>>97626834
I wonder if there are edible Titans

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>>97626834
>If you (I) see a single woman and all you can think of is how you'd like to make her your wife, do I (you) like the woman or are you just lusting after a novel body?

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Do you want them to show up? Do you want them in general, or do you simply lust after a new chassis to distract you from the yawing emptiness?

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>>97626923
>lance
>same reach as the sword
...

>>97626923
Now that these fuckers are here, GW finally had enough contents to put them together with armigers for a LI box.

>>97627209
LIgma balls

>Cataphracti Terminator kit comes with 6 dudes
>unit comes with 5
Seems like a pretty obvious opportunity to convert a character out of one. Can a Terminator character unlock vehicles? The detachment system is still a bit obtuse to me.

8th for Night Lords.

>>97627225
a centurion unlocks 2 detachments because of Officer of the Line
a consul unlocks 2 detachment because it's a command slot

>>97627225
Anything that goes in a command slot grants access to at least one detachment of your choice - this includes things like command Rhino's.
Depending on the detachment and type of vehicle you want you can take anywhere from one to eight vehicles for one command choice.

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The classic Imperial vessel layout is what most of the Heresy-era ships probably looked like, with exceptions of course.. What would you want your flagship to be?

>>97627295
>>97627239
Looking at the rule book, if I’m reading this right, filling the High Command position gives you access to a Apex Detachment, and filling regular Command positions gives access to auxiliary detachments, seemingly two for each dude. Is there any issue sticking Command units in units in other detachments? Like I bring a Terminator Centurion to get the Shock Assault Detachment to bring Termies, and then he joins his buddies in their unit.

>>97627381
Oberon class is also post-Heresy, being a variant of the Emperor class. Desolator class battleships and Vengeance class grand cruisers were around. Despoiler class as well (in a way) in the form of Terminus Est. Maybe some other ships as well, since many are described as old and obsolete or never given a clear indication they're post-Heresy production?
>What would you want your flagship to be?
/mydydes/ settle for a simple strike cruiser, enough to carry their company with support elements.

>>97626923
I legit love this dude. He's like a big Armiger and I adore Armigers.

>>97627209
LI/AT NEEDS plastic Armigers. Give me them JAMES! ffs

>>97627409
Only centurions (or rather, the officer of the line rule, that centurions have) give you two auxiliary detachments. Regular command give you one detachment.
You can attach characters to units like in previous editions, and there's no restriction between characters having to attach to units from the detachment they unlock. It only matters for force org slots.

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>>97627535
Hopefully they put a barrel cap piece on the Destrier Gatling because holy shit Questoris gatling is absolute fucked without it, and they had these prototype Questoris up on their store with a barrel cap on.

>>97627567
I see, I was adding Centurions in New Recruit to click through options and they were giving me two. I’m sure I’ll figure it out by the time I actually have a force painted, I’m getting more of a understanding of it.

>>97627574
>Questoris gatling is absolute fucked without i
Eh? I've not noticed a problem with my AT Questoris?

>>97627628
Oh wait, you said Gatling. Sorry lol I made mine with thermal cannons

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>>97627636
>>97627628
You get 1 of each gun, unless you build dual melee on your knight and skip the gatling.

>>97627645
>You get 1 of each gun
Anon doesn't buy the bits he wants to achieve the look he desires. Nasty.

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>>97624960
>Aerthegn
Thanks anon I knew they existed but forgot their name.

>>97627739
>what if red corsairs and space vikings weren't fucking lame and gay

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I want to get into Heresy, but I'm undecided on the army. I'm thinking of either Iron Warriors or Loyalist Death Guard, because I really like the look of 30k vehicles and heavy weapons and these two feel like a good fit for that
>Imperial Fists
don't want to paint yellow
>Iron Hands
who?

>>97626923
I mostly like them, but something's off about the heads. They're *too* knightly, like they literally just stuck medieval helmets on some mechs - all the other knight classes have heads that are clearly technological even where they're clearly aiming to evoke knightly helms.

It makes them look uncomfortably like Warjacks. If they fix that issue, they'd be awesome. I'll wait for an STL to get made though, knights don't belong in 40K's model scale so I only use them at Epic/8mm and 15mm sizes.

>>97627205
Oh I thought it was like a pile bunker and shoots straight out.

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3rd and 4th edition epic really cooked with the scenarios and narrative play rules. Too bad they are the least compatible with Space Marine and Legions Imperialis

>>97627205
I'm guessing it's less about the reach and more about acting as a piledriver. There seems to be a rocket engine at the back of the thing, so it's clearly designed for forceful thrusts. Get in close, line it up and ram it in.

>>97627840
l-lewd

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>>97627840
you can just read the article instead of guessing.

>>97627853
Why? It's just repeating what's obvious to anyone looking at the thing.

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>>97626923
I have never been a fan of the no-elbow chainsword. It works for the lance though.

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>>97627381
>What would you want your flagship to be?

