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>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-r estricted-february-9-2026
>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-bet a-update-february-9-2026
>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander- brackets-beta
>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned
>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas
>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com
>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com
>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com
>Card search
https://scryfall.com
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Precons
https://magicprecons.com
TQ:
What's your favourite transform card?
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>>97630337
Transform cards belong in an incinerator.
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Why didn't we get Alopex
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>>97629888
Thanks for the recommendations Anon, just one more thing: what's GCs? I know B2 and B3 is like, level of competitiveness, but GC is an acronym I don't recognize lol
That should give you an indication how long it's been since I played lol
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I've transformed your cards into my cards in face down defense position.
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>>97630494
(NTA)
GC should be 'gamechanger', the weird restricted list that wotc maintains now. so for Kraj, stuff like Seedborn Muse, Rhystic Study, and Natural Order are restricted to "only three from this list" in bracket 3 and zero in 2.
"competitiveness" isn't the exact word I'd use, bracket is sort of a speed tier. bracket 3 expects to win a few turns earlier than 2.
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it's a little better than a Solemn's ramp since it's any Plains, but like Solemn I'd say only use if you've got ETB abuse in mind already.
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>>97630494
GCs are game changers. Rhystic Study, Fierce Guardianship, Worldly Tutor, and Cyclonic Rift in your list are on the GC list which is a scaling pseudo-banlist for lower power play. They're on the list either due to play patterns or power level, sometimes both. Bracket 2, which is around where your deck's power level is looking, allows no GCs. Bracket 3 which is a middle ground, think the old "my deck is a 7", allows three at most. Bracket 4 takes off the cap and is basically rogue cEDH where players are there to win by any mechanical means making the play patterns and power level no longer a problem of player expectations.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-bet a-update-february-9-2026
I'd give this a read to understand what the expectations might be if you play in a pod that uses the system for matchmaking. It's a good way to get up to speed on the general mood of the engaged playerbase too.
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Oh that's gay, my pod is high and low because we proxy (hence mana drain and cyclonic rift) but we're building midrange decks, just optimized/upgraded. So that probably effects the mental map I have on building tempo, because I'm grabbing the cheapest and widest targeting counter spells for instance, even though they don't really synergize. So based on the advice I got, I'd probably want to put GC engines like rhystic study on the back burner, hold onto my GC removal cards but expand those to be more deck centric?
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>new player at pod
>can i play proxies
>yeah sure
> its a expedition 33 deck
>what?
>its a saskia deck
>every card is a random character custom alt with no mechanical flavor or reason for it
>has isshin on it
>have to explain isshin and saskia do not work togheter
>plays ghostly prision and a bunch of pillow fort effects
>wines when i send a 9 double strike flier with infect at his face because his deck could never "do the thing"
Im not sure at what im more mad at, the custom alts that made reading the table impossible, the shit deckbuilding, or the cruiser mentality that though his shit will never be interacted with
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>>97630942
Sorry, feel the need to clarify: like the commander is Yahenni, but I'm not skimping on cards due to cost or power level because I know I want to pilot Yahenni and do Yahenni moves, not build any obscure uncommon commander and load it up with CEDH combos just to "have an X commander deck that wins"
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>>97630955
This is why I have a strict no proxy policy. If you play proxies when I say no, I ignore you cards. Simple as.
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>>97630942
Removal on the GC list is limited to stuff like free counterspells (arguably the cards that can come off the easiest since their impact is actually fairly low in B2), oppressively repeatable removal that invalidates swathes of the card pool when they're in play like Aura Shards and Orcish Bowmasters, Cyclonic Rift that reads decisively win the game on the last end phase before your turn if you left up enough mana, and exactly Farewell due to it being a near game reset in B2 where decks aren't typically resilient enough to bounce back fast enough to not add another hour to a game that should have been wrapping up. Free counterspells and Cyclonic Rift are some of the cards most likely to be fine on a per-playgroup basis.
Keep in mind the bracket system is mostly developed for LGSes and Command Fest events where the game is still being played casually but there's a high chance of a power level gap based on what each player's expectations are. It's a base for everyone to touch back on to prevent total mismatches. If your playgroup is having fun you can ignore it but the outlines are good for figuring out what kinds of designs players might dislike. If you're like me and card design is interesting to you there's a lot of good info in the articles and explanations.
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If I play this card and never lie will people give me the draw because I'm taking a moral action that ought to be rewarded by society?
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>brought my gruul cascade battlecruiser deck with ruby as commander
>no 1-3 mana spells
>win 3 games in a row
>last game everyone just scooped after I cascaded into 5 additional spells
>interaction to no end thanks to retardedlynstrong r/g etb and Attack creatures, board wipes on a stick etc
>all on a 120€ budget
>all without killing anyone before T7
>against $1k bracket 3 decks
lol
lmao
the most retarded deck I have ever played
opponents complained that I have too much interaction while being able to kill them all kek
>hurr sure there is no counter to what you do
megakek
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Mono blue 5 color is based
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nta but my friend is constantly making shitty custom-art-alter decks based on whatever fotm anime or video game he's autistically into.
I don't have a problem because they're always shit and I can just ask what shit he has does as he plays and before I consider doing anything, and it's not like there aren't hundreds of reskinned UB faux-proxies printed direct by WoTC now.
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>can't wait for the sequel!
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>>97631216
Oh man I've been playing my Blind Seer deck as mono blue the whole time. Silly me!
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>>97631171
nta but I literally did this
several times in a row
I even rewrote the text
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>>97631221
It is cute people think WOTC has the ability to unilaterally change a licensed characters weapon without approval. Bitch at Viacom. People here genuinely think WOTC gets the license and then just makes any artistic changes and the license holder has to deal with it.
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Oh, so if I put my Sword of Fire and Ice on my commander your monoblue deck won't be able to try niggering its way around color identity, since it clearly works the way you say it does.
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>>97631327
I play painters servant, any reaction? No, Okay, I win since now all of your decks are not legal because I broke their color identity.
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> opponent's commander is borborygmos, enraged
> i cast pithing needle naming 'Borborygmos'
> later on opponent casts his commander and activates the ability.
> I tap the sign
> He loads up 'Borborygmos' on scryfall and says this is what I named.
> Other opponents agree with him.
