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>Thread question
What's area of the galaxy are <your dudes> fighting in right now? Are they stationary, do they roam around, patrol an area, ect
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KIND
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KUSTODES
KNOCKERS
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>TQ
My Dark Eldar are operating in the Gothic Sector, taking advantage of the 12th Black Crusade to raid undefended human worlds. The Gothic War is tragic for the Imperium, but highly lucrative for the Kabal of the Storied Blade.
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>"don't read BL books" because this Brooks/ADB guy is an idiot
>"don't read the codex" because this Hollywood actor is a fag
>"don't watch sloptube" because that shit is slop
>"don't play the game" because 10th sucks
>"don't play old editions" because Grogs are retards
>"don't tweak rules on your own at all" because who the fuck is going to play made up shit with you
>"don't switch to a different GW game" because AoS/Necromunda/KT/etc is for gay niggers
>"don't buy models" because you would be stupid for paying this much
GW is cooked as a company honestly, there's no way to interact with anything that doesn't make you an idiot.
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I thought of this at work lmao.
What legion's reaction to the Codex Astartes is your favorite? I also find IF amusing, first he refuses, then follows it entirely, then BT rules lawyer the fuck out of it.
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>TQ
I never actually pinpointed the location of my space marines home system on the galactic map, but I've considered it fitting to have them somewhere nearby the ghoul stars. I like the idea of my knightly marines with a large armoury of power swords fending off the unknown horrors within that region of space. It also helps considering I had them largely decimated in their current lore to an unclassified enemy.
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They're definitely top five but I think it shifts from edition to edition between Blood Angels and Dark Angels in the top two slots with Black Templar somewhere else up there near the top with Ultras and Space Wolves.
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>>"don't read BL books" because this Brooks/ADB guy is an idiot
>>"don't watch sloptube" because that shit is slop
>>"don't play the game" because 10th sucks
these are the only true statements
other games and other editions are perfectly fine, as is getting models if you fan afford them or find a deal, or a recast, or whatever alternative you prefer, and also codexes are a treat to read, especially the old ones, and pirating them is free
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I know this one gets cited a lot here but I don't know if it's really indicative of much.
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>>"don't read BL books" because this Brooks/ADB guy is an idiot
I don't read any BL so this doesn't affect me.
>>"don't read the codex" because this Hollywood actor is a fag
I don't read codexes because I don't own them.
>>"don't watch sloptube" because that shit is slop
I don't watch any so this doesn't affect me.
>>"don't play the game" because 10th sucks
I don't play so not an issue for me, I prefer to just build and paint.
>>"don't play old editions" because Grogs are retards
I'm a newfag and too young to have even tried to play.
>>"don't tweak rules on your own at all" because who the fuck is going to play made up shit with you
I don't play so not an issue for me, I prefer to just build and paint.
>>"don't switch to a different GW game" because AoS/Necromunda/KT/etc is for gay niggers
I don't switch to other things because I like warhammer
>>"don't buy models" because you would be stupid for paying this much
You can say this about 90% of hobbies out there. I like the models so I'll buy them and build.
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>>97641300
You're delusional for thinking people don't say the other things literally all the time, and would honestly be hardpressed to actually even deny those statements.
>>97641306
Videogames are way less expensive even after all the AI hikes. Hell, most of the other tabletop games are less expensive. You'd have to get to MTG to see something that costs more than this game.
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Space Marine popularity goes like this and you can't tell me it's otherwise
>Ultramarines (Face of the game for a reason)
>Blood Angels (Red is cool + Space Hulk/Sanguinius raising their popularity + Face of Marines in the 2nd Ed Starter)
>Black Templars (Face of Marines for 3rd Edition + the B/W aesthetic is appealing to most)
>Space Wolves (Furry containment zone)
>Dark Angels (Would be much higher if Black Templars didn't exist)
>Remaining First Founding chapters
>Popular smaller chapters (Crimson Fists, Raptors, Space Sharks, etc)
>Badab War chapters
>The Rest
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>>97641332
Grok sees things differently
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>Abominable Intelligence
You've lost the argument.
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>>97641353
>this is his proof for furfags being #2
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So what percentage of the Imperium's population live in industrial/hive hellscapes?
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Anime Website
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uh, guys? do you think he's posting with us?
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>>97641393
I still wonder how they survive the 20 hour shifts and 1000 calorie per day diet. Imperials are probably a different species than modern man.
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struck a cord did I?
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It's always weird when authors are talking about astartes at rest and they describe them as wearing both bodysuits and robes. I imagine that's gotta look a little goofy, no? What's wrong with a solid monochrome tank top and militarum style fatigue pants? Or is that too relaxed for the grim darkness of the 41st millennium?
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imperials definitely are a very different breed compared to modern humans, 10k years of oppressive regime would already have its impact, but that has also happened after 20k years of genetic drift and adaptation to exoplanets that might have also been enhanced via purposeful genetic engineering
even today we've identified people who can sleep half as much with no discernible downside, that could have probably been isolated and added to colonists
but still, I'd guess a lot of the numbers shouldn't be taken that literally or to their most extreme extent, there's a difference for example between a 20 hours shift of nonstop work and staying 20 hours away from your hab-block for a living, between the 20 hours of the latter there might be alloted timeframes for rests, the absolute minimum and certainly uncomfortable to a near unbearable degree, but possibly survivable
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Grok supports my claim, after Salamanders they don't make the top 4.
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The 20 hour shifts are brought up in RT. Reducing the hours to a more reasonable 10 per day freaked out the citizens and eventually led to them revolting as they took at as a sign of weakness in the leadership. Imperials think cruelty is strength, empathy is weakness, and weakness is heresy. Anybody who comes along and tries to make things better will be killed by the people above him and the people he's trying to uplift below him. That is why nothing can ever get better for the Imperium.
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Does Nurgle have daemon princes? I know he has great unclean ones but do they have traditional ones like picrel?
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I love Quake. I always imagined the campaign is a good facsimile of what attacking an Imperial world would be like, with all the horror and fanaticism from the inhabitants.
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Nah, I vote "painter's block because collage anon banned me"
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>>97641512
The baddies even share similar iconography, like the winged skull and double-headed eagles.
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>Grok sup-
>he can't even put any effort into his own refutation
>he instead asks an AI to speculate on his behalf
If you're going to cope this viciously about being this black, you could at least put some effort into the cope.
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thanks! i normally only see great unclean ones in deathguard art so wasnt sure if they did or not
Ive really enjoyed painting nurglings alongside my deathguard so looking to expand that in the future to other daemons.
