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Welcome to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TMNT) General!
Previously:
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Mattel
>Mattel announced as the new license holder, will start releasing toys in spring 2027
NECA
>Last Ronin Re-Evolution sets shipping from the NECA store
>Ben Cooper TMNT wave shipping
>Mirage City at War Karai, Last Ronin Lost Years Nightwatcher April, Mirage Bodycount Casey, Mirage Nobody, Mirage Cyborg Donatello, Mirage Raphael as Shredder, Last Roning Lost Years Casey Marie with Turtle Tots shipping from NECA Store & showing up at Target
McFarlane Toys
>IDW TMNT Page Punchers wave 1 is hitting Target & Online (Leo, Don, Foot Ninja, Shredder)
>IDW TMNT Page Punchers wave 2 (Mikey, Raph, Rocksteady, Bebop) up for pre-order
>IDW TMNT Page Punchers wave 3 (Samurai Turtles Leo and Donnie)
Mezco
>One:12 Shredder up for pre-order
>One:12 movie TMNT up for pre-order
Playmates Toys
>Mutant Mayhem Battle Arena wave on pegs
>Mutant Mayhem Chrome Dome being found/shipping
>Godzilla x TMNT wave 1 at Target
>Godzilla x TMNT wave 2 coming this fall
>TMNT x G.I.Joe coming
>Re-issues of Army Turtles and Turtle Tank coming
>Last wave of Tales of TMNT including Tokka, Rahzar and Scale Tail
>Re-issues of 2012 Turtles, Shredder and Metalhead
Super7
>Ultimates Wave 13 shipping
>New O-Rings revealed
JoyToy
>Metalhead, Roadkill Rodney pack, and Turtle Van up for pre-order
>Leatherhead & Metalhead shipping
>Useful Links:
TMNTToys, a useful resource for TMNT toy history: http://www.tmnttoys.com/
Necastore: https://thenecastore.com/
Toyark: https://www.toyark.com/category/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-toy-news
Archive:
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/TMNT%20General/
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Timber
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Tokka
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Scale Tail
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It's also confirmed at Toy Fair that these 3 figures shown last year there are cancelled. So yeah, thanks Mattel.
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Good to see you update more stuff in the OP this time, but you forgot to update about Joytoy Robo Bebop and Rocksteady and Super7 2k3 April news.
Also remove the Mezco stuff. Those preorders are finished.
And the Jinglihung exclusives from Wonderfest(?) are now more widely available.
Probably some NECA stuff can be updated too. I don't know.
Just trying to help you make a better OP, so don't take it personally.
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Was there ever a toy of Radical?
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>>11713108
Do we know if Playmates owns the molds or Paramount? Could it be a Star Wars situation? Disney for example owns all Star Wars molds Hasbro/Kenner made because Lucas made the toys deal so if let's say Disney gave the SW license to Mattel or Jazwares they can reissue those old Hasbro/Kenner molds.
Or what if Mattel makes articulated figures in the style of old Playmates Toys? Inspired by them?
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>all this crying of Playmates losing the license
It's not only here btw, I see it everywhere. Imagine if Hasbro lost the Star Wars or Marvel licenses, imagine the reactions.
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It's possible Mattel will do a bad job tho.
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>>11713136
>don't know what to tell you buddy but as we see it? nostalgia is what sells and the bread and butter of any toyline
>okay they should make 2003 designs
>NOT LIKE THAT NOOO
so why is neca making Fortnite turtles? the designs look a lot like 2003. how come no one has taken the idea of a Zombie Baxter or dark turtles from there it was great
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>>11713108
Unless Mattel sublicenses it to Playmates or works out a deal with them to use the molds, that's gonna be it.
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>>11713131
Don't reply to the rat.
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>>11713123
Wrong
Sport turts
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Vintage bros... it's fucking over
>>11713108
Nope
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>>11713163
>he thinks Mattel won't do the same kind of crap
Oh boy
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No one's asking this question, now that Mattel will have the TMNT license, will this affect Lego? I know Lego is releasing a Brickheadz set in april this year but will they do more? Will Mattel Brick Shop make sets in 2027? I'm personally ok with MBS making sets because Mega did a better job then Lego with the license and if Lego kept making sets they would probably only make 18+ sets for afols that cost an arm and leg.
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>>11713203
Active monthly player numbers are in freefall. You don't have to pretend you like a shitty video game that even the player base is quitting en masse just because NECA are making Ninja Turtles toys from it.
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>>11713168
Mattel would just make new molds based off the designs of the vintage toys. Whatever Playmates has they've likely already given us. The molds would be degraded and in need of serious repair if they still had all of them. A number of items were obviously of bootleg quality or new sculpts meant to look like the vintage toys.
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>>11713243
They could do that, right? Weren’t the first wave of Super7 Ultimates figures based on the classic Playmates toy designs? I wonder why they stopped doing that.
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>>11713263
Correct, and if Mattel wanted they could make a 6 or 7 inch adult line just like Super7, because Playmates can no longer complain. I would suggest anyone who has Ultimates to hold onto them, because Mattel would more than likely do an adult line at a similar scale. I would find it unlikely that Mattel does large vehicles like the Party Wagon at that scale. Although in Origins they did deliberately make some vehicles roomy enough to work with Masterverse.
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Better pics from Toyark:
>Toy Fair 2026 – Playmates Toys TMNT, TMNT x Godzilla, and TMNT x G.I. Joe
https://www.toyark.com/2026/02/15/toy-fair-2026-playmates-toys-tmnt-tm nt-x-godzilla-and-tmnt-x-g-i-joe-58 3306
Man, I hope I find the 2012 re-issues before they end production, new packaging rocks.
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>>11713283
Chronicles figures are 6.5 inches and so are K-Pop Demon Hunters and most likely 2027 DC collector figures so I'm 100% sure that's the scale TMNT collector figures will have. I'm more curious and excited for the kids line, I think the Mutant Mayhem era figures were great and Playmates really tried to keep them at an affordable price point so I'm curious how much will prices increase under Mattel since they probably also pay a bigger fee to Paramount because Skydance wants money.
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>TMNT Origins relies on vintage Playmates synergy.
>The Toxic Crusaders line was supposed to be parallel to the vintage Turtles line.
>YFW Paramount and Mattel manage to convince Troma to do a TX collab.
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Speaking of, Trick or Treat Studio revealed progress on their Toxic Crusaders line. Yvonne was shown unpainted before, and famously got released as an April O'Neil figure in the Turtles line. Now we get to see a more finalized figure. Melvin is the new one, and he comes with snap on armor pieces that turn him into Toxie. Their priority looks to be geared towards making unproductive figures.
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That world of TMNT branding seems awesome, too bad it amounts to nothing. Honestly i'm disappointed at Playmates final offerings, not much for me. Some of the crossover sculpts are good but I'm not into crossover figures so there's literally nothing for me to get excited. I'll miss playmates. Don't have much hope for Mattel but I'll judge when we see stuff at next years Toy Fair.>>11713286
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There are still tons of characters they could do (like from the Red Sky seasons), but instead we get the turtles in outfits they wore for like, two scenes in one episode tops.
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>>11713482
I guess I'm just bummed at the lack of Archie. Thats like, my favorite TMNT universe, and theres so, so many good characters to get toys in it.
>>11713480
Dregg. Mung. Hi Tech. Megavolt. Medusa. The Cyber Turtles. The secondary mutations turtles.
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>>11712918
convenient carrying handle for pup.
>>11713017
They look like bad customs.
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>>11713176
yeah this is a lateral move.
