Starliner love

>>16916466
*rape

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https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2024576713858912566
>Here's Boeing's statement regarding the Starliner Crew Flight Test report discussed today:

>starliner still kill
>sls delayed
>starship delayed
>vast delayed
>new shepard dead
>vulcan still fucked
>spacex pivot away from mars
dark times

Cancel gateway
Cancel starliner too

umm doomsisters it seems like NASA solved the hydrogen leak, how are we going to spin this one as bad??

>>16916464
Starliner made it to orbit, Starship didn’t.

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>SpaceX can land its rockets in The Bahamas again — and will do so very soon
>A Falcon 9 first stage will land on a drone ship in Exuma Sound during the Starlink Group 10-36 mission, which will launch 29 of the broadband satellites to low Earth orbit from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.
>Liftoff is currently scheduled for Thursday (Feb. 19), during a four-hour window that opens at 5 p.m. EST (2200 GMT).
https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/spacex-resume-rocket-landings-bahamas-after-starship-mishap-debris

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fucks going on?
https://nitter.net/Acyn/status/2024576497676407294#m

>>16916480
Trump is a retard.

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>Disagreement over crew return options deteriorated into unprofessional conduct while the crew remained on-orbit

>>16916483
it should be like that when lives are on the line

Starliner investigation report from NASA, for anyone that wants to read it.

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/nasa-report-with-redactions-021926.pdf?emrc=76e561

>>16916483
i bet someone said a naughty word

>>16916480
He's making a little joke about how they were after him for the "classified documents" fiasco

>>16916487
>NASA Human Factors interviews
>66 NASA and Boeing employees, NASAHFACS framework
>The Starliner mission delays and uncrewed return were caused by a mix of technical issues as well as human and organizational factors. Most NASA interviewees agreed that returning the crew on Dragon was ultimately the right decision while many Boeing employees disagreed, downplaying the technical risks. These differing risk perspectives persist today. Addressing organizational issues- such as expectations, assumptions, and requirements- offers a critical path forward to preventing future human and organizational factors from exacerbating performance problems and improving overall mission safety.

>5.2.3 Leadership
>Boeing mission leadership just wants to undoock, risks be damned, because that's what they did when they worked Shuttle
>"People said, ‘Why bother? He’s driving in one direction and that’s what he wants.’"
>Strong personalities within CCP and Boeing were seen as overly optimistic in presenting data, which some interviewees interpreted as lobbying rather than objective analysis.
>"If you weren’t aligned with the desired outcome, your input was filtered out or dismissed."
>"I heard them berate the safety engineers off muted mics."
>"It’s not an environment that is inviting to dissenting opinions."
>Following the mission, many interviewees perceived a lack of accountability among senior leaders, noting a greater emphasis on managing public perception instead of acknowledging and addressing the mission’s significant failures. Rather than demonstrating ownership of the issues, leaders were perceived as deflecting responsibility, which undermined trust within the workforce and among key stakeholders.

>>16916487
Though also
>“NASA wasn't blaming Boeing, but everybody else was. […] You know, it's our program. We're responsible too. Nobody said that. And nobody within NASA [or outside of NASA] has been held accountable. Nobody. We're 11 months after it happened, and there's been no accountability at all, from any organization.”

>STAR team (general CCP investigation) General findings (excerpt)
>Resources and skills were not adequate during key design activities prior to contract award
>The rigor in resolving issues identified by NASA during design reviews was less than expected.
>At the beginning of CCtCap, the focus was on SpaceX human spaceflight design maturity, with a preconceived notion that Boeing was more experienced in human spaceflight.
>NASA was unwilling to enforce the contract terms on Boeing due to prior cost and schedule over-runs and the potential consequence of enforcement.
>Shared Accountability Model did not operate as planned. The burden was on NASA to prove it was unsafe.
>Qualification tests had shortcomings.
>Lack of spare hardware available impacted ability to conduct testing when technical/performance questions arose.
>Unrealistic launch dates influenced Boeing design and build decision making.

>>16916480
Of course aliens are real, he just deported like 300,000 of them

>>16916497
whats the one on the right?

>>16916500
Florida gigabay

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nasa ninjas dont look as cool as the spacex ones

test

>>16916497
>>16916505
these things arent going to be finished until the end of the year at this rate

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>>16916500
https://youtu.be/Pr8dwTk8d40?si=IYtuv7nYH_UBbEeN&t=300

>>16916509
Of course not, 1st tower trench won't be finished either.

