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Abhuman Edition
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>thread question:
Which subgroup deserves a new model the most? (Not full factions like Dark Mech, more like Tanith, etc.)
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Let Choasidolstake this thread!
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I think beastmen are cool and wish they got more attention. If I ever do a chaos army, it would be a Word Bearers warband that specializes in recruiting disenfranchised beastmen with the end goal of launching a goat jihad against the Imperium.
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I know practically nothing about SoB, but I figure this is the kind of shit they get up to.
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>>97926545
>TQ
I want a squad of Felinid women for astra militarum. More abhumans in general really.
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repostan my collage entry
how's yours going, anon?
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>>97926577
He'll walk it off.
Painter's Discord link for that person who asked for it last thread:
https://discord.gg/ukwWqmzK
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>>97926571
still in progress sadly
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>>97926572
My first model
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>>97926571
All finished up
I'll probably give the base a quick rimming tomorrow
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>>97926571
Not for a collage but back to painting Repentias
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>>97926589
My second model, am I improving?
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>>97926545
Has any 40k autist ever made a diorama inspired by Kris Kuksi's "mixed media assemblage" dioramas?
If so can pics of it be posted, please?
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>Though Librarians of many Legions possessed similar psychic might, their abilities were disciplined, carefully controlled and honed to be a tool of the Imperium. The wanton fashion in which the Thousand Sons wielded their psychic energies showed no such restraint, and the effects they achieved were far more terrifying.
It's kind of funny how biased the recounting of history is in the codexes
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>>97926598
Decided to update it, I don't know how to use technical paints but I like this mud effect I did.
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>>97926731
Okay.
So I suggest that you paint the entire mini with a base coats before applying contrast. Now if speed is your goal here then you can continue just relying on the primer. However a basecoat will help smooth out the primer as white primer can get chalky.
If you go with the base coat route, I recommend using pink if you are using contrast yellow, picrel. You can even attempt getting into dry brushing white on top of the pink to save time on highlighting after the contrast.
But you are on the right path. Just keep at it and more importantlypaint your bases
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>>97926765
>white primer can get chalky.
That's mainly due to bad application, if you ever have issues like this when priming minis just shake the primer even more and never spray in direct sunlight so it doesn't dry out before hitting the model, also flicking motions so you don't over apply and clog up details.
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>>97926821
i wouldn't call you a trog, but it sounds like you submitting yourself to a lot of unnecessary suffering and paint rub off.
Would you mind posting some of your minis, i'm interested in how well you're surviving with out primer.
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>>97926571
It's very close to being finished, I just don't know what else to add to it
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>>97926869
dumb people ask chatgpt and believe the hallucinations.
smart people know that any image or pdf could be doctored by ai so they don't even bother.
gw playtesters and employees that used to leak the rules are fired.
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>>97926899
>gw playtesters and employees that used to leak the rules are fired.
i'm still mad that GW didn't do the bare minimum of sending out watermarked copies of the rules when they were working with 3rd parties to play test new rules, now we're stuck with retards that can barely play 5 games a week as their job.
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>>97926869
It pains me to say that this new boxset will probably be one of the worst in a long time. It says a lot when the idea of new Grots is probably the most appealing feature. New orks are good, but I haven't enjoyed many of the sculpts so far.
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It's coming together lads.
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>>97926765
So if it's not storming tomorrow, I go to GW to buy a base paint to use Yriel Yellow on. I'm already priming with White Scar, my only issue besides trying to know if I thinned the paints is being able to see any changes after putting on Yriel Yellow after I used Iyanden Yellow.
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>>97926911
I think he's right. Indomitus actually had a pretty good spread of minis. Leviathan was carried by terminators and the nids. Armageddon's attempted selling point is... some helmets. The nuOrk design looks like Generic Copyright Avoiding Space Green Guy a 3rd party seller would try to sell.
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Why is his yellow so much brighter compared to mine? Is it because I keep dipping my brush into the contrast because I keep thinking my brush is running out?
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https://youtu.be/Zvs7rG1hbAQ?si=ha11YK3B53OiFveA
I think it's because he primed the model grey instead of white. Should I buy a grey base paint tomorrow.
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>>97926545
This abhuman is my favorite, she's so cute.
>>97926719
5 hours is fine. I consider about 2 to be the absolute minimum I'd spend painting a normal mini. You can do it faster, it would just be getting into slopchop territory for me. 5 is decent, and 10+ is like a paint job I'd be happy with. It can change a lot depending on the model though.
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AI generated base.
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>>97927011
I think the white primer is a better choice since it makes applying yellow much easier in the long run.
If you want to darken your yellow before you apply the your layer of yriel you could try shading the mini after the contrast, maybe with something like a sepai wash, or go with a darker yellow contrast paint.
you're current recipe is looking good so just tweak it and experiment with small changes first, don't stress out too much about getting it to look exactly like a tutorial.
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>you're current recipe is looking good so just tweak it and experiment with small changes first
Unfortunately I legit cannot tell the difference between Yriel Yellow and Iyanden Yellow. What's a darker yellow contrast so Yriel Yellow can stand out more?
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>>97927043
honestly i think if you're getting good results with the contrast yellow you don't need to worry too much about the yriel yellow step, but it'll will be useful to have on hand since contrast doesn't work the best over large smooth areas so you can use the yrial in place of that.
If you like the colour but want more definition in the crevices I think the next thing you should look into is recess shading, like what some anons said last thread.
here's a vid on that, as well as a comparison pic of the contrast yellows
https://youtu.be/ejXlcA1Mjs4?si=Oyfl_vkdXMprJEj9&t=124
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>>97926560
>disenfranchised beastmen
Ungor kitbashed to have cultist weapons would be the best fit for this imo, with a few Fellgor in the list too.
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Does anyone have this black and white drawing, I think it was from 80's White Dwarf, it was "What if Warhammer but SCIENCE FICTION?", with a knight shooting a stereotypical raygun. I can't seem to find it again no matter how much googling I've done
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similar boat, back when plague bearer spam was really good back in 8th i wanted to convert my own pestigors for proxies to run alongside my tzaangors, but a tourney popped up and i needed them quickly so i just got regular plague bearers, but now that there's an actually plastic pestigor kit i can't run allies anymore...
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>>97927066
Speaking of cultist weapons, did they really have to send the heavy stubber to legends?
It's the only special weapon that Traitor Guards didn't get.
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40k needs more random dudes and aliens and random squads
But then, GW have actually being doing that, but the combination of GW's plastic manufacturing capacity, FOMO hype/whales and release cycles means they're just not readily available.
I can't just buy the Elucidian Starstriders, you can't just buy the plastic Zoat (I know, it's coming back for another limited period soon but it's literally been like 4 years since Blackstone Fortress)
So they need to do it in metal lel, so miniatures can be sculpted and cast in the same week with a mention in White Dwarf like the old days. And you can buy 1 or 2 guys out of the catalogue without the need for a £100 "HQ" box
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>>97927095
What's that? You want more tzaangors? You got it!
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>>97927125
ZOAT!
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>>97927128
i'm fine with that
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>>97926554
FYI artist that drew this pic is woke, and has drawn this masterpiece
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>>97927141
This was a parody, r-right?