>>11713263
hopefully super7 can continue now.
>>11713283
I guess as long as they're to scale, i wouldn't hate mattel ones, even though they wouldn't be as good.. they'd surely cost half as much
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Oh, I thought it had been made by Playmates to sell random stuff from their past catalog. So, I guess any legacy merchandise not based off the newest interpretations will just be called world of TMNT?
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>>11712916
Roughly what scale are these? The 5" TMNT or one of the other sizes?
>>11712908
Please let the Dragonfly for He-man Origins. I want to stick Sgt Slaughter and crossover Origins Leo together for missions.
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>>11713537
Take a guess
>An all-new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles x G.I. Joe crossover line pairs characters from both franchises in reimagined 4.5-inch figures. The assortment includes Leonardo X Snake Eyes, Donatello X Dial-Tone, Michelangelo X Shipwreck, Raphael X Roadblock, Shredder X Cobra Commander, Krang X Destro, Slash X Storm Shadow, Bebop X Ripper, Rocksteady X Buzzer, and April X Scarlett. The line also features two vehicles, the Turtle-Fly Copter and the A.W.E. Shell-Striker, with products arriving exclusively at Target beginning in August. Figures are priced at $15.99 for ages 4 and up, while vehicles feature spinning blades, missile-firing functions, and figure compatibility.
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>>11713091
Going off MOTU as precedent
>playmates/spinmasters-esque budget action figure line with limited articulation (8 to 12 poa)
>6" ML/Masterverse collector oriented line that covers more of the turtles legacy stuff (super mutation, 2003, fast forward, basically anything neca hasnt already gotten to)
>handful of blindbag lines
>as many turtle vans as batmobiles
>a few playsets
As for crossover I expect to see DC × MOTU alongside TMNT × Street Sharks come 2027. Maybe they can do another Turtles/Batman line in 2028 to coninside with the next batman movie.
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>>6" ML/Masterverse collector oriented line that covers more of the turtles legacy stuff (super mutation, 2003, fast forward, basically anything neca hasnt already gotten to)
Along with figures with original designs but have pieces to make "default" versions of the characters a la New Eternia.
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>>11713527
it's weird to see a vehicle that isn't massively undersized
>>11713636
seriously who the fuck thought that was an okay design? and she's one of the BETTER ones from that show.
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>>11713698
At the very least Mattel might pull a Sun-Man and have them "guest star" in the TMNT Origins line.
Maybe even have them released alongside similar characters IE Ripster in a wave with Ray Fillet or Armaggon, if Extreme Dinosaurs is used, T-Bone in a wave with a Triceraton.
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Bingo.
I also should have noted we should expect to see more TMNT vehicles show up in Hot Wheels. Just like Batmobiles have been a staple of the line for the last 20 odd years so too will shellraisers, party wagons, turtle blimps, etc be aswell.
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We're already getting promo shots for the comic. You're an airhead if you think they wont try to have the turtles piggyback the street sharks/extreme dinosaurs.
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So which of these will get canceled?
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>>11714132
let me start over
>There's a dolphin mutant called Fin Harris
>The pun must be on 'fin' but, is there a celebrity called Finn Harris or something?
>It can't be that he was just some guy named Finn Harris before he was mutated, and that's why. Because he was a dolphin before he was mutated, not a human with a name. And anyone naming him, e.g. Bebop and Rocksteady, would not just call him something that boring.
Following me now?
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It's definitely a lot bigger than any turtle copter has been so far, most of them just seat one turtle, with two others hanging onto the landing gear for dear life..
like I get it, it's hard to make vehicles in scale with figures. even GI Joe, with its much smaller figure size, had trouble. the HISS tank looks cool, but it's scarcely larger than a forklift.
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In the Mutants Unleashed game, Fin Harris was originally a dolphin. And it was the name for the dolphin mutant template because there were lots of them.
https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Fin_Harris_(Point_Grey)
The closest I can guess regarding his name being a reference is that there is an environmental activist named Finn Harries. I don't think he's ever done anything with dolphins though. He is one of those Climate Rebellion protesters that glues himself to the road.
I guess that might be it?
It has to be reference to something or some sort of pun. Most of the other new mutants had punny names, like Cammy Leon.
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god, these ninja turtle designs are perfect.
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heads seem very small. Unless they're like 8 feet tall or more, it feels disproportionate. Let me see how it looks if I tweak it...
hmm.. looks a lot better. though I had to tweak their hands bigger too or it didn't fit.
also... the backs of the head and the chins do seem a little odd, but those have always been troublesome areas on turts, especially making them in 3d
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>>11714928
it is rather weird making their plastrons into bulging muscles. Usually the smooth plastron serves as a nice contrast to the bulging muscles on their limbs. But on the other hand, it does kind of resemble how the TOP shell sometimes looks on a turtle, so... Iunno. it's not fucking ridiculous, it's just "lizard people with tits" ridiculous.
You know what I'm surprised we've never seen? I mean... these days everyone coats their entire wrist and ankle area in endless tape because they think that is so cool (it kind of is on a human, especially when the rest of their clothing is also all strips of cloth, but here? eh..), but if they left the arms bare.. how cool would it be to get scale detail that looks like this. all spiky forearms... at least raphael could. Feels like Batman's gauntlet spikes. I mean if not the TMNT then at least surely some version of Slash or Tokka ought to have these.
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>https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Roller_Blade_(unreleased_action_f igure)
I ain't smilin at that. It's always the GOOD toys that never make it
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I feel like there's a reason for that
I bet, a huge amount of the time, when a line isn't doing so well, they decide to make a hail mary or whatever that is in catholic football, and do one really interesting push of a new direction to get customers back in.. and so if that one gets canceled, it looks as if it ended just before it was gonna get good.
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>>11715010
Ironicically, that's pretty much been their policy since the early 90s.
>Toxic Crusaders
>Darkwing Duck
>Skeleton Warriors
>Monster Squad
>Earthworm Jim
>Stuff like Jim Lee Leo and that Party Wagon that turns into a giant Metalhead
>Jackie Chan Adventures
>An entire Ripping Friends line
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>>11715819
nono, I mean
within the company, one group says "We gotta make one last big PUSH or this line will fail"
and another group, higher up, says "you're canceled"
so that's why the really COOL stuff is always what didn't actually come out. Right at the end. Because it was designed as a company-saver, but it was too late.
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they believed that the 'hail mary' as it were, would NOT make them any money, and that all the effort put into producing it would lose them more than canceling the line entirely
They see the line as a gangrenous limb to be cut off, not as a potential moneymaker.
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>>11716083
Same here, but once I read your reply I realized you described "the Power Team" from Video Power lol
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>>11716389
is that the issue? I don't have it in hand, the pictures just look quite wrong
though I imagine it's kinda tough to get right a guy who looks so weird, but under the makeup he's just kind of a regular jewish guy.
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Oh snap, that is indeed a varied team.
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>>11716408
I misunderstand shit all the time, and I love explaining.
also I'm trying to cut down on the insults. they're so... fun. and creative, but I'm pretty sure the lord doesn't want us doing that unless it's constructive rebuke.
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Brian Flynn told Pixel Dan that he's waiting until things are sorted out with Mattel and the license but sounded like they plan to do new Ultimates, implying Mattel may have the power like Playmates to tell other companies they're not allowed to make certain toys, and Super7 has to wait until Mattel decides what they're cillector toys are like. Super7's also trying to move to retail with budget Ultimates priced in the $35 range, which could conflict with Mattel, since they're also trying to move away from pre-orders. Right now they have Thundercats and a cost reduced version of Godzilla at Target and have been moving more and more into Walmart. So they're doing the O-ring while they wait. On the flip side Pixel Dan is hyping these up and it will be fun to see a 1/18 line of 87 Turtles.