> He goes infinite and wins the game
Wtf
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You don't play magic.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/ZxBKKTX-ZU2WwrsKsi_yvg
r8 h8 ber8
I hate playing precons, but is this shit enough to be a 2?
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I support UB because it's the only way we can potentially get cute girls as commanders.
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>>97631931
as far as power level is concerned, yes it's worse than what you can play with out of the box
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>>97631936
correct
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>>97631936
You mean like all of those really cute April O'neil cards we just got, right?
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What kind of removal should I run with this guy?
ETB Destroy creatures like Alpha Deathclaw are so good because they can mount Gitrog, or just go in for a swing on the next turn if it's time to start closing the game out (unlike the 3cmc 6/6s which usually lack trample and have a downside that keeps them from attacking in the first place).
On the other hand, they usually cost 6 or 7 cmc and that's a lot of mana investment for a removal spell. I'd also need to carefully decide which of my lower cmc creatures to cut to make room for them, and that fucks up my curve pretty bad since I won't be able to get a creature on the field before Gitrog lands as consistently.
I usually build low to the ground decks with an avg cmc of 2 so I'm at a loss for how to build this guy efficiently.
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>>97632041
I just built her as a joke and she's one of my strongest decks.
It turns out monoblue having no combat tricks just means you build her as basic bitch voltron slop with the same equipments and enchantments as every other voltron deck, which is strong.
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>>97632115
This set is actually full of amazing mono colored commanders but blue in particular
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>>97632041
oh we know what side you're on don't worry
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>>97632139
Nah, solid bracket 3, maybe even low 4. I would not play this against precons.
You don't look like a threat at first but once you're drawing 10+ cards each damage step with unblockable, double strike, empyrial plate, inquisitor's flail, and blue's counterspells as backup, it gets hard to stop.
You've got the usual swords of this and that, swifties, commander's plate, draw and discard synergies, and with a couple of creatures that scale off of card draw you can easily take out two players in one go so you aren't picking players off one by one.
In some ways I'd say she's better than John Benton, but only if you're building her without a budget.
With a budget, she's not crawling out of bracket 2.
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>>97632171
>Nah, solid bracket 3, maybe even low 4. I would not play this against precons.
you don't know what you're talking about
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>>97632181
>What more do you want me to say?
as much as people say draw is the most powerful mechanic, it's actually not
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>>97632189
any deck can win after enough games of your opponents can get mana screwed, let's not get carried away here
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>>97632224
a lot of people think so too
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>TQ
>no one mentioned meld supremacy
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>>97632260
>Want to put the Might and Weakstone into a deck that isn't UW
>Can't because of the flipside.
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>>97632176
If you think a bracket 2 cannot beat a bracket 4 then you never played
Also if your deck has ANY interaction or powerful cards then it isn't a 1. 1=I run wood elemental unironically and all my cards start with A
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>>97632309
a bracket 2 deck can also beat a cedh deck, your point?
>reminder that bracket discussions imply LGS play (as that's what brackets are made for) so don't be surprised to get pushback on your pet deck's viability
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What is everyone doing tonight?
>figuring out what to cut in Yargle and Multani for a Fiend Artisan and Morbid Opportunist
>adjusting mana base for Progenitus
>adding one of my EDH decks to Archidekt
Might throw in a testing session between some of my decks too.
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>>97632325
Trying to build tmnt decks I like. Pizza face didn't work out. I think I have Mikey & Leo precon boys down to what I want. Kind of trying to make Mondo Gecko color hack work some how.
Gave up on Dark Leo and Shredder.
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>>97631936
want to be shown as something badass and cool, western man?
UB is the only way
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>>97632325
Ordered a bunch of shit, mostly new treatments for cards I already had in decks, but also the ATLA shrines for Go Shintai of Life's Origin.
Working more on Vihaan, Goldwaker and my Xavier Sal Mutate deck too.
If I get particularly frisky I might do some theorycrafting on new decks or reworking work-in-progress ones, but with the Hybrid Mana question settled for now there's not a lot of extra work to do for my existing decks. When TMNT hits there's like three singles that might go into Vihaan and Neerdiv, but that's it. We're in play-and-wait mode for most things.
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>>97632324
Definitely not pointless. If people even remotely follow them in building a deck and properly catergorzing it, it gives you a decent power level so you're playing against decks of similar power, which is what you want unless your a pubstomper.
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>Play Anje for months
>0% WR
>Pop off with AoI boardwiping then popping Grimoire to steal all creatures I killed
>mfw I finally get to feel what it's like to be the That Guy and ruining the game for everyone
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>>97631596
Personally I like the TierZoo video where he time stalled, then angleshot a win in draft then tried to act righteous about it.
"I didn't SAY I was casting Totentanz for a nonzero value. I just said I was casting it and didn't tap my mana until you responded. It's your fault for countering it!"
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>>97632325
Sleeving up the shork.
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>>97630352
How do you use double sided cards if you're running double sleeves? Maybe I'm crazy, but I double sleeve all my cards due to fear of some drunk spilling liquids on my stuff.
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For double sided tokens, I use clear sleeves.
For cards in the deck, I use clear perfect fits into toploaders; so I can just take them out of the outer sleeve, reverse them and put them on the table. It takes almost no time at all if you get practiced at it.
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That introduces air into the cards (between the outer and inner sleeves), and it's a bitch to press it out again.
>>97632397
I don't, but I've had the occasional close call at my LGS, or some gnarly fatso wanting to touch my cards to look at them (even after I politely say not to).
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>>97632374
It's quite simple. I remove the inner sleeved card from the outer sleeve and then...I turn it around and put it back into the outer sleeve
WOOOOOOAAAAAH!!!!
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>(even after I politely say not to).
As far as I am concerned this is not a thing in an active game. You can say no but I'm still looking at it or you can take it off the fucking board and shove it up your ass.
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>>97632416
Like >>97632418 said, it's to make money. They have WH figurines, some Gundam stuff, pokemon, mtg, and funko pops. Literally nothing sells except mtg singles and the soda/snacks.
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>>97632368
I really hate playing against decks like this. Makes it incredibly difficult to know what color the card is, what card it is, what it does, etc.
>reject modernity
>embrace tradition
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>>97632433
booktok saved barnes and noble fyi
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Show me a red fish creature card before this card came out. I'd be surprised if there was more than a handful.