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97927137
if you're apply over the entire model either Seraphim Sepia or Reikland Fleshshade(reddish).
Agrax eathershade is always a useful shade to have since it's darker so can work as either a full shade over or yellow or just a recess shade.
Nuln Oil is good, but since it's a black shade going over yellow you may only want it if you're doing a recess shade.
i'd lean for eitehr Agrax or Nuln since it's useful over many colours.
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Do we get to see the perspective of Angron in this book since a lot of books like to swap between characters? Or is he more akin to Godzilla or some shit?
I remember asking this last night but I was so tired I don't even remember the answer. All I remember was he's not in the book much. I just wanna know if we get to view his perspective as we get to see Fulgrim's in his own book.
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>>97927141
>woke
Maybe? That looks like something I'd draw as a shitpost to mock woke folks. I know there's such a thing as "macro-fetishism," but this picture just looks silly to me. They definitely committed to the bit.
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That's an interesting effort post on their part in either case. They went out of their way to tick all the boxes.
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>>97927161
Speaking of books, how do some books get limited edition versions? Do they just release them along side the book or does the book have to sell well enough to garner a limited release? Because Voidscarred by Mike Brooks has one and I know damn well that shit barely sold.
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>>97927148
at the very least they should rework the sprues so there are either 10 models in the box, make each variant a single box without all that shit, or rework SoS datasheet and don't make them 3 separate units
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>>97927166
10 models in the box sounds wonderful. James Workshop will get right on it.
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>Tarellian isn't on a separate sprue
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>>97927188
Thousand Sons
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custodes
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>>97926554
fuck off from this thread and stop posting guillimanxyvraine. 40k is a grimdark horror franchise.
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>>97926911
In my opinion, the miniatures are fundamentally boring. The intercessors are just intercessors but with a few new bits. The jump pack marines are a straight up downgrade in every conceivable way. The new speeder is literally going to be a model that already existed decades ago but new! The aggressors are going to be old aggressors but new gun, and the characters will be characters we already have (ancient, apothecary but new!).
The ork side has a little bit more going for it, but unless it pulls some slammers, it's going to be a shit box. New plastic warlord that is meh, new ork boyz that are mid, the walker thing in the trailer looks stupid. The grots and wartakk (if they are coming back) might improve the box to be purchasable. Moreover, same characters we already have (new painboy, new wagh pole etc).
Now, lets compare this to 8th, 9th and 10th edition.
- 8th brought Primaris (regardless of your views) and this brought in a lot of new miniatures. Death Guard were finally fleshed out as a proper army with a large diversity of models and it's own codex.
- 9th edition revamped the old Necron range which was visibly outdated, and added many new cool models and concepts (new destroyers types, canopteks, HQ types etc). Marines received lots of new unit types such as Blade Guard, Outriders, Assault Intercessors, HQs etc. Marines were arguably the weaker side of the box.
- 10th edition revamped Tyranids. They got replacements for all of their old models and lots of new cool ones (Psychophage, Screamer Killer, Neurotyrant, winged prime etc). Marines got the weaker side, but still got a new dread and new terminators.
The 11th edition box by comparison offers little. Yes, orks are getting a (mid by appearances) revamp of some old models, but Marines seemingly get little by comparison. Some are replacements for plastic models we already have, or models GW sought to get rid of originally. The model showcases thus far have made me enthusiastic about the box.
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>though
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>I use though at the end of my sentences
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>>97926571
>so, what’s dis supposed to be?
>well… me and the ladz was finkin’ on it… and it might be to put up your ass.
>up your ass?
>ya, ya, so they look like one of dem furry squig fings these beakies like… dere, w- wulps, wul-
>wolfs
>roight, dere wolfs
>huh, well, I’ll think I’ll take the beakie sholder armour, and I’ll take dis wolf fing, I could use it for Pork, love her tah deff, but she’s been crapping in my bed all at nite.
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Tau is popular enough to deserve Farsight Enclaves as its own separate codex.
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Why do so many vidya game devs try and make 40k soundtracks (which end up getting played in stores) when NIN already gave us the perfect 40k soundtrack in 1996?
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>>97927247
>40k and quake united
I kneel.
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If they gave rules for the Eight again that'd be neat, but honestly if farsight enclaves just got their own detachment that's all they'd really need.
If they made Xv8's Battleline like how they were troops back in the 6th ed supplement it'd be cool, but since their datasheet is already split up into 4 different ones it not really necessary, so maybe just increasing their OC so it'd be more like when they were ObSec.
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>>97927271
You're gonna have to ask google about that. I've never posted on Reddit, and the few times I visit the site it's because it the top result on google for solving some kind of problem. Could it be that it's one of the most popular forums among men aged 20-40 with an image function?
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>>97927234
>I use however at the end of a sentence, however.
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Post WIPs.
Trying to make a 'tribal' marine. Need some ideas of armour patterns (You can loot whatever native culture there is. Bonus points for maximum cultural appropriation).
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>>97927258
>rapehons
several. all 6'0"+ and dress like grannies
there's a cute asian ftm too
>passoids
none that i can tell. there was one i thought that passed very well but then it turned out she was actually an ugly autistic woman with a bad fashion sense
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Spiky guards
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psssh...nothin personnel...kid...
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>>97926560
I finished reading picrel recently after it being mentioned when the topic of felinids arise and I must say abhumans, mutants and beastmen are underutilized in 40k. I'm tired of
>good human vs bad human vs chaos human
I think the problem isn't a warhammer exclusive one but rather a general drought in good writing, probably because of corporate micromanaging/design by committee
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>>97926577
Killed by walker, become walker
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>>97926571
Gonna finish the build and prime today
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>>97927370
Imagine
>HH brings back mk4 dreads
>slightly scaled up (or not)
>fully posable
Also I love the seismic hammer design
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>>97927430
that's a new terror tactic
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>>97927349
halflings in blood bowl. she's the only BB player i know who isn't a turbo grog
>>97927355
almost certainly yeah
testosterone wrecks women rapidly and she hasn't changed visibly in a few years
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>>97927430
>Not flirting with 1ksons twink
ngmi
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>40k 12th edition drops
>wargear is added back
>but you're limited to 3 special/heavy weapon types for each detachment
>Picked hellblasters? Plasma, that's one.
>Picked eradicators? Melta, that's two.
>Each faction gets one "free" weapon type
>Guards get las, marines get bolt, eldar gets shuriken, etc.
R8 how mad/bamboozled you'd be
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I am more than a little amused watching Guard, Orks, and Space Marines all getting a bunch of elf bullshit tricks with insanely fast threat ranges right after the elf tricks all got nerfed into the ground. Space Marines in a land raider can have a threat range 1" shorter than Wyches do in Spectacle of Spite. That's pretty whack.
Faction identities become less meaningful by the day as Detachment bloat just makes factions start copying each other's homework.
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>>97927477
I still don't understand the point of detachments.
If it was simply different force org chart to balance/limit bullshit I might understand, but instead it's just special rules tacked on top of your armies.
>detachment rules
>stratagems
>special characters abilities
Are we MtG?
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>>97927370
My brother. Hopefully castraferrums get good rules in 11th. What they did to them in 10th was criminal.
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>>97927484
>Faction identities become less meaningful by the day as Detachment bloat just makes factions start copying each other's homework.
