Could use some help with something.

Working on a TTRPG that uses yugioh spells. Could use some help designing NPC spellbooks.

Pick 15 cards from Labyrinth of Nightmare and earlier for someone to carry.

modern yugioh is shit

>>97586013
Are duplicates allowed and if so to what extent?

>>97586101
singles. They can cast the same spell multiple times but only one instance at a time.
Mechanical tl;dr is spend mana to cast spells, rarity impacts cost, monsters also add level to cost. So low level monsters are actually of benefit. Skull Servant is now actually a useful servant

>>97586092
t. competitivefag
I WILL negate your effects and get mad when you negate MY effects

Is master duel a good way to get games in as a beginner?

How similar to the anime is the card game?
Hood rat answers only

>>97586574
Way past cool

How long after a reprint does it usually take for prices to tank? I want more Dominus Impulse.

>>97586657
Yes and no
Master duel does have a fairly good tutorial.
However it still does nothing to prepare you for playing against actual people. And there really isn't anywhere in MD to duel against other newbies or casuals. You're basically just gonna get curbstomped unless you build the current big deck but even then, you lack all the knowledge you really need to play the game well. You won't know when to use your points of interaction.

>>97586957
Honestly I just want to learn to play the game effectively, but not real sure what would be the best option for that beyond going to locals. Not that my locals aren't super inviting and cool with me being new.

>>97586891
The dominus cards are not going to drop in price further (iirc they're like $15-$25 now) unless they're featured in a rarity collection. Ash blossom for example was still a $5 card circa beware of traptrix despite the 6 or so reprints it had gotten by then, because it's valuable. Fuwalos is $15 at the cheapest despite said cheap print being a fucking common.

>>97586092
This
Play goat

Is Blue Eyes White Destiny a good structure deck to get to upgrade into a more powerful Blue Eyes deck?

>>97587666
Yes but wait until I buy my three boxes

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>>97586092
>>97587193

>>97587193
goat is worse

How much should I expect to pay for the Primite cards I want to add to my Blue eyes deck down the road?

>>97586574
More toons would be nice
They could do fusions and synchros and stuff

Also, I'm enjoying the 5D's anime more than I thought I would.

>>97588227
I've been watching the original through a stream and it's alright

>>97588129
About 90 burger bucks

>>97588227
Don't forget to watch Season 4. It never got dubbed but it's pretty readily-available in Japanese.

Unc checking in. Looking into getting back into the game. Maliss looks like a neat deck, is it actually decent and fun to play or am I blinded by the cute girls?

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>>97590469
The deck ended up being so good, KONMAI had to kill it in every single format ala tearlaments, because people just wouldn't drop it. So no, it's not worth building right now, white binder is their best card and it got banned last month.

>>97590562
Would that make it cheap to build for like a kitchen table kinda group?

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>>97590580
Kinda, some guy took it to YCS last week and made it to top 4.

https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ignister-maliss-692797

Everything but hare ($13), fuwalos ($12) and impulse ($22) is cheap.

i have fun playing genesis with friends

Is there any fun sealed project to get just for a weekend of opening packs? I don't plan to go to locals but I might just open to try to sell (maybe probably not)

Are GMX good for Dinos or is the best dinos still Jurrac Dino? I'm retarded and have a playset of all the expensive dino pieces and I need something for casuals.

>>97590712
Based. Finally someone who likes the game of Yu-gi-oh in this thread.

>>97590906
I really want to like the cards, but KONMAI made damn sure they were underwhelming.
>even if kimridge were level 3 (so you could cheat it out with e-tele), his search triggers when revealed, not summoned
>noma is a reptile, so not searchable, but even if she were she does fuck all
>selande is a fucking warrior for some reason (this is bad because 3 + ROTA is a mere 4 copies, were he a dino you'd have at least 6)
>velox is just a quick effect pop + follow up
Daneen, experiment and allos are the only truly good cards. Still, this is their first wave, and we all know how mitsubishi turned out, so i can't really be that harsh on them. I'd pick them up anyways since all the cards cost pennies.

>>97591175
yeah me too but I can't really see any kinda neat stuff they do with dinos unless I'm missing something like dinos right now are below rogue right?

>>97591219
>dinos right now are below rogue right?
Yes. Rogue tier is specifically for decks that see fleeting tournament representation. Dinos don't see tournament play at all right now, therefore they're below Rogue.

>>97591369
:(

>>97591175
>KONMAI
>con me
Freudian slip

is fire kings shit nowadays? bought 3 structure decks on a whim from a local store. not intending to do tournaments or anything since no real local scene.

also ordered my ojama deck on paper w/ slight modifications, i love those little cretins

>>97589890
I'm watching the whole thing subbed.

So just out of curiousity. I know a few years ago it was decent, but could I build something good out of the Yusei Deck in the 5Ds legendary decks?

>>97591998
They're not great, but all things considered, they're in a good state. Fire King Jurrac is a pretty common combo in Genesys, and some of that tech does carry over to Advanced.

>>97592033
Good to have fun with friends? Yes
Good for locals? Nope

Is Blue-Eyes White Destiny good out of the box or do I need to buy 3 of it?

Ash Blossom is cute

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>>97592784
You're honestly better off buying singles, as even the staples are extremely cheap.
>>97592960
trve

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>the "perfect design" doesn't exi-

>>97592784
I bought 3 of them. Next week I'll likely buy the primite cards I need for it.

>>97590778
bump debating on either burst protocol or maze of muertos (I really only like dominus impulse she's actually such a cute fucking card) but what relatively cheap $100-200~ can play her? The thing that sucks is I play Dinos/Exosisters/Mikanko but all of them can't really use her because of the lock out.

>>97593050
Primites? What for?

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>>97593116
Burst protocol has a lot of money cards in it, and while the zombie stuff in muertos has a lot of hype ie it's also expensive, the pulls are absolutely terrible. NA gets 4 secrets (2 of them chibi arts) and 4 ultras, while EU gets the same BUT the secret pool is shared with the chibi arts, so you might pull 4 of those, it's a disaster.
>dominus impulse
Maliss and mitsurugi are meta decks that can slot her in with ease due to the attribute locks not really mattering. Orcust and rokket can also fit her since they're like 90% DARK, but that other 10% is your copies of droll and fuwalos, so make sure you use those before you trigger impulse. Also keep in mind that impulse can pop a card if you have a trap already in grave when she activates, so use impermanence first if possible. IIRC tenpai also used to run her, but the deck is in shambles nowadays, even if you maximize the starters the deck is 70% handtraps, so you'll brick a lot.

>>97593181
Ether Beryl, Lordly Lode, Primite Fusion, and Drillbeam all work really well in the deck.

>>97593248
how tf was she not censored. Thanks, I do play GMX so I'll probably grab it and hope for the best but fuck....impulse is so freaking cute. The other deck I want to build is magnet warriors but freaking i have to use ugly dominus pulse instead.

>>97593018
hag

What is the most based Orcust variant?

https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/blue-eyes-white-destiny-3x-structure-deck-580958

How does this look for a potential version 1 of my Blue Eyes White Destiny based deck?

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>>97593018
>dead eyes
>canonically a two-faced, manipulative BPDemon who bottles up her real feelings
>has been having her way with men ever since she was a little girl thanks to her looks and knowing how to put on a cute act
>retarded; she took an apple that a demon gifted to her, and then gave it to her adoptive mother (which led to the demise of her entire family), she also stole her sister's pet without explaining what she wanted to do with it (use its power to kill the demon that tricked her, explaining this would have immediately put diabellstar on board for her plans)
She's beautiful indeed, but good lord is she a fucking minefield. I'd rather try my luck with her sister, she's a timid bookworm that only pretends to be tough because showing weakness in a city full of criminals is a dead sentence, and the poor hygiene won't be an issue if you just scrub her down on the regular.

>>97594136
you only need 2 bricc-eyes if you're not running kaibaman the legend
roar is a 1-of in most builds, but some people like to run 2, either way it's not a 3-of, neither is majesty (1-of no matter the build)
white stone is a waste, why do you wanna search the brick when you have a lot more ways to either add it or outright search it?
ultimate fusion is also a 1-of if you're actually going to summon tyrant (also a 1-of) on the crackback
swap the ratios of the spirit dragons ie 2 link and 3 synchro

everything else looks fine for a blue-eyes deck with 3 structures
look into adding the crimson dragon package to your deck, it's only about $5 worth of cards and it massively improves your endboard
bystials are also cheap as fuck now, 1 magnamhut and 1 druiswurm is all you really need

>>97595019
Ok, I'll look into making some changes. Just so I know what to look for which cards make up the Crimson Dragon package? I could see if my locals have copies of the cards necessary to add to it.

>>97595019
add it or summon it*
>>97595061
it's crimson dragon, sifr dragon and synchro rumble
look into adding other staples like fuwalos, crossout and s:p

Did they end up censoring Ohime's Mikanko tummy in the new alt?

