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>Thread question
What's area of the galaxy are <your dudes> fighting in right now? Are they stationary, do they roam around, patrol an area, ect
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I think Grey Knights are dumb
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KIND
KOLOSSAL
KUSTODES
KNOCKERS
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DECALFAG IS NOT HUMAN!
LOATHE THE DECALFAG!
REPORT ALL SIGHTINGS OF DECALFAG TO YOUR LOCAL JANNY!
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>>97641203
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Lorgar isn't that important.
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>>97641200
The only ritualposter i respect
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>>97641189
>TQ
My Dark Eldar are operating in the Gothic Sector, taking advantage of the 12th Black Crusade to raid undefended human worlds. The Gothic War is tragic for the Imperium, but highly lucrative for the Kabal of the Storied Blade.
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>>97641214
This is brutal af. Jesus Christ anon lmfao
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>TQ
While the majority of my men are based on Fenris, a small contingent of Warrior with the Assistance of a Cerastus Knight do Patrol Midgardia just in case the Necron menace returns.
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>>97641225
Did you really need to link that here you disgusting freak? Its off topic and reads like it was written by a 2 year old chimp.
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>"don't read BL books" because this Brooks/ADB guy is an idiot
>"don't read the codex" because this Hollywood actor is a fag
>"don't watch sloptube" because that shit is slop
>"don't play the game" because 10th sucks
>"don't play old editions" because Grogs are retards
>"don't tweak rules on your own at all" because who the fuck is going to play made up shit with you
>"don't switch to a different GW game" because AoS/Necromunda/KT/etc is for gay niggers
>"don't buy models" because you would be stupid for paying this much
GW is cooked as a company honestly, there's no way to interact with anything that doesn't make you an idiot.
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>>97641242
(You)
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>>97641242
kek, its just lefties trying to destroy the hobby from the inside out, ignore them and build you boys brother.
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>>97641241
>Did you really need to link that here you disgusting freak?
Yes, I appreciate a good REKT-ing.
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I thought of this at work lmao.
What legion's reaction to the Codex Astartes is your favorite? I also find IF amusing, first he refuses, then follows it entirely, then BT rules lawyer the fuck out of it.
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>>97641253
Why not add the SW in this, they are not considered compliant either.
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>>97641189
>tq
Near the Veiled Region. The southern edge of the Segmentum Tempestus. Also /mydudes/ are living around c.940.M41 because I like the old Imperium more.
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>>97641256
because nobody gives a fuck about space yiffs
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>>97641256
Cease, mutant.
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>>97641189
>TQ
I never actually pinpointed the location of my space marines home system on the galactic map, but I've considered it fitting to have them somewhere nearby the ghoul stars. I like the idea of my knightly marines with a large armoury of power swords fending off the unknown horrors within that region of space. It also helps considering I had them largely decimated in their current lore to an unclassified enemy.
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>>97641260
They're the second most popular Marine chapter you stupid wop.
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>>97641266
>>97641261
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>>97641266
>They're the second most popular Marine chapter
Who told you that?
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>>97641276
Someone linked it here not that long ago and Blood Angels were third. Also our big box was the most sold last year per GW. We are incredibly popular and well liked amongst the community.
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>>97641266
They're definitely top five but I think it shifts from edition to edition between Blood Angels and Dark Angels in the top two slots with Black Templar somewhere else up there near the top with Ultras and Space Wolves.
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>>97641280
>Someone linked it here not that long ago
Linked what
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>>97641280
>we
really not beating the autism allegations
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>>97641286
It was a total player base statistics post idk man but it looked super legit.
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>>97641242
>>"don't read BL books" because this Brooks/ADB guy is an idiot
>>"don't watch sloptube" because that shit is slop
>>"don't play the game" because 10th sucks
these are the only true statements

other games and other editions are perfectly fine, as is getting models if you fan afford them or find a deal, or a recast, or whatever alternative you prefer, and also codexes are a treat to read, especially the old ones, and pirating them is free
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I know this one gets cited a lot here but I don't know if it's really indicative of much.
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>>97641242
>>"don't read BL books" because this Brooks/ADB guy is an idiot
I don't read any BL so this doesn't affect me.
>>"don't read the codex" because this Hollywood actor is a fag
I don't read codexes because I don't own them.
>>"don't watch sloptube" because that shit is slop
I don't watch any so this doesn't affect me.
>>"don't play the game" because 10th sucks
I don't play so not an issue for me, I prefer to just build and paint.
>>"don't play old editions" because Grogs are retards
I'm a newfag and too young to have even tried to play.
>>"don't tweak rules on your own at all" because who the fuck is going to play made up shit with you
I don't play so not an issue for me, I prefer to just build and paint.
>>"don't switch to a different GW game" because AoS/Necromunda/KT/etc is for gay niggers
I don't switch to other things because I like warhammer
>>"don't buy models" because you would be stupid for paying this much
You can say this about 90% of hobbies out there. I like the models so I'll buy them and build.
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>>97641302
Its not good for Marines because everyone just used the basic Gladius task force.
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>>97641302
games statistics are always heavily skewed by the meta
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>>97641300
You're delusional for thinking people don't say the other things literally all the time, and would honestly be hardpressed to actually even deny those statements.
>>97641306
Videogames are way less expensive even after all the AI hikes. Hell, most of the other tabletop games are less expensive. You'd have to get to MTG to see something that costs more than this game.
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Space Marine popularity goes like this and you can't tell me it's otherwise
>Ultramarines (Face of the game for a reason)
>Blood Angels (Red is cool + Space Hulk/Sanguinius raising their popularity + Face of Marines in the 2nd Ed Starter)
>Black Templars (Face of Marines for 3rd Edition + the B/W aesthetic is appealing to most)
>Space Wolves (Furry containment zone)
>Dark Angels (Would be much higher if Black Templars didn't exist)
>Remaining First Founding chapters
>Popular smaller chapters (Crimson Fists, Raptors, Space Sharks, etc)
>Badab War chapters
>The Rest
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>>97641332
>Space Marine popularity goes like this and you can't tell me it's otherwise
>>Ultramarines (Face of the game for a reason)
This will trigger some people, which is funny.
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>>97641332
Grok sees things differently
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>Abominable Intelligence
You've lost the argument.
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>>97641329
Only your strawmen would deny what I've said
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>>97641353
People who use AI are less than human
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>>97641353
>this is his proof for furfags being #2
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>>97641380
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>>97641353
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So what percentage of the Imperium's population live in industrial/hive hellscapes?
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>>97641387
Anime Website
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>>97641387
damn you sure think about trannies a lot don't you
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uh, guys? do you think he's posting with us?
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>>97641393
the absolute vast majority despite hive worlds not being the majority of planets
they are THAT densely populated
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>>97641393
I still wonder how they survive the 20 hour shifts and 1000 calorie per day diet. Imperials are probably a different species than modern man.
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>>97641393
>trying to calculate population figures for the Imperium
The answer is a lot. But, if you want a precise figure, its 70.49614% of the Imperium's total population.
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>>97641266
They're also the second-blackest marine chapter.
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>>97641407
>>97641404
struck a cord did I?
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>>97641380
fuck off O&Tfag
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>>97641426
There are no real figures to support your claim, negroid SW were done purely to satiate the DEI thresholds they are bound to by Blackrock and nothing more.
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>>97641415
20 hour shifts are a meme tbf but 15 hour shifts is pretty close to what irl 19th century factory workers did before labour laws were a thing.
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>>97641353
Trust not the thinking machine!
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It's always weird when authors are talking about astartes at rest and they describe them as wearing both bodysuits and robes. I imagine that's gotta look a little goofy, no? What's wrong with a solid monochrome tank top and militarum style fatigue pants? Or is that too relaxed for the grim darkness of the 41st millennium?
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>>97641410
>what if he's the...
no way
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I'm torn between just collecting cool models and focusing on the model building, painting, making a diorama etc, versus having an actual army on the rare chance I get to play with someone
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>>97641464
quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said
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>>97641464
think about it
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>>97641443
I'm sorry bud, your chapter is a containment for dindunuffins. You're going to have to deal with it
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>>97641443
I do actually have supporting figures. Out of a sample size of 41 marines (every SW-exclusive, non-character kit listed on GW's site) 8 of them were unhelmeted and black.
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>>97641415
imperials definitely are a very different breed compared to modern humans, 10k years of oppressive regime would already have its impact, but that has also happened after 20k years of genetic drift and adaptation to exoplanets that might have also been enhanced via purposeful genetic engineering

even today we've identified people who can sleep half as much with no discernible downside, that could have probably been isolated and added to colonists

but still, I'd guess a lot of the numbers shouldn't be taken that literally or to their most extreme extent, there's a difference for example between a 20 hours shift of nonstop work and staying 20 hours away from your hab-block for a living, between the 20 hours of the latter there might be alloted timeframes for rests, the absolute minimum and certainly uncomfortable to a near unbearable degree, but possibly survivable
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>>97641470
>severe autism
>commissioned paintjobs
>closet nazi
>grok for proof
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>>97641475
>>97641480
Grok supports my claim, after Salamanders they don't make the top 4.
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>>97641448
The 20 hour shifts are brought up in RT. Reducing the hours to a more reasonable 10 per day freaked out the citizens and eventually led to them revolting as they took at as a sign of weakness in the leadership. Imperials think cruelty is strength, empathy is weakness, and weakness is heresy. Anybody who comes along and tries to make things better will be killed by the people above him and the people he's trying to uplift below him. That is why nothing can ever get better for the Imperium.
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robo...
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Does Nurgle have daemon princes? I know he has great unclean ones but do they have traditional ones like picrel?
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Why are Nurglefags such redditors?
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What paint, from any range, would be the best match for this color? It's found on the new RC decal sheet
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>>97641452
>no?
no
They're monastic orders
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>>97641490
none of that is true outside of the usage of grok, but nice try
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>>97641415
>>97641393
I love Quake. I always imagined the campaign is a good facsimile of what attacking an Imperial world would be like, with all the horror and fanaticism from the inhabitants.
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>>97641500
sure do
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>>97641470
Nah, I vote "painter's block because collage anon banned me"
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>>97641500
Yes, why would you think they don't have those?
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>>97641500
Gr8 b8 m8 now I'm finna master m8
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>>97641512
The baddies even share similar iconography, like the winged skull and double-headed eagles.
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>>97641518
>archivefaggotry
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>>97641492
>Grok sup-
>he can't even put any effort into his own refutation
>he instead asks an AI to speculate on his behalf
If you're going to cope this viciously about being this black, you could at least put some effort into the cope.
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>>97641526
>proofs
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>>97641512
You're a glib facsimile
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>>97641513
>>97641519
thanks! i normally only see great unclean ones in deathguard art so wasnt sure if they did or not

