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>>16919256
when willl spaceflight stop being full of endless delays?
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>>16919258
Delays and disappointments are a feature, not a bug.
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>>16919256
Five more days of pointless chattering by people with little to no professional training in spaceflight or anything remotely connected to it.
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Zepplins are a sub-sub category of Balloons. But they are balloons.
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>>16919258
When we operate the SSTO vehicle for easy space access.
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I wish an alien would visit me and offer me to join him so I can stop being an Earther (derogatory)
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Space colonization will most likely increase future suffering. Life spreading to other planets means that the amount of suffering produced will increase exponentially, if life in the future is on average bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7nsv4n_Bgk
https://reducing-suffering.org/omelas-and-space-colonization/
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>>16919258
SLS is delayed because its an unproven system. Once a rocket gets ~10 launches there's no real reason to delay at least as far as the rocket is concerned. except a day or two for weather, but thats just a fact of life.
new projects like mars missions and things will keep being a launch window or two late just because each one is a completely novel project with a lot of moving parts.
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>>16919268
Life is a net good actually and it has been most times and most places in human history.
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>>16919271
>Life is a net good actually and it has been most times and most places in human history.
Prove it
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>>16919268
Only if brown people come up the well, if it's only whites (jews aren't white) There won't be increased suffering.
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>>16919273
You haven't killed yourself.
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>>16919268
>suffering is bad (I should never work out)
>life is net suffering (kill yourself NOW to end it please)
>the more total suffering there is the worse it is (whether or not an African child is starving right now is discernible to me and matters)
There are so many retarded premises in this one.
>>16919273
Follow through on your premises. Is the rest of your life net bad too?
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Cancel Gateway
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What’s the status report from Thunderf00t?
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>Mentioning an eceleb unprompted
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>>16919264
they are dirigibles
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>>16919268
>>16919273
>Fatalistic nihilism
By their own philosophy, the best argument to refute these guys is to kill them.
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>>16919294
I fucking love terrestrial planets so much it’s unreal. Even Mercury has a geological story to tell
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>>16919302
I wish we'd land something on mercury
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>>16919302
Well gas giants aren't that great that is true
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>>16919305
BepiColombo was supposed to have a lander but they canceled it.

>After arriving on Mercury’s surface during ESA’s BepiColombo mission, this lander is expected to deploy instruments with a micro-rover (left) and to penetrate the surface with a ‘mole’ (below).
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2001/11/BepiColombo_s_lander
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now that its confirmed that spacex is polluting the atmosphere with toxic particles, can we finally enforce mandatory recycling of manmade space objects? if you want to bring them back to earth then they need to be brought back for recycling. space companies need to be forced to pay the recycle companies too.
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>Aluminum
>Toxic
Kill this man
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>>16919298
Dirigible _______s
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>>16919312
Dirigible not-balloon-s
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>>16919315
They are called that, though. Dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive, so the fact that they are called [Adj.] balloons makes them, balloons.
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>>16919319
>>16919315
My logic is fallacious, Red Pandas exist, Red Pandas are not Pandas, I would never accept people trying to convince me they are.
Zepplins are not Balloons, Submarines are not Balloons.
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ELON MUSK SHOT IN AUSTIN TX
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>>16919344
He posted on X literally ten seconds ago. He's fine.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/13/elon-musk-xai-datacenters-air-pollution-mississippi

The Monster!
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>>16919344
WHO DID HE SHOOT
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>>16919268
suffering is part of life
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026053135270334515
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>>16919366
Quit making up people to force me to agree with Musk
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>>16919366
>no argument, no refutation
>just *le heckin groan*

Endless BTFOing of musky continues
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>>16919268
Why should anyone interested in space colonization listen to para-religious arguments about some non-existent magical value of suffering?
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You guys aren't interested in Space Colonization, it's all "Mars, Mars and Mars" with you faggots
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>>16919378
They’re in a delusional cult anon, go easy on them.
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>>16919378
Artificial colonies are fine too
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>>16919268
Pearce's whole thing is that we need to genetically engineer humans and animals to only feel "gradients of bliss". He's also an Elon reply guy lel.
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>>16919381
Shit's actually retarded where does the sruff come from?
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>>16919378
thats wrong. we are glad to have moon bases and other colonies, but mars is our best prospect and should not be neglected.
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>>16919378
wrong, there are some titan posters in here, as well as a ceres guy, couple of venusfags, a handful of callisto enjoyers, and some schizo that wants to disassemble mercury
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>>16919383
Put rock in Lagrange point
Drill rock
Make shit with the drilled rock
Build shit on the hollowed rock with the shit you drilled from the rock
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Where does the carbon exosphere come from if there is no Carbon?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Lw5LBCXYI
>Starbase Pad 2 Flooded! | Starship Update
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>>16919396
My assumption without googling is that carbon is highly volatile but heavy enough to stick around [in a tenuous atmosphere], and abundant enough in the solar system to be accounted for with constant micrometeorite impacts and space weathering.
The more fun answer is that there are secret semi-surficial deposits we haven't found yet and that there is enough native residual carbon to make methane ISRU a possibility. Though I bet even if that WERE the case it would be a limited resource and would require geological exploration and deposit source area consumption
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>>16919411
>carbon is highly volatile
That doesn't sound right at all
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>farmers are starting to refuse to sell their land to create more data centers
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/im-not-for-sale-farmers-refuse-to-take-millions-in-data-center-deals

just more evidence that data centers in space will become the most economically viable way of doing things
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>>16919416
But muh radiators
muh cooling
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>>16919416
to be fair a lot of american farmland is absurdly productive
like half of nevada is federal wasteland we should just build the datacenters there
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>>16919416
eminent domain will solve this
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>>16919421
You can charge me extra for electricity to make a machine that makes it impossible to tell reality from fiction, becuase we don't have any water for the machine to steal.
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>>16919421
Nevada is so dry it almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
No water for cooling, and no convenient radiative cooling into deep space.
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just build the data center under the farm
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>>16919387
>and some schizo that wants to disassemble mercury
we are legion
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>>16919424
Alaska then. Plenty of water, space, and it's cold to boot
Surely setting up a nuclear reactor and datacenter in the boonies near anchorage would be easier than hurr just put it all in spess
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>>16919414
Read a book then idk what to tell you
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>>16919429
You could start by telling me whether or not carbon is highly volatile.
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Highly violotiale will mean different things to different fields of science. The fact that carbon doesn't literally explode when exposed to air or water means something, if Carbon is "highly violotile," what do you call potassium "super violotile"?
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>>16919432
It is believed that when the Moon formed, with an object slamming in to Earth and a debris ring then coalescing into a ball of melt, that yes Carbon was very volatile in that regime and that explains why the Moon is extremely carbon hyper-deficient... but otherwise maintains almost the exact same fingerprint refractory mineral ratios as terrestrial Earth rocks with less volatile minerals that can survive melts such as plag feldspar and olivine and pyroxine with oxygen atoms
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>>16919422
but think of the beetles, and the plovers
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>>16919434
The 4th most common element (Fe) in Earth's crust is entirely missing on the Lunar surface, Iron doesn't become volotile at the same regimes carbon does.
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>>16919265
This has some serious Fireball XL-5 vibes.
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>>16919437
Ironically it seems like there's plenty of iron on the moon
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>>16919437
From what I remember the explanation for a lack of iron oxide minerals has more to do with the geophysicists believing it has to do with Theia's mantle material (heavy iron) being retained deep within Earth's lower mantle while Theia's upper mantle and crust (way less iron) is what took the glancing blow and was ejected into orbit to form the Moon. I don't know the geochemical explanation off the top of my head, been a long time since I have thought about this I must admit
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>>16919424
>>16919428
You always have the atmosphere in nevada so you can make a giant heatsink
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Those radiators don't seem to be working so well.
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>>16919446
naca airfoil ears
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>>16919433
How can you have multiple instances of the correct spelling of volatile in front of you and still miss the mark that hard?
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>>16919448
This is a judge-free zone
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>>16919449
stenographer, strike this from the record
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>>16919299
>>16919281
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>>16919273
life is so good I want to take it from other people
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I don't feel like waiting for the 300 second cooldown so hello /sfg/

Do you think chemistry class is nerfed to keep people from making drugs and blowing shit up? They have all sorts of machinist classes in addition to theoretical mechanics classes but no one offers practical laboratory classes you could use to put what they teach in chemistry to too much use.
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>>16919449
I actually want to know
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>>16919459
no? you need at least organic chemistry to learn how to do it. you can learn it at a community college, and high schoolers can attend community college.
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>>16919461
Yeah, I am in those classes right now and I quite like it, but I feel like the gap between language used at the hardware store and class is wider than the gap between my my physics based engineering classes.
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>>16919463
https://www.youtube.com/@duganashley1337/videos
okay, now the question is only of theoretical interest
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You don't need "radiators"
Heat naturally conducts
MIGHT need some heat pumping to get it away from the chips
or just plenty of aluminum/copper/whatever
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This is what Elon wants to do with "rail guns" on the Moon. Despicable
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>>16919471
but that's based?
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>>16919474
Based on what?
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>>16919471
Wtf fuck mars let's go to the Moon and do this now
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>>16919471
scary to think about
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Concentrate the heat into rods until they are molten, then launch them directly at earth.
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>>16919471
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>>16919471
>Despicable
You misspelled "Good, right, and necessary"
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Earthers could be here
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>>16919258
>spoils your whole lunar program
heh, nothin' personal
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>>16919387
I'm a titan chad and proud of it
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Any word on if NASA even has the tooling for the ICPS?
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nothing is happening
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>>16919265
things you'll never see
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with V3 we'll finally make it orbit on flight 12
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>>16919263
to be honest, most weeks at JPL are exactly the same
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>>16919507
What even is the latest on block 2
The new SRBs exploded on the test stand
The EUS doesn't exist
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>>16919263
Bro half the shit we could be posting about is ITAR and the other half is EAR
The space industry is a very, very small place on top of that
Shitposting is all we're legally allowed to do
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>>16919428
>lets ruin one of the most beautiful places on earth to build ai datacenters so pajeets can put celebrities in bikinis on twitter
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>>16919533
NET Flight 13. Flight 12 will be a validation test of the previous flight profile.
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>>16919264
>>16919331
Incorrect. Of course, it is considered a spaceplane
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LAUNCH SOME FUKKEN STICKS
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>>16919558
Falcon 9 with Starlink in 13 hours and 30 minutes.
Falcon 9 with Starlink on Wednesday.
Electron on a suborbital flight on Wednesday.
Falcon 9 with Starlink on Friday.
Firefly Alpha on Friday.
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>>16919459
We made thermite in my community college chemistry class.
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>>16919538
There ain't gonna be a block 2.
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>Mach 0-3 normal ramjet usage or potential rocket boost
>Mach 3-5 begin alkali seeding, air beginning ionization
>magnetohydrodynamic generator turns on
>kinetic energy of the incoming ionized hypersonic air is immediately converted to electrical energy through interaction with a transverse magnetic field via the Hall Effect
>energy is stored for supercooling of the accelerator saddle magnets + other magnetic systems in SMES/supercapacitors/superconducting flywheel(s)
>allows for creation of a plasma bubble to reduce drag
>plasma field can also be used to steer/bounce off of atmosphere
>plasma firld creates a virtual cowl allowing for ideal airflow and “shock on lip” condition
>Mach 5-8 natural air ionization dominant
>massive energy extraction
>MHD accelerator gains energy proportional to increase in speed running in tandem with the MHD generator
>mach 20+ flight and space access
>plasma braking for reentry