My battalion of Death Guard were sent to sow confusion and strike targets of opportunity away from the main line of advance while the push into the Coronid Deeps began. They were expected to operate independently for an extended period of time but weren't particularly well regarded by Mortarion so were assigned a heavy cruiser and a trio of frigates and sent on their way.

>>97627924
>while the push into the Coronid Deeps began.
Another Coronid Deeps lore fan?! Based, anon.

>>97627902
Dude that looks fucking horrible

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>>97627944
I love Book 4, they finally break away from Isstvan and start the war proper. Solar Auxillia, Knight Houses, campaign rules, mentions of titans and Blackshields. Heady days.

>>97627978
Battlefleet Gothic is my favourite game and bit of lore, and the storyline involved the Deeps, Port Maw, the story around Mezoa etc is my favourite bit of the HH lol
The Gothic Sector calls to me

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>>97627902
Reminds me of the knight character from Sleep Walking Orchestra by Bump of Chicken.

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>>97627978
Only the hard and strong may call themselves Astartes.

Only the hard. Only the strong.

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>>97628106
What in the AI slop is this garbage

>>97628305
Why it looks like Valdor punching Abaddon's face.

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>>97626923
>distract you from the yawing emptiness?
Every time I pick up an order and open up the box, the very same thought hits me: "Does this box contain the happiness I seek?"
The answer is always no, of course.

>>97628305
It's not sloppa. It's drawn by Alex Cristi. Look it up friendo.

>>97628325
Slop just means "something I dont like" now anon, keep up

>>97628332
>t. guy who doesn't understand the concept of soul either

>>97628337
That was sarcasm.

>>97628325
It looks bad enough to be AI slop. Especially Valdor's spear just floating in front of Abbadon for no apparent reason is fucking retarded.

>>97628356
Abaddon has literally grabbed the spear in that art and anyone who isn't blind can see that. It's very clear via the sense of motion what is being shown and thus I must declare you a retard, assign a (You) to your post and move on.

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>It's a Knights episode

>>97628372
That's what doesn't make sense retard. Even if a marine could hold a spear in place by merely pinch-gripping the tip which is a matter of plain physics not raw strength why the fuck would Abbadon even do that? Valdor isn't gonna thank him for holding his spear for him He isn't a DA after all
Not to mention that holding an active power blade supposedly burning the gauntlet at best, still cutting through fingers at worst.
It's mega retarded whatever explanation you try to conjure up for it.

>>97628356
It's depicting a scene from TEATD.

>>97628428
>Slop begets slop

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Talk shit, get hit.

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>>97626923
If they don't give them to us I hope they take Cerastus knights off 40k

>>97628628
Sweet army, also the vulturax is much bigger than I thought damn

>>97628106
Holding that power halberd would mess up Abby's hand, poverty art

>>97628549
saurce?

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Wait Ligma Solar Auxilia tank commanders don't just have to be placed in a battle tank? I can put that little nigga in a Hellhammer?

>>97626923
They've already confirmed its not coming to Horus Heresy. And from the looks of it, Cerastus will soon be Horus heresy exclusive. Lame ass GW execs think both games need to have completely different models.

>>97628747
Wouldn't they sell more if models were shared?

>>97628704
TEATD.

>>97628834
Which do you think sells more (to a bean counter), army that can be used in two games or two armies for two games?

>>97628834
but then they can't track which game it was used for and the office beancounters get headaches. Can't have that now! It'd be bad for the shareholders

>>97628857
Meanwhile they keep putting kill teams in combat patrol boxes and they probably wonder why no one plays combat patrol despite the sales

>>97628854
I do believe more people would use knights if they had twice as many games they could use them on

>>97628873
Ah, but Kill Team isn't a real "game" - it's a development space for new units without disrupting the main codex releases. It's all still 40k sales

>>97628834
Reminder that GW does not want your money

>>97628873
Many couldn't play Killteam either with new release being FOMO hoarded by scalpers, and the funniest part is that scalper's price would still be cheaper than single releases by GW. /ktg/ pretty much dead because no one can fucking buy new products.

>>97628834
Ah, but anon, those sales are going towards GW as whole, not to my team! How else will I prove my people aren't in danger of the guillotine if I'm just giving money to the other guys!

The consequences of late stage, line must go up capitalism have been a disaster for the human race. Not as bad as communism though

>>97628549
>Valdor couldn't finish off Abaddon who had gotten his ass whooped by space marines in that failed assault earlier
lmao what a chump

>>97628968
>/ktg/ pretty much dead because no one can fucking buy new products.
OH NO THEY CAN'T GET THE BOX OF [faction] OFFICER, [faction] GUNNER, [faction] MELEE SPECIALIST, [faction] SHIELD GUY, [faction] COMMS GUY, [faction] CANNON FODDER?!?
Seriously, who gives a shit about monopose glorified upgrade sprues.

>>97629108
And yet KT kits have more options and customisation than 40k ones...