>>97594986
>she took an apple that a demon gifted to her
Literally the woman moment. Anyone would have done the same thing in her place.

So just bought a box of this for $70 maple-bucks. Heard it had some good pulls and haven't bought and cards in about a year.
Did I dun fuck up grabbing it or am I going to have a good time popping these packs open??

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>>97596572
And ofcourse forgot pic..

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>>97594986
I can fix her.

>>97595068
Would you happen to know of a sample deck list with those cards slotted in? I can't find anything on YGOProDeck that features all three cards so I'm unsure of the ratios of them.

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>>97588227
>>97585862
Ive been playing world championship 2011 for a while since I hacked my 3ds. Its a pretty cozy time. The game is slow enough that face down, pass can often be viable and stall for a few turns to get the cards you need, but you still got a decent amount of explosive options too. Also a good variety of cards at the time. Wish the game was slightly later or made just 1 more for 2012 so that it could get the cards from the very end of synchro era and early Xyz. Too bad its a slog to get a lot of cards natty after you finish the campaign. I cheated and got them all after I was done with the main story.

Regardless, has been a fun time waster. Its nice to get a little older time then what you can really do in master duels.

https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/blue-eyes-crimson-dragon-sifr-693765

So I did a bit of research and came up with this deck. How does it look for a first time build?

People complain about how expensive Yugioh is but I priced my LiveTwin Deck and it's only like $200 even with prismatic secret rares.

>>97597196
Honestly compared to some of the more niche games, Yugioh isn't that bad.

>>97597196
>People complain about how expensive
>like $200

>>97597201
>>97597212
The cheapest legacy deck in MTG is like $700
A MTG standard deck is over $200, with some closer to $900
This is with the cheapest versions of the cards.

>>97597215
Standard is insane. They're spending that much and most people I kind who play standard don't even enjoy it.

>>97596572
How would we know if the contents are worth it to you? Do youeven know if the possible contents are worth it to you?
Are you looking for or expecting more than 70 monopoly money out of it?
It sounds to me like you made an impulse buy with no idea what's in it and without any consideration if you wanted the possible contents. Spending money just for the hell of it.
So in that case, I think you fucked up grabbing it. Not because of anything to do with the box but because it sounds like you acted stupid and impulsive.
I really hope you stumble into something you happen to enjoy or get enough out of the (((((experience))))) to make it feel worth it.

>>97597111
Seems pretty reasonable.
If you want to add another soft brick to the deck you can add omni dragon brotaur to your deck as your Seals summon, which allows you to target itself and then add bystials as an extra interaction or if you have a BE guy around something from the BE LIGHT/dragons pool. It's by no means necessary though and is more of a tech choice.

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How many women do you think schlicked to him?

>>97588222
I’ll be honest, I’d rather not. That would essentially require them getting more card than 8 a decade to stay afloat. They require very specific support. If they make them work with generic engines I feel like it would break them to banned for eternity territory. Toons are old school anyway, at most they should ritual summon but that would waste design space.

>>97597601
Someone else told me that Alternative wasn't worth running, would I be better off with something else?

>>97597196
ppl want cards to be 50pennies but then bitch a set has no money cards

>>97597620
women (men) yes I do anon

>>97597705
Yes, it's a touch dated at this point and serves basically no purpose other than being a level 8 body. But in theory you just need to shuffle around 1 or 2 of the same vanilla BE in a combo and you're good.
Chew on this. Filter to the tournament meta decks on ygoprodeck and you'll see none of it's topping lists run BE alt. I've asked some people on the deck in the past and the usual answer I've gotten was "we just don't need it anymore." without much elaboration but I assume it's because the core engine and primite engine are efficent enough at playing to not need BE alt as an extender anymore.
Not to demean your efforts, but there's almost a year worth of BE synchro decks around.
I assume this was some kind of budget/casual build and the BE alt.s and fusions were in for budget/fun reasons in place of a primite engine.

>>97597876
Makes sense. Is there a budget replacement for BE Alts? I was maybe wondering about Dragon Spirit of Blue or maybe that Brotaur card

>>97597868
Why would any PLAYER want cards to be expensive?

>>97597876
Also yeah I can't afford Primites just yet.

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>>97597212
I’m trying to think about how much my most recents decks cost:
>Infernoid ~$50
>Dark World ~$60
>Agents ~$50
>Odion ~$80
>Monarch ~$50
>Dragon Link (including new support) - $150 (probably less to purchase now since all hand traps are cheaper now)

Granted I don’t usually play tier 1 meta, but I think $100-$200 isn’t unreasonable if you want to go all in on a nice deck.

>>97598004
Resale? Trade value? Shiny binder full of cool cards? If *all* you do is play then there’s an argument for universally cheap cards, but that’s just not how most people approach the hobby.

>>97597930
>>97598033
More handtraps is the best I can recommend you if you aren't willing to put the money into primites.
The red pill about BE is that it will always have something expensive tied to it's optimal builds because sellers know Kaiba LARPers will pay basically anything for the cards (ironically very in-character), there's a ton of those people making the demand high, and konami always makes the cards high rarity making supply low.
Unless you're ready to get on the paypig treadmill then you might want to start looking at other decks. This will go on forever.
E.G. before the SD a lot of the cards were expensive, then the SD dropped and lowered those all, but oh hey would you look at that the primites are basically tailor made for BE and they're all high rarity and only get high rarity reprints.

>>97598079
Hmm, well I also have 3 Spirit Charmers decks coming, would those Virtuous and Fallen decks be worth checking out as well?

>>97598004
they wanna make there money back and then some

>>97598044
rokkets are gonna fly up in price due to the lv 7 dark dragon

>>97598057
>resale/trade
This only matters relative to the value of other cards. If card A is worth $5 and card B is also worth $5 then this would be the same amount of buying/trade power as if A was worth $1 and B is worth $1.
>Shiny binder
If I told you that you could build your shiny binder for $5 or $500, which would you logically choose?
>not how most people approach the hobby
What fucking bizzaro world are you living in? Do you think people are constantly trying to sell their cards? Do you exclusively interact with backpack salesfags and store owners?

>>97598079
>>97598097
Or would there be a deck type that I can run that is good enough for locals, but won't break the bank.

>>97598135
Please elaborate, I haven’t heard about this and I’m usually up to date on Rokket news.

>>97598158
I see what you’re saying, but I’m thinking about it from a different perspective. Back in the day I pulled a Solemn Warning from a pack from a then brand-new set called Duelist Revolution. I didn’t need the Solemn Warning, so I traded it. I was able to get many more cards that I did want because I had something that had a high trade value. If every card had been worth 50 cents, I would not have been able to trade as well. People like being able to pull rare things and keep or trade them.

>>97597111
alternative is ass, it's still a level 8 that you can summon for more or less free, so using his pop then overlaying with a vanilla into indigo eyes sounds like a good idea, but indigo eyes is pretty terrible too, despite being a 4k DRNM

cut roar to 2 and fusion to 1, both are searchable

you don't need azure eyes either, as sifr and rumble offer the same protection to your synchros, so cut it in favor of another crimson target (like moonlight dragon) or a generic staple like s:p or ty-phon

everything else looks alright, IMO i would cut a veiler and nibiru in favor of 2 droll, and then throw another 2 cheap staples in there like crossout designator or ghost belle/ogre

>>97598202
theres a lv 7 dark dragon that is a hand trap pop
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Fidraulis_Harmonia
a rokket can just search it
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Rokket_Loader
the tgc is a lower power format to the ocg why wouldn't you throw in a quick launch if you play a lot of synchro's

>>97598261
Those are good suggestions. Should I leave the alts in until I can afford Primites or are you saying to go ahead and cut those too?

>>97598097
>>97598192
The decklist is already competent but not best. That's something you're going to have to accept when you're building near exclusively from SDs and playing on a super small budget.
>decks that won't break the bank
Based on what I've gathered about you, your budget is about 30-40 CAD. Am I correct with this assumption?

>>97598097
The albaz deck is VERY incomplete, but fallen and virtuous shot up to like $10 so you could get some of your money back if you luck out and pull a few of those (you get an extra secret/starlight rare in every box).
If you're curious, it's missing 2 white albaz ($80 each), 1 ecclesia synchro ($20), 1 sanctifire ($3, it used to be $20 as well) and the entire dracotail archetype (around $120 if you just run one secreterion, $150-ish if you run 2).

>>97598289
At most I'd want to spend 70 USD on a complete deck if I were to just buy singles. I just saw that both of these SDs could punch above their weigh class from what I've heard.

>>97598275
Nice. I wonder if this will push Rokket into what it is in Duel Links, a lv8 synchro deck.

