>>11715466
Kranix is my kinda goon slop though.

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>>11715466
Skywarp and MAYBE Shockwave, not sure about getting more dinobots beside Grimlock but reissue feels nice.

>>11715466
Already ordered the glowing ball with handles, I'm also getting Kranix and Skywarp. Probably Shockwave too but I wish it was a brand new toy. As for Astrotrain it really looks fun to transform with pretty nice alt modes but that robot mode is just too ugly, feels like a garage kit from twenty years ago. Maybe if it gets a huge discount in the future.

>three threads in a row where she's desperately tried to push "slop" for toys people are excited for
Why did you come to /toy/, it's clear that you belong on /v/.

>>11715466
>onions face

>>11715518
>onions*

>>11715519
S.O.Y

>>11715466
>Unc slop

>Newest comic showed a Lio Jr colored Lio Convoy.
Very interesting.

>>11715522
It is Borderline Grunc slop at this point. Most unc slop came over a decade later.

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>>11715529
It's nice that Legends is back

>>11715529
Hellscream got depowered...

>>11715520

$0¥

>>11715534
I'll laugh if this is how we learn of a new BWII Starscream and BB.

>>11715529
Leo Junior grew up!

>>11715518
>>11715519
>>11715520
>>11715522
Fucking newfags

>>11715524
>>11715542
What would an older Lio Junior be called? Would he still be Lio Junior
>>11715534
I honestly prefer his and BB's original forms so this is a plus to me
>>11715540
It’s especially suspicious given Dirgegun and Thrustor weren’t depowered

>>11715466
Literally just Skywarp, I'll only get Shockwave if he goes on clearance. Didn't even pre-order anything in the last round of figures either, I'll get Liege if he goes on clearance (he looks weird enough, so here's hoping.

>>11715552
Unironically? He'd just be called Lio Convoy since his dad goes by Leo Prime by this point. Big had it even easier since his dad was Blue Big Convoy, so he just called himself Big Convoy later.

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>>11715568
That’s what I was thinking, especially since in JP continuity Lio Convoy becomes Great Lio Convoy at the end of Neo, I’m just curious how they’ll label the toy if they make one. Funnily enough, it’s kind of the opposite of one of Junior's old toys

Skimming new lg comic, it seems the 13 Primes in the JG1 universe are all actually from the late G1 era, replacing the Great Convoy system... except for the Fallen, who came from an alt universe and tried invading it originally.

>>11715599
Oh, and even funnier, it turns out that the Prime Predacons from the Japanese toyline are all actually late JG1 characters. Don't tell the wiki.

The Matrix went up yesterday already.

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>>11715337

I think it's been stated the Maximo's alt mode is based on the Decepticon warships in Dark of the Moon, and I can see there is a resemblance.

>>11715607
>I think it's been stated
no, that was one anon's comment that it reminded him of it.
Mark has no idea what he's doing when it comes to the fallen. He specifically mentioned the maximos "darts" from a piece of artwork where there were 3 ships, so small because Maximo is fuckhuge.
and he talked about how he "didn't realize the red part on his face wasn't a mouth"
it was a mouth.
Someone, possibly the takara guy that wouldn't know much about G2 at all, steered him in the wrong direction.

The next Legends manga is about the Speedia 500, does that give us a clue on what the next toy will be?

>>11715611
No clue if it will follow up organically, it could just be a reference since both Lio Convoy and Black Lio Convoy (eating rocks like Dark Amber) are seen in Speedia art with other Legacy toys (though, that comic was taking place during JG1's G2 period).

>>11715610
>the fallen
dang, had that legends comic on the brain
I meant maximo, hence why I switched mid way

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>>11715610
>he "didn't realize the red part on his face wasn't a mouth"
>it was a mouth.
No, Mark had it right, the red piece was clearly a chin strap, same as Jhiaxus.
You can literally the cables that strap it around his face in the art. Unless you think Liege also has cat whiskers.

>>11715599
Where are you reading this?

>>11715610
I still think the biggest fuckup was somehow misinterpreting where his horns were coming from. How is it not immediately apparent from every single image of the dude that they're part of his head?

>>11715610
>He specifically mentioned the maximos "darts" from a piece of artwork where there were 3 ships
The darts are his artifact from the covenant, Mark didn't invent. They were based them on the ships from that one image so they'd fit thematically, and Mark just assumed that's what the covenant was referencing which is probably true.

Hasbro running a little late on their next Haslab reveal. don't they usually have it going by now?

>>11715625
>immediately apparent from every single image of the dude
Anon, there was exactly ONE image of him originally in the G2 comic, this one >>11715622
Everything else that came later, like the Loki Maximo bot from IDW, is a retcon. The new toy is not a "misinterpretation", it as at worst an ALTERNATE interpretation from what you always assumed and is at least as valid as anything from IDW that came out *decades* later.

>>11715629
I dread the reveal at this point.

>>11715632
I think Hasbro does as well.

>>11715600
How does that even work?! Say what you will about American fans, Japanese fans are obsessed with trying to tie everything back to G1
>>11715629
They’re probably debating whether to do a HasLab or a MtO instead, like with the Arctic HISS

>>11715631
>Anon, there was exactly ONE image of him originally in the G2 comic, this one
And you can't tell that those horns are part of his head? Because they very clearly are, even in that crop.

