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Justice Department accuses Yale medical school of illegally using race in admissions

The Justice Department is accusing Yale University of illegally considering race in its medical school admissions

The Justice Department on Thursday accused Yale University of illegally considering race in admissions to its medical school — the second institution to face discrimination allegations by the federal agency this month.

In a letter to a lawyer for Yale, Harmeet Dhillon, assistant attorney general for civil rights, said a DOJ investigation found that Black and Hispanic students have a much higher chance of admission to the medical school than white or Asian students, despite having lower grade-point averages and lower test scores.

“Yale has continued its race-based admissions program despite the Supreme Court and the public’s clear mandate for reform,” Dhillon said in a statement. “This Department will continue to shed light on these illegal practices, and demand that institutions of higher education comply with federal law.”
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The university replied in a statement that its School of Medicine “is confident in the rigorous admissions process we follow,” and it will review the Justice Department letter.

“The students admitted to Yale School of Medicine demonstrate exceptional academic achievement and personal commitment; its program of medical education encourages curiosity and critical thinking, and its graduates go on to become leaders in clinical care, research, and public service,” the school said.

Since President Donald Trump returned to office last year, his administration has been putting pressure on universities to stop using race as a basis for admission, which conservatives view as illegal discrimination. And a U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2023 banned the use of affirmative action in college admissions, in cases involving Harvard and the University of North Carolina.

Last week, the Justice Department notified the University of California, Los Angeles, that its medical school illegally considered race in admissions.

In the letter to Yale, Dhillon alleged the New Haven, Connecticut, school was violating Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibiting discrimination and said the DOJ is seeking to enter into a voluntary resolution agreement with the university. She also noted in the letter that the agency has the authority to take the school to court to enforce Title VI if it cannot obtain compliance through voluntary means.

The DOJ cited differences in grade-point averages and standardized test scores as evidence of racial preferences in the incoming classes of 2023, 2024 and 2025. In Yale’s most recent class, Black students had a median GPA of 3.88 and a median MCAT score in the 95th percentile, compared to Asian students who had a median GPA of 3.98 and white students with a 3.97 median GPA. Both Asian and white students of that class had median MCAT scores in the 100th percentile.
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“Based on our preliminary review of the applicant-level data, Yale’s use of race resulted in a Black applicant being as much as 29 times higher odds of getting an interview for admission than an equally strong Asian applicant with similar academic credentials,” Dhillon's letter said.

The Justice Department also described Yale’s use of a holistic admissions process as a means for the school to consider race.

The letter also cited Yale’s amicus brief in the Student for Fair Admissions lawsuit that led to the 2023 Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, where the school said it would not be able to maintain diverse classes without explicit consideration of race. The department said the fact that Yale was able to maintain similarly diverse classes despite that brief as evidence that the school had engaged in race discrimination.

Dhillon wrote that the lack of any change in Yale's admissions outcomes after the Supreme Court ruling showed "a willful failure to comply with that decision.”

In March, a coalition of 17 Democratic state attorneys general filed a lawsuit challenging a Trump administration policy that requires higher education institutions to collect data showing they aren’t considering race in admissions.
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>>1515177
PREDICTION OF HOW THIS THREAD WILL GO:
/news/ leftists will come in here claiming that it's not racist.
When asked to elaborate the /news/ leftists will say that being racist is not racist and that actually opposing racism is the real racism, so racial discrimination is not racial discrimination because not discriminating against people due to their race is actual racial discrimination.