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>Brian Flynn told Pixel Dan that he's waiting until things are sorted out with Mattel and the license but sounded like they plan to do new Ultimates, implying Mattel may have the power like Playmates to tell other companies they're not allowed to make certain toys, and Super7 has to wait until Mattel decides what they're cillector toys are like.
Okay that could be worse
>Super7's also trying to move to retail with budget Ultimates priced in the $35 range
Fucking awesome, there's a lot they could cut down on. like they don't have to be such heavy, solid plastic-
>which could conflict with Mattel, since they're also trying to move away from pre-orders.
oh... right.. shit.
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COLLAB. Eh? Eh? Super7? Mattel? Howbout you guys kiss. Sit in a booth and sip a meltshake together, then make us some playmates-styled Ultimates-scaled guys under a new label, at an affordable price, so you BOTH get rich as fuck. Sound good?
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I was surprised at Toyfair by the number of toys Super7 had at the $25-35 prices ranges. Flynn's been saying in a lot of recent interviews that he wants Ultimates at retail, because with pre-orders customers have to pay more since the figures are produced in smaller volumes and physical retailers can buy bigger numbers at a level that isn't possible really in a made to order business model with direct customers. They were also blowing lots of money on packaging. The retail Thundercats are on a standard card and bubble with less accessories. The line started with reissues but also slight upgrades and now new scuplts. The same thing could happen with Turtles.
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Oh yeah, I was interested in their Monkian to customize him into something else, but I want the version with the open mouth head, and the cheap one now lacks that. which I understand, but.. I wanted to make him into a cool lion man or something with some putty.
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>Okay that could be worse
It could go either way. Mattel are a lot less klepto and tantrum-y than Playmates. Playmates never wanted any other company making Turtles while Mattel sublicense their IPs out, like for Mondo's MOTU lines. They also never fucked with Four Horsemen for their Mythic Legions MOTU tributes, which 4H have just experienced from the Red Sonja IP holder after they made a figure that has a resemblance her.
On the other hand, there was the Bratz lawsuit, but that was a different situation.
The fact that Super7 want their stuff at retail might be an issue, I can see Mattel being a lot more open to negotiation than Playmates ever were provided that Super7 doesn't try anything underhanded.
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Is anyone else as hung up on the turtle fly as much as I am? The line up was great, there's alot to celebrate, but that damn helicopter is living rent free in my head. Looks like the sort of thing you'd expect from the old Coleco Rambo toyline, it's amazing.
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Mattel also took MOTU back from S7 the second they decided to do their own toys with the license again. It will probably depend a lot on what they want to make themselves; mondo for example seems to only get a pass because mattel simply has no interest in making figures at the price ranges they operate in.
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Bratz is kinda hilarious
I fucking despised it, so I was happy to see them lose to Mattel because of a technicality, but I also mostly don't believe in that technicality, but I also understand why it exists (You are paying the fucker, how can you not own everything he makes on your time?)
then it came back anyway, but less gross this time, so whatever.
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>>11716756
I appreciate its size.
I hope someday we get a S7-scaled Foot Cruiser.
>>11716842
what this toy came out like a year and a half ago. The prototype looked fine, the final result didn't.
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hmmmm, I took another look... it's not THAT bad, at least the main face isn't. the alt faces do look weird. But it's still not on par with the TMNT movie figs.
They got his nose great, but I think the eye sockets don't look right. Paul had pretty thick, semitic eye bags even when he was young, and his eyes never opened quite this far. It's part of what made his jokey sarcastic vocal tone work, when he'd scoff something off for example. I think they kinda did here what they did to Tatsu's eyes, and just missed the subtlety
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I don't see that.. the face just looks slightly off to me.
this reviewer suggested that it's kind of a cartoon likeness, which yeah I guess. but to me, part of what makes pee-wee work is that he's a real guy in a suit that doesn't fit, and everything is just slightly offputting and wonky. So I can see why it'd be hard to nail.
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>After more than four decades of storytelling, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is gearing up for its landmark 300th issue, and IDW Publishing is planning a celebration worthy of the Heroes in a Half-Shell.
>Arriving in comic shops this July, TMNT #300 marks a historic milestone for the franchise. To honor the occasion, IDW is launching a special blind bag program featuring a massive lineup of cover artists. Highlights include multiple versions of a previously unseen cover by co-creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird, a striking variant by J. Scott Campbell, and additional surprises still under wraps.
>The issue also launches a major new storyline titled “The City That Never Dies,” written by Eisner Award winner Gene Luen Yang and illustrated by Freddie E. Williams II. The arc begins with a shocking development: Splinter has returned from the dead. His resurrection sets the stage for an emotional and high-stakes chapter that promises lasting consequences for the IDW TMNT Universe.
>In addition to the main story, the milestone issue features a backup tale from Kevin Eastman and longtime TMNT writer Tom Waltz. Joined by a lineup of classic Turtle artists, the backup celebrates the many eras that have defined the series across generations.
https://aiptcomics.com/2026/02/19/tmnt-300-news/
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That mutant 4 pack is on Amazon now, if you're interested.
https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Accessories/dp/B0G FPHRLM3?&linkCode=sl2&tag=preternia -20&linkId=135e571f74a3656d13ede6d0 2e0c5ff0&language=en_US
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>>11717672
oh totally
it's funny that we're all taught shit like how sunk-cost mentality is a 'fallacy' even though basic common sense tells you that it's wiser to take a more calculated risk to get more return on what you have already put in than to just give up and walk away...
yet businesses today seem to be the worst of every philosophy. they do whatever it takes to lose money. They snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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I was really hoping that the final year of playmates TMNT were reissues of every iteration of the TMNT they've ever worked on as one final hoorah
>classics
>2003
>2010
>Rise
>the 2014 Michel bay ones
it would've been very cool imo. Ah well.
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[First time poster, not a toy collector]
Does anyone know if Mezco is going to reprint/rerelease these action figures? I just learned these things even exist and I think they look ridiculously amazing. I want them, but they are selling on the second-hand market for $1000 (CAD). I'm willing to pay $500 for them, but not 1000! I could buy a car for that price! I don't know shit about action figures. I just want to know if I'll ever get a chance to buy these things directly from the makers again for MSRP. Does that even happen in this community? Their official site says "Wait List" on the page with this product but does that even mean they plan to re-release them? I don't know...
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>>11713148
It’s not going to happen. The publisher of Toy Collector magazine said that Playmates is 100% out of the TMNT market.
I noticed their booth had their 60 anniversary logo on it and said they were more than green.
I don’t know how petty Mattel is but Playmates cockblocked them on making regular versions of the turtles during Turtles of Grayskull now they are having their revenge.
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>>11713263
Playmates didn’t like that S7 was making upsized versions of their vintage figures so they complained to Paramount and they told S7 to cool it. Flynn had about 14 sculpts he couldn’t use since he now had to switch gears and do another direction. He’s been pretty vocal since this happened about getting back to the vintage remakes. The other problem is he’s been shifting towards those $35 stripped down figures at retail. If he can do the Ultimates again he might have to do them as the $65 figures or even go higher. That’s how Mondo gets stuff like Real Ghostbusters who Hasbro owns or putting out a 200X line the same time Mattel has a 200X line at retail. RGB they have to be over $100 so they go $101 and MOTU has to be above $95.
