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"Hey hey' *starts to cry*

>>16922403
>no JAXA rover pictured
uh oh

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Alright stop, collaborate and listen
Issc is back with my brand new invention

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Centaur V? Are they out of their Vulcan mind?

>>16922409
How are they going to pull this off with Vought trying to strangle NASA

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Cancel Artemis
Mass produce Dragonflies
Permanent human base at Titan

>>16922411
Those 10 Starship launches are absolutely impossible. The 3 NG might happen.

>>16922414
>Those 10 Starship launches are absolutely impossible
Aren't we on the 34th test flight

>>16922415
15 months to complete all the Starship and Moonship development, plus another 10 for the A3 LEO.

>>16922409
Will SpaceX still be doing that uncrewed HLS test landing between III and IV?

does Holden Bloodfeast support SLS?

HLS will never happen

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>>16922403
Business idea:

>>16922420
Only kinetic E2E applications

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The real reason human spaceflight will fail, something everyone is missing, is that it literally makes you schizo.
https://x.com/i/status/2026654828676415560
Every astronaut eventually goes cuckoo for cocoa puffs

>>16922418
There's chatter at NSF that those 10 launches to fuel HLS after A3 and send it off for a test landing.

hot take, issacman is in the pit of stupidity of his bravery in challenge the status quo, he needs to go a step further and just cancel SLS. it's not like following congress is a thing nowadays

>>16922430
Void madness! Many such cases.

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China only had a single launch in February and they don't seem to have any launches lined up in March. What happened? Is the Chinese collapse finally happening?

>>16922437
What a launch
What a landing

https://youtu.be/aezcXjKYZkM?t=500
Does anyone have the full show Galileo antenna show?

>>16922424
cuck karts

https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/the-air-forces-new-icbm-is-nearly-ready-to-fly-but-theres-nowhere-to-put-them/

>>16922432
That sounds retarded. The last thing he needs is to paint a target on his back in the coming years.

>>16922447
When did they rename the Minuteman IV?

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>kairos cancelled due to winds being too low compared to what was anticipated

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>>16922456
>wind = scrub
>not enough wind = scrub
What do they want

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cryo testing

>>16922458
The right wind

>>16922456
unironically how is that a problem?

>>16922461
It isn't a fucking sailboat just send the goddamn thing

>>16922459
inb4 it pops

>>16922412
It wouldn't look like that btw. If you actually lived on Titan you'd probably want to kill yourself

>>16922430
>NASA/Boeing Starship mishap
huh?

>>16922430
>>16922434
We clearly need more crewed missions farther from Earth's sanity field to figure out how to deal with void madness. If I were the head of a space agency I would be sending one way trips to Saturn before 2026 ends.

>>16922456
I watched the scrub and they didn't say that at all. You sure you didn't get confused?

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Am I going crazy here, flight 12 is totally happening this month
wtf do these people know that I dont

>>16922492
More likely to be late April than any time in March.

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>>16922487
Faith is the only sure protection against the whispers of the void

>>16922493
sheiiii
they're testing the fuck out of it aren't they

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>>16922493
>>16922495
anyway I'm not selling fuck it, might actually buy some more at this price and take the gamble
launch.live still has it March

>>16922496
>anyway I'm not selling fuck it, might actually buy some more at this price and take the gamble
I do not recommend it. It's going to test for a while.

Over at NSF, they're discussing using a Super Heavy mod as Depot. Not sure what that gains SpaceX over using a Starship mod:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50157.msg2764897;topicseen#new

>>16922492
sls and starship are both NET april

>>16922499
More volume.

>>16922499
SSTO super heavy?

>>16922513
Stack two heavies

So when the fuck is anything launching????? I've been OOL. Why is nothing happening? Any dates anyone?

>>16922518
SpaceX is going a lot further to make sure everything on Starship V3 actually works. They've been building new test stands for it and everything. Pad 2 looks just about ready. Probably a few weeks of testing everything and then they're going to try to launch.

>>16922518
NASA has only launched SLS once three years ago and don't remember how to do anything. SpaceX can't afford another fuck up and are being extra careful.