I do think it's funny that sisters got an exact copy of a space marine detachment that space marines don't even consider worth using, but the sisters version had to be nerfed because apparently it's too strong (but not for space marines).
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>>detachment rules
>>stratagems
>>special characters abilities
Now you have to do your homework before you play, it's kind of annoying. I keep forgetting random rules because there is so much of it and in the context of a fast-ish game it's even harder to remember them.
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>have a second hand looted rhino that is in dire need of a new paintjob (currently painted in what looks like Croatian flag colours). Want to use it for a trukk proxy (will need to be slightly modified to be similar to trukk dimensions)
>have a trukk that's half painted
I'm more keen to strip the rhino and start over again than to finish the trukk, is there something wrong with me?
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>>97927514
Space marinee actually have a lot of bullshit Detachments that you will never see or have to worry about because Gladius (and Stormlance) is so damn good that they don't even want to play with all their toys even as Daddy keeps giving them new ones.
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>>97927447
I don't understand why so many people think classic dreads need to be scaled up. Is it primaris brainrot? The standard dread isn't supposed to be bigger than a Leviathan. Redemptors can work as the 40k cheap version of Leviathans since they can't make them anymore while the castraferrum should be the standard cheap version of the contemptor.
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>>97927517
That's exactly what I hate about card games.
Card games are fun when you have two simple decks or decks you don't know yet/can't pick and you make due with what you have.
The alternative is playing against bullshit combos because that's what people are rewarded and incentivised to do. Same goes for 40k now.
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>>97927530
Nigga I play MtG and 40k.
>>97927533
Easier than 10th? Not really, same ballpark.
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>>97927536
Well the previous owner did that with another model, theres a falcon stuck on top of a trukk. It look fuckin ridiculous and I don't know what was going through his/her head when they did it, i like a kitbash but thats two ruined models right there
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>>97927538
Because marines got scaled up. Have you seen the size difference between a 2nd ed marine and a 7th ed marine? Let alone a nuHH marine.
I'm not saying it should be bigger than a levi, but if it's not adjusted it's not gonna look as good.
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>>97927548
I created combos back about 15-ish years ago, and people ran off with it and got shit banned.
Never going back. Sticking to my custom Tribal+Commons+60decklimit(no sidedeck) balanced decks I make for people to pick one and play with me.
>every deck is sub20 bucks usually
>spend 160 dollars or so, people have fairies, birds, goblins, etc to have fun with
That's real MTG sir.
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>>97927214
we can have both. you can enjoy both.
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Space Wolves are based on the barbarian archetype and take inspiration not just from the vikings but also the celts, the scots, etc.
Why the fuck would their hair colors be limited to literal animal wolves? What the fuck are you on about
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>currently painted in what looks like Croatian flag colours
could you post that? sounds very cool
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>her
there’s like a 0.001% chance it was made by a girl.
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>arrgh mi'laddie
>we have wolves among us
No, you don't.
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>Prayer of the day:
>++ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. ++
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Yvraine gets captured by a radical Inquisitor who surgically dismembers her and depirves her of her senses before taking her back to Terra with the intent to feed her to the Emperor, believing it will have the same effect on him as the miracle on Guilliman.
The inquisitor actually succeeds in getting her into place, but when the daily 'feeding' begins Ynnead is immediatelly subsumed by the Emperor to no effect, and Yvraine is left alone trapped in her limbless, sightless, and deaf body for the scant few moments it takes for the process to burn her soul away into oblivion. In the end her only solace is that her death is final, rather than the endless torment that would have awaited her with Slaanesh.
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stories about how she's running a death cult whose failure to procure the macguffin croneswords likely means that the next best solution (and the reason why Eldrad, Yriel etc have abandoned the Ynnari) is to start killing as many eldar as possible to empower Ynnead and fulfill the original prophecy, actively fighting for the Eldar's extinction in the vague hopes that it'll kill Slaanesh and ensure that the eldar can reincarnate again somehow. Have Yvraine partake in horrific sacrificial rituals against other eldar and maybe even humans, misinterpreting Eldrad's "the fates of humanity and the eldar are intertwined" prophecy as "cool, maybe we should sacrifice billions of humans to Ynnead since that's basically worth a single eldar life in our view." Whole worlds sacrificed. A terrifying fusion of Craftworld Eldar and Dark Eldar into a death cult led by a crazy witch who is cutting ties with everyone around her in the name of a vague and nebulous prophecy revolving around death.
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I wrote >>97927656 and your shit sounds retarded, bro. The setting's about entropy, not rape.
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my gut instinct is that women who decide to go ftm or nonbinary are the ones that don't feel feminine enough for some arbitration reason (usually media exposure) and decide to just opt out
that and they usually have autism
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Well it's better to throw eldar a bone and have the nihilistic death cult be a nihilistic death cult instead of "okay so the ynnari are getting squatted so we can power boost the emperor lmao" that's just more HFY wank that's ruined the setting enough already
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>integrity
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>>97927420
So whats the plot of pic related and how it relates to 40k
>Good abhuman vs bad abhuman
I totally agree with you, mutants and abhumans are like the main bad guy and enemy for most imperial citizens. Forget nid hive fleets, ork WAAGHs, expanding Tau, deldar raids and all other xenos, or the threat of chaos and daemons. To the average imperial on a 'peaceful' world its the abhuman and mutant they fear. I can see the PDF (remember them? God knows GW don't most of the time) having all their *big* wars being putting down mutie and abhuman rebellions and uprisings. With support from the general population despite all they want is to be treated as equals
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Not even anchor post time and we already have like 10+ finished space wolf getting rekt entries, nice
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>"okay so the ynnari are getting squatted so we can power boost the emperor lmao"
See that's the really grim part, it doesn't actually change anything.
And who gives a fuck about Ynnari being a death cult? Their book series already flopped and got cancelled because nobody cared.
It's not like giving the Eldar a plot will actually do much.
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>And who gives a fuck about Ynnari being a death cult?
Me, I want to see them RAZE WORLDS and TEAR APART their vague alliance with Guilliman. I want to see humans and eldar alike sacrificed in grisly mass murder rituals to empower a death god that is unlikely to actually save anyone, let alone stop Slaanesh. I want to see whole worlds reduced to Beksiński hellscapes, shrines to Ynnead, skulls bedecking the ancient eldar death worshippers who brought doom to its people. I want to see an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
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Still don't think castraferrums need a rescale. Both them and helbrutes work well with the new infantry scale.
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Do all Space Marines have hidden potential, or only some?
For example, is Ragnar Blackman special because he's a Space Marine, or is he special because he's Ragnar?
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>plot
Protagonist is amnesic, wakes up in a caged hospital room, shit hits the fan as he and female interest get attacked by doberman-man-thing, learns that he's part of the same project that turned a dozen willing participants into animal-hybrids.
I won't go into more details because the story is about mystery, discovery, life, etc. Lots of action, gore and typical japanese shenanigans.
Character designs are great, it's a manga so you also get creator's notes which I found really interesting.
On a side note, while in the west we're sort of limited to furries, which are themselves extremely limited as 99.9% of people use them as "humans but they look different"/personas, but in Japan/China/Korea, etc. they are much more experimentative with the idea of human/animal characters. Very often they'll tackle things like
>the soul
>the nature of man
>the universe
>nature
>destiny
while in the west animals are gonna be about
>mu racism and stereotypes.