Once we all laugh at them and point out how fucking stupid that sounds, some of the leftists will try to change the topic and that one 16-year-old foreigner will have his usual meltdown where he accuses everybody of being an "esl shill."
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>>1515184
>leftist
Hello russia, how's year 5 of your 3 day special operation going?
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>>1515192
>we hate White people and men and we love open borders and think feminism is great and think men can turn into women and should play women's sports and we hate guns and love censorship and love violent crime and think Trump is literally Hitler and think the only thing wrong with the Democrats is that they aren't far left enough
>but we aren't leftists!
lol
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>russians
>white
pick one
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>>1515184
Well I was just told that Chinese agents being elected in California was Trumps fault because of student visas so I am guessing they will try to blame Trump somehow.
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>>1515177
DEI is fighting racism. Fighting racism isn't racist.
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>>1515202
lmao, Trump is selling out American farmland to China
BDS won't save you, silly shilly
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>>1515177
Didn’t they say they’d do this explicitly, along with countless other universities?
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>>1515203
So you're saying that Yale is not being racist? Could you elaborate on that?
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>>1515212
Its not racist or illegal to not allow Republicans into polite society
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>>1515184
You’re on the wrong board
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>>1515213
that has nothing to do with this thread so I guess we are at "some of the leftists will try to change the topic"
>>1515214
>I'm a newfag who barely uses 4chan but let me tell you about 4chan!
lol
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>>1515215
here's a rupee faggot. use it to search for a real job
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>>1515216
does this count as
>that one 16-year-old foreigner will have his usual meltdown where he accuses everybody of being an "esl shill."
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>>1515217
>no mom, the board loves me
>its just one person calling me an esl shill
>its just one person, and they're probably an indian
>its just one person, its not the whole board shitting on me and calling me an esl shill
lmao, fuck off back to your containment board, esl shill
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>>1515214
How can we keep the kneejerking reactionary faggots off /news/?
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>>1515229
There are only like eight of us here to begin with and we just talk the same shit to each other in every thread. Literally no one besides us on the entire internet gives a shit about this board. /po/ has exponentially more traffic than our board
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>>1515231
as usual, no /news/ is good /news/
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>>1515179
>>The Justice Department also described Yale’s use of a holistic admissions process as a means for the school to consider race.
Universities don't want to reward parents that sacrifice a student's life on the altar of perfect grades. They want actual people on campus and not robots who also most likely cheated their way in
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>>1515231
how do we get mods to wordfilter "esl shill" to change the tenor of the board?
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>>1515236
THE BEATINGS WILL STOP WHEN YOUR POSTS IMPROVE
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>>1515236
You need to call every single poster, in every single thread, and esl shill. Be the change you want to see

>>1515236
>>1515237
>>1515234
>>1515233
>>1515231
esl shills
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>>1515177
I'm not going to believe an investigation on this subject from this DOJ.
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>>1515177
>tfw you're an ugly jeet and white men don't want your jeetpussy
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>>1515184
how is correcting racial disaprities racist?
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>>1515259
Racism is defined as discriminating against someone on the basis of their race.
If you deny something from someone based on their race, that is discrimination.
If you provide something to someone based on their race, that is discrimination.
Leftists insist that the disparities between races can only be rectified by taking from the mouths of one person and giving it to another, aka socialism. But leftists also assert that being white means you are automatically in a better position than someone who is black, so white people must have things taken from them and given to black people to fix the disparities.
Ironically, this is racial profiling and discrimination, just in the opposite direction. So leftists aren't actually against racism as a general principle, they just want to do it against white people.
"White" in this context also means jews and asians.
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>>1515259
>how is rejecting White/Asian applicants just because you don't like their skin color racist?
because it is. That's what racism is.
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>>1515200
>>1515223
I'm a progressive,I love white people, as you do Ranjee(Even though you never will be one). I own a gun, I think men should be able to transition into woman, but not play in woman sports. I detest violent crime and censorship, especially right wing kind. And tRump is Mussolini.

Whistle while you work, Hitler is a jerk,
He made Mussolini wear a sheeny to do is dirty work.
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>>1515192
hello leftist how long till you start calling everyone ESL because ur an uneducated loser?
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>>1515291
>I think men should be able to transition into woman, but not play in woman sports.
that's enough to make you a turf and get death threats anon...
just look at what they did to that poor J.K.rowling
trump is a necessity unfortunately.
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>>1515339
>>1515340
are you bullied so much that you've decided to post after we all go to bed?
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>>1515177
It's funny because no one gave a shit when it was white people, not republicans or democrats alike. They only cared when it was the heckin' asians
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>>1515291
>I love white people
then you must be very happy that Trump is consistently fighting to end racism against white people like this. And of course you hated how much Democrats like Biden wanted to discriminate against white people.
Right?
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>>1515340
It's a common position on the left to think people should be allowed to pursue happiness and transition with the help of a team of doctors, but not be allowed to compete in sports with cis women.