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Then why not just wear the robes? I guess it's just the bodysuit that trips me up. Probably because I don't like tight clothing and the idea of wearing one of those things 24/7 makes my skin crawl. I'm part of the Adeptus Autismus.
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Let Chaosidolstake this thread!
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>>97641500
>Does Nurgle have daemon princes?
My Nurgle Bois do :)
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here you go
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>>97641540
demon princes have always been weirdly treated by gw compared to mortal champions and greater demons, but death guard in particular also used to have a specific model for their own
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>>97641576
Uncle Ruckus?
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goofy ass face KEK
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Yep! I've got 5 of the Old DP kits since it's one of my favourite models ever made. I want to 1 for each god and the 5th will be used to make my Be'lakor I want for my 1st and 2nd (Pre-Broken Realms) AoS games :)
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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For me it's the goteslopper claiming his unremoved mouldlines were imperfections caused by the camera
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>Play game at FLGS a bit further away from the normal FLGS I go to for the first time
>Give the other guy take backs whenever he wants, mention ways for him to score more primary and secondary
>He doesn't give me a take back when I ask
Nice. In general, how do you avoid these sorts of people ahead of time? How do you spot them without playing against them first?
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Around 50% of the world’s population lives in cities, and it seems that much of the Imperium has planets with either borderline kowloon tier population density or pre-industrial population meant for a specific purpose (vacation, farming, worship, ect.) with few in between those extremes, so unironically it might be upwards of 80-90%
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>>97641393
Most of them. They're based off of the Skaven from Fantasy Battle, and most of them lived in heavily polluted and overpopulated hives.
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>>97641594
I can't understand why people keep pulling out retarded copes over stuff like this instead of the honest, mundane truths.
>oh yeah, I forgot to highlight all the leather bits
>I didn't realize that moldline was there
>I don't have any game pics because I haven't played since 9th
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What chapter do I paint for 11th edition. I like jump packs, speed and flexibility.
No first founding chapters allowed
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I got 3 of them when they were still around and the other 2 cheap enough due to missing some parts I wasn't in need of. I was quite luck tbhon, in terms of most modelling projects it turned out super cheap.
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I've never played 40k before but I've watched the odd battle on YouTube. Genuine question as I'm considering getting the Red Corsair box or wait for Tau kroot box to be up for preorder... Is this game fun? Mechanics wise, how turns play out, etc? I've moved away where meeting with my friends to play MESBG with isn't an option anymore and there's now a GW and 2 LGS' within very close proximity to me and naturally, 40k is the game of choice in all of these spots. It must be a fun game then surely?
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>>97641647
I’m actually really happy you asked because I just finished painting these boys. I was procrastinating on them all week sadly, but I was able to finish them up today, and I really like how they turned out! be sure to bring up any glaring problems you see.
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>>97641663
Of course he would
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>>97641672
here’s their backpacks as well.
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They look great orkbro
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well done, ork anon
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Damn good looking anon
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>>97641625
remember where you are, anon
>>97641704
there's also one with a barrel drilled off center
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>>97641189
>tfw just discovered fuckin DORLING KINDERSLEY has a Warhammer 40K beginner's guide
Didn't DK use to publish encyclopedias for kids back in the day?
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I got it, its extremely meh. It's more of an overview of 10e tabletop models than an actual lore guide. Which sucks because the encyclopedia format would be great for explaining something like the High Lords or the history of the Imperium.
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I thought I could easily get a free Apothecary by taking bits from the Ravenwing kit and putting them on a spare body. But look at this fucking baby arm bastard.
I guess the only option is cut the narthecium off and stick it on a different arm?
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Based and finishedpilled
I hope you all managed to do something fun this weekend hobbywise.
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>>97641766
Yes. Almost finished the last power armored minis I'll probably paint. Al thats left is the helmet highlights, battle damages, then basing. After that I'm off to do the last 6 termi minis.
Then that's 2000 pts of BT done.
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I developed a bad habit of not cleaning any mold lines until after completely building the model, making it way more annoying to clean up after the fact, and sometimes I just don't even bother. What modeling sins have you committed, Anons?
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>>97641791
i remember teasing an anon about doing this very thing, but he insisted it was "easier"
now what? full of mold lines
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I don't think there's ever been another character that has outmatched Big E, in terms of psykic might.
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for people that paint on the sprue:
what do you do after clipping the piece out of the sprue? do you then scrape off the paint from the surfaces that are supposed to be glued together? do you have to come back and paint over the spots under the sprue connectors?
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I come bearing hard data using the following criteria:
>Only looking at models with visible faces (No helmets)
>Only looking at what's currently on the US GW Webstore
>Only looking at Chapters with full model ranges (Imperial Fists/Raven Guard/etc don't count since they're only a few characters each)
>Generic Space Marine units
White - 10 Reivers, 10 Incursors (One example also shows a Salamanders version but that's not the kind of Black we're talking about), 7 Scouts, 4 Intercessors, 4 Hellblasters, 3 Eradicators, 3 Bladeguard Vets, 3 Assault Intercessors, 2 Eliminators, 2 Centurion Assault, 2 Jumppack Assault Intercessors, 1 Infernus, 1 Suppressor, 1 Sternguard Vet, 1 Company Heroes, 1 Terminator, 1 Desolator, 1 Outrider,1 Aggressor, 1 Heavy Intercessor, 1 Tactical, 1 Infiltrator, 1 vanguard Vet, 1 Assault Term., Jumppack Captain, Term. Captain, Term. Chaplain, Relic Shield Captain, Combi-Lieutenant in Phobos Armor, Chaplain (HoTC), Lieutenant, Term. Librarian, Gravis Captain, Ancient, Techmarine, Captain, Primaris Librarian, Reiver Lieutenant, Phobos Librarian, Phobos Captain, Apothecary, Terminator Ancient (83 Total)
Black - 3 Scouts, 2 Assault Intercessors, 2 Assault Term., 1 Eradicator (HoTC), 1 Eliminator, 1 Centurion Assault, 1 Terminator, 1 Jumppack Assault Intercessor, 1 Sternguard Vet. (13 Total)
~6/1 Ratio
>Ultramarines
W - Guilliman, Titus (I'm not counting the non-Space Marines from his box), Calgar, Cato, Tigurius, 1 Victrix Honour Guard (6)
B - Metaurus (1)
Asian - Gadriel (1)
6/1/1 Ratio
>Blood Angels
W - Mephiston, BA Librarian, Sanguinary Priest, Astorath, BA Captain, 3 Assault Intercessors (Combat Patrol) (8 Total)
100% White
>Dark Angels
W - Lion'El, Belial, Sammael, 2 Deathwing Terminators, Azrael, Lazarus, Interrogator Chaplain, 3 Inner Circle Companions, Ezekiel (12)
B - 2 Deathwing Terminators (2)
6/1 Ratio
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Is Mephiston B tier?
