>>2858679
You definitely made some huge mistakes and betrayed your normie bias with that list.

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>>2858679
>Idaho in D Tier
>Alaska not in S
anon's vision needs to be checked

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in order within the tiers also
Pennsylvania image looking suspiciously like South Dakota
>>2858682
Idaho is also at the bottom of the western states for me, still better than pretty much anywhere else though. I like New York because Niagara Falls is cool as hell (though technically the best part of it is in Canada). the adirondacks and finger lakes area is good too though

>>2858694
wait Ohio was meant to be in D. all the D and F are shit anyway

>>2858698
michigan is not a fair pick because the UP and LP are completely different /out/ experiences.

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>>2858679
Based only on states I've been /out/
>New england in the fall mogs anything I've ever seen, but southern new england is too small
>Mountains of upstate ny and pa are beautiful, as is the UP in the winter
>Wisco has great lakes (pun intended)
>Fl and tx are unique but actually /out/ing is a miserable experience
>Everyone else is fairly boring, pine barrens get a shout-out
List will most likely change soon when I see the southwest and the rockies

>>2858795
Wroclaw my hometown. It is a nice region with mountains and shit.

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There are a lot of beautiful places in this country, and people who are not generous with their ratings have simply not explored enough. Driving across a state on the interstate doesn't count.

>>2858795
Leave my Cuiavian-Pomerania alone you bastaaaaaaard.

>>2858682
Idaho should have been C but a lot of the state is just strip-mined badlands. The pretty mountain lakes are a small portion of the country.

Alaska is kind of one dimensional and is infested with mosquitoes. It is very pretty but mostly just swamp and tundra. Washington is basically the good parts of Alaska condensed.

>>2858774
>Based only on states I've been /out/
We don't do that here. We must give opinions on all 50 states even if we haven't left our home county.

>>2858680
It's a climbing bias. Mountains are the only thing in nature that is beautiful to certain people. Nothing else exists.

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>>2858679
How is MN below New Jersey?

>>2859436
Mosquitoes probably

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>>2858679
not just for out, but where I would like to live. I am from Germany. Some odd choices, I know.

>>2858679
Criminally underrating Oklahoma

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totally biased and only places i have visited
basically everything not in f tier gets a pass
and i am pretty sure there's okay parts of all of three of them, i just didn't see them personally

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Idaho, Nevada, Utah, California, Arizona would be top of my list. If you don't know what BLM land is don't reply

>>2858679
Thank you for the honest rating, everyone please stay out of the upper Midwest for your own good. If you are a non-Germanic person I will zap you with my Aryan space laser

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>>2859310
>Idaho should have been C but a lot of the state is just strip-mined badlands. The pretty mountain lakes are a small portion of the country
Huh?

>>2858679
Texas in C? What the fuck is there? Unless you like driving several hours out of any metroplex.

>>2861297
Anyone who rates Texas higher than a D- is not being honest and likely baiting. Do not take OP's post as being candid in any way.

>>2858928
>being this scared of water

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>>2858679
i tried to distribute them evenly to the ranks but in actuality half of states are worth visiting for a while and another half simply are not

>>2858682
while AK is beautiful it lacks variety, especially considering its size
his S tier states have more variety than the A tier ones, excepting Hawaii and Utah

>>2858774
>jersey mentioned
>shouted out even
New Jersey supremacy

>>2861297
>>2861375
Texas defender here. Big Bend is great, Guadalupe and Palo Duro Canyon are nice, some nice spots in Hill Country, Caddo Lake is pretty in a kind of mystical way, wild beaches on the barrier islands, lots of cool caves. The Rio Grande Valley has good birding, Aransas is the best place to see the endangered Whooping Crane, arguably the best state for birding in general. Also pretty good for other wildlife in places like Big Bend or along the coast, also has the largest bat colonies and bat flights which are really cool.
>>2861399
saying Alaska lacks variety is nuts. It has the largest temperate rainforest in the world and some of the largest dune fields in the country. Nevermind the mountains, coast, tundra, wetlands, volcanoes, icefields etc. Also the best state for wildlife by far.
wildlife is imporant for me when it comes to "natural beauty" by the way

>>2858679
waitasec floridas mid? there's worse than here?