In short: I find that asian stories are more universal and human, while western stories all serve the author's personal (social) gains.
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I do like them being small, but I think now they're too small. Agree to disagree
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Special because he's Ragnar.
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Commissar (Krieg kit but tank commander head)
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>Commissar graves
>half her face is cut off
Tell me this is real.
Also her command squad is so fucking boring it's crazy, it's the same cadian helmet and shoulder pads, with the designated commissar breastplate design (same as the krieg junior commissar, for instance). They look like a cheap 90s movie costume and not in an endearing way.
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>>97927680
i think about half the people who do models for the collage don't post wips before the deadline so it's possible this will be the biggest collage ever
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>>97927691
Eldar should do it, too! The more the merrier!
>Chaos turns worlds into daemonic hellscapes
>Orks turn worlds into endless shrines of war after slaughtering everyone there and/or reducing those who can't fight into livestock
>Tyranids and Leagues of Votann strip down worlds to the bare rock for consumption purposes
>Necrons kill and/or enslave everyone and turn worlds into monuments to themselves, mindless hordes of automatons ruled over by insane, degenerated elites
>The Tau turn those who comply with their conquest into smiling, complacent thralls while slowly replacing them, and those who resist are quietly brutalized behind closed doors for the Greater Good. (this is admittedly the least nightmarish fate)
>Eldar...uh...well, sometimes the evil ones kidnap and torture a bunch of people, but the rest just...uh...well I guess they kill a few people then fuck off?
eldar stand out here in a bad way
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>Special because he's Ragnar.
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>>97927697
For every Ragnar there are a dozen Space Marines who get their dome piece blown off the moment they step off the drop pod.
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Saying that every Space Wolf is a potential Ragnar and should be treated as such is like saying every US Marine is John Basilone. It's just not true. >>97927724 speaks truth.
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Some Marines are definitely more powerful than others. Able to resist Warp energy more than others and resist fear or temptation and some are also much stronger than others. Ragnar is an exceptional example of a Marine.
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>entirely unnecessary and generally unfitting to the setting
Unfitting to the setting, Starscream? This is bad bait!
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>>97927748
You are correct for once in your secondary life, people like them for their models like all sane people in this hobby. Lore and fluff literally don't matter, it's only there to make you buy more plastic toy soldiers and you should come up with your own anyway
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>Erm akshully people LIKE the spandex wearing power ranger elves!
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/40kg/, hear me! I am Araghast The Pillager! Master of Hounds, the Lash of the Black Legion! You, and ALL your kind are cowards! Lowly lickspittles! You must be emulating that pile of bones you call an Emperor! You are as dead and as useless as him! I am destroying your threads, /40kg/, yet you do nothing! I see your precious baitposting, hanging in orbit above my post! I am here! FACE ME, IF YOU DARE!
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Do not mistake incompetence for malevolence. Their main mistake is viewing both the Eldar factions as one play base the same way that they view marines as one big player base. That's how you get Ynnari debacle. That's how you get Eldar languishing in editions DE got stuff while DE is left languishing in editions Eldar got stuff. Corsairs are a "all Elf Factions release" to them even though they're actually only close to usable in Eldar.
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Woe, Aspect of Murder Glaivetarch upon ye.
Hitting on 2+.
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>Tasukete Russ-sam-ACK
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++ Commander, I have intercepted the enemy transmission. My auspex indicates this is likely a trap, Commander, I recommend being mindful of being baited by the enemy. The coordinates are now being relayed to your tactial display. I leave the decision to you, Commander. For the Chapter. Martellus out. ++
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>You play black space marines
>I play orks
>our game is black on black crime
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Got my dirty GSC claws on this kit recently. Gonna use the robot manservant guy as a benefictus with his big brain pod, but I'm not sure how I want to use the Inquisitor. I really like the sculpt, so maybe I'll just have him be a Primus or something with little to no alterations. Servoskull will probably find its way stuck to a Goliath or something.
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I did the further rolling out of the thread to avoid too much spam. Breakdown;
>Autarch deals 3 damage on first swing as Araghast saves 2/3 wounds
>Araghast seings six times with an Exalted Weapon, lands all hits but drops two Wounds as it's a 3+. Autarch saves 3/4 with the 4++, rolling 2, 4, 4, and 6. Autarch survives with 2 wounds.
>Autarch swings back, failing one Hit and one Wound but Araghast fails his two 4++ saves with two 2s.
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>>97927919
>after
As far as we're aware they're already gonna re-release primarchs, gully is gonna get a new model.
What's the next thing after primarchs that are gonna make cows & whales go
>Omg it's happening *pog*
Anything from the
>LOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
that we haven't seen before.
Also, maybe plastic titans
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Does the emperor still have rules for HH?
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>>97927950
In a not so distant future, the stars will align like so:
>Some autist will scan/remake titans in blender/zbrush
>Plastic 3D printing (or a better material) will be better than resin printing
And you will have exactly what you're asking for, yet even better.
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I am really looking forward to your absolute fucking autistic breakdown when the collage ends up with 30+ entries, maybe that will finally be enough to get you rangebanned
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Tell me, Eldar fans;
Would you accept being a more important faction with more dedicated and in-depth showings (including more wins in large-scale conflicts) if it meant the Eldar also had to be more allied with the Imperium?
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Get this, invent something new! I kinoiw actually adding something brand new to the setting and not building off something mentioned in passing and fleshing it out. Some new creativity, not taking from great influential sci-fi but becoming and creating great and influentinal sci-fi.
Or just go ideas mining in other IP again. There's not many good ones that have great stuff worth taking, maybe Not!Phyrexians as a mechnical eugencis plague connected to Vashtorr or some rival to him.
Or Not!Eldrazi for some truly eldtrich and alien enemies. 40k doesn't have alien interdimesional enemies, daemons and the Warp are literally emotions and have been heavily understood cataloged since 40k began so don't have the same kind of feeling of alieness as they do.
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Nazdreg, more like Nazdrip.
This dude fucks.
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I’m hopeful because they’re nostalgia baiting 2nd edition, and that box was packed to the brim with grots, but at the same time I think 20 boyz is pretty certain, and so having 20 grots on top of that with all the other characters and vehicles, the value might be too unbalanced for the ork side.
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>>97928056
The Ynnari were never actually allied with Guilliman that much. He called them a single time in a short drama to go muck about and steal a Nurgle artifact that was affecting Ultramar, which they admittedly did succeed at stealing.
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>Is the autarch a crucible character or something?
No, it's an Autarch with a Star Glaive and the Aspect of Murder enhancement from Aspect Host.
She swings 4 times, hitting on 2+ at Strength 6 with -3 AP and 4 damage. The enhancement also gives her Precision, which doesn't matter so much in this case.
Araghast is being run as a typical Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor with an Exalted Weapon.
Oddly enough I actually did the math a little wrong since I forgot that Terminator Lords halve incoming, not just reduce it by 1, but the outcome ended up the same since the Autarch still did 2 damage a swing.
Technically a Banshee Blade AoM Autarch would actually have worked better, since it would get an extra attack and AoM would keep the damage profile at 2.
