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Page 6 and no posts? Looks like 4chan Jumpchain is dead
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Like I said, Jumpchain isnt an actual game. I think somebody should rig up some sort of solo rpg system with oracles to give an impartial side of the experience instead of relying on author only, cause that is biased, I think having a win and loss state can help.
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>>98134785
Are you trying to Meme here? Because I asked someone who was talking about Oracles like this in honest curiosity and they shot me down saying they didn't feel like talking about it.
If we are talking good solo systems I like a combination of Mythic and Mutants and Masterminds for the stat part. That is just personal bias though. Mutants and Masterminds allows you to build anything but it has a bit of crunch to it and I am comfortable with Mythic, I have never tried oracles. Still it's a fun idea of busting out some dice and having yourself an actual Jumpchain RPG.
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>>98134879
NTA but I don't like the system of Mutants and Masterminds at all because its attempts at keeping things "balanced" are just too jarring. You get shit like automatically recovering to full health within 15 minutes once the fight is over no matter how close to death you got (assuming you didn't actually die) and that's the baseline before any powers are factored in but if you exhaust yourself it will take a minimum of several hours to catch your breath and no kind of superpower can help with that. Not to mention all the "Superspeed is just fluff, you don't actually get to take more actions in the same amount of time than someone moving at normal speed" and such.

I'd like to have an LLM run a chain for me but my GPU caps out at ~150k context running Gemma 4 after tricks to save on VRAM which seems like a lot but runs out quicker than you'd think.
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>>98134183
>can't post pdfs
>have to deal with ddanon
>the random range bans and stupid captcha
no fucking shit it is dead here
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>>98134183
No pdfs and posting being randomly blocked by range bans make it difficult to post here.
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The reddit jump for Revenge of the Sith offers the Separatist fleet that fought at Coruscant which numbers in the 10s of thousands of ships. Would a fleet that big be able to bring order to a significant sector of the terminus systems in Mass Effect should Jumper decide to form their own equivalent of the Corporate Sector Authority there?
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I hate the range bans, but what is up with them anyway? Are they just blocking entire states at a time?
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>>98136420
A good chunk of them are fake, the 'threat level' is just too high because of some stupid automated system.
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>>98136121
>can't post pdfs
Not really an issue since you can upload them wherever and link to them. If the PDF share thread can operate without attaching PDFs to posts then so /jc/, we don't even need to be all cloak and dagger about it unlike them.
>have to deal with ddanon
As opposed to all the blogposting namefags and their sycophants in their own little kingdom? Not that I have any love of anyone with an unwarranted sense of importance on this site, either.
>the random range bans
Haven't had one in nearly a decade myself and if they still work the same they don't even stop you from posting entirely, just attachments and new threads.
>stupid captcha
I find the current captcha quite nice. It's really quick and easy and can be done using just the mouse.

Don't bother getting heated up, just take a few deep breaths and wait a bit and the cognitive dissonance will subside. Arguing about this shit goes anywhere.
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What is this general even supposed to look like on a good day?
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>>98136575
It is an issue because I don't feel like going through more hoops and thus don't post my jumps here.
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>>98136815
>hoops
The effort of uploading something to catbox or the like and copy-pasting the link is just about the same as attaching a file. I do it all the time in other threads. Hell, there's even an extension that makes it exactly the same effort that could easily be tweaked for /jc/'s use case.
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>>98136847
>I do it all the time in other threads.
Yet you don't do it in this thread. Because you don't make jumps. Because you're a shitposter whose opinion is worthless, and you're mad there's no one here to respond to your shitposting.
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>>98136941
If that's what you're set on believing there's not much point to this whole conversation. Picrel is a glimpse of an update I'm planning on for one of my jumps by the way.
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>>98136788
Go back a year or two in the archives and see for yourself.
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>>98135316
Alright I like Mutants and Masterminds it's pretty versatile but I can understand that maybe you want something a little different. Maybe something with a bit more teeth. Does anyone have any good suggestions for game system that lets you keep piling on tons of stuff on to a character like Jumpchain does?
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>>98134785
>>98135316
Don't have anything to add about solo rpgs or oracles (except I had a bit of fun using some website called hexroll to generate a world and encounters to go through that I couldn't metagame as much), but I've tried to stat my jumpers out every so often, to mixed success.
Most notable has been my attempt at statting out my jumpers with an extremely bastardized version of the Storyteller System, which I've never actually played, so it amounted to just having different stats, d10s, and a dice pool to resolve stuff. It kinda worked, but not really any better at generating interesting situations or modeling a Jumper than just author decisions have been for me.
Because my attention span's terrible, I jump (heh) from chain concept to chain concept after ~2 jumps in each depending on what I'm interested in in that moment. Most recently that has been my attempts to make a chain that was basically a series of solo wargaming campaigns as I try to get into wargaming; too early to say whether it's working or if it's fun or not. I've used One Page Rules Star Quest rules to stat out my jumper for that, but I just started the first jump for that, so too early to say.
Would be very interested in any recommendations other anons here have for oracles for Jumpchain or other game systems that work better than my kludged together sacks of garbage.
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Please don't die, I don't want to be stuck on the bunker forever
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>>98147502
Hahahahahahahahaha.
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>>98147502
It's not going to die. However it would be a lot healthier if you asked a question or something to stimulate conversation.

