I guess this is for the increasingly tall lanklet freaks out there? I'm already kind of borderline on 700c because my parents didn't force feed me bovine growth hormone milk like a veal calf being fattened up for a japanese business lunch, but I've learned to deal with the clunky, oversize hoops on my bikes because tire selection is better

Motorcycles that go 200mph are running on 17 inch wheels yet somehow we're still fucking around with oversize bike wheels

I'm usually the last person to bitch about new standards coming out for no reason but in this case I literally do not understand what they are thinking. We need to re-examine the food supply, maybe RFK was right

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Custom 36er chads still winning

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>>2070779
Glass smooth tarmac racetracks and rough rocky rooty terrain favor very different tires
6,000lbs 1000 horsepower Baja 1000 trucks use 40" tires
Can Ams and Polaris RZRs, that are like half the weight of a Miata use 35"s,.and now they beat the Ultra 4400 class trucks at KoH
Holy fuck this place is still infested with the most vile toxic fucks in the world, in every single section, including bicycles lmaooooo

I can't wait to ride a 32", and I vividly remember the first ride ever on a 29er, and all the shit talking faggot would not stfu about why 26" is better than 29".
Dudes were like "Downhill will NEVER use 29" Okay but but Redbull Rampage will never ever use 29".


Bro it's simple physics
6' 6 figures 6" and girthy as fuck btw hope this helps

>>2070783
>6,000lbs 1000 horsepower Baja 1000 trucks use 40" tires
meanwhile average dirtbikes that aren't made specifically for the small-dicked to feel big and instead actually to go fast on gravel or dirt only use 19".

>>2070783
Everything in this post reeks of insecurity and Axe body spray

>>2070785
Not sure where you get the insecurity from. He's calling out the boring grouches that frequent this board. The vast majority of the posters here are poorly socialized contrarian losers

>>2070784
21s actually nigga

>>2070786
Nta but he's right, you are insecure and smell of Axe, it's as clear as day

>>2070794
And I'm not the guy who made that post
If you could read that would be evident. The fact that I actually do smell of axe and insecurity has nothing to do with this and was just a lucky guess.

>>2070779
lol manlet cope

>>2070787
>>2070784
unironically ive had actual motorcycle riders at work ask me how i feel safe on "thin"(normal 1.75") 26" tires going as fast as i do

>>2070812
Why are you rolling on 1.75s? Is it the 80s where you live?

>>2070816
I live permanently in Nineteen Ninety Never.

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>mfw still rocking 26inchers and rim brakes

>>2070820
>and rim brakes
i do this too but because i am a massive pussy unwilling to drill holes in my frame. mechanical disc brakes are vastly superior to rim brakes in literally every way from maintainability to field repairability and all fairweather performance metrics inbetween and the literal only reason to not use them is lack of mounting hardware

>>2070822
I have the option for discs on my frame and run rims for old school feels and sketchyness

>>2070824
rim brakes suck but i cant fault a nigga for doing shit just to do it; driving on the edge of traction just to feel alive

32" isn't enough. If you aren't riding at least 40x0.60 you're a fucking faggot who has never raced in his life. There's a reason that every courier in New York uses 42" and up.

>>2070822
You wouldn't catch me crashin out with unc brakes on my bike fr fr. Disk is bussin

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Gave myself a lot of time to think about this

There's no reason not to have a bunch of different tire sizes.

We have fifteen brands all making the same fucking slicks, XC, Trail, Enduro, and DH tires.
It's not that complicated to have:
16" tires
20" tires
24" tires
26" tires
27.5" tires
29" tires
32" tires
650b
700c

I mean damn there are HUNDREDS of different car tires

I say we stop fucking around with all these bullshit tread designs. We don't need a bunch of tire sizes, but I see no problem with adding 32"

You guys are a bunch of loser ass fucking chumps holy fuck

Ugh my damn typo. We don't need a bunch of different widths, wheels widths, and treads. We need different total diameters for different people.

Also,.I know how right I am because I've been rocking 29x2.40 and 700x28's, 30s, 32's 35s 38s and 40s LONG before the whole gravel trend came, and now road bikes are rocking 32s

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But it's alright, Imma buy a 32 and tell you guys how it goes.

I also love how many tire compound options we have.

Toodalooo loooosers!!!! Hhhahahhahahaha

>>2070878
>hurrr durrr cars

>>2070774
Finally i dont have to look like im on a kids bike.
29 is borderline but it still look kinda wonky. Exited to try them out honestly.
I think a 32 touring bike or gravel hybrid with efficient tires would slay like crazy.

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>have to pay more for tyres
For all the benefits tall people really get the long end of the short stick don't they?

