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Play tabletop games
Post minis

>>97615500
TQ: looks like new "factions" are the implication.
First Order and Resistance? Hutts and Mandalorians?

>>97615509
Should have another batch of corpos/security troopers sealed and photographed tomorrow.

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So, we still have a few shatterpoint events on this year. I don't mind playing a game with limited to no releases (partly selfish as I feel most of the characters I care about got released) but I think Amg/Asmodee are absolute dogshit at communication, and the last years limited releases had alot of our players fall off. If this was handled better I would think we could still get more new players, right now I can see the scene lasting a while, and even today we heard from some new people but I doubt it will last. Good thing the game is fun casually I guess, keyops was unironically fun.

>>97615518
I could see it. They have already announced:
>a geonosian battleforce
>mad max battleforce for Bike Grievous
These were sort of "soft annouced":
>hutt cartels
>pirate battleforce
>gungan battleforce

I would personally really like yo get more /your dudes/ kits, the customisable commanders were great. They hinted at customizable bounty hunters in interviews too.

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Chewie was my first furry experience.

>>97615518
>First Order
One can hope.

>>97615518
>>97615820
they are putting out sequel shit for shatterpoint, is it could be likely

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>>97615518
>Mandalorians
If we get a Mando army, I will painting them up as Neo-Crusaders, with leaders and heavies and grunts and everyone being the current colour, as GOD intended!

>>97615909
>Neo-Crusaders
Kino king shit. I like you.

>>97615909
>Neo-Crusaders
Based

Love their overall design. I would have liked it if each suit had a little more personalization. If I remember the case it was that way in the various comics while still having a generally uniformed appearance.

>>97615949
The uniforms were meant to look the same and standardised because Mandalore wanted to bring the various peoples under his command closer together, this + old game makes me accept the "attack of the clones" situation lol
The comics do have more variance though, with things like cloaks and armour designs being present

>>97615909
If they released a Neo-Crusader box I'd be all over that lol

>>97615667
>>a geonosian battleforce
How? There's one unit and a hero box.

>>97615518
Yeah, they will release Hutt and Mando stuff to go with the Mando movie. I think it's pretty noteworthy that there no excitement due to the shitty marketing.
I'm still not hopeful about the movie itself, after Mando S3 and BoBF that character was finished and forgotten for years.

And let's not forget the utter shitshow Disney started with the New Republic Rangers that then ended in a woke apocalypse.
They just kneecapped their oen streaming universe, and now stand there asking 'Why do the evil fans hate us? They were supposed to eat the slop!'

>>97617129
You also carry water for Disney when you use empty buzzwords. Just evaporates any room for more substantial critiques of their fuckups to gain traction.

>Not a single "Tales of" episode involves the First Order, the Resistance or is even set in the Sequel eta
Lol
Lmao, even

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>big company announcement was mcp board game
jesus christ, hey speaking of bossfights amg where is that early 2025 Luke/Vader galactic legends rules drop

>>97617487
tales ranking
Dooku>Ventress>Cad Bane>Ahsoka>Morgan>Barriss

tales of the empire was shit but at least the morgan episodes didnt piss you off

>>97618262
>Barriss
Episodes had gender language shit and therefore all involved in the creation of them must burn alive.

>>97618262
Tales with Dooku is my new episode 1 and 2. (And I like TPM)

>>97618322
Go paint minis. You'll feel better.

>>97617175
The only empty buzzwords here are in teh AMGF statement, and whatever Disney shits out.
But feel free to continue your defense of the billion dollar company, they sure need it.

>>97618602
"Hey can you have a better takedown of what Disney is doing so we're not just repeating the tenth year of Nu Ghostbusters bullshit?"
Yeah anon, I really went to bat for the mouse there.

>>97618595
YWNBAW

>>97618622
>a better takedown of what Disney is doing
I don't want a le epic takedown, I want them to stop smearing shit over the franchise and calling it chocolate coating.

>the tenth year of Nu Ghostbusters bullshit
They've been doing that exact same thing for a decade, and they wil not stop until WE stop giving them money. They don't care about our opinions, our outrage, their 'allies' outrage, their virtue signalling, or anything.
They used to not care about money, either, but that apparently changed after Acolyte bombed.

>>97619122
You don't want to see where we agree, you just want to be angry.

>>97619183
I just find you calling the word 'woke' a buzzword ridiculous, and willfully ignorant of what Disney has been doing.

>>97619288
What the fuck else is it in 2026?