Ive really enjoyed painting nurglings alongside my deathguard so looking to expand that in the future to other daemons.
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>>97641509
Then why not just wear the robes? I guess it's just the bodysuit that trips me up. Probably because I don't like tight clothing and the idea of wearing one of those things 24/7 makes my skin crawl. I'm part of the Adeptus Autismus.
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>>97641500
>Does Nurgle have daemon princes?
My Nurgle Bois do :)
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>>97641518
>archivefag
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>>97641508
XV-88 maybe? I'm sure one of the ochre colours would be a good matchm.
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>>97641540
here you go
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>>97641544
>I'm part of the Adeptus Autismus.
That explains a lot.
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>>97641527
i'll allow the numbers to speak for themselves
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>>97641562
wtf how did you get this picture of me
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>>97641562
Is this achievable natty?
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>>97641540
demon princes have always been weirdly treated by gw compared to mortal champions and greater demons, but death guard in particular also used to have a specific model for their own
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>>97641552
im guessing thats the old daemon prince model? looks cute lol
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>>97641576
Uncle Ruckus?
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>>97641571
The only numbers given have been "8 in 41."
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>>97641562
>>97641576
goofy ass face KEK
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>>97641544
>Then why not just wear the robes?
dunno, more combat readiness? easier to administer stimulants and keep wounds shut? force of habit?
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>>97641578
Yep! I've got 5 of the Old DP kits since it's one of my favourite models ever made. I want to 1 for each god and the 5th will be used to make my Be'lakor I want for my 1st and 2nd (Pre-Broken Realms) AoS games :)
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97641470
>>97641518
For me it's the goteslopper claiming his unremoved mouldlines were imperfections caused by the camera
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>Play game at FLGS a bit further away from the normal FLGS I go to for the first time
>Give the other guy take backs whenever he wants, mention ways for him to score more primary and secondary
>He doesn't give me a take back when I ask
Nice. In general, how do you avoid these sorts of people ahead of time? How do you spot them without playing against them first?
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>>97641594
>For me it's the goteslopper claiming his unremoved mouldlines were imperfections caused by the camera
Glory days.
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>>97641393
Around 50% of the world’s population lives in cities, and it seems that much of the Imperium has planets with either borderline kowloon tier population density or pre-industrial population meant for a specific purpose (vacation, farming, worship, ect.) with few in between those extremes, so unironically it might be upwards of 80-90%
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>>97641594
Sometimes I also need this denial
>do thorough cleaning
>hold bit under lamp at slightly different angle
>still a thicc ass moldline there
>prime model
>find another one
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>>97641595
are they fat? avoid them
are they gay? avoid them

done
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>>97641393
Most of them. They're based off of the Skaven from Fantasy Battle, and most of them lived in heavily polluted and overpopulated hives.
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>>97641608
This guy was a skinny guy married to a woman, unfortunately that criteria wouldn't have helped me
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>>97641427
how about you struck a cord with a brush and finally paint some miniatures, hobbylet
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>>97641594
I can't understand why people keep pulling out retarded copes over stuff like this instead of the honest, mundane truths.
>oh yeah, I forgot to highlight all the leather bits
>I didn't realize that moldline was there
>I don't have any game pics because I haven't played since 9th
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What chapter do I paint for 11th edition. I like jump packs, speed and flexibility.

No first founding chapters allowed
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>>97641625
anger issues. they don’t like the idea that the models they spent so much time on have glaring problems, so they get too mad to accept and acknowledge them.
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>>97641589
pick them up cheap? or bought them when they were current? the top one looks rad, the bottom one reminds me of spyro kek.
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>>97641639
nigger masters
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>>97641642
Post models
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>>97641639
knights of the raven
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>>97641644
I got 3 of them when they were still around and the other 2 cheap enough due to missing some parts I wasn't in need of. I was quite luck tbhon, in terms of most modelling projects it turned out super cheap.
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I've never played 40k before but I've watched the odd battle on YouTube. Genuine question as I'm considering getting the Red Corsair box or wait for Tau kroot box to be up for preorder... Is this game fun? Mechanics wise, how turns play out, etc? I've moved away where meeting with my friends to play MESBG with isn't an option anymore and there's now a GW and 2 LGS' within very close proximity to me and naturally, 40k is the game of choice in all of these spots. It must be a fun game then surely?
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>>97641639
Hawk Lords
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>>97641647
Finish your hellblasters.
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>>97641639
knights of blood
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>>97641625
I don't think he would've gotten any shit for some mouldlines if he wasn't ragging on some other anon for not cleaning his right before.
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>>97641639
Crimson Sabres.
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>>97641647
I’m actually really happy you asked because I just finished painting these boys. I was procrastinating on them all week sadly, but I was able to finish them up today, and I really like how they turned out! be sure to bring up any glaring problems you see.
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Are Chaos Knights a "real" army I can field?
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>>97641673
yea
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>>97641639
Raptors, Mantis Warriors, Lamenters.
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>>97641639
Scions of Muteba
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>>97641663
Of course he would
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>>97641672
here’s their backpacks as well.
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>>97641639
Sons of Medusa.
Dey is kino.
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>>97641672
>>97641684
They look great orkbro
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>>97641672
>>97641684
well done, ork anon
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>>97641496
That was a prison station on an asteroid. They weren't "citizens".
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>>97641496
>RT
the rpg or the actual rogue trader from 1987?
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>>97641680
>that mold line
top kek
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>>97641684
>>97641672
Damn good looking anon
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>>97641625
remember where you are, anon
>>97641704
there's also one with a barrel drilled off center
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Would I like 40k if I thought Kill Team was alright but too fiddly?
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>>97641619
>skinny
then your gaydar was faulty
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>>97641189
>tfw just discovered fuckin DORLING KINDERSLEY has a Warhammer 40K beginner's guide
Didn't DK use to publish encyclopedias for kids back in the day?
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>>97641722
NTA but I thought the point of gaydar was that gay people have it and recognize other gay people.
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The hipster in me wants to play Xenos entirely because they're unpopular
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>>97641727
times change
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>>97641730
You should play what's popular in your heart.
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>>97641737
Woah...
Right now I'm torn between Nids and World Eaters, WE look cool as fuck and I already have some ideas of what to paint, but I don't want to be yet another marines player
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>>97641727
I got it, its extremely meh. It's more of an overview of 10e tabletop models than an actual lore guide. Which sucks because the encyclopedia format would be great for explaining something like the High Lords or the history of the Imperium.
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I thought I could easily get a free Apothecary by taking bits from the Ravenwing kit and putting them on a spare body. But look at this fucking baby arm bastard.

I guess the only option is cut the narthecium off and stick it on a different arm?
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>>97641189
sex
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Based and finishedpilled
I hope you all managed to do something fun this weekend hobbywise.
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>>97641766
Yes. Almost finished the last power armored minis I'll probably paint. Al thats left is the helmet highlights, battle damages, then basing. After that I'm off to do the last 6 termi minis.
Then that's 2000 pts of BT done.
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>>97641684
>green leather
are they making leather out of other orks?
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I developed a bad habit of not cleaning any mold lines until after completely building the model, making it way more annoying to clean up after the fact, and sometimes I just don't even bother. What modeling sins have you committed, Anons?
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>>97641791
I prime the sprue
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i hate fat nurgle daemons and plague marines. the desiccated hallowed gut is superior
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>>97641791
I stopped caring about good faces on anything other than squad leaders and hqs
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>>97641791
i remember teasing an anon about doing this very thing, but he insisted it was "easier"
now what? full of mold lines
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>>97641779
These are looking great anon, nice!
Are you going to post a full army shot once it's done?
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I don't think there's ever been another character that has outmatched Big E, in terms of psykic might.
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>tier chart
>"psyonic"
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>>97641819
>powerlevel wank
kill yourself
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>>97641780
they enslave, murder, and cannibalize, but you’re hung up over them using other orks as leather?
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>>97641856
Stfu lorelet.
This Psykic scale is mainly same that the Imperium uses in the fluff.
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>>97641800
for people that paint on the sprue:
what do you do after clipping the piece out of the sprue? do you then scrape off the paint from the surfaces that are supposed to be glued together? do you have to come back and paint over the spots under the sprue connectors?
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I come bearing hard data using the following criteria:
>Only looking at models with visible faces (No helmets)
>Only looking at what's currently on the US GW Webstore
>Only looking at Chapters with full model ranges (Imperial Fists/Raven Guard/etc don't count since they're only a few characters each)

>Generic Space Marine units
White - 10 Reivers, 10 Incursors (One example also shows a Salamanders version but that's not the kind of Black we're talking about), 7 Scouts, 4 Intercessors, 4 Hellblasters, 3 Eradicators, 3 Bladeguard Vets, 3 Assault Intercessors, 2 Eliminators, 2 Centurion Assault, 2 Jumppack Assault Intercessors, 1 Infernus, 1 Suppressor, 1 Sternguard Vet, 1 Company Heroes, 1 Terminator, 1 Desolator, 1 Outrider,1 Aggressor, 1 Heavy Intercessor, 1 Tactical, 1 Infiltrator, 1 vanguard Vet, 1 Assault Term., Jumppack Captain, Term. Captain, Term. Chaplain, Relic Shield Captain, Combi-Lieutenant in Phobos Armor, Chaplain (HoTC), Lieutenant, Term. Librarian, Gravis Captain, Ancient, Techmarine, Captain, Primaris Librarian, Reiver Lieutenant, Phobos Librarian, Phobos Captain, Apothecary, Terminator Ancient (83 Total)
Black - 3 Scouts, 2 Assault Intercessors, 2 Assault Term., 1 Eradicator (HoTC), 1 Eliminator, 1 Centurion Assault, 1 Terminator, 1 Jumppack Assault Intercessor, 1 Sternguard Vet. (13 Total)
~6/1 Ratio

>Ultramarines
W - Guilliman, Titus (I'm not counting the non-Space Marines from his box), Calgar, Cato, Tigurius, 1 Victrix Honour Guard (6)
B - Metaurus (1)
Asian - Gadriel (1)
6/1/1 Ratio

>Blood Angels
W - Mephiston, BA Librarian, Sanguinary Priest, Astorath, BA Captain, 3 Assault Intercessors (Combat Patrol) (8 Total)
100% White

>Dark Angels
W - Lion'El, Belial, Sammael, 2 Deathwing Terminators, Azrael, Lazarus, Interrogator Chaplain, 3 Inner Circle Companions, Ezekiel (12)
B - 2 Deathwing Terminators (2)
6/1 Ratio
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>>97641819
Is Mephiston B tier?
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>>97641867
no, I was just wondering what the story was behind the green leather. I actually thought it would be a cool background to his models.
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>>97641813
it most certainly is not easier, it just makes it harder to get the knife at a good angle to scrap it off. I would know, as a lazy bastard myself.
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>>97641874
>Space Wolves
W - 5 Wulven, 4 Blood Claws, 4 Wolfguard Term., 4 Grey Hunters, 4 Wolf Scouts, 3 Thunderwolf Cavlalry, 2 Headtakers, Ragnar, Ulrik, Arjac, Njal, Wolfpriest, Battle Leader, (32)
B - 4 Blood Claws, 1 Wolfguard Term., 1 Headtaker, 2 Grey Hunters, 1 Wolf scout (9)
~3.5/1 Ratio

>Black Templars
W - Helbrecht, 4 Crusaders, Marshal, 1 Sword Brethren, (7)
B - 1 Sword Brethren, 1 Crusader (2)
3.5/1 Ratio

>Grey Knights
W - Castellan Crowe, 1 Purifier, 1 Purgation, 2 Interceptor, 1 Paladin, Voldus, Nemesis Dreadknight (8)
100% White

>Deathwatch
W - Artemis, Watchmaster, 5 Deathwatch (7)
B - 1 Deathwatch
A - 1 Deathwatch
7/1/1 ratio

Mathematically speaking, the blackest chapters are Space Wolves and Black Templars, though Space Wolves are more favored due to having more units showing visible skin while Black Templars have far more characters that only come with helmeted options.
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>>97641874
>>97641892
Your agenda is transparent and your numbers are skewed. Begone filth.
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>>97641892
WG Termies have one ching chong
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>>97641900
Elaborate or begone
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>>97641875
Holy slop
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>>97641779
That's clean as fuck anon. Flame decals are extremely underrated, too.
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>>97641919
but enough about your models.
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>>97641900
Mope all you want, but it's an undeniable fact that of all the major Marine chapters Space Wolves have the most units painted with black skin. To quote you from earlier, "I'll allow the numbers to speak for themselves".
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>>97641885
i didn't believe him.
i dislike drilling barrels when they're already glued, so getting rid of mold lines piece by piece makes sense to me.
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Isn't the "need keeps" part of the votann model a little contradictory to their economic system? Seems kinda commie to me tbqh
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>>97641846
>tier chart
The Imperium already divides Psykers by Tiers, so why not make a chart out of it.
>>"psyonic"
I suppose "psionic" would have been better. my mistake.