>>16922451
>Minuteman IV
>man
That's why, probably a tranny forced the rename

>>16922451
From its inception. Sentinel was never named Minuteman and has no design or engineering heritage from the Minuteman.

Starlink

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1AxRnaZZAPVxl

>>16922529
not watching it lol

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>>16922525
Minutemaam IV

>>16922529
Not Spaceflight.

Another one

Webcast end without comment on the initial orbit state.

>>16922539
thanks for the play-by-play

>>16922541
Starshield launch

>>16922552
More like Shartshilled

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Partially reusable, Crew rated Orion launcher (CROL): Super Heavy first stage, enlarged Falcon upper stage with a cluster of Merlin 1D Vacs.
Thoughts?

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2028066702865686588
25 Starlinks deployed.
>>16922558
Would over-G the EUS. New Glenn is being looked at instead.

>>16922562
They really are the tortoise aren't they

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How big is our cargo advantage compared to the Chinese?

>>16922573
how is it that the chinese rocket can go directly to the moon but sls cant?

>>16922575
VERY long story short, Orion is a lot heavier because during the Constellation program the Earth Departure Stage was envisaged to get Orion to the moon and insert it into lunar orbit, so the service module is underpowered. But we cancelled the EDS and Altair lander and left Orion as is. As a result it can only get into NRHO.

>>16922354
It's called Artemis

>>16922414
>NG can definitely make 3/3 lunar landings after two semi-successful launches
>Impossible for SpaceX with over 600 successful commercial launches to do orbital refueling
kill yourself, retard

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>comparing a flight proven rocket to one that can't even get it up (to orbit)
muskrats truly are the lowest form of life on earth.

>>16922583
it's a good thing we have two big space companies working on low boil off and cryo transfers. Hopefully there is some kind of knowledge sharing here so we can further accelerate this innovation.

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>>16922410
Question: in the past, NASA put out a request for contractors to submit their offers for possible Exploration Upper Stage replacements to alleviate time and costs.
They laughed at the BO offer and told BO to get fucked. How does Centaur V not also have this issue??
Will they not have to
a) heavily modify the VAB,
and b) unfortunately, construct a THIRD trillion-dollar launch tower for SLS because the new M2 will be completely incompatible?

>>16922403
Well it's a shame that sls wasn't outright cancelled, but I'll take gateway being taken out behind the shed and shot.

Cancel Gatew— oh…

>>16922406
>from 2 and a half to 5 months between launches to hopefully 1 a year
That's kind of pathetic. At this point they should just ask SpaceX (and maybe Blue) to launch everything.

>>16922591
Centaur uses the RL10 which has very low thrust (<25k lbf). The truth is they just designed Orion with comical levels of rigidity and pork.

>>16922424
we need vampires to invent mechahorses first

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>>16922406
>more capable than all others
>cheaper than shuttle and SLS
>extremely high launch cadence
We could have literally just skipped shuttle and kept flying Saturn and it would have been cheaper and better.

>>16922593
Next on the agenda: cancel Starship.

Somebody explain to me how boeing is going to do one SLS launch a year when they so far have only manged to do one in a decade?

>>16922597
I understand that reference. Also need classical radio antennas and gothic rockets.

>>16922488
I listened to the post-scrub news conference as an EOP and translated some of the reactions to it on X and that was the impression I got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlseE8raJ6w

This morning some actual articles are out.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4e42ad8d8cd061b4a1c40b78e4d250cc00c1226f
>Rocket launch canceled due to "weak" winds. On the 1st, private rocket company Space One explained that the launch of the third small rocket, Kairos, was canceled 30 minutes before the scheduled launch, saying, "The winds were weaker than expected at an altitude of around 10 kilometers, where air resistance becomes stronger." You might think, "If the winds are weak, then surely it's safe?" but it seems it's not that simple.
>According to Kozo Abe, head of public relations at Space One, strong westerly winds (jet streams) tend to occur in the winter, and the flight path was determined based on past data on this, but on the 1st, the weather conditions were like those of early spring, and the winds weakened.
>Abe explained, "For example, we estimated the headwind to be 60 meters per second, but it was actually only about 30 meters per second, so there was a huge discrepancy."
>The problem with wind is not the strength of the wind, but rather the difference from what was expected. Even a slight change in the way the wind hits a long, slender rocket can change the way it sways and the forces acting on it, and if it moves in an unexpected way, there is a risk that the separation points of the stages could be damaged.
>The decision was made 30 minutes before launch because the wind conditions in the sky need to be confirmed by observations immediately before launch. Space One is considering the 4th as the earliest date for its next launch.