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>>97615509
my friend printed me my heroforge mini that I made for my character in our FFG FaD campaign. I've never painted a mini (or anything for that matter) in my entire life

>>97619507
>my character
That's just Savage

>>97619507
Practice makes practice. You'll always have a soft spot for your first mini.

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>>97615500
Curious to hear thoughts. Asked this in a previous thread.

I'm running an Edge/AoR campaign here and playing with two different alternate history set ups. I'm interested to hear which one seems more interesting to play in.

Scenario 1: Post Endor. The Emperor has survived. Vader, Luke, and the second Death Star have not. The vast majority of the Rebel Fleet have been destroyed. Many rebel heroes are dead/missing. For how closely it was that his life was taken, Palpatine has now decided that superweapons are not the best method to rule by fear. Instead, he will accelerate the machines of control, of force. He will tighten his grip on the freedom of all galactic people. He will have the kind of control that will preclude a rebellion from happening in the first place. Theme: overwhelming oppression, desperation, fighting against tyranny, trying to find hope out of despair

Scenario 2: Post Endor. Palpatine is dead. Unfortunately, so to are Luke, Vader, Leia, and most of the Rebel alliance. While they succeeded in destroying the Death Star, much of the Rebel leadership has been lost in the battle. The Empire has now balkanized into warring factions, Moffs, Warlords, and sector authorities. Many of these are vying for ultimate control. The leading powers are directly from the Imperial Ruling Council who still hold firm to the ISB and maintain control of Galactic Center (Coruscant). Warlords consolidating their power to key systems have allowed for vacuums in imperial law enforcement and both piracy as well as more organized crime now runs rampant in the outer and mid rim sectors. Rumors are that there is a particularly talented Imperial commander who seeks to re-unite the Empire. Will they serve as a more benevolent autocrat? Will re-establishing the Empire bring order to the galaxy? Or will it rob it of newfound freedom. Theme: wild west, uncertain futures, much more crime heavy

>>97619752
Kill Palpatine. It'll give you more room to take the story.

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are crit builds as degenerate in practice as they are on paper? How does the GM balance around it without completely negating the other players' ability to interact with critical injuries?

>>97620104
Yes and no. In a purely white room, lots of exp, superior weapon for the symbols, yes, absolutely, even Darth Vader only reduces crit rolls against him by 30. In practice actually getting piles of them is hard, anyone you can actually hurt regularly is probably a mook because adversary or whatever the name of that upgrade talent (Sorry, been a while) for difficulty that important npcs have tends to eat your symbols, and if you can do that much to someone you're probably already mutilating them in normal combat. I think Assassin has the most at 3 talents in the tree, and it won't really help with anything that isn't an actual assassination - you need to burn rounds to reduce defence from the enemy, etc. At that level of play everyone is killing one mook/round, so even if you combine across.. I don't know, bounty hunter and assassin, everyone else has their own One Weird Trick. The T7 is a pretty good weapon for that sort of thing, though.

>>97619752
I'd go with 2, partly because I like the whole Imperial warlords thing in general, but mostly because chaos is a PC's natural habitat. If they decide they feel like liberating the oppressed in between smuggling/pillaging/murderhoboing they have the option of picking a fight with one of the moffs.

>>97615509
do people print these from scratch?

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>>97620511
I agree completely. It also opens up a lot of room for any sort of play they desire. You can also introduce a threat in a dangerously competent Warlord.

Thoughts on non-Canon Thrawn as a main force in re-establishing the Empire? (Not enjoying the direction the Ashoka series is taking him)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9jiQBFp7Ik

>>97619752
Option 1 sounds like a less interesting post episode 3 campaign.
Option 2 sounds like a less interesting post episode 6 campaign

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>>97620752
>Thoughts on non-Canon Thrawn as a main force in re-establishing the Empire?
Maarek Stele flies for Thrawn and for the Empire!

>>97618262
Dooku is the only good one.

Bane is ok but ultimately just a western tribute.

