>>129567519
It's used as a kind of little motif and parallel to the events of the story, the kind of neat detail that is probably why it's one of the kids' books I remember the most fondly.

>>129568006
That second movement goes hard as well. It feels like a different side of Mahler. I like how dissonant everything is.

>>129568140
That mandolin part in the 4th movement, what a weird symphony.

>>129568245
That last movement, it's like a parody of music and his own music. What a great symphony. Makes sense it wasn't a success at all and that shitty 8th was such a hit. God, I hate the 8th.

>>129568372
That ending, clap clap clap.

>>129568372
The 7th is better, but only very slightly. There is no bad Mahler symphony:
9 > 6 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 7 > 8 > 2 > 1
Actually 7th might be my least-listened symphony, like >>129568006 says, I don't just barge through every piece the composer wrote. 7th was the last to click. I have a suspicion I might rank it above 4th one day, but 3rd is too dear to me, and the 9, 6, 5 are irreplacable.
The 8-hate is cringe and unwarranted.

>>129568429
I still need to click with 4th and 6th. 3rd is probably my favorite too. I just really dislike the 8th, I saw it live a few years back but that didn't change my opinion of it. Like I don't really get the 9th in his entirety but the 8th I just find annoying to get through.

>>129568006
yeah the 7th is bomb

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For today's opera performance, we listen to Verdi's Don Carlos conducted by Carlo Maria Giulini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1QrUbQ2zQc&list=OLAK5uy_kvPN--L2WbHcjvGA0q9PsdRrVeubphfDc&index=25

210 minutes runtime!

>>129568372
>>129568480
if you don't enjoy the 8th, i guess you won't have a good time in heaven either

>>129568904
We here at /classical/ prefer hell.

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Surprisingly good

Mussorgsky's Boris Godunov sounds like a Russian Wagner opera. Great stuff.

Went to Berlioz Symphonie fantastique conducted by Makela with Chicago Symphony Orchestra. I went for Beethoven 7 mainly, as I heard Symphonie fantastique before with Orchestre philharmonique de Radio France, and maybe not disliked it outright but did not enjoy very much. However I liked Makela's version a lot more. He's very expressive on stage - even jumped a few times. The program described Berlioz as a bridge between Beethoven and Mahler and you really feel Romanticism being born after Beethoven 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU06POl0DFU&list=PLfJSnjMLSGVHrU3TTKJ59p5g7-VgEAgM4

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Listening to the birthday boy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKLDMYUPeMs

>>129570054
Nice, that's a show I'd go and see if I could. Plus you'll get to say you saw Makela near the start of his career. How was the 7th?

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Olivia Rodrigo is studying classical music in order to write her first symphony

>>129570543
what a waste of ink that shit is

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>>129570097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FoABv3IhDg
Doesn't get more epic than this piece

>>129570543
nice, classical finna be mainstream again, bet

Mahler 1 is underrated. Listen to Walter's (it's a good stereo recording, not hissy or mono)

>>129570868
The first three movements fill me with as much bliss and serenity as anything in the repertoire but the finale is a mess.

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For tonight's opera performance, we listen to Richard Strauss' Die Frau ohne Schatten conducted by Wolfgang Sawallisch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP8o63w5zAo&list=OLAK5uy_k3GbVE-rGynGiVaAM9j5yIx9vau7gD5lw&index=1

Chopin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZJethIZRY8

>>129570969
Man, Strauss loves the female voice. And this is why I love Strauss.

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>Juliette Nadia Boulanger (French: [ʒyljɛt nadja bulɑ̃ʒe] ; 16 September 1887 – 22 October 1979) was a French music teacher, conductor and composer. She taught many of the leading composers and musicians of the twentieth century, and also performed occasionally as a pianist and organist.[1]

>Born into a musical family (her father Ernest and sister Lili were acclaimed composers), Boulanger entered the Conservatoire de Paris at an early age but, believing that she lacked particular compositional talent, she forsook writing music and became a teacher. In that capacity, she influenced generations of young composers, especially those from the United States and other English-speaking countries. Among her students were many important composers, soloists, arrangers, and conductors, including Grażyna Bacewicz, Daniel Barenboim, Lennox Berkeley, İdil Biret, Elliott Carter, Aaron Copland, David Diamond, John Eliot Gardiner, Philip Glass, Roy Harris, Quincy Jones, Dinu Lipatti, Igor Markevitch, Astor Piazzolla, Julia Perry, George Walker, and over 250 others.

damn

the mother of modern classical?

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Is this a fucking joke?

best recording of Mahler 7?

>>129572227
I just go with Abbado because he's my guy.

>>129572290
Ew.

>>129570491
> How was the 7th?

Nothing to write about.

>>129570543
>backbeats

we don't do that here, sweetie. this is a no nigger neighborhood.

favorite recording of Beethoven's 'Les Adieux' Sonata?

>>129572227
Kondrashin/RCO

>>129572227
Karajan of cou-- oh. Erm. Nevermind.

>>129572227
>>129572964
Kondrashin/RCO is the easy stereo pick yeah

>>129572227
Alexandre Bloch

>>129572833
Pierre Barbizet

>>129572227
Ignore everyone else, the answer is always Abbado.

>>129574021
>the answer is always this middle-tier lukewarm cycle

Ironically the Abbado Mahler 7 with Chicago is the precise example where Abbado really is a pretty uncontroversial answer for the best recording, regardless of his other efforts.

>>129574748
Huh, really? Why?

>>129572833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiS-MQV6QwM

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Who is the greatest living classical composer, John Williams or Hans Zimmer?

>>129575889
Has Zimmer even composed any absolute music?

>>129575963
Pirates of the Carribean

>>129575889
Jonny Greenwood

finally listening to Keilberth's 1955 Ring, and the sound quality is so much better than I expected, it's not in the same problematic group as Krauss, Knappertsbusch, Kempe, or even Furtwangler, you can hear everything with clarity. Loving the singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKfrIe_sNuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1LkHeEGOTs
I gotta say, this is quite bad. Not what I expected from a production involving Böhm and Fischer-Dieskau.

It's crazy to think that today we can listen to the greatest operas and greatest performances of them a thousand times, yet many of the people who lived around the time the works were written and originally performed maybe only got to see and hear the work once or twice at most in their entire lives.

Is there someone who applies this kind of rubato to the right hand in the Moonlight Sonata?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZhBCGz56Fc

>>129576397
Yeah that's not doing it for me either. Thankfully there's plenty of other great Don Giovanni's to choose from. This guide seems to like that one tho
https://interclassical.com/record-guide-mozarts-don-giovanni/

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Does anyone have Karajan's recording of Wagner's Tannhauser they can upload and share? It's not on RT from what I can see. Please and thank you!

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Chopin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghWlLbYG-A&list=OLAK5uy_my53BmSOgeB8_VACU4Kul3hB6y557M9qM&index=8

>>129576524
Cortot's rubato is special, no one except maybe Koczalski, Rosenthal have that kind of technique IMHO. Unsurprisingly, all 3 of them are pupils of Chopin's own pupils.
There's a recording of Cortot playing excerpts of Moonlight sonata, to hear how it'd sound:
https://youtu.be/2am66HouOuE?si=sgVp36L6pxF_Ve1C&t=412
You might want to check out Hofmann, Friedman, and maybe some others, can't really say. This is the closest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U9aaU57UVQ

>>129576913
>This is the closest
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U9aaU57UVQ
Upon listening, yeah this is easily the best interpretation of the sonata I've ever listened to. First movement at least. What he does is magical.