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>Space Wolves
W - 5 Wulven, 4 Blood Claws, 4 Wolfguard Term., 4 Grey Hunters, 4 Wolf Scouts, 3 Thunderwolf Cavlalry, 2 Headtakers, Ragnar, Ulrik, Arjac, Njal, Wolfpriest, Battle Leader, (32)
B - 4 Blood Claws, 1 Wolfguard Term., 1 Headtaker, 2 Grey Hunters, 1 Wolf scout (9)
~3.5/1 Ratio
>Black Templars
W - Helbrecht, 4 Crusaders, Marshal, 1 Sword Brethren, (7)
B - 1 Sword Brethren, 1 Crusader (2)
3.5/1 Ratio
>Grey Knights
W - Castellan Crowe, 1 Purifier, 1 Purgation, 2 Interceptor, 1 Paladin, Voldus, Nemesis Dreadknight (8)
100% White
>Deathwatch
W - Artemis, Watchmaster, 5 Deathwatch (7)
B - 1 Deathwatch
A - 1 Deathwatch
7/1/1 ratio
Mathematically speaking, the blackest chapters are Space Wolves and Black Templars, though Space Wolves are more favored due to having more units showing visible skin while Black Templars have far more characters that only come with helmeted options.
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>>97641892
Your agenda is transparent and your numbers are skewed. Begone filth.
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>>97641892
WG Termies have one ching chong
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>>97641900
Mope all you want, but it's an undeniable fact that of all the major Marine chapters Space Wolves have the most units painted with black skin. To quote you from earlier, "I'll allow the numbers to speak for themselves".
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Isn't the "need keeps" part of the votann model a little contradictory to their economic system? Seems kinda commie to me tbqh
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>tier chart
The Imperium already divides Psykers by Tiers, so why not make a chart out of it.
>>"psyonic"
I suppose "psionic" would have been better. my mistake.
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>Is Mephiston B tier?
I think he's either a high-B or a low-A. Same category a Tigurius imo.
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i formally request a recount on the "whiteness" of top left of:
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I originally wanted them to be simple canvas bags, but midway through I thought they looked a bit bland being one color, so I made the pouches leather to spice it up. But now that you bring it up it is kind of weird, so now I’m stealing your idea that the backpack is entirely leather. makes sense for deathskulls to take everything (including your skin) anyway.
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>>97641960
It's a term used by the fluff.
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For the amount of shit that she pulled off, such as thrashing Grey Knights and even overpowering a Culexus Assassin, I'd easily place her on the "Alpha+" tier.
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>Monday model reveals
What are we expecting, fellas?
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Based. Given the Asian guy in >>97641908 that makes Space Wolves the least white space marine chapter.
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>>97641766
yep ! got quite a few modesl built this weekend and currently working on 10 sternguard vets ! (In before someone shits on me for posting gray models)
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>Have faction with tiny, anemic model range
>Players cry every single day about not having enough data sheets
>Literal free, thematically appropriate unit sitting right there on the shelf in the form of a dual-build kit whose other build option is already used in one of this specific faction's thematic counter parts.
>Choose not to use it because lol lmao
Are GW simply retarded?
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with the latest 30k Custodes box set they've been really cagey about if the models are going to be legal in 40k. so I think there's a possibility that in 11th ed there's going to be even less units that can be used in multiple games.
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>Have faction with tiny, anemic model range
>Players cry every single day about not having enough data sheets
>Literal free, thematically appropriate units sitting right there on the shelf in the form of several brand new kits whose keywords are already used in one of this specific faction's thematic counter parts.
>Choose not to give them a detachment or keyword to make them work at all with it because lol lmao
Are GW simply retarded?
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Nice, I'm looking forward to seeing vahl, she's a great model.
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The Dark Angels complied with Guilliman's order for the legions to break into 1000 man chapters, but in reality those chapters still function together like a legion.
The Space Wolves didn't have enough survivors of the Horus Heresy to even split into chapters, and their one attempt prior to Primaris marines failed horribly.
The Wolves never recovered to any appreciable size due to their gene seed degrading even further and limiting themselves to Fenris, unlike the Black Templars who gave zero shits and kept recruiting like it was M31.
So that meme for Space Wolves would be the Space Wolves talking to themselves.
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Salamanders aren't negroes, their skin turns ash to protect them from radiation, all space marines can do that, their gene flaw just has that turned on all the time, it doesn't mean they're of ancient african descent.
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Fun fact, the slaughterbrute isn't even part of the khorne range in AoS, nor is the vortex beast part of the tzeentch faction. They're both part of the generic chaos warrior guys.
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ni hao, fellow n'was
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I think I've well and truly settled on this scheme. It looks good both clean and dirty. I kind of want to change the bolter color to something that's not red, though.
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Nice ladies
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How would you go about naming an Astra Militarum list for Crusade? Space Marines are generally easy as it can usually be [Chapter Name] [xth Company] [Warlord Name] [Detachment] but for the Imperial Guard, you can't really have a full regiment in 1000-2000 points unless you're from Tanith
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>>97642325
I made him the opposite of the first one I painted
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>>97642294
you may not have an entire regiment but not all regiments are at full strength. Casualties coupled with a remote location or limited recruitment pool may mean that some regiments are small af
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>>97642422
pls do NOT bully me, I've only been into this hobby for 2 weeks
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>>97642364
The blue one likes gork on some days but mork on others, and the yellow one is the other way around
>>97642372
Snotlings are a limited resource that they fight over
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>>97642294
Name of the Company in the Regiment you are playing or something like "Battlegroup [Name]".
1st Company or F Company for two Company examples. The Battlegroup might just have a letter or number too or be named after the commanding Officer instead.
Also instead of Battlegroup you could use names like Task Force, Combat Command, Kampfgruppe, Forward Detachment, or anything else you can steal from history.
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Besides noctilith (apparently I'm the only one that remembers), adamantium, and wraithbone & soulstone, what other minerals of note are there? Especially psychically reactive.