>There are some people that just don’t like each other very much, and that really manifested
itself during CFT

any catfights caught on video?

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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2024573085597225109

>>16916506
thats the spirit

>>16916483
Sounds like someone stood up to Boeing tards

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Starliner will never fly again.

>>16916492
Boeing did nothing wrong. They got shafted for the meme so the government goons could sidestep responsibility. Pathetic.

>>16916522
I know you’re just joking but it’s worth reiterating that this is entirely boeing’s fault and they purposefully hid data from NASA to save face and try to keep up the facade of prestige and nearly killed two astronauts, and seem to have no remorse for doing any of this

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>>16916521

>>16916525
Oh is that so? That’s not what the documents say.

>it’s just a joke

When you’re trying to gargle on daddy Trump and Lonny it’s easy to dismiss anyone pointing out their failings as just humorous jokesters I guess

>>16916521
Based. Fuck boing

>>16916525
Boeing leadership should probably be deposed and executed. Accountability

I think Berger is now also on Blue's payroll. Thoughts?

>>16916525
it seems like a great deal of fault lies with NASA ignoring the apparently obvious signs that Starliner was having an incredibly troubled development and green lit a crewed launch without closing out several issues with the craft. claiming this is entirely Boeings fault just reeks of Challenger levels of horseshit

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Starship parts washing up in a Tambohorano commune in Madagascar. From the rough translation it suggests 3 months are being given for it to be retrieved or it will become their property.

There's a facebook link, but I can't add it to this post because it's being considered as spam

>>16916567
You can get the link from this post

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/2024596978282197428

>>16916480
We're in slow-motion disclosure.
Spielberg's been part of the public opinion management on aliens for decades, and he has a movie coming out in June that's just a palatable mush of half-truths to prime the masses for info coming out over the next 10-ish years.
The real kicker is that they're not "aliens," just humans from previous interglacial periods.

>>16916567
cool

>>16916567
I just sent a message to them to cut it up and sell small parts to us for a discount

>>16916567
This is bad

>>16916570
Boomer hippies still believe in UFOs, aliens, and bigfoot lmao

>>16916582
VERY. Those engineers pictured at the scene are already replicating our technology at a rate much faster than China, by an order of magnitude. The race to the moon and Mars is lost to Madagascar. It's over.

>>16916567
Would make a hell of a still pot.

>2 hours left for the Artemis II Fueling Test
Will the test be successful this time? Place your bets now!

>>16916597
crew is about to leave, so hopefully everything goes well after that.

>>16916597
last time it took 6 months, so i cant really find myself being hopeful about this test

>>16916597
No. Isaacson already said Boeing failed bigly

>>16916602
what you mean is they had 6 months to practice and nail down the procedure

>>16916487
This made Type A when Skylab didn't

I'm starting to think they weren't telling us everything about the thruster failure during dock
It sounds like the astronauts saved themselves and the ISS from complete catastrophe and should be getting fucking medals

>>16916487
>Rocketdyne fucked Boeing with a bad thermal model and no one at Boeing checked their work
How do these people keep getting work

>>16916606
Isaacman was pretty clear in the presser that if it wasn't for Butch and Suni and the flight controllers on console using all their savvy and breaking standard flight rules to bring back the thrusters they probably wouldn't have made it.

Thank God for Boeing. NASA might have fucked the Starliner situation up even harder without their oversight.

Venus is the most beautiful body in the Solar System

>>16916628
t. slime made out of liquid lead

>>16916480
>m-muh aliens! ---increasingly nervous CIAnigger

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https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/2024617161130725396

>>16916469
Boeing statement: "Wesa gonna die!"

one chance at life and I had to be born as a c*rbon based form, god fucking damnnit

>>16916487
Due to the loss of the spacecraft’s maneuverability as the crew approached the space station and the associated financial damages incurred, NASA has classified the test flight as a Type A mishap. While there were no injuries and the mission regained control prior to docking, this highest-level classification designation recognizes there was potential for a significant mishap.

L-42

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>>16916628
The Pristine Snow Ball versus the Filthy Rotten Orange.

>>16916640
Venus is still worthless.

>>16916642
Mars is worthless

>>16916470
a new thing to add to the list:

>SpaceX has entered the bidding for a $100 million competition to create voice-controlled, AI-enabled drone swarms.

in other words, SpaceX is joining the military industrial complex.