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>>97927919
You'll get the primarch equivalent of the Goffs, the Bad Moons, Evil Sunz, Deathskulls, Snakebites, Blood Axes.
Then, Isha and Cegorach are gonna get Avatars.
Then, Solar Macharius is coming back, along with the other Lords. Lord Obscurus, Lord Ultima, Lord Tempestus, Lord Pacificus.
Then you're going to get some seventh-sphere expansion splinter Ethreals forming their own enclaves.
Might get more Ctan.
Norn Queens, Heirodules, and Heirophant models.
No, Vect will still not be back.
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>Make 11th Edition 'less lethal' by giving models in cover some protection from long range shooting
>Before it even begins, give multiple factions rules that let their vehicles move faster and shoot after advancing
Lmao time for more vehicles
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>wazdakka is going to be 145 AUD
>one hundred and forty five kangaroo coal republic pesos
Shits fucked brehs, ive never paid anything close to that for one model before. The most I've paid is 90 bucks for a battlewagon
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>Make 10th edition "less lethal" by tuning down rerolls and mortal wounds
>Before it even begins give marines a rule for full rerolls against 1-2 targets a turn and eldar a rule for 1-6 d6 mortal wounds a turn
A tale as old as time
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Reposting this in hopes that it'll get continued in my absence. 4chan is now so shitty a site to post on that I can't be bothered to anymore, but I'd like to keep the brown elf paint guide in the air for the slim chance that it gets completed by others.
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Necrons, actually.
I remember it taking forever to even attempt to post a few days ago, though that seems to have been fixed, but the new captcha is total shit.
If I can get back to the old ones I'll probably start trolling through these threads again.
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Why does GW feel the pathological need to fuck up the rules with weird MTG "GOTCHA" rules like "lol this detachment lets you (insert bullshit here)" instead of just letting the profiles stand on their own without any of that other nonsense and balancing the game around that
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>no fucking 11th rules preview
why the fuck did they stop? just to shill these broken ass end of edition models and detachments?
FUCK YOU GWalso fuck you even harder for giving votann the shitty back in transport strat while dorks and memereens got the broken ones
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you can learn every army in the game's datasheets and still get raped because your opponent can go "AHA, MY DETACHMENT ALLOWS ME TO SPEND 1CP TO FUCKING IGNORE THAT RULE OR ALLOW X UNIT TO INSTANTLY KILL YOU WHEN NORMALLY IT WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THAT"
my guess is that, considering this is the same sort of shit that goes on in the TCG space, GW hired a bunch of TCG fags to write rules for a miniature wargame and/or the GW rules designers like Robin Cruddace got into TCG and inserted that faggotry into 40k
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I don't know why but your comment about the red terror made me realised that the Tyranids don't have any hydra like or multiheaded monsters. I dunno could a two headed Tyranid organism work while respecting the design rules? Would it look silly?
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>"AHA, MY DETACHMENT ALLOWS ME TO SPEND 1CP TO FUCKING IGNORE THAT RULE OR ALLOW X UNIT TO INSTANTLY KILL YOU WHEN NORMALLY IT WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THAT"
fundamental shift that has occurred since 8th edition that has transformed 40k from a wargame that simulates battles to a weird video game in tabletop form with MOBA abilities and GOTCHA shit. 11th edition marketing is like "we're putting the narrative focus back at the forefront" and still has this moba ability spam shit that has no basis in the fiction and makes zero sense from an in-universe viewpoint because they're video game abilities
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>I dunno could a two headed Tyranid organism work while respecting the design rules? Would it look silly?
We would have to work with symbiotic biomorphs attached to the nid that just happen to have mouths like his actual head for something like that
Basically a nid forgefiend
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>Phoenix Princes get buffed to primarch level
>Tau get their own primarchs
>Tyranids get a Hive Primarch after they eat Khan
>Dorn defects to the Leagues of Votann with one of the restored forgotten primarchs after Guilliman says he can't rebuild Cadia
>Fabius Bile raids Trazyn's museum and steals the Sensei to turn them into Chaos Primarchs
>Titus is given the Primaris Segunda Primarchaeus to become a primarch
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so it's too late for me, right? I'm too old to enter the hobby proper, right?
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>Phoenix Princes get buffed to primarch level
Should only have Avatar of Khaine/Ynnead/Cegorach at Primarch level
>Tau get their own primarchs
They should have a couple of super experimental armored suits that kill their pilots but give them insane reflexes and battle prowess using something special about the Tau themselves like having to download them into an engram chip so their physical body dies.
>Tyranids get a Hive Primarch after they eat Khan
Just give them a couple big named Norn-likes built specifically to learn new adaptations from hunting down heroes and battling them and then copying their traits
>Dorn defects to the Leagues of Votann with one of the restored forgotten primarchs after Guilliman says he can't rebuild Cadia
You could easily just give them one of the original men of iron who lead the original rebellion against the Imperium before becoming an ancestor core
>Fabius Bile raids Trazyn's museum and steals the Sensei to turn them into Chaos Primarchs
Fabius has Alpha Primus, Cawl's experimental new Primarch that he can use as a baseline for his new Adam
>Titus is given the Primaris Segunda Primarchaeus to become a primarch
Titus will be Chapter Master of the Ultramarines. Calgar is going to get promoted to some other role to free up Gulliman.
>The Orks realize Yarrick is a primarch
Yarrick on his personal Baneblade is basically a Primarch mechanically.
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What's so bad about Combat Patrol? Why is it so universally despised while Spearhead gets all the praise whenever someone mentions it? What is so different between these two?
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First army since forever, Eldar 1000pts, thoughts?
Aspect Host
Autarch (85pts): Warlord
Farseer (70pts)
10x Guardian Defenders + bright lance(100pts)
5x Fire Dragons (120pts)
5x Howling Banshees (95pts)
5x Rangers (55pts)
5x Warp Spiders (105pts)
3x Shining Spears (110pts)
Falcon (130pts) Lance/Cannon
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I have something like 400 tactical marines that I have collected over the years for dirt cheap over the years. Are they going to be any good in 11th so I finally won't feel like I'm crippling myself if I use them?
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I unironically agree with the 1st guy. You don't have to play a game to know if it'll be dogshit.
After you've played a game for long enough time, no matter if it's a video game or even tabletop, you can easily start figuring shit out even in games you haven't played just by glancing at it or reading the rules.
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Storm Guardians in place of a second Falcon might work better for objectives and screening, as well as a better unit for the Farseer to lead. Would also allow you to take Shimmerstone or Aspect of Murder on the Autarch, as I'm guessing they're leading the Banshees.
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>white marine turns black when needed
>black marine turns white when needed
Why is this black marine shit still going on all these years later when marines are able to change skin color as they please for the conditions they are in?
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>>97928614
How am I a "nigger loving faggot" if I am explaining how white my chapter is you illiterate gorilla?
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>>97928624
>I am explaining how white my chapter is
If you have to do this mean you let the shitpost get to you. You already lost.
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>>97928624
fake wolfbro.
we aren't racist, stop making real Space Wolves reps look bad.
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>>97928411
AD6 only changes a potentially higher or lower density of random splurges of 1-3 damage getting through. A single attack might do enough damage to kill a TEQ in one go or do overkill.