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GW is super inconsistent with this, so you could just say "Task Force" or "Operation Force" or "Element" if you want to cover that it has forces pulled from across the Regiment (for example if you are Cadian you want tanks from a tank company and infantry pulled maybe from multiple companies) or the catch all "Regiment" and "Company" if you want to front and center that grouping and its just common sense that those forces would have attached elements like tanks and support staff.
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Blackstone is the current most important mcguffin one, very important to both the admech and necrons and lets you make warpspace walls that prevent demons from crossing over. So I think you already have it covered. I see the term "plasteel" being use a lot too in an Imperium context.
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Also some TO&E list Imperial Guard Regiments as having Brigades within their Regiments to group their Companies together so you could use Brigade instead. I think Brigades only appears in some Imperial Armour volumes, whenever Codexes or campaign books listed a Regimental TO&E the organization always goes Platoon -> Company -> Regiment.
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>Imperium - Adeptus Custodes - Lions of the Emperor (1000pts)
>Blade Champion (120pts): Warlord
>Shield-Captain in Allarus Terminator Armour (130pts): Guardian Spear
>5x Custodian Guard (190pts)
>2x Allarus Custodians (110pts)
>5x Custodian Wardens (260pts)
>5x Prosecutors (50pts)
>4x Witchseekers (45pts)
>Inquisitor Draxus (95pts)
This okay? I could squeeze in a Rhino for scouting with Witchseekers if I went MSU on everything (and still no enhancements) at the cost of weakening the other squads. If not, was thinking of dropping one woman for Admonimortis; sometimes the Prosecutors go by pretty peacefully, other times they get quite a bit of attention.
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Yeah plasteel, rockrete, ceramite and fio'tak are important structural materials, but the others are like natural resources that can be found, right? Even if wraithbone can also be sung into being, I heard it's also out there.
It's just that I was thinking what resources can there be to be fought for? Fissile materials (uranium), fusionable materials (Hydrogen), consumables (Oxygen, Carbon).
I think of Pirate eldar, Tau outcasts, Explorator magi, but they all end up becoming mineral quests.
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thats how you get Ferrus Manus, leader of the Iron Fist chapter, ruling from their battle barge Fist of Iron.
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Which DE models/units do you think are getting updated in 11th? Which ones do you think are never coming back?
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>>97642412
Easiest thing would be to just use a blood effect paint.
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>>97642431
no bully intended but I don't even know where to start. paint the staff some other color first maybe, what were you going for in the first place?
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>>97642294
The old 7th Ed Cadian supplement had Combined Arms Cadian Battle Groups made up of Companies from multiple different Regiments. "Battle Group Thunder".
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Part of the problem was that I was changing my mind while I was painting and had no real direction, for the staff specifically I wanted it like blood coming down the whole thing, as if he stabbed someone at the top
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actually really helpful thanks, I already have a Grizzled Company called Taskforce Blackfin because I'm basing them heavily off of Taskforce 141 but those suggestions you have are super that Im definitely keeping in my back pocket
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>>97642583
https://wahapedia.ru/
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>>97642431
>just started hobby
>grabs one of the weirdest, most fuck ass kits necrons have in their lineup
>paints the big guy first
>tries experimenting with effects on said big guy
DAMN, absolutely no bullying, but I think you need to set him down and try painting some basic necron warriors to get good at it, and then fuck around with blood effects on them, and then when you can effectively do that you can move onto the big guy. For painting blood, I will say that GW does sell “Blood for the Blood God” paint under “technical” that does blood effects really well.
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>are you supposed to know the rules for your army
abso-fucking-lutely, playing against an opponent that has to always go back to check their codex because they can't remeber is a terrible experience
>and any potential opponents army
it's good to have know how their army generally works, but if you run into something that seems busted or very convinent for the situation it never bad to just say "wow that's nuts, can you show me how it works" to check that your opponent is playing it correctly/it actually exists.
Generally people don't try and cheat, but sometimes peoples understanding of the game can affect how they think certain units work.
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>>97642630
1: We got that out of the way at the end of last thread/start of this one.
2: Don't bring him up if you don't want his shit in here.
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>>97642576
Another resource to consider stealing from is this wiki list of Ad-hoc military formations articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ad_hoc_units_and_formations
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>>97642630
Yea I would appreciate it if posts like these did not get made, it seriously hinders my ability to rehabilitate my reputation.
>>97642657
So then don't respond, its that simple chief.
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>>97642536
You do need bad management to explain poverty in a setting where the resources of a million worlds are available.
There may not be free lunchest, but a single star is 500,000,000 years of surplus lunches, and this is a setting where you can cross the billion miles of empty space between stars.
There's literally no need for conflict because there's enough resources and space for everyone, forever.
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Checking in...
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>trusting gork over mork>>97642686
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>Woah you painted all of these anon?? You're really talented! :)
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>>97642740
>mork
based and electric undergroundpilled
What faction has pure nitauku skill based arcade gameplay with high density and no rpg mechanics?
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If you’re >>97642431 then that’s because its one of your first models, and its expected you’ll have growing pains. This dude has painted 4 different armies (necrons, space wolves, ultramarines, knights) and he’s still shit at it.
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What I like to do is take a picture of my assembled model, then open up a free art program like MSPaint or Firealpaca, paste the screenshot, then plan out your scheme.
It helps if you have different ideas of where you want to take a model.
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Are there any sources for the Red Scorpions besides the Imperial Armour books? I'm starting a red scorpions 2nd ed KT list and I'd appreciate it if there was some other place to draw from.
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>>97642788
Yea but i outmodel you 20 to 1 bitch
>>97642801
Kys you pathetic scum, you don't know a single thing about me.
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>Hmmmm, yes I think I'll choose "average human"
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>redditor
>reditor
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>>97642826
> mid 30s
> skinnyfat white dude
> single and desperate for female attention
> high tendency to bring up trannies (some sort of projection? chaser maybe)
> Socially isolated (No one would make 10+ reddit accounts if they had a solid social group and wasn't looking for validation)
>American(?) that prides himself on slav-mutt heritage
That's all I got
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Painted my first vostroyan in over a year, I think they are cool dolls
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concrete rubble as vostroyans are masters of urban combat for some reason
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ty King
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>t.nomodels
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Do you guys find it easier to paint individuals than whole units?