You think you have left-wing kryptonite here because you stupid maga bastards can't step a toe out of the party line without the fascist in chief throwing a fucking tantrum. Literally every right wing accusation is a confession. Now why don't you call me a faggot, closet case?
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>>1515200
>Russian seething this hard
Enjoy getting droned with the rest of the racist rightoids?
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>>1515358
You know it's possible to be a Democrat and not be in favor of affirmative action, right? Not every Democrat believes in extreme identity politics, that's like saying literally every republican has gay sex in airport bathrooms. I'm sure there's a couple exceptions.
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>>1515365
You initially replied to a post about leftists who support affirmative action. If you don't consider yourself a leftist and you don't support affirmative action then why reply to this >>1515184 in the first place?
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>>1515365
It's like being a democrat who is pro-life. Or a democrat who is pro-gun. You're a dying breed
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>>1515363
You mean a rubber stamp and a group of egg crackers on social media
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>>1515365
>affirmative action
affirmative action isn't what esl shills think it is anyway
there's never been a system that forces hiring based on race
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>>1515378
https://i.imgur.com/iVOVKJy.png
No, it is merely a system which treats people differently based on race.
To use a concrete example, if you had two students with the exact same MCAT score, same standardized test results. If the student checks a box saying he is black he will get an acceptance rate of 80%. If he checks the box saying he is Asian he will get an acceptance rate of 21%.
That means that 1/5 schools will reject both students with low test scores, 1/5 schools will accept both students with low test scores, and 3/5 school will accept or deny purely on the basis of race. Approving if he says he is Black, denying if he says he is Asian
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>>1515388
>That means that 1/5 schools will reject both students with low test scores, 1/5 schools will accept both students with low test scores, and 3/5 school will accept or deny purely on the basis of race. Approving if he says he is Black, denying if he says he is Asian
Thank you for demonstrating you have no idea what you're talking about.
At least you're good at regurgitating shitty racist logic
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>>1515389
How do you explain the 21% Asian acceptance rate and 81% Black acceptance rate if your MCAT is 27-29 or your GPA is 3.4-3.59?
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>explain neocon trash
if I was a stupid esl shill like the other guy, I'd be wondering why medical colleges aren't filled with mostly black and mexican with a few asians and white guys sprinkled in
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I guess that that 1/5 schools will reject both students with low test scores, 1/5 schools will accept both students with low test scores, and 3/5 school will accept or deny purely on the basis of race. Approving if he says he is Black, denying if he says he is Asian
Universities are deeply racist institutions. Students for Fair Admission V Harvard didn't go far enough. A majority of medical schools are corrupt, and will approve or deny on the basis of race.
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>>1515374
I am on the political left. I didn't respond to the post you linked, I responded to some idiot hurting their brain with an attempt at sarcasm.

>>1515375
You have no idea what you're talking about, tons of democrats are pro gun, especially in more rural states and areas.