>>16916644
Mars is worth far more than Venus.

>>16916645
This disgusts me. Lil Lonny dipshit needs to be removed from power

Trying to force shitty memes should be a bannable offense.

>>16916646
I see no reason for that to be true. Venus has a greater mass than Mars and should have a better "rare" (i.e. iron) element disturbtion, thanks to being closer to Sol.

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https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2024610072706355444

https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/19/spacexs-starbase-city-is-getting-its-own-court/

20 minutes... hydrogen is behaving?

>>16916653
don't fucking jinx it

don't forget to do your taxes, /sfg/

>>16916651
>>16916646
>It's too hot you'll never get the Iron.
TURN ON THE AC IN YOUR EXCAVATOR! If you stood exposed on the surface of Mars or Venus you would die. If you can pump pressurized air into the mining rig on Mars you can pump cold air into the one on Venus. Nobody can explain why it's diffrent.

>>16916645
real? whats the point? why would spacex do this instead of tesla? its out of spacex's domain even with xAI.

>>16916651
Neither man nor machine is capable of surviving the prevailing conditions of the Venusian surface. There is no way to fix that with existing technologies.

A source recently told Ars that two NASA astronauts, Woody Hoburg and Jessica Wittner, have begun training for a potential “Starliner-2” mission that could take flight during the first half of next year, should the uncrewed test flight in 2026 go well.

"Hoburg Memorial Middle School"

Mars is the reddit planet. Venus is for real chads and contrarians and explorers with faith of the heart.

>>16916660
Who do you have to piss off to be slated to a starshit death flight

>>16916660
I've met Woody. cool dude.

Boeing Starliner: 3 flights, thrusters failed on every flight, 18 total thruster failures.

>HOLD
yeah im out

>>16916660
They're goners

its over

>>16916671
Why did NASA do this?

>>16916660
I've met Woody. told me he had gay sex with a /sfg/ anon so I put him on this starshit death flight

So when are Boeing employees going to be held accountable for attempted manslaughter?

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Ayylmao

>>16916683
anything to get attention off the epstein files

CLOCK IS RUNNING!

ARM

>>16916683
I am literally never voting again ever in my life I am so tired of the circus. And we don’t even have bread…

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>>16916659
Most of the metals tested in the study I took this graph from retained more than 80% of their strength at the surface temperatures of Venus. Copper, bronze, and stainless steel aren't typically made structurally integral materials anyway. A material 80% as strong as structural steel can't be used to build anything?

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mnGeNAompvJX
starlink

>>16916688
I bet you haven't gone a day without eating in your life you bitchy faggot

>>16916689
You need more than an inert chunk of metal to do anything of value.

liftoff

>>16916657
Well if it's not just a bribe or money laundering disguised as graft, I'd say it's because SpaceX has access to an entire network of orbital satellites which can be used to maintain communications with and transmit nav data from drone swarms, and Tesla does not.

Sounds like they might think fiber optic tethers is a meme, because they want to move away from individual meat operators towards literally skynet.

>>16916689
Electronics don't work at that temperature

another one

>>16916698
>>16916694
Man kind made it quite far without modern computers computers. Vostok-1, the Rocket that made the first man commit space flight, had an entirely mechanical clockwork computer.
This is, of course, ignoring man kinds long-standing ability to build buildings where it is one temperature on the inside but a different temperature on the outside.

>>16916707
The degree of heat rejection and the temperature differential being asked for is an order of magnitude beyond anything requested before.

>>16916683
Anything to get attention off the war in Iran

>>16916713
There is no war in Iran. Yet.

>>16916483
saucerino?

>>16916713
Getting attention away from Iran would mean not talking about it. He talks about, and even posts about it everyday. You're not smart.

>>16916716
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/nasa-report-with-redactions-021926.pdf

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Is it possible?
Will Orion actually complete a crewed mission this year?
And before Starliner?

>>16916711
No that's wrong. We maintain large heated rooms at thousands of degrees surronded by an atmosphere that is less than the 100°C. Why would we be unable to do the opposite? Why is it possible to insulate a hot room from a relatively cold planet but not a cold room from a hot planet.
Are you a material scientist do you know something I don't about insulators?

give me an S!

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>>16916659
>There is no way to fix that with existing technologies.

>>16916723
I see Jesus

>>16916720
Heat only flows from hot to cold. The process for getting around that involves adding more heat to the system which also needs to be rejected, and must be hotter than the environment it's being rejected into. Making a hot box is trivial. Making a cold box is not.