>>2070849
please die

>>2071021
Why do you even need bigger tires as a beanpole. Commercial jets are on tires 1/10th their size but you need a wheel that comes up to your waist why?

>>2071034
well, why don't you put bmx wheels on your road bike, then, shorty?

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>>2071047
Ok. What's next?

>>2070780
clownfeet: the bike

>>2070812
Honestly as a moto guy myself it freaks me out seeing road bikers in so little gear and on machines with so little braking power and grip. I got half my face and arm skin ripped off going over the hood of a car and face down into the asphalt at like 15mph on a bicycle when I was young and it's why I don't ride acoustic bikes anywhere near pavement and won't go anywhere near my moto without full gear on, but then I see dudes doing like 55mph downhill in nothing but spandex and a styrofoam helmet, or dudes on ebikes doing 40mph in traffic in shorts and a t-shirt, and shit feels sketchy as fuck to me.

>>2071993
The spandex dudes had to ride long enough to:
>Learn and get comfortable on a bike
>Get good enough on a bike to want more
>Upgrade to a road bike
>Ride enough to get uncomfortable enough to get over their fear of lycra
>Upgrade to a nicer road bike
>Get strongk enough to climb mountains on a bike and actually enjoy it
>Have to come down the mountain they climbed up

So they're going to have a lot more bike control skill compared to
>Want to save money on a car
>Google "cheap ebike"
>Buy the cheapest ebike they can find
>Charge it up and go crazy and possibly not die

Ebike guys will seethe at me and unracers will piss and shit themselves with rage but it's a fact, if you're going 55mph down a mountain in spandex you kind of earned it, if you're going 55mph on a multi-use path screaming at old ladies you didn't

>>2071995
I get all of that, but none of that is gonna make a difference if you get hit by a car or drop the bike due to some uncontrollable external factor (spilled oil on the road or whatever) and slide across asphalt and into a guardrail at high speed. I guess it's just something you live with since it's not practical to ride in moto-style gear but it still gives me the heebie jeebies.

>>2070820
rigid forks on the mountain bike

>>2071998
I can't speak for everyone but I don't take corners at anything near those kinds of speeds, so oil slicks are not a major concern. I've had a couple of cases where I braked too late on a hairpin (the kind where you can see the oncoming traffic from above) and it got a little spooky but that would have entailed going into the shoulder and flying over the bars like a retard. The real problem is potholes and debris on the shoulder on the more heavily traveled roads but in those kinds of conditions I'm not going terribly fast (or I'm taking the whole lane and I can go fast enough to at least keep up with traffic if not overtake)

Motorcycles are different because you're expected to take these long sweeping curves (like on a highway cloverleaf) at extremely high speeds like a car, that doesn't really happen with road bikes.

>>2070879
yes we do because how will i make any money if you can go to another supplier for spare parts after you buy my bike?

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>>2071995
the problem with this fantasy of yours is that ebike owners tend to already know how to ride a bike. DUI riders look at the price tag and recoil in horror, complaining that they can get a used Micra for that much. muh unracer fred types are mostly people like (you) who look at cycling as fashion and not as a mode of transportation (hence the lycra and rubber band tires on a 420:1 gear ratio when it is -3 and snowing out instead of something weather-appropriate)

thoughbeit >>2071993 is correct but only halfway. understandably a real motorcycle requires lots of safety guy but seething about e-bike riders not wearing 90 pounds of kevlar and leather is like looking at vespa riders and seething that their helmet is wrong and their blinkers are decorative

as for braking and grip blame people who seethe about MECH DICKS REEE and insist rims are the only way to go, and similarly that if you aren't riding on perfectly smooth toroids of rubber you're not a "real" cyclist. stock ebikes tend to come with mountain bike tires and discs, if not being fatbike monstrosities with dual rotor hydraulics. in fact most "ebikes" i see still being sold are basically baja bikes with the engine removed and a motor and battery put in their place. the commuter cruiser style is a lot less popular and motorized road bikes tend to be PAS only and not very stronk

also plenty of motorcyclists just dont wear gear. dont tell me you havent seen white trash riding dirt bikes on the main road in banged up jorts and a wife beater with the only head protection being a pair of Pit Vipers that cost more than the bike

tl;dr none of you are free from sin leave my ebike alone

>>2072006
They "know how to ride a bike" the way americans with a drivers license "know how to drive a car", not being legally prohibited does not mean you're good at a thing it just means you won't be arrested for doing so

>>2072016
the average ebike rider is honestly some hood rat nigger who can't operate his own legs let alone a vehicle, but the same could be said of street bmx riders 10 years ago. not all ebike riders are niggers and white trash but most such people deserving of every racial epithet you know are usually ebikers (and 5 years ago all had sit-down mopeds, and before that were usually seen on too-small BMXs and hardtail MTBs stolen from children)

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I'm ok with 32. I think they would be too big for me though since I'm 5ft 7

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>>2070825
>rim brakes suck
They don't. Just because you use your brakes as a crutch for poor technique and judgement that doesn't mean they are bad.

