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Uh Oh Stinky Edition

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ:
Be honest anon, how does your personal hygiene compare to the rest of your LGS?
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For those who didn't catch it:

Duel Commander is finished. The last good remotely popular (singleton) format with a reasonable banlist and no politics BS: gone.

What the fuck are these people actually smoking. As if WOTC wasn't doing enough damage to the game.
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>>97642348
>Be honest anon, how does your personal hygiene compare to the rest of your LGS?
Impeccable.
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>TQ
Just admit you want my musk
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>>97642395
Duel Commander is now called "Aeonshift" and will use a points system based on your commander.
This has to be a fucking joke.
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>>97642395
>>97642400
shizo theory, they are killing DC on purpose so that wizards can adopt it into a Historic Brawl-lite format.
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>>97642395
it's march 1st not april, did they get confused somehow?
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>>97642400
>>97642395
I'm glad the changes they wanted to implement in commander is being tested in your trash joke format first.
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>>97642395
>>97642400
What the hell is duel commander and why should I care?
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>>97642419
Its 1v1 commander.
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>>97642419
It's 1v1 commander with no politics BS and a sensible banlist. Same deckbuilding rules. Similar to Historic Brawl on arena which is shit because it allows gamewarping cards like TOR.
>>97642410
You got it wrong, in fact. Elder Dragon Highlander (which you mistakenly refer to as Commander) is already ruined.
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>>97642424
>You got it wrong, in fact. Elder Dragon Highlander (which you mistakenly refer to as Commander) is already ruined.
Okay histrionic tranny.
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>>97642423
>Its 1v1 commander.
>>97642424
>It's 1v1 commander with no politics BS and a sensible banlist.

Didn't know that existed. I've just always had an EDH deck I designed to play against one other player. I never knew it was a separate format. Since when? Like I'm going to change my deck because of some WotC BS.
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>>97642424
>Elder Dragon Highlander (which you mistakenly refer to as Commander)
There is no such format as Elder Dragon Highlander and never has been.
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>>97642433
Cope and seethe. Duel Commander was your last hope for a color limited Commander-centric singleton format. You are not technically a human being, therefore you are not capable of understanding the truth. Sad.
>>97642437
>Didn't know that existed
It's not an official WOTC format. It bans cards like Maddening Hex which are designed to be balanced around multiplayer games but become utterly broken in 1v1. While in EDH (commander) you have cards like Rhystic Study which are not incredibly good in 1v1 like in Multiplayer.
>>97642438
Yes, there is (and was). We know this because this why you take 21 "commander damage" to lose in the game that you today call Commander, because all the original Elder Dragons you used as your "commander" all had 7 power, for an even 3 hits to win.
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>>97642449
>Your last hope
Nah. Didn't care before, don't care now. I'm not the one throwing a melty within the first 10 posts and will probably continue for the entire thread.
Pro tip: When someone calls you out for being a histrionic tranny, don't double down.
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>>97642455
>Didn't care before, don't care now
>why are you mad bro? Just let it happen bro.
And again you use the word "tranny" to distract yourself from the fact that you are not a human with relevant opinions, but an NPC. Luckily you're in good company, there are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of you and you did a great job ruining Elder Dragon Highlander already.

You almost certainly own WOTC cardboard. You are pathetic.
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I find I can only really have fun at my LGS if I'm running an answer-heavy/controll-y deck. Otherwise someone with an answerless value pile will just pop off and kill everyone.