>play in a tours of duty campaign
>separatists Vs separatists
>we both have the same story arc
>we both choose "the long game", meaning getting agenda points for going second
>We tie every single card in terms of pips
>"win" 4/5 roll offs, going first
>my opponent progresses his agenda 3 times. I progress mine 0
>I win 12-0, which means nothing in TOD
>my opponent is ahead by like 6 xp
Pain.

the different eras of Star wars Writing styles
>>>OT era (1977-1999) writing
>campy sci-fi adventures with hints of eastern philosophy, largely lighthearted fun
>Examples: Most tie-in books of the 80s
>>>Prequel Era (2000-2013) writing
>Greek tragedies with an almost obnoxious level of philosophy discussion, following the age of grim and edginess of the mid-late 00s with occasional lighthearted comic relief
>Prime examples: Dark Lord Trilogy, Marvel Republic comics, Darth Bane, KOTOR
>>>Filoni/Disney (2008-2013, 2014-now) writing
>full blown cash-grabs extremely reliant on nostalgia-baiting, Retcons, and nothing else, trying hardest to be both campy adventure and Greek Tragedy but largely lacking the actual imagination required for it to work. very few actually good works while most are, at best, okay, and at worst, garbage.
>Prime Examples (the few that are actually good): the Cal Kestis games, the spinoff movies (Rogue one and Solo), Rebels, Andor, Mandalorian (first 2 seasons)

Most Star Wars fans are evil retards and deserve death.

>>97623595
>Greek tragedies
I mean, maybe they tried to be, but the execution was godawful

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>>97623784
That would be a mercy kill at this point.

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Wonder if by some miracle we will get Yoda and Palpatine, that would be every major character from the films

>>97623504
You won the battle but lost the war, or something

>>97623595
>few that are actually good
>Andor
lol

>>97624640
Andor was pretty good

>>97624649
Not really.

>>97624652
Yuh huh, my only gripe is the first arc of each season is kind of weak.

>>97624664
Every arc is pretty weak.
Mainly because most of the characters are non-entities except when they need to give an I’M ACTIIIIIIIIING speech directly to the camera but also plenty of other reasons.

>>97624691
Ah, a retarded /tv/ refugee, should've guessed

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>>97618322
>Episodes had gender language shit
qrd?

>>97625115
they/them jedi, that's it

>>97625021
So popular it got its season order cut in half.

>>97621713
Maarek Stele is canon.
Nothing disney is canon.
Disney make STUR WOZ.
Disney does NOT make anything in the STAR WARS ip.

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I heard they sundowning Shatterpoint and putting it on life support like they did with x-wing, shame.

>>97625561
So popular they made a second season.
Unlike Kenobi, BoBF, Acolyte and whatever cloneslop cartoons tehy made.

Only Filoni's waifu gets a 2nd season.
And Andor.

Andor was the best Star Wars since R1, and R1 was better than the prequels.

>>97623784
Why don't you start us off, then?

Who's gonna tell him Bad Bitches got three seasons?

>>97626128
I'm not a Star Wars fan anymore :)
Fuck Star Wars and fuck its stupid evil retard fans!

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>>97625852
I will fucking well use whatever Disney made if it's cool.
Like TIE Strikers and TIE Reapers.

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>>97626144
proves it's the best show

>>97625561
>>97626031
The Neilsen ratings are quite interesting. Book of Boba Fett actually did rather well, Obi Wan was slightly worse.

Acolyte's debut and it's finale did "Just ok" numbers, but the rest of it flopped hard. Andor did much the same as Bad Batch, where it started ok, went down to middling, then shot up to Book of Boba Fett numbers at the finale (I suspect people waited for it to be out before binging)

Ahsoka did the opposite of Bad Batch and Book, where it started very strong and went down to just ok.

>>97626184
Ok you STUR WOZ faggot. Just don't ask any star wars fans ro participate in your AU.

>>97626005
Asmodee is in serious debt, Legion probably going in the next couple of years. Hopefully a new company will make a new, better game.

>>97626603
>Book of Boba Fett actually did rather well
Coasting on Mando successes, plus boba Fett was one of the most popular minor OT chars. Completely wasted the chance to do something cool, burned the cahracter.

>Obi Wan was slightly worse.
Shift into writing-room freefall and dumbass messaging instead of good storytelling. Wasting the characters of Obi-Wan and Anakin in this way was horrendous.

>Acolyte
I have no clue how high they were when they greenlit this. Three good scenes in the whole show, episodes barely longer than a tiktok video, utterly disjointed writing, scene-to-scene changes to wqhat motivates characters, plot varies from absent to retarded, etc. etc.

>release schedule
Yeah, they kneecap themselves on that front for some stupid reason.

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>>97626304
Second-best, if we're going by number of seasons, and only counting the shows produced since the advent of Disney+. Or is it third now? Can we lump all the Tales Of miniseries into one thing?

>>97615500
I don't understand corpspeak, what does the OP pic actually say?