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I don’t think Mattel gives a shit about getting those old molds from PM. They have a high end scanning machine, they just have to grab an original and do the scans. Playmates own their own factory and has all the original molds. They just refresh them when they produce those new runs. I forgot who said it but he was over there for his toyline and got to go check out the PM factory. So all those reissues are made off the original tooling.
I was talking to Pixel Dan at a show he was at, he said they gave them a big demo when he visited Mattel. There was some speculation on how close the Origins Leech head and the releases of Demo Man and Geldor were to Classics. They just took the Classics figure and scanned it and adjusted the size for Origins. If they do reissues, they’ll just scan them. If they do an Origins line they will just follow the MOTU format and update it. You can get a pretty good idea of what their TMNT will be like that way just looking at TOG. Same with Origins, just compare it to an original. The person that’s really benefiting is that Mattel VP who overseen this deal at Paramount. I’m sure he still has his stock and it’s gonna go up when their TMNT toys hit.
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>>11718287
Hi. I own this set and it is incredible. It made me dump all my Neca and Super 7 ones. I just actually got the new Casey from them this week. It’s hard to say if it might get a reissue again. It’s had about 3 production runs and there’s a cartoon deco repaint set. Like mentioned jump on that waitlist they have, it doesn’t cost you anything. They had so many people on it they did another run and then a third cause it still was huge but they didn’t sell it on site again, you got a notice your spot converted.
Mezco doesn’t do a lot of reissues but lately they have been. They just put out a reissue of Dr Doom that was about $550 on eBay. The only thing is no one knows what’s going on with licensing. It’s possible they could lose it and not run it again or they could do another run before it’s over. Sorry I don’t have a great answer but hope it helps but I would get on that list.
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>>11718358
So this guy is full of shit, don't listen to him. The set is not incredible and definitely not worth the money. It's overpriced to hell and back.
>>11718287
No they're not. They only did the one run and the crappy cartoon ones. You're better off without them as they use pleather and that is already breaking down. They are not worth more than what they charged, and even that was ridiculous. They're $30 figures at best.
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>>11718108
Its cathartic in a way then, if they go out of business its what they deserve for arbitrarily canceling so many figures over the years for no good fucking reason
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>>11719701
indeed.
just don't forget they also gave us the turtles in the first place. Or rather, the people who worked there almost 40 years ago did. The people who work there now haven't done shit, and just bought a working company and ran it into the ground, something that should be a black mark on your entire fucking life.
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>>11719703
I hate playmates so much because i actually do enjoy their toys most of the time but the hate comes from the fact they have cancelled so many figures i was looking forward too over the years. They are the worst company when it comes to showing off product then canceling it for no good reason. I cant wrap my head around it.
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I know this is /co/ but that new mutation TMNT cartoon stinks. I knew it was going to be different due to the live action scenes in the intro but damn man. They look like cockroaches or something when they mutate. So are there figures from this cartoon?;
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>Playmates pulled the plug on the basic line back in 1993 due to the rise of stuff like Power Rangers and the X-Men and Batman cartoons and kids finding shit like a prisoner cat, a basketball-playing giraffe and April's fatass boss completely stupid forcing PM to spend the last few years doing random shit like Supermutants, Metal Mutants, Jim Lee Turtles etc.
>MM/Tales shat the bed due to Rogen failing to understand that kids today find gross-out/weird style stupid and the sequel pretty much DOA with PM's having just lost the license.
History repeats itself.
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>>11722961
Idk, I've literally just seen an episode today. They had a human guy that mutated and April dressed differently with a browner shade of hair color and they had problems with an alien instead of krang and shredder. I'm only familiar with the early seasons and had no idea this existed until 6:30 am cst when metoons aired it.
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>>11723100
in fairness, the super/metal mutants and jim lee turtles were a direct response to the primary criticism that I, as a lad of eight, was beginning to levy on the turtles who'd been my heroes my entire life. Namely that they look too stumpy, particularly the toys.. and I wanted sleek, tall, superhero-lookin guys, and also things like in that japanimation stuff with armor.
I was NOT into the last lines of the regular toyline where it went silly as fuck and everyone had mismatched feet. So a change was valid.
>>11723123
Yeah that's red sky seasons. You're watching the very end of the '87 show and ...
well, similar to what I was just saying, it was a response to what was wrong with the show: it was too silly and cartoony. so they tried to make it more serious.. problem is, they had zero idea how to actually do that, so they just made it ugly and unpleasant. But in fairness it was already getting pretty ugly before that point, from lack of budget.
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>>11723100
I would have bought secondary characters from the cartoon like Burne and Irma back in the day if I could find them. I would have bought figures like a mutant cat robber, a freaky snake mutant and a hideous mer-man if I could find them.
But all I could find were Turtles dressed as basketballers or firemen or cowboys. And bullshit like basketballer giraffe and fireman Dalmatian were direct continuations of that garbage.
The oversaturation of shitty Turtle variants in 91 did more to kill my interest in the line than things like April's fat boss with toilet paper stuck to his foot. Mind you, I didn't hate the actual cool variants like Gatekeeper Rocksteady, who was the very last TMNT figure I bought in that era. I just hated all of the stupid shit like Mikey as a sailor and Leo as a cop, especially since it made it harder to find figures I did want like Wyrm and Antrax.
And I know. Some of you liked those shitty Turtle variants. But when all you can find on shelves is a million Turtles dressed as shit like clowns and Star Trek characters and you can't find a single new mutant monster to join up with Shredder to fight the Turtles you already own, then the line might as well be dead.
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>>11723298
it is weird how first they made the new toy characters lame, then they stopped making anyone but the core eight at all.
Did they not understand kids would TOTALLY buy a new krang if he got an upgraded body? or maybe Scale Tail in a little mech with legs? or the remaining two Punk Frogs? or like, ... cmon. Space Leatherhead. this shit writes itself.
not to say that I don't like some of the costumes. space raph, samurai leo, these were cool. and the wacky action splinter was quite nice.
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>>11723384
Samurai Leo, and Space Raph and Usagi are also good ones, and I didn't mind most of the Wacky Action ones. A wind-up Leo that can swing his swords and a Mikey that can spin his nunchucks is a novel idea.
I understood that they had to keep the main characters on the shelves, because that was one of the things that killed MOTU. And they needed to make them new to keep retailers happy and to trick parents into buying the same character again. Wacky action, Storage Shell, Talkin' variants? I get it. But I remember seeing Mikey in his gay little sailor outfit and thinking it was really gay. The sports ones were an even bigger case of "why the hell would I buy this?" For every one that was decent or made sense like Sewer Surfing Mikey, there were a dozen that sucked.
And then there were ones that you'd think they would do the whole team of like Undercover Don, but they didn't happen for another 4 years, long after most of the kids that wanted them to recreate those scenes from the first season had become teenagers.
>Space Leatherhead.
I would have bought the fuck out of that.
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>>11723408
exactly.. they forgot how to be cool. It's sad. cool didn't die in the 90s, cool survived. but among TMNT it died.
let's brainstorm other creative ideas, because someday I do plan to start making more kinda custom what-if Super7-ish guys.
Hmm.. Samurai Scumbug would be cool, his antennae are already in a topknot.
Upgraded Fugitoid with a lot more weapons and maybe a holographic face (i fucking miss holograms)
Some kind of riff on Wingnut as something we'd recognize as a Batman variant, either his equivalent of Jean-Paul Valley, or.. a reference to like, the infamous hilarious arctic skiing batman figure.. Either way Screwloose would now be dressed as Nightwing (and be called Tightwing)
obviously robo tokka and rahzar would be amazing, Neca's doing those, but I've always had a fondness for Playmates' versions of the characters..