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>a red card having a lot of blue colors? HELLO WOTC WTF?!
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>Show me a red fish creature card
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guys what red card is this? newfag here
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No I get your point and I don't like the color scheming either but there's absolutely no way to confuse the deck as being anything other than monored. The sleeves are red, the deck box is red, you can ask if it's red, I have monored staples in it. It's not a problem lol
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THIS IS A GREEN CARD YOU FAGGOTS
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guys what red goblin creature card is this?
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I'm reputed to be the unluckiest nigga in town when it comes to gamble. For that reason i didn't open a single pack in the past 15 years.
Wanted to test if the curse was still there and boughted a whole box of EoE. Wanted to maximize my chances with the best value set out there still on sale.
Guess what? Didn't pull a SINGLE shock, all my foils were shitty co/uncos, only 2 stellar sights borderless (a 5c hissing quag + 10c nesting ground lol), 4 penny bin mythics, and my most expensive opening ended up being x1 Consult the Star Charts.
>money spent : $160
>total value : $10
yup, i think it's still there.
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If i wanted to speculate i wouldn't have opened it in the first place. It's just... i knew i wouldn't get my money back mind you, i did it for the funit was horriblebut i thought that at least i could get few shocks for my piles yaknow..
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>>97632611
Given the pace of set releases and hasbros desperation and the general trend of FIRE design that was already happening I doubt very few singles will hold their value long term. Power creep is already down to a matter of months.
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What is the best elf commander now? What is the best mono green elf commander? Is it this feller?
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>>97632628
>very few singles will hold their value long term
it's not "very few" at all, as long as you can read the tea leaves regarding how wotc spends their reprint equity
generally speaking, look for
>casual "staples" that sell far more than what they're worth powerwise
>actually strong staples that see both casual and cedh play
>strong cards from popular UB IP
>strong RL cards
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>>97632605
aren't those horribly expensive? I have the matching salary of my Dolan Duck tier luck.
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I may be unlucky, but i'm not (too) stupid, what you recommand is all what i've done for the past 20 years. I've been sitting on my fair chair of old staples, dw for my collection. I just wanted to see if the curse is remained. It's unreal how potent it still is after so long, me think i'll never get rid of it.
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>>97632658
ok, i'm not to familiar with these jotc cash grab, do they have any liquidity tho? It's cool to get a pimped whatever, but if you have to sit on it for 2 years on TCG it's not especially alluring either..
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What the fuck
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>>97632687
Nostalgia boomers. At the LGS tonight I met some ratty looking old dude who must be about 50 and he was talking about how WotC really know how to hit "you" with nostalgia and he just feels compelled to buy UB.
They're a different fucking species. I know what UB set I would be weak for, but I still know that the damage UB does to the game is not worth buying it. This is beyond the UBfag, and even more so if he is in that xellennial age range, the first generation to never really need to grow up.
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It's still Lathril or Voja depending on which elves you want to play. For monogreen it's probably Lord of Leaves or Dionus, though I like Eladamri Korvecdal as a deck that looks like elves but is actually eldrazi.
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>This Joda deck is just a 2 bro
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>>97632729
>the damage UB does to the game
to this day i still have yet to see a stirring defense of the fine art that is UW
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still waiting on that powerful speech about UW btw
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>still waiting on that powerful speech about UW btw
Hear me Mardu, while our territories within are under siege by homosexual flying lizards and evil universes beyond, we shall prevail!
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>>97632899
your ancestor was a tranny
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It only requires red mana, but it has a water drop symbol on it... that means its color identity is red/blue right?
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>>97632937
Probably best you're going to do, since you can just degeng proliferate spam with him
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Trying to stay away from BG elves. Are any of the WG ones good?
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>>97632937
mutate this guy onto a small infect creature and do big poison damage.
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Its normal and fine for the LGS to carry diet coke. Ive never seen anyone have a close call with soda. This post was probably a false flag a.k.a. didnt happen btw. Propaganda from poopdickschizo who never plays at any lgs anyways
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technically no, pokemon can all have different resistances in the card game because the types are concatenated. bug and grass and sometimes poison are all grass, normal and flying are colorless, fighting and rock and ground are all fighting, ghost and psychic and sometimes poison are all psychic, etc. so weaknesses change to reflect the 'real' typing. the super weird bit is that a pokemon's outgoing damage is always the card type, ignoring if the move is a different type in the game and if it requires any other energy types.
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crazy person idea I had: dega superfriends using ghen, the main idea being that he can toggle spark rupture on and off to mess with people trying to get rid of your walkers
pros: good stax colors to maximize annoying everybody
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>>97633193
The Sultai deck from Tarkir but you probably won't be able to find it for a decent price. Mardu is a close second. The Final Fantasy 10 Bant counters deck is shockingly underrated as well since most of the new designs for that deck are bangers. For $50-60 it's an absolute steal.
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>Any recommends on what precons are actually fun?
i don't know what tickles you, but i do know what wins
>counter blitz
>world shaper
>blight curse
>sultai arisen
>animated army
>explorers of the deep
>veloci-ramp-tor
the fact that they all have green in them speaks to the foolishness of treating edh as a "let me do the thing" boardgame
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I bought the Turtle Power precon. There are a lot of interesting cards within it that I want to use. I want to fuck over combat states with Swift Demise, Coin of Mastery is something I was hoping for, Game Over is a playable black boardwipe.
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Is Glacier Godmaw the best haste enabler for a gw tokens deck? Gets hit by zenith / natural order. Fierce Empath (and therefore Woodland Bellower) grab it. 9 mana is harsh but doable. Also repeats if you have more lands later. It can be found / cast before you dump tokens.
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I think ninja pizza will be the only card worth $20 a month from now. Just cause it pairs with nuka cola vending machine too damn well. Obviously years from now when the precon becomes rare and IF they don't do secret lairs and reprints a few of the precon cards might jump back up as per usual. But I do like the direction of finally printing usable lands in precons. I'm not even a turtle's fan I just like go wide battle cruiser decks.