>>97628240

"A subsidiary corporate organisation decided to make release almost exclusively on a few thing, and we changed some people around in upper management."
"We're going to make more popular stuff, or stuff we think is popular."
"Legion and crisis protocol are getting more stuff. Best of luck everything else. Shatterpoint might get a bit every now and again."
"Seriously, all the money and jobs are going toward legion and marvelslop, we're also going to go the 40k route/mtg route and start releasing a lot of garbage."
"Expect more socjus stuff as we try to reach beyond the people who are currently buying our product to people we think will do it, but definitely won't."
"We want more money, but we haven't figured out that crowdfunding isn't really a great idea as a sole method of funding. So we're going to shuffle stuff and hope for the best."

Seriously, 'challenging for the community' isn't a good sign.

>>97626855
technically speaking, each tales is a "season", so yes

wonder what ut's gonna be about this year

>>97619408
A cancer. An insidious branch of humanity that spreads through the destruction of ideals and creativity. It thrives and lingers through passivity because it doesn't engage with criticism, it angles instead to starve its opponents by absorbing good will and understanding into its culture of hate and deceit.

>>97615500
I feel like mercenaries never get any love in Star Wars. You've got bounty hunters, criminals, bodyguards, Mandalorians, but basically no PMCs

>>97628534
Bounty hunters are basically mercenaries. The new Mandalorian movie is about him being a mercenary for the Republic, SWTOR was about the BH being a mercenary for the Empire.
I don't remember armies of mercenaries, though. KOTOR has some on Manaan, but they don't get any focus.

>>97628534
We do need straight up mercenary companies that deploy as troops for hire. Played something like that in the old D20 SW once

>>97625115
>Go to a world to find Jedi
>Kill people in order to find said Jedi
>Kill said Jedi
>Still respect Jedi's woke pronouns (?)
It was dumb

>>97628573
Also, woke gender language involving an infant in Ep3. Series was a mess for more than just the woke shite but it didn't help matters

>>97628573
>>97628630
who the fuck notices this shit

>>97628661
Anyone that isn't a brainwashed leftist.

>>97628661
If no one noticed, they wouldn't do it.

>>97628661
NTA, but I am an ESL, and I don't know all the intricacies of American xe/xhe/them mental illness pronouns game. When I watched those episodes they said something like "They are hiding in the mountains", I thought they were saying that there are multiple Jedi hiding. Then they get there and it's just one dude, lmao. "They are alive, they need help!" It was so confusing and cringe. But then again, they also removed Barriss' tits and ass in these shorts. They do this with all the female characters now. They make them ugly and androgynous because the very depiction of female physical characteristics is sexist, apparently.

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>>97628702
I mean, I call people they in real life. 'My friend? They are over there'. I did that before all this trans shit, its normal here. The only time I've ever been called out on it, was some weirdo with trans friends saying I was calling someone the wrong thing.

>>97628746
For me "they" is fine when the person(s) that the speaker is refering to is unknown to them:
>They killed my dog!
But it's jarring when used for a known person:
>Luke is a jedi, like their father before them.

>>97628805
I've noticed it become more and more normalized. I've been referred to by friends of mine as "they". Like, are there doubts about my gender identity? Am I being fruity?

>>97628889
People just say 'they' and always have, it predates the trans thing and had nothing to do with trying to be gender friendly or whatever

>>97628554
SWTOR has some storylines that involve mercenary forces, most notably the Makeb one, where Hutts have hired mercenary armies to invade the planet in order to mine a valuable isotope only found there.

>>97628889
>Like, are there doubts about my gender identity? Am I being fruity?
Stop caring about how people see you, that's gay.

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>>97628397
Okay Sephiroth

>>97629053
Am I wrong?

>>97628573
>>97628630
Noted, will not watch. Ty anon.

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I think this scene gets too much hate. It is the least pressing of the movie's lore-damaging issues, and most criticisms flunk when you point out how kamikaze was just as impractical or how there were never coherent hyperspace rules to begin with.

This thread has nothing to do with traditional games. Fuck you all, fake ass hoe ass not-nerds.

>>97629434
I personally try to enourage people to post minis and play tabletop games. But alas, the /tv/faggotry is too powerful.

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>>97620574
Yes, there is a gorillion STLs for x-wing minis as well as an active 3d printing scene.

Picrel is my paintjob of a Scum N1 with a fanmade dial+cardboard that I got from a local tournament win.

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>>97629434
Several times over the past couple of years I've tried to get conversations about Shatterpoint going, and posted pictures of my games. Most of the time I'm just ignored. Whilst I sometimes see good chats going (and about Legion as well), it's clear that most people here are just interested in the lore and sporadically play RPGs - or just share campaign/character ideas. I have come to believe that Star Wars can no longer have long-term success in miniatures games.