>>2858679
Ranking the states I've actually been to, and done some /out/ in:

S: Arizona, Florida, Wyoming, Nevada, California, Tennessee
A (these could be argued to be S tier, in my opinion): Utah, Louisiana, Oregon, Colorado
B: North Carolina
C
D
F: Ohio
If you live in Ohio you don't really have /out/, it's the only state in the union that just miserably fails at that.

>>2861472
>it's the only state in the union that just miserably fails at that.
you've obviously never been to missouri then.

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>>2858679
>MN
>D
I know im biased cuz I grew uo there but MN has great out- northwoods, great lake, lush river valleys, drifless area, prairies...and lakes- a bajillion lakes over almost all of it. BWCA is one of the premier out in the US. "D" is fake and gay

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I've never been to the west coast because my family was poor and we always drove whenever we wanted to go somewhere so I'm excluding all of that. New York is just in f tier because I took the train from Philly directly into NYC and basically never saw a tree

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>>2861470
i could have phrased that better
alaska lacks variety compared to states like california and arizona but definitely beats places like kansas or louisiana
also our wildlife is cool but scarce due to its size

in alaska:
boreal forest near water
>drive five hours
boreal forest
>drive five hours
boreal forest but wet
>drive five hours
boreal forest but no trees
>drive five hours
boreal forest but now siberia cold
>drive five hours
soggy tundra

the mountains are cool but compare that experience to california

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>>2858679
I suffer in Ohio

Disclaimer: western PA only

>>2861899
you have an unusual taste, anon

>>2858679
>Alaska A
>Hawaii S
>Idaho D
>Utah A
garbage thread

>>2861873
best part of CA is driving hours just to see burnt down forests!

>>2861932
we are comparing with alaska, which has it's own huge fire season and new charred forests every year.

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The UP is a mystical land that I make a pilgrimage to every year

>>2858679
>Desert shitholes at S tier
Yea no.

wow the same bullshit opinions from people who havent visited half the states they rank, marvelous :^I

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>>2858679
>https://tiermaker.com/create/us-states-36606

>>2859436
Anyone have this type of map of Michigan?

>>2858772
The UP is uniquely beautiful, but the Lake Michigan beaches on the LP are some of the best in the country IMO.

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>>2858679
Every single person has Indiana in F, what about the dunes and beaches? I think it should get a little bump, even if only a very small part of the state is really pretty.
Would love a version with the Canadian provinces, since British Columbia and Alberta completely demolish all the S tier states IMO for natural beauty.

>>2866105
Alberta and British Columbia are definitely S tier

>>2858679
Sam Diego is tops specifically north county

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>>2858679
Only did the states I've actually visited. Tiers are ordered.

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Here is Finland if someone even cares

>>2866105
>>2866325
I would imagine Nunavut is close to shit tier, and probably PEI too (is there even any place to go /out/ there?), but every other province and territory has so much unmolested space that even northern SK would drag that province pretty high up there

I've only been /out/ for any length in Alberta but it's probably like BC/AB/Yukon/Labrador tippity top tier, everywhere else at least bretty gud

if you do not consider Virginia S-tier or at least more beautiful than 90% of the West Coast, then you are a retard

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>>2866444
I've done some /out/ in Quebec, and I'd put it in a tier slightly below Vermont IMO.
Haven't been to the Quebec Chic Chocs (picrel) yet, so that may change my mind.

>>2866377
I care brotha

>>2858679
>>2858682
Idaho is an easy S for me despite not having ocean access. We have a great deal of variety here, we even have a rainforest and dunes.

https://youtu.be/RGI0G9o01gM?si=q7qV01NJ0lwS4sAl

>>2866444
Ontario and Manitoba go with the rest of the US Midwest in terms of /out/ in my opinion

>>2866531
Idaho is nice and there's a lot of opportunity to recreate but it's just not as spectacular as other states. I wouldn't go out of my way to visit.
There's a reason Idaho is the only western state without a proper National Park (besides the sliver of Yellowstone). That's probably a good thing for some people around here, but for whatever faults they have I do believe the National Parks generally encompass the most beautiful and spectacular areas in the region. Except Rocky Mountain, fuck Rocky Mountain
Anyway if this was an "/out/" ranking, whatever that really means, instead of a "natural beauty" ranking maybe Idaho can be S tier.