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Basically replacing all the bad tapped lands with the green shocklands like stomping grounds breeding pool etc. adding in reflecting pool and starting town keeping 2 of the rainbow tapped lands. And then cutting out the curve and adding obvious changes like harden scales, branching evolution. Cutting out the CMC bad draw with better draw like guardian project and inspiring call. Then throwing in nuka cola vending machine. And the only two TMNT set cards used is ghengis frog and Michelangelo weirdness to 11. With a dolmen gate to round out the go wide attacking. The commanders are Leo and Michelangelo.
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now you know in hindsight why gavin initially wanted to label b2 as "precon tier", simply because the majority of mtg players can't build decks better than a precon
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They really can't build better than a precon. The only times I see someone build a powerful deck is usually cause they copied it from someone else or found a list. Then proceed to bitch when I zap Smothe & Rhystic out of existence with barrier breach. It doesn't take a genius to figure out redundancy in a singleton format = consistency.
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Been brewing this hot cross species action. Pretty fun mono blue artifact/counters deck. Shocked they didn't put "One per turn" on them to kill it
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>meanwhile the party mechanic
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>a while ago
>4 players pod at lgs, decent game (35 min, fairly balanced game)
>sudden explosive turn from opp1 putting him way ahead, about to kill opp2, the second most threatening player by far
>opp3 and me are probably next on the chopping board the following turn, but we still have a fighting chance, game is not over
>opp2 can't save himself even though he has instant speed removal because of overwhelming attack of opp1
>before losing, uses his two removals on opp3 and me to make sure that we lose as well by removing key pieces on our boards
>all 3 of us ask him why he would do that. Maybe he wants to accelerate the game to play the next
>"Oh no i have to go, it's just so you can remember me :)"
>packs up and leaves the store
>we shrug and all agree to start a new game, win goes to opp1 for what it's worth
>a few minutes after he left opp2 starts sperging in the groupchat, saying that he won't come back because we're "questioning his game actions"
>It's been almost a year, he never came back
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Depends on the deck I guess. Some can still get some use out of him. I like him in Orvar as a way to dig through every basic in my deck once Orvar is doing his thing consistently. But in any of my other mono color decks I've never been able to justify the slot.
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Love meld. Just wish we saw it used more as a mechanic.
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Working on Tana and Sengir. First time trying partner stuff. I've got a bunch of jund stuff from other decks so it's mostly out of extras from other decks. So many options it feels like I'm always finding something I'd want to put in or swap out.
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>Way too slow
I forgot he was an end of turn effect. And a conditional one at that. I can see how that would be slow. Unless you're doing 1/1 counter doubling stuff I can imagine how he'd be slow. Like a slower Genova without the draw.
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We had to explain to him what a "spite play" was and he argued that it wasn't one, just a way to "unwind after a long day of work"
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>>97633195
I have no clue waht you are trying to tell me.
I like delver and the little storyline he has.
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Which one of these plains should I use for my Mirrodin themed shitpile?
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>>97633418
this is its only real competition other than crossroads
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Eldrazi checks players for whether or not they understand to attack resources (You must kill the thran dynamo). Slivers checks for having something other than wrath of god (and understanding the 5c deck has counterspells), and Dinos checks for a pulse.
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I am asking for assistance on what to cut to fit my maybeboard in.
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One guy brings his girlfriend to the local game store and he's the most insufferable sperg imaginable. Genuinely baffling. She's quiet and a little awkward but at least. Meanwhile he throws a tantrum in almost every single game I've seen him play. He got into an argument with one of the nicest guys at the store and ended up making an anonymous reddit post about it where he was the epic chad and the other guy was the weird incel.
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The LGS I go to said this is the worse pre-release event since Covid. Is this set a total bust already?
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>>97635436
Just one lgs owner probably lying, but who knows, I haven't bought any to confirm.
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>>97635458
>TMNT promos in ECL events
>ECL promos in TMNT events
>Boosters with no rares
How is WotC fucking up this bad?
Were the two sets hyper rushed to make time for max effort with Hobbit expecting Hobbit to be like LotR?
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>It is cute people think WOTC has the ability to unilaterally change a licensed characters weapon without approval.
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Time and time again lately Ive had games where I immediately know, sometimes before the game even starts, who the strongest enemy is. I will spend the entire game throwing every single resource I have against them and they will still win and its just wholeheartedly demoralizing everytime. Meanwhile my other opponents are always just clueless.
One time an obviously archenemy aristocrats player was spamming edicts and locking us all out (he won that game btw) and I play pic related to convince the others to target down all his sac outlets to slow him down, and the faggot playing literal spongebob Jodah picked a treasure token because "I dont like when people try to manipulate me". and "I think youre hiding something."
I just just want to find regulars to play with who arent braindead. I had that when I played back in college and it was fantastic, and i miss it, i miss it so much.
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>>97635537
Same. I really hate moving because every time, the quality of people I've played with has degraded. We used to do some awful things to one another, but we made the smartest plays. Now it's about feelings and shit and "why did you target me wahhhh"
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>>97635537
>Opp1 is playing reanimator, his board is protected with Avacyn against destruction, few other big and annoying creatures and Tefari master of time that he will use to take 2 extra turn as soon has he gets to his turn
>Told them when he played the tefari we need to get rid of it, but they didn't attack it when it could have been hit
>Have gravepact out
>I can remove 2 of the 4 creatures on his board his board with gravepact and my own spells, and then can hit the tefari enough that it will be dead hopefully after a full turn rotation, but I need them to each block one of my creatures so my creature will die. Tell them the plan, tell them its likely game over if he gets his 2 extra turns. I even offer to destroy my own gravepact afterwards
>They refuse and tell me they aren't going to risk anything of their own game plans
>They don't block, I pass turn, Opp 1 takes his two extra turns and goes infinite and wins.
I get that not everyone can read a board or keep track of everything in their head, but come on.
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anyone got some special sauce for playing him?
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>>97632278
>In the Commander variant, a meld card's color identity is determined only by the mana costs and mana symbols in the rules text of its front face. No symbols or rules text of the permanent it melds into are considered.
>>97632309
This is the dumbest fallacy people use here.
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She feels like the queen of angle shooting "technically bracket 3" decks. Probably doesn't hold up in cedh but damn she's fast and consistent.
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>>97635542
SE is very protective of the visuals they actually care about. Forspoken was a game they didn't care about made as an attempt to keep Luminous working while they tried to figure out a Western strategy. Turns out the Western strategy was releasing games that their Japanese directors actually wanted to make instead of attempting to directly appeal to an audience through corporate market analysis sludge their core audience was already rejecting.