Uh.. Biker Wyrm?
Robo Tattoo makes me pine for Hiryu no Ken...
Supervillain versions of Dirtbag and Groundchuck perhaps.. We didn't get any proper costumed villains for the hero turtles, just rocksteady and bebop as caped heroes.
Uhh let's see.. foot soldiers in other colors obviously.. and.. okay hear me out, maybe a little redundant, but Slasher Slash? like he's decked out like a horror villain, with a big chainsaw and a creepy mask of some kind (made out of turtle shell maybe?) and like a noose around his neck.
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My nephew turned 4 today and I gave him one of these playmates reissues. He loved it, I never had it as a kid so it's a new one for him he plays with my old ones.
I bought it for myself originally but kind of got the nostalgia out just by holding it, and don't need to start an entire new addiction. I do have a bunch of the Super7/NECA figures though.
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>>11723486
that's awesome
see in our day, THIS was little kids toys. not that playskool buzz lightyear shit.
That's why we graduated to more complex toys. babies getting dumb shit for babies are just gonna 'grow out of it' instead of growing into something better.
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>>11723408
Samurai Leo is the sort of variant I'm still surprised they didnt try to get more mileage out of. How could you come up with a figure that cool and not do a black repaint? It would have sold like crack. I've even done mockups for a Warrior Raphael based on said Samurai Leo with the express purpose of pairing him. with Metalhead Mikey against Winged Warriors Don and Leo.
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>>11723472
There was an obscene amount of potential in alternate Krang bodies alone. Imagine if they did a whole Dimension X range. Just crazy ass-pull monsters left and right.
Triceraton Gladiators seems like a given, some sort of cyborg variant of Baxter could have worked, maybe mutant military versions of Panda Khan and Yojimbo? Might aswell shotgun a few more ideas.
>Heavy weapons Mutagen Man (another potential candidate for the mutant military line)
>Space Ranger Muckman
>Superman themed Ray Fillet variant to pair with a Dark Knight Wignut maybe?
>Wild West Bebop and Rocksteady
>Android Splinter (think Fugitoid but Splinter)
>Shogun Casey Jones
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>>11723570
I like your ideas. I like your ideas a lot.
>>11723698
Hey yeah.. though maybe they didn't wanna step on the musician's toes. also, Slash's personality is supposed to be really dumb, and early 90s metalheads weren't like that yet.
>>11723844
>Well at least it's a man, and he has a good job.
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>>11724164
>Piranoid is ex-Cadmus
>he was fired for insisting sea life is the only thing worth gleaning DNA from
>Even when it was pointed out to him that 'sea life' is like, two-thirds of all life, and represents every phylum.
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>thought it was total bs Mattel stopped the street sharks line because 'bad sales' when I was only ever able to get slamu and the bad guys because everywhere else had them sold out
Turns out I was right. The real reason is because they got turtles. Why continue the knock off when you have the real deal?
It fucking sucks though I was never able to get them all
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>>11724410
a giant company like Mattel has enough resources to produce two toylines at once.
In fact, they can probably produce 1000 toylines at once.
if street sharks was a good seller, Mattel wouldnt be saying no to easy money.
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>>11724410
It's not over. I'm guessing they put it on hiatus less because of TMNT (which hadn't been locked in at the time) and more because they are going balls deep on the MOTU movie.
>>11724434
No, they can't produce 1000 toylines at once without hiring more people. They are in the process of ramping up recruitment to be able to handle what they've just taken on.
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>>11724465
Post your source.
I hope it's not the same one that said the GI Joe crossover was AI or that Metaluna Krang is being tooled, because that guy has more shit flowing out of his mouth than the sewer the Turtles live in.
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>>11724501
There was an anon who would go ballistic over the suggestiion that it was even happening. This general is full of turbo autists in that vein. Bring up the potential behind a Street Sharks and Turtles crossover and he'll crop right up.
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>>11724501
I understand why you'd want us to forget.
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/thread/11708719/#11708881
>inb4 it wasn't me but I had to pretend that nobody said it was AI for reasons
>>11724504
It's funny how a tiny little company like Four Horsemen can put a whole wave of new figures up for preorder including a giant crabman that is 100% new tooling and know how much it will cost to produce and what price bracket each figure fits into before they have started any tooling.
The same goes for every Haslab ever.
And just about every action figure Kickstarter.
And Super7.
And Mondo.
And every company that puts things up for preorder with a minimum year wait until the product will be available.
It seems like NECA is the only company that has no idea how much a figure will cost to produce or what price bracket it will fit until they have tooled it.
Or maybe you are full of shit.
No company is clueless about how much a figure will cost to produce before the tooling is made. They may not know what the exact cost will be, but they have a pretty close estimate before the tooling is made that allows them to price the figures.
EVERY COMPANY DOES.
The fact that you think that's how ANY company operates, going through the MOST EXPENSIVE part of preproduction not knowing how much the final cost will be, just to cancel a figure because it doesn't fit a certain price bracket, is completely fucking insane.
It shows how little you know, and the fact you expect anybody to believe anything you say is hilarious.
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>>11724537
>and know how much it will cost to produce and what price bracket each figure fits into before they have started any tooling.
You are astonishingly stupid. Those figures are all tooled before they put them up for preorder. That's how this works you ignorant fucktard. You don't just assume to know the cost of production on an item and throw a random price up! The factory has to give you a quote based on tooling, based on assembly, paint hits, etc. It's why no one was sure how tariffs were going to fuck everything up.
Just shut the fuck up already.
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>>11724537
>No company is clueless about how much a figure will cost to produce before the tooling is made.
Holy fuck you ARE a moron! Every company has estimates but nothing is set in stone. Especially in a volatile market with plastics and shipping. You are so incredibly fucking dumb.
>And every company that puts things up for preorder with a minimum year wait until the product will be available.
You just think everything magically appears and is ready to go in a year? Fucking idiot! There's so much going on before that, and especially on EARLY HAND PAINTED PROTOTYPES like the Krang. That shit is so early on in the process you can't sit and claim a price on it!
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>>11724504
I'm not sure how that counts as source.
>>11724544
>It's why no one was sure how tariffs were going to fuck everything up.
That's not the case at all. The uncertainty was what it was going to do with shipment costs of the finished product to get to the states. The factories parts, paints, etc come from the local areas or from near by countries not the US. So when a product is finished and they need to tell you the value their uncertainty comes from how much taxes are going to be collected when it reaches shores. Some companies like 4H surprisingly just ate the cost rather than pass the charge to all the customers who preorder those first waves that got hit by tariffs others quickly adjusted costs. At it's core however the issue with these toy products was taxes on the final product.
>Those figures are all tooled before they put them up for preorder.
So does NECA not do that? They are tooled but the manufacturing hasn't started yet for them, it's why people have to wait a year or more on those preorders.
>>11724554
>Holy fuck you ARE a moron! Every company has estimates but nothing is set in stone.
Correct and anon noted at least 4 major companies that handle this better
>EARLY HAND PAINTED PROTOTYPES like the Krang. That shit is so early on in the process you can't sit and claim a price on it!