>>16922599
if only

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>>16922599
It's not cheaper but yes if we kept using it eventually it would have been. Check this out: LOX tank that acts as a pneumatic piston to keep the orientation of the stage upright so the engines wouldn't touch the saltwater.

>>16922632
>It's not cheaper
Shuttle was more

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Chinese research team has pinpointed stable water-ice regions at the lunar south pole, which serve as candidate landing areas for this year's mission.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/ae3c86

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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2028006222419447947
>Starship 39 during cryo proof testing tonight at Starbase Massey's test site in preparation for upcoming Starship test flight 12. This is the first Version 3 Starship.

>>16922583
Here's why Elon launching his own pay phones on a F9.to LEO is the same thing as launching a reusable Starship to the Moon. Herp Derp!

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https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2028132070883463187

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https://x.com/FelixSchlang/status/2028130406785048897
>Blue Origin acquired the old Cocoa site where SpaceX built the Florida Mk2 Starship back in the day.
>Cleanup has already started!

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>>16922675
https://x.com/John_Winkopp/status/2027854860171739608
>Work to prep the Cidco Road Facility has already begun days after Blue Origin purchased the former SpaceX Starship facility in Cocoa Florida. 1st picture shows the site at the peak of production just before the end of Starship production in Florida.

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>>16922676
https://x.com/John_Winkopp/status/2027859241273376822
>Building Starships out in the open at a muddy-mosquito infested facility just one reason SpaceX gained so many fans.

I love how Musk's approach is just add more engines and stretch the boosters

>>16922675
copycat

>>16922577 #
"Altair -- now that's a name I've not heard in a long time..."

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https://x.com/FireflySpace/status/2028135477467885579
>The Alpha Flight 7 team is working through the final steps ahead of the Stairway to Seven as we continue to monitor high upper-level winds. Our two-hour launch window for the test flight opens at 4:50 pm PT tonight, and our livestream co-hosted with NASAspaceflight will begin 20 minutes before liftoff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4UXqDhfEbw

>>16922577
It can only get to NRHO if it's launched on a two-stage rocket like SLS. That's where a lot of the issues really come from; Artemis is trying to handle a large, high-energy mission in a single shot on a two stage rocket. If you put it on top of a three stage rocket, like a New Glenn 9x4 with a transfer stage, it can get all the way to low lunar orbit without Orion needing to touch its own propellant.

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Instead of doing their work, the substitute teacher shows a movie. You don't hate NASA nearly enough.

>>16922702
why are you so angry?

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>>16922702
We may not be returning to the Moon anytime soon but the tortoises are getting returned.

>>16922707
NASA can do more than 1 thing at a time.

>>16922705
JPL is firing thousands of employees because they're failing to win or perform on contracts. Maybe focus on that problem instead of having more play days.

>>16922712
no, they were being fired because Miller is fucking evil

>>16922708
nasa can't even do one thing

>>16922707
based, I love tortoises

>>16922708
i can pat my head and rub my belly at the same time but that doesn't mean i should play with tortoises.

>>16922717
fuck off troll

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WTF NOT AGAIN

>>16922723
you scared me anon phew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

>>16922723
cryo me a river

>>16922723
based alternate-reality poster

>>16922672
Is that the stubby ship that people were talking about?

>>16922424
space suits for horses

>>16922736
Goodbye Horses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIr9IDXFfA

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>>16922707
So Blue Origin was referring about this? When is SpaceX going to return the Ocelot to Boca Chica?