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>>97636071
Yes Mr. Anon, everything is troons
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>>97636124
Brigid pays off higher as the game goes longer but Rofellos is able to start doubling your mana very early while Brigid needs more mana spent into creatures to really get going. She's more susceptible to interaction as well. I love them both though.
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>>97636208
Here's your commander chief.
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>>97633599
The issue is needing to sac something. You have to have a set up (that costs no mana) ready for his turn 4 or 5 appearance. So you need the correct hand. Otherwise, you maybe get him out on turn 4 and shit doesn't even start until end of turn 5 and you probably had to spend mana to sac some food or something to even do it.
If there is a way to make him consistently trigger when he drops, it would be better
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>>97636208
Cheap to build and very fast, fun if you like goblins and multiplication tables / counting up to 120 combat damage
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>>97634431
>Eldrazi
>Elfball
>Goblins (Krenko)
>Vampires (Edgar)
>Ur-Dragon
>Slivers
>Dinos
>Urza
Pretty much anything in the top 50 is likely to be a degenerate deck that goes 0-100 in a turn or two and makes everything else irrelevant, and it does this every single game. No variety. Basically just combo BS KOS generals. You play them and I'm trying to have a nice casual game with a bracket 2-3, I'm going to get the whole table to take you out by turn 5.
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Thanks, I'll take a look at both! Zada does seems pretty cheap, but he also looks like a huge target.
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>>97636208
this is a pretty fun deck, it's a higher 3 low 4. Can instantly win on turn 2 with no interaction, depending on your luck.
https://archidekt.com/decks/14041500/find_the_flame
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>>97636778
mono red self wheeling to proliferate/glinthorn/flux/terror/psychosis crawler with the added pleasure of pic rel if you want to do token shenanigans. looping path of the pyromancer etc
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uh oh, did I use a few cards outside of the cedh meta for the retards to not grasp?
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>>97636745
I hate when dorks organize their decks like this. Yes I know what your cards do, dont patronize me.
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>>97636819
Your initial posts admits ignorance due to your laziness
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>>97636745
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>>97636838
I’m going to fuck your whore favorite card game with my favorite franchises, and like a cuck, you will continue to browse these threads.
>>97636897
>forward thinking
>b3 meta
>edh
I’m impressed!
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>B3 meta
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>>97636972
everybody shits on simic but god forbid someone call that "meta" in b2 roru rumao
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>>97636971
The only time this deck would ever be izzet is if jill is the other commander with partner or something. Who actually makes a deck like that?
Why izzet? Why not just use two commanders with partner that do thing draw card and give me 4 colors?
I dont even run breach or the one ring after winning once with it. Thx for reminding me
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>Why izzet? Why not just use two commanders with partner that do thing draw card and give me 4 colors?
sometimes the commander is so good you can get away with fewer colors
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>be me, circa today
>cast tempt with mayhem and show and tell
>’it’s a 3 competitive’ player is salty that my group hug deck is letting the mono green ghalta deck to shit out dinos and beasts
>everybody loves his torment of hailfire infinite
>’I’m going to a serious table’
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>>97637057
Lives
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>the table after the hellbent control player top decks a 6th board wipe
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>>97637095
>cast so many boardwipes
>and yet the control deck's commander can't finish the game on its own
ngmi
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>>97637144
>wizards gets a fucking clue
the clue is to get better IP
>bonus points if it makes troons ACK
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>>97637214
>curious how it all pans out
i would really prefer anime given its undeniable selling power but given how we're in a "paramount" year (avatar, tmnt, star trek) right now it's not out of impossibility to be in a "wb" year soon enough so paramount can recoup what it spent in its recent hostile takeover (harry potter, dc, mortal kombat)
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>>97637226
March of the Machines was a pretty lackluster set that wrapped up a long story. Thought burning disappointment was metaphorical, but seems I was wrong. My apologies on your charred body, hope you can get skin grafts soon.
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>>97634083
what is it about older art that I find so charming?
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I'm considering getting in to MTG. I played this before, even arena, is commander the most fun? I hate that cards have rotation on standard. Problem is finding people to play with without spending 20$ on magic nights.
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>>97637522
The best thing you could do is buy a cheap precon that you're interested in and play at the casual/fun/precon tables at your LGS. Don't listen to people saying "eh this is maybe bracket 3" specifically ask for powered down decks if they're also not playing precons
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>>97637710
>Tourach
I don't play timmy shit
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>Triome that doesn't enter tapped
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>>97637864
Do you have some way to get back the mana you're now behind? Guess you could float the mana before dropping it, but you're still going to be down mana the next turn unless you've got some way to ramp back out.
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>>97637929
A spicy combo my friend put in his deck. Fucking destroyed us, it was incredible
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>>97637929
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Can anyone help me with my Shanid deck? I wanted to make a Legendary equip deck and its the remnants of my old Gwyn deck
https://archidekt.com/decks/20429591/shanid
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>TMNT collector boosters have a "commander card" slot and you can open trash like a fucking surge foil thriving isle in your 40 dollar booster's special commander slot
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Xisters, our response?
https://youtu.be/hyik3A3PEQU
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>>97638072
UB is a non factor when the in universe sets are also garbage. Lorwyn was full of tranny coded pandering cards and next in universe set is the retarded legally distinct Hogwarts plane.
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>>97638072
>oh look yet another video that won't even try to convince (You) to love UW
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>>97637864
I'd put it in with the rest of the bounce lands, where >>97637883 says. only run if you synergize with it somehow (landfall, catch-up ramp, lands in hand/hand size control)
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>guy plays ugin, spirit dragon
>-x for 4, nuking the entire board, including his own shit
>only thing left standing is my large army of artifact creature tokens
>he just handed me the win on a silver platter for no reason, before this I was kept in check by an opponents ghostly prison and another opponents blood artist effects
>everyone is like "uhm... why would you do that?"
>passes to me
>I capitalize on this breakthrough and swing to kill Ugin and a different player
>he flips out and goes on to a 5 minute rant about "uwwaaaa why would you do that aaaaaaa i should quit aaaa"
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I opened this. Wish I had a deck to put it in because the art is cool.
