNmtKog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51k2n9pUE44

Other than the vocals this sounds pretty much like speed metal to me.

>>129416240
Sounds like something off Show No Mercy but with harsher vocals. So yeah, speedy thrash metal.

>>129416264

I never listened much to Show no Mercy. But I didn't realize Slayer and Blind Guardian had Something in common:

https://youtu.be/IIHrX2KwK_w?t=36
https://youtu.be/kOxGX3dmw3c?t=15

This is NOT death metal (there are no vocals, anyway). This is aggressive melodic speed metal with blastbeats. And that's a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvLxVjVaZag

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>>129416475
>I never listened much to Show no Mercy.
Favorite Slayer album lol. Hell Awaits would've taken that trophy if the final song wasn't a clear step back from everything else.
>But I didn't realize Slayer and Blind Guardian had Something in common:
They have MANY things in common, at least in their first two albums. There's a lot of thrash on BG's first two records and Hansi sounds sort of like Show No Mercy era Tom on them.

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Even wackier than Manic Impressions, and it's on a similar playing field quality-wise, too. Seconding!

(Also, I'm looking back on the 1987 chart and apparently Killing Technology didn't make it. If we ever go back to that chart, I will find a way to get that album on there. That is 100% an essential release for 1987.)

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>>129418616
Is this the first album with death growls to make a chart?

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>>129409191
Besides Sortilege, what are some other French-speaking trad bands worth checking out?

>>129409195
Somehow 1993 was a much better year for metal than '92.

My nominations:
Damn the Machine - s/t
Ritual - Valley of Kings
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
Iron Maiden - A Real Live One
Danzig - Thrall-Demonsweatlive

The Maiden release wasn't that great but is a personal favorite since it was my first Maiden tape and the Danzig release was what got me into metal.
I wish more people knew/talked about Ritual and Damn the Machine.

>>129420286
>The Maiden release wasn't that great
So it shouldn't be on the chart.

>>129413836

https://youtu.be/0UL_JXVIrqU?t=107

https://youtu.be/WlfS-oakUxM?t=237

Any more metal with warrior riffs like these?

https://youtu.be/T7mTWhZq1s8?t=1451

Listen to that riff. It blows my mind that this was 1980 (actually it was recorded even before, in 1979, and probably written earlier). This is METAL, no doubt about it. There's no way someone could confuse this as "rock".

>>129421352
I should have said not great by other people's standards, which I can accept. It's great to me. Most of the songs on it from No Prayer and Fear of the Dark are the best versions of those songs IMO.

>>129409191
the closest album to metal that isn't metal archives worthy

>>129420254
ADX's first two albums

>>129423172
That record being excluded from Metallum is just fucking baffling. I don't normally disagree with their exclusions; but Europe's debut album is traditional heavy metal, with hardly any hard rock on it (what, 2 songs?), and it has early power metal on it too. Wings of Tomorrow at least makes a LITTLE more sense since it definitely leans into the AOR direction at points, but their debut is clear-cut heavy metal.

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>>129420204
I don't recall any death growls on Screams and Whispers. If they were there, they didn't stick out to me.

>>129420286
Type O Negative's on the chart now, the rest of your votes are counted.
>The Maiden release wasn't that great but is a personal favorite
But next time, please don't nominate stuff like this. Your nominations should be able to hold their own on all fronts, from the personal level to the objective.

>>129423257
Maybe not a *death* growl per se but I would say he's growling at times in Driven

>>129423330
Listening to the song again, at 1:45 those are definitely growls, but it doesn't sound like death metal. Sounds more like tougher groove metal, if anything.

>>129423458
Oh yeah I agree it isn't death metal, I just thought it was interesting how they were incorporating something like that while still remaining trad

>>129423508
Yeah, it's pretty cool. There is one thing about that song that DOES remind me of OSDM though, and it's the dissonant opening riff and the chugging afterwards. Sounds like the guitars are downtuned, as well.