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>>97628834
The idea is to make you buy another army to play the other game while they're also using it to track the performance of model sales by game. There's a few oddities from this shit policy though

>Armies that allow for far more conversion liberties like Imperialis Militia, Renegade Crowns, and Venators don't exist in GW's two flagship games (even if meant encouraging buying more GW models)
>Daemon Princes and Belakor are among the select few who directly advertise as being usable in AoS and 40k on their own boxes with swappable features, like desecrating your base with a Primaris lieutenant
>Imperial Knights and Custodes needed a bit of mercy for 40k specifically, because they would have jack shit otherwise; the latter even still officially coasts on basic Contemptors from the 30k range as a codex unit
>40k cult legions just kind of do things arbitrarily, even more so than an Age of Empires tech tree

>>97628747
Cerastus chassis going to 40k Legends would be hilarious since it would likely just cuck Chaos Knights

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>>97629178
wrong thread, my bad

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quick question to run by y'all, can 40k's Inner Circle Companions be reasonably ran as a proxy for a Horusy Era Dark Angel unit? I got these little guys before really getting invested into HH stuff. I could return them I think, but it'd be nice if I could still use them for something.

>>97629187
Definitely not.
Also, here's a (You) award for such obvious bait!
(You)

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>>97629187
No.

>>97629187
You can cannibalize bits if you wanted to hang on to them. Or maybe hang onto them for 40k, since the Dark Angels are still secretly a Legion in 40k you can have your Heresy dudes be the direct predecessors of your 40k dudes.

>>97629187
No.
They're too tall, they have shartmaris helmets/backpacks/bracers/guns, and they're cringe.

>>97629274
>and they're cringe.
That's just part of being DA though.
>t. a DA player

>>97629274
trvth nvke

>>97622532
>>97622559
I'd buy them if they got a new plastic releases. I'm not even joking. I love these weird fucks.

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Is this box good for a newfags? I already have one deimos rhino for the breachers and I suppose I would get a spartan for the termies, once I finish with this box ofc

>>97629350
short answer: no

>>97627381
>What would you want your flagship to be?
There was a nice piece of fluff of Xana having fleets of automata battleships which is what I would probably do if I wanted to play BFHH so a carrier version of that that's big enough to carry 4-6 escorts. What I'm probably going to make first is a cruiser for my IH, one for my cybernetica legio and the Red Talon to run in epic armageddon.

>>97629187
I have a better question
Could the Nephilim Jetfighter / Corvus Blackstar be reasonably converted into a Xiphon Interceptor proxy?

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>>97629397
>Xiphon Interceptor proxy
Anon, it's like 20 pieces. Just recast the bloody thing and move on.

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>>97629358
why? are breachers bad? I know that the termies are scubtastic, but old kit is sold out at my place

>>97629397
Depends on your definition of reasonably but I would just get the xyphon. It looks much better.

>>97629350
If it's the only box you're getting, not really. Both breachers and the terminators kind of need a transport to really shine. The leviathan is nowhere near as bad as internet hyperbole makes them out to be, so if you like the models it's a decent value box.

>>97629443
Just wait for the plastic release so you too can enjoy 300 premium plastic components instead of 20 gigacancerous chink resin parts!

>>97629445
NTA but breachers are great. They're the only line unit marines have that can reliably blow up AV 14 tanks. Power maul cataphractii are a solid deterrent for keeping scoring units away from an objective after charging out their land raider.

>>97629445
>>97629485
DESU breachers are meh
Vet breachers though? Wew lads they are good.

>>97629474
GW really needs to release plastic kits for the fire raptor and storm eagle already. Don't care about the parts count, I am not dealing with those long thin warped resin sheets.

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>>97629495
Nah dude breachers are an absolute terror for vehicles. Even if most of the unit is killed, as long as you have one or two breachers with lascutters left no vehicle is safe.

>>97629504
Yeah....but vet breachers get 4 las cutters

>>97629187
Not without a lot of conversion work to pass it off as artificer armor

>>97629311
If these were the first ever "chaos titan" kits we get and we don't get the post-Beta Garmon Banelord in plastic I WILL RIOT

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>>97629311
Sabertooth had one of the two titans as one of the cards so it's not like they forgot about them.

>>97629521
Which is massive overkill against most vehicles. Don't get me wrong, veteran breachers are great too, but unless you have to kill a super-heavy vehicle or spartan regularly they're a bit heavy on the point cost.

>>97629455
that's fine, I was thinking about starting Heresy with that box and then expand with combat force box (or whatever combo box that comes out in the future), once I finish assembling and painting

>>97629561
Granted i also use mine specifically to deal with things like Land raiders because ill either put them in a drill, or sling shot them in a rhino, also they are mean in melee becuase they are 2 wounds a peice and you just let the non las cutter guys soak up the hits while the las cutters just slice everything apart.

>>97629455
Not that anon, but I had the “fantasy” of breachers hopping out of a Rhino when conceptualizing my list, so you’re saying that’s the more optimal way of playing them.

>>97629187
Parts of them? Sure. But the general armor design is very clearly primaris in aesthetics which doesent really fit anything else in the game. The robes are also something that isnt really a thing in HH.

>>97629588
Yes, it is. Mechanised infantry in general is very good this edition.

