just put an order of 10 new paints in the mail
wish me luck anons

>>97605446
Anon, you are ordering paints, not breaching a door in Ukraine or something. Chill out.

Is there a meaningful difference in effectiveness between ~90% IPA and 99%? I imagine there's some, but would 99% noticeable get paint/primer off more effectively?

>>97605463
probably nothing for removing acrylic paint. if you need something more aggressive, you need a different substance

>>97605463
Probably like 9% more effective. Just a hunch.

>>97605463
well if 40%-60% hand sanitizer is good and cheap enough then i would have to say the difference is around 9%

>>97605463
Well, instead of ten isopropanol molecules slamming into some tiny part of the paint you now have nine of them hitting that bit during the same time frame, plus five water molecules puttering by doing fuck all.

>>97605635
now that we have an actual chemist in the thread how dangerous would you rate breathing in IPA fumes
do you recommend some breathing apparatus or is it just healthy evaporated alcohol making you little dizzy

>>97605660
not dangerous at all? are you sticking your nose directly above the IPA? wtf are you doing amigo? a mask might not be a bad idea, but only to stop the splatter of acrylic paint from getting in your mouth/nose.

>>97605660
You are not breathing enough of IPA to make it dangerous. Acetone, at the other hand...

>>97605688
No, not even acetone. Obviously, depends on your user case, but if you are just using it to cement stuff, the exposure is imo nowhere near dangerous.

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Working on some Empire stuff.

>>97605688
>>97605717
point being almost every single time i come across some tutorial that deals with using IPA for stripping or cleaning 3D prints there is a disclaimer telling me to take proper precautions like a high end filter mask

>>97605758
>3d prints

that's because of the resin, which is 1000x more toxic than IPA

>>97605793
Seriously, go fuck yourself.
We've got an anon over in 3DPG who recently ran air quality tests while printing, both next to the machine and the next room over, with and without ventilation, and then ran the same tests while frying eggs in butter and frying fish in oil.
Frying fish in oil is many times more damaging to your health than 3d printing on the nightstand next to your bed while you sleep, you ever seen anyone wear a fucking rebreather for cooking fish?

>>97605840
thank you for the public service announcement im sure it will be remembered
i was just pulling the leg to point out how dumb this whole masking up thing was but you pulled the rug righ under my feet

>>97605892
>I was only pretending to be retarded
Uh-huh.

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anyone has a link to the vallejos new metallic colors swatch?

>>97605840
The PPM isn't what matters, it's what those parts are.

>>97605840
amigo, handling resin while cleaning it is not the same as a printing it on the other side of the room.

>>97605978
if you're a man you've been under a vehicle pulling wrenches at some point in your life, handling wd40, engine oil, grease, gasoline, diesel, etc... are all far more hazardous to your health by contact and inhalation then resin are.
If you haven't you're a pansy little pussy bitch and I can sort of understand why you're afraid.
Grow some fucking testicle hairs, and some testicles too while you're at it.

>all these dinguses responding to a classic bait

>>97605688
>Acetone, at the other hand...
...was sloshed around like water when I visited the polymer chemistry lab at my local university.

>>97605758
A mix of better-safe-than-sorry and arse covering.

>>97605840
And as was noted in that thread "VOC" is a huge group of chemicals that range from mostly harmless to literal nerve gasses. So just the VOC concentration alone won't tell you much about how dangerous something is if you don't know which VOCs it is you're talking about. It's kinda like a metallic compound detector that doesn’t bother to tell you if it's sodium chloride and haemoglobin it's detecting in your lunch, or arsenic trioxide and dimethylmercury.

>>97605992
>are all far more hazardous to your health by contact and inhalation then resin are.
Maybe they are. Maybe they aren’t. We don't know, and you sure as hell don't know.

>>97606073
>We don't know
Maybe you don't, but I do.

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allright primed them, I just can not decide on a color sceme yet, thinking about yellow, or a reddish purple

>>97606149
Did you prime them with a sandblaster?

>>97606149
Yellow stripes go hard on anything buggy, and yellow and purple are complimentary, as long as you avoid making them look like the Lakers it should look good

>>97606149
how were you planning on basing them
also why does every member of what i assume is a ravener squad look so different

>>97606168
nah tried out a new primer kinda shit, but it will not matter once the paint is on you will not notice anything, job of the primer is just to make the paint stick anyway

>>97606189
You can build them as a normal ravener squad, or the kill team hyperadept ravener squad.

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reposting goth vampire elf.
I should really try and finish the real things I was trying to get done this month though.

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>>97606189
I will prollyjust go for basic bitch rock/desert bases, like i did for my necrons

>>97606216
>I didn't get enough attention!
Disgusting.

>>97606238
If he was looking for feedback or advice and didn't get much then he's valid. If not and he just wants people to see it and say things, then he's a fag.

>>97606257
I think the reason anon only paints busts is because they are a much larger scale than the standard miniatures here so he can hide behind scale to make himself look more skilled, the sad thing is he clearly isn't a bad painter, but the bust posting never gets constructive criticism feedback, he only ever gets ass-kissing praise, so that's what he's posting for or he would've expressed frustration at the lack of critique awhile ago.
So he's just attention seeking.