My reasoning is that, firstly, Star Wars is not as prominent in the cultural zeitgeist due to Disney's handling of the franchise. Secondly, regarding miniature games specifically, Star Wars has had a torrid past and proven not to have staying power. West End, WotC, X-Wing and Armada (the latter two being very popular) have all been discontinued. Meanwhile, you have games like Warhammer, BattleTech and Infinity running for decades. I think the longevity and reach of a miniatures game has much more influence over its success than many other entertainment medias, such as pen-and-paper RPGs or video games. My evidence to this is solely based on conversations with friends, most of whom have decided to pick up games that already have a community, and have been warded off games where our local club does not have any players. Especially now, why would you buy into a licence whose games have barely lasted a decade? When miniatures take time and effort to get into, it's logical that would be a barrier.

I also think that paying for the licence makes margins even more razor-thin and might impede creative expression or changing certain rules (also see the Palpatine scandal in Legion). But this is a smaller problem compared to player enthusiasm in the franchise and confidence in the product.

>>97629706
>(also see the Palpatine scandal in Legion).
Said "scandal" being them ceasing production of a unit no one bought?

>>97629838
More removing the rules for him and the Royal Guard. Even 40k still occasionally updates rules with sunset models, or allows them to be used instead of their new version.

>>97629287
Yes.

>>97629384
The implication that it is possible creates a question as to why haven't had hyperspace missiles manned by droid brains for centuries. Even the "1 in a million" handwave in the following movie doesn't negate the sheer value a hyperspace torpedo offers. It isn't bad because it retcons anything, it's bad because it creates a hole in the setting itself.

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>listen to Rise of Darth Vader Audiobook to finish off Dark Lord Trilogy
>Three Random Jedi battle it out on a random world surrounded by clones
>on the day of Order 66
>one of them gets into a brief Spit-spat with a Commando Captain before heading to a largely abandoned hospital
>while dueling with some mercs, the Jedi's Commander gets THE Order from the Captain
>the Commander is strangely confused, thinking this to be a Separatist plot and tells the jedi about it
>they flee, spend hours in hiding, witnessing both the Obi-wans distress message and the deactivating of the droids...
>before eventually getting caught by thousands of clones, thinking they will be imprisoned
What a start.

>>97628534
Mercenaries are usually portrayed as solitary and analogous to bounty hunters, sadly. The Empire of all things had a handful, Sabaoth Squadron during the clone wars, the Mistral Shadow Guard, uh, the Thyrsus Sun Guard? But that's it. Merc operations tend to be criminal swarms operated by local hutts or (((toydarian))) groups with no loyalty, or pre-Naboo, trade federation style groups as corporate subsidiaries that hired out. Even Mandalorians only came in small bunches.

Purely to spitball, I'd peg mercenaries as a mostly outer rim thing. Where the Republic is a punchline and more hindrance than help. Your planet is being raided monthly, but you can't actually buy ships because you were designated as a pirate hub two hundred years ago and the republic will send an investigatory commission in six to eight decades? Okay, mercenaries on retainer, a loose group of maybe 350 people with a single low end cruiser, some cloakshapes and midrange blaster rifles. Big Dave's Sith Lords, local mercenary organisation. They'd rise and fall in a constant churn, with named groups being rare and respected as they've lasted that long. Groups that support their world are stupidly expensive for one person, let alone a group of them hired, so that is why they don't get hired by crime lords or individuals.

At the risk of JUST LIKE MUH MARVEL, it'd be similar to the way mercenary groups are portrayed in ASOIAF'S Essos. A dangerous business where nobody actually wants to resolve anything, everyone knows each other and the difference between bandit and mercenary depends on the day. We could do worse than raiding Battletech for ideas, too.

Professional groups, beyond those named groups, would be so rare. Probably stick to a single sector and have long term procurement contracts and land holds. They're there for money, not glory, not held together by a single personality or opportunity like smaller groups, not bount to a single culture like planetary groups.

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It'd make more sense if TPM was set 42 BBY instead of 32 BBY. That would make Anakin and Obi Wan 55 and 67 when they died, which fits pic related a lot more than them being 45 and 57.

>>97630619
Sounds dumb tbhon

>>97631029
It would also make Luke more understandable as a character, if Anakin was in his late 30's when he fathered him then Luke's autism makes much more sense

>>97631156
You could have Luke be 25 (like in the original ANH script) if ROTS was set in 25 BBY. This would also align more with Han not believing in the Jedi if he was 4 when they disappeared, rather than being 10.