Last time I used this shit was just to be a degenerate combo fag
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>>97638164
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>>97638164
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>implying T&K aren't all running LED, sol ring, mana vault, mox amber and chrome AND opal
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>>97638492
This is the most busted and unfun and most green blue card I've ever seen.
>3 mana
>3/4 flyer
>not only has Coiling Oracle scry for being targeted by anyone, but it can happen twice a turn
>oh and it gives this ability to ALL your creatures
The fuck? I'm not for banning cards, but this is clearly a mistake. Same with Griselbrand.
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>>97638536
Nadu is more than a simple R&D embarrassment. Nadu inadvertently caused the entire RC fallout situation. He was such a blatantly busted piece of shit even the dormant RC woke up to ban him, got overzealous, and hit a bunch of stuff they weren't suppose to while they were at it. Whenever some retard is throwing shit around about brackets in these threads remember the bird, he is why we are here. He will never be unbanned but his presence is felt.
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The only reason the RC thing happened was because they banned some shit finance fags spent money on and said fags went apeshit. No other reason.
Nadu was also never even a major problem in commander. Go look at threads from then. No one was melting down over Nadu games. It got banned solely because it gave modern players PTSD
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>>97638522
I think it would've been workable if the ability was "whenever one of your creatures is the target of a spell or ability" so it can only trigger twice, and also cost 4.
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>aura
Griselbrand doesn't have aura either. The only profitable interaction with either is a counter spell. Bird people >>> generic demon.
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>hit a bunch of stuff they weren't suppose to while they were at it.
Retard
They banned exactly what needed to be banned, the issue is that mtg finance bros got mad and s bunch of redditors threatened violence
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>Wanna build an Abzan deck
>Look up commanders
>Literally only 24 options that aren't partners
What the actual fuck? How do we get a thousand new commanders per year, but still almost nothing in certain colour combinations?
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Didn't expect to like him that much but he's honestly a fantastic reanimation target. I have him in a deck with sacrifice, burnt offering, soldevi adnate, flare of malice, soul exchange and culling the weak. Curve is super low outside reanimation targets so generally get to cast several things per swing, and if you have any of the sacrifice rituals potentially just cash in undying to cast a reanimation target if you hit one.
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>>97638156
outrage and upset drives engagement.
Happy people and happy players go and play with their friends, tehy don't watch 40 hours of 'content' with ads for revenue.
It's also why most of the people here are miserable pieces of shit because they spend all day moaning about stupid shit.
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>>97639300
Why are you here?
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>>97639302
A long time ago I found this place looking for porn and now I shitpost during down-time on the toilet.
Also miserable players tend to post spoilers fastest because they spend all day refreshing websites, so I get to enjoy the fruit of some angry anon's efforts for the low low price of occasional racial slurs and terrible takes on magic.
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>>97638492
Nadu, renewed wisdom
Then just print his fixed card in paper that is only on arena.
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>>97639416
Iona is one thing but gavin is much less likely to unban a blue card that the majority of people will just turbo flip to make the table groan
It's not a power level ban, but an unfun ban (it also wont sell packs because flip cards are terrible to look at)
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>>97639240
Tapped lands of any kind are rough. You'll note the the scry lands are pennies by comparison. Surveil lands are expensive because dumping to grave is very good in some decks. If you don't care about putting things in your grave don't bother running them
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>>97639588
I always thought they should be pushing more lifegain matters themes into abzan since those are all the colors good at lifegain. But it's really only betor and bilbo right now.
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>>97639728
Sorry I was being a bit glib. That is the best way but no chance you have silica gel on hand.
Get 2 clean flat baking trays, sandwich the card flat between them, put a hairdryer on a medium low heat and point it at the baking trays
THEN you probably want to throw it in tupperware with silica gel just to be sure
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>>97639070
This guy as abzan blink was fun, no focus on infect just abzan go wide and blink
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>>97639807
Yeah after the meme/catchphrase cards we've gotten lately you're 100% right. It's gonna be the set's 3cmc black instant to kill a creature, isn't it? Bonus points if it does some Star Trek-specific shit like pic rel
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>>97639802
That's what I'm doing right now, with tissues on either side to try to draw out moisture. It's surprisingly intact thanks to the sleeve it was in, so keeping it flat is the only concern.
>>97639807
Personally I'm hoping for a Saw in Half special guest with Tuvix.
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>>97639903
I've said this a hundred times and there's always someone who will try to contradict me, but:
Politics is a new players fantasy. There is no such thing.
Ultimately players are going to do what is best for them in the moment. You're not going to convince someone to do something they don't want to do.
The only counter I have ever heard to this basically amounts to just tricking inexperienced players into playing sub-optimally.
I loaded my Eriette of the Charmed Apple deck with buffs as well of debuffs in hopes of enticing players to help me out in return for more buffs. But they've built their decks to work without assistance, so it's no great loss to them if they don't get my buffs and instead get debuffs, being targeted with negative effects is just how they expect the game to be played.
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>>97639070
Reject modernity
Embrace tradition
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Politics is literally just having this guy on the field to 1 for 1 any notable beatsticks while he passively grants you value with some sort of attack or damage trigger. In a multiplayer format it's basically always a better decision for your opponent to not take this trade and swing their 10/10 flier at one of your opponents instead or to not trade their commander and let this guy in for your curse of opulence trigger. Propaganda and ghostly prison are insanely good if you're in a combat meta, but people are a lot more aware of their value and will remove them. Politics is just being a porcupine and holding removal for any emergency threats that ignore your defenses while you assemble a wincon slowly. You figure out really quickly your opponents are very eager to kill themselves for you.
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>>97639929
Even experienced players will fall for "hey, I'll give you this +X/+X or some card draw if you deal with that permanent for me" if they think they can handle the repercussions. It's just playing a gambling game as to whether you think you stand to gain more than you help the politics player by accepting their help. Sometimes you can afford to and you come out ahead because the politics player gave you something that you actually needed and sometimes you don't because the politics player had followup that capitalized on the boardstate or safety they gained.
That is the essence of "politics" in commander; you hedge your bets and convince other players to do so not by lying but by giving them something they think they need when they need it. Optimal play is not always clear when there is hidden information, especially between four players. You can only play optimally with the information you possess, and not everyone can even do that. Politics is about preying on indecision and individual need in a given gamestate.