>>97606238
>>97606257
Nta but I didn't see you faggots complaining about it in previous threads when anons were reposting so stop singling him out

>>97606216
i think the last one i saw was blended better than this

>>97606296
But anon, if we can't sperg out about the toxicity of acetone then we have to sperg out about something.

>>97606296
I don't live in the thread 24/7 so I'm not always around to call out a fag for being a fag.
I can see how that may be hard for you to understand though, given that you likely do (else you wouldn't be making this asinine statement).

>>97606321
post models

>>97606344
Funny, I don't see a model on your post.

>>97605921
I still don't understand this paint range. they call it tmm but it still comes in triads. if you're shading your metals it's nmm not tmm. am I completely misunderstanding what tmm means?

>>97606421
None of it means anything.
TMM was originally meant as a style where you did shade the metallics, but it was co-opted immediately by everyone to just mean normal metallic paints. So I think Vallejo is trying to go with the original meaning, but the term these days just means using metallic paint to most people.

>>97606421
Yes, but only because retards have applied the term incorrectly for years now.
TMM is applying the same thought process behind NMM and then using metallic paints, and often washes/glazes to do it. But that would be actual work, and they wanted to have a special word for slapping metallics + a wash on. The wash is not guaranteed.

>>97606421
they have metal paints instead of using not metal paints to make it look like metal. what's so hard to understand?

>>97606527
>>97606466
but isn't the point of metal paints that they look like metal by themselves? like if you are painting a b-29 with airframe aluminum you're done after the one paint color because that's what it's supposed to do.

its always funny reading through threads on 4chan that delve into personal safety.
someone will reccomend basic ppe, like a mask to stop you getting lightheaded or get paint in your mouth, and someone will call them worse than hitler and proclaim that its fine, and the repeated chemical exposure they put themselves through has had no issues, like suggesting basic "we dont know what these chemicals do long term, so maybe dont breath a lot of them" is some sort of personal offence.

personally i don't wear a mask while spray painting, since i do it outside, but i do wear a mask while handling uncured resin, because i hate the smell.

we had a guy at my flgs back in 2003 who woud literally get woozy from acrylic paint fumes, so he painted in a full respirator mask, we called him the toughness 1 guardsmen, and made sure to close up all the paints and kick on a fan before we all went to lunch, so the fumes would dissipate by the time we got back and he could game without it on.

>>97606557
I suggest reading something on how light works. What you describe would look flat as fuck because there would be no shading.
This video explains it well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS6eNT_38gw&t

>>97606591
>sloptube
Give me a peer reviewed and published paper on it or I'm not wasting my time on it.

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My knights, 3 more in the mail

>>97606557
it's basically just edge highlighting with different metal paints and putting dark washes in the recesses.

>>97606605
I am Vince's peer, and I have reviewed his work; it's fine

>>97606073
>was sloshed around like water when I visited the polymer chemistry lab at my local university.

My prof (from faculty of physics) back at uni was also pretty careless about acetone as cleaner but I was instructed by prof at faculty of chemistry to keep it under active ventilation and avoid breathing it in. I prefer that other opinion.

As for 3d resin printing, this shit does produce harmful fumes. I can still remember one guy who caused entire building at my institute to get evacuated after he accidentally dropped one bottle of this stuff to the floor. People reported nausea and headache while he insisted to occupational health and safety inspector that it's not a big deal and it's "completely harmless".

It took me a long damn time to realize that my paints are shit. I've bought some art paints some time ago and just used them and I've just sat down to test them against very few cheapest brand model paints I have (initially I only planned on painting model kits desu). Now everything's clear, it really isn't supposed to be this hard to paint. Fuck my life. Here are the minis I've been working on recently.

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>>97606731
Forgot, obviously

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>>97606559
im not the anon calling everyone who doesnt huff motor oil and like to get his hands dirty on a daily basis a little sissy faggot but he does have a point
people these days have become overly protective and afraid of pretty much everything, there is nothing wrong with basic common sense but there is a limit how low the bar should go until people become unable to do anything because they are afraid of everything

>>97606731
It's true. Sometimes it really is the tools.

Speaking about acrylic paint smell, I keep all my paints in closed plastic containers and I noticed that while Citadel ones basically have no smell when I open the box, TTC have some odd, soap-like smell, AK only very slight one, new Vallejo little worse but manageable but old Vallejo alway, always produce awful, intense smell similar to banana each time I open their box. I simply find that odd.

>>97606735
Would.

>>97606745
I simply wish that people would avoid falling into one or another extremes. Like one of my chemistry teachers at uni that wouldn't bother to wear gloves to pick up even wet stuff ("I won't eat me, relax") but she always made sure to wash her hands properly after that.

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ye going with yellow, tried out the meme way with pink undercoat

>>97606781
>wash hands after
The only real thing to do after handling resin
>>97606719
>Evacuated the building
Hypochondriac pussies
>people reported nausea and headaches
Women do that shit for no reason, especially after seeing a new medicine commercial that lists symptoms to consult a doctor about
>No honey, you do NOT have testicular cancer, for fuck's sake

>>97606798
Pink isnt a meamne its kino

Urs look good

>>97606321
No craftsperg, you singled him out because he posted a bust and getting asspained about that is one of your recurring shitposts. Go jump off a cliff, niggerfaggot

>>97607032
Schizofag, you call everyone craftsperg, take your meds

>>97607091
I'm sorry you have to samefag your slop to get any replies but don't take it out on other anons

>>97606719
As a lab chemist who uses a fuckton of acetone I'm personally much more concerned with the fumes catching fire than breathing them in

>>97607123
I still would recommend not using acetone inside without ventilation though

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All this autism, ragebait and nonsense...
Its giving me a sense of peace like you wouldnt believe.