>>97641875
>Is Mephiston B tier?
I think he's either a high-B or a low-A. Same category a Tigurius imo.
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>"psionic"
even dumber
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>>97641875
>all that dust
couldn't you have at least cleaned him up a bit before taking a picture holy shit
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>>97641819
What would Stern be at?
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>>97641908
>>97641908
i formally request a recount on the "whiteness" of top left of:
>99120101441_SpaceWolvesWolfGuardTerminators2.jpg
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>>97641780
>>97641882
I originally wanted them to be simple canvas bags, but midway through I thought they looked a bit bland being one color, so I made the pouches leather to spice it up. But now that you bring it up it is kind of weird, so now I’m stealing your idea that the backpack is entirely leather. makes sense for deathskulls to take everything (including your skin) anyway.
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>odds
i work on my collage submission
>evens
i build gunpla
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>>97641978
Oof that's a Chinaman
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>>97641960
It's a term used by the fluff.
>>97641973
For the amount of shit that she pulled off, such as thrashing Grey Knights and even overpowering a Culexus Assassin, I'd easily place her on the "Alpha+" tier.
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>>97641960
Psykanak, clearly
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>>97641942
they only do that their own kind, everyone else is up for grabs.
>Rule of Acquisition #17: A contract is a contract is a contract… but only between Votann
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>>97641999
asian erasure using statistics is genocide in itself, if you think about it
i stan a chinaman being a furry too
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>Monday model reveals
What are we expecting, fellas?
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>>97641874
>>97641892
Based. Given the Asian guy in >>97641908 that makes Space Wolves the least white space marine chapter.
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>>97641766
yep ! got quite a few modesl built this weekend and currently working on 10 sternguard vets ! (In before someone shits on me for posting gray models)
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>Have faction with tiny, anemic model range
>Players cry every single day about not having enough data sheets
>Literal free, thematically appropriate unit sitting right there on the shelf in the form of a dual-build kit whose other build option is already used in one of this specific faction's thematic counter parts.
>Choose not to use it because lol lmao
Are GW simply retarded?
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>>97642017
Wouldn't that be white scars by default?
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>>97642022
That's for age of sigmar
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>>97642029
So is the MVB
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>>97642022
GW has some weird desire to segregate their games and models despite all the overlap between them. and it makes no fucking sense
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>>97642028
model range
minor codex compliant chapters don't have their own model ranges
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>>97642034
Yeah, but they already are not consistent about it with chaos demons and thousand sons in particular. Not to mention how custodes still get a pass on Horus Heresy models when no one else does
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>>97642040
Fair
You counted Deathwatch for some reason though
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>>97642033
Oh shoot you're right. I'll tell the codex writers to remove it for 11th, thanks for the reminder.
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>>97641992
fucking traitor
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>>97642044
i didn't count anything, learn to read the original posts you're questioning
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>>97642042
with the latest 30k Custodes box set they've been really cagey about if the models are going to be legal in 40k. so I think there's a possibility that in 11th ed there's going to be even less units that can be used in multiple games.
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>>97642029
>age of sigmar
it was made in fantasy though?
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>Have faction with tiny, anemic model range
>Players cry every single day about not having enough data sheets
>Literal free, thematically appropriate units sitting right there on the shelf in the form of several brand new kits whose keywords are already used in one of this specific faction's thematic counter parts.
>Choose not to give them a detachment or keyword to make them work at all with it because lol lmao
Are GW simply retarded?
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>>97642048
Can't. It's in Space Marine 2 now. That makes it higher canon than the Codex.
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>>97642018
Nice, I'm looking forward to seeing vahl, she's a great model.
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>>97641747
Don't think about what's popular, think about what you like. You don't want to start sinking hundreds of dollars into models you dislike.
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>>97641256
The Dark Angels complied with Guilliman's order for the legions to break into 1000 man chapters, but in reality those chapters still function together like a legion.

The Space Wolves didn't have enough survivors of the Horus Heresy to even split into chapters, and their one attempt prior to Primaris marines failed horribly.
The Wolves never recovered to any appreciable size due to their gene seed degrading even further and limiting themselves to Fenris, unlike the Black Templars who gave zero shits and kept recruiting like it was M31.

So that meme for Space Wolves would be the Space Wolves talking to themselves.
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>>97641492
Salamanders aren't negroes, their skin turns ash to protect them from radiation, all space marines can do that, their gene flaw just has that turned on all the time, it doesn't mean they're of ancient african descent.
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>>97642022
>>97642029
Fun fact, the slaughterbrute isn't even part of the khorne range in AoS, nor is the vortex beast part of the tzeentch faction. They're both part of the generic chaos warrior guys.
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>>97642104
I remember the Salamander in that one WH+ animation having Asian facial features, as opposed to African ones.
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>>97642104
>>97642115
ni hao, fellow n'was
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>>97642096
So out of the core chapters which ones have the fewest Marines left?
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>>97642123
So if we shift blackness over to a model of phrenology, that makes Space Wolves tied with Black Templars as the blackest chapter in 40k.
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>>97642139
>phrenology
cope and seethe, furfag
SWs are the most diverse
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>>97642131
The ones that couldn't successfully make any 2nd founding chapters, so Salamanders and Space Wolves.
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Raven Guard are the blackest chapter i mean just look at their armour
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Why don't GW make hispanic marines?
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>>97642170
They did, they're called Crimson Fists.
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>>97642172
But they don't have modeled/painted hispanic heads.
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>>97642177
just paint them slightly brown and give them a five o’ clock shadow.
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I think I've well and truly settled on this scheme. It looks good both clean and dirty. I kind of want to change the bolter color to something that's not red, though.
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>>97642164
Still less black than Iron Hands
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>>97641452
Mine wear normal human clothes when off duty, they even have tailors on their ships. After all, who would turn down making some sick drip for a demigod?
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Has anyone seen the new narrative stuff in the Huron books? Any good?
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>>97642208
That blood looks sick
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>>97642249
What are they supposed to contain besides the Character Creator rules? Does it have a world conquest campaign scenario like 500 worlds did too?
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>>97642253
Yeah it's meant to have a new narrative campaign for raiding and piracy included but I haven't got the book yet
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>>97641766
Nice ladies
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>>97641672
>>97641684
Good looking mandos
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How would you go about naming an Astra Militarum list for Crusade? Space Marines are generally easy as it can usually be [Chapter Name] [xth Company] [Warlord Name] [Detachment] but for the Imperial Guard, you can't really have a full regiment in 1000-2000 points unless you're from Tanith
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>>97642264
Good to see you Blorkbro
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>>97642264
I like how you made the electricity orange so there wasn’t too much blue on the model.
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>>97642294
Battalion maybe?
Something like 4th Battalion, 503rd Mordian
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>>97642325
I made him the opposite of the first one I painted
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>>97641200
Don't post this here again. This is a blue board and this is off topic.
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>>97642294
you may not have an entire regiment but not all regiments are at full strength. Casualties coupled with a remote location or limited recruitment pool may mean that some regiments are small af
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>>97642331
which one likes gork more than mork, and which one likes mork more than gork?
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>>97642331
You cheeky fuck. Do they like each other or are they enemies?
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>>97642354
lmao what a fag
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How can I properly do a blood is swirling down the weapon effect? I tried it, but it looks like I just shittily painted a part red because that's what actually happened
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>>97642412
post pic
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>>97642422
pls do NOT bully me, I've only been into this hobby for 2 weeks
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>>97642364
The blue one likes gork on some days but mork on others, and the yellow one is the other way around
>>97642372
Snotlings are a limited resource that they fight over
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>>97642294
Name of the Company in the Regiment you are playing or something like "Battlegroup [Name]".
1st Company or F Company for two Company examples. The Battlegroup might just have a letter or number too or be named after the commanding Officer instead.
Also instead of Battlegroup you could use names like Task Force, Combat Command, Kampfgruppe, Forward Detachment, or anything else you can steal from history.
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Besides noctilith (apparently I'm the only one that remembers), adamantium, and wraithbone & soulstone, what other minerals of note are there? Especially psychically reactive.
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>>97642294
GW is super inconsistent with this, so you could just say "Task Force" or "Operation Force" or "Element" if you want to cover that it has forces pulled from across the Regiment (for example if you are Cadian you want tanks from a tank company and infantry pulled maybe from multiple companies) or the catch all "Regiment" and "Company" if you want to front and center that grouping and its just common sense that those forces would have attached elements like tanks and support staff.
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>>97642294
>pick cool combination of words
>google translate into latin
>recolour a space marine
>sell it as a totally new chapter
GW hire me
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>>97642457
Blackstone is the current most important mcguffin one, very important to both the admech and necrons and lets you make warpspace walls that prevent demons from crossing over. So I think you already have it covered. I see the term "plasteel" being use a lot too in an Imperium context.
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Every possible weapon loadout a unit can have needs to be split off into its own datasheet.
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>>97642294
>>97642447
Also some TO&E list Imperial Guard Regiments as having Brigades within their Regiments to group their Companies together so you could use Brigade instead. I think Brigades only appears in some Imperial Armour volumes, whenever Codexes or campaign books listed a Regimental TO&E the organization always goes Platoon -> Company -> Regiment.
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>Imperium - Adeptus Custodes - Lions of the Emperor (1000pts)

>Blade Champion (120pts): Warlord
>Shield-Captain in Allarus Terminator Armour (130pts): Guardian Spear

>5x Custodian Guard (190pts)

>2x Allarus Custodians (110pts)
>5x Custodian Wardens (260pts)
>5x Prosecutors (50pts)
>4x Witchseekers (45pts)

>Inquisitor Draxus (95pts)

This okay? I could squeeze in a Rhino for scouting with Witchseekers if I went MSU on everything (and still no enhancements) at the cost of weakening the other squads. If not, was thinking of dropping one woman for Admonimortis; sometimes the Prosecutors go by pretty peacefully, other times they get quite a bit of attention.
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>>97642466
Yeah plasteel, rockrete, ceramite and fio'tak are important structural materials, but the others are like natural resources that can be found, right? Even if wraithbone can also be sung into being, I heard it's also out there.
It's just that I was thinking what resources can there be to be fought for? Fissile materials (uranium), fusionable materials (Hydrogen), consumables (Oxygen, Carbon).