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>>129423257
Voivod - The Outer Limits

>>129423954
I was wondering when this one was gonna pop up.

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>>129420286
>>129421352
Should LIve releases really go on charts? seems a little odd to me.

>>129424108
I put a few on the '70s charts but I'd argue that you'd be REALLY fucking hard pressed to find someone that wouldn't consider Made in Japan or Unleashed in the East essential releases for that decade.

>>129411110
>Strange Highways
Fuck yeah. Overlooked album.

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>>129424031
Speaking of Voivod, I nominate The Outer Limits for 1993.

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Current vote totals:

>>129425273
You got it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8puBluDlJp0

>>129425319
I'll throw in a vote for Metal Church. It would also be a good addition to a future "worst /trad/ album covers" chart

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>>129425650
>I'll throw in a vote for Metal Church.
Alright.
>It would also be a good addition to a future "worst /trad/ album covers" chart
Oh god, first thing that popped into my mind was this beauty of an album cover.

@129425770
There's a few appropriate choices but some that just don't make sense.
>Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Shouldn't it be Paranoid?
>Killer
Replace that with Master of Puppets. MOP is a far more popular record and is a gateway album.
>Louder Than Hell
Bad choice, should've been Kings of Metal.
>Saxon S/T
NOBODY thinks this album is better than their early '80s output. If they do, they're lying.
>In Trance
Sticks out like a sore thumb, should be Blackout or Love at First Sting since those have more hits and catchier songwriting.

Whoever came up with this didn't really use their brain desu.

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For your consideration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7efHYVC7e0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2aOqJxLZKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecIs3iPxNCQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzGM-ZE7-Kc

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Decent. Burner's a fantastic song and the closer's great too, but nothing else here really hooked me. And I'm also not a fan of the production, it lacks the rawness their earlier records have, and just sounds sort of like generic metal.

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>>129416094
Yes of course
Download >slsk.exe

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>>129413836
Burning Saviour is doom metal perfection.

>>129416094
>>129428657
Download Nicotine+ instead.

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>>129409191
>EMPTY THE CHAMBER
>LOCK AND RELOAD
>THIS WORLD THRIVES ON DANGER
>ITS BOUND TO EXPLOAD

>>129426759
Baste. The first song I ever learned on guitar was Twist of Cain.

>>129429322
For those who are wondering, this is the song that anon was quoting:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=A119JsCmfVc
'Firepower' from the album of the same name by judas priest.

Personally 'No Surrender' is probably my favorite on there:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0RotWp2o02g

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>>129409191
Friendly reminder that a 1988 demo of a 4th Grim Reaper album exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWmx2t7uBg&list=PLBNsS-SiRBtHVkLKU5fxvDRHyoaC65R6M

>>129429446
I've been a Priest and Halford solo fan since forever but couldn't get into that album. I don't think Glenn Tipton actually played on it sadly.

>>129429464
I was into Firepower big time but Invincible Shield is where I draw the line. Sounds like generic Priest-influenced speed metal.

>>129413836
https://youtu.be/7ieJc7HmoDM?si=Pih7TV4ux-nSO_vx
https://youtu.be/MXx9S2nDouY?si=Zvt2TaSAbTpvFXfo
https://youtu.be/0u8teXR8VE4?si=NOWhaRzb0dhXxdjV
https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384?si=yWIuOHD079soGZFy
https://youtu.be/aDACorIaxNw?si=YAuQoseQy-05WDWn

>>129429464
>I don't think Glenn Tipton actually played on it sadly.
Is this a guess or did you read it somehwere?

>>129433055
I just don't hear it anywhere on the record. Do you?

>>129433106
He's credited in the liner notes at least.

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>>129433194

What do people think of this ozzy album:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Tears

>>129428642
Ultramegagigabased.

https://staind.bandcamp.com/track/no-ones-kind
Can anyone else see the similarity in the first riff in this song to that of the main riff in tribal dance (by armored saint)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4orIkG_tEQ
Or in zombie stomp:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=wHRE5DkvGCo

is sludge metal trad?