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>>97606591
I'm sick of hearing this. do you know how metal works? discounting corrosion it's all the same color. the blade of a sword or the panels on an airplane are all going to be completely uniform. the whole point of metal paints is that they look like actual metal so you can paint your shit a single color, just like real metal would be.

>>97607204
trying too hard, craftsperg

>>97607217
https://youtu.be/GAol8To7ndk?t=146
look at the disc in this video. each color reflects light like real metal. trying to paint shades on with additional colors isn't going to make it look any more like metal than it already does. on the contrary it would only make it look less realistic.

>>97607230
>>97607217

>>97607242
are lacquers craft paints now?

>>97607204
>posts pic where the metal is showing dozens of different colors on single panels
lol?

>>97607276
do not fucking engage this cretin

>>97605731
Kino bright wizard, 3d?

>>97607276
how many different colors of paint do you think were used on a single panel in that image?

>>97605921
Shoutout to ancient copper. Love all three parts of it. The sterling silver I like too but I was not a fan of the shade.

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i think it's done, just need varnish and a base, tomorrow

>>97607311
Its super cool and full of S O V L, anon, I love it !

>>97607259
The schizo calls everyone that, the so-called craftsperg hasnt posted models in a week or so IIRC and they werent even bad, schizo never posts models though.

But adressing the topic, 99% of hobby metallics lack the reflectivity of po.ished metal, they're like stippled cast pot metals or unpolished brass plumbing fixtures, so they do need shadows and highlights.
Some anon recently posted a custodes in a truly polushed metallic gold paint that didnt need that, it caught light proper on its own, that is a very rare exception.

>>97607281
>>97607281
Better than engaging your schizo ass, yet im doing just that, so why not someone who is at least on topic?

>>97607364
>>97607371
>a minute apart
lol, lmao even

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Painting up some big robots and I don't know what to do for the bases, Normally I paint board games that come with some kind of textured base, so don't really have any ideas for what to do with them.

>>97607364
It's cute how you think everyone calling you out is the same person
>they werent even bad,
Yeah an all over coat of a single color with a couple white stripes is indeed very impressive

>>97607378
Yeah? I meant to put those together, not like im replying to one comment twice pretending to be two people like you do, schizo.

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>>97606798
looks great, the pink is a great undertone.

>>97607393
Im not saying the craftpainter is great, hes just competent, and the first stuff he posted which was nose art pinups was praiseworthy, particularly at that scale.
Yeah he got on a high horse after that about contrast paints which was autistic (look where we are though), but the nerve it struck with the fucking schizo here that's called everyone craftsperg for almost a year now is absurd, schizo must be a slapchop slopper to take it so personal.

>>97607486
>not like im replying to one comment twice pretending to be two people like you do, schizo
ironic

>>97607311
Looks good.
Diehard miniatures right? How much assembly do their skeletons have?

>>97607530
You dont know what that word means

>>97606216
She looks like she ruins expansions

>>97607364
>alclad
>mr super metallic
>ak extreme metal
>a bunch of smaller brands I can't remember off the top of my head
so these just don't count? you might as well just say "citadel and ap metallics suck and 99% of people refuse to use anything else for some reason."

>>97607615
at least I'm not an autistic shitposter that derails the thread about a hobby he barely participates in so there's that

>>97607628
Your shitty attitude aside, yes, people use hobby metallics that are known and spread throughout the community by word of mouth and wargaming focused advertising.

>>97607673
Now this is irony.

>>97607714
You dont know what that word means

>>97607719
Now how that works schizo

>>97607703
Let's see models you painted where you used those metallics.

>>97607728
Literally every model in this general to ever be posted with metallics except the aforementioned custodes.
You might want to cut the snarky bitch thing with the one anon to give your shit a serious reply, asshole.

>>97607703
you're acting like those aren't hobbyist products or that they aren't well known by scale modellers.

>>97607741
Fucks sake my bad I meant to reply to the earlier post >>97607628

>>97607744
Wargaming isnt scale modelling, no trains or planes here.

>>97607801
Oh, that explains it, different anon, different side of argument.
All good sir.

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Dont know why the exhaust looks suddenly super shitty but, here we are, need to attack the base now.

Noob question: How long should I wait to spray a gloss varnish for an oil wash after priming with Citadel sprays?

>>97607833
Still looks kino. I should get back to my forgefiend asap.

>>97607833
I'm really enjoying seeing this guy come together, nice work anon

>>97607837
It says on the can you should wait 15 minutes before painting over it so I'd assume it's the same time for spraying varnish.

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>>97607840
>>97607843
Thanks ! Will improve it further because I didnt correct many mistakes, plus I see that I missed some area to shade with the photo.

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>>97607567
yes
i have 4, for that one, basil and john only the shields are separate, and melcor is just one piece

>>97607833
>fiends
>we're fiends
>we're the fiends
>celebrating yet another birthday, team
>[cadia] it's your birthday today
>skulls and bloodshed, are on their way

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Took a break from painting some Tau to soak an old predator in simple green and restore it. I couldnt find anything of the old sponsons except a heavy bolter, so I had to bash my own together. Any ideas on how to make the door area looks less plain?

