>>98146398 >Bruce Willis in Die Herd That's the one where he walks barefoot through the cow patties then takes an assault rifle to the entire farm, right?
>>98146540 Why should they have to let go of their characters? And domain play does end eventually, when the characters die from old age, or in battle, or from plots against them. And then the characters' children can be the next group of adventurers. Or at least, the new characters can adventure in a changed realm.
>>98146608 How is it cringe or for faggots? Its definitely a lot less gay than your average 5e campaign where fully half the characters are homosexuals.
>>98146617 It shows that you can't let go and need everything to be some epic interconnected marvel style cinematic universe. Which is for fags. >a lot less gay than your average 5e campaign where fully half the characters are homosexuals. Stop playing with and making homo characters then.
>>98146398 >Who would be more remembered through history? I'm willing to bet more people today are aware of Die Hard than Charlemagne. I'm not pleased by that thought, mind you.
>>98146486 >Die herd is his german art haus phase, mostly just wandering around an empty farm with different guns looking confused. No action, lots of fog and lighting effects, long pans, inspired by a lot of Belatar stuff and Bruce's frontotemporal dementia.
>>98146593 >DM kills off your old character >For once the player is actually invested in "Muh home town burned down" since their bubbling with "I am going to track this fucker back to his house and shit in his entire family lineage" levels of seethe over a favourite character being killed. Behold, actual investment
>>98147490 No one implied that. Your characters being able to die doesn't change the fact that domaintards want all their characters to be a special interconnected dynasty.
>>98147320 Not even the ACKS shills want to talk about ACKS right now, because they're scared people will tell go to kickstarter and rat them out for using undisclosed AI art in their products, so they're lying low.
>>98146398 Why yes, I AM making a game around starting as a wretch with potential, slowly building magical might and retainer support as her domain grows from a relatively small titan skull in the slums to a dedicated castle that can launch assaults on other fortifications from a distance. If she dies before she accomplishes her goal, sure, she'll be forgotten, but a successful conquest will inspire other magical potentials across the lands to finally beat back the devils and demons who think they've won.
Goes to show that one doesn't have to hinge on D&D forever and can actually make whatever they want. Just like one doesn't need to make threads on /tg/ whining about what other people need or don't need to do, or whining about why this or that thing isn't popular, or the other inane shit that gets spammed here every day.
>>98148207 Just follow the posts, retard. No one cares how you play and you should play in whatever way is fun for you and your group. That doesn't make domain play not for fags.
>>98148220 lmao reading retards who think >everything is personally heckin valid! still try and get people to stop liking what they don't like is god damn hilarious.
>>98146398 I don't know about that. The whole impetus for Dungeons and Dragons was that Gary's players enjoyed the dungeon crawling minigame more than the domain level Chainmail campaign.
With that said, I do like faction systems like SWN or Reign for producing a dynamic world.
>>98146398 >not only an AI voice but an AI script Even listening on 2x speed it still drones on in that dull and boring way that somehow only AI can achieve.
>>98146398 >Your characters need to be conquerors and builders. Even if we were to accept the preceding points, this conclusion just doesn't follow from them. Die Hard wouldn't be a better movie if it told about politics and governance instead of a badass cop killing terrorists. Having maximum impact on a fictitious setting isn't inherently the goal of RPGs, anon. Having a fun, interesting, hopefully even memorable adventure is. Obviously taking care of whatever's threatening the peace of the realm is doing something and contributing a lot - the contribution being the continuation of said peace - so in actuality not just your conclusion but your premises are false.
>>98149442 That's his secret anon, the ACKshills are always in the room with him, so he gets to complain about them anywhere he goes. Because they're inside his head
>>98150910 Part of the antiacks story is the author being litigational. The same anons likely do have enough against ACKS they can easily take it to kickstarter. T hey haven't. So their either lazy, pussies or both.
>>98146398 My game does have Domain play, it is called Pendragon and it starts with the players already having their own manor and, over 80ish years, they and their family gain more and more Honor, Glory, and Holdings, plus the wealth to improve these holdings into the mightiest of citadels if they so choose.
>>98152422 That would require him to talk about games rather than bitching about drama, and therefore is haram. The 10,000 year Fatwa against ACKS can only be solved though Jihad, ect, ect, so on, so forth.