Im finding i'll have an idea for one model and see it through to the end over a weekend, but then if i gotta do 10 it instantly becomes work and im dragging it out over a month
i got 5 sanguinary guard to go right now and i just can't be bothered
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>>97642904
I'd check to see specifically if the basic battlelines, one or two of their HQs, and maybe an elite unit or vehicle are aesthetically appealing to you. For example:
>boyz
>mekboy
>shokkjump dragsta and all the other ork cars
Also if their general playstyle is appealing that's important. I'll probably never get orks because hordes don't interest me much.
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>>97642778
'ate Primaris
'ate Chaos
'ate Daemons and Xenos
Luv me Tanks
Luv me Artillery
Luv me Emprah
Simple as
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>>97642953
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>>97642956
Don't even need to read the rest to know that's not worth my time.
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>>97642956
yes, and?
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>>97642850
you should have included doesnt have a job, I think being autistic and unable to live independently is an important part of his story. I genuinely think hes so autistic he has special needs handlers that help him with the day to day.
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>>97642778
HUMAN FIGHTER HUMAN FIGHTER
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>>97642972
I don't have any of what you just mentioned but honestly why are you even talking about my personal life? Don't you hate namefag drama? Or are you a false disingenuous cretin that lives to torment prestigious modelers because you yourself are a modeless scumlord?
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After Big Stick the next Collage theme should be making custom characters that use the Crucible Character Creator rules.
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>>97642956
>Blah blah blah, Krieg is based
World war one has some of the coolest aesthetics. Add whatever-punk to it and you're set.
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>>97642979
as a namefag lolcow, like chris chan or dark side phil, I do in fact take in interest in the circumstances that produced such a remarkable and unique specimen such as yourself. I've gone beyond anger or annoyance, you are simply a pathetic fixture that continues to surprise at the levels of pathetic retardation you will stoop too.
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>>97643025
Aladdin came out in 1992 you redditor, using your own dumb logic, Jasmine is of age
>we may live in the grimdarkness of the future but i would never, ever, EVER rape or have sex with someone under the age of consent
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>>97643023
>Every accusation is an admission, pathetic child. Enjoy prison, stalker.
you are just like him. it's actually unreal
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Samefag niggerisms
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>>97643029
my logic never included the age of the movie tf you on about? also mind by your logic you’re lusting after a woman in her late forties. there’s nothing wrong with that of course, but she’s definitely going to be MILFed up by then.
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>>97642583
So this is how you can tell if someone is taking advantage of you or is being legitimate:
>Wait, how does that work?
We're a bunch of autismos playing with little plastic army men. You better believe the second someone takes interest in some combo their army has. They will immediately explain in detail how it works.
Example:
Admech Haloscreed Battleclade meme combo(its bad in practice, I've tried)
>Belisarius Cawl
>1 Techpriest Manipulus
>10 Electropriests
>1 Dunerider
>Cawl points at a unit, giving the army reroll hits against it
>Electropriests+Manipulus disembark
>Dunerider shoots to give priests reroll wounds
>priests now have reroll hits, reroll wounds
>manipulus gives Lethal Hits
>Electropriests have Sustained 2
>strat to crit on 5s to hit
>30 attacks sustained 2 lethals rerolling all hits and wounds, specifically looking for only 5s and 6s
>This averages 16 lethals and 32 regular hits
>40ish percent chance to one tap a C'tan shard
>force lightning a god to death
Any cheater will not be able to explain this level of detail. An enthusiastic autist will share their excitement.
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>>97643081
really nigga?
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>>97641256
In RT they were used as an example of a codex chapter.
It's weird IH don't get the same non-codex treatment as SW, despite being split quite similarly into companies that contain all the elements needed from scouts to veterans, rather than scouts and veterans being in their own companies. BA were among the first to adopt the Codex and DA adhere to it at least on paper.
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>>97641922
Yeah, I like the old school fire paintjob on marine armor.
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Thanks, I'll try to takke a pic, but since its an infantry spam its a lot of minis. So far its pic rel
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>>97643134
>the army of bloodthirsty savages with no impulse control, recruited from gun-gangs and barbarians
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And their army acronym is WE too.
From what I could tell they're the BLACKEST army in the entire game, with Space Wolves and Black Templars tied for second. And all three of those are in the same category of "aggressive melee army with not a lot of thinking involved."
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The Imperial Knight I'm picking up in a few days is piloted by the Prince of the House /mydudes/ belong to. He's in a secret relationship with the pilot of the Armiger that serves as his protector, retainer and companion on the battlefield, another man, and if this ever came out they'd both be banished from their homeworld and forever shamed.
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Are indirect fire guns worth it? Mortars look so weak compared to heavy bolters.
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>https://gofile.io/d/wFvrCC
This what you're after?
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>height false advertising
>soft fingers and no arrow
but at least GW nailed "le troonscale" that has been proontable for years now and thus red corsairs are "worth the money", right fellow sloppers?
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>Try to see subfactions for Aeldari
>Only a couple of Cradtworlds besides the main 5
>Look up Kabals for Dark Eldar
>There's a massive ton
>Also find out Haemonculus Covens and Wych Cults also have a bunch of subfactions
What the fuck? What do I need to look up to find subfactions for Aeldari then?
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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Craftworld#Notable_Craftworlds
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>>97643419
Unless those chaos guardsmen are freakishly tall that's just not what the normal human scale is everywhere else. And while the "new" chaos terminators are smaller than they should be I don't think they are smaller than regular CSM legionnaires.
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Has anyone tried the new orbital assault detachment? I've been waiting for drop pods to become viable since 7th but I'm having trouble working it out. The detachment feels like it favours other playstyles and in practice I never have board space to place pods effectively.
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Sometimes reading opinon pieces on how the edition is too lethal because space marines/custards struggle makes me think that the game should have a pve mode with gamemaster where their imperial emperormaxxed models just get to feel cool as npcs have to make 6+ s3 ap0 damage 0 attacks against them, with warlord being super dangerous with 5+ s4 ap1 damage 1 profile
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They're durable compared to most Eldar units, but that's not saying much. At least in their own detachment with the -1 to wound against S>T. They don't really have a lot of damage output or speed though so you're still reliant on other DE units like scourges, mandrakes, and hellions to take out tanks and hold objectives.
Part of it is "Covens" is just 4 units right now and two of them (Wracks, Haemonculus) are overcosted for how little they do. Their dedicated detachment is also very janky with two useless strategems (poison, revive a Haemonculus) and the best one being situationally dependent on Battleshock
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The attacker has to confirm two waves of rolls: one against their own accuracy, one matching their weapon strength against the enemy toughness. Only dice that pass both rolls get to then be rolled by the defender against their own armor save adjusted by the attacker's armour penetration.