>>97598275
Harmonia won't make rokket spike in price, being searchable in it means fuckall because this is just a new handtrap ie you want it in your hand from turn one. The card however will be extremely expensive on release, i'm talking $150 or so just like pot of prosperity was, because it's incredibly good.
>reveal pegasus, malong, packbit, omega and punisher
>summon it, pop a monster, get a free level 7 tuner and set up disruption in the GY (either a immediate bounce or non-destruction removal, or a spin if the opponent destroys harmonia)
It can be any 5 synchros, but those are just the most popular choices. And obviously a synchro deck can just run less targets for it, since they can reveal their own.

>>97598313
so you wouldn't want a quick pop from you're hand turn 1? while also going into a 8 synchro off 1 card
I will say it here it will get quick launch back to 1/banned if the tcg hates 'cheapness' getting a lv 8 and a handtrap pop on a 5 card engine that wont neg you will have ppl pissed

>>97598280
cut them, 3 maiden/kaiser/sage/wishes is enough starters for a "pure" deck, add more staples to it

veiler is searchable too so running 1 copy is enough

start with 2 droll and go from there, i can't really recommend one handtrap over another because it depends a lot on your locals, nibiru for example is a terror at mine because everyone is on a combo deck

>>97598334
a combo deck that doesn't put up a monster negate before the 5th summon i meant

droll is generically good, that's why it got a slap on the wrist last month lmao

I've already made a few edits, but yeah I could add back in a couple staples since I dropped a few. Plus I found out that I have a couple Drolls in the 5Ds Legendary decks that I bought on a whim. (I know I've bought stuff, I was on a jonesing for different shit and it was on clearance at Best Buy for some reason)

>>97598365
Here's the latest List. It looks like I actually have most of the cards for this already. I just need a couple things for the Extra Deck and the Bystials.

https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/blue-eyes-crimson-dragon-sifr-v3-693765

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>>97598365
if you already have the 5d's decks, you can just toss some of its cards in blue eyes

i would go for something like pic related, all you'd be missing is sifr, lightstorm, s:p and talent (you can swap this one for literally anything else)

it's missing a extra deck monster but honestly you can put whatever you want in there, blazar and ty-phon are decent choices

>>97598424
I'll also be missing two Fuwalos, but those aren't terribly expensive on their own. So yeah this is totally doable.

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I think this is what I'm going with. Thanks all for all your assistance.

>>97598535
banishing roar from GY also fuses tyrant, that's why i cut ultimate fusion, that card is only good for fusing master magia

>>97598595
Oh, okay I'll add in the Talent card. I had no idea.

>>97598601
you're building a deck without knowing what its cards do? give 'em all a thorough read bruv

>>97598633
I thought I did. My bad.

>>97598424
Before I go ahead and buy what I have picked out. Someone else suggested adding Ancient Fairy Dragon instead of Blazar, would that be a wise pick?

>>97597620
Maybe like two? Very few women with vaginas play card games, fewer still play this card game, and even fewer still are furries.

Madolche

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>>97598313
>tfw you realize konami's soon gonna start banning random ED synchros to step around Harmonia like they did with tuners and needlefiber back in the day

>>97598722
Aren't they both dirt cheap? Just get both and test them out to see what works better for you

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I don't want to encourage e-celeb discussion, but why are Yugioh YouTubers especially insufferable? What about this franchise encourages retards to make videos on it?

>>97598915
it only be that wind horse

>>97598990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imspRb_gf5Y
you got the jew that doesn't play yuigoh thats meh
you got the other jew that always has these grand ideas to make yugioh into magic (there shit) his also meh
you got the three idiots (only good ones) well you got the jew and and the blackguy thats good but they dont really play anymore
duel logs is ok and ruxion or whatever his name is ok too
that doug guy is boring, same with the 30 year old twink and asian eyes
you got that cyberese guy he is the only one thats truly insufferable with no upsides
you got the gang of blacks that are ok only the faggot that keeps bitching about modern yugioh is annoying
the asian husband and wife are ok
the train guy is decent when he posts
sam can get annoying after 1 or 2 videos
the pros are ok just devoid of personality

overall there not bad the worse thing about them is when they bitch about modern yugioh going on about how its gonna die or some shit when the fullarts get all these faggots buying product to get those 1 in 100 cards they will bitch about that, like its been fucking 20 years of bitching meta decks are 1000 to buy ok we get it move on, oh wait the worse thing is the fans they can drive jokes into the ground and make you want to kill yourself

>>97598990
Just watch Japanese ones instead

>>97598722
I've only seen meme/giga combo blue-eyes decks run AFD, blazar is better IMO, 4k omni negate that bails until the end phase is better than crystal wing shenanigans.
>>97598832
Women without vaginas simply don't exist, fuck off back to r_ddit or whichever other shithole you crawled out from.

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I bought an extra copy of saffira and sauravis a couple days ago, in case i ever felt like running more in my deck. A day later i bought a few more VV cards so i would have playsets of everything, even though no one runs more than 2 copies of skull guardian, or more than a single old man sauravis, blessings or radiance. Everything was in mint condition, i'm actually incredibly anal about the state of the shiny cardboard i buy.

Wanna guess who woke up today, tried to mess around with the ratios of his deck (+1 sauravis), and found out that every single new card he bought was damaged in the bottom left corner? I live alone so no asshole brother did it. These cards were bought roughly a week ago, then stored in a box where i keep a lot more loose cards i plan to use later. And yes, these are the only ones that got damaged. I don't take that box to locals, so my guess is that a fucking fairy did it.
It's not water/moisture damage, it's like someone bent the shit out of them deliberately. Unfortunately i can't take any pictures because i already threw them away (i was a bit angry) and i won't dig around for them in the trash.

This isn't the first time it happens by the way, one of the 3 traptrix structure decks i bought got damaged in a similar way (upper left corner) and i have no idea how that happened, since they went inside a sleeve right away, then stored in their box after i got bored of the deck. And yes it's just one of the 3 structures i bought, the other 2 are in mint condition.

>>97599022
>asian whore and grifter husband
kys
:O
:O
:OOOOOOOOOOOO

>>97599587
>don't exist
They do, I swear! I'm sorry all the ones you interact with have dicks. Maybe one day you'll get lucky

>>97599649
Did you tard hulk them into their sleeves or something?

Hello. I'm a tourist.
I want to ask something for confirmation:
How common it is calling the process of using called by the grave in response to something, "finger"?

>>97598990
>The answer you'll reject because people don't like even soft critique of the self.
It's probably because what you watch is very narrow (due to time or interest) so you don't have a bigger picture to evaluate it properly.
>The answer you would probably rather hear because it doesn't criticize the self.
I think you have to take one more step back. Youtubers of all sources are a type of insufferable because content creation and their public perception demands they be performative and animated. It's pretty much the norm for any sort of entertainer, people expect them to be sensational. Being more sensational the younger their intended audience is.
What I will give you is that there is a section of these YGO youtubers that are clearly designed to target the younger audience, channels like farfa and team sam, that really lay it on thick.
This kind of presentation is more common in PTCG because the game is targeted at babies and less common in MTG because the game is targeted at adults. YGO is in between the two somewhere with it's target audience being adolescent to young adult.
And to cover my ass about some Glup Shitto's epic and based channel you might point to that's outside that age demographic. These are outliars, else we wouldn't be having this conversation tight now.
And I assume you're an adult so then of course you're going to feel out of place and you can't stomach it.
TLDR
YGO's target audience is around teen age. The younger the age demographic desires more sensationalized content. Content creators see and fulfill the demand. And if you're an adult this means you are outside of the intended audience and that won't appeal to you.

>>97600194
Not super common, but I've heard it called that once or twice.

>>97599649
>I already threw them away
For what purpose? Unless the card deforms the sleeve enough to be considered marked then they are playable in sleeves.
Obviously I'm not going to be able to see how you're handling your cards. But if I take your word at face value that they arrived in mint condition and only after you've owned and stored them did they get damaged then that would place the source of blame being yourself.
Not really sure what you're expecting us to solve in this situation. But I think you're retarded for throwing out the cards.

>>97598990
They always complain. It doesn’t matter whether the problem gets fixed or not, they’ll just latch onto the next “issue” the game supposedly needs addressed, and then the next one after that. Nothing will satisfy them unless the game is reverted to some hyper-specific snapshot in time where they can relive their glory days in an ancient meta that’s been dead for a decade. They claim to hate the game, yet can never clearly explain how it could realistically be better just that it should magically feel like 2012 again. The logical response to hating a game would be to play something else, but no. Instead, they’ll complain about it for ten straight years while insisting it’s still the pinnacle of TCG design.

tldr: ygo players are autistic

>only 2 scrs per box in EU mzmu
holy fuck I almost bought a box yesterday
also no longer feel too bad about missing the prerelease event, holy shit tewart you sly little jew

>>97600284
I think both of your assertions are correct, I haven't watched every Yugituber, my opinion is based on the dozen or so I have seen. The bulk also target a younger demographic with their content clearly and that doesn't appeal to me

>>97599455
Do you have any recs?