>>129434260
I don't think so. Maybe some early Crowbar?

>>129433468
His best solo album.
>>129434027
Yes, but Tribal Dance sounds amateurish in comparison to Zombie Stomp on all levels.

>>129434260
Isn't it sort of like fast doom metal with punk-y vocals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjlXjZ62dv4

This is intense af for 1971.

>>129435303
Live(?) version from that same year is even heavier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD_mytxCdeg

>>129435183
Yeah it's basically very angry doom metal

>>129435404
Then yeah I'd say it's fine, but it's one of those that depends on a few variables like thrash or groove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NCJBkB2Y1E
Guitar tone sounds like a tank moving along the ground

>>129435683

What genre of metal is this?

>>129435821
Sounds just like USPM to me

>>129435683
What a great find! Never heard of these guys before.

>>129435834
They're an English band, but I was going to say Heavy/Power. Definitely has a 90s AiC/Pantera influenced sound to it.

where to start with voivod?

>>129435860
>What a great find! Never heard of these guys before.
They were nominated for the '89 chart (downloaded that one too) and now 1993's. Definitely enjoying this a lot so far, and I'm close to the end.
>They're an English band, but I was going to say Heavy/Power.
Heavy/power is more or less treated the same as USPM on Metallum, y'know Shok Paris and Manowar are classified as that and in my experience there's not much difference between USPM and heavy/power.
>Definitely has a 90s AiC/Pantera influenced sound to it.
That it does. You should listen to Psychodrama, this one screams AiC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7wrGcXxFkM

>>129435898
Killing Technology.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dcSzgIj-0o
What are those dings during the chorus? Is it the audio track being switched?

>>129435979
might be string noise from the bass. idk.

can you hear it in this remixed version too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T-fNAq-9Js

>>129436158
Yes, but it's a lot quieter.

>>129435445
https://youtu.be/U9uxSdTwDTE?si=vuevyYiao2p9rcr0

Maybe listen to this and judge for yourself. The music is pretty trad friendly but the vocal style is interesting. Crowbar is generally lighter on the hardcore influence. Something like Buzzoven just doesn't make the cut imo.

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Great, consistently fun heavy metal with a lotta good riffs. Has my vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874uS3m5c_Y

>>129436192
Yeah I'll make that my next listen. Been meaning to check Crowbar out for a while, anyway. :P

>>129436192
Just finished the song. It wasn't what I expected, but the riffing was pretty damn cool.
>The music is pretty trad friendly
The actual music is trad, I agree. But the vocals are much harsher than I expected. To my ears it doesn't sound like an entirely different technique (like gutturals are) and sounds like a coarser version of what you'd hear in doom metal, but not to the extent of death-doom. So yes, I'd say this style of sludge metal is fine.

>>129435979
Sounds to me like string noise from the guitar.

>>129435000
>Yes, but Tribal Dance sounds amateurish in comparison to Zombie Stomp on all levels.
Is it a bad song, or is it just a more raw feel?

heres another song that vaguely has a similar riff/vibe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ9dnWoNdLk

>>129436684
Huh. I'm surprised they left that in, I don't recall any other Manowar songs with it.

>>129409195
+1 for Marshall Law - Power Game

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>>129409191
Europe is Metal?

>>129437422
No, not bad. But it sounds like they didn't work on the song/composition that long, which of course makes sense for a band of Armoured Saints' status. The No More Tears album on the other hand has fantastic production values and Ozzy's status made sure they had time to put every note where it should be.
>>129439057
You never heard Europe outside of Final Countdown (which has a KILLER guitar solo)?