Anyone got any unconventional control commanders?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97642479
play pedh
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>>97642395
>Check top decks in this format
>Spiderman 2099, Jeskai Aragorn, Cloud, Deadpool, Gruul Toph, Azorius Aang, MonoG Tifa, Kefka, and Ghyrson Starn
lol
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>>97642483
https://manabox.app/decks/AZyYKs1FcmOP7nAIALX2Ew
How is my Subi deck?
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>>97642531
she cute
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>>97642449
>you take 21 "commander damage" to lose in the game that you today call Commander, because all the original Elder Dragons you used as your "commander" all had 7 power, for an even 3 hits to win.
What you're referring to is no more a format than dan-dan
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>>97642483
Who in their right mind is gonna play pedophile elder dragon highlander?
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>>97642348
>tq
I like to shower and dress nicely so much better than LGS.
The LGS I went to before this one was a lot more aggressive in telling people to go home and bathe if they wanted to stay in the store but it was run by women and thus way cleaner/nicer/friendlier
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>>97642424
Oh, it's this tool again.
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>t2 apprentice necromancer
>t3 dark ritual tormenting voice discarding etali, primal storm, necromancer the etali, vamp for archon of cruelty
God I love reanimator
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>>97642348
>tq
I shower every other day and have a lab job. My LGS is actually pretty good about kicking out stinky people. There's another one in town that eternally smells like feet though.
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>Guy in the pod takes a 20 minute long turn that doesn't end in a win for him
>Has the gall to complain when someone immediately takes him out in the next rotation.
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>>97642395
All of the duel commander players I knew jumped ship to canlander years ago.
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>>97642644
I just switched to normal commander. Used to have titania, thalia, vendilion clique, and meren together. But never found people who play since I moved out of my hometown.
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>>97642607
turn 2 witherbloom apprentice turn 3 dark ritual chain of smog gg next game?
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>fetchlands still expensive
What are the cheapest ways to get these in any packs or sets? I need them all.
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How much would the table hate playing against this?
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>>97642424
>TOR
Vast majority of cedh decks arent even including this card anymore. Its good, but slow unless you specifically have an abundance of untap synergies.
>muh protection
Can be gained at better rates.
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>>97642449
>last hope
I mean I only play with my girlfriend and sometimes my dad as well. We play whatever we want. Maybe if you werent so insufferable youd have friends and you could play whatever you wanted.
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>>97642478
I really enjoy my UW Ellyn Harbreeze deck. Tokens give you board presence, mana, cards etc. And she lets you dig for the necessary answer in the moment. Its one of two decks I have that is undefeated, although I dont bring it out often for that same reason.
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Two questions, how does top interact with the keyword explore? Also should I add the Omni-Cheese Pizza in her deck since I draw a card when it first enters then I can earthbend it, sac it then get another draw from it?
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>>97642853
proxy
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People play dual commander? Madness.
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>>97642933
Absolutely not. If you pulled those out in my pod I'd tell you to fuck off.
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>>97642478
Erinis/Street Urchin. You're playing lands and control, so you're going to ultimately out-fuck the value piles.
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>>97642933
I'd rather just not play MTG then play against fugly proxies.

Fags like you ruined MTG (yes I know im in the EDH thread, so that's obvious)
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>>97642984
No one will miss your no games ass
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>>97642946
But Anon, I just helped you draw 2 cards... :(
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So I decided to dust off an old forgotten habbit of mine and went out of my way to start building a tribal deck. I figured there might be some interesting support cards I could play. And yet, to my absolute dismay, I realize that the only actual good tribal card that exists in the game is this fucking thing.

Its like... why? Why in all the years of magic is it so hard to print generic tribal support that this card is the only thing I'm actually happy to put in my deck. It fucking baffles me.

No I don't care about the 10th fucking tribal emblem effect. Hell, even 3tree city is better for token spam. Lorwynn came and went and it barely nothing among it actually makes playing tribal any more viable.
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>>97642984
>>97642946
If those cards were anime porn proxies you would be cheering and calling him based. So would I
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>>97643033
Goes great in my Geordi tribal Star Trek deck.
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>>97642567
First off dan-dan is a fantastic format.
>>97642449
Secondly, they weren't originally called commanders they were called generals. I don't think the commander word came around until 2010 or such.
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>>97643044
Bro, your Shared Animosity? Your Kindred Discovery? Your Kindred Dominance? Your Kindred Summons? Your Three Tree City? Your Banner of Kinship? Your White Lotus Tile? Your Urza's Incubator? Your Raise The Palisade? Your Cover of Darkness? Your Collective Inferno? Your Reflections of Littjara?
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>>97643073