So Links totally killed YuGiOh! in my area, like the FLGS's stopped stocking it after two booster sets and everyone got tired of turn one missus radiant or whatever.

i'm reading now and it sounds like links only exist to link summon other links and pendulums which seems to just be Konami trying to just obfuscate tribute summoning effect monsters or something.

How did people take this change and are Links just used for broken effects now?

>>97601714
Where the fuck did you read that? A YouTube comment section? Why don't you try playing the game or watching some replays to see what role they play instead of adopting a second-hand opinion?

>I didn't get the BMG secret rare from SBC
>My binders are missing two spaces and I can't remember why
FUUUUUUUUCK

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>>97597530
Jesus Christ aren't you salty cunt.
Asked a question if it has some good pulls since I heard it did and wanted to be able to share in the basic reason we all started in collecting cards, popping open packs and rolling the dice on seeing what ya get. To pretend that the monetary part of this game is not important is actual frivolous behaviour and shows that either you have a problem with buying to much or can't afford to buy what ya want so you have to lash out.

Glad I pulled pic related and made back double the money even though the money wasn't even an issue since I ain't a loser sleeping in my parents house still.

Enjoy your miserable life and don't forgot to add some more salt to your dinner tonight ya hoser.

Where do (You) print your proxies /ygo/? I don't like playing with the actual cards because they're expensive in my country and also autism, so I rather keep them in a binder

>>97602356
Where I live library have pretty damn good printers and copiers so that works really well there
Not knowing your country though, I would say start there or atleast give them a call to ask if they have the equipment.

Thinking about getting into Edison format with my friend using Blackwing deck from middle/high school. Anything I should know?

>>97602514
get ready to do you're combo leaving them on 2k and you getting brain controlled

>>97596572
>>97596576
Eeeeh, ALIN's pulls aren't really great.

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Does Rarity Collection 5 have these overframes? The ones they showed don't look as high rarity

>>97602302
The fuck is your problem?
>Asked a question if it has some good pulls
Except you didn't. We can all see your post and it says
>Heard it had some good pulls and haven't bought and cards in about a year.
This is a statement, not a question. A question ends with a question mark. And don't try to bullshit here saying that they're connected because there's a linebreak.
>Did I dun fuck up grabbing it or am I going to have a good time popping these packs open??
This is a question. And based on your wording it sounds like you're asking about personal enjoyment which is why I asked how do we know if it's worth it to you. I even asked a financial angle just in case it was financial and not personal.
I then tell it to you straight that I think you fucked up and why I think you fucked up. But it sounds like you didn't actually want to hear that and just wanted people to stroke your ego or something.
>To pretend that the monetary part of this game is not important is actual frivolous behavior
????
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not saying it doesn't matter in the slightest. I covered it not just once, but twice. Asking if you were looking for more than you spent and saying it sounds like you impulse bought it.
>you have a problem with buying to[o] much or can't afford to buy what ya want so you have to lash out
Holy projection.
YOU bought the box before verifying the word of mouth.
YOU spent frivolously.
YOU can't afford to buy what you want (you haven't bought anything in a year and only now you decide to buy a half year old product at recuded price. Really makes one think.)
YOU are now lashing out at me.
>salty cunt
>I ain't a loser sleeping in my parent's house
>your miserable life
>more salt
You're absolutely ass blasted given the last 2 parts of your post are you just trying to make your fragile ego feel better. I have doubts that you even pulled a QCSE sarc DMG, you probably just looked up the most expensive card in the set. Your pic is from TCGplayer.

bought non-glare sleeves last year for my deck, they're still in more or less perfect condition despite shuffling a lot
it's a shame they don't make them yugioh sized, i'm using official konami sleeves which are way bigger than japanese size dragon shield

>>97603170
Which ones specifically?

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>>97603181
these
if you've ever bought outer sleeves before, then you probably know that the back is matte and the front is glossy, this one is matte on both sides so it doesn't get scratched with ease

i looked on their website and indeed they don't make them for japanese ie yugioh sized cards, maybe there's another brand that makes them but my locals only sells dragon shield

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Is this a loli?

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>>97603388
It's literally one of the most famous lolis ever, right alongside alice (which has an archetype based on her, unfortunately they seem to be teenagers/young adults instead of kids).

>>97602884
The overframes in RA05 are just shitty imitations made by kebrew jewart. They're just old cards that got the full art treatment whereas the ones the OCG will get first are all new stuff. They're also printing them in more normal rarities iirc.

>>97603627
>The overframes in RA05 are just shitty imitations made by kebrew jewart.
Those were first revealed in the OCG.

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>>97603067
..... Are you pic-related or just the same level of deranged autistic? And that's a question. Do you understand the difference between semantics and semantic? Another question.

God damn sorry bud that I originally brought up a casual question to have some 3rd grade teacher brained douche-bag strolling in spouting his rhetoric like a sprinkler.

Brought up the box originally to have a casual discussion, kinda like what 4chan and anon forums has always been for. Shoot the shit about things about the discussion and hobby we all enjoy.
But I think that's the problem, you are just miserable and it show from your other comments in the board bud.

Won't waste anymore words on someone far blown as you, but I'll enjoy I could share that I pulled DMG QC rare on a box and had a blast getting her and all the other fun cards I didn't know the set had. Why spoil opening a box to read up everything only before hand. I love buying a box after a good 16 months and not know what's been going on in the scene. Called a leap of faith, sorry I asked for a /tg/ board for an opinion the autismo.
Chill out more, go get some fresh air, and you words have better room left in your head then spouted out to us, so let them have a rest in ya said head..

>>97603787
>pic-related
>deranged autistic
He gets more enjoyment out of the game than you, faggot

>>97603067
Bro, you cannot say that other people are ass blasted when you're posting all that shit. Take a break and drink some water.

>>97598424
>>97598535
half the deck is handtraps and negates. wow, i hate modern yugioh so much! disgusting crap, ew! i rather player old tag force games and forbidden memories on repeat.

>>97604114
Half the deck being generic goodstuff is a ygo staple throughout pretty much it's entire history though

>>97604114
based

>>97603787
Since long posts scare you and are too autistic for you I'll keep this one short.
>Im just trying to be le heckin wholesome :) and you're a miserable meanie autist :(
lol
lmao even
If you don't want to actually hear that people think you fucked up and you want blind positivity go to reddit.
>I don't check, it's called a leap of faith
So my assumption from the very beginning was correct that you bought impulsively. I think it's clear now what's going on.
You're upset that I called my shot about you impulse buying correctly. And since you have little to argue with because impulse spending is objectively a fuck up you have to resort to ad homs.
>kinda like what 4chan and anon forums have always been for
If you're such a well versed person then this should be familiar. I doubt you pulled a QCSE sarc DMG. Pics (with timestamp) or GTFO. Prove you're not fake and gay.

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A BAO A QU
EVEN QUTER

Autistic faggot, you are in the wrong and need to calm the fuck down. Instead of just asking what the original anon meant by "value" when he asked if the ALIN boxes had any good pulls, you immediately got combative and went down a checklist of potential definitions like you were talking to an investerino RAT instead of just being normal and letting him explain himself. And now you are sperging out because people are calling you out on it.

Here is a little exercise for you to put things into perspective. Pretend someone else just randomly started exploding at you over a simple question and typed all the shit you typed in your general direction.

What does one have to do to become this autistic?

>>97606704
rapeable

>>97606704
will go perfectly in my live twin deck, when can I cop?

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>>97606704
A BAO
A QU(TE)!

We got a menhera loli archetype last year (killer tune), we need a goth loli one now.
>>97607745
In TCG? Probably next year's rarity collection. Starlight/QCSR exclusive, $100 minimum btw.

>>97606704
Should I get this and replace her the real version in my Live Twin deck?

>>97607745
>>97608494
Right-brain thinkers would replace her. Left-brain thinkers would run both so that she matches with Ki-sikil and Lil-la, even if it is not optimal.

YGO main I worked ink a comic shop when the God cards were released. Was YGO packs the original God packs? With all three God cards cards in one pack?

>>97608559
I only run 1 copy, but I guess I could replace unchained abomination
I just like the idea of Ki-Sikil and Lil-la keeping around this big gross dog for reasons

I boughted two (2) Blue Eyes White Destiny structures (later a third)
What am I in for, bros?

So I think I want to build a deck from scratch next. What archetype should I build If I only have about 130 bucks to work with?

>>97609029
big black wings
you could make the lock with 130

Ghost Sister better with or without habit?

>>97609029
Something with Machines

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>>97608611
>for reasons

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>>97609331
they have fun with him!

does tri-begayed now get rid of the bird, springings kitt is so good its like do you really need a normal that does nothing

Just played a bit on YGO Omega and MDPro3, and I really like the game. My favorite archetype is Dinomorphia because I love trap cards and lowering my LP for effects.