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>>16916718
>If you weren’t aligned with the desired outcome, your input was filtered out or dismissed

>>16916720
you can insulate the hot room from the outside colder area somewhat, but it will still lose heat, but that can be fixed by heating it up a bit

in the opposite case you would have to refrigerate the cold room as heat would slowly seep in but the problem here are the temperature differences
it should be possible in principle, but it would require massive amounts of power and you would have to create that power somewhere outside the cold room because otherwise it would just heat it up
perhaps you could have some kind of power plant that works in thousands of degrees of ambient temperature but idk, basically everything melts, so you would probably have to bring power through a wire from the colder upper atmosphere where you could have a power plant

probably not impossible but what you suggest is not something that has been done ever

speaking of the WB57, how is it doing?

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>>16916727
>>16916720
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_4eccee8e-ad7e-4609-9b59-080cb022c2ab

>>16916731
I HATE HOW AI WRITES GOD FUCKING DAMN

>>16916725
I am well aware that heating is easier than cooling. The question was if thermal insulators work the same for cold box in hot land and hot box in cold land, which I'm 99% certain they do. Then it's easy to just bring more cold air to the cold box, Venus has two surfaces, at the other surface (the type Sol, Juipiter, and Saturn have) it's only a little hotter than Earth is.
>>16916727
Why not bring new air to the insulated container? Don't tell me large-scale air circulation has never been done because humans make CO2 from oxygen it would be needed on Mars, too.
Also, nuclear reactors work this way, cooling by bringing new cold water and "throwing out" "used" hot water. Water is less fluid than either Earth or Venus atmosphere.

>>16916731
>This is essentially a nuclear-powered, actively cooled Venus habitat module—doable on paper with today's materials, just very heavy and expensive. Concepts like this appear in NASA Venus lander/power papers (e.g., Stirling duplex systems). Scaling up or optimizing insulation/COP would make it more practical. If you specify a different room size or power source preference, I can refine the numbers!

>>16916734
bring it from where?
I think you might be misunderstanding some basics

>>16916736
The wonderful thing about having a real atmosphere (yes I'm well aware Mars technically has one) is passive flight, the upside to having an atmospheric pressure of 93 bar is flight becomes trivial.
The cold air comes from the "boats" where everything but raw resources come from.

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>>16916740
we literally already fly stuff on mars

>>16916744
A helicopter is not passive flight. Nothing floats on Mars.

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>>16916747
oh, you mean lighter than air. I figured you meant gliders which is also retarded.
you know there's a reason we've all but abandoned lighter than air flight.

>>16916747
Grok, is she right?

No way! Hot air balloons, specifically solar-heated Montgolfieres, are a promising, low-cost technology for Martian exploration, allowing for long-distance aerial imaging, atmospheric measurements, and sampling of diverse terrains. Due to the thin atmosphere, they must be large, lightweight, and utilize sun-heated air for buoyancy, often requiring specialized, robust deployment systems.

>>16916753
You mean on Earth where we live? Yeah we've abandoned lighter than air travel here. 1 air on Venus is 40 Earth airs.

Anyone who doesn't believe in balloon society can't be my friend. They have no faith in human ingenuity and have no whimsy in their hearts.

Countdown started again

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wouldn't be funny if something malfunctioned and the thing went ahead an launched?

>>16916761
it would require several malfunctions and physical work done to the boosters

>>16916762
so you're telling me there's a chance?

>>16916763
What does this look like, a Chinese space startup

>>16916689
What I'm learning from this graph is that we should be making more spacecraft out of wrought iron

>>16916780
???

>>16916720
Because we can easily generate heat which is then trapped by the insulation
We can't easily generate cold
This is also why lava tubes on venus are no escape from the heat

SpaceX/Musk vindicated again. They told you guys it was all politics at the highest level

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>>16916567

>>16916688
I feel ya
>>16916691
8 days is plenty enough to hurt

If FTL travel was real why wouldn't we be enslaved or dead. I don't know why I would believe somebody who buys children for sex to be honest

>>16916786
It's not much cold required... but what am I talking about balloons can't lower and lift things, balloons on Mars are about the height of balloon to mass lifted. If Balloons aren't practical for lifting a 3,000 cubic foot box on Mars it litteraly can't be done.