When I talk about generic tribal support I am talking specifically about colorless cards. And I already mentioned 3tree city. The only one I'll give you is urza's incubator but that is sign of the problem that we still have nothing better than that, or even a sidegrade.
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>>97643076
metallic mimic kinda counts no?
plenty of tribal decks love everything entering with a +1/+1
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>>97642919
It has no special interaction with explore. Artifacts are lands on the field. It's not a Mycosynth Lattice where all cards you OWN are artifacts. And you should only play the pizzas if you have no shame. I have shame and will not be playing them despite Cryogen Relic being my favorite common.
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>>97643072
the fact that even the most diehard oldfag itt calls their general "commander" - using the wotc approved lingo without breaking a sweat - betrays their supposed puritanism
they are perfectly fine with wotc changes in principle, they are just particularly angry at changes they don't like
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what's the best black/white way to generate advantage off of discards?
I know standard is sometimes playing the equipment that has discard a card as an equip cost just to dump stuff for moonshadow, but commander has to have a better way to generate advantage off discards
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>>97642946
Cool. You movin? Cause I'm not.
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>>97643123
>commander:wb f:c o:"discard a card:"
Learning how to use scryfall search syntax will help tremendously when building decks
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>>97643033
I don't care. If you're cards are obviously fake, hard to read, and full of anime shit, i'm not taking my time to research to see if they are copies of real cards that exist. I'm just going to ignore you, and so is the rest of the LGS.
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>>97643123
white just isn't the "reward discard" color, and it would rather exile the graveyard instead of profiting from it
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>>97643145
>local man thinks he has authority when he doesn't have any, not even a single shred

Hate to see it
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I just sleeved up and test my janky Progenitus deck, that has every single exalted card in it. It's bad bros. I realized that exalted is useless without some kind of evasion or else you're attacking for 50 but getting chump blocked. I'm already seriously low on card draw, interaction and ramp, so not sure what to do. I also through in every single liege card for shits and giggles. Getting Proggy out is GG though, but I only have one mana doubler in it now. Might have to go that route. Who knows. It will never brak into bracket three.l
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>>97643152
Protection stops opponents from blocking.
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>>97643162
I know, but when I got 6 mana and a shitty little 1/1 attacking for 20 because of exalted and a True Conviction up, it get's blocked by some 0/1 plant or 4/4 flyer. It gets chump blocked all day long until Progenitus comes out, and ain't no serious pod going to let that happen.
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>>97643145
>I'm just going to ignore you, and so is the rest of the LGS.
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>>97643152
Exalted is an awful mechanic. Not in theory, but it pales in comparison to +1/+1 counters since it requires a giant janky board state.
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>>97643189
I don't care. I just like the concept of one creature just doing massive damage. It's a cheap 5 color deck I'm putting together with extra cards. Thankfully the few missing exalted cards I needed were dirt cheap. I just want to get it at least working some of the time so I need to get it cooking.
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>>97643145
>The LGS AGREES WITH ME
I actually really doubt it.
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>>97643170
who cares about a stupid 1/1, why do you even care about any creature in a Progenitus deck except for Progenitus
you aren't winning any other way, you deck should be all ramp, anthems, and protection/interaction
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>>97643170
>>97643152
>has progenitus
>doesn't attack with progenitus
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>97643302
Am I supposed to do anything aside from point out his basedness?
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>>97642866
I wouldn't mind, do your thing if you can get it to work.
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>>97642395
>>97642400

They looked at how mildly successful is Yu-gi-oh! Genesys format and decided to copy it's design elements, except shoehorned into commander and with complete ignorance towards the fact that MTG has more cards and confusing edge cases.