I'm thinking of buying a Dinomorphia deck with singles and going to locals, never played irl before. Is it a good idea? I don't want to be "that guy" because some people said Dinomorphia (with counter trap and some negate with rexterm) is hated and stun.

Any opinions? I want to meet new frens there and not being an asshole

>>97609132
Alt art + without. If they had the alt art with it then maybe I'd go with that but as it stands there isn't that option.

>>97610222
Just say you got it for cheap or that you can't keep up with the speed of modern combo decks. People will bitch about rextrem but then play shit like liger bagooska pass, pretty much every yugioh player is already "that guy" but the meme only applies to trap decks for some reason.

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>>97603170
>>97603181
>>97603203

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>Fire king
>Plunder patroll
>B.E.S.
>RDA
>Skull servants
>Ancient gear
>Magnet warriors
>Heroes

I’m trying to plan out some decks I can build in master duel that would be for fun. Above are the decks that look fun or have cool art, but are they fun? Which one(s) do you enjoy?

>>97611435
Fire King was a recent meta deck so you can get some decent games with it. But its effects aren't as strong now as the typical interactions are less destruction oriented at the moment.

Plunder Patroll mixed with Adventure Token series was a decent one, but you can end up getting into trouble as its ED lineup isn't well tuned nowadays to counter as well as it used to, and Rite of Aramesir prevents normal summon effects.

B.E.S. is not a good deck. It was first made in the early days of creating archetypes and it never got fixed.

RDA is pretty strong and being mixed with Centur-Ion can push it pretty far.

Skull Servants is a meme deck that's OTK or bust. Can be fun, but its not gonna be too common to win games.

Ancient Gear on its own is a weak glass cannon, but as part of the EARTH Machine deck you can get a good though hard rogue deck.

Master Duel Magnet Warriors aren't good...yet. There's some support just released in the TCG that will arrive in Master Duel in a couple months that really improves the deck.

Evil HERO with Fiendsmith is a fairly strong variant. General HERO is a bit too bricky.

>>97611435
Two variants I can recommend are Fire King Jurrac and Fiendsmith Plunder Patroll. FK Jurrac has become somewhat popular as a budget option in the TCG (though I don't know how cheap it is in MD), and as much as I hate Sneedsmith as an engine, it has genuine working synergy with Plunder Patroll.

>>97612416
>>97612477
Thanks anons, I appreciate it. I know most these aren’t meta or great, but I’ve got VSK9 for when I want to play meta. Now I want to make some fun decks I can goof off with, I’ll take your advice into account.

How easy or hard would it be to upgrade the Spirit Charmers new deck into something usable at locals?

>>97612587
There was some support released alongside the deck in the OCG that has yet to arrive which is pretty relevant to upgrading the deck. As of right now, tge deck is very Spellbook of the Grand Circle or bust. The support diesn't really break it too much, but it does give some better lines after it resolves and there's a bit of other things you are able to do that remain weak but exist as plays.

There is a Lyna that doesn't come with the deck you want to pick up.

This all is if you want to play Charmers. The Horus cards on their own represents a good Rank 8 engine that can go with a fair number of other things.

This deck looks really cool with all the monsters and beasts but I'm a casual player and I don't like that it won a tournament.
Is there a way to power it down while still retaining the theming and functionality? Would removing the handtraps be enough?
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/689723

>>97612587
WCQ is a fake format so you can lay those concerns to rest. It is the same environment where Ancient Gear went 6:0 in the middle of Fiendsmith/Snake-Eye format.

>>97612786
meant for >>97612680

>>97612786
>>97612792
Oh nice. What's WCQ?

>>97612799
World Qualifiers. Worlds in general is an environment where many of the participants have outright stated that they run things they normally wouldn't. Prime examples being Lunalight and Sky Striker in the last WCS, and again that infamous Ancient Gear 6:0 run.

All that being said; If you're insistent on powering it down, just take out the Fiendsmith engine. Chimera and Hecahands are fine on their own, Fiendsmith just rounds things out by giving them generic interruption.

>>97611420
hate that corny nigga

>>97612821
>environment where they run things they normally wouldn't
Why?

>>97608607
...what?

>>97594098
Bump

>>97612416
AG got a big boost with their newer wave, they don't EARTH soup much anymore. They just pack blowouts and kill off 1 card

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can you guys believe i almost paid a hundred bucks for 3 copies of beta, 1 berserkion and 1 imperion last week? thank fuck i had just paid rent and was short on cash so i didn't make the purchase right then and there, because not even 24 hours later the muertos reprints got leaked and beta was amongst them

it sucks that i won't be able to play this deck with the 4k omni negate, but i'm confident konami is reprinting them in this year's tin because imperion still has that old text where "(quick effect)" reads as "during either player's turn"

>>97610222
Dinomorphia has too many counters to be really called an asshole deck. Hell a single ash blossom can turnskip you if you didn't open a way to negate it.

I bought a few cards to help upgrade my Charmers deck with. Namely the two charmers I don't already have, 2x Secret Village, 1x Walls of thge Imperial Tomb, Crowley, the First Propheseer, and Number 38 and Number 90. These were at suggestions I found online, I probably didn't do great but I wanted to do a quick and dirty upgrade of a few cards at a time.

I'm getting back into the game (stopped playing a bit before synchro monsters were a thing), and I'm looking at doing a Dark World deck in genesys format since it's popular in my area. If anyone has any advice in that regard, general or specific, I'd like to hear it.
Also, while I am looking at Dark World, I'm open to other options. I'm more interested in fun, casual play than anything competitive.

>>97614318
Genesys is gayer than advanced, somehow the top 3 decks remain the same in both formats, but you have less counters for them as a genesissy because cards have arbitrary restrictions to them. And dark world is a deck that only wastes time, granted it's been a long time since i've seen the deck, but i had the misfortune of facing a lot of people on it back when their structure came out, and their endboard was always 3 material apollousa and their archetypal fusion, with 30 cards in grave.

>>97611435
only had a interested in using resonators for my big blackwings but never went though with it
heros likely the best deck and the only one you be able to make

>>97614380
>somehow the top 3 decks remain the same in both formats
This is the biggest problem with Genesys. What's the point of an alternate format if it has the same top decks as the main formet?

>>97614380
>Top 3 decks are the same
You have radiant typhoon and maybe vanquish soul (though not K9 VS). What other overlap is there and source?

>>97598915
MahoAko archetype when?

>>97614380
>>97614495
Do you guys only judge a format based on the top decks? Especially in Genesys with the knowledge that once every 2 months we get point updates to keep those top decks in check? They slaughtered Dracotail on the last list, and the only reason Killer Tune is still alive is because the point update hasn't happened yet.

>>97614318
You'll probably have a rough time with the actual deck composition since Siilva is at 100 points and Snoww is at 33 (Siilva for a good reason in my opinion, not so much for Snoww). The deck is playable without them, but a hell of a lot more difficult.

>>97614764
>radiant typhoon yummy
>vs k9
>dracotail
genesissy's top 3 decks are: radiant typhoon (no yummy), vs k9 and.... dracotail
killer tune is also there, because jewart hasn't hit the deck yet
>where source???
ygoprodeck, literally got to the tournament decks section and sort by usage
>>97614782
well yeah, unless you plan on dueling exclusively against people on low tier decks, it's a given you'll always face people using the best decks of the format

>>97614788
And you realize that the entire point of Genesys is so that people can run their low-tier decks, yes? People that want to strictly play with the most up-to-date meta decks will generally just stick with Advanced, while most locals with a Genesys scene are populated by people that WANT to run untiered archetypes and petdecks.

>>97614802
>And you realize that the entire point of Genesys is so that people can run their low-tier decks, yes?
yes
but that shit doesn't fly in tournaments
again, nothing wrong if you plan to stay in the fun/petdeck table 24/7, but at least for me there's no point in moving onto a """weaker""" format if i'm going to see the exact same cancer anyway, because at least my (former) meta deck using a cope engine can get some wins in advanced, at the fun table, where i don't have to pick between handtraps, or the most basic fucking staples that my deck needs to work

>>97614788
>>ygoprodeck, literally got to the tournament decks section and sort by usage
>check source
>majority are from invitational tournaments

>check Proto-YCS Richmond results (10 days ago)
https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/genesys-proto-ycs-richmond-4225
>Radiant Typhoon, DoomZ, Dracotail, Onomat, VS, Monarch, Killer Tune

>check Proto-YCS Dortmund results
https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/genesys-proto-ycs-dortmund-4226
>Killer Tune, VS, White Forest, Radiant Typhoon, Monarch, Tistina

You can tell unc is salty about getting shit on with his pet deck in Genesys. Unc really thought he was about to time-travel back to his glory days. Then reality hit him like a brick. Now he’s coping by convincing himself Genesys is just like modern format.