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>>97629187
Rope

>>97629556
Anon that was like 20 years ago lmfao

>>97627739
>>97627745
I fucking love these dudes. This is my painting goal for my knights.

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>>97629615
>Sabertooth closed down in 2008
>2008 was 18 years ago
Holy fuck. Had to pull out the motherfucking calculator app on my laptop to make sure I wasn't messing up the subtraction.

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Still seeking;
Anons, do you have a link to the Horus Heresy Black Books that I could download? I was thinking of reading the Horus Heresy series of Black Library books, but I've been told the Black Books are like, the real canon of the Heresy. Any help would be appreciated. ( I figured it made more sense asking here than in the Share Thread )

>>97629742
>>97558136
is it still up? test

>>97629570
Lascutters may be just a single attack, but I think they are more reliable than meltaguns, and also have more utility than them, being both melee and range, as well as being cheaper. Imagine a measly rhino disembarks a squad that can kill a land raider!
Idk if I should replace the rest of the unit's bolters with a couple power weapons or something

>>97629813
So again im speaking only for vet breachers but i just run them with 5 bolters, 4 las cutters and a fist on the SGT. They do work.

>>97629832
I could believe that unit being viable. If they are antitank, I assume their Rhino's gun is anti infantry. Havoc launcher?

>bought garrius because it's a great model to make agnostic
>realized I don't have any spare cataphractii arms for the conversion I wanted to do
Oops.
>got some spare indomitus bits and a body to two
>indomitus marines have fuck all customization
Poop.

Traitor RG: Bird emblem or just XIX for their livery?

>>97629870
nah lol.
I run a siege breaker in that unit as well. and what i do is just sling shot them to the closest LR or something i want dead, and if something like say a terminator unit walks outta it, i still run into them with it, because they are still WS5, 2w vets with a 5++ so they wont die that quickly and the las cutter and a siege breaker with a hammer will do some work. they wont kill Elite legion specific TEQs but they will tie them up and wreck their transport.

But for the rhino, yes i always take havoc launchers.

>>97629783
Links are dead

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>>97629187
>>97629217
>>97629199

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>>97629742

I'm the anon who tried to shake you out of your peer pressure opinion that the black books are "the real canon" by suggesting you read the 1989 Space Marine version of the Horus Heresy. Pic Related.

I feel bad about bullying you instead of being helpful so here is a link to book 1

https://litter.catbox.moe/xspbomd1k80xetq3.pdf

>>97628834
Yes. But the studios don't get credit for the sales of kits branded for games from other studios, so they don't care about that, and the counters of beans who want to assess the performance of model kit ranges in minute detail really, really want model kit ranges to be as separate as possible.

Yes this is counterproductive, yes it encourages wasting manufacturing and warehousing producing duplicated products, yes it will cause market cannibalization within their own company, yes it devalues their products by making them less usable, and yes it relies on faulty and demonstrably untrue logic about consumer spending. It's super obvious but for whatever reason GW is currently treating keeping main and specialist studio games separate as being more important than selling that product.

>>97630418

the suggestion to read the OG epic version of the heresy was sarcastic btw, I forgot to say that. Although it is an amusing read knowing the more modern fluff.

>>97630432
i am not surprised in the slightest; late stage capitalism is such a display of glorified mediocrity

>>97630432
>>97630577
This isnt an issue with capitalism. This is an issue of "the main games team or specialist games team are not "the company" and not interested with the well being of "the company""

The separation of product lines wont be something mandated on down by the big boss bean counter interested in maximizing company profit, it will be the move of a department head interested in showing that their team is doing better and he needs a promotion, or that they should get more resources and funding, or that they shouldnt be fired, or whatever else.

>>97630418
The honour of his legion ;__;

>>97628248

I'd slap that and ride the ripples.

>>97629640
Based.

>>97630418
It's funny how they were called chapters back then

>>97630418
moar OG heresy pls

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>>97629187
I like them a lot. Helmets are great. The banner is great source of a herald parts. the two handed swords are awesome sort of parts for Terran Great blades.

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Wrapping up some tactical vets for the word bearers, ran out of primer for the last four so they'll get done in the next batch with their ride

>>97630418
This is dope, source?

>>97630965

sure fren. Have a Rogal draw like a 2000AD prog and some neat fluff about the end of the siege.

there's also another bit that gives "For Horus and Humanity" as a traitor warcry which goes kind of hard

>>97631206

From the 1989 1st edition Space Marine rulebook (the one with the scarface marine on the front cover). It's not the first use of HH as a setting but it is the first to focus on space marines and primarchs rather than titans.

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>>97631379

forgot pic :(

>>97631384
Yonnad ;__;

Are Assault Marines and Breachers fine to bring as line units or should I try to stick them in their own detachments? I want to bring a unit of both cause I just think they’re neat.

>>97631453
Breachers sure, they have line 1 but are an acceptable addition to some despoilers or tacticals.

Assault marines have the slight issue of not having line, but vanguard instead.