>>97631373
Does Han Solo actually ever express disbelief in the Force? I've always taken his skepticism as him thinking that the jedi just aren't all they're cracked up to be, and the Force is a bunch of parlor tricks.
Just like Motti - he never denies that Vader is a sorcerer, he just smugly points out to everyone that while he may be a sorcerer, the power of the Force has failed to conjure the stolen datatapes, or divine the location of the Rebel base, so maybe Vader should sit down and shut up, when the grown ups are talking.

Those are completely reasonable beliefs to hold, when the great jedi order was exterminated by a bunch of ordinary guys with guns after they've tried to play politics and lost. Yes, they've had some mild superpowers, they didn't help them.

>>97631463
>Does Han Solo actually ever express disbelief in the Force?
Hokey fuckery, if I recall correctly

>>97631029
>It'd make more sense if TPM was set 42 BBY
62BBY, 30 years Clone Wars, then 32 years rule of the Empire.

Do you think we'll get Old Republic armies to tie in with the KOTOR sequel or am I completely delusionnal?

>>97632178
It's not impossible, but I wouldn't exactly call it likely.

>>97630863
You'd peg mercenaries? Lewd.

>>97631156
good thing you can just ignore the prequels as they came after the OT
>>97630619
people screech at me when I say rise of darth vader is shit but they may only be remembering the vader parts which are less than half of the book

>>97631463
>"You don't believe in the Force, do you?"
said by the kid who learned about the force yesterday.
>Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything"

Does Legion have a future? I can't decide whether I want to try it or not. Got burned on Armada. although I don't regret it, the minis are nice.

>>97632876
Yeah, AMG has just said that they want to focus on it and that the new edition has been a success. I think I recall their studio head mentioning that they have at least a 10 year plan to develop the game last year.

Which faction are you thinking? I can give you tips for getting into the game.

>>97632876
Yeah, it's something they're going to keep supporting for at least a few more years.

>>97632855
its a scene that establishes the difference between their respective characters, Luke's optimism and faith vs Han's cynicism, a conflict that continues through the film until Han comes around and saves Luke letting Luke save the day. Pretty good, basic, stuff.

>>97632855
You've left out where he says that no energy fields controls his destiny. It's possible to believe in superpowers and not believe in the ridiculous jedi religion at the same time.

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Anyone know a free resource for printing out the ship cardboard tokens for armada ships? Not interested in Etsy sellers

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>>97624640
Andor is INSANELY overrated
The story is boring as fuck, the characters are dull, the artstyle is bleak and completely destroys the classic SW look (it fucking ruined Coruscant), it lacks any fun adventures, it adds forced shock content like muh rape which contributes zero to the story beyond "oh the Empire is heckin' evilerino", etc
Being a Half Life fan, I can pretty easily tie Andor cocksuckers to a similar equivalent: HL2 beta cocksuckers, retards who think that just because the game was muh dark and griddy and had child slavery it was better even though it was objectively a shit experience. Andor fans are the exact same, they don't even like the Star Wars OT and PT, they like generic cyberpunk slop with forced callbacks.

Showerthought for the day: If Courtship of Princess Leia was released today it would split the SW community in two:
> muh hekkin witcherinos yaas slay GRRL!
and
> misandrist woke bullshit by low-T beta faggots
With both camps missing the point of the story entirely and no possibility of seeing any nuance or comprehending the underlying themes and tropes.

>>97633623
Anon are you seriously trying to defend Ack-olyte by comparing it to Courtship

>>97633626
I'm not defending Acolyte as I haven't even watched it, so I shan't have an opinion on it until i do watch it. I'm just pointing out the rift and unwillingness to see grey areas instead of black and white that exists in not just the star wars fandom but most of popular media at the moment.
People tend to get hung up on details or one specific concept and miss the broader picture entirely when it comes to new series and movies.

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>>97633719
>unwillingness to see grey areas instead of black and white that exists in not just the star wars fandom but most of popular media at the moment
>"Heckin' anti-woke grifters": Do a 6hr analysis on each modern product, analyzing what sucks about it beyond the obvious hatred towards white men, from themes to plot holes to attacking the original material and disrespecting the original author(s)
>"Stronk woke feminists": Pump out a 5min video where they bitch that it's fantasy about muh heckin' space wizards o algo, if you hate it you're an -ist and -phobe and deserve to get killed
There is no middle ground, it's pure cultural vandalism from a group of mentally ill faggots

the nightsisters couldnt be made today

>>97634286
Why do people keep saying shit like "You couldn't make this today" when you clearly fucking could. I know that everyone with a slight understanding of politics immediately assumes that they are the oppressed ones who there's an evil boogie-man looking to take away everything that you like.