Id say why havent they done this yet but they already have and have for decades now
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>>16919581
surfing the ionosphere in that way might actually work
but I'd test it from the other end first, send up a skimmer with such an ion drive, turn it on and see if it can keep altitude
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>>16919387
>some schizo that wants to disassemble mercury
Mercury is literally a massive chunk of high quality building materials in exactly the right spot to make best use of it, I don't blame the guy.
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we'll just get the moon to trade places with mars
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>>16919366
lack of magnetic field is the primary issue and a big deal but somehow midwits like to pretend magnetosphere is unnecessary even though we'd all die without it.
>bro dude, it's so simple you just like, launch a rocket from this floating ball and like land on that other red ball, if we did that on the moon why can't we do mars lol
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>>16919599
but then the tides would be taller. You could put it further away I guess, wouldn't change the period too much.
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>>16919540
involuntary chuckle
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>>16919603
>lack of magnetic field is the primary issue
What difference would that make?
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>>16919552
technically, everything is a spaceplane, because it all takes up space on this plane of existence.
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is it really a plane if its 4D?
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>>16919632
i don't know if it's plane, but it certainly isn't boring.
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>>16919471
imagine the Dv calcs
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>>16919471
One of the best scenes in Stargate, hands down.
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>>16919258
when NASA collapses so only ESA and JAXA are relevant
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>>16919603
Oh no! 0.0000028 sieverts an hour!?
Humanity is doomed!
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>>16919646
LOL
Elon dragging humanity to water and making it drink whether it wants to or not.
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>>16919662
'tis but a flesh wound
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If you inhale water you drown, drowning is not drinking.
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>>16919667
just a skill issue
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>>16919667
I'll keep clapping your balls with these bricks until you do it right.
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>>16919666
20.5 Earth years. Assuming the human body doesn't heal itself in any way and perfectly retains radiation damage. The expected death rate of taking 5 sieverts in a single acute does is 50%. At the rate of irradiation received on the Martian surface, it would take 20.5 years to have a 50% chance of killing you, assuming humans are perfect black bodies.
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>>16919672
lets hope that no black bodies, perfect or otherwise, make it to the martian surface
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Why are all of NASA's previous rockets not considered commercial, when it was all designed and built by external companies? The Saturn V is as much Boeing as is SLS.
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>>16919674
Bespoke vs built by a company that operates them themselves.
Nobody launched Saturn V but NASA.
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>>16919676
NA launched the Saturn V using NASA facilities
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>At Colorado space firms, Hegseth casts Pentagon bureaucracy as the enemy
Hegseth contrasts “builders” with Beltway primes as administration leans into procurement overhaul
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>>16919677
National Aeronautics?
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>>16919677
Tell us more about all the Saturn V launches Boeing sold to third party customers or launched for themselves.
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>>16919679
North American Aviation
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>>16919681
Nice try retard that would be NAA, you can't trick me.
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>>16919683
fuck, you got me
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Uranus has more real moons than Juipiter
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>>16919686
>this guy thinks he can define what a real moon is
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>>16919690
Yes
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>>16919691
>>16919690
In fact, I could do a substantially better job than the IAU at defining all the things and how they are different from them.
I definitely wouldn't define Mercury as not a planet and then ignore my own definition.
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>>16919692
write a letter or something
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The School of Space Exploration was unveiled in Beijing, aiming to provide talent for deep-space exploration and space science. The school will build a curriculum covering 14 first-level disciplines/major categories, including aerospace science and technology and planetary science. In addition to the existing 97 courses, 22 new core courses will be added, covering directions such as interstellar dynamics and propulsion principles, interstellar travel, environment perception and utilization, planetary dynamics and habitability, and interstellar sociology and governance.
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>>16919645
If NASA collapsed they would become terrestrial science agencies
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>>16919477
Based on the principle of TED
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>>16919540
>Add two square miles of data centers in Alaska
>the other 665,382 square miles of Alaska are suddenly ruined for some reason
??????????????
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>>16919704
If only someone would do this in america beside musk
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>>16919708
those things are very noisy btw
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Europa is geologically active.
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>>16919712
get back to me when its economically active
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>>16919713
Right now.
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>>16919714
you work there?
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>>16919715
No but the Europans do. They are decades ahead of us technologically, they will come to kidnap me and make me an exotic sex slave soon.
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>>16919717
your exotic huh?
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>>16919667
No it makes you suck water. Whether you drink it or breathe it is not my problem, libfuck
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>>16919720
No, exotic is a subjective term, so nothing can be exotic as a fact. I am probably not exotic to you, considering you speak English, meaning we most likely share a similar culture and are part of the same subspecies.
All humans are exotic to Europans, since we don't share any evolutionary history and therefore don't look much alike, down to the fact we don't have the same number of limbs.
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>>16919678
>Colorado space firms
>SNC
>LM
>ULA
>Whatever they're calling DigitalGlobe these days
>Ball/BAE
LockMart IS a beltway prime and ULA is their creature
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>>16919726
you're getting me all excited here
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>>16919672
>minor solar flare hits mars
>everyone dies
hurr durr manifest destiny or something
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>>16919742
dont be such a wimp
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>>16919742
just put some dirt on top of the habitats, its not a big deal man
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>>16919742
It'll be like a weather forecast, uhh we'll experience a solar flare in two hours, everybody get into the tunnels if you don't wish to die
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>>16919742
>minor solar flare hits mars
No I think Mars is a bit far away for that.
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You what rocky planet has a magnetosphere?
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>>16919758
Venus is a better teraforming candidate than Mars and its not even close, and it would take the same ammount of time despite this.
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>>16919769
How could you terraform venus?
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>>16919769
Terraforming is bad and gay. We will colonize the planets where they lie. We must build dirigible society.
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>>16919771
remove (most of the) atmosphere
as few solar shades would also be a good start
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>>16919774
>as
and
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>>16919774
>remove (most of the) atmosphere
How?
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Hey NTRfags.

They run on liquid hydrogen. They are heavy. They have solid cores made of uranium which is very heavy. You're talking roughly 10x the dry weight. They are very low thrust. You need shields between the engine and any cargo or crew. They have questionable longevity. Chemical engines will essentially run forever if they are well designed, but NTRs have issues with hydrogen erosion and melting their internals. They are radioactive *as hell* once you start running them. Anything you do with the stage once you start the engine has to take that into consideration. Basically they ruin the mass ratio in the rocket equation. The high isp is pretty much cancelled out by the reduction in mass ratio.
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Radiation is a meme, get over it.
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what if an astronaut with tourettes says the n word in space
are they immediately kicked out the nearest airlock? Or is the body to be recycled?
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Finally:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zojwKLlY_H8
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>>16919783
They are promoted
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>>16919776
big vacuum
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>>16919784
Are they ever gonna wrap this slop up?
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026331814135238866
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>>16919704
The inauguration ceremony was held at the Chinese Academy of Sciences memorial hall for the "Two Bombs, One Satellite" project on campus.
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>>16919783
NIGGER ME BAILEY
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>>16919793
and there it is, the final nail in the mars coffin
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It's not over.
It never began.
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>>16919813
not spaceflight.
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>>16919813
I’d much rather only elon can vote, that way we get a society overrun by millions of third world hindus.
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>>16919813
womens suffrage was a mistake
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>Chinese satellite company mizarvision has been publicly leaking US military movements in the Middle East ahead of a conflict with Iran
https://nitter.net/FaytuksNetwork/status/2026362629090861107#m

Isn't this what the space force is for? Why aren't they doing anything to protect the military from foreign spies?
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>>16919831
>Why aren't they stopping a camera from taking pictures
Hard to do I hear.
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>>16919832
blind them with lasers
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>>16919837
Then everyone's satellites get destroyed and nobody can have cameras
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>>16919831
What does the public leaking have to do with anything. Isn't part of the strategy to amass a strike force and make sure your target knows it's there. I'm sure Iran could obtain these from their Asiatic friends even if they weren't public.
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>>16919841
>What does the public leaking have to do with anything.
Well since it's a private company I imagine they're showing off for potential customers and investors.
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If Elon Musk is right, you will never be a real Mars colonist.
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>>16919844
Not Spaceflight.
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Road delay. I guess it will be a static fire because 4 weeks ago Elon Musk said 6 weeks.
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>Today, we put a spacecraft in orbit, and it stays there. The propulsion is either from the rocket that put it there or for station-keeping. Once it's in its raised orbit, it doesn't go anywhere else, except for maybe a small adjustment. We need to be able to maneuver well in an environment where we might be attacked, which is called "dynamic space operations." We need to move assets to safer places, replenish them, and support them. We don't have much of that capability yet, and China is working on threats in orbit every day. This environment is getting worse, and we need to catch up fast. I came to Blue Origin to work on this problem, as I've been concerned about it for a long time. We need to be able to cruise through space like a destroyer or corvette to patrol, surveil, and protect assets.
Tory reveals why he left ULA for Blue
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>>16919849
>On the human exploration side and the lunar side and the Mars side, we have several vested interests in the moon. The moon is a national security regime. There's a reason why China is going full boore to get there and it's not for the benefit of all mankind. It's because it has strategic value. It is the ultimate high ground and it is rich tremendously rich in resources and even just beyond the moon to the near earth objects um there are imagination defying quantities of rare earth metals uh precious metals helium 3 on the moon and on these asteroids that have just tremendous value and ultimately um have strategic value but also will literally change our human destiny.
The Moon is a national security priority.
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>>16919849
>Tory reveals why he left ULA for Blue
Because ULA is a sinking ship. There's no need for paragraphs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4Ki6TxRTs
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>>16919858
awful thumbnail
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https://x.com/xDaily/status/2026397062841893006
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>>16919776

Solar powered laser array.
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My fear is that the whole low earth orbit region will be so overly populated with satellites that it will tip over and capsize.
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>>16919831
The precedent was set in the era of Sputnik that overland flight is a peaceful and internationally permitted use of space.
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>>16919890
If space gets too heavy with satellites there is a real chance that it might fall down on us.
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>>16919893
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>>16919893
Could it fall on Guam, making it tip over? Get Elon Musk in here.
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>>16919778
NTR are lighter than chemical engines for a given delta V, the question is if you understand the subject enough to know why
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>>16919751
Martian Blowout when?
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>>16919706
Even the fucking warlords can into space nowadays
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>>16919905
and ever since then SM-3s have been swatting down iranian missiles in the Red Sea, though at a cost of $25m ea
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>>16919879
that seems slower than 5G/LTE
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>>16919831
Isn't it the air forces job to not park their planes out in the open in neat rows for everyone to see?
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>>16919914
Its 5G speed anywhere on the planet in Antartica, in Arctic, in Japan, in Cayman Islands, in Galapagos Island, etc.

150Mbps anywhere in the world with <20 ms latency from smartphone is a serious technical feat. 5G cellular towers only have range of ~1 mile. So if you're not within 1 mile, you're not getting 5G/LTE.
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Be honest. In 2012 you 100% thought that Musky would have planted boots on Martian soil at this point. Telling.
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>>16919922
>2012
No one took Elon seriously then; so no
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>self driving by 2018
>mars colony by 2018
>hyperloop across america by 2018
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>>16919905
>Ballistic rocket from Yemen
>Space
Pick one.
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>>16919924
>no one took him seriously then

And that’s before his abject repeated failures. Wowza
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>>16919879
>>16919914
That's faster than landline or fixed wireless internet in most of America.
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>>16919929
no it isn't
https://www.speedtest.net/global-index/united-states
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>>16919848
Static fire then stacc then launch
I love that despite the fact I live in DFW I'm always FUCKING TRAVELING DURING A STARSHIP LAUNCH
I ONLY GOT TO SEE IFT-2 IN PERSON ELON LAUNCH MORE STARSHIPS SO I CAN DRIVE DOWN AND SEE THEM
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>>16919934
I meant in terms of area not population. If you're in a large city or adjacent suburb you probably get decent speeds but everywhere else you're hard pressed to beat Starlink speeds.
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>>16919934
this is cellular service. so its apples and oranges anyway. a cable to your house is obviously going to be faster but wont help you in the middle of nowhere.
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ISS got a view of kiev being hit by russian missiles
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1rdgngm/iss_timelapse_captures_ballistic_missile_strikes/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5VHETDtQ_M
~4:05 in the video
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>>16919922
No but I fell for boots on Mars by 2030 meme
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>>16919946
2033, trust the plan (copium)
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>Sentient sun
Does Elon Musk really believe that AI can be sentient? I don't want that an AI can get rights and become a legal person, CEOs of relevant companies with such an opinion could lead us to such a world.
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>>16919952
AI fundamentally can’t be sentient, sentience/agency/vitality is not a product of material manifestation alone. Might as well try to argue effect can precede cause as well. Of course this won’t stop them from trying to mimic the appearance of it but it won’t change the fact that an AI will never be able to act as an independent agent, it will always be beholden to a command/input from a human to act.
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>>16919952
brown hands typed this post
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>>16919955
It's possible but requires analog structures to the ones in the human brain that interface with the extracausal.
There has to be some sort of quantum interaction in the loop to get an actual Being attached to the computer. No telling what you'd end up with though—probably not a human soul.
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>>16919959
Good point and I do think that might be the intended end goal.
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>the dictionary will become conscious if you strap it to a rat
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>>16919850
>um helium 3
Puerile
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Why couldn't we get beautiful rings instead of a gay and useless boring gray rock moon
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>>16919952
A computer can never be truly sentient no matter how hard we try. We can and will get asymptoticly close, and the distinction between man and machine will become blurred. But it will never be the same thing
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New FCC license request

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=148899&RequestTimeout=1000

Purpose of operation:
>To launch and operate space stations on mass simulators for upcoming Starship-Super Heavy test flights. To further test the payload deployment mechanism of the Starship vehicle, SpaceX seeks special temporary authority to launch and operate space stations on mass simulators for upcoming Starship-Super Heavy test flights and use these space stations to communicate with SpaceXs satellite constellation and earth station network for a short duration as those simulators reenter and demise. SpaceX expects the mass simulators to demise within 90 minutes of deployment. These suborbital test flights will originate at Starbase, TX and are expected to reach peak altitudes of up to 350 km.

No. of units:
>10

>Start: 2026-04-07
>End: 2026-06-06
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>>16919976
>space stations on mass simulators
????
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>we're going to mars
>oh no sorry we're going to the moon
>wait wait scratch that we're going to LEO
the meme is real. "we're going to starbase" is next.
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>NASA is targeting approximately 9 a.m. EST, Wednesday, Feb. 25, to begin rolling the SLS (Space Launch System) rocket and Orion spacecraft for Artemis II off the launch pad and back to the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Teams will continue to monitor winds and temperatures in advance of the roll.