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>>97608206
front view of the sponson

>>97607917
Nice! I was pinning some of otherworlds skeletons and very thin metal is a huge pain to set up right, I'll tell you that for free
That's a good looking mini though, really nice rust effect for his armor, especially on the back

A few threads back, anon were talking about casting metal miniatures in silicon molds... So I started reading a lot about it. Are the spin-casting methods mostly done for higher consistency and speed, or do they capture details that much better?

For glazing gradients, it is better to use a medium with high surface tensions (ie. water) rather then low surface tension (wash medium), right?

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realized I never showed the finished version of this, so have a mime.

>>97608636
Looks a bit chalky. Phone filters? GW paint?

>>97608650
GW paint
wraithbone
honestly, I'd like to buy another an completely re-do the paint scheme, but this time just base it with wraithbone primer and add details.

it's so thick because I painted to whole model blue and decided I hated it, so I went back to wraithbone, but that shit is chunky as hell no matter how much you water it.

>>97608667
Yeah, I rarely see wraithbone ending up fully smooth. Maybe you could have thinned it further and done more layers, but this is simply not a problem with other off-white paints like. Hell, even pure white tends to be less chalky than that.

>>97608636
his gun looks like a dildo.Probably something from bad dragon.

>>97608694
yeah I'm fed up with GW paints in general.
the pink gemstones and the pistol are gundam marker.
>>97608711
Neuro Disrupteez NUTZ

>>97607311
Very nice. How did you paint the armor? I like the worn look of it

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I did a bunch of the basing on my Ruststalker conversions now that I'm rapidly approaching the deadline for saturday. At least this way, even if I dont finish the models themselves, they'll have a feeling of completeness.

>keep building conversions up until the point where I would need to do greenstuff
>abandon them

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>>97607492
I was thinking about using ared black theme too, but I went for the hive fleet LA lakers

>>97609489
>Lebron Trygon

>>97609245
base vmc steel, deep shadows with black ink, midtones with vmc exhaust manifold, rust with dirty down rust, then highlights and scratches with vmc pale burnt metal
the shoulderpads are vgc bright bronze shaded with ap dark wood, midtone with the bronze again and highlights with the bronze mixed with pale burn metal

>>97609495
Wow no way you mean its not just a coat of metallic of your choice? Unbelievable

>>97606735
>reptiles with mammaries
Gooners were a mistake.

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>>97609573
>lizards are cool
>boobs are hot
you gay or something?

>>97609495
thanks!

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Working some more on these Lokust Heavies. Getting close to done.

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Oil applied now I have to wait for it to dry and add some details

>painting a big model
>found a spot I forgot to prime
>don't wanna take out primer again
>just blast it with regular paint
>it's completely fine afterwards
I using a dedicated primer actually needed? Can regular paint be also used instead?

>>97609851
acrylic primer is just regular paint and that's what most people use. So yes.

>>97609904
This isn't true. Primer is noticeably more durable, and often contains some kind of solvent to help bond to the plastic.
Have you ever tried handling an unprimed, unvarnished model?
However, the paint will only rub off on places that actually get rubbed, it won't fall off on it's own without primer. If theres a small spot you missed with the primer, it shouldn't matter too much, and so long as the model is varnished, it will be equally durable (primer only matters while the model isn't varnished, ie while you're still painting it).

>>97609851
>>97609904
https://youtu.be/WS4bOtXeKGI

>>97609940
it's more important to watch the followup video:
https://youtu.be/QprguyGPE50

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Yo i heard you like trim so I got more trim for you after you finish your trim

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>this shit again

>>97605688
>Acetone
is not toxic to be inhaled in any quanitity youre going to be working with.
Youre body produces acetone itself, hell some diabetics literally breath off acetone and smell like nail polish remover

I was digging info around the net to figure out why AK paints keep drying inside the nozzle of my airbrush and turns out it's most likely paint specific case. Seems like it both needs retarder (not just flow improver), thinner instead of water and lower pressure than what people usually use (1.0-1.2 bar instead of 1.5-2.0). Some guy even claimed that Vallejo airbrush cleaner failed to properly clean it, creating "semi soft-sheet", with only lacquer thinner being able to properly dissolve it. Crazy. I guess I will have to use IPA then, hopefully teflone seals won't get damaged in any way. I can always just use Vallejo paints (somehow their new formula works really good with airbrush) but I simply wanted to stick to same paints since later I would move to normal brush for corrections and details. And it bugs me how guys like Jose Davinci casually use normal water with those, high pressures (2.5-3.0 bar) and only get dried tip, which is easy to clean within seconds.

Anyone also having some problems with AK paints in airbrush?

>>97606719
>physics fag that knows literally zero about chemicals is a faggot
No way!
My chem prof had ethol spray bottle fights with the lab manager

>>97607123
when i was looking into acetone vapor smoothing for 3dprints i saw a video of a guy purposely making electrical sparks inside a closed box with acetone vapor in it and nothing happened

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>>97608206
rivets!