Nobody cares if you want to make a story involving a cult of evil lesbian necromancer's who oppress a tribe of buff barbarians that they take, mate with and then sacrifice on a pagan altar. And if someone complains, tell them to get fucked.

>>97634286
>Says that while the Acolyte exists
I understand the sentiment, but "couldn't" is not it.

>>97634770
>Nobody cares if you want to make a story involving a cult of evil lesbian necromancer's who oppress a tribe of buff barbarians that they take, mate with and then sacrifice on a pagan altar.
you know the EXACT types that'd make daily videos on how it's "woke" or whatever
>And if someone complains, tell them to get fucked.
that's the spirit

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>>97634286
I would like to make more Nighsisters.

>>97632993
Appreciate it.
I like both the republic and the separatists.
The rebels and the empire not as much.
Previous experience with mini gaming is a bit of Armada, Warhammer (FB-TOW, HH).

>>97635204
>republic and separatists
Both of them have a great starter. I would generally suggest starting with the starter set and aiming to buy a second one eventually. They are basically free money, as you get all the dice, components, 4 units, a commander for the price of 2 units. And there is no redundancy beyond the commanders here.

Here is a more faction based buying guide:
>separatists
Super tactical droid commanders
Super tactical command droids
DSD spider droid (ideally 2)
Aqua droids (ideally 2)
Geonosian warriors (just 1 is fine)

Beyond that, buy what looks cool. Aside from Cad Bane, there are no bad units in the separatists.
>republic
Heroes of the republic is a pretty good buy.
Clone trooper marksmen 2x
The Bad batch
Clone commandos 2x
AT-RT 2x

Beyond that, you can season to taste. Other heroes, cody + armor, etc.

>>97635406
Thanks anon, one lgs close by is holding an swl event in a few weeks, 600pts. Maybe I'll even manage to get everything done by then.

How is the game itself? I've read some opinions that it's on a competitive side, kinda like 40k which I came to hate since I came back to it during 9th ed. Soulless tourneyturd of a game.

>Force & Destiny
I'm thinking of focusing on mundane skills instead of force powers, at least at first. Can this be viable thwhile or would it basically be just trolling?

>>97635432
>How is the game itself?
As a former 40k player myself, the game is VERY dynamic. It is constant planning, acting, reacting, rolling with very little downtime. If you have any opinion about stratagems, you basically get to play 1 at the start of each round with command cards. It has fully standarised keywords, so there are very few gotchas once you get into the game.
>competitive side
It kinda depends. Yes, there is a pretty sweaty tournament scene. But there are also more casual modes like Tours of Duty, Special Operations. Ask around your LGS. In my experience, the best place to regularly play more casual games is leagues, people tend to test fun lists in these.

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If they really do plan to keep Legion for another decade, they need to add the First Order.

>>97635709
They'll add them in due time, I just don't care.

>>97634961
>you know the EXACT types that'd make daily videos on how it's "woke" or whatever
You know, i'm reminded of that cowboy film that The Daily Wire made staring Carano, the one that was specifically designed to "Stick it to the Wokey's!" and all of the other networks that didn't realize TDW made it immediately started screaming about how "CARANO HAS JOINED THE WOKE MINDVIRUS! ONCE AGAIN, THE WOKE INFECTS EVERYTHING!!!"

At this point, they don't even know what they're complaining about...

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>>97634286
You are right. No one in the current year would make a tribe of scantily clad sensual pale goth chicks. Star Wars under Disney has become completely bland, sterile and asexual. Enjoy a bunch of diverse lesbian uggos like in Acolyte, or creepy hags like in Ahsoka.

>>97635709
I want Phasma and Sith Troopers, maybe Snoke. Burn the rest.

>>97630863
>We could do worse than raiding Battletech for ideas, too
Pentastar Alignment

>>97633623
I was never that impressed by Courtship in the first place, I remember reading it as a child and being puzzled by why Leia seemed so eager to jump into Isolder's pants just because he was rich and royalty, when I had also read Truce at Bakura right before and she was more than happy with Han.

>>97635787
>or creepy hags like in Ahsoka.
One of them was Claudia Black. I'd still hit it.