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>>97627978
Book 4 was great. The fluff was awesome, it was almost like a disaster movie in some respects with the way the traitors sweep everything aside more or less. Perfect mood setter for the true start of the 'age of darkness' and the apocalyptic feel of the heresy.

>>97631458
Pretty sure he's talking about LI anon

>>97631505
Don't be silly, no one plays LIgma

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>>97631094
>>97629187
There's enough rope for everyone

>>97631379
>1989 1st edition Space Marine rulebook
wicked, found it

>>97630631
stop arguing with somebody else's jerkoff fantasy you idiot

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>>97629217
>>97629274
>>97629531
>>97629599
>>97629599
Insightful. I probably won't bother then.
I honestly didnt even know these guys were a primaris thing (what's the deal with those anyway?), i got them because they look cool on the box and i like dark angels

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>>97631501
>>97627978
The Gothic Sector and, for lack of a better term, both the Gothic Wars we've seen in the lore (the Manachean War and Gothic War) are some of the best written 40k shit out there.

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4 more members of my custard kill team, got 1 more to build.

>put a shield on my Assault Marine Sergeant cause I thought it’d be neat
>apparently the rules say everyone or no one gets a shield
I guess it’s just decorative lmao. Good thing I had a extra pistol in holster so I could still model his gun.

>>97631800
I know it's not supposed to but the thinner resin one makes it look feminine

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>>97631566

I like the fusion of 80s RT aesthetic and the heresy setting. Its a shame that by 2nd edition epic had if not abandoned the heresy had encompassed 40k as well and turned its focus to that. Luckily we're so fucking back Epic Battles in the Age of Heresy bros

Although 2nd edition era Epic Renegades does give us far as I know the first mention of the daemon primarchs. It's all much of what you'd expect from Index Astartes until the present day. Fulgrim mentally manipulated by a slaanesh demon against his will, Magnus tolchoked by space wolves over psykana, Death Guard get stuck in the warp and go nurgle to escape the warp diseases which is interestingly consistent for an era when Chaos Squats were the ones creating techno-abominations instead of the dark mechanicum.

The only outlier is Angron. No nails. He is instead of honourable if viciously brutal warrior and master tactician who joined horus under the premise of a "we the warriors must restore honour and vitality by the strength of our arms" military coup type deal and fell to khorne due to martial pride.

>>97631849

meant for>>97631561

>>97631811
I was thinking of getting either some dyke-ish escher head or the veiled head off lady Malays to troll with but I didn't want to make another order

>>97631670
I’d read up more on Heresy Dark Angels if you wanted to know a good direction for your dudes. Everything that defines them in 40k doesn’t happen until post Heresy, so using their 40k bits is a lot more anachronistic than normal.

>>97631384
>Digital laser
F

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>>97631919
"Digital laser" is just a fancy way of saying "finger blaster".

>>97630577
This is nothing to do with capitalism. Profit motive and a hierarchical organizational structure mean that this behavior is harmful to the bottom line and to investors, but is also easily corrected via top down mandate. GW Frequently mention in investor reports that they struggle with logistics, but they blast themselves in the foot by doing things like making 2 different versions of night goblin spearmen, one of which is just worse than the other, which requires different packaging, takes up its own warehouse space and takes valuable time on machines to make. That's not behavior that is concerned with profit, that's maladaptive behavior based on faulty implementation of performance tracking, it's just incompetent.

What is supposed to happen is the the capitalist, or the proxy of the investors (CEO) is supposed to notice problems like this and get them fixed. What's insane is that these problems are so bad that they are apparent to GWs customers, are easy to fix, but seem to be getting worse.

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>>97631673
BFG flavor text is still some of the most soulful fluff I've come across. Every once in a while I reread all of the ships just because it's so provocative.

>>97631670
They're a clusterfuck of bad lore choices, being Traitor Dark Angels (from the Heresy) who didn't go full Chaos so Lion (who just woke up), forgave them and installed them in the current Dark Angels and Primarisisified them.

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>>97627956
It's how the Cerastus does it, and it's the superior choice.

>>97632659
It's kinda weird there's no morning star knight weapon. The lancer is kinda like it I suppose but also not quite

>>97630000
No one acknowledged my question or my quads ;_;

>>97632777
A skeleton bird emblem

>>97632777
cursed
double ignored

>>97631804
Combat shields should still allow the use of pistols like they used to

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Which?

>>97632801
Yes.

I’ve had a flash of inspiration, and would like a second opinion. How do you guys feel about Ultramarines with Averland Sunset trim? The idea in theory, is that post Calth mobilization of new Marines would leave less time to make sure their armor was ornamented correctly, so instead of proper gold trim they’re sent into battle with a warm yellow paint in line with 2nd edition trim.

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>>97632801
The Chode.

>>97632814
Only if they have red bolters

>>97632856
Of course

>>97632801
None, they all look ass.