This will implode and die after few weeks.
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>>97643152
Progenitus needs an ungodly amount of ramp to work. Whatever you think is enough probably isn't. It is one of the slowest voltrons in the whole game.
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>>97643328
progenitus also sucks as a voltron general because 21 commander damage means without any buffs you have to swing *three* times to kill a player in which case you might as well just add him in the 99 for him to kill a player in four hits, assuming you add him at all
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I'm printing magic proxies with a focus on commander so how many of each land do I print?
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>>97643076
>Patchwork Banner
>Banner of Kinship
>Urza’s Incubator
>Herald’s Horn
>Vanquisher’s Banner
>Door of Destinies
>Progenitor’s Icon
>Icon of Ancestry
All colorless.
In future if you want card recommendations can you just ask for them like a normal person instead of this gay reddit “wrong on purpose so people correct me with the info I want” shit?
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>>97643363
As many as you need. What a stupid question.
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>>97643126
No, you can watch tho
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>>97642811
Go back to your containment bracket.
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>>97643426
I don't play with newbies
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>>97642395
Does this mean that ante cards are legal?
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My deck is a bracket 1.
My theme is UB.
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>>97643444
Ante cards are de facto legal when everyone's using proxies
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>>97643152
>>97643159
You shouldn't be worrying about getting in with anything but the big boy. I do like the idea of having exalted as a theme though. Isn't most exalted stuff in white? I assume the whole deck is loaded with all the exalted white creatures you can fit, blue and black for draw, then loads of green ramping and some red haste enchantments?
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>>97643123
White doesn't really have anything for generating value off that. That's a black thing.
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my deck is bracket 0
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My deck is bracket 0 because I don't use brackets
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>>97642866
It's cooler and splashier than other storm cards but having to shuffle your library on a storm turn goes from a long turn to an insufferable turn.
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>>97643401
>In future if you want card recommendations can you just ask for them like a normal person instead of this gay reddit “wrong on purpose so people correct me with the info I want” shit?
wheredoyouthinkyouare.exe
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>>97642933
I'm surprised people actually remember Code Geass in Anno Domini 2026.
How're your knees doing anon?
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>>97643107
Metallic mimic is kinda eh as far as colorless tribal support, It's a SLIGHT upgrade over the generic tribal lord that I can't remember the name of, and both of those are kinda bad unless you're running a tribe that is in DESPERATE need of lords (And can't run generic anthems)
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Is Bruvac too obvious for a mill commander? I was thinking of using a commander that would let me copy spells instead of merely doubling the amount of cards that get milled
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>>97643611
what would you expect when you see Bruvac on the other side? Mono Blue Aggro?
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>>97643632
Persistent Petitioners.
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>>97643542
I'm clicking your file link but nothing is happening.
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>>97643611
Bruvac is boring and excessively telegraphed. Use the femboy instead.
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>others say my deck is a bracket 3 in power level
>it's actually bracket 2 and a 50 budget one at that
there is no way I'm going to b3 hell with all those disgusting cards "unbanned"
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>>97643682
Universes Beyond is slop
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>>97643707
FINALLY somebody said it
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>>97643704
I can build a Feather, the Redeemed deck for less than $30 which will clap everything bracket 3 and below. Stop pubstomping.
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>>97643682
>Bruvac is too telegraphed, run [equally as telegraphed card] instead
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>>97643724
Then brackets don't work
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>>97642395
>>97642400
wrong duel commander, that's the one that the retard who got kicked from the DC group tries to push