>>97610355
I'm using AK (3rd Gen and IFV, to be clear) with Vallejo thinner/flow improver pretty much every day and I never had a problem like that. Considering I have nearly 100 AK paints, I would say you probably got some bad batch of paints/thinner.

>>97610586
i like the looted monolith

>>97610355
I never had any issues with airbrushing AKs paints using Vinces mix(8:2 thinner:flow improver)

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>>97607284
Yep. Printed a bunch of Empire themed stuff recently. I want to try out Old World.

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My apologies if this is a retarded question, but can any anons help me figure out the paints I’d need to replicate this scheme? I tried Castellan for the dark green and Elysian for the trim on a test model, but it doesn’t look right. Thanks in advance.

>>97610932
Green, metallic silver, black wash, orange, brown, yellow and white.
Trim must be done NMM.
oh and red for the eyes.

>>97610932
If you can't tell what colours to use just by looking at the bottles, you shouldn't bother, genuinely.
Just paint them with the colours you have, "close enough" is good enough for your skill level.

>>97611015
There's virtually nothing valuable in this post whatsoever.

>>97611025
he's right though, those are the correct colours and mix-ins for that scheme

>>97611015
>>97611024
Thanks guys

>>97611025
Paint doesn't need to be called "syphilus pus" or "asscrack shadow" anon.

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Here's the comparision shot
Left to right: Tamiya X-13, Citadel Akhelian Green over Leadbelcher and drybrushed with runefang steel, Vallejo TMM turqoise and the complimentary wash.
Overall, the base turqoise metallic looks very close to a 1:1 mix of Akhelian Green and Contrast medium, hue is something inbetween.

I think it's a very good candidate for painting Alpha Legion if you're looking for a something straight out of the bottle that can be applied with a brush and airbrush without having to resort to chemicals.

>>97611141
>anon asks for a specific colors
>hehe green

what the fuck is with this thread lately, can you tourist niggers to back to your containment generals already

>>97610932
>>97611015
Don't be afraid to try mixing your paints. You can do a lot by adjusting warmth. Even the dark green on most of the armor there is actually multiple colors. For instance, on the legs it's much darker in some places (almost black) and in other places it's a much lighter green.

>>97611149
Also, pardon the sloppy wash application, I was doing this while still sick.

>>97611149
the chemicals are what makes it fun though...

>>97611152
That is a specific color.
Anon will never paint anything that looks like that picture because there is a wide scale of hue on every panel AND he wont be viewing it against a cream background.
That 2D image sure as shit wasn't coliured with Citadel (TM*) pots, was it?

>>97611149
Thanks. How does the wash look on something like silver, is it pretty strong or light?

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>>97610932
>>97611015
I think you might be on the right track with Castellan Green, but you'll have to wash it. Something dark like a black or dark brown wash to make it suitably yucky.

What about using Typhus Corrosion to dirty it up? GW still makes that, don't they? I did something similar for my Imperial Bastion.

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>>97611192
I don'tt have anything in silver currently on hand, except for actual bare metal miniatures lol. Wash looks pretty strong, something between a regular was and contrast probably.

Below, you have just the base color, it seems to be noticably brighter without the wash.

>>97611249
Forgot to mention, but the wash is on the thicker side(hence the patchiness), might probably best to thin it with something, maybe flow improver?

>>97611249
Interesting. If I get my hands on the paint, I'll probably thin it. Haven't had a lot of experience with washes that aren't black or brown, but I've found what I have tried ironically darker than things like Nuln Oil or VGC black wash.

>>97611149
i was thinking of using the new TMM turquoise for my Tau crisis suits. good idea or bad idea?

>>97611190
>crickets chirping
That's what I thought.

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>>97610593
danke

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>We don't really need to worry about priming our minis
>As long as you varnish it at the end I'm told the first coat is equivalent to a primer

>>97611546
who the fuck are you quoting you shitstirring retard

>>97611569
>somebody makes a joke
>REEE STOP SHITSTIRRING
you need to take a break from this site

>>97611441
Might look good, but I'd pair it with some non-metallic elements in there as well.

>>97611569
This guy. >97609937

>>97611169
I’ll have to give that a try, and also play around a bit with washes. Thanks, anon.
>>97611208
Yeah, like I said to the other anon, I definitely need to play around with washes, but Castellan really seems like the best match. Typhus Corrosion has grit in it to mimic crust and/or rust, so it wouldn’t be great, but maybe some streaking grime after an agrax wash would get me where I want to be. Thanks, anon.

>>97611581
i was thinking the frame would be black/dark gunmetal and the armor panels would be the turquoise

>>97611578
excuse me for not getting the joke when the entire thread is full of pointless shitposting

>>97611546
It's true, though.
Why do you think priming simply did not exist in any older Citadel painting guides? The undercoating was always done with a normal thinned acrylic paint, and it wasn't mandatory.

>>97611604
I meant like some patterns and stuff, Without airbrush and masking tape it might be hard to pull off though.

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>>97611632
>You didn't see any chipping on the edges

>>97611654
isn't that what decals are for?

>>97611697
Sure, but decals aren't always exactly what you want.

>>97611674
If you let the acrylic properly cure, there won't be any chipping on the edges.

>>97611777
Thanks anon I needed a laugh

>>97611787
I know you never even tried it.