>>97637342
She's not in Season 2, btw.

>>97635757
One day I'll meet a wokeshitter who's entire method isn't "willfully misunderstand everything my opponents say and do and box against the fictional shadow I have custom made to lose against me", but I guess it isn't today.

>>97635452
IIRC most force powers are attached to skill checks so it shouldn't be a particularly bad idea.

>>97635452
Just make sure to take ebb/flow level 1 power and intense focus power from something. I believe.. Ascetic? in Consular has one, and Force Sensitive Exile also has it.

Are there any versions of saberforge left anywhere on the internet?

>>97615500
>TQ:
Honestly I run my own LGS, in my area, Shatterpoint always sells out anytime they release an update. While Legion was DOA that we only managed to get rid of the stuff we bought from the first wave of about a year ago when we discounted it down to practically nothing. And even then, we still had to give away some as stocking-stuffer for a Shatterpoint tournament we ran.

It blows my mind that Shatterpoint is the one getting sidelined.

At the same time, i suppose Shatterpoint has the weakness that it's a Living game. You'll never really buy multiple copies of the same expansion. That being said, my area isn't terribly wealthy, so i suppose Shatterpoint being relatively cheaper is much better. for my clientel.

>>97642121
FWIW, around here it's pretty much the opposite. People looked at Shatterpoint, said 'cool large minis', bought a few for display and that was that.

>>97634961
>you know the EXACT types that'd make daily videos on how it's "woke" or whatever
Uhuh, yeah sure, yuperino, absotivelyposolutely. The REAL problem here are the heckin' antiwokes, right my fellow Star Wars appreciators?

The reason nobody would care if you made that version of the Nightsisters today is because that's the cucked out faggoty TCW retcon of the Nightsisters which was already reworked specifically to avoid the ire of the people who wouldn't let you make the REAL Nightsisters - ie sexy Amazonian snu-snu tribes - today.

>>97642121
From what I can tell it depends entirely what a store/area's customer base was previously. If they were actual wargamers, Legion tended to do well if either did and Shitterpoint was an afterthought. If the community were degenerate stinking CCG butterballs, Shitterpoint was beloved while Legion struggled.

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Less /tv/
More minis and games, please

>>97643187
oh pretty

>>97643064
All shatterpoint players here I meet came from previous war games, not CCGs, but cool trying to validate one group of star wars toys while shitting on the other

>>97643064
Look anon, I am a Legionfag myself, but I think your hatred for shatterpoint is overblown. Does it have a shitty business model, questionable rules and a general capeshit vibe? For sure. However, I don't think it's good enough of a reason to shit on it endlessly.

>>97615500
the other day i was looking at homeworld stuff again after playing hardspace shipbreakers and i was thinking that the salvage corvette in homeworld was really cool then something inside me broke and an idea formed

does it fit the design of the YT 1300
for a custom top of the line one to have a close range grip module that when attaching to a larger ship it releases a close range ion blast that paralyses the ship and punches through sheilds
you would have to be almost in melee or ramming distance to use it
which makes it probably require a really good pilot to use it effectively as it's risky as fuck and has a good chance of breaking the ship if not timed and pulled off correctly?

compared with the falcon ship might also have it's thrusters semi constantly stall instead of it's hyperdrive
as it has an experimental high power engine to power it's weird weapon
might have better handling than your average YT 1300 but have worse stalls

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>>97643541
You're definitely on crack, but I think we can work with it.

As far as I know there isn't a way to get higher silhouette weapons on smaller craft. So I turned to the nubian collective's design manual, which attempts to unscrew the engineering rules for building ships. It isn't *great* but it's definitely *okay* and it has this. Make it a project to install it on a YT-1300 and then install a heavy tractor beam which have tractor 6, range medium - nothing is getting out of that. Light ion cannons kind of suck, but they're still close range, damage 5. The T9 Stinger Assault Boarding Tube requires 3 hard points, so you're not going to be good for much else. If you swapped out one of the turrets for the tractor beam you'd have room for an engine ring stabiliser or an ion turbine for handling/speed. 3 for the tube, 2 for the weapons mount, 1 for the tractor beam - or a mod. But if you take a mod, you only have one ion cannon and those are awful.

This ship would scream straight at someone, engage tractor beams and start spamming ion blasts while the boarding tube starts drilling in. It's not going to really grab frigates but it'll ruin someone's day. Great pirate ship, actually.

>>97643364
>>97643412
Not a Legionfag, actually a WEGchad, I just says it as I sees it.