>>2072038
"Good technique and judgment" just means going slower for the same conditions because it's the only way to be able to stop in time. Follow that logic far enough and you're stuck in the lowest gear trundling along at 7mph so you can drag your feet on the pavement. If that's how you get your rocks off more power to you. For me it's a hard no. I'd rather just enjoy the benefits of this cutting edge product that has only been widely available for 10+ years now and be able to use the shitty technique of actually using my higher gears sometimes.

I hate californians so fucking much.

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>>2072045
I hate to keep bumping this shit thread but since I know it's me you're seething at, you should at least orient your seethe farts so that they are pointed at the correct target

>>2072053
>"rim brakes are perfectly fine!!!"
>t. thinks 15kmh is fast because of riding in start-stop NYC flatlander hell traffic

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>>2072054
Indeed, being able to stop in chaotic traffic is useful, and once you venture outside of Times Square there are in fact non-trivial elevation changes. Maybe not as extreme as Pittsburgh or San Francisco, but more than /r/NYCbike/ seems to think since most of those posters never venture out of the West Village

>>2072056
>>2072054
Also I am the one telling you that you are an idiot, rimjob-kun. Sorry if the truth hurts but I warned you to un-clench your anus, not my fault you didn't listen

>>2072057
rimjobs are based but rim brakes are not. i like to be able to brake instead of colliding with pedestrians and the sides of SUVs when retarded cagies pull out in front of me and recording it on my Insta360™ for ebin urbanist updoots. simple as.

>>2072062
if you can't control your bike with rim brakes, that means you're shit at situational awareness and aren't good at braking, thereby needing a handicap.
it's fine. ride whatever you want. but your issue is you think everyone is as shit at riding a bike as you.

>>2072071
Actually it's the other way around, better braking lets you respond to new threats faster. if your reflexes aren't good enough to take advantage of improved braking, you should probably consider just walking or taking the bus.

>>2072071
>antique bike brakes
>current year
Wew lad

>>2072072
I've commuted for decades, so you're obviously wrong but keep coping.

>>2072075
You mean you've "just commuted" for decades. Not real commuting if your brakes don't matter.

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>>2072071
as literally everyone on the shared roads says, you can be the best pedestrian/cyclist/driver/pilot/sailor/astronaut on earth and never do anything wrong, but there is always some idiot out there

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>>2072099
That's how you can tell Just Commuters from Real Commuters. The former think that good brakes are optional because no outside agent is ever going to interrupt their line of travel. Everything is always fully predictable, flat, and open, all the time. So of course they would think it's absurd that a several feet worth of reduced stopping distance is actually a big deal.

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But I have a 31" inseam. How do I 32" wheels?

>>2072108
https://talksport.com/motorsport/3331699/formula-1-austrian-grand-prix-mclaren-crash-red-bull/

you can literally be one of the best drivers on earth, and then there's some cute little twink who forces deletion of the entire front half of your vehicle from existence

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>bicycle development

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Yea it's dumb new shit that won't change much, BUT AT LEAST IT'S COOL.

All these years of "tapered steerer tubes" and "disc brakes" and "noseless saddles" like who the fuck cares man

LOOK AT THOSE BIG WHEELS THAT'S COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>2072040
I'll agree that hydraulic brakes are better in wet conditions than rim brakes. The difference in braking power when it's raining on my rim brake bike is noticably less. Not by enough to care but enough to take more caution. In the dry though? Shiiiiiiiii I've used mechanical rim brakes before and the difference is negligible and I'm not spending 200 dollars on aliexpress shimano hydros to find out what hydraulic pushbike brakes feel like

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>>2072369
And to add another thing
>pic related
Kill yourself

>>2072370
everyone admits that hydros are higher performance but you're a retard if you can't "modulate" cable brakes and an extra 70cm of braking distance is well worth 180$

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>>2072390
That wasn't the point. The point was that they are not as much of an improvement over older standards than the proponents of hydros would lead you to believe they are. Also that 180 dollars could have been spent on 18 innertubes, which have a real world benefit that is immediate and not marginal like 70cm braking distance.

>>2072155
Your feet only need to reach just past the axle for pedalling. You could theoretically have 60" wheels if you wanted.

>>2070774
cool
>32" tires
>wtb horizons with shitty puncture protection and feels like biking though dry sand

If huge wheels are good and fixed gear is best, why aren't we still riding Penny Farthings?

>>2070774
Cool bike