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>>97611777
>They told them that acrylic paint works as a primer if you let it cure long enough.
>they gave them the GW 'undercoat' propaganda
I don't care, I'm just /rbmk/-posting because I think it's funny, you don't hef to be mad

I coated some of my crappy terrain with pva+varnish+black acrylic combo to start and I don't know, I don't feel like I got the mix right or something. I'll see tomorrow when I try to paint one of them.

>>97611845
>pva+varnish+black acrylic combo
what's the point of that?

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Who else has magnetized their knights? Y’all got any tips?

>>97611854
actually don't know about the varnish, I was just curious if that helps
otherwise the PVA is to make surfaces harder, XPS foam is soft without it and the cardboard parts could use some glue reinforcement too anyway
the paint is just a basecoat and to add shadow into hard to reach little spots
also they are kind of a primer, my foam has this hole-y surface and pva helps to fill those

>>97611950
We have the same generic cheapo pin vise!
twinsies!

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>>97611950
>Arrange your Knight's carapace so you can remove it to access the chest cavity.
>Line the inside of the chest cavity with soft foam.
>Insert a really small Bluetooth speaker.
Now he has his own soundtrack!

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>>97611950
i just did 2 amigers myself. i used 5x2mm circular magnets.

for the top part I removed the little circular part that the gun get's clam shelled around. then the 5x2 magnet is a little too big to fit into the spot in the gun, so I used a knife to ream out the top of the slot until there was enough room to fit the magnet flush. you don't want to touch the bottom level so there's something for the magnet to rest on. I just used super glue, but if you want to be fancy you can fill it in with green stuff. I didn't think it was necessary because it will be covered by the other magnet.

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I knew I shouldn't apply edge highlighting here but I couldn't resist. I'm sorry.

>>97612061
Why not? I'm actually curious how it'd look fully edge highlighted. It looks pretty cool on Tau suits, why wouldn't it work here?

>>97612079
Someone argued last time that scale models of ~18m tall robots shouldn't be edge highlighted due to their size and scale. Then again, many techniques produce effects that are completely unrealistic (like multiple points of light) but people do them anyway since they look cool.

>>97612061
That blue continues to sell the ACU look.

>>97611015
>Trim must be done NMM.
explain why something like clear green over chrome wouldn't work

>>97612352
because you then can't flex your epeen for doing NMM

>>97611190
No, "green" is not a specific color. Not even with oil paints. It tells nothing about the warmth or tone.
Anon can paint something that looks like that picture if he gets a list of paints used, in what ratios, and in which order. He can also mix his own paints, if he gets something more specific than just "green lmao"
That retardation about the rest of the colors listed, let alone NMM is not even worth commenting.

>>97612417
how much more obvious would he need to be for you to realize it's bait not worth responding to

>>97612429
I'm sorry anon, I'm not having a good day.

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Almost done with the helstalker head.

I think I'm going to start rolling a dice to decide for me which project I'm going to work on so that I don't just pick none and get nothing done.

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After adding edge highlighting to blue and red on my scratchbuild project, it's time to move to adding markings and lines, before going for (subtle) weathering. Problem is - I cannot really decide on what should I use. This is supposed to be machine for local ace so I guess it would fit to add some "heraldry" so maybe Salamanders symbol on one shoulder and, since he uses this clan colors, Hojo clan mon. But what about the rest? I have some decals from GW kits, including Tau sheet from (old ed but identical to current box) Broadside battlesuit but without any idea what exactly these symbols mean.

I don't trust myself to do freehand kanji symbols. Yet.

>>97609489
>>97609644
That's really cool, anon. When I was a kid I had some purple and orange 'nids.

>>97612417
>if he gets a list of paints used
Thats a 2d image, no fucking model paints were used, idiot.

>>97612698
Braindead.

>>97612061
I think it's good, I'm honestly curious to see how it'd look done across the entire model.
>>97611468
That is really cool, it sells the scrapyard look so well!
>>97609603
Blue+orange is always a very eye-catching scheme. I don't know what your plan is for the weapons but I'd suggest doing at least parts of them in a dark color for some contrast.
>>97607833
I think you might've went a bit overboard with the OSL but he's still really cool! I feel like adding some bruising on the skin would look good.
>>97607311
I really like how you painted the armor, it has a great weathered feel to it.

>>97607381
No one have any advice for basing?

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...i might need some sleep

>>97612899
The ass slap of slaanesh

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>>97612896
>No one have any advice for basing?
These are super robots like Mazinger or Gunbuster right? So a much bigger scale than Battletech? What about a suitably tiny urban landscape around them with little buildings? You could make ruined buildings out of cut-up sprues!

>>97612914
the greater mark of slaanesh

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>>97612949
They are approximately office building size.

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Anyone do urban rubble basing have any recommendations for ground scatter? I was thinking coarse grey kitty litter, sprue bits, and maybe copper wiring but I'll take any ideas for more variety

>>97613048
tiny bricks.
litter, like little cut out newspapers, and stuff like that.

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>>97612869
Obviously when everything will be put together it will give better idea but red parts are minority, model is mostly kept in blue shades.

Don't know if you are the anon who was posting with Yuru Camp pics but if so - these were cute and I really appreciate your good work.

>>97613048
Small green stuff cylinders could be soda cans. If you're a little more skilled you could make soda bottles and slurpee cups as well.