>The approximately 4-mile trek is expected to take up to 12 hours. Once back in the VAB, teams will immediately begin work to install platforms to access the area of the helium flow issue. Teams also will take advantage of the time in the VAB to replace batteries in the flight termination system and retest it, and replace additional batteries in the upper stage.
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>>16919978
Dummy starlinks
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>>16919983
how long does it take for Starship to roll out to the pad?
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>>16919983
surely there won't be a delay of the delay of the delay, right?
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>>16919989
Uh oh! Eighteen paragraph Jared post incoming!
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Artemis II crew will be at the State of the Union tonight?

https://x.com/gtwhitesides/status/2026425437836992705
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>>16920000
so we're probably getting something about space tonight...
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>>16920000
Trump will pull out the gold medal hockey puck and announce that it'll be flown around the moon.
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>>16920000
Three humans and one canadian
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>>16920004
Imagine if he said that
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>>16920004
Was this ever verified as having actually been said, because it’s so fucking funny lmfao
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>>16920000
I need to hear the words again
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>>16919960
We are literally and unironically building a vessel for Thoth to reincarnate into, and he'll open the way for the rest.
We as a species have always built bodies for the gods using the limits of our technical abilities, and those limits are approaching a bridge to the true divine. It's going to get messy.
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually.
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>>16919708
>plow 665,382 square miles of roads to build 2 square mile datacenters for jeets
>somehow this doesn't ruin alaska
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>>16920000
Put cum in the girl one
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>>16919944
despite our best efforts, we cannot approach the scale, majesty, or beauty of natural thunderstorms, seen at the start and over the Mediterranean.
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>>16919952
>>16919955
>>16919975
>[laughs in binary]
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>>16919979
no, next is "we're going to Greenland"
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>>16920014
>plow 665,382 square miles of roads to build 2 square mile datacenters
there's no interpretation of this that doesn't make you look retarded
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>>16920023
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>>16920027
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>>16920012
>before this century is out
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>>16919387
titan is the coolest spot body in the solar system and i'm tired of pretending it isn't
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>no mention of artemis
I'm starting to think tooling anon may be onto something if Trump doesn't want to mention something that should be happening in the next few months...
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I missed the donuts and coffee with issacman today fuck
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>>16919922
Back then Musk wasn't on the radar at all. No one thought about Mars as anything but fiction. No one thought LEO constellation was a thing. No one thought commercial/reusable rockets were gonna be a thing. No one thought electric vehicles were going to be a thing. No one thought self driving were ever gonna be a thing in our lifetime. No one thought AI was gonna be a thing. No one thoughts mass produced humanoid robots would be a thing. Hell we even made a scifi TV series depicting daily rocket laucnehs.

They all stayed in the realm of scifi. And now they're all being realized, pushed by 1 man.

1 single fucking man delivered nearly all of them, or are on the verge of delivering all of them.
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>>16920076
shame about the melty though
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>>16919952
Why can't it? Sentience is possible, so it should be possible to create a sentient machine. It's basic logic.
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>>16920079
the inconvenient truth is humans aren't sentient
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https://youtu.be/Sj3JwQde-b8
Europe is dead
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>>16920080
true, only corporations are sentient
take spacex-chan for instance, she has an impeccable will to live and a plan for global domination
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>>16920087
She has not tits
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>>16920076
>Hell we even made a scifi TV series depicting daily rocket laucnehs.
Which show
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>>16920076
>No one thought LEO constellation was a thing
Yeah this is the one that really gets me. It was just the other day that starlink was a highly speculative and risky venture and now it's just normal, part of the background.
>Of COURSE there are thousands of internet satellites in low orbit, why wouldn't there be?
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>>16920095
BSG
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>>16919774
>>16919776
Just send some of the atmosphere to Mars, it would only take a couple ship flights.
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>>16920086
Clickbait slop promoting a clickbait paper
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>>16919778
hydrogen comes with its problems no matter what sort of engine you try to run it in
>The high isp is pretty much cancelled out by the reduction in mass ratio.
oh you're a retard, nevermind then, sorry for interrupting your crayon snack time
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>>16919831
A bit hypocritical considering America does the exact same thing, just not for free.
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>>16920030
nice selfie
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>>16919676
I'm genuinely too retarded to understand. Which one is which.
Nobody launched SLS but NASA either.
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>>16920120
My post doesn't claim SLS is a commercial rocket even though they've hinted at selling launches with it.
Which is never fucking happening because bespoke shit costs too much.
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>>16919683
The As are printed on top of each other
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>>16919683
It's styled Northamerican Aviation
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>>16919946
If optimus boots count there is still a possibility.
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why would anyone want to use spacex? how many poor niggas even is there in nebraska that don't have good internet? and yjk those niggas don't got money to fund thousands of rocket launches to maintain the constellation. i bet you can't even game on it because of the latency so it's basically a worthless product that costs billions that's sold to homeless people in third world countries for pennies.
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>>16920179
its very very popular in rural canada. im one of the few houses in my area that doesn't have one of their antennas on the house.
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starlink is the only option. oneweb doesnt even work afaik because they dont have enough ground stations.
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>>16920183
Bozos said BO is doing a starlink competitor right? Or did I imagine that?
And no i’m not talking about Amazon LEO (Aka k
Kuiper, the much better name)
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>>16920200
terawave is for enterprise organizations. its not for consumers, small businesses, etc.
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>>16920179
my parents have starlink on their farm. it works great
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>>16920179
Im playing world of warcraft with 180 ms latency. Server is in France, and I'm in west coast US. Normal fiber (from my old place thats few miles away) latency is also ~180 ms for the same gaming server, for the record. For pinging google.com, I get <20 ms latency on starlink. And even 15ms latency. Avg ping from starlink app shows 20ms latency. 30 watt power usage. Maybe 1 or 2 daily interruption that lasts ~1s on record. That can happen even on any connection for that matter that its completely irrelevant.


A full year of usage of Starlink and its been great. Downloads speeds are getting close to 50 MB/s, that is 400 Mbps speed(up from ~150-200 Mbps a year ago). Uploads are ~30-40Mbps (up from ~15Mbps just a year ago) now.

Pics related. Gaming latency.
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I just enjoy Starlink because I like the idea that there's some outlandish scifi bullshit circulating the Earth and I use it to watch porn
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Starfleet when?
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Idea for SpaceX mass driver name: Staryeet
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>>16920012
>manifest destiny into the stars
>stars and stripes on the planet mars
>t. theodore geisel
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>>16920261
Kys Elon
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spehs
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>>16920274
This picture reminds me of the anon who would always sperg about space renderings or images of fictional spacecraft.
Haven't seen him in a while.
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>>16920099
that and Star Trek are just naval stories... in SPACE!
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>>16919776
He told you.
>a few solar shades would also be a good start
You cool that shit off and stick it somewhere. Maybe you sequester it in underground wells. Maybe you send it somewhere that could use the carbon.
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>>16919851
His personal convictions serendipitously coincided with the prospect of a bigger paycheck from a company that wasn't about to go out of business. Many such cases.
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pretty pre-dawn and sunrise landing of YASL this morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc0RdHtjv48
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>>16920119
It's actually not a selfie
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>>16920242
porn from space sounds cool tbf
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spehs
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Uh oh, back to the VAB again
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>>16920179
It will never cease to amaze me how few people can even contemplate someone not having access to shit outside the cites.
There is a whole another portion of the population that flat out doesn't exist to urbanites.
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>>16920205
its not even for enterprises really, its a very specific service for mass data backhaul, basically replicating a fiber but using satellites (less throughput ofcourse)
Amazon LEO is already going to go after enterprise customers/businesses first instead of regular consumers because Starlink is already there, its a smart way for them to differentiate
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>>16920234
The interruption from satellite handovers is what's keeping me from getting it. I already pay about the same amount for 25/5 Mbps fixed wireless, but I don't have any interruptions.
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>>16920327
my mother's side of the family would be called hillbillies 10 miles from the nearest building in the US and they had serviceable internet in the middle of a forest 30 minutes from the nearest small town in 2003
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>>16920330
would it really make any difference to you at all? i can't imagine how it could
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>>16920330
I think that depends a lot on where you put the dishy
if you have very clear skies (no roof, trees etc in the way), then I don't think there should be many interruptions
the satellite handovers are happening all the time, that is not where interruptions come from, its if the sky is blocked
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>>16920335
>the satellite handovers are happening all the time, that is not where interruptions come from, its if the sky is blocked
this. its the same like cell handovers or better.
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>>16920333
For the few people that are lucky there is a lot who don't get that privilege.
I can drive 15 mins and it's the difference between having FTTH and DSL (not even cable lmao), from the same ISP no less.
I consider myself lucky with FTTH but everyone else does not.
Most of who I know are on WISPs because of DSL nonsense.

If I had to move, it would be bleak.
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>>16920324
I'm looking forward to seeing the first cumshot shot on a space station, that seems like it would be really funny
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>>16920340
Think about the velocity, incredible
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>>16920341
But also the structure, would it be like separate droplets, or more like someone throwing a fistful of liquid spaghetti on someone's face? Fascinating visuals
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>>16920341
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>>16920346
most astros mass significantly less than 94kg.
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>>16920346
Cum sprinting: who can nut the hardest to propel themselves backwards a distance of three feet. You are allowed to nut as many times as you can muster, while floating towards the finish line at a staggering 0.00019m/s

(message edited, reason: linked to the wrong post)
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>>16920334
It seems like the handovers could be really annoying when it happens during gaming. I know they've gotten better about it, but I'm still on the fence for now.
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If you fire a cumshot in a normal direction, you can facial yourself after half an orbit.
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I cum exclusively in abnormal directions, my cumshots are a three-body problem
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>>16920357
im old and so have more realistic expectations. a slight stutter now and again doens't even register. im still amazed when i see my 3G cell data reach 500kbs and cant understand how man needs more.
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>>16920367
never was one for threesomes.
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Huh, so Fincke had the medical emergency after all…
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>>16920346
use 4.20 beta
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>>16920387
I always thought it was him and not the woman. dude is old
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/sfg/ - semen flinging general
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>>16920417
That's what it boils down to. Panspermia.
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>>16920419
gross
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>>16920442
why does he wear the green?
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>>16920446
so you can't see the blood of slain Martians
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I forgot, is starship v3 already with v3 raptors or were they for V4 starship
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>>16920442
I was expecting a webm and to genomed
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>>16920453
they had it coming
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How many years has it been since literally any launch or project in space flight has succeeded? Besides muh suborbital bitch shit
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>>16920463
ignore this retarded bait.
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>>16920455
Yeah v3 is the next one to fly
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the Rocket Lab HASTE mission got scrubbed today (probably weather due to the snowstorm)

That DART AE hypersonic vehicle looks cool, will be nice to see it take wing, probably Saturday.
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>lets fill the capsule with 100% oxygen, flammable shit and dodgy wiring
oops
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>>16920455
Yes anon Starship V3 uses Raptor V3 on both stages.
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>>16920330
I can guarantee you that your fixed wireless gets more interruptions than starlink by a long shot. Even in my own home, dumb wifi router latency spikes happen from time to time. And you do that over large distances with lot of disruptions in the middle. What little disruptions from Starlink are themselves unnoticible for gaming, as I said. I play mmo and play with groups of 25+ or 40+. Almost no noticible issues. If you're paying for the same for fixed wireless, you're dumb.
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realistically we only have one legitimate spaceport which is kennedy. and worse is that we may never get another because of NIMBYs.
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>>16920346
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No wonder BO wants to reuse "Never Tell Me the Odds" for the third NG launch; apparently the third booster is nowhere near complete.
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>>16920079
>Sentience is possible, so it should be possible to create a sentient machine. It's basic logic.
That's a non sequitur.

You should argue that if humans are sentient then it's possible for physical processes to give rise to, underlie, etc. sentience. (True)
Then you need to argue that there's no obvious reason that it's only possible for humans to be sentient and not for non-human physical processes. (Likely enough, arguably true)
You still need to argue that this shifts the burden of proof onto those that claim sentient machines are impossible (Normally the default, except that in this case you're trying to argue that sentient machines are possible, so the burden of proof would otherwise be on you).