the official one is on duelcommander.org
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>>97643752
God that banlist is huge.
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>>97643752
>banned as commander has all the FIRE shit
based
>banned in deck has bloodmoon and back to basics
cringe
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>>97643752
>Bending the knee to "le offensive" cards
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Is there any way to filter for precons on moxfield? Whenever I try to look one up the results are full of custom ugrades I don't give a shit about.
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>>97643961
Have you tried reading? >>97642348
>https://magicprecons.com
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>>97643966
And how do I playtest them, smartass? Don't tell me I've got to copy paste the decklist into moxfield.
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>>97643961
just look at the ones posted by yhe wizards account, retard
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>>97644016
Import from URL?
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>>97643152
The only exalted cards worth playing for Progenitus are Rafiq, Finest Hour and the gay little mana dorks. You only really need one exalted guy and a double strike/extra combat enabler anyway. I used to play him and would ramp him out with a bouncelands and untappers. Throw a Dawn's Reflection in there and boom you got 8 mana with one Kiora's Follower.
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This card unironically ruins the game when its played
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>>97644198
>GAVIN PLEASE!! ADD IT TO THE (((GC)))
you people are pathetic
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>>97644198
How do you figure that?
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Working on Grenzo Aggro/goad with a power 2 or less subtheme.
https://archidekt.com/decks/20395580
How can i make this not shit?
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>>97644213
NTA but it often slows the game down to a crawl of people spending massive amounts of time looking at each other's hands and politicing. It feels like it doesn't even actually change the outcome of the game, just makes it take longer to get to that point.
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>>97644251
This is not a custom cards thread.
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>>>97644233
>NOOOOO THE AUTISTIC ASSHOLES THAT PLAY COMPETITIVE KITCHEN TABLE MAGIC CANT HANDLE SEEING OTHER PEOPLES HANDS!!!
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>>97644198
Cant see my hand. Fun fact, if you're attentive, you should know what's in your opponents hand without that card.
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>>97643044
This card is mid, win more, and not required in literally any tribal deck.
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>>97643072
My first EDH game was in 2008 and the people showing me the game called them commanders.
>I dont THINK
Weird, cause if you were actually playing the game back then youd know.
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>>97643733
No you just suck at deckbuilding, feather isnt even the most busted thing you can do at b3
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>>97643145
You are right, as someone who actually plays the game and doesnt just larp in this thread about proxies, ive never seen poorly made alt arts be well received.
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>>97643044
because mark nosewater LOVES doubling. he's been printing at least one in every set for 5+ years now and even has a small group he is "teaching" to do the same in the future
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>>97644341
Nta, but where I played no one started calling generals commanders until the second wave of precons. Not sure what your point is.
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>>97643337
>voltron
>without any buffs
Is it retard hours? Can we not?
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Did any of you die to door to nothingness this weekend?

>guy bitching about ub, even says ubslop
>play pic rel in my tmnt deck
>ask him what his favorite color is
>tells me to fuck off
>drop manifold key and kill him

>>97644326
>game starts
>hmmmm we are in a format with 30-50% of all cards shared between decks
>my hidden camera behind my opponents has let me know he has a force of will… hmm yes … he stands no chance against my superior intellect.. my rigged die let’s me have a high chance of going first…
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>>97643733
>kid skips a grade
>wtf im supposed to be in grade 3 not 4!!!!
>grades dont work!!!!!
This is you, except youre clearly fucking retarded and would never skip a grade. But the logic is the same here.
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>>97644016
>>97644074
Actual fucking retard lmao love to see them put in their place well done anon.
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>>97644355
You are truly braindead then anon. You avoided an actual period in time because youre larping.
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>>97644362
>yes i always have the buffs 100% of the time even though i have to fill my voltron deck with ramp to get out 10cmc creature fast enough
How about you not be retarded instead
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>>97644364
Good job anon it's always a great time to make UWfags cry
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>>97644381
If you must know I played edh most actively during 2009 and 2015 and have recently returned to it. The first deck I ever played in the format was a Kiki-Jiki pile that a friend built for me.
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>>97644364
No. In real formats you can usually guess like 70 of the 75 after two land drops. In edh, you have the context queues from the board, and only a small portion of cards matter, so you can reason your way through it fairly easily.
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>>97644387
newfag-kun, in this neighbourhood you are supposed to always have it..
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>>97644364
This is based and you should always treat whiny fags like this
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>>97644444
Quints of fucking trvth. UW needs to die ASAP
Last thread I was laughing my ass off when someone was having a meltie over how his employed friends are single handedly funding the whole superior Universes Beyond business model while he is powerless.
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>>97644487
You can play a different game, anon replying to himself. You were so well behaved, what happened?
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>>97644418
>99 card singleton
>can easily google your opponents decklist based on their commander because it’s a solved format and changing 1 of the 99 is considered spicy