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>>97639970
Politics as new players imagine them don't exist; yes. A lot of players have a fantasy of being some kind of manipulative mastermind and that's just not going to happen with canny opponents.
Now, "Politics" does exist however, in the form of control and aggro management; the trick is that you aren't really giving your opponents a choice; you're either handing them things to stabilize them when they're going to lose (and thus they're not in a position to eliminate you) or you're giving out 'gifts' with the full intention of using that material to destroy them later.
>>97639970
Anon isn't wrong here, but that's more a case of "every deck is politics". Tempo as we know it doesn't quite exist in EDH, but there is an attention and focus meta that goes around based on what you play and how you play it. Managing threats for your opponents and pruning the game-board is an important step to securing a win; because otherwise you have to peel out as fast as you can and hope that's enough, because it if isn't the crackback will eliminate you next almost certainly.
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>>97639903
You play into it. Always be 100% open that you are politicking to your own advantage, but surely your opponents are smart enough and have built their decks well enough to capitalize on it too. That card you're letting them draw could be exactly what they need, the other guy's creature is the real threat right now, doesn't he have seven cards in hand? I really just need to draw enough to hit my land drop anyway.
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Politics as commonly thought of doesn't work, even in cedh
Politics is just shorthand for "ok we're in a mexican standoff/MAD situation, so let's make a draw"
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I'm pissed. all my friends got a job while I can't even get past the AI filter to get in to an interview.
they get paid thousands a month as they brag how they are basically doing nothing weeks on end.
and THEN they spend their money on nothing but secret lairs and any super limited products that are actively making the game worse for me.
I can't stop seething inside.
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>>97640224
dont worry eventually we'll have a market correction and their fake jobs will dry up and they'll have to wagie it like the rest of us. for now enjoy the fact their sedentary wfh lifestyle is rotting their health mentally and physically. im totally not seething too as a blue collar worker producing tangible goods.
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>>97640224
Christcuckery is pretty stupid, but there's a reason envy is a sin and one of the commandments was "thou shalt not covet", friend.
If I was terminally unemployed I'd have bigger concerns than my ability to buy fucking cardboard.
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>>97640038
I dont scheme, I dont table talk, I always make the corrct play, and I dont negotiate. When someone is about to win I'll explain all the answers I have and discuss if there is a way forward with the cards I assume in others hands as well as the answers in there decks.
This is the opposite of politics in my vibe.
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>>97637212
BTW the pre-release went pretty well, I lost the first match but won the next two. Not that many people actually showed up to the event but I had fun. Fuck Genghis Frog btw he's more than likely gonna be a staple in The Mothman decks.
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>>97640224
Dont feel bad. Desire less, free yourself from the auspiciousness of others. Do your best with what you have, and be open to the universe has to offer, then accept the blessings you recieve without any conception of good or bad, or better and worse. Cant control when the river floods, you can only prepare.
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>>97640224
https://mpcfill.com/
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>>97637332
it wasn’t just the older art.
the frame did wondrous to present it as a fantasy setting
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>>97640302
No that's just preventing somebody for winning, nothing more or less
People itt forget that politics is during peacetime and when you play edh it's a FFA to the death and any negotiation you do is basically just fog of war at play
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>>97640355
join the cult of Gut instead.
Veteran Soldier for a staxy version.
Agent of the Iron Throne for an aristocrat version.
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>initial deck is 200 cards
Gd
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>>97640302
Nah it's not politics because it doesnt benefit me and I'm not negotiating. There is no exchange, there is no parlay, I'm not hiding anything, I'm just explaining the situation. And most people who say that are lying; I would honestly prefer not to talk about it at all
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>>97640604
Cut 100 cards.
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>>97640665
>just cut 100 cards!
Not pictured is lifeline or angels trumpet
I’m trying to make a goad like deck with squall, but it also gives people their shit back if there is a board wipe.
Also I get to run bedlam and infinite hourglass
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>>97640644
Explaining a situation, your stance on it, and what you would like to happen is a form of politics as well. Basically anything that isn't just playing out your cards is a form of politics among the other players. You don't have to make deals or hide anything for it to be an exchange. Clarifying information on the board and attempting to influence decisions as a result is politics. And yes, clarifying and laying out information is inherently an attempt to influence decision-making.
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>Buy a random pack at walmart
>Say to my self, "I'm gonna crack brigid, I'm going to because the universe is going to make me build another fucking creature based/tribal deck"
>Sure enough, crack her.
Man. Only thing my dumbass can thing of is to make hydras
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how negro and/or duplicious would be trying to pass off an eshki deck that pretends to be another stompy only to whip out food chain and tutor-exile the infinite nigs into whatever big thing once i stacked up the woman?
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>>97640720
It's not cheapening what it is in the slightest. You're being reductive of the scope of politicking and what it means to interact with other players at the table with spoken word. You want to talk about trying to sound smart but all you've done is wax poetic about how you're above politics while engaging in them by another name.
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>>97640731
I have the piles sorted in terms of function, such as value, protection, goad, main engine, etc. Most of the big bombs you see will get cut.
Might put some krenkos in here, I am running wipes, like retribution of the meek
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>>97640764
Politics is all about managing the public affairs of a community, which could be between friends, family, town, or country
Saying you're conducting politics in total war where people that are trying to kill not just you but each other as well (and dont forget one of them could be nihilistic enough to have everyone die, like the player who's just in it for the lolz) is hilarious and only proves that you're a bona fide redditard
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>>97640770
I am aware of "piles" as a concept. But you're not dropping WWW6 on Blazing Archon unless you're cheating him out. Put him on the side and cut down to creatures P/T 2 or 3, in fact, maybe just 2 to start; you can pump Squall that way while still having him trigger his ability if you get hit with Single Combat or something.
There's no point discussing deck shape when you're nowhere close to putting those cards into the shape of a deck.
Also get Maha out of there; on top of being expensive it's making your goaded handouts easy to delete.
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>>97640801
Anon, politics are not merely a peacetime affair. War is a political affair in and of itself. Your prior example of teaming up to defeat a stronger opponent is an alliance, which is a political arrangement. You're just sperging out based on an erroneous definition of politics because you don't like the word for some reason. That entire second line is just nonsense capped off with a buzzword.