So what's going on in everyone's chain. I am currently rewriting a rewrite of the first stop of my chain because... reasons.
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>>98147988
I'm pretty on and off (mostly off) with writing my chain so haven't gotten past nuking Alinor yet. Can't really decide how things should ultimately turn out with the portal I opened for Dagon or what sort of course the Argonian Invasion should take when the Red Year didn't happen.
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>>98147988
I read some writeups on bunker and they were like a single paragraph for the full 10 years, so I'm wondering if it is more that jumpers won't write or anons won't read anything longer. For the one or two of you that read jump writeups, what sort of pace do you think is good?
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>>98147988
JUmper is upset that his infinite energy generator broke because he changed jumps. Hear me out. Cyclops has eyes that are portals to endless energy, so jump just had to get his hands on a few sets. Jumper did knock Scott out and healed and regrew his eyes. Was even nice enough to give the guy a power toggle as payment. He magiteched up a converter to make the energy more usable for him. But then when he switched jumps the entire thing stopped working because apparently that dimension of energy is a Marvel thing and the eyes only work in Marvel. Jumper is pissed as he has to go to plan B, which is dismembering himself, regrowing the limbs and then converting the flesh into usable an energy source.
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>>98149013
>they were like a single paragraph for the full 10 years
>I'm wondering if it is more that jumpers won't write or anons won't read anything longer
Likely the former because of the character limit here, but the latter may have justified their choice since wordloaf is clunky in this posting format. I think even Shard's 3+ posts per writeup is decent enough to get a point across without going full-tilt at proper (short) fic chapters with.5+ posts per jump, but even in that range you'd only get one pivotal scene if you're writing it like a normal story instead of a more prolonged digest/overview.
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>>98149013
I've started a writeup where I was thousands of words in before even the first hour of the first jump was covered. I had to start over with a short version, then again with a short short version just to get that chain to its second jump. On the other hand the chains that go on for many jumps have little or no writeup to them.

I generally don't post my writeups, long or short, because they're not written with the intention of ever being read. I don't even read then myself. The act of writing itself is a means of giving substance to what would otherwise only exist in my head, the end product is meaningless.
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>>98149013
I write absurd amounts, I used to post PDFs of my stories of my Jumper's travels. I am rewriteing my rewrite of the first jump I am at 96 pages though a good portion of that is stuff that needs to be rewritten.
I do all of that for me. Because I like writing it. I am probably am writing many many times too much. TLDR is a real thing. However as I said I do it for me. I enjoy sharing it. I hope people will read it but I understand most people will see the length and check out immediately. That's fine. If you are looking to write your own stuff I say worry about what you want to do first and worry about if anyone will read it second.
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>>98149013
I use to do writing, but it took so long and I lack free time. When I sit down the words do not flow and it can take an hour to get a paragraph. Same problem with jump making.
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>>98153419
Try writing just anything for a while. Like just open a text file and, with nobody as your witness, just type every single thing that's in your head, like just write up an incomprehensible stream of consciousness monologue for a few minutes
It helps sometimes
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>>98151823
>96 pages
First thought this was a lot, but I realized that if I give each year 600 words like I wanted to originally, it's going to come out to 24 pages.
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>>98154022
>First thought this was a lot,