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>>97613048
I once got some foam-like material for dioramas that I started to cut and use as bricks and it works really nice due to it's "sponge-like" surface.

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>>97613048
Do you have Citadel's box of skulls? There seem to be a lot of bleached bone skulls littering the ground in post-apocalyptic settings.

>>97612707
That's funny coming from a slackjawed halfwit sheeple npc that needs a pot of paint to be labeled Nurgle, Rot, Pus, Foetid, etc... to feel like it is okay to use it on a plague marine.
Does GW hold your hand when you tie your shoes as well?
Green is green, faggot, you can adjust tone by adding a little bit of another colour, that's what a fucking palette is for.

>>97613064
Yeah that's me. I thought they were cute too but there's no point is using them if someones gonna get angry about it. I'll drop them, at least for a while

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>>97613239
NTA, which green do you mean?

>>97613269
You can start with any of them as a base and arrive at any of the others.
CYMBW motherfuckers.

>>97613280
lmao

>>97613269
Maximum green purely on the name

>>97613280
That's not actually how CYMBW works. You can only arrive at colors through a curve towards them on the color wheel/cylinder, you leave out all the brightly saturated colors around the edges, which is why pigments are important and every color paint isn't just a mix of the same 5 pigments, and why pantone uses 18 base colors for example (still not perfect, but much closer)

>>97606216
I really like your rough edged cell shading style, like an old printed comic book. And nice shading on the face.

>>97613719
I think that's just a sketch, he's going to blend it later

>>97613719
Kek.
With praise like this, who needs critics?

>>97613048
i cut up some plasticard sheets into small rectangles. could make them look like bricks or concrete slabs

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Spent the weekend making a grass terrain board. Plopped some minis on it to take some photos. Super happy for how this turned out for my first attempt.

>>97613936
that bust already looks better than anything you've ever painted

>>97614031
>third party butthurt
Kek.

Anyone know what size the Army Painter Highlight brush is? Big fan of the size but maybe I can find something better

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>>97610586
Took the advice and added a bunch. I really like the result

Whats a good wash mix for metallics?

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>>97611149
Super useful info anon. I was planning on starting my loyalist AL army soon, and currently Im on the akhelian green train.

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>>97611950
I realised at one point that I really didnt give a fuck if the magnet was visible and just cut the nub off the upp arm and sanded it flat. Did the same to the connector to the weapon and its been fine ever since. I would recommend magnetising the plate-shield thing the gun sits on as well because knight kits have more guns than bodies for the guns to sit on. If you have access to a 3d printer or if you mean to get more guns anyways then I wouldn't bother.

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Chapter Master for my custom legion for a 4th Edition Narrative Campaign I'm prepping for. Very happy with how it is coming along.

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>>97615296
Working lore in my head is scavenged Necron tech used to super power a Tartaros suit.

>>97615255
Happy to be of help! I love Akhelian Green, but it's such a pain in the ass to fix any mistakes once something goes wrong.

>>97614292
>b-butthurt!
try harder next time, paintlet

>>97613989
Looks alright, does it shed a lot?

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gave the cape a little texture

>>97614292
bad bait

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Red

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Primed and base colored the grot biker gang. Wondering if it was a good decision to base them in metallic since now I'll need to paint the rest of colors over metallic.

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>>97615094
>Whats a good wash mix for metallics?
For gold, I found that using Darkoath Flesh Contrast Paint instead of other paints marketed specifically for washing (Seraphim Sepia, which is too light, or even Agrax Earthshade!) makes a nice rich gold colour.

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>>97616816
Adding to that, you can get a very nice shadow color for gold by adding some purple tones. I use a 1:1 mix of gore-grunta fur and magos purple contrasts but you can just as well use something like reikland fleshshade and druchii violet.

>>97616816
I don't know if it's any easier, but for the muzzle burn, I painted it bronze, did a light airbrushing of red ink on the barrel, then airbrushing blue ink on the tip of the barrel, letting a little overspray into the red.

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i gave painting white a shot and looks like i missed some jewerly
should i spice the claws up with little bright violet drybrush

>>97617234
A nice fade on the claws would probably look cool.

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Sprayed a little bit too around somehow so I will need to correct that tomorrow. I honestly thought that I don't need more masking tape on the one on the right since I can just get close up - turned out that it still sprayed around a little bit. I also assumed that Salamanders decal will fit.

But overall I'm sad that even Vallejo paints started to dry inside the nozzle and that despite keeping low pressure and small trigger movements it still sprayed around. No, I cannot afford H&S stuff, sorry.

>>97617603
you successfully made some crooked and uneven stripes, congrats.

what make of airbrush are you even using?

>>97617693
FA-190X. No idea what exactly it is based on. Uneven now but I guess they will look a bit more convincing when "weathered" later.

>>97617603
Nu-vallejo is not very good unfortunately. I've had the most issues spraying them with an airbrush out of all the hobby brands I've tried(Citadel, AK, TTC)

>>97617722
Maybe but I had very same issue with AK paints so it's definitely problem with this particular airbrush. Sooner or later (sooner if I spray less paint with smaller trigger movement) paint start to form layer around the needle, at region where the nozzle is. I have little info about that problem since every search for paint drying problem returns discussions about tip drying instead. Maybe "floating" nozzle design is much more sensitive to imperfections and air could somehow blow back and thus drying paint inside. No idea at all.