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>>97640855
You naivete betrays you, as if every one of your opponents are rational enough to be politicked, or that every person is rational to begin with
>war is a political affair
Lmao war is the end result of a failure of negotiations and a return to might makes right, according to you predator and prey "politick" among themselves, as if the strong actually need to defer to the weak
I can already detect your political opinions btw good job anon lol
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>>97640897
Nigga I don't vote blue I play blue. If you ain't gonna talk about cardboard you came to the wrong neighborhood.
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>>97640896
>opponent attacks me
>ask him if he’d like to bargain
>opponent says ‘I’m not into politics’
>swords his commander
>cast secret rendezvous
>another opponent taps on his copy of ‘art of war” by sun tzu
>since the non-political player can’t be negotiated with, conspire the table against the madman
>guy scoops ‘I’m going to a real table’
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>>since the non-political player can’t be negotiated with, conspire the table against the madman
>nah man actually i'm just going to blow up the board with ugin
>>97638168
>your political ambitions - and your life too - end in a whimper because you failed to realize it's a FFA to the death vs people of varying intellect and not parliament
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>>97640880
>a failure of negotiations and a return to might makes right
Which is itself a political event. Negotiations breaking down isn't the end of politics. It's a transition into the next phase of the political spectrum. A free-for-all is still political because players will be driven by their means and methods that inform their opinions.
A death match isn't without political leaning and denying that it is is a failure to understand the underlying motivations of those involved.
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>I swords his commander
>He redirects it to mine
>I cast Secret Rendezvous
>The person I targeted looks at me like I'm retarded
>Rapidly lose control of the game
>Start yapping to try and salvage my position
>Nobody listens because they're uneducated peasants that don't understand all war is politics
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>>97640979
We're humans, anon. Calling it a matter of predator and prey is reductive of your human nature. The moment you sat down to play cards isn't an entry into a "death match" as you like to call it. It's a game where people can and will make concessions based on incomplete information and their assumptions of it.
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What do you guys think of this card idea?
Dark Tournament
BBBBB
Sorcery
Each player exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile total mana value 10. The player that exiled the least amount of cards this way may cast all of those cards by paying the total life instead of their costs.
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>>97640707
No, it's not. It's accepting the game's going to end, and discussing if anything ca. be done to stop that, or if we're scooping. You are a sneaky unlawful man, I understand, but at that point the game is over and someone is going to win and it's the last bit of the game; not politics.
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>>97641030
Seeing if anything can be done and making agreements to leverage remaining resources is a form of negotiation. I don't know why you're being so dramatic over it. There's no attempt at being sneaky. I am agreeing to the open presentation of information and fairly discussing what is on the table. Assessment and attempts to continue the game with what is available is politics. If three players use their combined resources to kick back the winning player, then they successfully aligned. Discussing available resources and using them in concert is politics.
Why does the word itself rub you the wrong way?
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>>97641046
>Why does the word itself rub you the wrong way?
It's not that we're mad, but rather we find you amusing for being a classic case of dunning kruger
The game only knows 1 winner and 3 losers, it doesnt reward you in any other way that would make politicking make any sense like it does in real life; in practice actual politicking in mtg just leads to collusion for top cuts
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>>97641126
Then consider this example
>player A has two 4/4s
>player B, on 6 life, has a Lightning Bolt in hand and no blockers
>player C has a Viscera Seer and the remaining pieces of their combo in hand as well as a known relevant piece of instant-speed removal
>A swings out at B, expecting to take him out of the game
>B cannot remove either attacker and will surely die
>B, knowing C has removal, asks that he spend it on one of the 4/4s
>if he does not, then B will spend the Lightning Bolt on C's Viscera Seer on the way out
This is a political scenario that is not impossible. You might read B's actions as spite, but it would legitimately keep him in the game. How would you resolve this scenario or any similar one? And before you ask, no, you don't have it.
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>>97641182
>if you dont save my ass i'll ruin your board on my way out!!
Lol is this best you have?
That's just your enemy holding your precious thing hostage just for the sake of staying alive
But keep in mind you want him dead anyway, and you dont negotiate with terrorists terrorizing your creatures/"citizens", so there is no politics involved at all
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>>97641182
Oh, you're an idiot. It's "this guy's combo is on the stack, have one stifle that wont work" and someone else says "yeah I'm done, got nothing" and the third person says "well, I've got a counter, but we gotta see if he has protection". That has nothing to do with whatever you're saying.
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Your entire retard post right here. A situation where any of that matters is so low impact and trivial it's a waste of your time entirely to care beyond making a choice. No arguing, no lobbying. Everyone has the same info, peole can do what they want and it doesnt matter. In the same situation I just dont care? Let them do want.
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>>97641309
Except player B did make it a political matter by asking for help. You can stonewall him, but he still attempted to make a deal. Take it or not, he involved you in politics.
None of that is cheating. It's an attempt at engagement to save his board.
>situation where any of that matters is so low impact and trivial it's a waste of your time entirely to care
It's the difference between untapping with a piece of your win condition and not. That isn't "low impact." Calling that low impact is just admitting you don't care about the outcome of the game or don't have a vested interest in trying to sway it one way or another.
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>>97641324
I dont care? Do whatever. Which guy am I again in your autismal hypothetical?
>>97641325
Do what you wish, if the whole table isnt trying to stop me I will win. And if you tell someone to do something wrong then look like an idiot no one will listen to you again.
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>>97641138
I was able to get a ton of cards for a Toph Metalbender deck down into a couple of packages from TCGPlayer's "optimized" ten packages and I felt like a god. Too bad I'm regretting buying that stuff since I realized I'd just be building another landfall deck.
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>>97641831
Different shape and size probably but they're all neoprene with rubber backing if that's what you mean.
I bought a cute one and now I feel bad playing with it cos I don't want it to get dirty or get dry-erase marks on it
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>>97641969
It comes across as trying too hard. Like he doesn't think he'll win if he's not playing the best cards, but he's too much of a poorfag to own as many of them as he needs so he just buys shit like battered OG duals and then proxies a Cyclonic Rift for every deck
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>>97642020
He's the guy who posts children on UB cards and says how sexy they are. You'll know him from his other replies such as
>saying "UW" to mean "in-universe"
and responding to posts he doesn't like with
>[X] melty
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