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didn't bother ranking shit countries (almost every country has nice parts though). I've only been to 5 of these by the way

some justifications
>Uganda
I've been fascinated by the Rwenzori mountains forever, number one place I want to see. Also I rate wildlife and Uganda has most of the usual African fauna, and also gorillas and chimpanzees.
>Ecuador
The Galapagos are like the holy grail for biogeography. Some of the best individual mountains in the Andes also.
>France, UK, Denmark
overseas territories included. not Antarctic claims though

>>2866570
Just going to comment on countries I've been hiked/skied/climbed in and disagree with your ratings on:
Chile is insanely overrated here.
Peru should be way lower too.
The best stretch of the Alps is through Austria and France. Easily A+.
The UK, Portugal, & Germany should be garbage tier.
New Zealand should be highest in the Southern Hemisphere.
Go to Banff or Jasper and then tell me Canada isn't S tier.

>>2866572
well from photos and videos and stuff the most beautiful parts of the Alps seems like Switzerland to me, places like Lauterbrunnen and Zermatt, and then Italy with the Dolomites. Maybe they aren't the best experience because of all the tourists or the price or whatever but that's a bit different, not what I was ranking.
I've visited Canada pretty extensively, it's great, probably some of the best mountains anywhere, certainly the best I've seen. But variety was a big factor for me for the highest tiers and Canada doesn't have the variety I think.
Chile does however. The fjords and mountains of Patagonia are like New Zealand or Norway on steroids, just much harder to access and actually experience, but the ranking is about how beautiful/spectacular these places are. Look up Marc Adamus, he's a photographer who goes deeper than most into the Patagonia fjords, stunning stuff. And Chile has volcanoes, the high Andes, rainforest, and the Atacama is a top tier desert.
For Peru, the Cordillera Blanca and Huayhuash seem to me like the best part of the Andes outside of Patagonia. And it also has good variety.
Portugal is carried by Madeira and the Azores, both look super pretty to me. The Algarve coast looks nice too.
Scotland and Wales have some great spots, but also the UK has many overseas territories. South Georgia is a favorite of mine, it's pretty scenic but I'm more interested in it as a wildlife destination.

>>2866575
I have literally been to Zermatt, and St. Anton is way way prettier IMO
Plus like the actual skiing/hiking/climbing in France is way more fun and definitely gets rowdier than the rest of the Alps
Like the freeride in France is just *chef's kiss*, hit La Grave this year and had a blast

>>2866590
well I'll have to see for myself, just hard for me to believe you can beat that iconic view of the Matterhorn. I've been to Mt Assiniboine and its the most beautiful mountain I've seen, but the Matterhorn seems even prettier from photos.

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>>2866599
I'm at Marmot Basin in Alberta right now for Spring skiing, and the views here are way better than the Matterhorn IMO
Here's a pano I took from hiking Marmot 2 yesterday

lots of NC disrespect here

>>2866605
Hearing about the awful state of snowpack south of the border this makes me feel a lot better. I was preparing mentally for a godawful smoky summer

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>>2866605
yeah I've been all around that area, Amethyst Lakes is probably the second most beautiful area I've backpacked in after Assiniboine. Also saw reindeer there which was cool.

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I’ve lived all over the US and been to every state. Pure vibes based ranking.

>>2866572
>Chile is overrated
lol no

>>2866569
Idaho doesn't have a National Park because the citizens here don't want one and have fought very hard to prevent one from being made. Idahoans don't want tourists.

>>2866654
Is Iowa really as bad as Ohio and Indiana? I've always managed to drive around it.

From an outsider it does seem like a direct downgrade from the surrounding states except Missouri

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>>2858679

I’m not from there so I don’t have a dog in the fight, but southern New Jersey is pretty nice and surely should place the state above, at minimum, a lot/most of the Midwest

>>2866710
There's nothing in NJ worth looking at you can't see a better version of by driving 45 minutes away. It has all the disadvantages of a small state with none of the benefits.