It’s like watching a bunch of retards put latex gloves over the heads and take turns blacking out.
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>>97644487
How much of a corporate bootlicker do you have to be justify aesthetic and game design decisions because they're a better business model?
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>>97644516
>>97644503
This is the guy that lost btw
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>>97644511
Or, 99% of players are bananabrained windmill slamming turd gobblers doing the most linear expected things possible, and the 1% who arent make correct plays and sort themselves.

>>97644525
Yadda yadda internet detective, yadda yadda proxy legacy cards at your lgs.
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>>97644516
>UWfags never tell you how good UW is
>UWfags are more likely to be proxyfags
>there aren't enough of them to keep hasbro afloat anyways
Lol
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>>97644536
Yabba Dabba Doo
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Elfbros its literally over
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>>97644729
>gets -1/-1 on turn 26 or later
What the FUCK?
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>>97644364
This never happened.
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>>97644847
>say a UB meme
>UWfag gets hella mad
This in fact happened
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>>97643521
Rather than shuffling each time, just cut the deck randomly and take the top card from that pile.
If it's shuffled once every card is randomized anyways.
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Am i cringe for switching away from my mill deck when i see a reanimator commander
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>>97644940
You're not combo killing the reanimator player first? Or is this like a mindskinner slop deck?
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>>97644895
you never posted the deck without mana rocks we talked about
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>>97644940
Depends if you've ever tried to beat reanimator with said deck or never even gave it a chance.
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>>97644940
Just mill faster.
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Anything worthwhile in the turtles lair? I'm grabbing the Kevin Eastman arts because I like the artstyle and I still need a Sakashima's student, but god everything else looks like shit, even though the Mutanimals pack seems to be like 50$ worth of cards.
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>>97644954
No sorry i'm not that anon who posted a kataki deck as some kind of gotcha against mana rocks
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>>97644895
I haven't been in these threads in over a year. Have they just devolved into baitfaggotry over UB stuff? Pretty pathetic if true.
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>>97644968
Oh okay. I never got to continue my conversation with him. Guess he doesn't really play and is just here to argue about abstracts with smug remarks and reaction images
Many such cases
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>>97644925
Even better have your opponent cut the deck so if you get a good card it's their fault
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I still can't believe there isn't a good, solid PvE mode for commander. People love co-op friendslop, and the intrinsic problem with the format is player bitching.
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Shit, we talking about alternative commander formats?
>tfw no one gives a fuck about 60-card singleton
I'd really like to see something like it because there's enough redundancy to have focused gameplans for a ton of archetypes but there'd still be enough variance to make games fresh. Lower life totals and more streamlined decks just sounds like a more ideal way to play the game to me.
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>>97643752
>official one is on duelcommander.org
Nice """format"""
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>>97645230
I made a singleton sliver 60card deck and it's honestly refreshing playing games where it's not "first to get lucky and draw their wincon wins"
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>>97644326
>Cant see my hand.
Well since the card says you play with your hand revealed and you didn't counter or remove I guess you concede. Thanks for the win ig
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>>97645090
make a like 60 card deck that's strongly themed and play Xv1 against it, it just plays the top card of its deck every turn, maybe an extra 1 for every few players. roll for targets, rotate the player who controls its targeting, or just have the players consensus whatever the target is.
or just play sentinels of the multiverse
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>>97645312
Oh look a dumbass who said something dumb. I played the card.
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>>97645263
Agreed. I can't think of any archetype in EDH that doesn't function at all in 60-card aside from the most durdly of nonsense. The more aggressive cutting process also really helps me hone in the essence of the deck I want to build as well.
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>>97642866
I think they would get sick of me making obligatory Megamund quotes
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>>97645526
*Megamind
Fuck fat fingers
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>>97645405
>The more aggressive cutting process also really helps me hone in the essence of the deck
Agreed, the deck I made is literally just 36 1-2c slivers across all 5 colors and 4x Lifecrafter's Bestiary for card draw. None of the 5c ones just the basics with 4x Secluded Courtyard and 4x Unclaimed Territory for easier mana colors. It's quite fun
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>>97642395
>>97642400
That's actually great news and whining bitches like you should shut the fuck up and move on to 60 card formats.
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>>97642400
So basically you make a cedh deck but you make the general the worst possible one in the colors you want, awesome idea
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>>97642400
>Bre of Clan Stoutarm
>100 points
??? am I missing something
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>>97645746
Well yeah if your commander is dogshit you get more pointed cards to make up for your deck's inherent weakness. What part of this do you not understand?
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>>97642400
I'm not inherently against it but I do have to wonder the provenance of "aeon shift." Duel Commander tells you exactly what's going on, aeon shift suggests some sort of premodern type format.
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Ive ordered this for my sea monster deck. looks pretty fun desu
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>>97645818
I read the ability before first strike and almost had a brain meltdown wondering how the FUCK it comes in attacking after attacking is done. I need a fucking nap
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>>97645818
Wait, what? It puts an attacking creature on the battlefield during the damage step and after blockers? Damage doesn't use the stack and all damage resolution happens at once so how does this even work? What happens if you put another creature with first strike onto the battlefield? Does it miss the timing for dealing damage that turn?
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>>97645839
this guy >>97645838 explains it.