Anon I encourage you to look up what 4H shows off with every wave preorder. They are always the hand painted prototypes and they are not even in the correct scale. They are doing what you are claiming isn't possible, now that said their is a better answer than "NECA is incompetent" and it's more that 4H knows how to run a business. I always thought that was NECAs issue was they played way to fast and lose with their stuff and they get burned easier for it. They throw all this stuff out without considering how to go forward with it and it leads to these kinds of missteps as we see now.
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>>11724580
>The uncertainty was what it was going to do with shipment costs of the finished product to get to the states
Wrong. It affects every part of the process.
>at least 4 major companies that handle this better
Better than what you fucking moron? They all do it the same way. You're trying to attach what happens with one set of figures ready to go with another that wasn't as far in the process. Go fuck yourself.
>4H shows off
You know nothing about the 4H. The whole line is built on reuse, they also digitally sculpt or print things out. They can kit bash their own shit from all the reused parts.
>I always thought that was NECAs issue was they played way to fast and lose with their stuff and they get burned easier for it. They throw all this stuff out without considering how to go forward with it and it leads to these kinds of missteps as we see now.
You really are a fucking moron. Nevermind they've been in business longer. They aren't having missteps other than the price increases on everything and an insane orange man causing havoc. They are working within what the market allows them to do. Shut the fuck up already.
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>>11724544
>Those figures are all tooled before they put them up for preorder.
Oh god, you're doubling down.
Sure, they have the tooling complete before they put them up for preorder, but it still takes another two years after that for a wave to ship because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>11724554
>Every company has estimates but nothing is set in stone.
And yet every company has the ability to set prices for things with those numbers not set in stone. Except NECA, according to your reasoning.
>Especially in a volatile market with plastics and shipping
If that were such a huge factor on the pricing, nothing would go up for preorder with a set price from any company until it was on the boat.
>especially on EARLY HAND PAINTED PROTOTYPES like the Krang. That shit is so early on in the process you can't sit and claim a price on it!
Except Four Horsemen literally do every year. Every one of the waves they put up for preorder at Legionscon is priced before a single piece of tooling has been made, unless a figure uses parts from a previous figure, like with the mermaid torso in the last major wave to go up for preorder.
But that 10" tall crab man? 100% new parts. No tooling made. But they knew how much they needed to charge.
Pic related is them demonstrating what one of their new figures looks like under its robes, and they explicitly state that it is a 3D printed prototype. This was during the preorder period. Do you really think they would be using a 3D printed prototype if they had already paid for the tooling and could easily use a much more sturdy painted test shot to demonstrate the full capabilities of the figure?
You seem to think NECA would pay tens of thousands of dollars to tool a figure and then cancel it because it doesn't fit the $37 price bracket. They would want a return on that investment, no matter what.
Your claims care absurd.
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>>11724620
>another two years after that for a wave to ship because
Because of production. They're a smaller company and they also have to wait for the factory schedule.
>And yet every company has the ability to set prices for things with those numbers not set in stone
No they don't. You're a retard. If they have a ton of reuse or a buck they can estimate closer, and it ALSO helps if they're ordering by the millions of items like a big company like Hasbro or Mattel.
>If that were such a huge factor on the pricing, nothing would go up for preorder with a set price from any company until it was on the boat.
Fuck you're stupid. They have to know what they're paying as it gets made and ships. If it goes up then they have to adjust for that later.
>Except Four Horsemen
They don't do things the same way as other companies shit for brains. They have 97% reuse that lets them price things out quicker. Bodies, joints, heads, accessories. Reuse. New shit still has to be tooled and priced out.
You are a fucking buffoon.
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>>11724627
>Because of production
Wrong. Production doesn't take two years. It only takes a couple of months once the molds are tooled and fine tuned after the test shots, and the paint masters have been finalised. And those last two steps in preproduction take much less time than the tooling. They constantly give us updates telling us what stage they are at.
>If they have a ton of reuse or a buck they can estimate closer, and it ALSO helps if they're ordering by the millions of items like a big company like Hasbro or Mattel.
And yet 4H did it with a figure that had NO REUSE that was a completely different build to previous figures. 4H. Not Mattel or Hasbro, you fucking imbecile. They set a price for their fucking huge completely new crab man before they had a clue how many they were making. They did it for the war bear. And they do it every fucking year.
>If it goes up then they have to adjust for that later.
Ignoring the tariffs, shipping prices and port fees constantly fluctuate, but shelf prices don't fluctuate according to these two variables. You seriously don't know anything about the real world.
>They have 97% reuse
I am specifically talking about the waves they put up for preorder every November that are 80-90% NEW PARTS. Like the wave that is currently shipping that has the war bear that went up for preorder 2 years ago. The unicorn uses parts from the previous horses, the Yak minotaur is built on the ogre buck, but the rest of the figures at most use one or two old parts, and that's it.
That fucking war bear is 100% NEW and they had costed it out before a single tool was ever made.
And they did it with the lion god last year. And the crab man this year. They know how much to charge for these huge figures before a single bit of tooling has ever been started.
Just like Hasbro knew how much they would need to charge for the Sail Barge before they knew if it would even have enough support to get made.
You don't know shit.
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>>11724675
It takes two years if they have multiple things going through the factory, with one thing lined up after another. Idiot.
>That fucking war bear is 100% NEW and they had costed it out before a single tool was ever made
Wrong again dipshit. They have to get their estimates right and that involves tooling through the factory. Even Hasbro had to get started on the Barge parts to figure that shit out. 4H had to do the same with the dragon. You are a goddamn embarrassing mess.
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>>11724606
So your argument boils down to Neca is an older company that can't into business of digitally sculpt or print things out like smaller business do?
If your goal is to make NECA look like a worse company than the others good job, I think you succeeded with that point...
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>>11724681
NECA hasn't fucked anything up moron. Your stupid ass seems to think the 4H do things the same as any other company when they don't.
>>11724680
I think you succeeded at being a fucking moron. NECA does things like Hasbro, Mattel, McFarlane and on and on, they're not doing things like the 4H and mythic legions.
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>>11724518
I can't blame anyone for thinking it was AI, it's pretty fucking awful.
>>11724524
Makes you curious just how few of us come here if he is crying for shitposters to notice him...
>>11724691
>NECA has licensing fees that 4H do not have to consider.
No one tell him about the five years of colabs they have been doing.
Also I'm not giving a (You) to the clown that thinks 4H studios is younger than NECA as it's horseshoes and hand grenades close(96 vs 99). If this is just shitposting to keep the thread active well you got a few bites today, but if you are actually trying to make a defense for NECA it's going bad for you as again, smaller companies than them have dealt with licenses and didn't get this in over their head.
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>>11724691
>NECA has licensing fees that 4H do not have to consider
They know what their licensing fees cost and how many figures they need to produce for the life of the license, and thus how much of the fee needs to be baked into the price of each figure according to the MOQ before they even start designing a figure. That's irrelevant to the discussion.
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>>11724697
>Makes you curious just how few of us come here if he is crying for shitposters to notice him...
Six of us and that's at most and I'm not even sure it's the same six people week to week because I'm a one day in the month poster at best.
>>11724705
No, see, the anon is telling us that NECA is that retarded that they jump on these things before anything clears and just assumes it'll work out.
That's the defense this anon has been giving for NECA, that they are too stupid to sort this out ahead of time like the other 4 mentioned companies
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>>11724678
>It takes two years if they have multiple things going through the factory
No it doesn't. You should try following them on their socials before you try to talk about shit you clearly have no idea about. Once they take preorders, the remaining preproduction time is between a year and a year and a half. That includes tooling, test shots, paint samples, and any adjustments that need to be made to the molds for details, tolerances and any paint adjustments. Production time is only a couple of months. Shipping is another two months. They are pretty transparent with this info.