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>>97632801
personally:
plasma, autocannon, rotor, volkite, flamer, flamer=underslung
bazoo- missile=shoulder
melta=rifle grip, maybe underslung for bunker/blast door busting
las=rifle grip for practical, shoulder for "too heavy" in a good way, underslung for leg/infantry sweep (could fit WE)

I also made this pic for shits n giggles years ago

>>97633026
Terminators don't use suspensor webs, and never have. The armour's exoskeleton and servo motors provide the stability and power needed to carry and operate heavy weaponry.

>>97630631
>>97630631
>True capitalism has never been tried!

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>>97632664
>morning star knight weapon

Because somebody else made them look gay.

>>97632659
Hope GW releases a plastic atrapos kit soon. The plastic cerastus knight is such a joy to build it's hard to go back to having to deal with resin.

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>>97633026
>half of HSS with shoulder fired weapons
>other half with hip fired
>arranged in two ranks

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>>97633213
if I ever decide to make a 10 man HSS I'm gonna do exactly what you wrote. hell, I might go elysian-with-bipod-melta crazy for an extra layer of dakka.

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>Word Bearers, the very first Traitor Legion and the first ones to embrace Chaos, get their own Saturnines souped up on Daemon juice
>just painted with a glow effect and some runes for good measure
Bit lame stood next to the Gal Vorbak and Mhara Gal.

>>97632659
Well besides not having a hand

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>>97633319
Speaking of Word bearers, I saw this just now and had a good chuckle.

>>97633319
I like the buster arm.

>>97633319
I imagine they didn’t have time to do a conversion before those had to be submitted for the article

>>97633319
Missed opportunity to have warpfire bombards, as well.

>>97632814
Reminder that originally trim denoted which company a squad belonged to, so there should be ultramarines with purple trim kicking around.

>>97633383
The Ultramarines second company is legion sized.

>>97633383
The trim denoting company seems to have been introduced with the Codex Astartes. Unless there’s some reference I’m missing, the Ultramarine Legion colors are primarily blue and gold with white for Sergeants and leadership. The Rogue Trader colors seem to have been canonized for the Heresy too, but that’s largely just adding stripes to beakies. My idea was to do warm yellow for the fake gold/retro call back to denote quick mobilization where proper ornamentation could not be followed, but also give them red weapons like some images show elite Ultramarines having (also a retro callback) in the same way they gave medals to soldiers before sending them to the meat grinder in WW2.

>>97633319
did they ever explain how a marine fit into these things? do they wear stilts?

>>97632801
Did you ever notice how the plasma cannon looks like a big fat throbbing cock?

>>97633482
They are moving the suit with the powers of their mind, every pilot needs to be a minor psionic.

>>97631800
A custode KT would just be one guy.

>>97631379
>>97631384
Thank you frend, have a nice weekend.

>>97633487
Ok still doesn't explain how a marine fits into the suit.

>>97633488
>single customisable mini, old marine captain style
>create your own mary sue and rape enemy gang
fund it

>>97633488
There's no "I" in "team".

>>97633482
Their limbs are in the warp.

>>97633488
These guys job to jeanstealers so not really

>>97633495
>create your own mary sue and rape enemy gang

Given the plot developments of Necromunda, there's maybe some chance of Imperial Fists getting their hands dirty there so we're probably not far off.

>>97633497
But there is an "I" in "win"

>>97633486
>Dark Angels is the Legion who holds the most plasma weaponry, fielding special variants of them as well
Ah.

>>97633319
Theyre a conversion only unit. So just make them look however you want.

>>97633319
Plenty of the WBfags of /hhg/ converted them with daemonic bits

Bought a reaver.
What Legio should I paint it as?
Loyalist preferred.

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Assist me. anons!
I can't decide how to paint my LI and AT god engines. I'm currently debating whether I want to play Legio Tempestus and House Ærthegn because as I said here >>97631673 the Gothic Sector and all its accompanying lore is my favourite part of 40k and I'd love to have the forces that took part in the Manachean War.
(I also want to get some of the Dark Mech Stalkers so if I did those I could paint them up like they're from Cyclothrathe!)
But, Vengeful Spirit and Titandeath (despite both being very flawed) might be my favourite HH books. I fucking LOVE Legio Vulpa and House Devine and think their colours look fucking suck and would they'd probably look great on the table.
Help me choose, anons.

>>97633931
I vote Vulpa and Devine, lore wise they're equally as cool as the former pair but have cooler colours

>>97633931
Vulpa and Devine. They're cooler.

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>>97633910
Legio Defensor always catch my eye on the loyalist front.
Kinda lame fluff tho

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>>97631505

I was going to paint the warhounds I got in the LI starter set as Audax but that's just because I'm a certified warhound appreciator over bigger titans

Pic not very related but Metalica is a good paint scheme aesthetically

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>>97633910
Osedax!

>>97633931
If you're interested in playing them Legio Vulpa has much more fun rules than Tempestus

>>97633497
but there is a me

>>97633332
>I need 5 inductii with attitude

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>>97633488
yeah, that guy

>>97633487
So how do the World Eaters use them? Since the Nails kill psykers and they all died after Nuceria.