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>>16922744

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bXB6LP2T_A
>Ship 39 survives its first test | SpaceX Starbase

>>16922733
its the same ship

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another firefly failure in 5 hours btw

Oh yeah. NASA pitched this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3R_OvX9i7k&pp=0gcJCb4KAYcqIYzv

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>>16922751
are they trying to speedrun the world's most unreliable rocket title?

>>16922749
You can't fool me. This ship is clearly much shorter.

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it's clearly a mockup of the Stubby HLS

>>16922768
choad HLS looks good, but no way it has enough dV to get to cislunar space, land and take off with any serious down mass.

>>16922770
even with refueling?

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>>16922737

>>16922776
Probably not. The v3 design is in flux, but the mavens that have crunched some probable numbers can't close on a fueled LEO, Land, Launch, LEO flight. Close but not quite.

>>16922770
Easiest way to make it close is to move the TLI burn to an expended Starship second stage with chodeship on top.

if starship struggles to get to the moon how will it get to mars

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>>16922573
LM-10 with SLS paint job.

>>16922800
Think the difference is aerobraking at Mars. Supposedly.

>>16922791
Could work. 3 stage starship would be kind of an abomination though, and the "everything must be fully reusable" sois would probably have a melty about them discarding stuff.

>>16922800
you're asking too many questions anon ;)
trust musk

>>16922807
if I can't trust Jack In The Box to get my order right how can I trust Elon

>>16922800
early issues dont define late stage operations

>>16922573
>Moon Rockets.jpg
can those rockets go to the moon?

I miss certain anons on this board.
I miss the European schizo who was convinced spacex was a DOD scam to drive ariane out of business.

Somehow Astra is still a company

>>16922839
I miss CostPlusContent :(

>>16922839
And if it was, Ariane deserved it.

>>16922850
He was too based for this world.

>>16922671
and doing fuck all for two decades is the same as landing on the moon
okay, retard

>>16922406
>>16922594
It's easy to meet your goals when the president gives you a blank check to beat the soviets.

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>test launch
>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"
>test launch
>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"
>test launch
>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"
>test launch
>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"
>test launch
>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"
>test launch
>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"

>>16922682
>currently on hold to monitor high upper-level winds
>KAIROS aborted due to LOW upper-level winds
that's it. We need a plan to remove the upper atmosphere.

>>16922665
Do these contain proper ice that you can collect with a shovel, or just shitty hydroxide?

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https://x.com/MattDevittWX/status/2028222519115731164
>HEADS UP! SpaceX rocket launch *tonight* will likely be visible along the US East Coast (weather permitting in your location). Liftoff time is currently scheduled for 9:56 PM with a 90% Go for launch.

Flying an expendable V3 Super Heavy out of Florida on NASA's budget seems like the obvious choice here. Who cares if it is wasted, NASA has effectively unlimited money and it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than a $4 bil SLS launch. Throw a Centaur V on top who cares

>>16922870
congress cares, its not about saving money, its about funneling money to their special interests

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https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2028284078085087339

https://starlink.com/business/mobile

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https://x.com/Starlink/status/2028284498555924671

https://x.com/FireflySpace/status/2028286597758640323
>Alpha Flight 7 has been scrubbed today due to high upper-level winds that exceed FAA safety parameters. The team will work closely with Vandenberg Space Force Base to determine the next available launch date for the Stairway to Seven test flight. Stay tuned for more information.

REMOVE the FUCKING ATMOSPHERE

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https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2028288311098261768
>SpaceX is preparing for its second Falcon 9 rocket launch of the day. Liftoff of the Starlink 10-41 mission from pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station is scheduled for 9:56:40 p.m. EST (0256:40 UTC).

Starlink launch in T-55:00. Vehicle might be visible in flight if you're on the east coast

>>16922880
one of the /sfg/ posts of all time

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>>16922880

>>16922856
You're really impressed by pay phones. You shouldn't be.

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>>16922878
>>16922874

Clear Max-Qute!

another one coming right up

it's that shrimple

uh oh, that doesn't look good

27 launches for spacex and it is March 1st. good/bad?

>>16922903
Excellent, as far as I'm concerned.