I have been tinkering about with my deck (Master duel) and I have came to this the LV 4 dragon is the one that gets a dark dragon lv 7 (so quick launch can get you a handtrap) I still need to work on the ED maybe 1 shuraig but its for the grind
I am really looking forward to these new cards I've always loved using tri-blackwing since cards like pinaki works off revolt (though I might drop it as I dont send it off farktell anymore as spring kit is my most new fav card turns tell into a free ss and a link 2)
wish there was a better free tuna then ass

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>>97615048
forgot the fucking pic
wouldn't know how to make this work in the tcg

Would buying a box of Blazing Dominion when it comes out help with me upgrading my charmers deck further or would I be better off just waiting and seeing what singles will cost?

Rec me a budget deck box

>>97615353
What's your budget?

>>97615353
gamegenic sideholder 80+

>>97615370
Less than 1/3 of a third world country's weekly minimum wage
>>97615412
Looks good, actually. Thanks

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How does this look for a Spirit Charmers deck post chronicle deck, pre-blazing dominion?

>>97614788
Your knowledge is pretty outdated if you think VS K9 was viable in Genesys outside of the very first faulty list with a handful of remnants between the first and the second update in October.

Still, let's test that with the recent events:

Dortmund (TCG Advanced)
https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/300th-ycs-dortmund-4219

>Winner: VS K9
>Runner-Up: Dracotail Branded
>Top 4: Dracotail Branded
>Top 4: @Ignister Maliss
>Top 8: Radiant Typhoon Fiendsmith
>Top 8: Dracotail Branded
>Top 8: Dracotail Branded
>Top 8: Dracotail Branded

Dortmund (Genesys)
https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/genesys-proto-ycs-dortmund-4226
>Winner: Kewl Tune
>Runner-Up: Toy Kewl Tune White Forest
>Top 4: Regenesis VS
>Top 4: Kewl Tune
>Top 8: Regenesis VS
>Top 8: Radiant Typhoon
>Top 8: Monarch
>Top 8: Regenesis VS

Richmond (TCG Advanced)
https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/300th-ycs-richmond-4218
>Winner: Yummy Radiant Typhoon Tri-Brigade
>Runner-Up: VS K9
>Top 4: Memento Radiant Typhoon
>Top 4: Dracotail Branded
>Top 8: @Ignister Maliss
>Top 8: Dracotail Branded
>Top 8: @Ignister Maliss
>Top 8: Lunalight

Richmond (Genesys)
https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/genesys-proto-ycs-richmond-4225
>Winner: Radiant Typhoon
>Runner-Up: DoomZ
>Top 4: Dracotail Shaddoll
>Top 4: Radiant Typhoon
>Top 8: Onomat
>Top 8: Vanquish Soul Regenesis
>Top 8: Monarch
>Top 8: Kewl Tune

Condensing by the most common archetypes regardless of variants:

So for TCG Advanced:
>7 Dracotail Branded
>3 @Ignister Maliss
>3 Radiant Typhoon (2 Mixed)
>2 VS K9
>1 Lunalight

And for Genesys:
>4 Regenesis VS
>4 Kewl Tune (1 Mixed)
>3 Radiant Typhoon
>2 Monarch
>1 DoomZ
>1 Dracotail Shaddoll
>1 Onomat

There is some overlap. Though VS K9 is a Rank 5/9 with many turn 0 plays while Regenesis Vanquish Soul is a Rank 4/5/8 deck with only 1 Turn 0 card.

Similarly, Radiant Typhoon became meta in the TCG with their link monster release less than 3 weeks ago. Before that, they only hit Rogue when mixed with Fiendsmith.

>>97615905
Would it be too cute to add a copy of Quintet Magician to this in place of one of the Charmers of the Grand Circle.

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I remember some guy wanted a dark magician girl retrain for yugi's last card in the hero collection, but someone told him it was dark curtain instead, because it was already leaked. Looks like both people got their wish, in a way.

Showing off DMG's wakipai was VERY important by the way, even though there's no way you'd be able to see her armpit from that angle thanks to the cuffs (?) she wears.

>>97585862
as someone who dropped out shortly after XYZ where introduced, what makes modern yugioh "fun"? I watched a video the other day where one player set up a combo special summoning half his deck and filling up his entire field with high level monsters and all I thought was "where's the fun?"

when your card game boils down to a slideshow where one turn takes unironically 5-10minutes what's the point? on another note, are there any card games out there that play like traditional yugioh?

>>97617074
So, you watched a video where one player drew into ZERO interruption?

>>97617074
you should try to play and experience what the game has to offer rather than watching a video and judging it solely on that. Some games are non-games but back-and-forths in modern yugioh is a blast. Genesys or retro formats are probably what you're going to want to look into, specifically Edison format.

>>97617145
>Edison format
THANK YOU. I never knew about this and just reading through the bann list feels like a blast from the past. definitely looking into this

>>97617074
The game isn't always metatroon deck VS metatroon deck, a friend had the same issue as you, and i just told him to sit at the table where people just play for fun. He fell in love with the game again.

>>97617074
making your deck better tinkering here tinkering there

>>97617162
>>97617145
edison is shit
when you get B control and lose, you wont be happy or get hero'd 3 times over

>>97617320
>oh no
>the game had to end
>waaaaaah

>>97617074
Well first of all, you're watching gameplay rather than playing. You're not experiencing any of the decision making, gamestate evaluation, planning/playing around X, etc. You're just kind of sitting there mindlessly.
Second of all, you're not familiar with the game so everything is going over your head. You've been gone for 15 years and the game isn't going to wait around frozen in time for you specifically. This is one of the biggest issues returning players have, its a hard pill to swallow for like 80% of returning people.

>Getting back into the modern game
Relearn the game or fill in your knowledge gaps, practice a net decked list and learn just that one deck's capabilities/flaws, learn some fundamentals like using interaction on cards that search other cards, and then take on the game.
>Traditional yugioh
As others have said and you've found. Edison format is about where you left off. You can get into that if you want to "relive the past" as a FOTM/tourist thing. Maybe that appeals to you if you struggle to take on new information and you're an old dog who can't learn new tricks.
It exist for that reason afterall.
PERSONALLY I got bored of it after about half a year because the format is solved and is basically a board game. I found myself rather wanting to play with new support of the decks in the format with friends instead as a kind of pseudo-edison.
Spend some time in edison and then maybe revisit the modern formats (TCG or genesys).

>>97616931
CUTE

>>97617074
Watching Yu-Gi-Oh is like watching a fighting game. If you aren't already oretty attuned to the game so you can know what's going on inside the players' heads, you're gonna have a hard time enjoying it because you don't really know what's going on due to how much is non-verbal. Commentators and meta-drama tend to help, but the former can still be hard to keep up with and the latter is more around the game then the game itself (and Yu-Gi-Oh is pretty limited on the player beef front)

Playing is a very different story. If you have any form of interaction, you are going to be frequently weighing exactly when to use it for maximum effect based on what your opponent is doing, ranging from locks they are playing under or avoiding, what they used for their normal summon, what may be baits vs crucial, etc. Even if you don't have anything, you'll be weighing their endboards vs your hand to plan how you are going to break through, and note any fuckups they make that has reduced the power. While you are engaging in your own plays, you are going to be constantly needling your opponent's hand to figure out what interaction they have if any, and quickly adjusting on the fly if you are hit with one. In person or with manualsims this grows more potent, as merely asking for evena couple moments of thinking or asking a clarifying question on card effects before an "I'll allow it" or "That's fine" can bluff your opponent into changing their lines because they think you have a specific interaction ready even if you don't. The turns are long, but you will be constantly thinking and planning throughout them.

If I had to point to why Yu-Gi-Oh specifically, it's because it effectively starts in the meatiest portion of TCG gameplay. Sometimes you'll be hit with a blowout, but most games aren't gonna end up that way if you've built a decent deck you are capable of piloting.

>>97617074
>what makes modern yugioh "fun"?
Nothing
>"where's the fun?"
Nowhere
>5-10minutes what's the point?
Autism
>are there any card games out there that play like traditional yugioh?
Your best bet are alternative or community formats

how to build Odion with splashed K9 instead of Primite or Fiendsmith? It feels like that should be strong since if you get dustered Case will trigger

>>97618581
>how to build Odion with splashed K9
Rishid*
And you don't. People add fiendsmith and primite cards to the deck exactly because they can help with lightning storm/duster randomly deleting your backrow.

Are there any trustworthy buy/sell/trade communities for Yugioh? TCGPlayer prices are out of control.