Or maybe they just made a mistake and were more focused on keeping the game moving along at a brisk pace than double checking a missed die on one weaker inconsequential attack.
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The Terminid player rolled 10, and 5 melee attacks went through. So the Space Marine player rolled saves to see if any attack wounded him but the thing is he rolled 4 despite the fact the Terminid player had 5 successful dice rolls out of 10. WHERE'D THE 5TH ONE GO?
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It's certainly not great in the current meta, but these kinds of things change all the time. The pain engines are decent and the Wracks have been some of their most oppressive units in the past (9th edition thick city was notorious) and maybe again some day. Nobody runs the Covens detachment in tournaments to the point there's not even data for it. But that can change with a single data slate (1 week away) or an edition change (3 months away).
The real problem is that Wyches are cheap and fast and do real damage while also having OC2 and are just better to have in most lists right now even outside of their dedicated detachment. Kabalites have a similar problem to Wracks where they kind of got worse and also more expensive in the codex. It's a hard and unforgiving faction to play right now and you need to squeeze every point out of a lost that you can.
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https://youtu.be/hJRRnY4Kquk?si=em6fP0hvicyk7yfk
Fight phase part of the video.
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What have you painted so far this year, /40kg/?
>finished 10 neophytes and 10 gargoyles from the end of last year
>painted another 10 neophytes
>benefictus
>patriarch
>reductus saboteur
>acolyte hybrids (5 man with mining tools)
Which isnt much but its not bad for a slow painter like myself
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I'm imagining how horrific that would be for Guard because I bet they'd force you to take the specific regimental command squads to unlock their regiminetal infantry squads (ie 1 catachan command squad to take 1-3 catachan squads)
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I'm in the process of finishing 60 termagants, still need to paint the concrete the tongues, the eyes and teeth with a black wash and a last cover of post shade metallics, but they are almost ready to base.
Finished 20 gargoyles, 10 genestealers a tyranofex with acid spray and got my death leaper to a point I'm satisfied.
I'm currently painting the starter set for killteam as a reset button from so many tyrnaids, I'm going to paint the death guard as the cleaved unless someone suggests something cooler
What's the coolest death guard scheme you guys would recommend?
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The amount of freedom we have right now sucks balls and promotes spammy ass lists so that would be an improvement. The quickest ways to improve 10th without changing the core rules would be to add some kind of FOC, make points and wargear work like 9th again and add cover saves and obscuring terrain back into the game.
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Well excuse me princeps but I do enjoy having minimal characters and just a bunch of infantry with some repulsors on the side.
I don't want a fucking specific hero character or a bunch of tech Marines telling me I can't take 2 repulsors, 2 impulsors and a executioner to have fun with a fast mobile support force of dakka Marines.
Seriously I don't think you get to have fun with transports in old editions outside of very dumb formations.
Let's be real if we get age of Warhammer it will devolve into screens and hammers with an even more toxic meta revolving around epic heroes.
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Transports used to be free slots (and still are in 30k which uses a similar system to AoS, though crunchier) so I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. You'd still be able to do that under any kind of FOC. The FOC is jus there to stop degenerate stuff like 3 ballistus + 3 vindicators + the entirety of the ultramarine character clowncar + a single scout squsd like we have had in 10th.
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>>97643755
>Well excuse me princeps but I do enjoy having minimal characters and just a bunch of infantry with some repulsors on the side.
That's really funny because 10th is already characterspam while most old editions aswell as 30k just have a one or two for most armies as characters aren't gimmicky buff machines units are balanced around.
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>>97643799
Understandable, I think most people feel that way.
I prefer painting in 5s but if a squad is 10 I feel like I have to do it all at once as I like to see the consistent progress and I want them all done at the same time.
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>>97643693
Did pic rel, plus the 4 neophytes of the crusader squad >>97641779
Hoping to do the 6 termis before summer.
Either I take a long break from painting or tackle another 2k army.Tyranids are in my radar, or deldar with WHF delf parts.
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>>97643750
Time? Time is what I don't have, this entire week I'm not playing any games between fixing some kinks in my home and helping my mum.
Also it's not like painting the cleaved is hard, pro acryl bold titanium white and titanium white from the ronin line mix really well and get you a pearly white, I'm basically cheating with that combo, I'll do the silver trim in a small break tomorrow and see what I can do for the blood effects and maybe make some kornate nurglings since I already did a base of titanium with orange, I'm pretty open to see if I can add some yellow and dark brown to finish with a green wash or keep going with red and browns.
>>97643769
This works well for base colors and small one color details, it's like an assembling line of putting the eyes on the dragon so to speak.
>>97643781
My fear is coming from the age of sigmar rules becoming Warhammer rules, not regression to boring charts and naked troops to save points .
I do recall heavy supports having some restrictions back in the day which caused some problems with tanks and transports.
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>>97643755
>Seriously I don't think you get to have fun with transports in old editions outside of very dumb formations.
lolwut. Rhino rush and fish of fury are two of the most famous army builds of the 3rd/4th era. Sisters used to be the gangsta drive by faction too.
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>>97643693
I didn’t do anything for january, but for february I painted
>2 spindle drones
>2 ur-ghuls
>2 ork boyz
>7 ork kommandos
Mostly schizophrenically bouncing around, but now I’m fairly confident in my painting abilities, so now I’m going to knock out entire units starting with the kommandos.
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>>97643826
You may as well speak in ancient language, I'm sorry for not having a grey beard to remember the magical realm of 4th edition the ancients seem to recall.
I do find it funny that whenever old people reminiscence fondly about old hammer is always 4th, no one wants to remember 6th or 8th.
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>>97643824
I also want 40k to stay the fuck away from AoS rules since every issue I have with the game since 8th and especially in 10th comes directly from AoS. But having an actual FOC even if it's in the style of AoS/30 is better than having none at all like 10th. Issues with heavy support and transports only happened to stuff like land raiders that had a transport capacity but weren't dedicated transports because it's a whole ass tank full of guns, not just a metal box with treads.
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>>97643693
Pic relateed, i'm going to focus on Titanicus now, but I want to make a CSM list
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>>97643835
>no one wants to remember 6th or 8th.
Proabably because 6th and 7th were a clusterfuck that needed a big trim and 8th was when they did the trim and fucked it up. The pre-8th core system was better, but you're not gonna choose the wrost version of it.
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>>97642504
Grotesques and Rakarth are basically guaranteed even if they don't get a big wave next edition. Maybe a new pain engine chassis too. Kheradruakh/Decapitator probably as well. All are mentioned extensively in recent material.