>>97928469
Combat Patrol boxes can be far worse about their contents just by GW trying to clear out excess stock, and as a game mode - doesn't really bend the rules well or in any interesting way to adapt to the limitations of their contents without forcing players to lose models and even pick between them. Because these are looked at as value boxes more often due to the mode's stigma, there are huge differences for actual 40k; just look at the Custodes box vs the Admech one, potentially ~1000pts vs ~300pts.
Spearhead does a bit more to separate itself from the main game and has a few extra mechanics like a deck, also keeping the rules for the old boxes around.
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>>97928658
by percentage, we are the most diverse chapter that has a model range.
do you even have models?
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>>97928400
Lack of consequences + rewarded.
If you're antisocial in public, you'll quickly be shoved aside or people will move to their own spaces where you can't follow. Here people can, if they really, really want, always come back.
You might see negative responses as discouraging.
>You suck and I hate you
Repeated enough time will make someone leave, if you are normal. If the way you learnt to socialize is to try and fight/dominate interactions, then instead you see these fights as a challenge and you develop grudges. You both associate negative interactions as a situation where you HAVE to react (or fear "dying"/losing) BUT ALSO as a good thing since you are being interacted with.
That's why "don't feed the trolls" is the standard etiquette, because trolls love interaction, be it negative or not. And when you have enough people who justify themselves as "just having fun" or "not doing anything wrong", themselves lesser versions of the more egregious troublemakers, then it feeds itself.
Let's be factual: the "demented and obsessive" posters spend their time interacting with those who feed into them. In fact, when they arrive in the thread, they are seeking these very users. The lolcows seek the milkers, as they are the ones who will interact with them.
In short: This is the perfect place for them to be demented and obsessive.
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>>97928665
>Combat Patrol boxes can be far worse about their contents just by GW trying to clear out excess stock
Dude, you don't even know how Spearhead boxes suck since they started to include Warcry/Underworlds bands.
>Spearhead does a bit more to separate itself from the main game
Spearhead is a carbon copy of 4ed rules with 1-2 extra gimmicks.
>keeping the rules for the old boxes around
This is true for Combat Patrol as well. WarCom has rules for 46 Combat Patrol forces AND there are extra forces introduced by White Dwarf.
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>>97928408
Damn bro I saw an expensive box of orks when I was a child and wanted to get it on the spot, had no idea wtf 40k was or anything but I liked that box of 16 orks and got it with zero knowledge of the lore. All these years later I still don't know the lore
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>>97928685
If you opt to get Dire Avengers the second Falcon would come in handy again, but given the current comp you have the use for it now would just be to Deep Strike the Banshee squad, and considering how fadt they are already it's not quite as effective.
If you want a decently threatening objective runner you could also slap a Warlock Conclave onto the Storm Guardian squad with the Farseer. A 4+/5++ that's -1 to Wound is surprisingly decent for cleaning up lesser threats, especially toting around multiple Torrent weapons and two Meltas.
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>>97928711
it's which ever you want, the details get a little muddy
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>>97928732
Don't you get tired of repeating that same bullshit over and over?
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>>97928711
Originally caucasians.
Then African with obsidian skin & red eyes
Then caucasian with obsidian skin & red eyes
Now every race with obsidian skin & red eyes
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>>97928769
that’s just someone fucking around. decalfag is eternally trapped using his iphone to make posts because that’s how he ban evades. I won’t lie pretending to be the decalfag for attention is probably worse than being the actual decalfag himself.
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>>97928782
Jesus Christ this place is an insane asylum at this point. Go take your meds anon.
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>so you be saying we some kind of recast squad and shit
I should get myself a new cutting mat
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>>97928561
> Space Wolves have 12 Great Companies
> Ragnar's is the second-biggest
> Ragnar has 200 guys
Unless the First Great Company is grotesquely oversized there are ~2400 as an upper limit.
Incidentally this also proves that the Wolves fucking suck at fighting because they've gone from Legion strength (100k) to a big Chapter through attrition alone, with no succession.
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>>97928855
They are pure AIDS in terms of crunch since they suck to play against even when they're weak because of being a complete skew army. Hobby wise though they are fantstic since there's a ton of customization and painting you can do with them.
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Are there any basing bits for HW teams to form makeshift fortifications other than sandbags or pieces of ruin? I'd love something like the deployable barricade walls from Kill-Team, but with space for a tripod mounts HW weapon to fire over it.
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If GW released some decent borderline pinup busts of Yvraine, a SoB, and some others (and a few of guys to make it less egregiously gooner) they would probably make a killing on them. I don't imagine it would be a high investment on their part, they should try and expand out past the wargaming part of mini painting. As it stands there are just a bunch of "totally not the lion" busts available from indie sellers.
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>>97928854
>Incidentally this also proves that the Wolves fucking suck at fighting because they've gone from Legion strength (100k) to a big Chapter through attrition alone, with no succession.
To be fair this has happened to every single Legion. It's been 10k years of decay for the Imperium.
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>>97928912
>instantly felt called out
I just come here for the comedy at this point
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>>97928878
Jain Zar is an extremely good and nigh oppressive leader at 1000p, as she essentially doubles movement for Banshees. The Autarchas well also had a good chance of giving a big mobility boost since they can re-roll Advance rolls.
If you wanted to use her in place of a Falcon or Storm Guardians it could work, with the Autarch going with the Fire Dragons instead which is in itself a terrifying option, as it gives free Preternatural Precision for them to get Ignores Cover or Sustained Hits.
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>>97928927
It's just his coping mechanism. Please have some sympathy, he's going to be spiritually raped soon. It's clearly very hard on him.
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>>97928928
>Every other legion split off into chapters during in the second founding
Nah. Salamanders refused utterly, Iron Hands only split off like two Chapters, Imperial Fists were completely wiped out and had to be rebooted, etc.
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If I wanted to run an almost entirely jump pack and biker army for space Marines, would it be viable? I don't want to be competitive try hard level, but I do want it to be fun and playable against most things. Would there be a better army to represent something like that? I also wanted to kitbash them riding giant horses instead of bikes, so would anyone know a good kit, sprue, or 3d print to take that from?
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>>97928938
What are you even talking about?
Anyway I hope they don't add a faction. They have all the important bases covered, and there are existing factions in desperate need of attention. Fuck, I would be happy if they could even make an effort to have 1 of ever available kit actually available in-stores.
Even just from a business perspective, I have essentially given up going to GW despite it being my closest LGS because they never have fucking anything and all that happens is you show up and they can order it for you, but I could do that over the phone, or just order it from the warehouse directly to my house (or at that point just order it from any number of other, often cheaper options).
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>>97928916
you used 4chan for something else?
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>>97928951
Yes. To be fair I never got to play any raptor and never actually got the current box, back in 2021/22 I got 3 boxes of the old Possessed for an unit of 10 and turned 5 of them into Warp Talons using the wingpack bits but I barely got to play those before Possessed were upgraded into much bigger units, my bro got me these old raptor recasts for my birthday this year so i'll play them against him next game.
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>>97928938
Traitor Guard, obviously
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>>97928955
For the Iron Hands that was because they had so few left by that point. I presume the Salamanders had a similar deal, both Legions were gigafucked at istvaan.