>>97619133
>Are there any
eBay
>trustworthy
lol, good luck

>My structure decks arrive
>Sleeves and deck box haven't
>Binder is standard sized so non+Pokemon cards fall right off
Fuuuuuuuck where am I supposed to store these? I WANT TO OPEN THEM NOW

>>97619955
Just put them back in the box it came in until you get the sleeves and deckbox

>>97619955
Just letting you know. They don't really make small/jp size binders, it's all standard size.
I've bought some 3 ring binder pages that claimed to be made for jp size but when I got them it was standard. Cloth bound binders in jp size are non-existant these days and are too expensive for me to want to waste money on finding out they're probably bullshit too.
Likely due to jp size being a basically obsolete card size except for YGO specifically.
I've given up the search and tired of wasting time and money on the hunt.
t. sleevefag

>the promo is bent out of the box

>>97620269
The official Konami binders are fine but they only hold 180 rectangles.

Have (You) graded your cards? I'd like to know which company is better, for protection rather than increased sale value

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>>97620568
Just get something like these.

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>>97615905
You don't really want to search any of the charmers, so the channelers are mostly useless, more so at 1 copy each. Spellbook of secrets and the guy who searches it is full combo, so stick to that, the horus cards and maybe some tech cards like the charmer pets (the level 4's that summon themselves for free if there's a spellcaster on the board) for rank 4 plays, or silent magician, who is a spell negate that can get pretty big. The deck is still incomplete until BLZD, but even with those cards the deck doesn't become "good" unless you add the magistus cards to it, and iirc spenta is a $50 card AND a 3-of.

Not sure if you're the aussafag or just another based retard that likes the charmers, but i'm posting this anyway, it's a pretty nice picture nonetheless.

>>97617320
Brain control can be played around and it's a one of
Wewlad

>>97620659
So you saying run the familiar possessed cards instead of the channelers?

>>97620659
>silent magician
Hmm, actually I do like this card. Should I run the familiar possessed cards or 3 copies of Silent Magician+1 additional unincluded charmer from my cards?

>>97621009
Actually, I'd just run the Silent Magicians, and that'd get me to a safe 40 card deck.

Hear me out
Cyber Dragoon
Cyber Scientist Girl

>>97620397
I should clarify. Yes the Konami binders (at least I can speak for the IP masq one) do have proper jp sizing but I'm not a huge fan of them due to the fact that they're not zipper close and the make of them isn't to great. The edge of mine kind of split after having it for a while and Im not transporting it or anything, it rolled the bottom edge of it on it's own weight and then came apart. Hard to recommend them in that reguard.
Others can have their own opinion but IMO if it doesn't zipper close I basically don't consider it a real binder. I consider it a near manditory feature.

>>97621149
Cyber Ancient Gear Golem

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Does this look competently put together? I ended up doing what I said and cut the channelers in favor of a playset of Silent Magician.

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Is this a loli?

Which sim should I use to test out my TCG decks? I know there's 3 or 4 listed in the OP but which is the best/most active one that's autiomated?

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>>97621009
The possessed cards suck. I'm not too familiar with the deck, but the combo goes something like this, right?
>magician of prophecy add spellbook of secrets or viceversa
>search spellbook of the grand circle
>use its effect to add 4 charmer monsters, then shuffle 2 cards
>banish the spell to fuse charmers of the grand circle
>since you can use the same effect up to 4 times, you can resurrect the 4 girls if you want
>they're all level 3 so you can xyz summon gossip shadow (monster negate + draw), ashura king (monster negate + destroy) or armor torpedo (draw + succ + beatstick with protection), then use the leftover bodies for masquerena
The horus cards help you by discarding your charmer bricks (grand circle adds from GY as well) and providing bodies with nice effects (imsety sends a card, hapi recycles your grand circle), but they can be used for rank 8 plays as well, like hope harbinger (spell negate) and photon lord (monster negate). I've also seen people in OCG run the argostars engine in it, but mx-saber invoker is unfortunately still banned in TCG.

It's a pretty alright deck for a beginner, but i don't like the fact that it runs 4-5 hard bricks just to function, even if you have a way to get rid of them. That shouldn't stop you from playing it though, i too keep dragging along this crappy cute girl deck traptrix from 2023 just because i want to put my penis inside all the girls featured in the cards.

>>97621567
You can always find a match on EDOpro, but omega has discuck integration and matchmaking (the other client uses a """ancient""" server browser), so it's more convenient.

So I pulled a Radiant Typhoon Krosea from my DOOD booster box. This pretty much paid for the box right if I only spend 45ish bucks on it?

purple eyes grey dragon when?

Is DoomZ worth building? I got several of it's cards in my DOOD booster box and it seems pretty cool.

>>97622510
The deck is good in theory simply because of the Mistake-on-legs equip trap going first but has a hard time going 2nd due to how they resource game. It's also kind of hard to pilot which you can practice for but it's some mental sequencing you have to be willing to do, it's not an auto-pilot deck IMO.
One thing of note is that it has a little bit of an edge in genesys because it has access to premature burial and a playset of it only costs 9 pts. It got 2nd in the proto YCS the other week too.
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/doomz-691967
I should note that it has upcoming cards that might change things in the deck. Not sure how much it changes though.

If I wanted to buy a Booster Box, should I get Maze of Muertos or Burst Protocol or HODL? (Overframes look cool). I don't really mind shit pulls but I just want something where I can get half a decent playing archetype and build the rest with singles.

>>97624279
I bought a box of DOOD and am now considering building a D/D/D or DoomZ deck.

>>97624279
Doom of Dimensions is functionally better as a deckbuildpack set (not to be confused with ACTUAL deckbuildpack sets) than Maze of Muertos. Most of the stuff in Muertos is worth pennies. It has a few really good imports, but that's about it.

>>97624480
>>97624365
I'm guessing DoomZ is the archetype that's playable? Honestly I did want to create a Dogmatika deck but I don't know how they play in the meta and my time in MD and holy fucking shit WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE HERALD GO FUCK YOURSELF. I guess it wouldn't be much of a problem in TCG but then I also got JURRAC'd on there and I was like what the fuck. Man Dogmatika needs a dump their extra deck but they can't activate shit when you do.

>>97624492
Radiant Typhoon is the playable archetype. DoomZ is okay, but it needs more time to bake before it's good.

>I did want to create a Dogmatika deck
Consider Dogmatika Regenesis

>>97621655
Wait what the fuck. Krosea's hit $30 for a single copy?
Fucking when.
I bought that deck around DOODs release and then thing was only like 2 bucks a copy.

>>97625675
Their new Link-1 made them viable

>>97621518
You'll either want to add 1 "Lyna the Light Charmer" (Grand Circle is not "up to 4" for its add but requires 4) or replace one of your current charmers with her. Then put in Familiar Possessed - Lyna.

As one of the revives off of Grand Circle, you can revive Lyna, and then Familiar Possessed - Lyna is able to special summon herself from Deck and add a Spellcaster with 1500 DEF from deck to hand.

A pretty wide pool, but the biggest one currently is "Spenta, the Magistus Sealer" (3x). Combo goes as such:
>Discard Spenta add "Crowley, the Gifted Magistus"
>Crowley special summons himself off of his add effect
>Fusion summon effect, Crowly + Lyna gives access to the Omni in Mechaba, or a destruction + beatstick with Augoedes.

Additionally, Spenta can banish himself to equip any of the Magistus monsters to your monsters, giving you access to their equip effects.

This does become slightly stronger later on, as one of the options in Artemis can then search out the yet-to-be-released Verre the Maid of Endymion for another summon and search. And of note if you lead with Spenta and get base Lyna on field, then equipping her with Artemis gives you the ingredients to summon Familiar Possessed - Lyna. The way Familiar Possessed is worded, the Artemis in the backrow can be sent to grave to satisfy the summon.

If you summoned back 4 charmers with Grand Circle, then with no normal summons used, you have Invoked Mechaba + 4 Material.

>need Medius the Pure
>$30 each
>DUAD box is $30
>make my money back if I pull Medius, SS Ace, or Secreterion
Is it worth it? This twink's getting reprinted soon, right?

>>97626093
DUAD was a notoriously shitty set, i would only try my luck if you can actually get it for $30. But no, medius won't be reprinted until next year, because elfnote is meta in OCG and it relies a lot on those cards, and kebrew jewart won't allow the goyim to use a cheap meta deck ever.

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>>97626093
Learn flag signals before you gamble.

This might be a strange statement. Why should you learn a skill, that is completely unrelated to playing Yugioh, instead of buying cards? It's similar to post-nut clarity, save for the fact that you also integrate a new skill into your skillset. You learn how to do stupid shit like flag signals or how to count in base 2 on one hand, then you come back to the idea of pulling the trigger on the purchase. With this newfound knowledge, is it really worth it to spend $30 on a set with the prospect of selling a $30 card?

Also, Medius is a Secret Rare in that set, so the chances of getting it aren't high. That's also something worth considering.
>https://www.ygoprog.com/PackOpener
Here's a pack opening simulator to give you a rough idea of your odds. I wouldn't go for it personally, unless there's other cards in the set that you might want.