Fucking nobody should be pro life, god doesn't even consider babies alive judging by the punishments it prescribes for murder vs. causing someone to miscarry. If you don't think people should get abortions, don't get a fucking abortion. The only people who should be telling other people whether they can have abortions or not is doctors.
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>>1515177
Does anyone in here really seriously think Yale isn't discriminating against Whites and Asians?
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>>1515408
Most of America
If you actually thought they were you'd be bringing up current medical student population instead of trying to imply there's a problem by looking at decade old admittance stats.
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>>1515421
How do you know most of America feels that way?
Do you have some pew polling in your back pocket or are you talking out your ass?
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>>1515421
It's a fact that Yale and most universities heavily discriminated against Whites/Asians until a few years ago when SCOTUS struck it down. Since then, the people in charge of admissions are the same as the ones who used to discriminate and the universities still promote the same anti-White DEI rhetoric they used to.
The fact that the only people denying it are also the same people who think Yale should discriminate against Whites/Asians says something.
>decade old admittance stats
If schools focused on education instead of wokeness, your generation would be able to read:
>The DOJ cited differences in grade-point averages and standardized test scores as evidence of racial preferences in the incoming classes of 2023, 2024 and 2025. In Yale’s most recent class, Black students had a median GPA of 3.88 and a median MCAT score in the 95th percentile, compared to Asian students who had a median GPA of 3.98 and white students with a 3.97 median GPA. Both Asian and white students of that class had median MCAT scores in the 100th percentile.
>2023, 2024, 2025
>most recent class
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>>1515443
so the only thing to support your claim is Trump's backward engineered trash?
That means you don't actually have anything
The DOJ has been documented extensively as being ignorant liars during Trump's term.

Come back when you have something substantial
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>>1515443
If schools focused on wokeness instead of education you'd have a point. It's too bad that shit only happens in the same place you have to go to win an argument; a fucking fantasy land.

If your generation focused a bit more on wokeness, maybe you fucking retards wouldn't have elected an imbecile based on the same fascist fear mongering your parent's generation had to go fuck up in Germany. If your parents were still alive they'd be fucking ashamed of you. Go into the light you old piece of shit.
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>>1515486
actual ESL lmao
>>1515529
Schools do focus on wokeness which is why this board has had like 1000 threads on wokeness in schools (including DEI hiring and promoting). Your generation was """taught""" by woke feminist teachers which is why you can't even read. Now you got proven objectively wrong and your response is to get mad because that's how children think you win arguments
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>>1515177
That's actually a common fantasy for white people as well
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>>1515177
Just start killing these people. If she wants people to die then she should die.
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Thread Summary: /news/ - "Anti-racist Republicans continue fighting against racism: DOJ sues Yale for racism" (Thread #1515177)
Short-to-medium length /news/ thread reacting to the Trump DOJ (under Harmeet Dhillon) suing/lettering Yale Medical School for alleged illegal race-based admissions favoring Black and Hispanic applicants over White and Asian ones with higher GPAs and MCAT scores.
OP Post

Image: Sarcastic "yale kill white people.png" (likely a meme highlighting anti-White sentiment or DEI).
Title is ironic/sarcastic: Frames the DOJ action as Republicans "fighting racism" by opposing affirmative action/racial preferences.
Thread Dynamics

Pro-DOJ / Anti-DEI side (dominant tone on /news/):
Celebrates it as enforcement of color-blind meritocracy post-Supreme Court.
Mockery of "holistic" admissions as code for racial discrimination.
Point out hypocrisy: "Fighting racism = stopping anti-White/Asian bias."
Data drops on admission gaps.

Opposing / Left-leaning replies:
Defend DEI as "correcting disparities," "not racism," or necessary for diversity.
"Holistic" process arguments (want "real people," not "grade robots").
Whataboutism, topic changes, or denial that it's discrimination.
Some skepticism of Trump DOJ motives.

Classic /news/ shitposting:
Early prediction post accurately forecasts the thread: leftists redefining racism, topic derailment, "ESL shill" meltdowns, Russia/Trump tangents.
Insults fly ("jeet," "kneejerk reactionary," "rupee" jabs).
Meta-discussion about board quality and low traffic.
Tangents into broader culture war (borders, feminism, etc.).


Overall Quality: Typical polarized /news/ reaction thread. Heavy sarcasm from OP side, defensive equivocation from the other. Informative on the Yale case details early on, then devolves into standard tribal bickering and low-effort memes. Reflects ongoing post-2023/Trump-era pushback against race-conscious admissions in elite institutions. No major new revelations; mostly venting and signaling.
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>>1515888
kek is this from an actual AI? Which one?
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>>1515945
It's Grok

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