The fact that it's a strictly worse version of Pennsylvania and Maryland I think should count for a low score. I'm not saying it's worse than Indiana but it's definitely not a huge improvement either.

>>2866701
>w-we don't want one anyway
this is just what Idahoans say to cope about not having a National Park, fact of the matter is that nowhere in Idaho deserves the status

>>2858795
new fortnite map leaked

All you gays putting Rhode Island in f can kiss my ass. We have a world class striper fishery it’s A if you aren’t a poor fag without a boat.

>>2866818
RI is a fake state much like Delaware.

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>>2866821
Good don’t come here we are full anyway.

>>2861472
>you live in Ohio you don't really have /out/, it's the only state in the union that just miserably fails at that.
Doesn't it at least have extensive bike trails?

Does iowa have /out/ that ohio doesn't?

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>>2866823
no kidding

>>2866377
We care and we respectfully disagree, we also suspect that you are from Turku cause no way it is S tier

>>2866850
More than half the “state” is highway and parking lots. It really should just be absorbed into MA.

>>2866702
The Loess Hills, the Driftless Area, and isolated parks near the big rivers are enough to bring it out of F tier, but it's still 97% private land with a big chunk of that being monocrop farmland.

Basically anything that wasn't flat enough to farm on is either a city or owned by your co-workers uncle.

>t. A 30-year Iowan

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>>2861489
>you've obviously never been to missouri then
you've obviously never been to the ozarks

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>>2858679
Here's mine. Im unbiased and you all are wrong

>>2867232
>posts flat as a board, fenced off private pasture land that looks identical to anywhere else in the midwest

>>2866850
Rhode Island is a dumb state which is trying to turn itself into a sprawling slum. The state government is building low income house everywhere and there are laws that make sure every town has to build it but the border between eastern ct and western ri is the nicest place in southern New England before you hit the lakes region in nh.

>>2867262
Its not just low income housing. A lot of rural areas and farmland are being flattened for mcmansions because making less than 200k is poor in the coastal cities

>>2867233
cool memelist

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Nebraska has the best grasslands, an under-appreciated landscape
Too bad it's almost all private though. But driving around the sandhills in summer when it's lush is nice, super pretty.
Some other nice areas too, please don't bully Nebraska

>>2867262
high density low income housing is better than suburbs

>>2858679
What makes SD two tiers higher than ND?

I don't know, genuinely asking.

>>2867298
Wrong. Low income housing brings low income people and welfare warriors which shit up the town. No want wants an influx of poor retards in rural areas with low population density who immediately will outnumber the original residents and change the character of the area.
Plus they are building low income condo developments where only a small percentage are “low income” which means it’s just a sweetheart deal for developer cronies and their politician butt buddies to open up land for development that would otherwise be unavailability due to zoning laws. But because it’s low income they can avoid zoning laws that would prevent condo construction in rural towns.

>>2867320
lol

>>2867298
as long as it it is in the city center area, and away from people.
>t. ruralite who dreads having to see poors or browns, ever.

>>2867302
Badlands and Black Hills

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I love my area of Appalachia. As I type this the windows to my home are wide open and I am awash in the scent of the honeysuckle that grows along the fence in my back yard. I bought 10 acres with a 2,000 sq foot house at a very reasonable price. My property is in an area that is mostly national forest and for that reason is very lightly populated. A 200 acre state wildlife sanctuary borders my western property line. Appalachia has a moderate climate, lush vegetation, abundant sunshine and rainfall. We have strong storms that bring heavy rain that quickly pass leading to sunny days. These strong passing storms provide us ample rain while allowing a high percentage of sun during the day. Portions of Appalachia are designated as temperate rain forest.
Appalachia has a tremendous amount of freshwater streams and rivers enabling an abundance of fish and wildlife, including large game such as white tail deer, feral pigs and black bears.
Appalachia also has a rugged, independent, even rebellious population. Appalachia's rugged terrain, moderate climate, abundant fresh water and game make it a perfect area for the guerrilla war fighter.
There are many reasons that US Army Green Berets and Rangers retire to Appalachia. It is a place that calls people steeped in guerrilla warfare home.
Picrel is my horse grazing in a sunlit pasture next to an Appalachian mountain lake 900 feet from his barn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo

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>>2858679
Michigan gets higher marks due to the likelihood youll see a dogman in those creepy woods

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>>2858679

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>>2861873
S central AK has rainforest (literally 200 inches+ annual precipitation), boreal forest/taiga (dry and wet and Siberia tier), tundra, glaciers, boglands (flesh fly hell), volcanoes, unlimited rivers and streams, the ocean, bigass forested islands with no humans on it, beer, hunting and fishing etc all right in pic related.