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https://x.com/HughE_Dillon/status/2028306647563559017
>Very cool to see Space X Falcon 9 launch fly over Philly 10:05pm

So was anyone else here able to see it?

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>>16922863
>>16922865
I didn't see it :(
Sky was clear, had myself pointed towards Florida but looked around everywhere.
Either I'm too blind too inland (~30mi from SC coast), or too much treeline

>>16922907
Launching this late there wasn't much to see beyond a orange star fighting its way through the ground clutter. I was able to see it for a bit up in Connecticut but there were a few points where it hit some haze and almost faded out completely.

>>16922910
I'm so sorry, anon.

Spacex is a terrestrial telecom company

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I was hoping with the success of Falcon 9 that space colonization would actually become real in my lifetime. But now it's obvious that there will never be any serious space travel until someone figures out what UFOs use for their propulsion.

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>In the 90s we designed a modular planetary probe that could just slam into a planet or moon without a parachute and survive the impact
>It could survive up to 80,000g which means you could even send them to planets or moons with no atmosphere
>The whole program cost $28m and the probes themselves cost less than $100k apiece
>The only time it flew was on the doomed Mars '98 mission so of course it didn't work because Mars '98 was a clusterfuck
>It was promptly forgotten about

TFW we could have tiny probes on every solid body in the solar system but NASA bitched out

>>16922596
They designed Orion specifically so it would be too heavy for any rocket but SLS. NASA didn't want a private company handling spaceflight. They don't even want the ISS to end and let private companies build LEO stations. That's why Gateway isn't officially canceled yet.

QRD on last two months bros please

>>16922947
delays

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>>16922936
That antennae is tiny how does that even work. Also what’s the power source????

>>16922956
Oh I see batteries. Eh

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>>16922956
>>16922957
They were supposed to talk to Mars Global Surveyor over UHF. The probes were battery powered but they carried solar cells to test the viability of future solar powered probes.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/nmp/ds2/pictures/hardware/110598g.html

>>16922939
If they cancel Gateway what the hell are they going to do with that giant propulsion module

>>16922961
Cast it into the fires of mount doom

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>>16922471

tomorrow I have to drive to NASA to do nothing for 8 hours

shit to look forward to:
Starship?
Neutron?
New Glenn reuse?

what else anons

>>16922936
NASA's Deep Space 2 microprobes, due to smash into the surface of Mars near the planet's south pole on Dec. 3, have been named Amundsen and Scott in honor of the first explorers to reach the South Pole of Earth.

Actually remembered that without google.

>>16922986
The NG upgrade with more engines. That could launch some interesting missions.

>>16922986
Within the next year or so:
Artemis II (surely it has to launch eventually)
Relativity Terran R
Stoke Nova
Blue Moon Mk I
Vast Haven 1 launch
Maybe first Dream Chaser launch?
Possibly more Chinese booster landing attempts

>>16922994
>surely it has to launch eventually
You'd be surprised.

>>16922961
Crash it into Tehran

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>>16922961
Using it for what it was supposed to be used, Asteroid Redirect Mission.

>>16922905
No, but then I was asleep and in a completely different country so there wasn't much chance of me seeing it.

>>16922994
>Vast Haven 1 launch
That's been pushed back to 2027, which I guess could still be technically a year away but I kinda doubt it.

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>>16922403
Chinese astronauts conducted an experiment with mice in the Tiangong space station, they found out that those mice had way more babies per preganancy compared with mice on Earth.
So Zero G could help human couples have twins and triplets?

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>>16923119

>>16923119
>>16923121
interesting since there doesn't seem to have been a lot done on this before. ive always been confident that if not freefall/zero G then definitely mars gravity wont pose any issues to human biology including reproduction.

>space force and space command are taking part in the iran war
>but no actions against in space itself were mentioned
i figured they at least jammed some satellites or something, but maybe not

>>16923133
Two Space Force satcom dishes were destroyed.

>cyber command and space command were the first to attack iran, targeting their communication networks
maybe they did jam something

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>>16923134

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https://x.com/Starlink/status/2028459012363309232

>>16923129
Gestation is probably not a problem since the fetus is already floating in amniotic fluid.
The real issue here is what happens after birth.