I think of Pirate eldar, Tau outcasts, Explorator magi, but they all end up becoming mineral quests.
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>>97642463
thats how you get Ferrus Manus, leader of the Iron Fist chapter, ruling from their battle barge Fist of Iron.
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Which DE models/units do you think are getting updated in 11th? Which ones do you think are never coming back?
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>>97642294
Assuming it's a combined arms force something like: Kampfgruppe [Commander], Task Force [# or Location], Battle Group [Location], or Tactical Group [#].
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>>97642412
Easiest thing would be to just use a blood effect paint.
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>>97642532
holy KINO, how did you do that?
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>>97642500
strangely most of the fiction is written like everyone lives in a post scarcity society. the imperium is just that badly managed.
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>>97642431
no bully intended but I don't even know where to start. paint the staff some other color first maybe, what were you going for in the first place?
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>>97642535
Blood effect paint.
It is a bit of a bastard to work with, because blood paint (or at least the army painter stuff) does not like leaving the brush, so it's hard to flick blood spatters onto the model.
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>>97642294
The old 7th Ed Cadian supplement had Combined Arms Cadian Battle Groups made up of Companies from multiple different Regiments. "Battle Group Thunder".
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>>97642538
Part of the problem was that I was changing my mind while I was painting and had no real direction, for the staff specifically I wanted it like blood coming down the whole thing, as if he stabbed someone at the top
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What's with this weird shadowboxing of "le heckin nazis in my wholesome 40k:?
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@97642564
what are you referring to
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@grok is this true
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>>97642447
>>97642482
actually really helpful thanks, I already have a Grizzled Company called Taskforce Blackfin because I'm basing them heavily off of Taskforce 141 but those suggestions you have are super that Im definitely keeping in my back pocket
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So are you supposed to know the rules for your army and any potential opponents army? There's zero chance I'm trusting the "dude trust me they can do that" bullshit
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>>97642583
https://wahapedia.ru/
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>>97642431
>just started hobby
>grabs one of the weirdest, most fuck ass kits necrons have in their lineup
>paints the big guy first
>tries experimenting with effects on said big guy
DAMN, absolutely no bullying, but I think you need to set him down and try painting some basic necron warriors to get good at it, and then fuck around with blood effects on them, and then when you can effectively do that you can move onto the big guy. For painting blood, I will say that GW does sell “Blood for the Blood God” paint under “technical” that does blood effects really well.
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>>97642586
>trust this drunk russian dude he's totally right
UH
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>>97642590
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>>97642583
>are you supposed to know the rules for your army
abso-fucking-lutely, playing against an opponent that has to always go back to check their codex because they can't remeber is a terrible experience
>and any potential opponents army
it's good to have know how their army generally works, but if you run into something that seems busted or very convinent for the situation it never bad to just say "wow that's nuts, can you show me how it works" to check that your opponent is playing it correctly/it actually exists.
Generally people don't try and cheat, but sometimes peoples understanding of the game can affect how they think certain units work.
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>>97642546
more blood at the top and less at the bottom then
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>>97642583
dont rely on intuiting the rules for your first game
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>thread without 500 posts of "decalfag"
Woah...
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>>97642063
Use Craftworlds, or Dark Eldar rules for them. They all have 1 for 1 proxies with guardians/kabalites, swooping hawks/scourges.
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>>97642630
1: We got that out of the way at the end of last thread/start of this one.
2: Don't bring him up if you don't want his shit in here.
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>>97642583
This is a Magic player. They're all pieces of shit so it tracks that he thinks everyone who plays any game is a piece of shit.
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>>97642652
All magic players are pieces of shit, but I have the decency and honesty to admit I am indeed a piece of shit and will never let my opponent have fun
Yes I do play blue
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>>97641353
>Grok sees things differently
Nigga I do not care
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>>97642576
Another resource to consider stealing from is this wiki list of Ad-hoc military formations articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ad_hoc_units_and_formations
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>>97642652
Magic Derangement Syndrome
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>>97642630
Yea I would appreciate it if posts like these did not get made, it seriously hinders my ability to rehabilitate my reputation.
>>97642657
So then don't respond, its that simple chief.
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>>97642536
You do need bad management to explain poverty in a setting where the resources of a million worlds are available.
There may not be free lunchest, but a single star is 500,000,000 years of surplus lunches, and this is a setting where you can cross the billion miles of empty space between stars.
There's literally no need for conflict because there's enough resources and space for everyone, forever.
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>>97641353
>Grok
This will trigger some people, which is funny.
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>>97642640
pretty sure this is a situation where he makes a post to samefag off himself because there’s no “in” otherwise
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>>97641353
>listening to Grok over Gork
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>>97642677
What a very schizo thing to say
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Have you noticed with these women in stores things in the hobbies, they're either the center of attention and are harassed, or totally epic badasses that totally own the entrenched male nerds?
Curious indeed
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>>97642668
Well that's just ridiculous, you need to know how much I care about not caring.
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>>97642686
are you referring to something in particular
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>>97642687
The Charlie XCX strategem
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>>97642686
Women love being the center of attention because duh...women, men understand how dangerous being the center of attention can be, males are always trying to one up each other because duh...males.
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>>97642686
i have a crush on my local chick... ;-;...
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>>97642692
just ask her out brah nothing bad will happen I promise
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>>97642692
Yea what the other anon says, if she says no then just tell her that's not an option and to try again. Make sure you make a hissing noise right after.
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Tell her you have a 1:1 scale Great Unclean One model at your house, it will work, trust me
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>>97642692
Her boyfriend's probably an imperial knights player, dont bother..
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>>97642692
Ask her how big her penis is
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>>97642713
Checking in...
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>>97642727
You haven't felt the touch of a woman not in your family in your entire life
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I am going to field 170 termagaunts as my 1k army
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>>97642678
>trusting gork over mork>>97642686
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>>97642727
>Woah you painted all of these anon?? You're really talented! :)
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>>97642734
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>>97642740
>mork
based and electric undergroundpilled
What faction has pure nitauku skill based arcade gameplay with high density and no rpg mechanics?
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>>97642734
no, I regularly ravish your mother.
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>>97642727
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>even my horribly painted awful model gets less hate than decalfag
Feels good
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>>97642753
It's personal and political with me, they cannot separate the art from the artisan.
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>>97642753
If you’re >>97642431 then that’s because its one of your first models, and its expected you’ll have growing pains. This dude has painted 4 different armies (necrons, space wolves, ultramarines, knights) and he’s still shit at it.
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Yo can I field HH marines as CSM in an official capacity?

Obviously casual games they're fine, but I was wondering if I would be barred from most tourneys.
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>>97642763
>HH
We are NOT fueled by hate you fucking n*zi
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>what faction would you like to play?
>we have skeleton robots, crazed alien bugs, giant demons, anything you like really
Hmmmm, yes I think I'll choose "average human"
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>>97642546
What I like to do is take a picture of my assembled model, then open up a free art program like MSPaint or Firealpaca, paste the screenshot, then plan out your scheme.

It helps if you have different ideas of where you want to take a model.
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>>97642762
He also hasn't painted in half a year despite being terminally addicted to /40kg/.
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>>97642734
how many wargamers have you actually met that dont have wives, jobs, and children?
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>>97642791
Only one that I know that is 0/3 is Decalslopper, even the more romantically challenged of people I play with at least have a job. Decalslopper from what we know just leeches off of his parents.
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Are there any sources for the Red Scorpions besides the Imperial Armour books? I'm starting a red scorpions 2nd ed KT list and I'd appreciate it if there was some other place to draw from.
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>>97642788
to be fair that’s probably because he left this place half a year ago and there’s some dude pretending to be him.
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>>97642802
Nope.
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>>97642817
Nope, he's posted several timestamps
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>>97642778
Who are you quoting?
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>>97642788
Yea but i outmodel you 20 to 1 bitch
>>97642801
Kys you pathetic scum, you don't know a single thing about me.
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>>97642778
>Hmmmm, yes I think I'll choose "average human"
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>>97642431
Just have a crack
Get some blood for the blood gods, dab it on roughly, thin it with a drop of water, flick it off using a toothpick. Just remember less is more, and most importantly watch a tutorial
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Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
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>>97642829
redditor
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>>97642829
reditor
although I don't know if you're more or less reddit than nurgle and eldarifags
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>>97642819
every time stamp i've seen have been shitting photoshops over alread his spammed images, or some weirded ai added shit, probably from grok.
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>redditor
>reditor
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>>97642819
Those were clearly AI generated because they weren’t written by any kind of pen or pencil.
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>>97642842
They hit the nail on the head huh
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>>97642778
Listen, I love the idea of some ancient Astartes Dreadnaught getting killed by Guardsman Brown who just a few months ago was a substitute history teacher
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>>97642839
Its weird how many pictures you seek from me
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>>97642826
> mid 30s
> skinnyfat white dude
> single and desperate for female attention
> high tendency to bring up trannies (some sort of projection? chaser maybe)
> Socially isolated (No one would make 10+ reddit accounts if they had a solid social group and wasn't looking for validation)
>American(?) that prides himself on slav-mutt heritage

That's all I got
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Painted my first vostroyan in over a year, I think they are cool dolls
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>>97642850
and I don't know a single things about you, now which one of us is the stalker creep show? I rest my fucking case you sack of filth.
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>>97642854
How hard are Admechs to paint?
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>>97642854
Hey man this is pretty sensational, well done! What are your plans for basing?
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I THINK GENESTEALER CULT SUCKS
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>>97642854
It's too bad they never got these guys to look good, they were a cool concept
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Why didn't you fags tell me about Legion Imperials 30k? Those models are amazing
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>>97642849
I just wish you went and seeked another site.
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>>97642879
BECAUSE WE ARE 40K
NIGGUH!!!!
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>>97642874
They probably suck and fuck, all the better to make the next generation
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>>97642864
concrete rubble as vostroyans are masters of urban combat for some reason

>>97642863
idk ask some anon without taste
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>>97642879
head over to /hhg/ they also talk about ligma there.
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>>97642882
Imagine if you just ignored me instead, how sweet a paradise this place would be anon.
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>No dataslate leaks
>No other leaks
>Not even a mini of the month leak
It's over
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>>97642889
whats ligma?
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>>97642727
That's a pretty incredible selection of models anon, well done.
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>>97642893
LIgma balls
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>>97642727
It's always inspiring seeing people with physical and mental disabilities trying to paint
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>see a few really cool units in a faction
>makes me want to play it
>rest of the units are just boring
>want to play something else
How do I make a goddamn choice here
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>>97642896
ty King
>>97642901
>t.nomodels
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Do you guys find it easier to paint individuals than whole units?
Im finding i'll have an idea for one model and see it through to the end over a weekend, but then if i gotta do 10 it instantly becomes work and im dragging it out over a month