The Imperial Fist wipe out and reboot was after the second founding, during the War of the Beast. It was only because of them being split up in the second founding that enabled the reboot, with all the many successors contributing marines and material back into remaking the original.
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>>97928963
I agree with this. There are a bit too many half baked factions as is that did not need it. thousand sons, world eaters, and emperor's children really did not need the separation. Many of the unique models could have been generic stat lines with alternate loadouts based on alignment.
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Why is chaos cooler when they aren’t chaos worshippers? Iron Warriors are bad guys but they’re Chaos on their own terms.
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>>97928966
>Ultramarines for example had over 400k
Their numbers swelled to ~200-250k after the purging of the 2nd and 11th legions but before that they were closer to the "standard" legion size
In reality all numbers in Warhammer are made up and retarded and should be completely ignored in any serious conversation
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>>97928989
Anyone who thinks they are "Chaos on their own terms" are just dumbasses that got tricked by the Chaos Gods through hubris. They are just as cucked as everyone else on the Chaos side but the fact that think they aren't actually makes them even more cucked.
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>>97928989
fuck the imperium and the gods
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>>97928938
Exodites most likely. Rumours have them getting at least a kill team almost certain.
Traitor Guard most deserved in terms of setting importance, but I'm worried that'll cut the roster way down from just converting regular IG.
There's probably something in the pipe that could be described as dark mech, further elaboration around Vashtorr at least. They might lean more Forge of Souls than darkmech while doing it. I'd still prefer Traitor Guard and DarkMech mixed up in a Lost and the Damned style book with some solid rules for allying to other chaos armies.
Them doing a Tarellian and Barghesi makes me hopeful that an official Hrud model will happen in the next few years, but odds of an army still feel rock bottom low.
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>>97928938
The Lost and the Damned. it's more than just traitor guard. It's more PDF, Cultists, Mutants, etc. It's also completely doable now with minimal new units. Between Jakhals/Tzaangors/Poxwalkers, Accursed Cultists, cultist Cultists of various flavors, Fellgors, etc. They just need to expand a bit more/give them some schtick that makes them different from GSC (Daemon summoning?)
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>>97928984
I'm obviously not the decalfag. I can't even get the models I want from GW to put SS lightning bolts on them if I wanted to. My GW store doesn't even have a box of crisis suits, and they haven't for years. You haven't been able to go to the store and pick up ANY of the tau battle suits (you know... their entire army essentially) for years, no crisis suits, no stealth suits, no broadsides (I did buy one, but there's never been more since that one), no ghostkeels, stormsurges, or riptides. Ever. The only thing ever in stock is pathfinders, and sometimes a commander. If ordering things online didn't exist, Tau would be a completely unviable army to build in my area for literally no reason.
>>97928978
GW went too hard on a million different individual kits for every single minor variation of a unit across sub-factions. There are a dozen space marine kits that could have been the intercessor box with one added sprue of extra bits and everyone would have liked that kit way more than any of the existing kits, and it would have serviced the same resulting squads. You could have more viable subfactions if GW just did this, and gave you more options in the boxes, but instead there are 9 different SM chapters that all need full line refreshes for no reason apparently meanwhile GK hasn't been updated in 15 years and all the non-SM factions are happy to get 1 kit a year that was made from the same 3d model they used to make the last kit.
>>97928980
I don't know what L&TD is, but okay.
High elves and Wood elves are the same thing as far as I'm concerned. There doesn't need to be a separate faction of Eldar. Eldar can get a box of independent mercenaries or something like a heroes of the imperium style unit. It makes no sense for them to have 'an army'. Hell it barely makes sense for the deldar to have a standing army.
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I'm tired of feeling bitter all the time.
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>>97929045
We here at JeW have heard you and are happy to announce a new imperial guard detachment, "The Lost and the Doomed"!
>Mutated Masses: [Platoon] units in this detachment may declare a charge in a turn they advanced, weapons equipped by [Squadron] units in this detachment in this detachment lose the [heavy] ability and gain the [assault] ability
>[Officer] models in this detachment may not issue orders, and gain the Dark Pacts ability (see codex: chaos space marines)
>You may take up to 500 points (strike force) of [chaos daemons] as allies in this detachment
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>>97929085
But also don't go to /wip/ we don't want miserable /40kg/ people ruining the thread with all your nazi stuff
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>>97929039
its what happens when renegade space marines (as in rebelling from the Imperium for purely political reasons) aren’t supported in writing or models, so they have to cling to the few CSM armies that have it slightly vague on whether they truly worship chaos or not.
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>>97929090
what’s wrong with my nazi stuff?
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>mom gets interested in 40K (just curiosity, she doesn't plan to get into the hobby any time soon)
>she actually asked questions whenever a friend came over to play a game with me
>explain basic lore to her as best we can
>show her examples of minis on the official site one time
>arrive at Dark Eldar
>she says she likes their aesthetic (especially the wracks and Kaballites)
>mfw
I didn't have the heart to explain their lore to her.
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>>97928870
I wish they would go all out and make them a mech micromanagement faction. You get that one centerpiece but you need to juggle energy distribution to various systems, ammunition feed, facing, exposure and so on. Real tactical choices that will impact your performance on the battlefield and prompt different reactions from your opponents.
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>>97928501
does killteam?
>>97928595
combat patrol doesn't have anything to keep anyone engaged. Its not even friendly to people who have never rolled dice before.
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>>97929106
No, the Reaper. Old FW boat they lost at the start of 10th edition.
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>>97929088
Apologies there were some oversights on this detachment, here's your day 0 patch :)
>What's new?:
>LatD may not take [EPIC HERO] units
>LatD units my not be affected by orders for any reason
>LatD [Squadron] units now only gain [assault] on weapons that lost [heavy] as a result of this detachment
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>>97929088
Sometimes I legitimately forget that people here actually play 10th edition
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Next month is the 1 year anniversary of the collage. We should do something special but I don't know what.
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Going to an event next month to end 10th edition. The list:
>Firestorm
>Lysander
>2x5 terminators, one with missile launcher, one with assault cannon
>land raider
>land raider redeemer
>2x tactical squad with meltagun and heavy bolter
>2x rhinos
>devastator squads with 4 multimeltas
>drop pod
>vindicator
>whirlwind
>5 scouts
>1995 points
It's purging time.
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>>97929200
What was the theme of the very first collage? Maybe we should simply re-do it?
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My LGS is hosting a big singleton format event to say goodbye to 10th to "make everyone bring some variety". The first two people to sign up both are bringing Necrons. I can't wait to play against CTAN spam yet again while literally being unable to bring enough AT units to kill them because of the format.
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Abominable. When my LGS was running a singleton event, you were only allowed to field 1 single-model unit for every multi-model unit.
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>>97929322
They're meant to be the main and biggest fighting force of the Imperium, so inventing a few new ones at any given opportunity is a good way to help convey a sense of scale.
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>>97929233
>singleton
That isn't far off my current list desu, the only thing I have doubles of are flash gitz and trukks, oh and warbosses but none of those are essential. I think its a very easy format for an ork army desu, particularly for war horde
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I can't decide if I should go full on Darkmech or have my Heretek/Enginseer refrain from drinking the Kool-aid, with a wibe more like the one in Necromunda.