You absolutely do not know shit.
>They have to get their estimates right and that involves tooling through the factory.
No it doesn't. Tooling for a normal 6" figure is upwards of $20k. Do you really think they paid for the tooling for a 4 foot long dragon before they even knew if it would be produced?
>Even Hasbro had to get started on the Barge parts to figure that shit out.
Holy fuck, you do actually believe this shit. Do you realise how much the tooling for the barge would have cost? And you think they tooled it before they 100% knew they were going ahead with it? If they did that, then they are sitting on the tooling for the Black Series Rancor and refusing to make it just because it fell short by a couple of hundred backers. Close to $100k worth of tooling just sitting there, because Hasbro needed to make really expensive steel tools just to know how much a toy will cost, and it ends up not being produced. Do you think companies are actually run this way?
You are actually insane. You don't know how manufacturing works.
Keep replying, because it's great that the whole thread gets to witness what a fucking moron you are so that they know you should be ignored from now on
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>>11724716
>No it doesn't.
Yes it does. Maybe you should get your head out of your ass before you talk again.
>No it doesn't
Yes it does. They had to get the estimates from the factory before costing that fucker out.
Appreciate you acting like a fucktard and letting everyone know how little you know. They do have to tool things to get an accurate cost for items. You may want to go back to college since you can't even figure out why toy companies do what thet do.
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>>11724870
Like I said, if I got it, I'll put it together. Hope you like.
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>>11724895
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>>11717063
Agreed, on everything. Was really anticipating this figure, but the head sculpts... geez. They're just "off". Wonder if some artist on eBay or Etsy makes custom PeeWee heads. Until I find that, I'm not buying this figure.
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>>11723570
>https://x.com/dudespostingws/status/2026390880433648063?s=46
MAN, I'd love to see the Turtles / April running around in Krang-like, custom bodies, sort of Godaikin Gardian style, since they have legs.
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>>11724897
oooh I didn't think you had the original. Nice! This is fun.
>>11724913
someone is suggesting that part of the issue is that they didn't use translucent skin plastic this time, but instead thoroughly painted it. I'm not sure, Pee-Wee wore a lot of makeup. I think most of the issues are the eyes. a drop of gloss might help them.
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>>11724944
Your eyes are having a malfunction.
Handsome, but some other guy.
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>>11724961
The NECA "Old Man" could pass as an older PeeWee, paintjob done decently. Even has his widow's peak in the hair that the PeeWee they did is missing.
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>>11724961
Guy who agreed with you before:
I'm really seeing the issues now that you put it side by side. THey're subtle, but many
>nosebridge too wide
>eyes deep brown instead of hazel
>eyebrows solid instead of kinda cloudy gray where the hair thins out against the skin/makeup
>no 5 o'clock shadow (like I mentioned before)
>no widow's peak and hair isn't slicked back properly, instead kind of a micro-pompadour
and like I said at the first criticism, not enough of a deep line under the eyes. what they did on the upper lids they should have on the bottom instead.
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>>11724987
>>nosebridge too wide
No it's not.
>>eyes deep brown instead of hazel
Nope
>>no 5 o'clock shadow (like I mentioned before)
Doesn't always have it, so you're wrong there.
>>no widow's peak and hair isn't slicked back properly, instead kind of a micro-pompadour
Wrong again.
You're trying too hard.
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>>11724846
He's about 10-11" tall and definitely looks like he'd fit as a rando mutant.
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>>11725061
Well look at that, you have no fucking clue who you're talking to. Again.
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>>11725137
I think it was in the range of $85-$95 preordered directly through them. I can't remember exactly. But yeah, it's $120 on BBTS, which is a hefty markup. I'd wait for 4H to start selling them on their store, which probably won't be for at least 2 years.
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>>11725044
Funny how you claim to somehow know who Anons are and how many times they've been banned, unless you're a mod.
Has it not occurred to you that PeeWee's sculpt has bugged a LOT of people, and THAT'S why people are talking about why they didn't buy it? Look, just because you have rose-colored glasses on that "fix" everything you want to like doesn't mean we're "trolling" (and why would we???) when we see reality. I will never let anyone bully me into decrying the reality right in front of my face, on anything, so just stop defending toy errors already and name-calling everyone like we have no eyeballs in our sockets.
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>>11723570
It never made sense to me that this is what Krang's real body looked like. I would think it would like a lot like the robot body he always has. I mean, if you're building a body to replace the one you lost, wouldn't you try to make it resemble your old body.
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>>11725172
by "this" I mean the reptile bodies here >>11723570
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>>11725177
bad continuity from someone who clearly didnt understand krang was not a severed HEAD, but a BRAIN removed from a giant skull in a giant.. person. or maybe not. Maybe they're meant to be evil utroms, so they always used mechanical bodies they rode in the bellies of?
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>>11725090
not to go off topic but any other cool tall monster figs around? I see a lot of 3P Leatherheads and Splinters show up in these threads, but they're always at 1:12 scale or smaller. My super7 shelf is very open to having other crazy monsters of the right size..
and honestly, more realistic shit, the movie shelf is ready for those too. Turtles need cool guys to fight.
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>>11725956
>the line was so successful that it made them hate money so they killed it
retard logic
Or is Mattel made up retards like you?
Pic of a line that was originally going to a limited seasonal release that got so many orders that Hasbro made it into a full blown toyline.
Is Hasbro genius tier or just a normal business that likes making money off of something that's actually successful?
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>>11725967
>so they killed it
Except they didn't. See >>11724463
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Would be neat if Mattel tried to incorporate the SS and ED guest stars alongside characters with similar aesthetics
-Ripster in a wave with Armaggon (If Mattel uses non-vintage Playmates characters) with possible Piranoid
-Another shark in a wave with Ray Fillet
-Yet another shark in a wave with Merdude
-T-Bone in a wave with a specific Trieceraton IE Zorax or Zork
-If Mattel buys the rights, one of the Muscle Mutts in a wave with Scratch
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>>11725967
>hate money
Yes? Most companies do seem to hate money today for some reason. Look at playmates and Power rangers
>Dude should we release THE most popular Zord of ALL fucking time, the dragon Zord?
>I mean, it will seriously print money, should we do it?
>LMAOOOO NAH
Countless, countless, countless other examples both in the toy industry and every other industry from video games, to movies, to television.
Let's look at mattel themselves.
I see all sorts of turtles of grey skull shit STILL online and in stores and even their mattel exclusives are on discount because it's not fucking selling. But I guarantee you next year one of the FIRST lines they announce will be more motu and turtle shit.
So yeah, idk what it is with companies hating money in the past decade or so but they absolutely do.
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>>11726272
we need to do a full investigation into the foreign elements deliberately lobotomizing and ruining our businesses so they can take over
we've caught china doing this so many times. they tanked UK's economy out of spite, remember? and we've caught russia doing this kinda shit on social media, so.. I think we need to snip the oceanic internet cable.
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>>11726272
>retard thinks he knows how to run a business
The reason the most popular characters of all time aren't released right away is so that they have something to release on a LATER DATE.
If they release all the cool shit at once, the line dies in a year. Everyone already has what they want and they stop paying attention.
With the way hype works, you only need ONE popular character for the first wave. A popular franchise sells on name alone, but the other characters won't be shitty/rare ones too. Second wave can be the same shit, since demand should be high enough to carry sales. Once the line proves itself, they can add whatever they want, BUT still have enough popular characters to generate hype for each wave.