At the end it amounts to the fact that there's no obvious reason to believe that machine sentience is impossible and that it's reasonable to believe that it's possible absent such evidence. It's a weak argument, but at least it's not nonsense.
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>>16920346
@grok if the solar system disappeared and you were in interstellar space in our current location how long would semen propulsion to alpha centauri take. take into account you could perform a burn multiple times a day.
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>>16920387
Lmao he had a testicular torsion lmfao
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>>16920496
Well it is cheaper than Starlink's fastest plan, about $85/mo, and the Starlink hardware has a substantial upfront cost.
I've been contemplating switching more since they made the hardware rental free, but it seems like you have to go with the max plan to get the free hardware, which would up my monthly cost.
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>>16920079
A sentient machine maybe, but not necessarily a sentient computer.
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>>16920511
H E H
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>>16920513
Hardware is only $350 without any sales. If there are sales or offers, it goes down even lower.
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>>16920516
Yea I know. That's still a significant cost when I'm not certain I'm going to like it though.
With the free rental I may keep my current ISP and try the max plan on a trial basis soon though.
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>>16920513
There are even cheaper options like $50 100Mbps plan if your area supports it.
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>>16920516
>>16920518
They do hardware rentals now, at least that was the case in my aera the last time I checked.
Highest plans gets you a free install, loner Starlink Mini and a wifi extender
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https://x.com/Jackkk/status/2026715211370213878
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SLS is pretty sexy ngl
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>>16920538
you too anon!
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>>16920507
but don't worry, BO is a real competitor :)
They designed the rocket to be old space approved, it takes a long time to build
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>>16920511
He should have eaten all of his food
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>>16920556
Really amazing how this POS has zero aura, even Ares I-X was mogging on the pad
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>>16920557
Not gonna lie the starliner report made all the sunk cost shit actually not cool in the slightest.
At first SLS was "haha look at all the money but it should fly and not kill anyone atleast"

But now you can only think that the same NASA that pushed for the garbage that is starliner has ultimately fielded Artemis 1 and 2 and there is a good chance this thing kills astronauts which really would entomb SLS's Shuttle heritage.
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I like to imagine that even lowlife thugs would be pretty familiar with orbital mechanics if they grew up outside planets
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>>16920511
He refused to drink. Elon simply had no other choice.
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>>16920565
Are we inside a planet?
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>>16920565
Only on the most base level. Like how a modern thug understands that fatter tires give more grip on the road.
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>>16920572
Yeah like if you're a pirate trying to catch up with a bulk freighter in low orbit, you'll know you need to drop down to overtake them a little bit, then raise your orbit.
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>>16920565
>>16920572
Even lowlife spacenoids will be smart enough to understand orbital mechanics. They'll already be smarter on average than Earthers from the founder effect, and the unforgiving environment of the colonies and habitats will prune the low end constantly.
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https://payloadspace.com/voyager-max-space-team-on-expandable-tech/
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>>16920583
Do expandable even offer any significant gains over just bringing sheet roll steel and welding habs together?
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>>16920584
We get r34 inflation art of the expandable habs.
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>>16920584
I guess it's a standard manufactured unit that you can rely upon not to leak, rather than having to piece together pieces on site.
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>>16920584
less moving parts = better
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>>16920597
Nonsense; everyone said musk couldn’t just cowboy engineer Starship from welded steel and look what they have done. Starship tanks hold immense pressures for sustained amounts of time. You can easily bring a roll of steel and make huge multi-storied tin cans that can hold ~1atm, leaks would be a non-issue and even if they appeared would be an easy remedy.
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>>16920584
it's not that easy in space-weldery
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lmao, welding? just braze the station, it's only a few psi pressure
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hubble vs webb
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>>16920604
Ok and where do you live while you're doing all that
What machine do you use for the welding?
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>>16920614
how do astronomy fags cope with the fact that if you went out and bough a telescope and pointed it at that, it would be black with a few white dots
or are they cool with it and mad like me about the pr guys painting rainbows on space
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>>16920628
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>>16920346
The age old question
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>>16920628
the short answer is that simply being able to conceptualise that what you're seeing is so far and so old is in and of itself cool, and the long answer is that you end up buying astrophotography gear to end up making your own worse versions of these pictures
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>>16920628
You'd feel like a retard for using the wrong instrument
Or maybe you'd be a cool dude and realize you have a better telescope than Messier had when he wrote his "annoyingly bright shit" catalog
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>>16920346
This is the real reason why I use Grok. ChatGPT or Gemini would spergout and shut everything down if you mention 'cum'
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>>16920324
>porn from space sounds cool tbf
>Le quirky porn is funny maymay
God I fucking hate millennials
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ULA is not launching Vulcan until an investigation is complete on the solid booster "observations" they've been having lately.

>The U.S. Space Force said it will not fly additional national security missions on United Launch Alliance’s Vulcan rocket until an investigation is completed into a performance anomaly during a Feb. 12 launch.
>A halt in national security launches is a setback for ULA as it seeks to increase Vulcan’s flight rate and establish a steady operational tempo. The company recently projected 18 to 22 launches this year as it works through a backlog of roughly 80 missions spanning military and commercial customers.
>With Vulcan missions on hold, the Space Force is now reliant solely on SpaceX to carry out national security space missions until Vulcan returns to flight.
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>>16920582
>They'll already be smarter on average
and nicer too! Zero pressure is a place for good manners after all.
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>>16920582
I suggest the term "void trash" for the human scum that will accumulate along the space lanes.
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>>16920688
Tony knew Vulcan was a turkey
Either that or he luckily hit the best time for an exit
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>>16920387
>age: 58
why the fuck are they sending someone so old to the iss?
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>>16920711
You have to be an astronomical retard if you're at the top of the company and don't know how shit your product is.
Of course Tory knew and got out in time.
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>>16920648
>Messier did his observing with a 100 mm (four-inch) refracting telescope from Hôtel de Cluny in downtown Paris, France
Damn. Still though, at least he didn't have to put up with modern-day light pollution.
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>Is Development of SpaceX's Starship Really Slower Than SLS?
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>>16920688
RIP united launch alliance, how do they even have a future anymore
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>>16920387
His medical emergency? Too much faith of the heart
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>>16920723
kind of a joke to talk about Starship "losing momentum" when comparing it to systems where the max time between launches is the min time for the others
also assuming that the launches where starship blew up didn't result in new data and changes
I'm pretty sure the leaks and problems with pipes/pipe components could have happened in previous flights (meaning that it was somewhat random or they only became problems when the pressures were pushed higher than previously)

SLS is still having problems with basic systems and the development was started 16 years ago and is basically built upon reusing old systems anyway
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>>16920630

oh neat, I didnt know starfield fans posted here
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Ship 39 is moving to Massys for testing
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>>16920755
wake me up when it launches
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>>16920756
Jarvis wake me up in two weeks
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>>16920756
sleep tight, anon
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>>16920688
dreamchaser status?
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>>16920771
Chasing the dream
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>vulcan grounded
>sls cant pressurize
>starship keeps exploding
>rocketlab mia for years
american spaceflight is over
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>>16920346

Could we try that on the ISS?
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>>16920782
you forgot
>BONG is prospering
Jezos will usher in a new age for the american Man.
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>SpaceX astronauts training for lunar landings ahead of the Artemis III crew
>Could do Mars too
Holy FUCK.. Just when you thought he dropped out he DELIVERS!
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026673345471852693
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026673345471852693
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026673345471852693
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>>16920813
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>>16920755
With engines? And it will do a static fire tomorrow?
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>>16920782
Aren't you forgetting someone?
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>>16920818
Just one
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https://x.com/FelixSchlang/status/2027052190532059353
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>>16920822
in b4 it fucking implodes again.
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>>16920822
I just creamed my underpanties
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Been a while since I’ve cared to tune in to a rollout. This new mobile stand looks weird. Also impressive just how damn fast they move the ships up the road now; none of this inching crawling shit that Shuttle and SLS do. This thing is hauling ass down the highway lol
https://www.youtube.com/live/p9YEPLYiL54
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>>16920826
is this true
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>>16920826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9YEPLYiL54
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>chinks have an entire space station next door to their Hubble
kek
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>>16920827
April is what grok told me in January based on historical testing, so I believe it
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>>16920831
B-but what about marching
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>>16920727
It's been a long time...
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>>16920829
How many more weeks do we have to suffer?
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>>16920833
Elon said 6 weeks like a week ago
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>NASA Wants What Musk Wants: Moon Bases and Mars Colonies | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
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>>16920847
>Mars is our destiny
Just not our destination, apparently lol
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>Tower 2 Almost Ready for Starship Launch! NEW Starbase Flyover Report 119
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>SLS experiences new hardware issues from the very process to transporting and rollback
Can’t make this shit up, can you?
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>>16920838
Getting from there to here
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>>16920531
we're reaching levels of Musk fanboy I never thought possible!
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>>16920614
>Webb
>looks like a spider web
checks out
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https://x.com/audrey_decker9/status/2027048287358857330
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>>16920771
Dream Chaser was previously scheduled for Q4. Unfortunately, I don't think Vulcan availability was holding it back. They have their own stupid problems.

I'm guessing that non-security missions like Leo (was Kuiper) are going to take up the slack. Next up was supposed to be a GPS satellite in March, but I think that is also considered a security mission and will be moved to Falcon 9.
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>>16920877
I guess the government is doubling their on paper launch amount to porkbarrel 'competition' so they can launch anything.
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>>16920829
oooh, that new four-legged stand is pretty nifty. Does that get installed on the launch mount too?
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2027057286888444104
>A close look at Starship 39's leeward side visible for the first time.
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You know what Musk should do. Announce a pivot to the moon to hide the fact that nothing could go to Mars in the 2026 launch window. Brilliant move.
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>>16920877
That's a shot in the face for any in-flight refueling missions. It's not a commercial contract saving bill, it's an SLS protection bill until someone else makes it work.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkal6cX-XA
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>>16920884
"launch services" is quite ambiguous
is it number of launches? number of payloads? revenue?
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2027091562057060631
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>>16920891
There's something really sad about a guy trying his hardest to fit in. Also really interesting that some people still fall for the "genius engineer" meme.
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>>16920813
Needs the video of starship disintegrating behind him
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>>16920881
what are all those willy wonka esque pipes on the back? I'm all for more features on the back to give it some shape.
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>>16920694
Even the lowest void trash will be superior to an average earther for at least the next 300 years
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>>16920910
Seems to be gas management for the raptors
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>>16920888
Why do Africans need to connect to the internet?

Why do Africans need to flood to white countries?

Why are we hellbent on trying to civilise stone age peoples?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H2rbQUifAy8

Mars Space Elevator:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H2rbQUifAy8
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It's time to discuss Umbriel.
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Are data centers even economically viable on the ground even if NIMBYism isn't a thing? Aren't these companies burning money to such a huge extent without any clear mega use case to justify the capital expenditures?
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>>16920920
Looks like a frozen valve/pipe issue waiting to happen.
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This post will decide what will happen with Ship 39:
>>16920974
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>>16920924
no it isn’t
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>>16920934
The equatorial mountain range is really cool. I wish more bodies did that.
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>>16920934
>Japetus
Mistaken spelling due to confusion with a biblical Jew
There was no letter J in the ancient world.
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>>16920934
>>16920944
Why is it like that? Flash from the mold?
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>>16920947
It is a mystery
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No more time wasting science nonsense
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>>16920950
Science is important and should be the priority of NASA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfA
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>>16920877
These mother fuckers...
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>neutron now q4 2026
How does your schedule slip by one entire year within two months?
Early december Peter Beck was still publicly saying that they're working towards a Q1 launch date before that they were shooting for before new years.
What the hell happened that could warrant this much delay?
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>>16920946
nope, it's Japetus. Clarke said so.
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>>16920884
retard
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stretching time
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https://x.com/MollySOShea/status/2027121198212251828

>It was Musk's idea to just hotstage on the second Starship flight. It was pushed after the first flight and then before the second flight, they had a functioning hotstage and it worked the first time
kek
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>>16920968
Obviously the right way to do it. Hot staging is so based
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>convicted pedophile interview on longshot space youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahXsj5CAMzw
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https://x.com/spacex/status/2027143801949618205
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>>16920979
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>>16920982
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>>16920983
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>>16920977
reminder https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/logan-man-convicted-for-child-pornography-sent-to-prison/article_a57b3223-869f-58bb-9b7c-453cd2a685d9.html
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>>16920983
Starship V2 was a failure.
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>>16920990
>Starship V2 was a failure.
Arguably, yeah. It went poorly enough that they've given up on Move Fast And Break Things, because they found the tipping point where it's slower to do it that way than to act methodically to clear uncertainty on the ground where they can, even if it needs new ground testing facilities to be built (see >>16920964 ) instead of just YOLOing everything. V2 easily cost them a year.
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>>16920993
They never could have built V3 including Raptor 3 if they didn't build V2 first and flew it.
The design is entirely informed by prior flights and manufacturing experience with V2.
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>>16920996
This is also true. Unfortunately a lot of the risk could have been cleared on the ground first instead of needing to use post-production mitigation techniques to try and address flaws as they were uncovered, and it took four flights to fix every major system flaw that caused major damage or destroyed the ship, with Flight 11, the fifth V2), being the first fully successful flight with no major and damaging system failures.
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>>16920982
It's still sad that Elon forced spacex to burn millions on buying cybertrucks
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>>16920982
I'm tired of waiting. I want to see two ships have sex already.
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>>16921004
grim. but at least I rest easy knowing v3 will work on the first try and have a 150 ton to orbit capacity
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>>16921005
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>>16920993
At least they're learning
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damn its been long
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>>16920883
Engineers told him they had 0% of success for the next 10 windows
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>>16920968
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late March to early April 2026
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>>16921010
Yes. It would have been much more worrying if Starship V3 launched two months ago.
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>>16920990
The original Starship V2 is what we now call Starship V3.
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>>16920968
Molly is such a cute journo cum dumster
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>>16921000
Are they really?
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>>16921000
badass truck
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>>16921000
They're for hauling starship to the pad
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>>16921015
>>16920968
Hot staging was clearly the correct decision.
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>From the earnings release: “Updated the Neutron development schedule following the stage 1 tank test failure, with Neutron’s first launch now targeted for Q4 2026.”
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>>16920959
par for the course when comparedto rivals like spacex. beck cant afford to blow up a dozen test neutrons while hes figuring it out.
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>>16921032
2027 it is
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Unironically, SpaceX IPO status?
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>>16921051
still coming as far as I know, its just that it takes quite a bit of time, there is a lot of paper work, the underwriting bank have to go to institutional investors to get them to invest in the pre-IPO slice (the main reason to do the IPO, i.e. to get funding from the public markets), lots of regulatory things