>>129409191
Since I saw Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyjfNqFv2DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZciAN7POFE
^love the solo in the second one

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>>129439057
First two albums are, absolutely

>>129438743
Counted and added

>>129442225
GRANDMAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>129425319
+1 to Motorhead, Rage, Saviour Machine. working my way through the others

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQTze7LFmJw

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>>129444664
New additions

>>129425319
ok +1 to Skyclad. that's it for the 2s, might get to some of the 1s later on

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Added

Such a cool solo, the title track had a really snazzy one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty0XQ_gmEe8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7tz2tSfVLk&list=RDd7tz2tSfVLk&start_radio=1

I just don't know where this melancholic vocals are in other NWOBHM metal songs

https://youtu.be/FjQvLlmtfbE

>>129446335
I was just gonna post Schenker tunes. Not that he's in that particular song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHNfsQzO9KI

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Great record. Highlights are the lead guitarwork, Tim's vocals, and the title track. Nominating this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKN3rSczlH4

>>129446298
Reminds me of this one.

https://youtu.be/lnyENlPatGs?t=479

>>129425319
adding a vote for Only Living Witness, really liking this one

>>129447138
Ye ye, wrote it down. I might go check that out

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Some of the riffs on here are just fucking amazing, bros. Seconding this for sure
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLghCIJvpL9WlvNw-PgS-RyMtQ0VDRTFCP

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>>129413836
Never listened to this one before, looking forward to it

>>129420254
Trust:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSQ3BnlwEQbLEkPN5nv_A8z-Gp-ZfxKE8

H-Bomb:
https://youtu.be/jkmgHJgZl4I

Blaspheme:
https://youtu.be/UB9MXzwx_dI

Vulcain:
https://youtu.be/ntpT_Hp93y8

Attentat Rock:
https://youtu.be/_XpvWomzA9M

Voodoo Child:
https://youtu.be/jt0SJqlgH70

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>>129423224
>>129447957
Thanks frens. Adding these to my queue.

>>129409787
as someone who finds fourth legacy-black halo kamelot the best music has to offer, conception is fire

I started to listen to Firewind's first album. The vocalist sound like Graham Bonnet. Good shit.

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>>129413836
Took me far too long to get to this. Essential listening if you're into early Queensryche and Crimson Glory.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvjIcJNCx1AId26_dJZutpmMiaMj3gDs_

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>>129455915
Good find. I never heard them before but I'm digging it.

The vocals remind me a bit of Sacred Blade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GLoqtzCtw

>>129456225
>Good find. I never heard them before but I'm digging it.
They also have an album from 1989 that I believe one person voted for on that year's chart, too.
>Sacred Blade - Of the Sun + Moon
I remember liking that one, but Salem clearly stood a foot above the rest of the record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymyG_3Shyn0

>>129456320
The main guy behind the Sacred Blade album rerecorded it under a different band name in 2005 and it's somehow better in some ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXkwmi0HIi8
Couldn't find the full album on youtube albeit.

>>129456386
>The main guy behind the Sacred Blade album rerecorded it under a different band name in 2005 and it's somehow better in some ways.
Interesting, what are the main differences?
>Couldn't find the full album on youtube albeit.
There's three versions on slsk but they're all fairly low quality, hovering around the 192kbps range.

>>129456459
Some of the drums are a bit different on Of the Sun + Moon and I think there are one or two song that are either new or didn't make it from the original. It's been a while since I've listened to them back to back.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/29og0f69xq32en8
You're welcome.

>>129456548
>Some of the drums are a bit different on Of the Sun + Moon and I think there are one or two song that are either new or didn't make it from the original. It's been a while since I've listened to them back to back.
I'll check it out soon, Cirith's just about over.
>You're welcome.
Yeah, thanks man. Where'd you find a 320kpbs copy? Personal rip?

>>129456606
I downloaded it ages ago from a forum post from someone who presumably had the disc. It's amazing how hard it's gotten to find good rips of things that were readily available just 10 years ago or so.

>>129456631
It seems like FLAC rips are generally better so I have started downloading those and converting to 320 kbps myself

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>>129413836
Amazing sound for a three person band.