>>97633487
>>97634773
You don't need actual psychic powers. It's more an innate affinity with machines in the same way printers cause errors with people, but behave when you come around. Too minor to be detected, closer than intuition and goodwill than actual warp phenomena.
https://youtu.be/CPNEEhDVGSo?si=h6FVge3iJjOXzece?t=111

>>97634773
Saturnine armour suits are piloted using the black carapace interface, in addition to a neural interface link similar to those used in dreadnoughts and titans.
The lore also mentions a rumour that cybertheurgic resonance is also required, but we never got exact details. Considering everybody that isn't a psychic blank has some level of connection to the Warp, it could just be that having a little above average psychic potential is beneficial - which would still be many levels below the psychic talent needed to become a librarian.

>>97634840
>Have always had a fascination with machines and mechanics
>Have had many experiences of some person asking me to fix something, not being able to find any problem, then receiving a very well meant thanks afterwards because the device has kept working without issues
...am I a latent cybertheurgic psyker?

>>97634773

It's more like a titan or Dreadnaught mind interface. The Saturnine book mentions it agrevates the nails so they selected inductii the least affected by the nails to pilot Saturnine suits.

>>97634583
what is the blue helmet design?

>>97633497
Custodes are male lions not wolves ADB said so, they fight alone JUST fine.

>>97633827
DA are noble arthurian space knights not faggots tho the rock gay bar reference is not funny anymore.
Now that's out of the way, let's get back to the plasma cock topic.

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las cutter used to be a "rape on 4+". why did HH1 and 2 (and 3?) nerf it to the ground?

>>97634931
The knight lancer pilot

>>97634869
I do believe that's unironically how Techmarine candidates are selected for their pilgrimage to Mars

>>97634363
WAACfaggotry

>>97633931
Devine is the coolest House in all of 40k. Play them.

>>97635227
>WAACfaggotry
>In Titanicus
Vulpa rules are abouy getting your titans into melee faster.
Tempestus is about shooting your guns when you die and and making them stronger if you are damaged. Which sounds like WAAC, exactly?

>>97634869
Placebo's one hell of a drug.

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Started work on some legs, thing i might go with black and white, based on Fang Joker.

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>>97635375
Based

>>97635333
Withdrawn.

>>97635227
>They're more fun!
>That's WAACfaggotry!
???

>>97635333
>>97634363
>>97634093
>>97633980
It hath been decided! I shall play Legio Vulpa and House Devine :)
Thanks anons!

>>97635351
alcoholic kind of mood

Did we ever get a scan of Journal Tactica Skitarii? I must be retarded as I cant seem to find it on the archive.

>>97635400

That Warhound is 'armless

What's the best way to magnetize the plastic rapier?

>>97635700
That's why it's running away.

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Why did the Salamanders and Death Guard lose so many named characters after 1st edition?

Kill Lupercal is pretty decent.
Not good enough to pay for though

>>97635741
pretty much yeah

>>97635741
yes, yes, however...
the animators forgot to remove the 40k aquilas from the models they used for the traitor shadowswords, they're only visible for like a second though

>>97635741
It's not that it's not good enough to pay for it's that warhammer+ is not good enough and does not have enough good material to rent in order to watch it

>>97635741
If you can "acquire" Kill Lupercal and Sigmar's Toll they are worth watching, aye.

>>97635797
Hate how the locked some cool models behind that shit

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>>97635842
Everything is always available from somewhere else

>>97635848
>>97635797
Worst part is, these aren't a free bonus, tlyou still have have to pay for them, which is wild people tolerate that

>>97635874
I thought you got one "free" but have to buy more?

>>97635935
Yeah my bad, am dumb

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Big guy with big gun: sick-ass spear or cool-ass lightning claw?

>>97635033
do yourself a favor and look up the original rules for thunder hammers, then ask yourself why they got nerfed

Can Breachers ride in Rhinos?
I have 4 Rhinos but don't want to run 4 tac squads.

>>97636035
Yes. Honestly one of the best changes in 3.0 because breachers being stuck with land raiders only as dedicated transport option was just retarded. No one in their right mind is taking a 250+ points transport for a sub-200 points troops choice.

>>97636059
Alright, cool. I'll see if my LGS has any of the upgrade kits and make some of the MK2 guys from Saturnine into Breachers instead.

>>97635072
oh wow

>>97635724
No models no rules GW retardation

Can the HH 2.0 box Marines be given weapons from the separate weapon sprues? I got a box of heavy weapons dirt cheap and I'm looking cheap marines to put them on.

>>97636219
Yes, that was the entire point of the plastic launch with 2.0

>>97636272
Fucking sick, thanks anon

>rape opponent t1
>he counter-rapes me t2
>battle ends in a 15-15 tie

>>97636788
Those are some of the best, most exciting battles.

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It would be KINO if we got Lucius-pattern Titans. They're design is infinitely more badass than the Mars-pattern.
They could even have something as simple as worse weapons but better defence or some shit, just to give 'em an excuse to be release.

>>97636824
There's already STL's out there for lucius patterns of most titans. And with how good filament printing is becoming you don't even need to deal with a resin printer any more.
Just having them as alternative models using the same unit profiles makes the most sense I think, they're using the same weapons after all.