That's not even a finished story just a start. However I am me. However don't be afraid to go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb. You write what you want, If you want a paragraph and that's good for you it's fine. If you are a masochist like me apparently wants to write a novel for each world go for it.
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>be in a Bathyscaphe in the Mariana Trench.
>Accio Satoru Gojo
Is this a viable stalling tactic at least?
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>>98155912
>Accio Satoru Gojo
In HP canon a wizard can Accio living creatures like salmon, but not another adult like Hagrid.

Unless you are using the Elder Wand or the spell is empowered in some way, upper limit is probably knocking him to the ground before the spell fails.
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>>98156790
nta but would it be possible to Accio his clothes off of him? You could mock him saying you didn't think it was that cold out. He would beat the ever loving shit out of you but it would be a moral victory. He would certainly remember you.
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>>98157203
>Accio his clothes off
Oh certainly. Accioing someones belt/pants would actually work pretty well now I think about it.
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>>98157817
Accio their shoes instead. Less embarrassment value, but higher chance of them slipping and bashing their head on the ground, or just being forced off balance. Harder to just grab and stop as well.
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>>98159497
Plus you can transfigure a bunch of spikes on the ground that you can ignore since you will have shoes while they don't.
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>>98159502
Or instead of spikes do something really evil. Legos.
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>>98159553
Lego's are just very small caltrops that fit together.
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>>98163033
Quack Quack you crazy water fowl. Hope the jump is going well.
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>>98163353
Generic is making a more Epic-focused D&D Jump, so it makes me feel like I'm pissing into the wind because I know most people want power instead of quality, but I'm refamiliarizing with niche mechanics and Dragon magazine content. The writers on the Candlekeep forum generally consider Dragon mags to be canon, and thus so do I. There's a lot of weird rulings I have to make like how Samurai was ported into a mainline book but Sohei wasn't. On top of that, I'm trying to balance everything against Classes and Feats so people don't just spam Classes. Part of the way I've found to do this is by expanding mechanics and or bundling options. Items for example is as simple as offering specific items with a higher gold value than the allowed general item purchase. I like being specific, but I've spent the last like 4 hours just rereading things trying to figure out one balanced and appropriately themed item. I'd post it because it's 100CP, but I don't want to give Generic any ideas. I'm still not sure if I'm going to work this year, but holy fuck am I not making this simple for myself. The circle I am trying to square is very big.
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>>98163400
A bit of advice that you can take or leave as you like. Don't worry about what some other guy is doing. I am not going to get in to what people think about Generic, It doesn't matter here. Just make the best jump you can. I wish I could help you with how to balance this or that but fuck if I know mate. I would just say go with interesting and neat ideas for abilities. Also I wouldn't obsess about balance. Forgotten Realms/DnD is pretty unbalanced as it is. Try playing a fighter and seeing how fair that feels. So Good luck I guess.
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Hello guys, here is 0.1 of my Pokémon Legends: Z-A jump.
>https://files.catbox.moe/wi8gnu.pdf
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>>98163573
Based
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>>98163400
>I don't want to give Generic any ideas
Why are you so obsessed with this as some sort of competition
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>>98164034
I wrote two paragraphs and then deleted them. Been sitting here just staring at this. The short answer is I just don't like Generic. Generic and Spaz are the same person in my mind. Effort and quality are measurements of care. Our Jumpchain philosophies are just different. Like how I've argued several times power levels should be limited, or how Generic Jumps are fundamentally lazy power grabs that disincentivize niche but relevant Jump use and creation. Har har har, Forgotten Realms and exploits, but as a RAWfag most of the time, most exploits I've seen I'd argue don't actually work such as Thought Bottle abuse. It's certainly the strongest setting I've touched since redoing things.
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