>>129456631
>It's amazing how hard it's gotten to find good rips of things that were readily available just 10 years ago or so.
Yeah, it sucks but I'm glad that I can still find most things without TOO much of a hassle. Up to now, I'd say there's only 5-10 albums that I've had to abandon listening to because I literally couldn't find them anywhere.

>>129456459
>>129456606
is there a way to here the difference from different kbps?

>>129456868
Clearer instruments, better sound quality, that sort of stuff. Not really noticeable (in my experience) in the 200s but 100s it becomes pretty fucking apparent quickly.

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Am I the only one who listens to Morgana Lefay here? I put them in a category I like to call "power metal for people who think they hate power metal". They're really heavy, even thrashy at times, and I can't really think of any other bands that sound quite like them.

JUUUUUST A FANTASYYYYYYYYYYYYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh_vOH6zjdg

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>GEOFF TATE Is Putting The 'Finishing Touches' On 'Operation: Mindcrime III' Album

>>129457748
I wish all of those guys would have just hung it up when Chris DeGarmo left. I don't know how anyone could listen to anything past Promised Land at least.

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>>129457748
why.... goddamn it, why? last i checked mindcrime II was reviled by everyone except the mainstream critics, what fucking sense does it make to do a third one?

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>>129413836
This was really, really fucking good. The production's full and a big step up from Of the Sun + Moon, the omissions (and subsequent additions, like the three new songs) serve to benefit the album rather than take away from it, and the redone track order flows much better than I remember the original being.

>>129457982
It's okay, but I prefer Of the Sun + Moon. The omission of Salem really pisses me off and I think the re-recording of Moon sounds weaker than the original:
https://youtu.be/dohE4-oj82o
https://youtu.be/6Mj5WZ-jgSI

>>129458022
>The omission of Salem really pisses me off
That was my favorite off Of the Sun + Moon, but I think the replacement tracks make up for it.
>and I think the re-recording of Moon sounds weaker than the original:
Not a fan of the snare sound on the original but otherwise I agree.

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DAVE MUSTAINE HAS UNDERGONE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!

From this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecXxv-GuTY

>Do I wish it was 1982 all over again? I'd give anything for that chance

to pic related

>>129458104
The final victory was over himself.

>>129456941
I downloaded most of their discography a couple of months ago. Haven't had the time to listen much though. Going to try to do that in the coming weeks.
>>129457748
Good for him if he feels like he has something to say, but I don't have high hopes it will be any good.

bumping this thread for you uncs and aunts

>>129456941
I listened to some of that album yesterday. It took me a while to get a feel for it but I liked it enough that I'm gonna listen to the rest later.

>>129457855
The craziest metal opinion I've ever heard is a guy on an old metal forum I used to frequent who genuinely thought part 2 was just as good as part 1.

>>129461845
Yeah, you need to listen to their albums a few times before you really get into them, but once you do, it's excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzU3iR3Wrog

The main riff sounds like something that could be put out by a 70s metal or NWOBHM band. In fact I'm sure I've heard it before but I can't remember where.

>>129462575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_bWlmbeb0

>>129462705

Yes! That's it! You've found it! Thank you!

>>129462751
Motorhead was definitely influenced by ZZ Top, they even covered one of their songs during the recording of their debut, though it wasn't originally included in the album

>>129462575
The main riff in this Lizzy song's pretty similar, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6P-FcSHXrc

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>>129416517
>And that's a good thing
Nah I disagree, blast beats do not work with classic metal riffs at all

>>129409591
I second Aspid and Visitör. Especially Aspid, that album is such a banger.

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>>129413836
Only a madman would not check out an album with a cover this insane.

>>129425319
+1 for Visitör from me as well. fun, quick listen

>>129466118
you have successfully intrigued me

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>>129452283
HEIL

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>>129467077
They're on the chart now

>>129409191
the 1989 link in the pastebin is a 1987 chart just fyi

>>129467492
i'll fix it next thread, thanks

>>129467395
Riot - Nightbreaker
Their Mike Dimeo stuff is really underrated.