i got 5 sanguinary guard to go right now and i just can't be bothered
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>>97642904
Purchase the models
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>>97642912
Since when do Sanguinary Guards have wings?
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>>97642912
I find it far, far more pleasant to paint guys that I can sink more effort into.
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>>97642916
since i added them cause it makes them look 1000x better
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>>97642838
Trying to hard
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So a Great Unclean One isn't actually Nurgle?
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>>97642904
I'd check to see specifically if the basic battlelines, one or two of their HQs, and maybe an elite unit or vehicle are aesthetically appealing to you. For example:
>boyz
>mekboy
>shokkjump dragsta and all the other ork cars
Also if their general playstyle is appealing that's important. I'll probably never get orks because hordes don't interest me much.
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>>97642778
'ate Primaris
'ate Chaos
'ate Daemons and Xenos
Luv me Tanks
Luv me Artillery
Luv me Emprah
Simple as
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>>97642953
sis your media literacy?
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>>97642956
>Reddit
Don't even need to read the rest to know that's not worth my time.
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>>97642964
fuck off you unhinged freak
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>>97642956
yes, and?
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>>97642850
you should have included doesnt have a job, I think being autistic and unable to live independently is an important part of his story. I genuinely think hes so autistic he has special needs handlers that help him with the day to day.
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>>97642967
calm down frendo
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>>97642967
uh oh leddit melty
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>>97642778
HUMAN FIGHTER HUMAN FIGHTER
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>>97642975
>>>/reddit/
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>>97642972
I don't have any of what you just mentioned but honestly why are you even talking about my personal life? Don't you hate namefag drama? Or are you a false disingenuous cretin that lives to torment prestigious modelers because you yourself are a modeless scumlord?
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>>97642978
What are you talking about? It's literally a thread pic
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>>97642778
Does the Rogal Dorn Tank have any lore yet?
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After Big Stick the next Collage theme should be making custom characters that use the Crucible Character Creator rules.
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>>97642956
>Blah blah blah, Krieg is based
World war one has some of the coolest aesthetics. Add whatever-punk to it and you're set.
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>>97642979
as a namefag lolcow, like chris chan or dark side phil, I do in fact take in interest in the circumstances that produced such a remarkable and unique specimen such as yourself. I've gone beyond anger or annoyance, you are simply a pathetic fixture that continues to surprise at the levels of pathetic retardation you will stoop too.
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>>97642983
There's an escape hatch below the hull
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>>97642985
This is actually a great suggestion.
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>>97642991
So that's where the lore went. Damn it, James!
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>>97642988
Anyone with even a small modicum of intelligence would see your response and recommend you to the nearest psych ward you pathetic wretch.
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>>97643005
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>love the decay and gross body horror of death guard
>also want to paint insanely gorey horrible death scenes using world easters
what do, is there a way to reconcile these differences with little money?
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>>97643007
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>>97643009
You could also paint insanely gory death guard. Their terminators have massive fucking scythes called man-reapers.
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>>97643009
Just make gory death guard?
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>>97643005
>nooooo, child, it is YOU who is the mentally ill lolcow. enjoy the psych ward, stalker
never beating the lolcow allegations, fecalslopper. you are a fat faggot with bitch tits.
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>>97643013
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>>97643013
Which Disney Princess would you FUCK? For me it's Jasmine
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>>97643017
What a bizarrely personal attack, almost as if it's an apt description of the accuser himself...absolutely pathetic anon..
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>>97643020
she’s 15 bro…
for its rapunzel. of age and would definitely be down to paint models.
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>>97643025
Aladdin came out in 1992 you redditor, using your own dumb logic, Jasmine is of age
>we may live in the grimdarkness of the future but i would never, ever, EVER rape or have sex with someone under the age of consent
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>>97643023
>Every accusation is an admission, pathetic child. Enjoy prison, stalker.
you are just like him. it's actually unreal
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>>97643030
Thank you for saying it, I was just about to myself. Replace "stalker" with "scumlord" and "prison" with "ban" and Fatrick is just Decalmutant.
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>>97643030
kek, you're so fucking weird. Who even is that you scum fuck?
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>>97643030
>>97643036
Samefag niggerisms
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roll to attack
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>>97643029
my logic never included the age of the movie tf you on about? also mind by your logic you’re lusting after a woman in her late forties. there’s nothing wrong with that of course, but she’s definitely going to be MILFed up by then.
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>>97643059
Stop, I can only get so erect
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Could you say that a specific tau model is "black" if its face shape is similar to an African's?
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>>97643062
yikes, I just, I can't even
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>>97642583
So this is how you can tell if someone is taking advantage of you or is being legitimate:

>Wait, how does that work?

We're a bunch of autismos playing with little plastic army men. You better believe the second someone takes interest in some combo their army has. They will immediately explain in detail how it works.

Example:

Admech Haloscreed Battleclade meme combo(its bad in practice, I've tried)

>Belisarius Cawl
>1 Techpriest Manipulus
>10 Electropriests
>1 Dunerider

>Cawl points at a unit, giving the army reroll hits against it
>Electropriests+Manipulus disembark
>Dunerider shoots to give priests reroll wounds
>priests now have reroll hits, reroll wounds
>manipulus gives Lethal Hits
>Electropriests have Sustained 2
>strat to crit on 5s to hit
>30 attacks sustained 2 lethals rerolling all hits and wounds, specifically looking for only 5s and 6s
>This averages 16 lethals and 32 regular hits
>40ish percent chance to one tap a C'tan shard
>force lightning a god to death

Any cheater will not be able to explain this level of detail. An enthusiastic autist will share their excitement.
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>>97643065
Would you rather tau be completely racially homogenous? That's awfully bigoted of you.
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>>97643077
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bros am I blind and or retarded? What are the 40k equivalent armies for Slaneesh and Tzeentch?
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>>97643081
really nigga?
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>>97643081
Emperor's Children and Thousand Sons, respectively. Unless you mean daemons.
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>saw "media literacy" unironically used
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>>97643091
Why are you reading a 7 month old reddit thread? To make yourself mad? To bait? You cringe ass poster.
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>>97641256
In RT they were used as an example of a codex chapter.

It's weird IH don't get the same non-codex treatment as SW, despite being split quite similarly into companies that contain all the elements needed from scouts to veterans, rather than scouts and veterans being in their own companies. BA were among the first to adopt the Codex and DA adhere to it at least on paper.
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It isn't really that expensive if you actually take the time to paint your models well and don't buy stuff until your backlog is cleared
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>>97641922
Yeah, I like the old school fire paintjob on marine armor.
>>97641814
Thanks, I'll try to takke a pic, but since its an infantry spam its a lot of minis. So far its pic rel
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I finally found an army with a higher percentage of black people than Space Wolves. World Eaters are 22.6% black, compared to Space Wolves' ~20%
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>>97643134
>the army of bloodthirsty savages with no impulse control, recruited from gun-gangs and barbarians
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>>97643147
And their army acronym is WE too.
From what I could tell they're the BLACKEST army in the entire game, with Space Wolves and Black Templars tied for second. And all three of those are in the same category of "aggressive melee army with not a lot of thinking involved."
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>>97643134
they're supposed to be roman and german slave gladiators though
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The Imperial Knight I'm picking up in a few days is piloted by the Prince of the House /mydudes/ belong to. He's in a secret relationship with the pilot of the Armiger that serves as his protector, retainer and companion on the battlefield, another man, and if this ever came out they'd both be banished from their homeworld and forever shamed.
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>>97643183
As they should be
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where's the model of the month reveal james
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funny meme
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>>97643183
FAGGOTS
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>>97643195
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>>97643156
>they're supposed to be roman
Yeah it fits
>german
I feel like making fun of you.
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Who else is ready to tackle Monday like a legitimate boss! Marines!!!
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>>97643217
But it's already 4:44pm on Monday
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>>97643208
They're literally supposed to be space barbarians
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>>97643183
And what, exactly, does your degeneracy have to do with Traditional Games?
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>>97643234
The creation of /yourdudes/ is a core part of the game.
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Are indirect fire guns worth it? Mortars look so weak compared to heavy bolters.
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>>97641266
3rd most popular
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I hope everyone who participated in the shit flinging at the start of the thread gets cold sores for a month
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I've been busy monitoring the war the past couple days, did the collage drop? Anyone have it if so?
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>>97641813
That may have been me and I really do find it easier to do afterwards.
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>>97643355
It got extended by a day due to collageanon being busy and missing a few threads.
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>paint my guy a cool red and gold colour scheme
>finish
>realize it's the fucking mcdonalds colour scheme
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>>97640408
>https://gofile.io/d/wFvrCC

This what you're after?
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Do you need an exhaust out for an airbrush, or are those little boxes good enough?
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>height false advertising
>soft fingers and no arrow
but at least GW nailed "le troonscale" that has been proontable for years now and thus red corsairs are "worth the money", right fellow sloppers?
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>>97643419
I have no idea what any of that means
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>Try to see subfactions for Aeldari
>Only a couple of Cradtworlds besides the main 5
>Look up Kabals for Dark Eldar
>There's a massive ton
>Also find out Haemonculus Covens and Wych Cults also have a bunch of subfactions
What the fuck? What do I need to look up to find subfactions for Aeldari then?
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>>97643443
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Craftworld#Notable_Craftworlds
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>>97643419
the new scale is objectively better
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>>97643443
...make it yourself, its a roleplaying game. the "official factions" are mostly just the devs OCs from the 90s getting canonized.
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>>97643419
Unless those chaos guardsmen are freakishly tall that's just not what the normal human scale is everywhere else. And while the "new" chaos terminators are smaller than they should be I don't think they are smaller than regular CSM legionnaires.
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>>97643419
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wtf did they do to the guard army list? Its a complete mess
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Has anyone tried the new orbital assault detachment? I've been waiting for drop pods to become viable since 7th but I'm having trouble working it out. The detachment feels like it favours other playstyles and in practice I never have board space to place pods effectively.
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>>97643478
The coolest part about it is you can finally give hammerfall bunkers deepstrike.
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How do the Haemonculi play on table? Are they any good or are they made of paper and die very fast?
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Sometimes reading opinon pieces on how the edition is too lethal because space marines/custards struggle makes me think that the game should have a pve mode with gamemaster where their imperial emperormaxxed models just get to feel cool as npcs have to make 6+ s3 ap0 damage 0 attacks against them, with warlord being super dangerous with 5+ s4 ap1 damage 1 profile
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>>97643532
They're durable compared to most Eldar units, but that's not saying much. At least in their own detachment with the -1 to wound against S>T. They don't really have a lot of damage output or speed though so you're still reliant on other DE units like scourges, mandrakes, and hellions to take out tanks and hold objectives.
Part of it is "Covens" is just 4 units right now and two of them (Wracks, Haemonculus) are overcosted for how little they do. Their dedicated detachment is also very janky with two useless strategems (poison, revive a Haemonculus) and the best one being situationally dependent on Battleshock
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have any nidsbros here painted a neurolictor? im about to start building one and was wondering if it was a pain to paint put together and id be better of sub assembling it?
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fug, you're only supposed to apply shades to specific areas to strengthen the recesses, not all over
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>>97643419
fuck sake what is it with this general and marine height? its your most autistic fixation to date
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>>97643553
>this general and marine height
ask GW, everything in that pic is from their site
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>>97643523
But you're still bound by the deepstrike limits so I can't make my list out of drop pods, deathstorm drop pods and hammerfall bunkers...
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>Watching how to play the table top
>Termingaunt has 5 attacks that go through
>Space Marine captain rolls only 4 dice
Where'd the 5th dice go? Shouldn't he have rolled 5 dice instead of 4?
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>>97643478
>waiting several editions for something to be viable

wew LAD just fucking play it
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>>97643562
he ated it
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>>97643548
So the new combat patrol for them is completely useless?
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BALANCE DATASLATE WHEN
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>>97643570
Nigga we done with 10th
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>>97643523
does it have a transport capacity though?
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>>97643573
you might be, but my lgs isnt and they are holding off on events because "its too close to the dataslate ecks dee"
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>>97643565
>Retards at GW forgot to unfuck this error
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>>97643577
it doesnt transport anything. Its just square big turret that gives cover.
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>>97643562
The attacker has to confirm two waves of rolls: one against their own accuracy, one matching their weapon strength against the enemy toughness. Only dice that pass both rolls get to then be rolled by the defender against their own armor save adjusted by the attacker's armour penetration.

Or maybe they just made a mistake and were more focused on keeping the game moving along at a brisk pace than double checking a missed die on one weaker inconsequential attack.
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>>97643567
you take it if you want to play realspace raiders and just sac them on objective, some had moderate success sticking them in a raider for the tank shocking+melee
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>>97643573
10th isn't for another six or seven months
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>>97642466
Blackstone and Noctilith are the same
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>>97643583
The Terminid player rolled 10, and 5 melee attacks went through. So the Space Marine player rolled saves to see if any attack wounded him but the thing is he rolled 4 despite the fact the Terminid player had 5 successful dice rolls out of 10. WHERE'D THE 5TH ONE GO?
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>>97643582
it's a bunker, we see marines get inside of it, I just thought it would have a transport capacity
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>>97643603
you might have to post the video anon, otherwise we can only take your word for it
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>>97643595
What if it's a combat patrol against another combat patrol to learn game?
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>>97643567
It's certainly not great in the current meta, but these kinds of things change all the time. The pain engines are decent and the Wracks have been some of their most oppressive units in the past (9th edition thick city was notorious) and maybe again some day. Nobody runs the Covens detachment in tournaments to the point there's not even data for it. But that can change with a single data slate (1 week away) or an edition change (3 months away).