Vect seems like a shoe-in at some point. Classic, iconic, big and flashy for a range with no centerpiece.
Court probably won't return in the same shape or form, but Ur-ghuls and Sslyth are both super popular and the former is already in plastic. The do seem like a good fit for the new 5-man-elite quad Kill-Team has been favoring lately along with the new Archon.
Beastmasters are weird and the Warpbeast pack of hounds is classic since the army launched but the clawed fiend and birds have always been weird. They might try to give them the Helspiders or Megasaur from the lore instead.
Wyches, Hellions, Scourges, Succubus, and Haemonculus are all old and janky model kits that will be updated at some point. Scourges and Wyches are still on slotted bases that GW has already phases out of all their other ranges.
Forgeworld stuff is probably gone forever. The flyers are on their way out too. The Tantalus MIGHT return as an alternative build for Vect's battlebarge if they're
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>>97643855
Nah. CSM proportions are better. Marines aren't supposed to be just humans but scaled up 1.5 times. They are supposed to be unnaturally wide and built like shit brickhouses. CSM achieve that while also making them properly tall.
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>>97643870
I started in 4th, I remember it was just before the BT codex released because the local GWs owner told me about the new rules coming out soon when I took my BTs there to play one evening.
I think I just remember 8th fondly because I played it a lot with a couple of close friends if im going to be honest.
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>>97643821
Thanks! It was hard at first, which is why I trained by doing squiggle scripts for my Templars.
I use .003 and .005 microns for straight lines, but for a more curved patterns I just use a brush. The microns make it much easier than what it is.
I use a brush for when I need to add colors though.
For the orange I use Jokaero orange. Its the perfect color. I used seraphim sephia for the wash, and jokaero mixed with any bone color for the highlights.
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>>97643879
>I think I just remember 8th fondly because I played it a lot with a couple of close friends if im going to be honest.
I feel the same about 5th myself. That was my largest saturation of friends playing the game with me while we were all learning and everyone was bad at optimization and just ran cool stuff and we all still painted together.
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>>97643902
If I recall correctly, Andy Chambers actually suggested in 4th edition when he was the lead game developer and was shot down. I think there's an interview with him somewhere about it and why they ultimately decided it was too fundamental a change to the identity of 40k as a game.
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>>97643930
alternate activation would be interesting, but it would take a bit of tuning so that high activation army can't just out activate their opponent.
I really like how SW legion does it with the Order tokens and the randomisation on things you didn't actively order, so you can't always use the exact unit you want at the right time.
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>>97643940
But those units have way more capabilities than individual models in Necromunda do. There's alsoa big difference in number and power between different units. If they just straight up switched to alternating activations elite armies would just cease to work because any army with access to chaff can just take 10 msu units to force the elite army to activate their units with nothing to do before the other army can activate all their good units at the same time. You'd need to fundamentally change the core of the game to the point that it would be unrecognizable.
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>>97643928
MESBG is stil a skirmish game. There's a reason why the vast majority of skirmish games use alternating activations and why unit games don't. It just works better for some kinds of games and worse for others.
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>>97643943
It honestly would be too much of a leap with stratagems being a good stand in for order cards, but it would definitely take a lot of work to implement as a house rule.
>>97643949
You know what's also bad, having a mismatch in activation sizes which leads to people using their trash units first to bait out your opponents activations, and once activated their entire army you can just sweep them up with all the good units you held off activating.
Legion has lots of ways to work around the random amount activation, but if someone tries to spam out things for activation spam they can run into the lack of control issue.
You need ways to balance AA, and uncertain activation has been a good system that legion has been using.
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Any anons have a good guide to sculpting rivers? I wanna put a river running along the base of my Lord of Change but the sculpting process and figuring out how the water should behave is stumping me a bit. I might be a bit retarded but this is my first proper sculpting
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>>97643902
>Really, what's the reason GW's hellbent on using IGOUGO for 40k?
Two reasons
They believe IGOUGO makes the game FEEL like warhammer, rather than some other game, so there's a sort of ideological conservatism about it
They manage to sell with this type of rules and have worked on decades-long game designs and attempts at balance around this system, so they'll very much prefer sticking to what they know rather than waddling into uncharted waters as long as numbers go up
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People keep claiming that it would easy for alternating actions to be included in 40K, but that requires a complete overhaul of the game to function properly and I legitimately think it would kill the game for good.
FOC is also a meme that people shouldn’t cling to. Not as severe as it, but I’d rather see more dynamic list building.
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>>97643902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0IevQKFbKI
Summary for lazy people, like me:
> Historical and thematic reasons: Desire to maintain a strategic game feel reflecting grand battlefield maneuvers.
> Design challenges: Huge variability in army size and composition (from very few large units to many small units) complicates alternate activation balancing.
> Community and market realities: The games are more popular than ever with I-GO-U-GO; a major change risks alienating the established player base.
> Studio awareness: The design studio actively experiments with alternate activation in skirmish titles but opts to refine I-GO-U-GO for flagship games, introducing mitigations like reactive command abilities in Age of Sigmar to reduce downtime.
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>>97643978
>people using their trash units first to bait out your opponents activations, and once activated their entire army you can just sweep them up with all the good units you held off activating.
So stratagy is bad
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>>97643828
I had to think back to when the last 40K release I liked and that was probably when gene stealers released. So 7th edition? I can’t recall.
But yeah I liked Aos sculpts better. Test painted the new basic bitch stormcast and they were more fun to paint at the shop than marines imo. If I get better at painting I’ll pick up one of the elf armies after I’m done with tau.
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A game doesn't need alternating activations to be good. Warmachine for example was IGOUGO too and was a great game. 40k is just shit. But along those same lines, people saying "it would require a fundamental change to the game" as if it was a bad thing are dumb because 40k sucks and does need a fundamental change.
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>>97643998
No, but given the how diverse 40k armies are in terms of hoards, elites, and inbetween, implementing ways to reduce activation is important to keep that diversity alive.
Like I said, legion has ways to work around this, e.g. certain units able to bounce orders to each other when they're close, which also leads to counter play options on breaking those link units.
How would you go about balance AA activation spam so that all types of armies would be viable is some way?
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>>97644003
warmachine was eaten by crunching numbers so that no matter how cool your robot looked it couldn't square up to 20 dudes one rounding it so it went from a skirmishy game to borderline wargame because you had to fill out the points and warjacks were just a distraction carnifexes
starcraft is going with alternating but in order to not make the game a messy drag of getting outactivated you have to start with half army in reserves and get supply turn after turn but that comes with it's own baggage
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>>97644003
Are you underage or are you legitimately retarded? What compelled you to share that? Are you looking for attention?