>>16916803
>Rick Wilson
>Lincoln Project

no

>>16916811
You definitely could make it work somehow. Maybe good insulation, and a balloon filled with phase change material that will evaporate after a while and lift the prob back into the temperate zone to cool off

so what was the official result of the sls test? are we gaan soon or not?

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>>16916805
What makes you think you're not enslaved right now, little mon-keigh?

>>16916819
Aced it, which is why the thread is so quiet right now.

https://www.nasa.gov/blogs/missions/2026/02/19/nasa-begins-artemis-ii-launch-pad-ops-after-successful-fuel-test/

>okay we're going to test Starship by launching it and blowing it up in the sky
>launch window is 3:35 AM
Someone explain this shit to me, why would launch windows even matter when you're destroying it anyways?

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>>16916830
Tradition

>>16916826
>As part of a Golden Age of innovation and exploration, Artemis will pave the way for new U.S. crewed missions on the lunar surface in preparation to send the first astronauts to Mars.
soon

>>16916830
Because actual planes flying around the airspace with passengers?

>>16916818
Mining outposts inevitably require logistics, if we are talking full scale colonies that exist to do more than just mine. Be it boats, trains or even trucks, it's just impossible that all the resources you want and need are going to be all clumped together. Under your colony. Just constant Balloon convoys taking cooled air down and resources back up.

>>16916837
Masses of ice would be a better coolant than air. Thick insulation, and a chunk of ice slowly melting. Then before it melts away, your balloon activates to lift you back into the upper atmosphere. This could all become routine.

>>16916831
I'm imagining this clip at .5 speed with that piano version of where is my mind and it's le cinéma

>>16916805
If FTL was real the aliens would have been here forever

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Exoplanet scientist murdered

>>16916858
>This allowed scientists to being mapping the temperature and chemical composition of distant worlds
>pioneered
Exoplanet scientists should die.

>>16916726
someone post that "how to talk to the conspiracy theorist in your life" thing I don't have memes on this computer

>>16916860
>He could guess the temperature of distant planets
>He knew about the aliens, so he had to die
Why do we allow this to take up millions of my tax dollars?

>>16916858
Why is two paragraphs repeated?

>>16916862
Because even his obituary needs to be approximation

>>16916858
hmm and that MIT fusion scientist was gunned down not too long ago too. probably just a coincidence though.

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>>16916866
It's always a gay lover, that's also the theory for the MIT guy

>>16916862
For emphasis

>>16916858
NA moment.

>Guy who might invent Fusion
>Guy who thinks he can measure the temperature of planets we don't know actually exist
Yeah these are equivalent

>>16916882
MANY SUCH CASES
SAD!
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/university-of-pittsburgh-professor-killed

>>16916898
Many are saying this.

Why didn't they kill the guy who cured pancreatic cancer?

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Ground clutter starting to be implemented in KSA

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>>16916914
And IVA demo...

>>16916483
Couldn’t let Elon be the hero. Liberals will let astronauts roast to death before they let him get a win. Seething.zip

>>16916530
I think you need to re-up your booster shot

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Show's over, folks.
There are no aliens, and we're never leaving this solar system.

>>16916994
The only reason I'm not dismissing this outright is the apparent existence of exotic propulsion systems that would make the ongoing development of conventional aircraft and ships completely pointless if we had them, and our budget is not infinite enough just to build conventional systems for a masquerade. This still leaves a lot of difficult questions, like "of all the hellholes of the galaxy, why would they choose to come here without trying to make themselves known?"

>>16917006
Sentient life might be quite rare. They might find us very interesting for that reason.
Also, our access to nuclear weapons depended on the Shinkolobwe mine in the Congo. Without that, the Manhattan Project might never have gotten off the ground. It's a very unusual deposit, and it could be almost unique in the galaxy in combination with a native sentient race.

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Xenogfs for all true american patriots

>>16917017
We are not your xenos pets, mon-keigh.

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>>16916660
So, assuming all goes well from now on (lmao), Boeing will have to do 5 test flights of this shitbucket before operational missions.

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>>16916994
why are you posting some literal who

>>16916994
Imagine being so fucking Chad. 6 Gorillion galaxies and just “Nope. Fake and Gay. No ayys” lul

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KSA terrain lined up with an Apollo landing site.

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>>16917026
I don't know why he posted this random guy, probably politics, but this random guy is right. FTL isn't real. Trump is either doing a distraction play or negotiating with terrorists who will never be satisfied with the truth.