The real problem is that Wyches are cheap and fast and do real damage while also having OC2 and are just better to have in most lists right now even outside of their dedicated detachment. Kabalites have a similar problem to Wracks where they kind of got worse and also more expensive in the codex. It's a hard and unforgiving faction to play right now and you need to squeeze every point out of a lost that you can.
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for resin bits is washing them in warm soapy water essential? these are just bits for basing, not models
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>>97643608
https://youtu.be/hJRRnY4Kquk?si=em6fP0hvicyk7yfk
Fight phase part of the video.
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>>97643617
If you want glue or paint to stick to them, yes.
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>>97643570
Next week.
They would have announced it on Sunday if it were coming this week.
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>>97643603
This happens all the time. It's a valuable lesson to learn.
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>>97643607
yea, but the rules they wrote for it dont drop it from orbit or put people in it. :(
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>>97643617
Yeah. The primer is just gonna flake away otherwise
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>>97643600
It's March now. 10th will launch in late June or early July, like the last several editions have. That's more like 3-4 months away.
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>>97643619
i think they skipped over the roll to wound and just went straight to armour saves for some reason
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>>97643621
>>97643631
yeah ok, they arent 3d printed or anything but im assuming its still the same process
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>>97643635
Yeah, it's the mold release agent in this case
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>>97643633
Are we not in 10th edition?
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>>97643639
+1*
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>>97643635
Yeah we knew what you meant, 3d prints are usually already washed in alcohol and take paint/glue really well.
You almost always need to clean resin/metal minis, plastic ones tend to come pre-washed
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>>97643639
nah we are currently in 7th
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>>97643633
>It's March now
Fuck, I haven't painted a single model in the new year and its already March
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>>97643638
>>97643644
ok ty anons, appreciate it
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>>97643650
Try painting some terrain, anon. I find it helps get me back into the swing of things. I just completed an entire table if terrain. Now I'm working on my tournament army for May.
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>>97643550
Either way works. Sometimes you want the shade to darken the basecoat anyway. If you don't, and you've already applied the shade, just layer it over with the basecoat colour on the non recessed areas.
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>oh my heckin SCIENCE did AK interactive seriously just try to expand the minds of model builders by introducing reality like WW2 atrocitites?
>this is doubleplusungood
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>>97643650
Do something for the collage.
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>>97643666
we need some context, anon
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>>97643666
Satan, why are you trying to bring up bullshit from years ago?
Nobody cares
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>>97643668
nta but i dont have many idea for "big stick". i feel like it reeks of an ork conversion or something
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>>97643573
11th is just gonna be 10.5 so that doesn't mean much.
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>>97643680
They're going to fuck something major for sure that will take an entire edition to solve and break again with every new codex
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>>97643666
Erm, it would be illegal to deny the holocaust in my country
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What have you painted so far this year, /40kg/?

>finished 10 neophytes and 10 gargoyles from the end of last year
>painted another 10 neophytes
>benefictus
>patriarch
>reductus saboteur
>acolyte hybrids (5 man with mining tools)

Which isnt much but its not bad for a slow painter like myself
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>>97643680
I'm afraid they may try hero hammer with age of sigmar current rules.

Take a hero to take 3-4 units he is allowed to add to your list would suck balls when compared to the amount of freedom we have.
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>>97643693
I've painted 12 dudes in February. That's a personal record.
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>>97643700
He said painted, not sucked off
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>>97643395
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>>97643553
they’re probably short irl and very insecure about it, so they obsess over any height difference.
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>>97643693
A metal Exorcist, Junith, 15 battle sisters, a metal penitent engine, 6 Black Templars, rebased ~40 models, Thurga and Dolan and just did a novitiate squad.
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>>97643695
I'm imagining how horrific that would be for Guard because I bet they'd force you to take the specific regimental command squads to unlock their regiminetal infantry squads (ie 1 catachan command squad to take 1-3 catachan squads)
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>>97643693
I'm in the process of finishing 60 termagants, still need to paint the concrete the tongues, the eyes and teeth with a black wash and a last cover of post shade metallics, but they are almost ready to base.
Finished 20 gargoyles, 10 genestealers a tyranofex with acid spray and got my death leaper to a point I'm satisfied.

I'm currently painting the starter set for killteam as a reset button from so many tyrnaids, I'm going to paint the death guard as the cleaved unless someone suggests something cooler

What's the coolest death guard scheme you guys would recommend?
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>>97643695
The amount of freedom we have right now sucks balls and promotes spammy ass lists so that would be an improvement. The quickest ways to improve 10th without changing the core rules would be to add some kind of FOC, make points and wargear work like 9th again and add cover saves and obscuring terrain back into the game.
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>>97643715
>horrific
Not at all
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>>97643700
thats awesome anon, what did you paitn

>>97643714
>>97643720
absolute machines, how do you two get the time to paint so much?
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>>97643722
Well excuse me princeps but I do enjoy having minimal characters and just a bunch of infantry with some repulsors on the side.

I don't want a fucking specific hero character or a bunch of tech Marines telling me I can't take 2 repulsors, 2 impulsors and a executioner to have fun with a fast mobile support force of dakka Marines.

Seriously I don't think you get to have fun with transports in old editions outside of very dumb formations.

Let's be real if we get age of Warhammer it will devolve into screens and hammers with an even more toxic meta revolving around epic heroes.
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>>97643750
>how do you two get the time to paint so much?
I'm genuinely legally retarded and usually paint during the day while I want for my carer/wife to come home
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>build up hearthguard
>unironically like them better without the pauldrons
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Why does painting one model take awhile? How do you guys paint multiple in 1 day?
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>>97643666
>unbridled homosexuality unleashed on innocent fa/tg/uys.
I just want to talk about painting and playing games with plastic army men. Why is there always someone in here trying to pedal ghey shit?
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>>97643763
If I'm painting 10 models I will do one colour across all of them and then move on to the next colour and repeat.
Gives everything time to dry as you work
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>>97643763
i tend to batch paint up until a certain point, and then finish each model one by one
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>>97643763
I paint two models in two days. I've found this to be the sweet spot for me. Batch painting really sucks the joy out of painting.
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>>97643755
Transports used to be free slots (and still are in 30k which uses a similar system to AoS, though crunchier) so I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. You'd still be able to do that under any kind of FOC. The FOC is jus there to stop degenerate stuff like 3 ballistus + 3 vindicators + the entirety of the ultramarine character clowncar + a single scout squsd like we have had in 10th.
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>>97643755
>Well excuse me princeps but I do enjoy having minimal characters and just a bunch of infantry with some repulsors on the side.
That's really funny because 10th is already characterspam while most old editions aswell as 30k just have a one or two for most armies as characters aren't gimmicky buff machines units are balanced around.
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>>97643769
I hate batch painting in tens. It feels too repetitive to me. 3-5 at a time feels like the sweet spot for me
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>>97643799
Understandable, I think most people feel that way.
I prefer painting in 5s but if a squad is 10 I feel like I have to do it all at once as I like to see the consistent progress and I want them all done at the same time.
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>>97643693
Did pic rel, plus the 4 neophytes of the crusader squad >>97641779
Hoping to do the 6 termis before summer.
Either I take a long break from painting or tackle another 2k army.
Tyranids are in my radar, or deldar with WHF delf parts.
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>>97643815
man those ancient greek style shoulder pads look amazing, did you find it hard to freehand all of that? also what paints did you use to get that terracotta colour?
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>>97643750
Time? Time is what I don't have, this entire week I'm not playing any games between fixing some kinks in my home and helping my mum.

Also it's not like painting the cleaved is hard, pro acryl bold titanium white and titanium white from the ronin line mix really well and get you a pearly white, I'm basically cheating with that combo, I'll do the silver trim in a small break tomorrow and see what I can do for the blood effects and maybe make some kornate nurglings since I already did a base of titanium with orange, I'm pretty open to see if I can add some yellow and dark brown to finish with a green wash or keep going with red and browns.
>>97643769
This works well for base colors and small one color details, it's like an assembling line of putting the eyes on the dragon so to speak.
>>97643781
My fear is coming from the age of sigmar rules becoming Warhammer rules, not regression to boring charts and naked troops to save points .

I do recall heavy supports having some restrictions back in the day which caused some problems with tanks and transports.
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>>97643755
>Seriously I don't think you get to have fun with transports in old editions outside of very dumb formations.
lolwut. Rhino rush and fish of fury are two of the most famous army builds of the 3rd/4th era. Sisters used to be the gangsta drive by faction too.
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is there a broken custodes detachment atm? i noticed that the lgs metachaser was interested in starting an army
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Why do AoS models mog 40k so fucking hard? Is it different designers at the company?
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>>97643828
go back to your containment general please
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>>97643693
I didn’t do anything for january, but for february I painted
>2 spindle drones
>2 ur-ghuls
>2 ork boyz
>7 ork kommandos
Mostly schizophrenically bouncing around, but now I’m fairly confident in my painting abilities, so now I’m going to knock out entire units starting with the kommandos.
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>>97643829
It's true though sis, although Chaos and Xeno 40k models are great, the Imperium models are so boring
I mean the only reason people give a shit about IG is because of Krieg
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>>97643826
You may as well speak in ancient language, I'm sorry for not having a grey beard to remember the magical realm of 4th edition the ancients seem to recall.

I do find it funny that whenever old people reminiscence fondly about old hammer is always 4th, no one wants to remember 6th or 8th.
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>>97643824
I also want 40k to stay the fuck away from AoS rules since every issue I have with the game since 8th and especially in 10th comes directly from AoS. But having an actual FOC even if it's in the style of AoS/30 is better than having none at all like 10th. Issues with heavy support and transports only happened to stuff like land raiders that had a transport capacity but weren't dedicated transports because it's a whole ass tank full of guns, not just a metal box with treads.
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>>97643835
Probably because 8th isnt oldhammer?
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>>97643693
Pic relateed, i'm going to focus on Titanicus now, but I want to make a CSM list
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>>97643183
Ew are you gay sex penis?!
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>>97643722
go fuck yourself.

how am I supposed to bring 2000 points of dreadnaughts like that?
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>>97643838
2017 isn't old? I mean we are as close to it's as 8th was to 5th start.

Man I feel old just thinking about it.
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>>97643419
Primaris propotions and size looks better for marines.
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>>97643852
It's old but it's not considered oldhammer, the two can both be true.
8th was fun honestly, 9th and 10th have been huge steps backwards.
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>>97643835
>no one wants to remember 6th or 8th.
Proabably because 6th and 7th were a clusterfuck that needed a big trim and 8th was when they did the trim and fucked it up. The pre-8th core system was better, but you're not gonna choose the wrost version of it.
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>>97642504
Grotesques and Rakarth are basically guaranteed even if they don't get a big wave next edition. Maybe a new pain engine chassis too. Kheradruakh/Decapitator probably as well. All are mentioned extensively in recent material.

Vect seems like a shoe-in at some point. Classic, iconic, big and flashy for a range with no centerpiece.
Court probably won't return in the same shape or form, but Ur-ghuls and Sslyth are both super popular and the former is already in plastic. The do seem like a good fit for the new 5-man-elite quad Kill-Team has been favoring lately along with the new Archon.
Beastmasters are weird and the Warpbeast pack of hounds is classic since the army launched but the clawed fiend and birds have always been weird. They might try to give them the Helspiders or Megasaur from the lore instead.

Wyches, Hellions, Scourges, Succubus, and Haemonculus are all old and janky model kits that will be updated at some point. Scourges and Wyches are still on slotted bases that GW has already phases out of all their other ranges.