Is this the wiggerslam thread?

>>129467395
this is a really solid chart so far. might have trouble filling it out but so far it's maybe the strongest 90s chart

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>>129413836
Give this a listen. Powerful:
https://youtu.be/EzByI2-P2ic

https://youtu.be/xFXsEXTcJa0

https://youtu.be/PoPLuSMoqu8

https://youtu.be/p3aPF6ZGvhs

https://youtu.be/PGi7UoYxSR0

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>>129470010
Tior moon on the album cover's pretty funny

>>129470899
I still haven't listened to most of the noms, but the ones I have checked out have all been great.

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>>129471000
What the fuck, I've never seen that cover art before. Why does it have three different ones anyway? I think I prefer the first one.

>>129471158
shark one for me. one of the few Riot album covers that's actually good kek

>>129471158
>Why does it have three different ones anyway?
Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe it's a different markets thing?
>I think I prefer the first one.
Personally the only one of these I like is the 3rd one. V1 looks like a bunch of random elements slapped together, and V2 looks like it's for a different album entirely.

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>>129413836
I love this song (and album) so fucking much bros. It's literally flawless.

https://youtu.be/MkZ565NHxWE?si=SjroE274C5n32-Mi

>>129471368
Strange Wings was always my favorite from that album.

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MA's standards for reviews were a lot more lax back in the old days lol

>>129471755
What a bunch of bullshit. I had far more thorough reviews denied back then, but they were known to suck the dicks of certain users, like UltraBoris, even though most his reviews were shit.

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>>129471586
I listened to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2nOKh4YU0 talking about why a band didn't become bigger (in the US) and more specifically why a certain album didn't break them in America, and they talk about that album.

For me it's two big reasons:
1. Jon Oliva's theatrical vocal performance. It's not exactly something that a normie would listen to.
2. The album's production. It sounds like they recorded the album in the hall of the mountain king. I think it sounds cool and fitting but there was not a single hard rock/metal album that hit the mainstream that sounded like that.

>>129471158
I was gonna say that I actually like the first cover the most but then I noticed on the third one they put the seal face on the moon so that wins me over lmao. The shark from the second cover is also there right in the middle.

>>129473047
Unfortunately true. Jon Oliva is a very quirky singer and very over the top. Still, he's probably my favorite trad metal vocalist if I'm being honest.

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>>129471000
I wonder how many people actually contribute votes to these things, because Strange Highways not being on there yet is wild. What's the highest number of votes an album has gotten?

>>129474992
>What's the highest number of votes an album has gotten?
6 and iirc only two albums have gotten that. (Artillery - Blind Inheritance and Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond)

>>129456941
I don't hear any power metal

>>129475032
tbf once an album makes the chart there's no incentive to vote for it. i know i haven't bothered voting for stuff i like when it's already at 3

>>129476059
true, and i can't think of any way you could incentivize it without fucking with the integrity of the chart.
>i know i haven't bothered voting for stuff i like when it's already at 3
same, and most 4+ votes are from people who used the anchor post but didn't check the rest of the thread. outside of that, an album going above 3 votes isn't very common.

>>129476113
>true, and i can't think of any way you could incentivize it without fucking with the integrity of the chart.
i don't think there's any need to

>>129476172
agreed, the only change i've legitimately considered is when we eventually go back to a few of the '80s charts (was thinking 83, 84, and especially 85) that the amount needed for guaranteed inclusion should be 4 instead of 3

and to be honest, i've never been particularly happy with how 1985's chart came out. it went on for almost a month, and it went on so long that people just stopped voting on it.

>>129474606
Yeah, he objectively has a fantastic voice, but he sings very eccentric.

>>129413836
Found this gem. Madison - Diamond Mistress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOx0VFVV_lo
1984 is the year that keeps on giving.