Unfortunately, Alaska is terminally full and terrible.

>>2859862
OP summed up:
>durr, there no mountains!
The Atchafalaya Basin is the largest swamp in the US and absolutely breathtaking, but there’s no hiking and no elevation gain so coasties can’t even comprehend how to enjoy it.

California and Washington are S tier
Florida is A tier
Other things don’t mattered

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I just did the states I've been /out/ in.

>AK
No explanation needed; nothing even comes close.

>CO
Carried hard by the mountains but luckily there are a shitload of them. The plains are third-rate, sadly.

>MT, OR, WA
Gud mountains in the west (plus coast for OR and WA) and the east has fascinating geology. The Palouse is very underrated.

>WY
Gorgeous mountains and better-than-average plains, especially the karst areas.

>ID
The geological features are incredible and the wilderness is top-shelf.

>CA
Sure as shit wouldn't want to live there but man there's a lot of pretty scenery in the state, for all tastes. Deep desert, rainforests, coastal cliffs, lava flows, mountains...

>ME
Outstanding coast, outstanding fishing, ancient and fascinating mountains, excellent hardwood forests and nice pines.

>NH
Like Maine but not as good.

>HI
Completely overrun with people but I've been lucky enough to visit some of the parts with almost no people and it's beautiful. I think it holds up better than Samoa or Fiji and is about as pretty as New Caledonia though in a different way.

>UT, NV
Endless high-altitude arid lands and desert. Decent mountains and the Red Rocks country is unique but overall I'm left with a half-chub at best.

>AR
It's okay. Beautiful in the fall and I like the rocks but nothing about it really stands out to me for better or worse.

>AZ
Debated moving it up just because of the GC, but eh. Good deserts, decent mountains, very photogenic rocks all over the place.

>KS, OK
Flat and brown. Not offensive but man they're bland. inb4 "muh ozarks".

>TX
Furnace in the west, sauna in the east, 98% private and generally not that interesting to me. Big Bend is neat and the scenery isn't horrible but overall I don't have much to say.

>NM
Honestly I hate New Mexico (GOTT STRAFE PÑON) aside from the little dingleberry of the Sangres that hangs down into the north but I can recognize that a lot of it is pretty photogenic so I had to set my feelings aside.

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>>2858679
I've been to all the states, so I can post this with an educated opinion. S Tier is for states with truly unique natural beauty that stands out from the other states. F tier is for the shitholes that are more city than nature. I don't give a fuck if a state has nice parks or one or two tourist destinations if they're exceptionally difficult to reach or enjoy. I fucking hated my time in California and couldn't enjoy one goddamn place I went to. Meanwhile, every methed out ghost town in Arkansas is surrounded by the most beautiful pine forests in the world.

>>2868046
A man of culture emerges. Huge agree on AR, MT & ME. California, besides quite literally the very northern part, is a hellscape punctuated by soul-crushing and depression inducing towns.

Seeing Florida in the mid tier in a lot of these lists makes me feel a palpable sense of scorn for everyone responsible for the destruction of the state's wildlife. There is geneuine beauty to be found in the natural beaches and the varying ecoregions but by God I cannot stand people moving into that state and buying up the land. I CURSE EVERYONE FOR DESTROYING MY BEAUTIFUL HOME

>>2866377
I yearn to visit finland and interact with the autistic alcoholics known as finnish people

>>2859861
>Iowa
>Oklahoma
>South Dakota
>S-tier for want to live in
Mein Gott...