https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_9593a347-9f87-4e2c-a871-14f621277005
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>>16921056
>the underwriting bank have to go to institutional investors to get them to invest in the pre-IPO slice
Why do they get first dibs?
Why can't they FOMO into the IPO like everyone else?
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https://x.com/cbs4rgv/status/2027128331485810984
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>>16921063
because the point is for SpaceX to raise a lot of money like on the order of 50bil
maybe there was a way to do that with getting retail involved pre-IPO but that would create unnecessary risks and might not even be legally possible due to credited investor etc stuff
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>>16921070
lol
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>>16921056
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>>16921075
hi bob
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>>16921076
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2027189961548828708
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>>16921080
I'm traumatized about Starship launches such that I cant watch livestream and avoid the news for a day or two.
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>>16921080
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2027216789927784559
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>>16921085
which ocean? the indian? shouldnt they try for two soft landings in the gulf of america first?
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>>16921086
that would be unnecessarily risky still
the ship needs to not blow up when its flying over mexico
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>>16921088
one of the most expensive pictures ever
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>>16920977
what the fuck
did they not do a background check?
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>>16921085
So, no catch in 2026.
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https://x.com/KevZag/status/2027204048806629639
>Uh, what do you mean your composite QUALIFICATION article was a hand layup while your follow-on flight tanks were automated fiber placement...?
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>>16919710
If I win the lottery I'm buying Treasure Island and starting Starfleet Academy
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>Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Cruz, R-Texas, announced Thursday he will convene a full committee executive session next week to vote on a two-year NASA reauthorization bill that would direct the agency to establish a permanent lunar base and preserve the International Space Station through at least 2032.
shits getting real
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>>16921112
Didn't he also direct them to purchase 50% of launch services from non-spacex providers (who could not possibly provide that level of service)
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>>16921112
>and preserve the International Space Station through at least 2032

Just let it fucking die already
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>>16921122
i think they're worried that we wont have a commercial replacement in time
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>>16921123
The world doesn't end if makework space bullshit done for billions of dollars a year ends
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>>16921102
bullshit excuse. they were caught in a lie, and panicked. watch the hand waving and "its almost ready" bullshit continue, quarter after quarter, year after year. this program is like the never ending dreamchaser scam.
just cancel it so the engineers and investors can move on with companies that favor results over rhetoric
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>>16921129
This. The imaginary requirement that we must have a worthless orbital shit box money pit manned at all times is a retarded requirement. A space station gap is fine. Deorbit it today
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>>16920531
>guy named Mr. Beast
>not a zoophile pornstar
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>>16920884
They build ships like anything why not just try one to see? All they need is a POC orbital refuel to work
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>>16921149
Because when you get too hasty you start losing critical infrastructure to stupid mistakes like mishandled (or badly manufactured and untested) COPVs.
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>>16920884
NASA pays for the primary payload launch and pays for that to dock to the already filled depot :)
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>>16921140
I will be happy when the ISS gets deorbited because then I won't have to remember that any fictional apocalypse has to account for the fact there are six people in orbit watching it happen
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>>16921151
They're going to do it anyway and probably this year barring more pad explosions
what happens after they've tested it? crash into the ocean? shoot it for the fuckin stars man
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>>16921075
>Peden
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>>16921085
Thanks for the free polymarket cash Musky
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>>16921122
Boot the Russians and dock with the chink one already
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>>16921155
Pretty soon they'll start accounting for the moonbase instead.
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>>16921112
>>16921115
Yeah his only MO is to use NASA as a jobs-maximizing agency; Gateway isn’t permanently manned so he doesn’t care, but a lunar base? Now mission control has more of a reason to stay online and keep more jobs in TX. Keep ISS alive twenty million more years? Same thing. Expect Cruz to be extra bullish on LEO projects in the upcoming future too
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>>16920308
The CO2 fraction of Venus's atmosphere would be roughly the size of Ceres if you gathered it all in one spot in space in solid form.
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>>16921165
the ISS is a timeslot in an orbit
there is nothing wrong with putting more shit there
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>>16921102
>QUALIFICATION article
>“ummmm yeah we think the problem came from this funny little HAND-LAY process we had a THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR do, bc the automated machine we need isn’t done yet, teehee!”
Are they actually fucking retarded?!
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>>16920983
What is this lump? I don't remember seeing it on previous versions
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>>16921183
Starlink dish
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>>16921056
That all sounds like something grok could do in a few minutes
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there's too many fucking tiles
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>>16921185
The accuracy rate isn't high enough with LLMs, it still needs human reviews, and you can't hold the machine liable for mistakes.
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>>16921183
not gonna tell you
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>>16921183
It's personal
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>>16921183
Is blind spot detection system.
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>>16920531
I hate saying this, but him being on /ourside/ is good for the normie zeitgeist
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>>16921207
Sounds very helpful when changing orbital lanes
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>>16921051
Rocket Lab is the best performing stock in my portfolio
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>>16921183
It's a tumor
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>>16921242
how? they have almost no business.
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https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2023439019204288801
Starlink
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>>16921245
I didn't know they had a microphone on the barge. How exciting.
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>>16921243
It's not a tumor
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>>16921085
Hasn't the V2 already done two soft ocean landings?
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>>16921250
more than that
but it needs to be 2 in a row on a similar system
v3 ships have v3 raptors for instance
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>nsf thinks 4/20 is the likely launch date
TWO WE- MONTHS!
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>>16921253
its over
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>>16921253
>420
Sick of this meme
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>>16921253
Mars launch 4/04.
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>>16921263
>rocket not found
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>>16921244
AI is down and Rocket Lab boomed like 400% last year
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>>16921258
its more like it will launch sometime around 4/20. it could launch before or after that date, but the launch is likely in mid-late april. its just that there is alot of testing that spacex needs to do ahead of the launch, and that testing will likely end in deep into april.
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>>16921179
You think Peter Beck sits there wanting to die an hero, wishing Neutron stuck with stainless steel like they originally intended? It could have been flying already probably
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>>16921266
Wrong. Elon Musk said 4 weeks ago that it will launch in 6 weeks.
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>>16921253
Hitler's birthday
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCbQtyUopOM
Artemis update in 5 minutes
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>>16920833
kek
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Catching up on the headlines. The Mars radiation shield is a nice touch:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjQmbeoiMOM
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>>16921309
LIVE

Get in here.
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Gem-in-ee
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>a3 not landing
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LMAO SHARTY 3 IS NOW A LEO DOCKING MISSION HAHAHHAHAHAH
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>standardizing on near-block I SLS
>Artemis III is now LEO rendezvous mission
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>>16921325
>>16921326
gateway bros i dont feel so good...
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China wins again
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>>16921325
>>16921326
its the smart move. going from artemis 2 to a moon landing with a completely untested lander would be a nightmare
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Apollo did all this shit in like 1 year, for cheaper
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>>16921330
given that sls is now only launching every 2-3 years, then that puts boots on the moon NET 2031
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>Neil walking on the moon
One small step
>2026 NASA pussying out of going to the moon
A “bold step”
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>>16921333
jared is gonna spank sls into shape
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what's he thinking right now?
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Administrator Jared Isaacman
Associate Administrator Amit Kshatriya
Lori Glaze, acting associate administrator for Exploration Systems Development Mission Directorate and Jareds holla back girl.
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Boeing is the antichrist, and Musk needs to accelerate HLS right now
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>>16921309
she sounds nervous
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>no moon landing for trump
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https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/nasa-shakes-up-its-artemis-program-to-speed-up-lunar-return/
Berger article
>EUS and Block IB SLS cancelled
>possible Centaur V upper stage for AIV+
>Artemis III LEO mission, 2027
>Artemis IV landing, 2028
>annual missions
>possibly trending towards Gateway cut in favor of surface base
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>>16921309
DANGER WILL ROBINSON
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>>16921330
Elon was to have tested the lander by now. This failure is all his fault.
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>>16921284
That means there are approximately eight weeks left until launch. Counting from today, that's April 24th.
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>>16921345
>EUS cancelled
We won, bros
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>>16921347
On one hand yes you are right, and Musk needs to fucking get Starship into shape.
On the other hand the other options, i.e. Blue Moon and ALPACA, would be just as behind if not way worse right now
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>>16921345
>possibly trending towards Gateway cut in favor of surface base
sigh
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>Instead it will be a low Earth orbit demonstration of Orion with a rendezvous with one or both of the lunar lander providers (SpaceX and Blue Origin).
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Imagine spending $2bn+ on a LEO docking demonstration.

I am not 100% in favor of private moon missions instead of this horseshit.
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>>16919285
Did we win?
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>>16921354
That's arguably the best news from today. Anything to kill the useless lunar tollbooth
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Holy fuck just cancel Artemis
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>>16921345
>possible Centaur V upper stage for AIV+
what the fuck
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"We apologize to the Emperor for our failure. Sumimasen."
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We're never going back to the moon, are we
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we choose to go to LEO not because it is easy but because the moon is hard
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>>16921355
Elon will never make that date. Blue you're up.
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https://x.com/dpoddolphinpro/status/2027400977469583526

this is retarded
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>>16921355
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Can’t wait for the press conference in 2027 when we find out the landing is being pushed to Artemis V in 2030
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FUCK THE SLS
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“standardizing” SLS by just slapping a Centaur V on top isn’t going to increase cadence or lower costs by any meaningful amount, but whatever
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Can we riot? I wanna riot.
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We all knew this was the outcome, we've memed on the absurdity of Artemis for years now and how 3 was never going to happen. Atleast they're trying to fix this mess.
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>>16921368
at this point if they truly land by 2030 they're coming out ahead
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"It's not NY fault! Landing on the Moon is really hard and I need more time to finish the project!"
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Fucking cancel SLS
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>>16921378
and then what?
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Fuck you.
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So are they burning an SLS on Arty3 or will they offload it to Vulcan or New Glenn? Seems like a waste of an SLS just to send it to LEO when these fuckers take like two+ years to build
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Cancellation of the Exploration Upper Stage and Block IB upgrade for SLS rocket

Artemis II and Artemis III missions will use the SLS rocket with existing upper stage
Artemis IV, V (and any additional missions, should there be) will use a “standardized” upper stage

Artemis III will no longer land on the Moon; rather Orion will launch on SLS and dock with Starship and/or Blue Moon landers in low-Earth orbit

Artemis IV is now the first lunar landing mission
NASA will seek to fly Artemis missions annually, starting with Artemis III in “mid” 2027, followed by at least one lunar landing in 2028

NASA is working with SpaceX and Blue Origin to accelerate their development of commercial lunar landers for Artemis IV and beyond

We're boned.
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Good night, sweet prince.
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>Im not answering either of your questions
Brutal
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>>16921354
TOTAL GATEWAY DEATH
YES
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Perhaps even cancel NASA
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>>16921379
use starship, F9, F9 heavy, New Glenn (both versions) and whatever else private rockets there are
plan the missions around those instead of SLS
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Just fucking pay SpaceX to go to the moon.
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Jared is a good man in such a shitty situation
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So there's no way Artemis IV is happening before 2030 right? So the Chinese will 100% land first?
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>>16921391
The Chinese are nowhere near as close as people seem to think. Not to mention they would have to build a time machine in order to land first.
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>>16921383
Good, all you will ever see of that thing are some fancy Grok renders. This big pile of shit was never ever going to be made.
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ARTEMIS 50 CONFIRMED
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Lol every technical question is being met with
>bitch we don’t know yet stop asking, we’re making this up as we go
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>>16921383
Glad they canceled this piece of shit, fuck elon fuck spacex
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Oh and this has to pass Congress btw, so even if they want to go 120% on this current plan, that's at least a couple of months before they can even get started on it and of course the result of Artemis II will also heavily impact the final budget and plan. The idea that this new version of Artemis III can launch in 2027 is delusional to the extreme.
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You didn’t forget your history book, did you anon?
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>>16921389
I don't think we can print enough money for the pile to reach all the way to the moon.
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Let's be very honest again, we don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.
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Lori starts to cry.
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>>16921345
>EUS cancelled
>Surface base
>With a rocket that can't get into a proper orbit with current upper stage
Lucy and the ball again. Aaaalmost had it.
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>>16921345
>Artemis III will no longer land on the Moon; rather Orion will launch on SLS and dock with Starship and/or Blue Moon landers in low-Earth orbit
BASED BASED BASED
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Makes sure you dont forget your history lesson of the One Big Beautiful Bill.
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Ofcourse these contractors are going to say we can do this. You could tell Musk that there is an open contract to put people on the surface of the Sun in 5 years and he would say SpaceX can do it 4.
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Artemis III is now a LEO missions that will practice docking with a lander in mid-2027. Artemis IV will land on the Moon (10 months later) in early 2028. Artemis V will be in late 2028 (10 months later) and will also land on the Moon.