Forgeworld stuff is probably gone forever. The flyers are on their way out too. The Tantalus MIGHT return as an alternative build for Vect's battlebarge if they're
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>>97643835
I like 8th untill they came out with the 2.0 marine codex
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>>97643858
found the guy who started in 8th
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>>97643855
Nah. CSM proportions are better. Marines aren't supposed to be just humans but scaled up 1.5 times. They are supposed to be unnaturally wide and built like shit brickhouses. CSM achieve that while also making them properly tall.
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>>97643870
I started in 4th, I remember it was just before the BT codex released because the local GWs owner told me about the new rules coming out soon when I took my BTs there to play one evening.
I think I just remember 8th fondly because I played it a lot with a couple of close friends if im going to be honest.
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>>97643821
Thanks! It was hard at first, which is why I trained by doing squiggle scripts for my Templars.
I use .003 and .005 microns for straight lines, but for a more curved patterns I just use a brush. The microns make it much easier than what it is.
I use a brush for when I need to add colors though.
For the orange I use Jokaero orange. Its the perfect color. I used seraphim sephia for the wash, and jokaero mixed with any bone color for the highlights.
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>>97643879
>I think I just remember 8th fondly because I played it a lot with a couple of close friends if im going to be honest.
I feel the same about 5th myself. That was my largest saturation of friends playing the game with me while we were all learning and everyone was bad at optimization and just ran cool stuff and we all still painted together.
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>>97643828
>Is it different designers at the company?
Yes, but also 40k designers have to fallow outdated style guildes that aren't caught up to modern sculpting possibilities
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Really, what's the reason GW's hellbent on using IGOUGO for 40k? It's not fun to wait 1 hour before you can roll some dice
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>>97643902
You're rolling dice all over your opponent's turn, though? And alternating activations aren't really better, just different. I'd rather 40k still be 40k.
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>>97643902
Have you ever played an IGOUGO system? It has its own problems that only get worse the more units you have to activate on the board.
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>>97643902
GW don't like change and don't want to scare off retards
alternating activations is both big change and adds 1 extra thing for tards to fail to keep track of
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>>97643908
I tried some Necromunda and it's constantly entertaining. 40k is a snoozefest in comparison.
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>>97643908
>its still fun, you get to roll dice to see if you can play with your entire army or not!!
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>>97643912
Necromunda is a skirmish game with a handful of models per side. 40k has dozens of models you don't control individually, but in units.
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>>97643871
CSM look like dwarves, it looks dumb. Primaris are better.
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>>97643902
If I recall correctly, Andy Chambers actually suggested in 4th edition when he was the lead game developer and was shot down. I think there's an interview with him somewhere about it and why they ultimately decided it was too fundamental a change to the identity of 40k as a game.
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>>97643915
Right because getting outactivated by chaff feels so great!!!
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You can do the LotR alternating phases system
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>>97643902
Its the best system
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>>97643902
Alternating Activation 40k would BE KINO AND KING SHIT
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>got some faction dice a month ago and still havent used them yet
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>>97643930
alternate activation would be interesting, but it would take a bit of tuning so that high activation army can't just out activate their opponent.
I really like how SW legion does it with the Order tokens and the randomisation on things you didn't actively order, so you can't always use the exact unit you want at the right time.
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>>97643916
Yeah, but you have about the same amount of units as necromunda's got models
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>>97643937
40k with Legion activation is the closest we'd get to perfection
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>>97643940
But those units have way more capabilities than individual models in Necromunda do. There's alsoa big difference in number and power between different units. If they just straight up switched to alternating activations elite armies would just cease to work because any army with access to chaff can just take 10 msu units to force the elite army to activate their units with nothing to do before the other army can activate all their good units at the same time. You'd need to fundamentally change the core of the game to the point that it would be unrecognizable.
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>>97643937
Reducing player control is bad
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>>97643932
>got some faction dice and stopped using them because I was rolling 1s an unnatural amount of times with them (sometimes rolling 1s 3-4 times in a row)
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>>97643928
MESBG is stil a skirmish game. There's a reason why the vast majority of skirmish games use alternating activations and why unit games don't. It just works better for some kinds of games and worse for others.
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>>97643948
Necromunda solved that problem with double activations for elite units
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>>97641819
smol update
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Just remember anons, Decalfag loves IGOUGO.
Think on that.
Reflect.
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>>97643969
He doesn't because he does not play.
Just like he doesn't paint
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>>97643969
...maybe we should give Alt actions a chance
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>>97643828
Only centerpiece models. Regular ones is gatbage with falcon-tier mold lines
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>>97643943
It honestly would be too much of a leap with stratagems being a good stand in for order cards, but it would definitely take a lot of work to implement as a house rule.

>>97643949
You know what's also bad, having a mismatch in activation sizes which leads to people using their trash units first to bait out your opponents activations, and once activated their entire army you can just sweep them up with all the good units you held off activating.
Legion has lots of ways to work around the random amount activation, but if someone tries to spam out things for activation spam they can run into the lack of control issue.
You need ways to balance AA, and uncertain activation has been a good system that legion has been using.
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I don't want alt activations because this game keeps changing and I don't want more change
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Any anons have a good guide to sculpting rivers? I wanna put a river running along the base of my Lord of Change but the sculpting process and figuring out how the water should behave is stumping me a bit. I might be a bit retarded but this is my first proper sculpting
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>>97643902
>Really, what's the reason GW's hellbent on using IGOUGO for 40k?
Two reasons

They believe IGOUGO makes the game FEEL like warhammer, rather than some other game, so there's a sort of ideological conservatism about it

They manage to sell with this type of rules and have worked on decades-long game designs and attempts at balance around this system, so they'll very much prefer sticking to what they know rather than waddling into uncharted waters as long as numbers go up
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People keep claiming that it would easy for alternating actions to be included in 40K, but that requires a complete overhaul of the game to function properly and I legitimately think it would kill the game for good.
FOC is also a meme that people shouldn’t cling to. Not as severe as it, but I’d rather see more dynamic list building.
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>>97643828
it really doesn't
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>>97643902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0IevQKFbKI
Summary for lazy people, like me:
> Historical and thematic reasons: Desire to maintain a strategic game feel reflecting grand battlefield maneuvers.
> Design challenges: Huge variability in army size and composition (from very few large units to many small units) complicates alternate activation balancing.
> Community and market realities: The games are more popular than ever with I-GO-U-GO; a major change risks alienating the established player base.
> Studio awareness: The design studio actively experiments with alternate activation in skirmish titles but opts to refine I-GO-U-GO for flagship games, introducing mitigations like reactive command abilities in Age of Sigmar to reduce downtime.
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>>97643978
>people using their trash units first to bait out your opponents activations, and once activated their entire army you can just sweep them up with all the good units you held off activating.
So stratagy is bad
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>>97643828
I had to think back to when the last 40K release I liked and that was probably when gene stealers released. So 7th edition? I can’t recall.

But yeah I liked Aos sculpts better. Test painted the new basic bitch stormcast and they were more fun to paint at the shop than marines imo. If I get better at painting I’ll pick up one of the elf armies after I’m done with tau.
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A game doesn't need alternating activations to be good. Warmachine for example was IGOUGO too and was a great game. 40k is just shit. But along those same lines, people saying "it would require a fundamental change to the game" as if it was a bad thing are dumb because 40k sucks and does need a fundamental change.
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>>97643998
No, but given the how diverse 40k armies are in terms of hoards, elites, and inbetween, implementing ways to reduce activation is important to keep that diversity alive.
Like I said, legion has ways to work around this, e.g. certain units able to bounce orders to each other when they're close, which also leads to counter play options on breaking those link units.
How would you go about balance AA activation spam so that all types of armies would be viable is some way?
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>GW named an entite planet near Terra UrAnus
Why did James do this?
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>>97644003
warmachine was eaten by crunching numbers so that no matter how cool your robot looked it couldn't square up to 20 dudes one rounding it so it went from a skirmishy game to borderline wargame because you had to fill out the points and warjacks were just a distraction carnifexes
starcraft is going with alternating but in order to not make the game a messy drag of getting outactivated you have to start with half army in reserves and get supply turn after turn but that comes with it's own baggage
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>>97644003
Are you underage or are you legitimately retarded? What compelled you to share that? Are you looking for attention?
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>>97644007
>How would you go about balance AA activation spam so that all types of armies would be viable is some way?
I wouldn't, larger armies having more activations is a benefit of a larger army to balance out their units being worse.
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>>97644009
they even made it a gas planet
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>>97644014
>larger armies having more activations is a benefit of a larger army to balance out their units being worse.
Great in theory, never great in practice.
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>>97643995
>FOC is also a meme that people shouldn’t cling to.
I do like the classic 40k FOC but the point is that list building needs trestrictions and structure. Not only because it's better for balance, but because it enforces more varied lists and makes listbuilding a lot more interesting and engaging than what they did with 10th.

Stratagemns need to die in a fire though. I'm fucking tired of gimmicky abilities and metacurrencies to keep track of. Let units, their wargear and stats and tactics do the talking.
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odds iron hands
evens world eaters
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>>97644025
enjoy the turrets in combat patrol sis
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>>97644025
ain’t no way you’re going to go through with it.
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>all of this alt activations talk