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>>97644007
>How would you go about balance AA activation spam so that all types of armies would be viable is some way?
I wouldn't, larger armies having more activations is a benefit of a larger army to balance out their units being worse.
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>>97643995
>FOC is also a meme that people shouldn’t cling to.
I do like the classic 40k FOC but the point is that list building needs trestrictions and structure. Not only because it's better for balance, but because it enforces more varied lists and makes listbuilding a lot more interesting and engaging than what they did with 10th.
Stratagemns need to die in a fire though. I'm fucking tired of gimmicky abilities and metacurrencies to keep track of. Let units, their wargear and stats and tactics do the talking.
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>>97644014
But hoard army's also have elite units in there to balance that out themselves.
So the build would be for nids is just spam min squads of rippers and other low point units, then once your close to good amount you then just use that sizeable remaining points to take monsters and elites.
AA is a fun system, but it's not perfect and very susceptible it's own balancing problems, which is a reason why 40k has stayed with its current system to this day since it's rules writers can't balance for shit and are honestly down right retarded.
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>So the build would be for nids is just spam min squads of rippers and other low point units, then once your close to good amount you then just use that sizeable remaining points to take monsters and elites.
WAACfaggorty
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>>97643371
if so, you're still silly
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>mfw none of the new models actually has the Red Corsair keyword
wtf
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Huron actually used to have it on his old sheet
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>>97644189
>that cover art
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>In addition to this narrative, a new set of rules brings classic large-scale Apocalypse games back to Warhammer 40,000 with a system of modular guidelines and adjustments that make it a breeze to run battles of epic proportions.
If it's not a 1:1 re-release of the 8th edition apocalypse ruleset I don't want it, their rules team peaked with that and have never reached that high since
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>The destruction of Cadia at the height of Abaddon’s 13th Black Crusade brought unimaginable woes upon the Imperium – not least the creation of the Great Rift – but despite the forces of Chaos now surging from the Eye of Terror in great numbers, the Cadian Gate has not truly fallen. Imperial bastions and forge worlds still desperately hold out against the tide, and while they stand, Chaos cannot truly begin its grinding march towards Holy Terra.
it was all for nothing then, we're back to square one
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These covers look embarrassing. It’s on par with ninjas Minecraft pro guide.
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Would people even understand me if I said it looked like something out of scholastic fair instead? Do kids still get that?
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lol I play CSM and I'm like damn you GW niggas really want to give me more detachments? I haven't even played all the ones that released. Oh well bring them on. Looks like it'll be a reworking of Fellhammer siege host and Soulforge warpack
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Are thousand sons rumored to get anything rule wise soon
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>>97644282
>he doesn't love trainwrecks
>he doesn't love trainwrecks he accurately foresaw
must suck to be a normalfag
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>>97644313
>literally splitting your fanbase between two game systems
>people still pissy a decade later
>not a trainwreck
"utter ruin immediately from the consequences of actions" is a notion only zoomers and fags obsessed about "winning" something expect.
choose.
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>>97644343
Next you're going to tell me killing off TOW wasn't a train wreck either.
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>>97644329
>literally splitting your fanbase between two game systems
This is good. Broadens your consumer audience.
>people still pissy a decade later
Good. Any press is good press.
>not a trainwreck
Gw still aren’t professional enough is my only complaint with them.
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>>97644346
>create whole new game system to appeal to the people you alienated
>then remove everything that made it appealing a decade later
>community shrivels and is currently in it's death throes
again, time has to elapse first, zoomer
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>>97644350
Retarded fucks who go above and beyond the call of duty to shill for GW
>>97644358
>What is Grizzled Company?
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>killing off TOW
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>>97644352
>This is good. Broadens your consumer audience.
take it up with >>97644346
>thinks "outrage" is sustainable
people will get bored and completely check out once they notice "their" pet project isn't getting attention
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>triggered by a misnomer
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>>literally splitting your fanbase between two game systems
It didn't really do that. Marinefags still play 40k and buy primaris shit.
>>people still pissy a decade later
People who are pissy about it even now are never going to happy regardless what GW does.
Also at the same time this whole fanbase "split" is entirely performative and means fuck all.
The people who jumped ship to Horus Heresy are STILL buying and playing GW products, aka GW is still making money off these retards while the said retards think their temper tantrum meant anything.
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>>97641242
>"don't read the codex" because this Hollywood actor is a fag
What in the schizophrenic fuck do those have to do with each other
>"don't tweak rules on your own at all" because who the fuck is going to play made up shit with you
Ahhhh this explains a lot. The people you're supposed to do that with are called your "friends". Makes sense that one would confuse you
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>>97644352
>Broadens your consumer audience.
A new audience? Perhaps a more "modern" one?
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>>97644402
Besides the marine ones being tied to specific chapters no detachment as far as I can tell *has* to be a specific subfaction. Your autism is severe. ALSO what was Cadia besides the highlighted part in picrel? Do I need to break it down further or..?
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>>97644419
Only works on SW players.
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>>97644425
>they delayed telling them about 8th to fuck over Fires of Cyraxus.
No. Fires of Cyraxus got fucked over because the guy working on them fucking died.
It has nothing to do with internal rivalries, you retard.
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>>97644425
It's retarded enough that you think there is a rivalry but it's mega retarded to think that literally nobody from the two departments talked at all when they work in the same offices, same buildings, eat in the same places, ect.
No body talked to other staff, no higher up sent an email with the dates, no staff meetings, nothing.
Seriously, you have be be fucking deluded to think that's the case
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>>97644391
End Times was FUN!
Everyone was having such a great time, and totally wasn't a trainwreck.
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gottem
at least you're now in the acceptance phase of your collection of buff african men
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I forgot age of smegmar put their dark elf wyches in hijabs KWAB
Absolutely halal!
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I think they're meant to be like the old Dark Elf Executioners.
I don't mind them on their own, is kinda odd they used them for the Witch Elf faction though.
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>White Space Wolf recruit, reporting in!
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Did you know Njal's Crows first name is Jim?
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How do you think they'll butcher tacticals with the updated kit? Seems like every unit they've released recently with special weapons just has a plasmagun or a meltagun per 5 models. Will they finally let primaris use rhinos? If rhino rushed tacticals are 11th's op combo it will be very funny.
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