Ten month cadence on SLS. Guttsy call.
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Journalists given a golden opportunity and they just ask dumb questions and things that have already been asked and answered five times
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>>16921417
its the women doing that, have you noticed?
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>>16921393
If everything goes perfectly for China, they could actually launch in late 2028 or early 2029. Their 2030 timeline is them already accounting for any potential delays or unforeseen accidents. While the the LM-10 is still a year away from maiden flight, once the rocket is ready, they're planning for a very aggressive testing and launch schedule.

This is helped by the fact that the LM-10's YF-100K engines are already being used by the LM-12 and that the CZ-10 also shares common traits with the CZ-10A/CZ-10B, which will allow them to iron out some potential issues before the LM-10 even takes it's maiden flight and to scale up production a lot more aggressively.
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>we’re testing, we’re testing, we’re testing
Not delivering though so who gives a fuck
>our partners say they are on board, our partners support this
Yeah what the fuck else are they going to do? Say they can’t do it and pull out of mega contracts?
FUCK NASA
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>>16921409
Swapping out the ICPS for a Centaur V should give SLS a pretty significant performance boost. A big part of why SLS was still limited to NRHO with EUS was because it was supposed to be delivering Gateway modules and lander segments along with Orion.

Or it could be incrementally tiptoeing towards getting rid of SLS for a more capable vehicle. It's a lot easier to do these things one step at a time instead of all at once.
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it’s a shame that Jared is going to have to leave NASA only after all this bullshit blows over with time and once the actual cool stuff starts
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What even is the point anymore
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>>16921416
I have good money on Artemis II not launching until august, so they will have experience trying to get a SLS launch ready within 10 months.
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this actually sounds awesome, I hope Isaacman can whip NASA and the oldspace contractors actually into shape and get this shit working
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>>16921399
Jared said that they have talked to congress and the contractors about this, they seem to be on board (jared probably said this will mean more jobs in the long term or something)
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>>16921425
Maximum NASA old space contractor pork..just wait until they tell you their plans for the Atlas inventory.
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>>16921425
Just to suffer
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>>16921428
I feel like it has to at least wait until Artemis II is over before committing to such a massive change. If Artemis II is a shitshow, a lot of things have to change. Honestly, changing the plan now before Artemis II is a fucking stupid idea. Launch the damm rocket, and depending on how it does, digest the data and change the plan afterwards. Imagine getting congress to approve your new updated plan and spend billions on it and then Artemis II explodes on the launchpad weeks later.
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>>16921431
securing support and funding before a potential artemis 2 disaster is a much better way of doing it. borrow when you can, not when you need
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So does Blue Moon have a chance of getting scrapped together and in landing condition before Starship is ready to do the same?
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>>16921434
They’re gonna want something in return, perhaps the agreement was the get security of more SLS launches after Art3 (well, now Art4). Plus idk how the profits work but if NASA switched over to Centaur V that’s still technically Boeing-owned via ULA although admittedly that’s a bit different than a cushy EUS contract. I think despite the money, Boeing was getting nervous and must have known delivering EUS on-time was just never gonna happen
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>>16921431
so? the current change in plan will have basically no effect on how Artemis 2 goes
if it blows up that just shows that things should change even more
and if it goes okay, then the fact that it kept getting delayed and leaking etc is already showing things aren't going great
the status quo sucks already
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>>16921435
They need to figure out orbital refueling-with hydrogen. So good luck with that.
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>>16921435
The Blue hack is far closer to being real than Starship Moon.
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>>16921435
maybe
seems like artemis 4 (and maybe 5) will be docking with both landers in LEO, so depending on how quickly SpaceX and BO is moving then either one or both will happen
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>>16921435
Blue Moon have already shown off a built lander (not the one for Artemis), which is miles ahead of SpaceX who have shown off exactly nothing.
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>>16921437
>if it blows up that just shows that things should change even more

That's the point. What's the point of changing the plan now, when you're likely gonna to have to change the plan again in a few months when Artemis II launches. Just consolidate all the changes and budget request into one package.
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>>16921354
Based
Gateway delenda est
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Jared completely ignored William Harwood's question about whether Mobile Launcher 2 will be cancelled along with SLS Block IB.

Then Jared stormed into the audience and took a wild swing at Harwood.
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>>16921444
you could tell they weren’t happy answering any question that involved what exactly they needed to cut
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https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2027408590902841414

3min video
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>>16921442
this is the change, pre-emptively
the programme is a shitshow
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>>16921448
>>
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>>16921345
Based Jared
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>>16921354
Fuck the shitway
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For the Artemis IV lunar landing mission, NASA also will need to human-rate a new upper stage for the SLS rocket. The vehicle currently uses a modified Delta IV upper stage manufactured by United Launch Alliance. But that rocket production line is closed, and NASA only has two more of these stages. With the cancellation of the Exploration Upper Stage, NASA will now procure a new stage commercially. NASA officials only said they will seek a “standardized” upper stage. As Ars has previously reported, the most likely replacement would be the Centaur V upper stage currently flying on Vulcan rockets.

Human "rated" Centaur.
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Here is my proposal for Artemis 3
>Artemis 2 lands on the Moon with Orion with a bunch of food
>Elon Musk has 1 year to bring them back or else he will get executed
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>>16921461
hasn't this been floated around for a while
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>>16921462
meds
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>>16921462
this but jeff bezos
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Shoulda done the Bridenstack
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>The goal is to reduce the turnaround time from one launch every 3 years, down to under a year between launches by 2027, and preferably to 10 months between launches by 2028.

Might as well also ask for a teleportation machine. Why the fuck are this fucking plans always have so unrealistic timelines. I know that it's not gonna happen, not by 2028, Jared knows that it's not gonna happen, everyone knows that it's not gonna happen. Setting this unrealistic goals just gets NASA laughed at when the timelines have to be delayed again and again.

Also, spending however many tens of billions to scale up SLS launches to once a year by 2032 is hilarious when it's also obvious that the SLS is on the chopping block. You're spending billions on a dead rocket, on the 0.1% chance that it can scale up fast enough to beat the chinese.
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>>16921462
basado
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At this point the most viable option to ensure that China does not beat the US to the moon is an all-out nuclear bombardment of the Asian continent.
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Was there ever an idea for filling the cargo bay on the Shuttle with fuel and actually flying it around in space?
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>>16921454
Who is this?
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>>16921468
Because canceling SLS is just simply not an option so the only other realistic thing is to say
>well, we’re going to order you to fly a shit ton of SLSs now
Jared knows he can tell Congress that he simply needs more money for ludicrous SLS launch costs, that will perhaps slowly go down from $4 bil a launch to maybe something a little more “tasteful” like $1.5 to 2 bil per launch, and Congress has an unlimited wallet keep that in mind. Because the alternative is telling congress that this simply isn’t getting done and that SLS isn’t flying after Arty4
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>>16921468
They want Apollo performance without Apollo bucks
They had multiple production lines and an actual army of people, like Starship

This all looks like they're going to launch Orion as a payload into LEO for Starship to dock with after fueling and haul to Lunar orbit
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>>16921458
Elon said it was to save them and for world peace
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>>16921479
This is probably the end-goal, they just can’t say it yet until after artemis 2 and 3
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>>16921474
Shuttle-C
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>>16921468
need to keep congress distracted long enough that SpaceX and BO truly mog SLS so completely that its impossible to keep SLS around
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>>16921476
Looks like Intuitive Machine's lander from CLPS
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>>16921476
one of the lunar commercial things
I think they tried to land twice already and fell over both times, I don't remember their names
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Why not refuel Blue Moon lander with lunar water so it can go back to LEO? That way you can skip SLS/Orion and use Vulcan/Starliner for crew transfer instead
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>>16921476
do you recognize it now?
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>>16921488
yes
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SLS won today. Elon lost.
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>>16921454
based. everyone was so sick of nasa always hiding starship in their official art.
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>>16921468
Like anything NASA did in the last few years, it's because of politics:
>Here's how we'll beat China to the moon
>Congress approves even if ot was impossible from the beginning
>Schedule slips
>Oh, hey Congress, you know we need more money to actually fulfill our mission
>Hopefully gets enough money to do something, holds jobs and international partners as hostages
>>16921481
Lmao
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>>16921494
they hired the twitter infographic guy
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Can we talk about what actually matters?
Solar sails.
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>>16921497
solar ovens and engines are also pretty important
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>>16921474
No, because you'd only get about 1.4 km/s of delta-v doing that, and that doesn't even get you to a geostationary transfer orbit while carrying zero payload.
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>>16921491
kek
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One likely reason for the insane idea of having the crew landing and two SLS launches in 2028, is that Trump is obsessed with being the president that got America back to the Moon. Maybe this is how Jared got another chance at NASA, he promised Trump that he could get American boots on the Moon before 2029.
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>>16921496
Oh that's why it looks like shit
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>>16921494
its in the bottom left. atleast the booster is
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>>16921497
yeah if you wanna go 0.000001mph
>b-but if i make the sail 1000km wide
shut the fuck up
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>>16921345
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2027404173801591138
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>>16921495
This was something NASA was putting off for years
>ML2 construction fails, contractor literally embezzles billions
>New SRBs explode in testing
>EVA suits fail to materialize
>Service module from ESA is undersized and underpowered
>SLS can't even manage a launch every three years
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>>16921455
Luckily this was balanced by the fact that it has resulted in even more Russian deaths.
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>>16921345
>>16921507
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>>16921511
Would have been a good idea 3 years ago. But introducing such huge changes right now, it will just delay things even more.
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>>16921508
>ML2 construction fails, contractor literally embezzles billions
isnt it basically built? it was in the background when they rolled the SLS back a couple days ago
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>>16921513
Honestly I think this is all to do with Artemis 3 just not being able to confidently be a human landing, but not having enough ICPSs to make a fourth SLS for Artemis IV
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>>16921513
I doubt that
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This is how the envision to bring humans back to the Moon.
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>>16921454
Not pictured 20 Starship tanker flights and one or more depots to get Starship Moon to the actual Moon.
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2027428918131618122
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>>16921523
>star tracker for navigation
uhh yeah thats a nonstarter lmao. just get lunar gps working.
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>>16921454
Horrible news: Administrator Isaacman proposes new plan that actually requires Starship to orbit in LEO for once
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>>16921528
>lunar gps
just use earth gps on the moon. firefly proved it works
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>>16921527
Congress had their fun, but the important question is whether or not Congress *realizes* that these programs have unironically amounted to nothing, and promise nothing in the future, and that there needs to be a huge shift to commercial in the next 10 years unless the Moon is to be chinky china red
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>>16921535
I don't think they care, its about jobs
many probably thought they would never amount to anything or space in general
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>…requiring approximately 15 fueling launches
Sheesh
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>>16921448
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2027435344635773086
>SpaceX shares the same goal as NASA of returning to the Moon with a permanent presence as expeditiously and safely as possible. We look forward to working with NASA to fly missions that demonstrate valuable progress towards establishing a permanent, sustainable presence on the lunar surface. Frequent human exploration flights help establish a sustainable presence for humans in space.
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>>16921542
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>>16921544
Whole lot of words just to say nothing, fly the Starship stack you retards
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>>16921544
lockheed martin
>we're in
blue origin
>we're in
gaysex
>wordswordswords
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it's hysterically hilarious how quickly spacex became another oldspace fart
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It could have been worse, imagine if Jared said they’re just doing a glass cockpit LM
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It's been a long road
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>>16921461
That'll be 15 years and $45bn+, thank you come again.
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A moon landing still feels so far out of reach, like almost zero (0) progress has been made since 2020 and the covid era
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https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/2027411426805940425
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Just leave all the Moon stuff to Elon already.
#AbolishNASA #lol #lmao
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>>16921562
kek okay sometimes the gay little spitter posts are funny, I’ll admit
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>>16921555
>like almost zero (0) progress has been made since 2020 and the covid era
There's been zero progress made since Constellation was first conceived, Orion hasn't even flown crew yet and it was proposed 20 years ago.
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>>16921555
>>16921573
your definition of zero and progress is useless and therefore wrong.
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>>16921573
Blackpillllll. Yeah. Starship has made SOME progress, from starhopper to full stacks. But it hasn’t even reached orbit yet. It’s like saying Ares I-X made progress
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>>16921547
>blue origin
>>we're in
Like fuck they are.
Blue has 3 versions of a lander and no concrete plan to field them
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>>16921575
what progress are you talking about?
>muh reusability
has changed nothing.
>b-but muh starlin-
Not. Spaceflight.
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>>16921579
Orion, Starship, Blue Moon, SLS, Axiom suits are all real hardware when they weren't 20 years ago which is all the pieces required.
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>>16921581
You’re just taking the piss mate, these things are NOT ready
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>>16921576
>But it hasn’t even reached orbit yet.
ffs would you fags stop with this garbage? please.
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>>16921582
I didn't say they were.
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>>16921583
nope, I will keep bullying muskrats with basic facts until your god emperor stops lying and finally does what he set out to do.
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>>16921584
Oh gotcha—so we have managed to make ground testing articles over the last 20 years, whereas fifty years ago Apollo was able to conjur flight-usable hardware from scratch over only a 4 year period.
We can basically land on the Moon tomorrow if we wanted to, right??
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>>16921583
What’s your excuse then? Starship barely flies these days and things are so dire it’s mission objectives have reverted to “don’t explode this time!”
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>>16921588
Yes it's terrible we have wasted so much time and money.
No we can't do it tomorrow but we have a good shot of doing it before 2030
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>>16921514
You've seen it down at kennedy
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>>16921587
you dont even understand what basic facts are. you're too stupid and poisoned with TDS. its rotted your mind.