TOP KNOTS ARE LAME

>>97636974
>Knots
:3

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>>97633482

>>97636824
Lucious, huh. I thought it was "lucian."
Anyway, yeah those things slap

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>>97634112

also this is really a daydream idea unless I get a 3D printer or become much richer but I'd love to get a old epic scale Imperator titan paint it up as Legio Oberon defaced with Audax markings and banners. Depicting the Corinthian (which never comes up again after Betrayer) for narrative games of LI

>>97635705
>That's why it's running away.

that makes sense. AT has classic epic style hit location damage and limb specific damage tables?

>>97636817
It was insane
>my rhino ran over his 5 praetorians + champ who were bullying 2 fleeing inductii for 6 hits
>he put them all on the champ, who whiffed
>throw my champ, jorlund hunters, MoD with hammer at them, they slaughter the hunters so I lose combat and everyone breaks
>knight (who has been pinned since the first turn thanks to a graviton cannon) lights up my fleeing champion
>3 praetorians decide to bully MoD
>he inv saves all their bullshit claw attacks, then hits all 3 of his attacks to splatter them

>>97637025
Current AT is Legs, Body, Head, Weapon, and Special (which is body on anything other than a warmaster). It's a special dice that comes in the starter set

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Just gotta figure out how to plug the weapon into the armor and what to put on the belt.

>>97637074
Would have positioned the volkite culverin a bit higher. Now it looks like he's using it as a walking cane.

>>97637080
He's a bit lopsided eithout the base, it's just above ground level. The leather danglers kept me from posing the arms differently, that's the only chainfist arm I had.

>>97637074

use stranded bare copper wire of plausible size glued rigid with greenstuff or something else as bands.

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Am I hallucinating or weren't there a few 3-player (loyalist vs traitor vs blackshield) missions?
They aren't in Retribution or Battle for Beta-Garmon

>>97637147
I mean I have to make a socket to plug the wires into, or a power pack for the gun itself.

>>97637227

Just make it yourself I belief in u :) .

If Jervis Johnson can make a 5 player (3 imperial, 2 ork all with the same points) game fair and balanced you can make a 3 way work.

>>97635703
magnets

Is it bad that I still have trouble figuring out what Horus was so mad about?

>>97637677
his legacy, terras bureaucracy catching up, big e fucking off to finish the webway and dumping the weight of warmaster onto him
pick and choose what you like really

>>97637739
>dad gave me too much responsibility
>im going insaneee!!!

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>>97637677
Half the fun is coming up with a reason for Horus' betrayal that makes sense to you.
I particularly like the Legions Rights angle of marines being effectively servants unto death rather than champions, as even mere mortals can get acres of conquered land as their retirement yet it is marines who bled for those worlds and they got no say in imperial governance, which is all the more tragically ironic as one of the concessions for space marine chapters in 40k is precisely that, as they are all effectively planetary governors of their chapter planets, complete with the usual Imperial Tithe pardoned and swapped for 5% geneseed shipment.

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>>97637677
It's basically:
>I'm feeling super fucking pressured at suddenly being in charge of the entire Great Crusade with no way to DM pops for advice
combined with
>I got shanked by some sharp magic rock and now I'm hearing voices?!

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>>97633910
Astorum or Ignatum

>>97634112
Ignatum is a really nice legion, I like when people do the hexagonal details

Pic related, my guys

>>97637869
These look pretty neat at this scale, I’m really tempted to look for some at the lgs that carries Ligma and Titanicus

>>97637677
>dad doesn't want to spend time with me anymore
>these FUCKING NORMALFAGS are overruling me
>am I going to get Thunder Warrior'd?

I need reaper autocannons.
NOW.

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The points scaling of Titans in modern AT is the same as in Space Marine/Epic 2nd edition so the points cost for that Imperator at 2250 pt would be accurate (4 1/2 Warlords). Too bad I don't have a full datasheet for it because otherwise you could drop it straight into a modern game with minor modification.

>>97637948
they're great kits, and get more pose-able as the titan gets bigger


I have a warmaster and three 30k scale ones on the table but need to get my airbush up and running again for some of them

>>97627902
I agree that extra articulation would be nice because knights can't plausibly hit anything smaller than a Dreadnought with their sword, but it looks terrible with a hand.

>>97626834
I love the Horus heresy it’s probably my favourite setting, but fucking NO ONE plays it around me.. how do I cope with this feel? I’ve held off buying more stuff because what’s the point

>>97637677
Horus got mad because HR pencil pushers was taking over the Imperium while him, his brothers and sons had bled to build said empire.
Weak people create hard times.

>>97636987
Is this true? Are they mini dreadnoughts?

>>97633487
Do you have a book source for this lore?

>>97638718
You gotta sell the setting to them, time to groom your local players, start by telling them to read the first three horus heresy black library books, starting with Horus Rising. Or ask them to listen to the audiobook while painting.

>>97638472
Agreed, functional arms should reach your thighs