first time I saw it, I also thought that either I or the card designer had to be retarded.

but first strike solves this issue. bonus fun fact: the creature you put into play through his ability cannot be blocked
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>>97643152
Whoa I made a Progenitus exalted deck years ago, also with all the lieges. Crazy how I find someone else using this idea. Pic rel is a fucking BOMB in the deck cuz I'll kill two people in one turn when Prog drops.
>I realized that exalted is useless without some kind of evasion
Yes, no duh. If you're trying to make genuine progress in your gameplan with anything else other than Progenitus himself you're doing it wrong. Might as well include a bunch of Shadow/Horsemanship creatures if you wanna attack with other stuff
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>>97643028
I've played this game longer than you've known what it is.

>>97643066
Gate keeping on the front line requires compromise
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>>97645839
oh wait I hadnt fully read your post. I guess if you put another creature onto the battlefield with first strike it would ignore that ? since the first strike phase is already over when that creature would enter
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>>97644847
I've noticed a rise in these types of comments, tied to the amount of slop comments and cedh posting. Do cedh players really just go 'I'm gonna try my hardest to win' every game?

I've got so much meme shit that these competitive players get so ass mad when I cast pic rel on their force of will, draw 5, and they sit there just 'WHY THE FUCK DO YOU RUN THAT? GOD ITS SO STUPID.' then rants the rest of the game how only bad players run these kinds of cards while I mockingly talk about my overwhelming intellect
>>97645839
first strike. There are other interesting interactions with it entering attacking as well.
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>>97645952
lmao, I wish I could cast that, but this pic rel
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>>97645902
>702.7c Giving first strike to a creature without it after combat damage has already been dealt in the first combat damage step won’t preclude that creature from assigning combat damage in the second combat damage step. Removing first strike from a creature after it has already dealt combat damage in the first combat damage step won’t allow it to also assign combat damage in the second combat damage step (unless the creature has double strike).
Yeah, it just deals normal combat damage. The only thing it would mess up is double-strike because the first damage phase has already passed.
Which also means giving that thing double-strike will cause funny interactions as well.
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>>97645959
shit, I used this one for fow, and used it against his other spell, and that one for some value critter
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>>97645796
Closed formats is the future of mtg, and the failure of pioneer and the uptick of premodern proves this
There's no need to expand eternal beyond vintage and legacy and while nobody likes "rotating" at first glance the truth is the average tournament grinder would be lucky to be playing for around 10 years before finally quitting the grind for good

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