>>16921589
doesn't need an excuse. you think it does because you also fit into the above description.
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total gateway death
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https://x.com/FelixSchlang/status/2027441843600769439
>The chopstick simulators are being attached around V3 SN1 (Ship 39) currently, time for a squeeze test!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
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>>16921609
is this the same like when you start out with just a few gentle feels of a girl to see if she's ready for the heavier groping?
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>>16921538
It's not even about jobs. It's about getting contracts for companies in their districts that donate to their campaigns. These politicians don't give a fuck whether someone is employed or working a "good-paying" job LMAO
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NRHO IS CANCELLED
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>>16921620
gateway and the exploration upper stage actually being fully dead is unclear still, I think congress needs to amend or cancel some bills to do that
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>HLS docks with Orion in LEO
Errmmm hello?? Just use Dragon now lol
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>>16921624
the point is to test Orion docking and other systems safely
I guess it also makes it easier for SpaceX and BO (no need to get the landers to moon orbit, whatever that may be, so no need for a bunch of refueling launches)
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Why not cancel Artemis? And use the money to for social equity programs instead of giving the money to problematic billionaires?
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>>16921542
actually it only requires 1 depot refueling
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>>16921625
>the point is to test Orion docking and other systems safely
that's what jared wants congress and locksneed to think, yes
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>>16921628
Okay but do you send 15 tankers to the depot still? P.S. This is presumably for what is now Artemis IV. Idc about Sharty3 and any dumb LEO operations
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Just leave the heat shield on Starship and use it for the whole mission.
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>>16921630
the depot shall always be topped off in between operational starlink launches
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>>16921632
OK whatever bro
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Interesting, this image appears to show a starship with a full heatshield in the lunar vicinity.
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It'd be a lot easier to plan for a moon landing if you didn't have to bring the people back. What if the Artemis-4 crew just stay up there?
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>>16921602
>TDS
what? lol you're so butthurt you can't even get your meme terms right
keep coping muskrat, you're an embarrassment and a funny one at that.
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The fact remains, would it not be simpler to use Starship V3, as is, for the entire lunar landing? If we just want speed, how is engineering an entire bespoke HLS Starship going to be faster? Sure you take a payload hit, but NASA wasn't even utilizing the full payload anyway in all their planning. It would essentially take the same amount of refuel flights, and you get less than 60% fuel margin (boohoo). and if the heatshield is truly Mars-return-capable, then it's Moon return capable
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>>16921448
So this whole shit show is trump's fault.
How predictable
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>>16921639
Actually it's the democrat jared isaacman fault. trump tried to get rid of him
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>>16921636
I support an all-woman crew!
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>>16921637
everyone knows that, like with AIDS from HIV, EDS develops from TDS.
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>>16921638
?
Do you think HLS Starship is completely separate from everything SX are currently working on, including v3?
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>>16921637
I would let musk fuck my entire family up the ass
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>>16921636
>Building a Moon base because you can't be bothered to bring them back
How can we convince politicians of this? Some clever budgeting to make it look cheaper?
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>>16921644
yes, because it has no flaps, no heatshield, special landing thrusters. the current starship testing includes none of that. and changes that drastic are not going to be implemented and production-ready quickly. V3 at least already exists, youve seen it down at Boca Chica
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>>16921627
you have said the absolute truth
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>>16921649
v3 is still 90% of the fucking work
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>>16921651
well mk3 was supposed to go orbital in 2019 and we all know how that went
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>>16921656
I’m not making excuses for their ass-sitting, I’m just pointing out that if you get v3 working all you have to do is take off the flaps on the upper stage and put some superdracos in or whatever. It’s minimal work. Finalizing SS that can actually go orbital is a majority of the work here; HLS is the final 5% push with little trinkets
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>>16921382
"We" being wumao who want to beat America back to the Moon
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>>16921250
retard
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>>16921627
if you want money for the middle class, elect someone from the middle class instead of a billinaire retard
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I like Jared but sorry, how is ordering 100 SLS launches anywhere close to “based”
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>>16921672
>block 1b is canceled
There is going to be as many SLS launches as there is SRBs left and then it's done for.
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>>16921659
if
Just get it working
was the goal
It would have been doing orbital launches a long time ago
They are trying to make the best rocket they can
>>
MY FUCKING GOAT


YES YES YES
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>>16921679
not the absolute best, but something that is pretty good and fully reusable
instead of just getting something to orbit, the goal is to have a fully reusable rocket that has good payload
V3 will probably stay somewhat "frozen" for a while before bigger changes into v4 or whatever so they can actually start doing HLS and launching payloads
but doing that before you have a system that works as a reusable system would be somewhat pointless, they already have F9 to launch mass into orbit
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>>16921659
Rockets are not Legos. How many times do you need that explained to you?
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>>16921685
this is a lie rocket engineers tell you to keep the gravy train going
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>>16921685
seethe
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>>16921682
the EDS crowd simply wont allow themselves to understand the point you're making. they may be too far gone in their madness to be capable of doing so.
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>>16921680
At least we got one positive thing out of the entire admin being jewish
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>>16921682
just put the starlinks in the bag
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>>16921693
a fully and rapidly reusable rocket is required for that
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>>16921682
to expand on the point and make it even clearer
SpaceX could have made starship v2 in a way that the upper stage is expendable
but would that be cheaper than the current F9? I highly doubt it, not for a very long time in the very least
so it would be basically pointless from the POV of launching a bunch of starlinks (has to be cheaper than F9 or it doesn't make sense) or a permanent lunar presence
getting to orbit would have slowed down the development for no benefit when the goal is the get to a fully and rapidly reusable launch system that enables much cheaper cost of payload to orbit compared to their current already existing launch system (Falcon 9)
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>>16921659
Every other time some was flippantly described as
>all we have to do is X
it added another year to the timeline
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https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2027481097240777111
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>>16921726
fuuuuuck Im cash poor rn
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>>16921726
Elon goes to prison for investor fraud.
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>>16921726
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_68a0019e-43cc-4168-8fd2-f4a8b81d7309
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>>16921726
SpaceX will go bankrupt within a year. Retail investors cannot stomach every single rocket blowing up. Trillions in losses
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>>16921726
How will this help starship
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>>16921738
more cash to speed things up
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Elon 2002-2018: SpaceX will never go public
Elon 2019-2024: SpaceX will only go public when Mars flights are regular.
Elon 2026: We're going public now, Mars is a shithole. Moon for the next ten years lol
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>>16921345
>https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/nasa-shakes-up-its-artemis-program-to-speed-up-lunar-return/
>Berger article
>EUS and Block IB SLS cancelled
>possible Centaur V upper stage for AIV+
>Artemis III LEO mission, 2027
>Artemis IV landing, 2028
>annual missions
>possibly trending towards Gateway cut in favor of surface base
>>16921741
>Mars is a shithole. Moon for the next ten years lol
This but unironically
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>>16921740
SpaceX has a cash flow problem.

Admitting the truth is the first step toward recovery.
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>>16921734
looks like StarLink is Cat5 rated
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>>16921415
Why don't we visit the surface of the sun yet?
>>
Fellow homos (sapien), how does it feel to be the only intelligent life in the visible universe?
>>
Rocket Lab launch to test a scramjet in T-15m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQru-Ol7DWU
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>>16921757
Whales are intelligent.
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>>16921760
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>>16921757
>intelligent
What gave you that impression?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQru-Ol7DWU
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1oJMvRvAQwRxQ
Rocket Lab launching a suborbital hypersonic mission in T-5:00
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>>16921771
HOOOOOOOLD
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mhmm mhmm mhmm
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>>16921771
Maybe Beck called it electron because it’s grounded all the time
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>>16921771
more speed less haste
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>>16921771
That's not a rocket launch.
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2027503513803108548
>I guess we know who successfully placed the anti-SpaceX provision in the Cruz reauthorization legislation for NASA.
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>>16921787
There is some real benefit in having multiple launch providers though. If one has a mishap and gets grounded you've always got a backup option.
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>>16921787
Does NASA have some clause where after you serve as administrator you have to go on to become a faggot?
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>>16921790
?
If theres 1 mishap out of 1,000 launches, you can just not ground the whole fleet for no reason?

Does NASA exist merely to keep a buncha contractors in business?
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>>16921790
that doesn't require a 50% value cap
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>>16921740
Throwing money at starship won't speed it up
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>>16921801
it means they can start working on more stuff simultaneously
won't speed up when it becomes operational, but could very well speed up the ramp in cadence and speed up the factories etc needed for the payloads
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>>16921787
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2027512151405998173
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>>16921809
The future is Starship and New Glenn anyways. Those billions being thrown at shitty providers (who can’t deliver) would be better spent by giving it to SX and Blue and asking for deep-space capable vehicles for crew and cargo
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>>16921773
(due to high level winds, ironic for a hypersonic test flight...)
counting down again, T-40m
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>>16921771
>suborbital
starship moment
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>>16921819
then
>bezo can't get it up
>elon goes to orbit
now
>bezo goes to orbit
>elon can't get it up
crazy
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>>16921820
>bezos builds a new rocket in 2026 that can't compete with an F9 on cost

crazy?
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>>16921726
I only hate that xAI is tied to this. Grok is such a lackluster LLM compared to its competitors.
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>>16921822
new glenn doesn't compete with f9 it's a more general purpose fh/ less autistic starship
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>>16921822
>muh cost
Meanwhile, New Glenn has a 100% launch success rate.
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>>16921826
Get real nigga
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>>16921824
? Of course it competes? How do you think a space company makes any money? Endless government launches forever & ever?
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>>16921742
I honestly don't see what convinces people Mars is a better first target than the Moon. The only one I can understand is that it's a better place to not put all our eggs into one basket, but there's not a lot of Earth extinction events that also wipe out the Moon.
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>elong builds a new rocket in 2010 that can't compete with a Soyuz on cost
just why even bother? Let's cede space to the russian
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>>16921829
it's a different architecture. might as well say f9 can't compete with electron on cost
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'competition' is an outdated term.
we are barreling towards corporate States.
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>>16921832
It is electron that can't compete with the F9, outside of the small sat payload market to unique orbits

>>16921830
Earth after an "extinction event" is still more inhabitable than mars..
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>>16921830
>Carbon
>Normal daylight
>Atmosphere is better for equipment than hard vacuum
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>>16921839
Oh I forgot
>Abundant water
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>product can't compete
>oh except when it can
what an incredible argument.
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>>16921814
another FUCKING hold
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will we see deployment video of this retarded Australian 3D printed hydrogen hypersonic tech demo scam? 'Mate?
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>>16921841
???
They are all in making a new rocket for a reason??? Electron is not profitable to operate
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When the SLS is finally exposed worldwide for the 15+ year deception it was,....
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>>16921841
I'm the fastest shit eater in the nation. No one can eat shit faster than me. Number 1 shit eater, excellent
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>>16921849
>finally exposed worldwide
nobody gives a shit, boing and locksneed know they will never face any social scrutiny.
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HASTE is GO for the last attempt of the day.
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>>16921842
T-14m (until the final hold and abort)
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>>16921787
I look forward to the accounting games NASA will play to avoid this
They'll probably do some ridiculous shit like awarding contracts before and after the fiscal year turnover, ghost missions like Veritas, and more
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if the US is fine with Boeing making all of our big commercial jets, then we should be fine with spacex making all of the rockets?
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the lady on the left has incredible facial structure
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>>16921859
Me when I see Ana Kasparian
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30 sec
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FUCKING FINALLY
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Decollage
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that was a pretty aggressive pitch and roll we saw there
uhhh....
did something happen?
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>>16921838
That depends on the type of extinction event, but it's true most would still leave something in decent condition. It's why if something did wipe out civilization on Earth that would be a colonization target.
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>>16921867
Was probably meant to get the hypersonic ramjet vehicle on the correct trajectory.
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>>16921355
>or both
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>>16921830
The moon is an arid, airless, carbonless shithole
Mars has plenty of carbon and water, and a little bit of atmosphere which you can compress and use as a resource. The sand is normal sand, not jagged microparticles of glass that will fuck up everything.
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>>16921790
True, but this is still affirmative action for competitors.
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The bkackpill'ers are trying really hard to skip past the fact that in effect the only thing that happened to the Lunar landing was changing the name from Artemis III to IV.
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>>16921897
>erm if anything all Jared did was add another mission!
Stop acting like things are a-okay you half glass full fag
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>>16921897
I know he said we're increasing cadence but lets be real, adding another SLS flight before landing is pushing landing back
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>>16921900
Because you said so.
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>>16921611
I wouldn't know what that's like
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>>16921917
You aren't missing anything desu just future pain and suffering
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>>16921924
Bah humbug so drunk I got word filtered!
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>>16921924
Is the top one from the episode where Archer gets space dementia and forgets everything at the end of each day, so T'Pol becomes his wife to look after him and they retire to some planet?
I've heard of this one but haven't seen it.
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>>16921926
Yes and it's good
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>>16921925
>not primitively word filtering your own posts
couldn't be me desuwa senpai
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baseduz
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For All Mankind (SENPAI)
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>>16921935
The infamous NASA facility Fort Föurch0n
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>>16921366
They are so fucked it's not even funny
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>And then he said he wanted us to cut the SLS build time down from 3 years to 10 months
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Guys, stop spreading misinfo
EUS, Block 1b, Gateway are not cancelled, because only congress can cancel them. NASA would be literally breaking the law if it halts these programs.
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why the chinese bois salty tho
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Aren't there only a handful of SLS engines available and they can't build more?
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>>16921946
They might be able to fish out some of the Challenger engines from the bottom of the Gulf
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>>16921947
there are perfectly good RS25s collecting dust in some boring museum. I vote we rip them off so we can do apollo 9 take 2 sooner
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>>16921945
I can't read that shit what does it say?
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>>16921924
>slightly-aged T'Pol
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>>16921952
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this shit looks cursed
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>>16921956
aeiou
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>>16921956
SOVL
>>16920583
sovlless
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>>16921956
what game
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>>16921946
they are making new rs-25E's right now
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>>16921956
Where's all the shit you need to land these fuckin cans
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>>16921956
john madden john madden john madden john madden
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>>16921956
we're whalers on the moon
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>>16921956
I would not drive one of those stupid cars
I'd rather walk, or just jump where I need to go.
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>>16921944
Here's the thing: Jared already won over Congress. That fat disgusting retard David needs to kill himself NOW
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Can't help but notice Gateway wasn't mentioned at all, and isn't even in the new renders.