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>>97929362
Not to mention all the territories that the Imperium claims fall under their mandate but are actually independent, or they've lost control over after the Great Rift.
"There are an infinite number of guard regiments" makes zero sense at this point. The Imperium controls only like 30-40% of the Galaxy, tops. Probably even lower than that.
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>The Imperium controls only like 30-40% of the Galaxy, tops
it's less than that, remember that the old line was that the Imperium controlled "a million" worlds, and after the great gift it controls far less than that on its side of the Galaxy.
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>"a million" worlds
Does 40k specify how big the galaxy is or what was the believed number of stars when the setting was conceived? Because Milky Way has over 100 billion stars, each with a potential system of orbiting planets. A million worlds, hell even a million systems, would be literally nothing.
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>>97929374
It really is. I remember getting flak for running an all monster 'nid list once before that one detachment came out then got nerfed. There are people who claim to play "casually" but run whatever is broken at the moment, sell off everything not broken, just to rebuy it again if it comes back into the meta.
I am still trying to figure out how to get a mostly bike and assault marine list to work. I want something fun but at least playable. You get dozens of guys claiming it have "come up with a list" but it is the same current meta thing from a YouTube video.
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>>97929394
The Milky Way has an estimated 1 trillion planets, and the number is far higher because there are 400 billion stars and if each one of those had 9 planets like our solar system that's three trillion easy. And that's not counting all the dwarf planets.
The number of planets in a galaxy is stupidly high.
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>that servitor
I need an STL recreation of that to make a mobile version of the vox relay beacon.
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>>97929394
>A million worlds, hell even a million systems, would be literally nothing.
Yes, that's intentional.
>The galaxy contains some four hundred thousand million stars of various types. Of these only a fraction are presumed to have habitable planetary systems, and only a fraction of these have been investigated. Most are situated within the spiral arms between ten and forty thousand light years from the galactic center.
>The very size of the galaxy means that, despite the use of faster than light warp drives, most of it remains unknown. Even the human controlled lmperium, by far the largest and most widely distributed of all stellar empires, contains only a tiny fraction of the galaxy‘s stars. New worlds are constantly being discovered and investigated, along. with their attendant civilizations, creatures and resources. Even so. there is no possibility of either humans or aliens exhausting the galaxy's potential to provide new worlds for habitation and exploitation.
Warhammer 40,000 Rogue Trader (1987)
>As powerful as it is. the lmperium does not rule the entire galaxy. Mankind's worlds are spread thin across the 200,000,000,000 stars that make up the galaxy. within the lmperium's vague borders are rebellious enclaves of human worlds. domains ruled over by alien war leaders. colonies of creatures too aloof or basic to disturb mankind or draw the attention of the war fleets. The lmperium is engulfed in a constant state of war. Sometimes simply continuing its wars of expansion, other times fighting against foes who threaten the survival of the entire human race.
Warhammer 40,000 3rd edition rulebook (1998)
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>>97929403
on the contrary, the number of habitable worlds must be massively increased from a real life understanding of them because there have been at least 3 galaxy spanning empires who have actively terraformed worlds
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>>97929420
>The lmperium of Man comprises a million inhabited worlds, stretching from the furthest reaches of the Eastern Fringe to the distant Halo Stars. Although this is a huge number of planets. it is as nothing when compared to the immense size of the galaxy itself. The lmperium is spread very thinly across space: its worlds are dotted through the void and divided by hundreds, if not thousands of light years. It is therefore wrong to think of the lmperium in terms of a territory which extends across the galaxy. The truth is far more complex. The lmperium's holdings are scattered far and wide by the vagaries of Warp travel and spatial drift. One inhabited system may be separated from its nearest neighbor by alien civilizations, unstable Warp storms. dimensional cascades or unexplored space. Indeed, Mankind's ignorance of his environs far exceeds his meagre knowledge. for humanity has yet to explore much of the galaxy. Who knows what ancient secrets lie undiscovered and undisturbed amongst the stars?
Warhammer 40,000 5th edition rulebook (2008)
>The reality is rather different. The Imperium is in constant flux, worlds vanishing amidst howling warp storms or annihilated by invading terrors even as new territories are claimed by Rogue Traders and Explorator fleets. Imperial crusades surge across the stars, driving back their enemies or vanishing in the bloody maelstrom of war. The Imperium is best pictured as many thousands of tiny candles, scattered far and wide through a dark and hungry void. Some burn bright, or burst into vibrant life, even as others flicker, waver and are snuffed out.
Warhammer 40,000 9th edition rulebook (2020) (repeated in 10th)
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>>97929386
Yeah, as you can see, he's not very spikey. I'm wondering if I should try to catch that style (and paintjob) or go full retard on the chaos-y stuff. Or if I should go with a middle ground and hide some chaos mutations/symbols on the model
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So the new ork blitz brigade detachment is pure dogshit right?
>YOU CAN RE-ROLL CHARGE ROLLS AFTER EXITING A TRANSPORT
Except you can't charge after leaving a transport and instead have to roll up weather a turn of gunfire and possibly getting charged which would negate the whole ability. And if your moving your transports close chances are your close enough to reliably make charges anyway.
I guess its more for cross map charges from transports that haven't moved at all during a waaagh!? But that seems really niche compared to [Sustained Hits 1] on every melee weapon. Seems like Orks can never have useful detachments and are instead relegated to having 1 super niche detachment ability that affects a total of 3 units in the codex.
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>>97929417
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>>97929486
well we have half the strats
>for 1 CP reduce the wound roll of attacks with strength greater than the toughness of your unit by 1. Applicable to battlewagons, kill rigs, hunta rigs.
>for 1 CP get units in the transport get to disembark and move D6" after your transport is shot
>for 1 CP your orks can embark on a transport within 6" at the end of the fight phase if there are no enemies within engagement range
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>>97929322
Obvious garbage bait aside, it's because the Imperial Guard is the historical based faction, as in the faction for the people who like historical armies and the likes.
Contrary to an actual historical setting you have freedom in colors, look and equipment.
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>>97929519
That's the spirit
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>>97929456
My hope and dream? Pic related
Reality? Dark Mech or Traitor guard 100% but hopefully after that will be Xenos time again
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>>97929456
all possible chaos waves will remain contained in the existing chaos codexes
all possible imperial waves will remain contained in the existing imperial codexes, save perhaps salamanders getting turned into a supplement
it's near impossible for men of iron to be added as an independent force, so they'll more likely be inside LoV if they get expanded upon
grot revolutionaries could receive an independent book, if gw can move past its fear of political controversies, but it's also possible if not likely that they wouldn't split orks and instead give a reason for the grot units to be together with the orks
whether exodites will be a completely separate book or something that slots inside craftworld eldar is up in the air, and on whether they give them the stallion
zoats are another complete incognita because they could be added to tyranids, to genecults, or something else entirely like exodites/slanni depending on the lore reinvention they would get
slanni are a faction that cannot exist in any other codex except exodites if they decide to play it safe on them
we'll see what gw wants to do with exodites between 3 to 6 years, after that nobody can know, but no other potential faction exists
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Night Gobbos in space would be neat as a subline, like Kroot or Beast Snaggaz.
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Beach day? It's almost summer for the Norther Hemisphere. You can get your desert vibes and beach vibes