>>98152460 There's plenty of mid games out there with obnoxious fans. Not many out there that have so many people excavating the Sahara with their cunts. Sorry, let me rephrase that. Not many out there that have so many "people" excavating the Sahara with their cunts.
>>98152460 I've heard good things about ACKS 1e. The best thing people can say about ACKS 2e is that "the author is BASED". If that's the best praise, you know it sucks.
>>98154408 ACKS 2e solves some rules issues, fixes a few classes, combines most of the 1e non-class supplemental material, but has some AI art, has an expansive page count, and has a baked-in setting. It's greatest strength is it's greatest weakness; it has rules for everything.
>>98146398 AD&D was designed for domain play. It was the entire point of the game. Most people never thought about why the dieties had stats in Deities and Demigods. It's because you were evnetually supposed to take your armies against the drow, or the orcs, or the Hobgoblins, or the githyanki and KILL THEIR GODS. Because their Gods were directly responsible for them being evil.
>>98156718 ACKS managed to fuck up basic combat. ACKS consistently takes any possible rule, and produces the most laborous, blandest interpretation of it, resulting in a game that's ridiculously slow-paced and tedious.
>>98156815 He's wrong about being supposed to kill gods (it should be something you can try though, for lesser ones) but he is right that AD&D was meant for BASED domain play and conquering land for your characters to pass on to their children.
Who the fuck gives a shit about land administration or whatever? If I wanted to do that I would boot up Civilization 6 or get Carcassonne from my tabletop closet.
>>98156798 >AD&D was designed for domain play It really wasn't. It just had a couple of stupid rules that no one ever actually used because the fighter's 100 men at arms wouldn't fit in the dungeon.
>>98149403 Tabletop Truth is VirtualOptim, an infamously retarded faggot who is a terminal contrarian and was initially banned for unironically trying to say FATAL was a good game. Every time there's been a FATAL thread where some faggot tries to argue that you just need to use the online character generator, that's Virt. He's a decade+ nogames who has been trying and failing to make himself famous through /tg/.
If his opinions seem retarded and nonsensical, along with being lazy faux-culture war bullshit, it's because he's literally never played anything, but attached himself to traditional games because he thinks he's got an untapped market to shill to.
>>98146398 More people know of hercules or achilles than charlemagne or agamemnon. The wandering hero badass was always more famous than the guy running an estate.
Killing dragons is also more interesting than dealing with taxes or whether the peasants poached this winter.
>>98162017 People also know King Arthur and Gilgamesh and other warrior kings, and then you get the best of both worlds in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
>>98161164 It's not about "land administration" it's about being a ruler and a king. That is the final goal of adventuring that raises your efforts above that of a mere savage killer. That doesn't mean you stop adventuring, but it does mean that you put effort into leaving a legacy. What else are you going to do with 200,000 gp?
>>98162387 >That is the final goal of adventuring that raises your efforts above that of a mere savage killer. And I don't care? Sure that's the "goal" but the minutiae of rulership are boring compared to adventuring. All that stuff can be a fade to black at the end and is in fact better off for it. Like hell I'm going to argue with people over taxes and move knights around when I could be fighting dragons and shit.
>>98162304 People don't care about King Arthur's tax policy or diplomacy with other kings. They carr about him and his knights setting out on adventures and gallivanting through the countryside. Same with Gilgamesh, nobody ever gave a fuck about him administrating Uruk- in fact, the point of Gilgamesh is that he doesn't care about administrating Uruk until the end.
And Romance of the Three Kingdoms is specifically a turbulent civil war where people were fighting each other and manuevring around each other, not sitting in castles and arguing about taxes.
>>98163540 Actually yeah. Rules for big battles that aren't get out of the way, but are more than abstracted calvinball would be useful for a lot of games.
>>98161222 >nigger trying to imply their “games” matter again That’s like saying a billion jeets voting paddle ball as the best sport with their interest makes it true.
>>98163828 No. I'm saying if people wanted domain play, they'd seek it out. They don't and only pretentious poseur faggots who don't have the white in their neckbeards to give their opinion about the way things used to any weight are the ones constantly prattling about "real" this or that, despite having never read, nor played, anything older than 4e.