>>97626093
You're literally debating a bird in hand vs 2 in the bush. Are you a logical person or someone who like's to gamble on odds not in your favor?
Also remember you have to actually move the cards you don't want but are money in order to "make your money back", otherwise it's a loss.

>>97626185
>>97626227
>>97626232
Fine, jeez. I don't think I'm going to pay $30 for Medius, though. I'll just wait for the reprint. Every other lore archetype protag's gotten a reprint exactly one year after their debut, so only a couple months of waiting.

Also Medius is both an Ultra and Secret in DUAD, for what it's worth.

>>97626257
He's a UR and STAR in the actual set and his SE print is a handed out promo from the set premiere at OTSs so it isn't something you can actually pull.
>>97626227 is also wrong.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Set_Card_Lists:Duelist%27s_Advance_(TCG-EN)
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Duelist%27s_Advance_Premiere!_promotional_card

>>97626232
>a bird in hand vs 2 in the bush
wut

>>97625938
Had some more thoughts on the Spenta Line.

Start: Grand Circle + any 2 other cards ("1.75" card combo)

>Grand Circle, getting any 2 other charmers + Lyna and Dharc to fusion summon Grand Circle
>Charmer Grand Circle fusion, revive Lyna, Dharc, 2 other Charmers
>Send Grand Circle + Lyna to summon Familiar Possessed - Lyna
>Lyna search Spenta
>Discard Spenta add "Crowley, the Gifted Magistus"
>Crowley special summons himself off of his add effect
>Fusion summon effect, Crowly + Lyna gives access to the Omni in Mechaba. Can alt go Crowley + Wynn for Raijin for a Book of Moon, or Crowley + Any for Aiwass for quick effect Change of Heart.
>Banish Spenta, equipping Artemis from ED to any
>Artemis search Magistus Monster
>Send Artemis + Spellcaster to GY to summon Chozoro
>Chozoro + Dharc send to grave to summon Familiar Possessed - Dharc
>Familiar Possessed - Dharc search any Level 3 or 4 LIGHT Spellcaster.

Hand: (Search: Magistus), (Search: Level 3 or 4 Light Spellcaster)
Field: Familiar Possessed - Dharc, Fusion Monster, 2 monsters (either 2 Charmers or 1 Charmer + 1 Familiar Possessed - Lyna)
Normal summon unused.

Magistus search likely to be a second Spenta for next turn. Silent Magician is the simplest search off Dharc, but other options could be:
>Dogmatika Ecclessia (Fusion monster allows for Special; Search effect locks ED)
>Incredible Ecclessia (Needs normal)
>Guiding Quem (Needs normal)
>Jowgen the Spiritualist (Needs normal and to be last monster summoned)
>Performage Trick Clown (Normal summon then send to GY revives once for 2 material no fuss)
>Centur-Ion Primera

Currently OCG only targets:
>Verre, the Maid of Endymion (Grand Circle allows for Special)
>Regulus, the Prince of Endymion (Spenta search sets up Special Summon)
>Fairy Tail, Matchlille (Specials summon; locks into Spellcasters)

>Buy official duelist portfolio
>Cards still slide around

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>>97626374
As I'd call it, this is your barest minimum for this line, stacking as many Spellbook of the Grand Circle searchers as possible.

Spenta and Crowley being about $14 a copy has them causing basically all of the listed price. 2/1 is the absolute minimum, but you may want a 3/1 or 3/2. Silent Magician can also easily go to 3, but her price tag is already below a $1 so that's barely needs mentioning.

Wynn/Hiita used as the min 2 other Charmers as Raijin/Purgatrio are the two best invoked fusions to consider.

Also in the list beforehand, I forgot one more Familiar Possessed - Dharc search target that needs the normal summon. Silvy of the White Forest.

And if you use the Magistus search to get Rillona, the Magistus of Verre and use your normal summon on her, she can search Trismagistus that can special summon any Level 4 spellcasters Dharc searches.

>>97626340
I assume you're ESL since it's mostly and english phrase.
It's an idiom about how you should value the secure but lesser option over the greater but chance option.
The OP is trying to chase the greater value "in the bush" by opening a box when a lesser but secure option is already provided to him "in hand" by buying the single.

>>97625938
>>97626374
So would it be good to go above 40 cards for this or who would you suggest cutting for the cards you're recommending.

>>97626481
I really like this though. I read about using Magistus instead of Horus, and the more you talk about it the more fun it sounds.

>>97626481
I think I'm going with 3 Spentas and 1 Crowley to start off with. But will eventually add 1 more Crowley.

Also another question about this variant of Charmers you turned me on to. What fusion spell should I use to fuse the various fusion monsters? Should I grab a common playset of Poly or just use the playset of Magicalized Fusion I have?

>>97626660
Going off my raw gut instinct? I say go for 60.

Grand Circle requiring 4 "Charmer" monsters means that those 4 end up being Hard Garnets as you want them anywhere but your hand or field. The two Familiar Possessed act as soft garnets as while they can be in hand you also want them in deck because they'd be taking up space in hand. Crowley at 1 can be a 7th garnet as needs to be added off of Spenta.

In a 40, this puts a really high threat on drawing one of them. 60 is not impossible, but less likely.

Garnets
1 x Hiita the Fire Charmer (Hard)
1 x Wynn the Wind Charmer (Hard)
1 x Dharc the Dark Charmer (Hard)
1 x Lyna the Light Charmer (Hard)
1 x Familiar Possessed - Dharc (Soft)
1 x Familiar Possessed - Lyna (Soft)

Main Players
3 x Spellbook of the Grand Circle
3 x Spellbook Magician of Prophecy
3 x Spellbook of Secrets
3 x Spenta, the Magistus Sealer

Search Targets
3 x Silent Magician
2 x Crowley, the Gifted of Magistus
1 x Awakening of the Possessed
1 x Possessed Partnerships

Unfuckening The Hand
1 x Terraforming
3 x Imsety, Glory of Horus (To discard Hard Garnets)
3 x Walls of the Imperial Tomb (Reset Soft or Hard Garnets)
3 x King's Sarcophagus (To discard Hard Garnets)
3 x Spirit Charmers (To discard Hard Garnets; Can add Familiar Possessed if Awakening or Possessed Partnerships got drawn, but not set Famliar Possessed.)

Needed Extra Deck
1 x Charmers of the Grand Circle
1 x Magistus Chozoro
1 x Artemis, the Magistus Moon Maiden
1 x of Mechaba, Raijin, or Aiwass
1 x Crowley the First Propheseer

This totals up to 38 cards main, 5 ED. I would lean towards also adding 3x Performage Trick Clown to increase the odds of getting 2 Spellcasters on board for "Crowley, the First Propheseer" to get the Spellbooks without your normal. However, you will sometimes need to normal summon to get 2 and this means a Magician of Prophecy becomes a 1/3rd chance of failure.

You are thereby left with 19 slots for non-engine and 10 ED slots to fill out.

>>97626899
How would you feel about running a Quintet Magician in this? I feel like it's totally doable as an alt-win condition.

>>97626899
To increase odds of not expending your normal summon even further, you could also add:
>3x Elzette of the White Forest
>3x Elzette, Azamina of the White Forest
But these are both going to end up pricier with basic Elzette being $5 a copy and Elzette Azamina being $12 a copy.

>>97626875
Fusion Spell 1 is Spellbook of the Grand Circle
Fusion Spell 2 is Crowley, the Gifted of Magistus's summon effect thanks to the Spenta search.

You likely won't need a 3rd to come up, as once you go past >>97626374 then the preferred play would be to Special Silent Magician using one of the Charmers for a Spell negate and then link off Familiar Possessed - Dharc + other Charmer/Familiar Possessed - Lyna for I:P Masquerena (I:P using her effect on your opponent's turn to link off with either Silent Magician or the fusion monster to make S:P after one of them used their effects). There's other options to go yet further, but those end up a bit more dependent on what's lying around aside from the stuff that was mentioned.

If you ever end up feeling the need for a third fusion at some point, then you just want to wait for Four Charmers in Profusion. It's effect would allow for you to revive Crowley on your opponent's turn alongside another Charmer to do another fusion then.

>>97626954
It is a possibility of being summoned with Spellbook of the Grand Circle. But I feel like your better bet for an ED would look more like:

2 x Charmers of the Grand Circle
1 x Magistus Chozoro
1 x Artemis, the Magistus Moon Maiden
1 x Invoked Mechaba
1 x Invoked Raijin
1 x Aiwass, the Magistus Spell Spirit
1 x Crowley the First Propheseer
1 x I:P Masquerena
1 x S:P Little Knight
1 x Selene, Queen of the Master Magicians
1 x Accesscode Talker
1 x Underworld Goddess of the Closed World
1 x Super Starslayer - TY-PHON
1 x ED Link-2 Charmer with favorable attributes

While Quintet is hard to out, Lunalight being in the format means people are running outs to Towers monsters like it.