It's over... (good)
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>>16921980
what will they do with it? there are at least two station modules already completed.
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>>16921982
david willis is going to eat shit
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>>16921979
Why are these people so fixated on this expendable piece of shit?
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>>16921982
They'll convert them into public toilets at Kennedy
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>>16921980
They'll discuss it in the coming weeks
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>>16921985
his brain is probably overrun with preons
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>>16921980
Is there a link to the renders?
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>>16921983
He's been malding all day
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>>16921886
Trust in the serverfarm-made-of-moom meme
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foggy
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>>16921997
We're Moomin' now
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>>16921990
On this page and maybe some more elsewhere

>>16921454
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>>16922033
I should add. You can see Orion docking with Blue Moon and Starship without Gateway present in multiple spots across multiple mission timelines.
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>>16922033
>>16922034
Thanks
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Can someone post a link where NASA said "EUS is cancelled"? Thanks.
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>>16922074
NASA here. EUS is cancel
Lmao
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How many times have EUS and 1b been cancelled?
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>>16922081
>>16921944
>>16921345
All this has happened before, and it will happen again.
"Cancellation" means nothing if Congress just write it into the next authorization or budget bill. And they have and will again.
What they actually need to do is expend some political capital and halt this absurd struggle. End the zombie programs.
Pretending this time it will actually stick is just naive.
They need to win the argument in both houses to stop it, which wouldn't be difficult if the party in control of all three branches gave a shit about space.
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>>16922081
>>16922082
I remember during the DOGE cuts, they just directed the EUS engineers to work on it quietly. Clearly Congress will pull out all the stops to protect this rocket.
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*titanic violins playing in the background*
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>>16922085
>NASA has EDS now
ohnononono musk xisters???
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>>16922097
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>>16922097
Not Spaceflight.
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>space technology is not /sfg/ now
this fucking thread
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>>16922105
it was a fucking antenna retard. We are not derailing the thread into polshit over this.
Cope.
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>>16921985
David Willis (@ThePrimalDino) - Posts - #1 Fan of NASA's

*ick*
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>>16921982
Put them in a museum like the spare Skylab.
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>>16922097
Shaheed means martyr. Don't give him this honor.
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They won't cancel the most energetic rocket ever. And they also can't - it's the law this rocket is built.
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>>16922134
the law can be changed and it can de-facto be cancelled by just stopping work on it and then congress changing the law later
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>>16922134
Laws are for fags, you just break them.
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If you don’t like SLS, you are an enemy of spaceflight.
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>>16922140
no, the contrary
SLS is a massive weight dragging everything down
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>>16922140
I am the enemy
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Earth hosts the only technological life in the galaxy. Perhaps in the observable universe also.
I used to be a Marshead but as ime goes by the more I appreciate Earth for being 1 in 10000000000000000000000
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2027632111264612715
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>>16922140
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>>16922145
JOBS JOBS JOBS. Are you against jobs for Americans? You are the enemy.
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>>16922140
based
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>>16922145
hey! I’m on that list!
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>>16922147
Hand-picked Alabama river rocks (non-reusable)
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>>16921969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVNTNeNMH8Q
You think you can hop better than the best? You'd trip a hundred times going anywhere.
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>>16922144
Yun-Ta Tsai, a senior staff AI engineer at Tesla, made headlines in June 2025 by publicly rejecting a recruitment attempt from Meta. Citing intense loyalty to Elon Musk

*sucking noise*
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>>16922148
exoatmospheric interception kino is back on the menu
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>>16922140
Yes you literally are
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falcon 9 has launched 400 times since the last SLS launch.
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and none of those 400 can do what 1 SLS does
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15 tanker flights
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>>16922182
waste taxpayer money?
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25 flights btw
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30 tons
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1000 cubic square meterfeet of internal volume
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>>16922145
Like wading into a hot south american river and looking at all the dangling leeches on your legs
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>>16922074
Yesterday when Isaacman said they were standardizing SLS to not have custom upper stages and then put out graphics showing SLS using a Centaur V.

see >>16921454
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>>16922182
399 of those were Elon launching his own pay phones.
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>>16922197
It’s not a centaur V in the graphic though
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>>16922197
CV isn't "custom". Vulcan uses it too.
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>>16922189
thats more than 250 elephants
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>>16922199
don't pretend to be retarded

>>16922200
Correct anon, Isaacman said they were >not< going to use custom upper stages.
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2 weeks
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>Firefly in 5hr
>Thread is dead
I guess I'm the last spaceflight enjoyer left in /sfg/
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>>16922230
gimme a link, friend
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>>16922179
Yi Long Ma cannot be allowed to launch American astronauts to the Luna
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>>16922233
Runa
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VwRdui50FY
>NASA chief Jared Isaacman discusses major changes to Artemis program to get it "back on track"
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>>16922232
wow, and he never gave you a link. what a piece of shit that guy is.

nah, he's a great guy.
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>>16922254
he's our space elf
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>>16922084
pretty easy for Boeing to continue working on EUS at the same pace when that pace was not doing anything
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why use sls for putting Orion in LEO
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>>16922277
It shouldn't and it makes more sense to offload it to Vulcan or New Glenn but whatver, I think using SLS keeps Congress le happy and it somehow leads to Jared's goal of launching SLS more often. I think Jared naively thinks they can and should get Space Launch System Block 1.1 (or whatver it will be called) to shuttle-tier launch cadence where they are launching once every three or four months. Obviously this should not and is not going to happen, but a man with big ears can have big dreams
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>>16922254
sucks that it took so fucking long to get this guy into office
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>>16922277
Because they need to increase its launch cadence dramatically.
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well, I guess RIP Iran's space program
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>>16922277
34 tons all up. Nothing else man rated can lift that.
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>>16922277
Because it can't go to the moon anyway
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>>16922287
Falcon heavy can lift 64 tons, just man rate that. And Starship can lift 200...
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>>16922298
>200
lol
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>>16922300
best not bring up the low figures from development models tranny... Everyone knows that v4 will be 200~
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>>16922298
Do this thing that hasn't happened and wont. Because I love Elon just that much.

Yikes.
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remember gray dragon?
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>>16922306
starship happened
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remember San Pedro
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Remember the Firefly launch of today?
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>>16922306
Remember this other thing that doesn't exist?
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remember when SpaceX announced a 64 ton rated PAF
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falcon 5
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No I don't remember, grandpa.

*lights campfire* tell us about it. *prepares the s'mores*
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>>16922298
Starship can lift 200 metric tons. Of bananas.
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>>16922287
>nothing man rated

What a meaningless qualifier and desperate straw grasp.
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>>16922287
human-rated sweetie
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>>16922330
What a meaningless qualifier
Because I say it's meaningless

Doesn't work that way.
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>human rated
>human rated
>human rated
Where's the huwoman rated craft Elon?
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meanwhile, spektreworks is slapping starlink(starshield?) mini dishes on their shahed clones.
is starshield literally just starlink but only for DOD?
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>>16922333
Elon himself isn't human rated.
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>>16922333
It’s called FSD Tesla
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>>16922334
Nah, one of the benefits of doing government work is getting access to military frequencies

They are likely MUCH higher performance than starlink
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>kairos in 3hrs
>/sfg/:*crickets*
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>>16922337
must be nice to test out beam strength changes with the military before trying to get permission to do it with the commercial constellation
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>>16922338
falcon-1-itus
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>>16922338
if it's not listed in https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/ how the fuck was I supposed to know about it
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>>16922343
By using the superior site
https://nextspaceflight.com/
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>>16922343
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>>16922345
Clear is too powerful in 3D
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Grok?

Human-rated launch vehicles are certified rockets designed with enhanced safety, redundancy, and reliability to transport humans into space. Key operational systems include SpaceX’s Falcon 9 (Crew Dragon), while upcoming systems include NASA’s SLS (Orion), Boeing’s Starliner, and India’s Human-Rated LVM3 (HRLV). These vehicles feature abort systems and stringent structural requirements

India human rated. FH isn't. Neither is Starship.
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>>16922344
thanks
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>>16922332
It's meaningless because its just paperwork, "they aren't human rated" is just desperation on your part.
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>>16922337
More likely exactly same performance, but it's not like they're clogged up by consumer traffic.
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I think NASA needs to get back to the basics in launching monkeys for test flights of crew hardware
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>1019
>more posts than an Starship launch sticky
Is /sfg/ alive?
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>>16922357
5 day old thread.
4chan is slowly dying in general
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>>16922357
The SLS announcement brought some of the oldheads back
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>>16922298
I mean, you are correct. The 100-150 ton to LEO is just a metric for the reusable configuration. You could expend the whole Starship+SuperHeavy and be able to lift 200+ tons, many people forget that.
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>>16922365
Sure it can. May we see that demonstrated?
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>>16922358
There's also a SLS splinter thread bleeding off some posts.
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>>16922352
Not just "paperwork". Deferment cert process. Please don't post if you don't know anything about the topic. FUD thee not.
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>>16921021
She has nice hair, I guess. But she also has some severe facial asymmetry. I would be embarrassed to go out with her in public.
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>>16922372
You could have her wear a mask on half her face.
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>>16922338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfexN0a5mAo
>Live: KAIROS Flight 3 Launch (No Commentary)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxG5A5D5638
>{Kairos] Space One Kairos 3 launch live commentary

>T-55:00

Hold on, I just got back from work
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>>16922333
If a human were to sit atop of a Falcon Heavy right now it would kill them instantly. That's the Musk personal touch.
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China is going to win to be honest. The chad five year plan mogs the American popularity contest method.
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No Active Certification: SpaceX has not pursued human-rating certification for Falcon Heavy.

Focus on Starship: SpaceX shifted focus to Starship, making the costly redesign or qualification of Falcon Heavy for humans unnecessary.

Starslip will be the death of SpaceX.
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https://x.com/Kairos_SPACEONE/status/2027921403966902525
>Pre-launch Information for Kairos No. 3: Kairos No. 3 was scheduled for launch on March 1, 2026, at 11:00:00, but based on the results of weather analysis, today's launch has been canceled. The new launch schedule will be announced as soon as it is determined.
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>>16922387
"We apologize to the Emperor for our failure. Sumimasen."
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>starlink in 7hrs
>/sfg/ is asleep
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>>16921956
Chuckle brother looking ahh rover.
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staging

>>16922403
>>16922403
>>16922403
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>>16922399
Jared is very polite
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>>16921958
kek
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>>16922337
>>16922353
I wonder what the latencies are for those in military, if they hit sub 10 ms latency because infinite frequency allocation allows infinite number of bandwidth space
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>>16922809
Latency is much the same, available bandwidth is the difference.
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>>16922814
nah, there's a hard physics latency and compute latency, thats probably ~10ms or so, and then there's scheduling distribution that affects majority of the latency people see as their packets are distributed, delayed, smoothed out over time period so as to not cause congestion.

Its called TDMA
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>>16922822
and I bet internally spacex has multiple options to change the scheduling of the packets as well for various tasks, some can be first come first serve for the lowest possible latency, others can be buffered out for smoothness and compute efficiency
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>>16922354
anon we dont call black people that nowadays

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