>>16917067
I think the jury is still out. I think FTL propulsion has been ruled out. Even if you did have a MacGuffin, you’d fly into a fucking rock or rogue planet or space peanut. Before even thinking about radiation. Might very well be some exotic stuff that allows you to go from A-B instantly. Let’s give it 50 more years before we close the book on that.

>>16916994
>nooo we can't bend spacetime and ride on it to achieve FTL
These people are stuck with the idea that the Standard Model of physics is the ONLY physics in the Universe.

>>16917081
Yeah I suppose wizards could be real, and they could also use magic to instantly teleport us anywhere. I mean have you checked the entire universe?

>>16917106
By God?

>>16917106
source?

>NASA completes second Artemis 2 fueling test
We're close to figuring out why the hydrogen is leaking.

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spehs?

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>>16917115
spehs

>>16916631
>>16916634
I'm wish Starbase would eventually be closed to the public. If they want to launch multiple ships a week from the site, they can't have it swamped with tourists. Have a tour bus bring in paying people instead.

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>>16916914
>>16916915
I hope KSA is multi-thread optimized. I want to see threadrippers running that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rayK1pwhzEs
>NASA's Artemis II Fueling Test News Conference (Feb. 20, 2026)

>>16916928
Elon is a liberal.

>>16916719
How much money did SpaceX spend on Dragon by the time it was human-rated?

>>16917142
like 2b? ass-number

>>16917130
They would not have built / are building so many employee residences there if they intended to evacuate all the time.
Its a R&D site for now, but sure, they do intend to scale this site to mass launches. By then they want the safety factor to have the evacuation boundary at the limit of the residentially built environment, the edge of the build site and town. Fuck this needing to evacuate 5 miles, its excessive. South Padre isn't leaving for any launch, so the village of Starbase can stay occupied too. Only the beach is closed with launch activity

>>16917073
>you’d fly into a space peanut
That's what the deflector dish is for

>>16916994
Minister grifter who denies Evolution lecturing you on Science.

Thanks.

>>16917186
if humans are made of starstuff then why are there still stars around??? huh?????

>>16917186
>muh evolution

You’ve empirically observed speciation occurring? You’ve watched an animal turn from one species to another? That’s amazing. That’d be the first time it was ever observed/recorded. You know, as is typically required when you do scientific studies and experiments on phenomena, you first observe and record it. You should write a paper given your singular and unique experiences, though it might hurt in terms of validity if you can’t find anyone else who isn’t also able to empirically observe species turning into new species.

>>16917192
lmao we got a live one here fellas

>>16917014
Did you hear that on a podcast and believed it? Because Canadian uranium mines are also high assay and -- as always -- if the price is right even low grade ores are profitable.

I simply don't believe in stellar evolution. Nobody has ever observed a yellow star "grow" into a red giant.

>muh accretion

You’ve empirically observed a protoplanetary disk turn into a planetary system? You’ve watched rocks turn from rubble to celestial bodies? That’s amazing. That’d be the first time it was ever observed/recorded. You know, as is typically required when you do scientific studies and experiments on phenomena, you first observe and record it. You should write a paper given your singular and unique experiences, though it might hurt in terms of validity if you can’t find anyone else who isn’t also able to empirically observe planetesimals turning into new planets.

The planets were created in their current forms six thousand years ago.

>>16917201
then Muhammed split the moon in half; what a jerk

>>16917192
Science board
Denies Science is real because it conflicts with his magic book.

You are in the wrong place.

>>16917203
hey pal, I use a single-scroll pentateuch, not a heathen bound b*ok

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https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2024629096471548025

Is the vacuum of Space supposed to be the depths and the firmament the atmosphere? What are the pillars?
Why did God include a passage in his word that would be wrongly interpreted for centuries after it was written?

>>16917201
Everybody knows there is a lot of quantitative evidence in the half-life estimation of terrestrial zircon crystals to suggest that the planets are way older than simple mathematical creation estimations, unless half-lives behaved way different than they do know like 2,000 years ago but it’s obvious this is unlikely

>>16917197
True nobody has ever observed a yellow star in the first place.

>>16917210
>vacuum
lmao
this dude doesn't know about ether. what do you think rocket exhaust pushes against?

>>16917211
...or God created the planet to appear as though they were half way through a natural process, to decive the weak and test your faith.

>>16917216
Ether is a solid that only serves to transmit light. You can't feel it or push against it.