>>2859861
Germans are so fucking stupid god dammit lol

>>2867885
south central is nice in a way most people don't enjoy. anchorage and the valley have very nice weather with defined seasons but it's always shittier in whittier. girdwood is cool only if you like like skiing or prune fingers, the kenai peninsula is just lame for half of it's area and valdez is whittier except with more oil. there is a unique charm but it just disappears with more exposure

i'm not saying alaska is bad, i'm making the point that people glorify it to S tier when there are states that are simply better for /out/ings almost anywhere within their borders while alaska is halfway just shitty swamps where it gets cold in winter, hot and bug infested in summer, and you can't physically walk through them at any time of year

>>2858679
Wisconsin
F
Anon what the fuck. Go north of hwy10 and the whole state is absolutely beautiful. Also the driftless zone in the south.
You dont know shit.
Your thread is shit.
All the states except iowa and IL are S rated.

>>2868277
It's fairly obvious that OP hasn't been to half of the states he rated so I wouldn't get too worked up over it.

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>>2868277
>Wisconsin F
I'm not complaining keeps the normies and grey hordes out of our state, while the true residents can enjoy the state. Also keeps property values from exploding if they don't know about it.

>>2868309
>>2868277
>>2868316
Wisconsin is a fucking ugly shithole with horrible weather cope harder losers lol

>>2866570
France should be A+ and south America is a bit overrated I think

>>2868339
oh and Taiwan is an easy A+ but I've spent 5 years there so idk I might be biased

>>2868277
>zero mountains
>zero unique animals
>zero unique plants
>zero landmarks
>zero old growth forest
Wow sounds fucking awesome
Midwesterners should be banned from /out/ and I am not even kidding you people are so fucking stupid lol

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>>2868319
>>2868359
wisconsin has gnomes which makes it S+ tier for /out/. Wouldn't expect a westlet to understand.

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>>2858679
didn't put the overseas territories because I've never been and don't know them well enough to rank them. They probably all go to S or A+ though.

>>2868339
>France should be A+
if you go by diversity it's hard to put mainland France above A, including overseas territories I'd move it up yeah. Italy B+ is criminal though

>>2868339
>>2868340
>>2868381
just different standards? every country on that list is beautiful, even most of the ones I didn't even rank still have beautiful areas. If this were my states >>2858694 tier list and Italy were a state it would be S tier, Taiwan A

>>2868179
Agreed, with one exception right here. Anyways, educate yourself fool:

>>2868147
Iowa has underrated green rolling hills
Oklahoma has some of the most remote yet green reservations and vast yet diverse areas in the east
South Dakota is more naturally diverse than you apparently know, and it is out of the way

All underrated pearls where one most likely won't run into paste eaters like yourselves.

>>2868756
Damn Germans are a special breed of autistic retard

i dont understand the reverence for maine.

>>2866377
>no ebin tier
fake

>>2869422
maine is basically the logical conclusion of new england beach forests: a saltwater crag with a secluded beach and a pine forest. it is a really comfy style of camping that is unique to coastal new england, and the way i do it is to sail across a harbor and camp in a small forest accessible by cove. then i harvest wild mussels for dinner and bathe in the salt water, which is ultra clean compared to fresh water.

>>2869422
Take all the good aspects of the south, but make it a northern state and you get Maine.

>>2869467
is the south filled with the gayest pussy liberals and boomers too?

>>2858679
Why does everyone like Arizona so much? What are the good parts?

>>2868007
I also hate New Mexico. It has lots of aesthetic little rocks/mountains but it's otherwise shit. You can look at the rocks as you drive through it on your way to better places.

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>>2868046
>fucking hated my time in California and couldn't enjoy one goddamn place I went to

Thats on you. It has its misery quotient for sure but there are way to escape the madness and enjoy yourself. Its a huge state with top tier natural amenities.

>>2858679
Are the states ranked within each rank?
i.e. is Alaska the top tier of A and Utah is bottom tier of A?

>>2869595
The whole eastern half of the state is pretty beautiful most of the year. The best parts are probably the sky islands and sedona.

>>2868046
California being F tier is just plain retardation

>>2868046
What went wrong in California? Did you go on trails in national parks and sperg because it was so busy? Any time somebody doesn’t immediately love California for its outdoor potential you know they’re retarded or didn’t explore that much

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>>2864006

>>2868381
I really want to go to France one day for the nature, it looks weirdly similar to the Southwest US in some pictures.