>>129415925
They got progressively heavier since they first stepped into metal with Emerald on Jailbreak, thunder and Lightning might even be more of a heavy metal album overall than hard rock

>>129425848
BABY CAN'T YOU HEAR ME CALLING I'M IN TRAAAAAAANCE
I DRINK TOO MUCH ON MY SATURDAY NIGHT HEEEEEEEYYYYYEEEEEYYYY HEY

>>129435303
Wait till you hear this doom metal song with Suzi Quatro from 1970:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmv2u7WnOc
Or better yet the first pure doom metal song ever made in 1968 by a Danish Psychedelic/Progressive rock band. The entire album sounds like typically light-hearted hippie music, and then out of left field for the last track on the album they drop the heaviest song in existence by that point in time.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4pVfYhUyo4s
>t. Probably one of the most prolific origin of heavy metal enthusiasts on Earth that has collected every single known (hundreds) of metal songs from 1967-1977, if you have any inquiries ask away

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MEGADETH AT SUMMERFEST!

>>129479382
That album got them accepted into Metal-Archives. I'd say it's a Heavy Metal album.

The Metal songs: the title track, This Is the One, Cold Sweat, Someday She Is Going to Hit Back, Baby Please Don't Go, Heart Attack

Hard Rock songs: The Sun Goes Down, The Holy War, Bad Habits

>>129479985
Yeah
Another good example of an album that treads a blurry line between Heavy metal and hard rock with a slightly more metal leaning is Riot's Rock City
5/9 metal songs: Desperation and Angel (borderline HM/HR with slight HM edge), Overdrive, Heart of Fire, and Warrior are all pure metal

I don't know why RYM doesn't rate Rising as more Heavy Metal than Hard Rock when 3/6 songs are metal but those songs make up 66% of the runtime

>>129480261
>I don't know why RYM doesn't rate Rising as more Heavy Metal than Hard Rock when 3/6 songs are metal but those songs make up 66% of the runtime
that's the "rainbow isn't metal!" crowd voting it down + people that don't know how to use the genre voting system.

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>>129413836
https://youtu.be/vlTDbwVOdug?si=_NUIpQyUmMcEOSSH

Working out to some Tokyo Blade today. This song is a fucking banger. The verse riff is badass and the chorus is incredibly catchy without losing any heaviness

>>129480553
>"rainbow isn't metal!" crowd
there's a "rainbow isn't metal" crowd!?

>>129481285
yeah, they're the same types that determine how something metal is based on the image of the band and lyrics rather than the actual music. (see also; scorpions, and mk. ii deep purple)

>>129481285
Zoomers who think metal started with Kill em All.

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>>129413836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skezn8DioRM

>>129481380
Not just a zoomer thing

what're the vote totals at

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>>129482432
here

What does the trad stand for?
Tranny Diaper metal?

>>129482695
Sorry to disappoint you hon

>>129481822
One of my all-time favorites. I like their earlier releases too despite the vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvyyAu5wz7Q

>>129482473
i'll vote for Dio on there. i liked it more on second listen

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>>129484536
added, is it at least on par with dream evil? if so i might check it out

>>129484710
idk i vaguely remember checking out Dream Evil for one of these threads and i don't think i voted for it so take that for what you will
not too well versed on Dio's solo stuff outside of Holy Diver

>>129482695
Your gay overproduced zoomer genre that doesn't even play real drums wouldn't exist without Trad metal, extremefaggot.

>>129413757
Why aren't the Somberlain, Focus, and Heartwork, already on the chart ?, they are obvious picks for any 1993 metal list.

>>129485574
>melodic black metal
>prog/tech-death
>melodic death metal
no

>>129485649
Why ?, people are suggesting even death metal albums ITT, so I see no problem with that. Also, if you can include crap like type o Negative, then there's really no excuse.

>>129485685
>people are suggesting even death metal albums ITT
which albums

In my opinion after 1991 its no longer trad. You could easily make an argument that soundgarden or any alternative act is traditional metal, but thay kind of goes against the point of these threads. It would be nice to have a space to talk about alternative Metal though

>>129486123
So bands like Iron Maiden or Judas Priest aren't heavy metal after 1991?