This is why they wait on THE-MOST-POPULAR ZORD-OF-ALL-TIME.
Businesses are smarter than retarded consumers like you. IF their line doesn't sell and they never get to making the Dragon Zord, then it's no loss for them. The line would have bombed later anyway, because a license needs to prove itself popular throughout its lifetime, not just one specific wave, and there's only a limited amount of characters they can draw from.
The consumer's perspective of getting everything popular as soon as possible is completely retarded if they actually want to make money.
As for HeMan shit, they're throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks and it's not surprising heman shit bombs, because heman is shit, but the license needs to be fulfilled until its very end or else they pay a penalty fee + promised royalties.
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>>11726276
just because a prototype is created doesn't mean it will to be made.
when was the last wave released, btw?
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>>11726456
Except that 4 of the 6 figures have completely sold out everywhere.
It's not like the majority of releases are being dumped at Ross or collecting dust in the BBTS warehouse despite being up to 60% off, like other dead lines that didn't sell.
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>>11726517
You're talking about a line that was successful enough to be carried by all e-tailers and retailers. Of course there's going to be extras that end up at closeout stores. Same with Legends, same with McFarlane, etc etc. Street Sharks didn't even sell enough to get more orders.
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>>11726523
>TMNT X Universal totally sold well and that's why the majority of the line is on clearance everywhere
>but Street Sharks didn't sell, and that's why they are sold out everywhere
I wouldn't be accusing others of being on drugs. All of your claims seem to be made after you've been puffing on your glass barbecue.
>>11726525
It was sold on the basis that previous NECA TMNT lines sold well, much like all those Eternals and Wakanda Forever figures that are rotting closeout stores. If it sold well, the line would be continuing and Trevor wouldn't have told Veebs that it's done for the foreseeable future.
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>>11726210
Yet Sun-Man and his diverse buddies have been making rounds in MOTU Origins for awhile despite being created as a shameless He-Man rip-off for those who thought the line needed more diversity.
Not to mention Gobots and M.A.S.K. were added to Transformers and GI Joe lore after Hasbro bought the companies that made them and they even had ROM appear in a recent Marvel Legends wave, so having characters from a toyline the company owns appearing in another similar one isn't unheard of,
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>>11726530
A line that sells well would have had a release on a regular basis, because making money is a thing and audiences have short attention spans.
A toyline shouldn't take 18 months inbetween releases, unelss they're some shitshow toy company who doesn't have money. Mattel has boatloads of money.
And just so you know, something can sell out but it's not enough. Companies like Mattel/Hasbro/LEGO want REGULAR sales, hence waves coming out every 2 months, 3 months, or 4 months. So a store can sell out, but because those stores didn't place orders fast enough, this is why Mattel killed the Street Sharks line.
And since Toy Fair came and went without an announcement for street sharks, it's unlikely you'll get them within the next six months, because Toy Fair is generally for shit that toy stores will carry from now until the end of summer. Next big toy announcement place is SDCC and that's July and if nothing is announced there, that's 24 months of a dead line.
And really, 1 year without a toy's release is a dead toyline... unless you're some niche as fuck who basically does it as a hobby.
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>>11726588
i wouldn't consider SDCC exclusives as being part of a line, because they're exclusives. and shit exists as marketing and to make money back from a mold that was already produced.
Lots of dead lines go through sdcc like that, even from Hasbro.
Also, didn't mattel get rid of molds that way too? I seem to remember some DC shit that they couldn't release in stores getting releasing at SDCC back in the day.
And like i said, if wave 3 were planned for summer, why wasn't it at Toy Fair? Biggest toy event in the US and when was the last time wave 3 was last promoted by Mattel?
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>>11726588
>Street Sharks mostly sells out everywhere
>gets put on hiatus for ToG
>MOTU movie potentially being a huge blockbuster means Mattel want to strike while the iron is hot and pools almost all resources into that
>acquisition of DC and TMNT licenses result in needing to expand employee pool and a complete restructuring of boys toys division to ensure experienced workers are spread evenly throughout product lines
It makes sense why a small niche line that was only aimed at collectors for the franchise's anniversary has been put on the backburner for a bit with everything that Mattel are taking on right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to hold off a bit longer and release waves 3 and 4 much closer to the new Turtles line launch. They'd also be smart to rerelease the main 4 brothers. I never got Slammu or Streex, and I know plenty of people who missed the first two.
>But wait, you're NECAnon
No, that's not Nec. It's his retarded older brother, Subject.
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>>11726658
In what tiny country do you live in? You think Mattel is made up of 10 people? They have thousands of people working there and none of the producers/designers who would be making the Street Sharks line would ever have to be involved with TMNT, muchless the factory that produces them.
Hasbro has a couple of factories in China AND in other countries too. Mattel is a much larger company than Hasbro.
No delay should have ever happened with Street Sharks, unless sales were that poor.
>>11726695
i meant "pay off the molds" As in, they actually produced another STreet Shark before the line was killed off, so they needed to not lose money on it, so they released it as an SDCC exclusive.
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>>11726588
okay, so i looked it up and the last release was at SDCC 2024? That was over 19 months ago. This line is as dead as GI Joe was in 2015 when Hasbro put the GI Joe line on "hiatus"
And the last REAL WAVE was before July 2024? Oof.
Oh, but they wanted to focus on TMNT, despite the license only being gotten in December 2025? 17 months after the last release and the TMNT line isn't even slated to be released until almost a year from now.
Weakass excuses and no understanding of how a business works, especially for a company as huge as Mattel. Did they fire anyone during this time, beca- YEP! 120 people!
So Street Sharks sells poorly and of course they need to lay off those people, who would otherwise be doing nothing. And they layed off 89 more people in December. Gotta wonder what else bombed for Mattel, but that's business as usual for Mattel.
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>>11727148
And yet >>11724463
>So Street Sharks sells poorly and of course they need to lay off those people
You got any proof that these people that you claim were fired are the same people that worked on Street Sharks, and not the people that fucked up distribution for Jurassic World Dominion and allowed cancelled toys to get produced, or the retard that decided to redesign the MOTU Snake Lair to look completely different to the design people voted for, or the idiot that didn't have any products ready to go when K-Pop Demon Hunters blew up, or the moron that put a link to a porn website on the back of the Wicked dolls?
There are probably half a dozen other things that have been more disastrous for Mattel than Street Sharks.
Which is why they said last year that Street Sharks is not cancelled.
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>>11723931
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>>11727171
It is cancelled. You are a damn fool if you can't accept that. Toyshiz doesn't know shit. They were blowing smoke up his ass to get rid of him. Street Sharks didn't sell enough to keep going. Target doesn't want to give it space. At all.
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>>11727171
>didn't sell poorly
>19 months since the last release
>20+ months since the last retail wave released
>didn't sell poorly
A giant company like Mattel would layoff a couple of people from the Street Sharks team because what else are they going to do with their time? IF they didn't layoff someone from a DEAD LINE out of the 200+ people that got fired in the past 20 months, it's a miracle.
>Street Sharks is not cancelled
for all intensive porpoises it's canceled, because it's been 19 months since the last release.
Maybe they'll get around to releasing something else, because maybe they want to make money off of their molds, but it's still a dead line
If you don't consider that canceled, then i guess Hasbro never canceled GI Joe in 2015, because it still kept getting convention exclusives until 2018 and then brought back 2 years later?
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>>11727152
holy shit, kinda does. or like half reubens half spacey.
>>11727176
my god, you have perfectly channeled old Playmates... also that mask in that kabuto looks kind of amazing.
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