Just play fuckin kill team already
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>>97644036
That games dogshit for its own reasons. I hope city fighting kills that game.
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>>97644014
But hoard army's also have elite units in there to balance that out themselves.
So the build would be for nids is just spam min squads of rippers and other low point units, then once your close to good amount you then just use that sizeable remaining points to take monsters and elites.
AA is a fun system, but it's not perfect and very susceptible it's own balancing problems, which is a reason why 40k has stayed with its current system to this day since it's rules writers can't balance for shit and are honestly down right retarded.
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>>97644036
It's amazing how GW managed to turn the silly 80s action movie narrative game into a competitive sweatfest
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>>97644036
I think it's a nice change in pace in discussion, especially since it's outing people that don't play games.
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>>97644041
>So the build would be for nids is just spam min squads of rippers and other low point units, then once your close to good amount you then just use that sizeable remaining points to take monsters and elites.
WAACfaggorty
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>>97643371
if so, you're still silly
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>>97644055
Yes, that's exactly what is it you mong.
Which is why aa requires limitations like legions randomness system to avoid that.
So explain to me how you would balance it.
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>>97644067
By banning WAACfaggorty. IE no more than X amount of the same unit, 2 or 3.
Quite simple :3
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>>97644084
Simple but not effective.
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>>97643997
this is the spearhead guy right?
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>>97644084
>no more than X amount of the same unit, 2 or 3.
>have that now
>WAACfags still exist
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>mfw none of the new models actually has the Red Corsair keyword
wtf
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>>97644090
>Fix this problem!
>Here, fixed.
>N-no not like that! :(
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>>97644157
>but not effective
retard-kun
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>>97644155
So?
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>>97644126
Yes
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>>97644155
Doesn't it make sense for them to join basically any CSM warband?
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jgwkothg/eye-of-terror-the-reign-of-iron-begins/
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>>97644177
>>97644180
Huron actually used to have it on his old sheet
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>>97644189
erm, 500 worlds xisters? i thought we were the last campaign of 10th
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>>97644157
You sound delusional enough to actually be a GW rules writers.
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>>97644189
>that cover art
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>>97644189
>In addition to this narrative, a new set of rules brings classic large-scale Apocalypse games back to Warhammer 40,000 with a system of modular guidelines and adjustments that make it a breeze to run battles of epic proportions.
If it's not a 1:1 re-release of the 8th edition apocalypse ruleset I don't want it, their rules team peaked with that and have never reached that high since
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>The destruction of Cadia at the height of Abaddon’s 13th Black Crusade brought unimaginable woes upon the Imperium – not least the creation of the Great Rift – but despite the forces of Chaos now surging from the Eye of Terror in great numbers, the Cadian Gate has not truly fallen. Imperial bastions and forge worlds still desperately hold out against the tide, and while they stand, Chaos cannot truly begin its grinding march towards Holy Terra.
it was all for nothing then, we're back to square one
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These covers look embarrassing. It’s on par with ninjas Minecraft pro guide.
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>>97644189
So this basically confirms we're getting Peter eventually, right?
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>>97644219
It's for Perturabo to smashes it open and another loyalist returns..
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>>97642987
Pure reddit
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>>97644230
Way to out yourself as an underage.
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>>97644189
>yet more csm and sm detachments
someone kill me already
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>>97644238
Would people even understand me if I said it looked like something out of scholastic fair instead? Do kids still get that?
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>>97644232
no, why would it?
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>>97644249
they're still doing those yes
you have to buy the minecraft book before they let you buy any cool toys
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>having nostalgia for the original primaris cope
>spikey bits is still repeating "they aren't replacements!" just last year
kekeke
https://spikeybits.com/what-is-a-primaris-do-they-replace-normal-marines/
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>>97644240
lol I play CSM and I'm like damn you GW niggas really want to give me more detachments? I haven't even played all the ones that released. Oh well bring them on. Looks like it'll be a reworking of Fellhammer siege host and Soulforge warpack
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>>97644271
>>having nostalgia for the original primaris cope
why would you have nostalgia for such a thing?
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>>97644273
i wanted to build cabal but my enthusiasm for it eventually dropped and i've realized when list planning that wouldn't really enjoy playing spiky marines but good for you that you're at least content
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Are thousand sons rumored to get anything rule wise soon
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>>97644285
bro your new chaos defiler?
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>>97644285
why would they?
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>>97644289
I couldn’t get any more flaccid. I should think of a suitable proxy either way I guess.
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>>97644282
>he doesn't love trainwrecks
>he doesn't love trainwrecks he accurately foresaw
must suck to be a normalfag
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>>97644189
>apocalypse rules at the end of 10th
Bit fucking pointless
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>>97644297
If primaris were a trainwreck, then GW would've gone bankcrupt, died and killed 40k along with it.
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>>97644282
Because he's stuck 9 years in the past and can't enjoy anything unironically anymore so the closest he can get is getting angry at things that don't matter while insisting he's totally calm and smug
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>>97643478
>monopose droppods
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>>97644315
You presume to know this anons entire mindset and prior life history based on a couple comments on an anonymous board, total absolute buffoonery.
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>>97644320
Because that's the only type of "person" making posts like that
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>>97644320
Fuck off decalpedo
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>>97644313
>literally splitting your fanbase between two game systems
>people still pissy a decade later
>not a trainwreck
"utter ruin immediately from the consequences of actions" is a notion only zoomers and fags obsessed about "winning" something expect.
choose.
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>>97644189
Remember to buy these books that definitely won't be unusable come summertime when 11th edition drops.
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>>97644325
I'm not going anywhere you scum
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>>97644329
trying too hard
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>>97644329
Splitting implies literally anybody plays HH
Fuck off tourist
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>>97644271
God their website is so shit
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>>97644343
Next you're going to tell me killing off TOW wasn't a train wreck either.
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Who tf buys an end of edition book to play for 3 months?
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>>97644329
>literally splitting your fanbase between two game systems
This is good. Broadens your consumer audience.
>people still pissy a decade later
Good. Any press is good press.
>not a trainwreck
Gw still aren’t professional enough is my only complaint with them.
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>>97644350
pigs
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>>97644189
>Battle for the Cadian Gate
>No Cadian detachment
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>>97644349
Not killing WARHAMMER FANTASY (not tow you dumb fucking retard) in 6th edition was their mistake.
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>>97644346
>create whole new game system to appeal to the people you alienated
>then remove everything that made it appealing a decade later
>community shrivels and is currently in it's death throes
again, time has to elapse first, zoomer
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>>97644350
Retarded fucks who go above and beyond the call of duty to shill for GW
>>97644358
>What is Grizzled Company?
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>>97644349
>killing off TOW
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>>97644349
Wrong term aside, yeah killing off fantasy probably saved GW. It took a decade of “olden days memes” and three video games from a big publisher to make people care about fantasy again.
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>>97644352
>This is good. Broadens your consumer audience.
take it up with >>97644346
>thinks "outrage" is sustainable
people will get bored and completely check out once they notice "their" pet project isn't getting attention
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>>97644358
Guard getting their stuff with the last book, Armageddon
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>>97644359
>>97644368
>triggered by a misnomer
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>>97644349
see >>97644343
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>>97644366
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>>97644350
Not me. I'm working to get back in but waiting for 11th. After the 11th drop I'll pick up 10th for my collection after it hits the 50% clearance shelf or a good copy at one of the used bookstores.
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>>97644371
>people will get bored
No, they won’t. They’ll see the faults in gw but will continue to buy them. Or worse, play their games.
Half the hobby is just people hating something.
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>>97644189
>space marines as posterboys again
How badly their clanker foes will job?
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>>97644377
Wow... it's almost as if the fluff blurb says it's named AFTER mordians and not exclusively used by them...
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>>97644374
Anon I'm confused, not triggered.
It's clear now that it was a poor attempt at baiting though
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>>97644375
>all the communities are thriving!
>everyone is HAPPY!
tourney fags are the only people celebrating the state of GW, and that's if they agree with the state of the "meta"
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>>97644329
>>literally splitting your fanbase between two game systems
It didn't really do that. Marinefags still play 40k and buy primaris shit.
>>people still pissy a decade later
People who are pissy about it even now are never going to happy regardless what GW does.


Also at the same time this whole fanbase "split" is entirely performative and means fuck all.
The people who jumped ship to Horus Heresy are STILL buying and playing GW products, aka GW is still making money off these retards while the said retards think their temper tantrum meant anything.
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>>97644386
buddy when people tell you you're trying way too hard and making it way too obvious you don't stomp your feet and try even harder
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>>97644349
>killing off TOW
I can tell you're a newfag tourist.
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>>97644388
GW as a company is happy, the mainline games team is pissy
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>>97641242
>"don't read the codex" because this Hollywood actor is a fag
What in the schizophrenic fuck do those have to do with each other

>"don't tweak rules on your own at all" because who the fuck is going to play made up shit with you
Ahhhh this explains a lot. The people you're supposed to do that with are called your "friends". Makes sense that one would confuse you
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>>97644383
Can you point to where it says it’s a Cadian detachment?
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>>97644401
>replying to 15 hour old bait
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>>97644393
They aren't pissy either.
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>>97644352
>Broadens your consumer audience.
A new audience? Perhaps a more "modern" one?
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>>97644402
Besides the marine ones being tied to specific chapters no detachment as far as I can tell *has* to be a specific subfaction. Your autism is severe. ALSO what was Cadia besides the highlighted part in picrel? Do I need to break it down further or..?
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>>97644403
He must've forgotten he needed to check in with you first... /s
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>>97644408
I'd be surprised if this got even one blackoid into 40k (I'm being generous and not even saying to play)
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>>97644403
How is this thread 17 hours old, have we forgotten how to bake bread?
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>>97644404
Their rivalry with the specialist games team is big enough they delayed telling them about 8th to fuck over Fires of Cyraxus.
And both teams directly compete for sales in GW’s competition system.
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>>97644414
kek Based. Too many busy body faggots in this thread
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>>97644419
Only works on SW players.
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>>97644429
We just throw those heads in the trash and use spares.
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>>97644425
>they delayed telling them about 8th to fuck over Fires of Cyraxus.
No. Fires of Cyraxus got fucked over because the guy working on them fucking died.
It has nothing to do with internal rivalries, you retard.
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>>97644432
>use spares
>admitting SW aren't white
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>>97644420
a very autistic indian man will have a category 5 melty if you ever dare bake HIS thread before the image limit
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>>97644425
It's retarded enough that you think there is a rivalry but it's mega retarded to think that literally nobody from the two departments talked at all when they work in the same offices, same buildings, eat in the same places, ect.
No body talked to other staff, no higher up sent an email with the dates, no staff meetings, nothing.
Seriously, you have be be fucking deluded to think that's the case
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>>97644420
learn board etiquette newfag
we're not at page 8
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>>97644391
End Times was FUN!
Everyone was having such a great time, and totally wasn't a trainwreck.
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>>97644420
We usually bake on page 8 or at image limit.
Mods get angry and start deleting shit otherwise
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>>97644461
gottem
at least you're now in the acceptance phase of your collection of buff african men
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New Chaos Eldar just dropped.
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>>97644462
mods don't give a shit, this individual uses a ban evading website to switch IPs and spam reports on anything he doesn't like, he does it often here
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>>97644461
They're only schizophrenics if they're wrong
And they're right
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>>97644471
What!?!?
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>>97644471
>Ban evading website to switch IPs
Did he also backtrace your router and hack the GUI
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>>97644471
That doesn't have anything to do with baking new threads
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>>97644469
I forgot age of smegmar put their dark elf wyches in hijabs KWAB
Absolutely halal!
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>>97644478
He's just obsessed with me, deranged ape scum.
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>>97644469
>covering up witch elves
Modern gw was a mistake
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>>97644429
>VIKANGZ
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>>97644486
>i just know he is talking about me
uhhhhh...
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>>97644490
They’re a new unit, I don’t mind a full armor variant desu. As long as the old ones stay
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>>97644496
>As long as the old ones stay
Anon...
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>>97644496
They're still witch elves there's 0 reason to cover them
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>>97644501
which elves?
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so they're bringing back the Apocalypse format? that's the new mini expansion?
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>>97644501
I said I want the old ones to stay, and most of the faction should be borderline nude.
I just don’t mind them getting an armored unit
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>>97644481
Tbqh I think it'd be nice to have a unit wearing chainmail balaclava like the old pewter executioners.
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>>97644429
Just paint those dudes white.
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>>97644518
I paint them white on the sprue and then use the helmet anyway.
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>>97644490
I think they're meant to be like the old Dark Elf Executioners.
I don't mind them on their own, is kinda odd they used them for the Witch Elf faction though.
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>>97644518
>White Space Wolf recruit, reporting in!
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>>97644471
>thinks spamming reports makes them auto delete
fishy...
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>>97644530
Did you know Njal's Crows first name is Jim?
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>>97644530
I’d accept it as long as the Canis helix retcons making you white like the Sallies make you black
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>>97644540
>>97644540
>>97644540
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>>97644538
Ban evading already huh
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How do you think they'll butcher tacticals with the updated kit? Seems like every unit they've released recently with special weapons just has a plasmagun or a meltagun per 5 models. Will they finally let primaris use rhinos? If rhino rushed tacticals are 11th's op combo it will be very funny.
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>>97644535
if it's an early thread it is against the rules but most generals i never see the mods care unless it is very early or deliberate to fuck with the OP
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>>97644548
Brother I didn't get a ban or even a warning they just removed the post with a variation of the N word in it for some reason. Makes no sense.
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>>97644471
>uses a ban evading website to switch IPs
How the fuck does that work? Unless they use the website as a proxy to connect through to 4chan with?
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>>97644543
sallies have an overactive organ that all space marines have.
canis helix is specific to SW.
you're literally supposed to just paint the standard space marine heads as if they're cover in ash
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what if the canis helix makes you african?
what did gw mean by this? what does this say about SW players?
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>>97644588
It says you're a faggot
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>>97644481
I bet GW feel silly now releasing these right after Iran got cratered.
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>>97644634
explains the state of the SW though
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>>97644261
Learn to read? The whole article is:
>Perturabo!
>Perturabo!
>Fight for Perturabo!
>Perturabo's plan!
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>>97644733
You are like an obsessive woman, just drop the subject of Black Wolves entirely, its cringe.
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>>97644872
buyer's remorse, furfag?
probably should of learned the 40k lore before investing
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Isnt it weird that we'll sooner get a Perturabo model than know by who's power he ascended to Daemonhood?
You can secure your ascension on your own, but that power comes from somewhere

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