>>129486227
I mean the nebulous concept of traditional metal.
Thats still metal, but made it bands past their prime, it can be good but the legacy of priest and maiden is essentially fossilized in the late 20th century

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>>129485024
Strange Highways is angry gravel voice Dio. Basically a follow up to Black Sabbath's Dehumanizer.

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>>129486421
yeah i couldn't help but compare it to Dehumanizer on first listen. I love that album so SH seemed disappointing but listening to it again as its own thing it was good

>>129486123
Then explain bands like Cauldron, Cauchemar, White Wizzard, Vulture, Enforcer, Riot City, Evil Invaders, Savage Oath and many others.

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>>129481299
>yeah, they're the same types that determine how something metal is based on the image of the band and lyrics rather than the actual music. (see also; scorpions, and mk. ii deep purple)
i wonder what those people think of virgin steele or euro power metal.

>>129486421
>Strange Highways is angry gravel voice Dio. Basically a follow up to Black Sabbath's Dehumanizer.
>>129486630
>yeah i couldn't help but compare it to Dehumanizer on first listen. I love that album so SH seemed disappointing but listening to it again as its own thing it was good
you can also compare/contrast it to thw nwxt album angry machines. That ones a little more weird/experimental though.

>>129487965
I don't remember Angry Machines that well because I've only listened to it a couple of times, but just from memory Strange Highways had more memorable songs.

>>129489537
I like stuff from angry machines but it might be an acquired taste.

>>129487960
in my experience they consider it plenty metal.
>lyrics about fantastical subjects
>soaring, high-pitched vocals
>fast-paced guitars
it's simple, but this is the type of logic those dudes operate on.

also once this thread is over i want to move this general somewhere else. the stuff that's being implemented right now is really shady, and i do not trust this site anymore.

>>129492417
what do you mean

>>129492501
threads about it are being deleted but essentially it's fingerprinting and data harvesting, from what i've read it's real glowie shit

>>129492509
The captcha has been completely fucked for me the last few days so I have to phonepost. I block all third party connections by default but that still allowed me to post before

>>129492599
>The captcha has been completely fucked for me the last few days so I have to phonepost.
yeah i've been having some captcha fuckery on my end too. that's another reason why i've wanted to move somewhere else, too. i'm sick of doing these stupid tests every time i want to post or sometimes it not even working at all.
>I block all third party connections by default but that still allowed me to post before
true, i do as well, but i worry about when the site implements weird bullshit.

>>129492599
Temporarily disable your adblocker, do the captcha until it gets through, re-enable your adblocker. Somehow it will keep working as if they're still unblocked.

>>129492799
Oh my, weird. Still, the current captcha is cancer.

>>129492350
>>lyrics about fantastical subjects
>>soaring, high-pitched vocals
>>fast-paced guitars
>it's simple, but this is the type of logic those dudes operate on.
Rainbow also has all of those things, so I don't understand them. Rainbow's most famous song (Stargazer), is about a wizard trying to build a magic tower.

>>129493349
with rainbow specifically, i haven't seen many people that claim stargazer, a light in the black (and to a lesser extent tarot woman) aren't metal, it's everything else like starstruck, run with the wolf, sensitive to light, etc. but on rising specifically, the rock songs make up the minority of the record, so i don't fucking get it either.

Some ZoomZoom was dissing me for wearing my RIP Ozzy shirt and my battlediaper to CostCo. Swung my cane after him but fell and scrapped my knee. Fucking hate these hip hop kiddies. Metal for life.

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>>129494726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKDsokOUOZw

>>129494754
is there any good live versions of into the void? that's my favorite song off MOR

>>129494791
for stuff with video there's the '99 reunion and Ozzfest '05. if you search on youtube there's bootlegs from the early 70s. i don't think the song made the setlist much after the MoR tour

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