>>16917217
can I drop my lowest faith test exam score at the end of the semester? or supplement one with the average of my quiz scores? thanks prof

>>16917026
Justin earned his undergraduate at Mississippi State University (1995) and then a Master of Divinity and Master of Theology (2000, 2002) Senior Pastor, Calvary and frog gigging.

How nice for him.

Make phlogiston great again

>>16917217
God wouldn't play stupid tricks like that.

>>16917210
The bible’s purpose isn’t to offer scientific truths, why are you using it as such? It’s salvation poetry and genealogy and foreshadowing and ultimately the good news of Jesus. Who, by the way, made the planets and space billions of years ago (for humans to control one day)
>>16917217
Why would He go out of his way to deceive me, that is stupid. To suggest God lies or deceives is incorrect.

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VELIKOVSKY WAS RIGGHTTTT

>>16917227
Isn't that the one where everything is ice? That's boring.

The Archdiocese of the Moon. Going to have a cool coat of arms

>>16917224
He totally would, he's incorrigible and has a weird sense of humor.

>>16917217
that would be pretty gay

>>16917203
>denies science is real

Science relies on empirical observation and recording of phenomena which is then tested and experimented

Phenomena which are never empirically observed/recorded and are instead just insisted as being obvious fact based off of a narrative when they can’t in fact be observed/recorded are definitionally non-empirical and thus non scientific. If you believe otherwise you are free to point to what should be a wide swathe of empirically observed and recorded examples of species becoming other species via macroevolutionary change. If you cannot do this you automatically concede. No book is magic and animals are not “magic” either.

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for me, it's the Tychonic system

>>16917217
>test your faith.
Said the bishop to the choirboy.

>>16917233
wow you really are a idiot aren't you? I almost feel sorry not giving enough of a shit to actually reply seriously.
have a nice day, monkey-man

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>>16917233
preach it brother, after all /sfg/ is a Lysenkoism/Lamarckism general.
we've all been lied to

>>16917237
Yup, that’s what happens when your internal sense of logic/truth (imago dei) conflicts with the narrative you’ve been indoctrinated to accept when the two conflict (ie you know what defines one concept you hold dear, yet you accept a complete obliteration of that definition when another concept you’ve been really trained to swallow whole requires it). Fascinating. Now this is an observation on the nature of human behavior.

>>16917241
lol

>>16917241
>indoctrinated to accept
ok so, evolution is a lie. anything else? or is that it?
do you have a list of other things I've been indoctrinated to believe?
plate tectonics or something?

Thanks,

Anon

>>16917233
Here's the arbitrary criteria you must meet. However, I will refuse to apply the same criteria to my dinosaurs lived with cavemen fringe religion.

>>16917241
this seems like very sophisticated projection
you seriously think the only way to deduce that evolution makes sense is to directly observe speciation empirically?

almost nothing in science is really based on direct empirical observation
many things are not observable directly even in principle by humans (such as subatomic particles transforming into other particles)

if someone doesn't know about Na+/H+ antiporters they have absolutely zero fucking authority to hand wave about evolution and be a smug retard.
It's basically the equivalent of a flerfer not even knowing about any Apollo missions besides 11.

lol

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>no starship flights has reduced /sfg/ to talking about biology with a YEC
ohoogogogohohhohoho

>>16917207
seems inefficient tbdesu

Oof. Looks like somebody struck a nerve. Overweight nerds get really upset when you point out that their interpretation of a bunch of old bones in mud getting put together to resemble giant dragon chickens is retarded, and that having that presented to them as fact when they were small children has just given them an emotional attachment to the idea.

Imagine you do this with ghosts.
>Ghosts are hecking real you fucking chud okay!?
>okay, where are they? Can you observe them?
>i-it’s happened plenty! Like this haunted house where someone said the door moved on its own!
>okay, a ghost is one way to interpret how that observation may have occurred. Couldn’t it feasibly have been something else though?
>no there’s like hecking teams with electric ghost detection technology!
>Many of those are proven hoaxes and frauds, you know
>REEE ACCEPT THE SCIENCE

Suddenly you replace ghost with dinosaur lizard and tiktaalik growing fish legs and a cock so he could fuck on land 400 gorillion years ago when no one would ever be able to actually see or know it and every smug “intellectual” of 110 IQ loses their minds. Really interesting social discourse at play there.

>>16917253
you are a retard! congrats!