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>>16923149
https://x.com/SRBednarek/status/2028421851144200589
>Great to be working with so many wonderful partners. Real contracts, not memos of understanding.

>>16923150
>Gestation is probably not a problem since the fetus is already floating in amniotic fluid.
ive seen one study that suggested otherwise in some rats, and theres always the issue of if having a nice 'down' is important for development and especially orientation for a good delivery (head down), but its definitely something that needs proper study

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https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/former-nasa-chief-turned-ula-lobbyist-seeks-law-to-limit-spacex-funding/
>Another former NASA official, Phil McAlister, replied to Bridenstine’s post that it was “disappointing” to see him attach his name to the provision. Instead of promoting competition, McAlister said the new language is actually anti-competitive.
>McAlister and other critics of the provision say no one wants a launch monopoly and that NASA has in fact sought to on-ramp new providers through programs such as its venture class services program that allocates payloads to riskier providers. However, they note, as United Launch Alliance has struggled to bring its Vulcan rocket online over the past five years, SpaceX has stepped up to keep the International Space Station flying and launch critical missions like NASA’s $4 billion Europa Clipper spacecraft.

>>16923163
NASA has only had one (1) good administrator that I can recall, and it’s James Webb.

>>16923133
>>16923134
>>16923135
>>16923139
Not spaceflight.

>>16923135
Iran switched to China's Beidou last year. Can still be jammed just requires a lot of power on the ground

>>16923163
Billy's pimps;

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/firms/summary?id=F331199&year=2025

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>>16923163
This guy is a comic book villain level of corrupt.

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>>16923152
https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/2028501456987263018

>>16923188
Mexican pay phones. That's much more exciting than going to Mars.

>>16923193
People told them to fix Earth first. With Starlink, you can watch internet porn anywhere you want

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>>16923193
this is going to enable mars partly

>>16922403
5 weeks ago Elon Musk said 6 weeks! Starship will launch next week!!

>>16923197
>50 satellites per launch with starship
>mid 2027

>>16923203
Michael Nicolls, senior vice-president for Starlink at SpaceX, said that Starship would be ready in time to launch a new, upgraded constellation of Starlink’s mobile satellites in “mid-2027”.

Hissssss
A COPV waiting to pounce.

>>16923202
A Starship test flight is expected in the next “four to six weeks”, SpaceX’s president Gwynne Shotwell told the FT on the sidelines of the event. Musk had previously suggested in a social media post in January that Starship’s 12th test flight would occur by early March.

Then Gwyn started to cry.

Prediction of the future is the best measure of intelligence.

Nicolls said SpaceX hoped to deploy 1,200 satellites within six months of the launch next year, forming a new constellation with improved networking capabilities.

Sure. That's -- 20 successful Starship launches in 6 months. By the end of 2027. That will happen.

>>16923211
does it have to be orbital to work? starlinks have their own propulsion. can starshit launch them into suborbital and starlinks can coast into orbit on their own power?

Asked whether SpaceX’s priority was to reach the Moon or Mars first, Shotwell said “Elon has talked a lot about the Moon recently, but Mars is his passion,” she said. “Let’s call them co-priorities.”

Then Gwyn started to cry.

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>>16923210
in that case, reddit was right all along. Elon is a moron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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It’s happening! Elon says Starship will reach orbit in 6 months and crewed flight next year!

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>>16923228
Wow. It is really happening.

>>16923228
>>16923233
surely starship will go orbital this year, right?

>>16923213
not enough dv, those things have very very low thrust

>>16923234
If Flight 12 is flawless, maybe. If there are problems, probably not.

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>>16923237
Hi, waiter? Yes I’ll have the grift katamari clankship please!

>>16923237
are those little RVs to open up spes trailer parks?

>>16923228
Green lights to Malibu
Yes, it could have happened with excessive speeding, no traffic and with all the traffic lights on green
In other words, if every idea worked flawlessly on time with no delays, changes or anything it could have maybe possibly happened in that time.
Still, what they have accomplished they have done far faster than anyone has ever done it but still nowhere near as fast as musk would have wanted it