>>97605840
Wet is wet, but wet with acid and wet with water is really not the same.

>>97616816
Unfortunately I actually meant silver. Will write this down for if I ever paint gold though.

>>97617774
I have experienced this same thing with Mr Hobby Creos & a H&S; which are of very comparable quality and only one of them was 100$ USD.

I mostly use Tamiya paints and suchlike through my airbrushes for reasons like this (easier to clean).

What are you thinning your paint with?

>>97618315
nobody gives a fuck, don't reply to a 25 hours old shitpost you doofus

>>97618336
>I have experienced this same thing with Mr Hobby Creos & a H&S; which are of very comparable quality and only one of them was 100$ USD.
This sentence is useless if you don't say what specific airbrushes are you using, anon.

>>97618341
fuck off dork this isn't reddit

>>97618336
Vallejo dedicated airbrush thinner and flow improver, usually 4-1 thinner-improver ratio and 1-1 of this mix to paint. Tried adding a bit of retarder too but it didn't help. If I only understood the mechanism behind this drying since obviously paint should dry on tip first as this is the place where stream of air hits the paint. Unless I got it all wrong.

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>>97605414
I have been working on 3 kitbashes in the past week for my templars, I'm finally almost done, just needs to smooth out some details.

Here's my proudest creation, loosely inspired by a certain artwork, a beer to the anon that recognizes it

>>97618400
Is it sailor moon?

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And I seriously wonder if this is the problem with this nozzle design. So called "floating" nozzle is supposed to be locked in place by the cap and center itself around the needle, with air flowing through the "channels" around it (pic related), unlike normal nozzle that is screwed in. But it must sit tight on (teflone) seal since otherwise it would cause backflow and bubbles, which does not happen.

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>>97618400
Love it.

>>97618400
Riveting.

>>97618400
Lovely job, anon.

>>97618404
No, but close enough really

>>97618415
A beer and many thanks

>>97618452
>>97618423
Thanks lads, and I'm done with rivets for a while

>>97618400
Great stuf anon
How'd you do the TOOBZ?
one of those greenstuff rollers?

>>97606616
All these boys need is a good dip in the wash and they are perfect

Do you guys use special tools for taking photos of your minis? There are a lot of good photos with nice backgrounds and vivid colours itt.
Could you give some pointers?

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>>97618717
a bright desk lamp, a lightbox(or a couple sheets of paper) and a phone is all you need really

>>97617603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEmImXbrhGQ
according to this video the air and paint should only be mixing at the tip of the needle. so if you are getting paint clogging the needle further back your shit must be leaking internally.

>>97618582
No, they are leftover bits from here and there
GS would have been the smart choice, less painful to make it fit

>>97618768
If it leaks, which part exactly would cause this behaviour? Airbrush contained spare seals, I also bought spare needle before. Don't have spare nozzle but its available, would need to order it and ship, however.

>>97618717
A homebrew infinity wall, a usb light and my phone.

>>97618354
GSI Creos 270 ps and H&S Ultra 2025? I think. The Creos (cheaper one) is a a but harder to clean and needs to get disassembled.

>>97618381
by nature of... the air part of the airbrush... you will have air in the forward part of the tubey-nozzle bit. I've found that taking less breaks between starting and stopping painting helps this somewhat (basically what this: >>97618768 anon is saying, but I didn't watch the video). But, again, Tamiya alcohol acrylics are easier to clean out than traditional acrylics, because of their ability to be reactivated with isopropyl.

Good luck <3

>>97618400
That bolt doesn't line up with the weird underslung barrel?
>>97618381

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fugg

I also hate buying specialty airbrush cleaner.

>>97618717
put 2 pieces of printer paper inside my airbrush hood one on the back, one on the bottom

>>97618849
it's that's just dried acrylic paint, you can just use IPA and a qtip

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it's done
i gotta say, i like him a lot

>>97618862
I do dip the tip of the brush into a thingy of iso. I'm assuming anon is talking about buildup just inside the nozzle and not on the exterior tip.

... and that doesn't change the fact that the alcohol based acrylics clean easier with iso than regular acrylics.

>>97618875
fantastic stuff anon. great juxtaposition of clean and dirty

>>97618400
That's awesome. Can you post the other 2?

>>97618849
Jesus Christ nigga, if your airbrushes look like this, no wonder you are getting weird problems.

>>97618953
the outside of the cup has no influence on how the airbrush performs

>>97618895
Yeah, inside the nozzle. Somehow tip is fine and clean all the time.

The only case where this was not happening was when I sprayed Vallejo primer from their mecha color line and in odd combination of adding 8 drops of flow improver and just 2 thinner to 10 drops of primer. I was not sure how much I should use so I started looking specifically for this primer and found Vallejo own video where guy was making this odd mix so I said "why the hell not".

But with primer I didnt attempt to make thin lines or spray small amount by only partially move trigger back so maybe there is something with that...

>>97618957
Yes, but it is a good hint about how you treat things.

Does anyone know a bright orange that isn't fucking water? Something to highlight troll slayer orange with that isn't the consistency of a shade

>>97619028
>tools get dirty when you use them a lot
woah

>>97618839
the air and the paint are supposed to follow different paths through the airbrush body. they aren't supposed to mix until inside the end cap.