>>16917253
you know, I really don't think you even know what evolution *is*.
I think your retarded YEC parents turned you into a retarded YEC and as a result your brain didn't bother registering what you were (hopefully) taught in 10th grade bio.

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Pygmaclypeatus is cute <3

I just squint and see the obvious proliferation of species and their interrelatedness intuitively. I don't even know what protein sequences are.

>>16917257
Indeed. Being as all things were created through the Logos (logic), all of creation is interrelated and a personal reflection on some level of the creator, and indeed humans being made in His image have the same form of rational logic and order which allows them an intuitive understanding of this order and logic which created them and all the things surrounding them. A truly beautiful tapestry. I’d imagine at least some high tier people on here subscribe to Russian cosmism given the subject matter.

>>16917259
Logos? the tangerine dream album?

>Russian cosmism
that sounds incredibly gay.
can you like, leave and never come back?

>>16917257
assuming hereditary genes + mutation affecting those genes and differing environmental pressures then evolution is obvious
you would have to make a lot of assumptions for evolution not to happen

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there are only two Nautiloid genera left :(

ok I should stop spamming pseudoreplies to this dude, anyways HEY SPACEFLIGHT NEWS LOOK, REMEMBER DREAM CHASER? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG22EOLv9j0

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>25 flights in 2025

>>16917268
JP Aerospace is still doing stuff with their balloon "ascender" idea, last I checked.
ARCA status? Spinlaunch status? Astra status?

>>16917271
LongShot Space is doing shitty little yt videos about their grand idea as of late

>>16916994
Watch UFO Hunters on History Channel. If you don't believe in aliens, you will shit your ass fucker

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>>16917203
Explain this titwad

>>16917207
So why aren't we colonizing the sun?

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>>16917281
>opens article
lel

>>16917284
Ain't reading all that

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>wake up
>check sfg
>tons of posts
>oh something good must've happened
>its all schizo posting
we need more launches

>>16917287
good morning anon

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>https://x.com/coastal8049/status/2024746387301343534?s=20
>In January @russianforces
pointed out odd behaviour from the Russian ELS/TUNDRA satellite early warning system. The co-ordinated westward drift in apogee longitude appears to have ended in a co-ordinated manner.

What are the Russians up to? Also why when I look at the semi major of these satellites it seems to naturally increase and then maneuver to go down?

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>>16917290

>>16917287
We need less launches and more substantial launches. I don't care about infrastructure for Earth in /sfg/

Ever hear the tale of the Tortoise and the Hare? SpaceX is the hare, quick, active, but easily distracted by Mars and Al. Blue Origin is the tortoise, slow but methodical, dead set on the main goal, The Moon. @JeffBezos clearly implies here that they will beat SpaceX to The Moon.

>>16917282
28g on the surface.
That's really too much so it's a no.
Lots of light though.

>>16917287
you wake up at noon???

>>16917299
I wake up at 1pm

>>16917299
He lives on the moon

NET March 6

>>16917192
This has actually been observed twice. You just won't look it up because you don't really want to know because you're afraid it will conflict with your religious beliefs. Once you really start to understand you will know that science deals with the material universe and religion deals with the immaterial. There is no conflict to be had

>>16917299
I wake up at noon, but get out of bed at 1.

>>16917305
will starship stack before it

I get out of bed at noon, but I wake up at 1pm

>>16917234
okay, why exactly doesn't this make sense?

I dont sleep. No really, I dont

>>16917317
you would do well on the sun colony

>>16917313
starship isnt even built yet

>>16917353
Are they still not done?

>>16917378
i think they recently finished testing and rolled it back into assembly. it should be soonish. starshit development is a bit confusing to follow

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last update i've seen

>>16917385
Why aren't they testing it yet?

>>16917400
its a good question... the ship is almost a year old but hasnt had any tests yet

>>16917404
months old*

V2 failures changed spacex

When next FartShit launch?

>>16917419
>"what changed you?"
>*points at V2*

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>>16917426
>V2 changed Spacex

The sirs at Boeing fuck everything they touch.

>>16917433
Kind of like a Midas touch but for fucking

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oh... so she got a boob job...

>>16917442
it's called gaining weight

>>16917442
her tits are almost bigger than elons now

>>16917442
My mom got a boob job.
Last year she removed them :(

>>16917268
Two years to plan a tow test....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCrATrk9mLc
new starbase vid

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https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/2024950505051742334