>>11715640
>And you can't tell that those horns are part of his head?
That's one, perfectly valid interpretation, sure.
So is the new toy we're getting though.

>>11715639
Go Prime splintered the Prime timeline to prevent some awful shit from happening(guess as a way to explain the inconsistencies between the shows, toy bios, etc... ). When Leo Prime when there (the beast hunters toyline portion of it) he's told to leave since his presence could make things worse, cue the Predacons using his alt universe traveling portal to get there.

>>11715639

How much was that MTO toy, anyway? I assume they jacked up the price big time?

>>11715639
They can do both after a few months, that Artic Hiss got announce almost right after that Artic vehicle Haslab ended.

>>11715644
I guess that makes enough sense, just seems a bit complicated, especially since the Go Predacons were said to be made by Shockwave. Is it G1 Shockwave now?
>>11715645
It was $200 compared to the original HasLab price of $300, with the trade-off of no electronics or extra figures

>>11715657

So a made to order Unicron would be...400. Bleh, still too much.

>>11715659
What would Unicron even omit to get his price down? He was $575 when he was new and doesn't even have electronics to gut.

>>11715657
Pretty sure anon is just fucking with us, the page suggests the Predacons saw the portal and made a mad dash towards it, with a few getting through and shown captured on the next page.

>>11715653
I think the Artic HISS was only that way because they already had the mold for it, so it wasn’t as difficult as doing a wholly original mold like the MtO Sentinel
>>11715661
I think a made to order Star Saber would be their best bet if they were to redo an old HasLab. They could do a non-chromed, basic version for $120ish and I think people would get it. They’d probably complain about the price, but they do that anyways

I want to get that new Windcharger, but the new price tag and his lack of heels make it very difficult.

>>11715671
Nah, they'd probably do a repaint of Star Saber, likely his black repaint from Robot Masters. I don't expect it to be any cheaper or fix any of the problems the original had.

Order placed. Astrotrain, Kranix, Skywarp, Shockwave, and Cobra-lalalalalalalalalalalala Royal Guard.

>>11715642
The damage control is real.

>>11715642
That interpretation is just going out of the way to see things in the most contrived way possible, if you believe there's a significant amount of people that interpreted that last G2 panel as the horns being part of an awkward protusion behind Liege's head you're out of your mind. It's pretty clear what the intention was.
And at the end of the day the problem is that the toy design suffers from that absurd take. There's no way in hell it wouldn't have looked way cooler with the horns coming out if his head.

>>11715676
Assuming they use the same mold, that wouldn’t be that bad of a deal in my opinion. I don’t remember Victory Saber having that many major QC issues, and the ones it had were (somewhat) fixed with the reissues sent out, meaning they’d be fixed on the mold anyways

>>11715625
Agree, I would prefer it they were part of his head, thats how I always saw it. But oh well, I'm still glad this exist. They won't make another one for 50 years now.

>>11715682
>>11715683
>this isn't objectively wrong but it's not how I always imagined it
>THAT MEANS ITS BAD
Every time with you fags lol

>>11715678
Only bothered with Kranix and Shockwave, and the latter only because the only version of him that I owned up to this point was his black repaint from Siege.

>>11715676
Oh, and to state my reasoning:

-The way the molds are set up would require new molds to separate several parts for costs, like the sword from the stand.
-A number of Victory Leo parts share molds with Star Saber.

The best I can see, they'll make a smaller mold that omits the stand, and just release it as a black repaint.

Even Yellow Spendid convoy brought up retooling, likely because they'll have to make at least 2 molds for the white parts, so they might as well change a few things to make her look a bit more feminine.

The only toy I see just being a cheaper release is Deathsaurus, since you could omit his throne, and extra weapons (so he'd only keep his sword and cannon).

>>11715690
Ok Mark.

>>11715700
>what, you like how this looks?
>THAT MEANS YOU DESIGNED IT
There's no point in arguing with you retards, you literally think like children.

>>11715685
His biggest fuck up where the knees on Star Saber. The ratchet tooth used stronger plastic than the grooves on the legs, so the tooth just deformed the grooves after a few poses and makes the Victory Saber configuration more unstable.

It doesn't really affect Star Saber since he's not that big and tightening his knee is pretty easy, but this doesn't work for thr combination.

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>>11715690
No, it's bad because it looks like shit.

>>11715709
Same. Wild how good that design looks to me considering it's basically Beast Machines Megs with a G1 body.

>>11715529
What a coincidence that the three Cyber Beasts that weren’t depowered just so happen to be the three with possible modern remolds (Kingdom Waspinator, Dinobot and TR/AotP Trypticon)

>>11715683
I myself would have made them horns too, but I kind of see what the toy designers were going for, interpreting them as a sort of spiked collar.
Based on the position of his eyes, Liege's face is so recessed into his head in that one comic panel that he would have been a huge pinhead if it were translated directly to 3D.

>>11715714
In your opinion. I think it looks cool.
But these threads are always full of these hyperbolic, attention-whoring
>this is bad because it's bad
caliber posts.

>>11715717
I'm not sure Takara would gamble and make new toys for two or them, and their crowdfunded Titan barely made it to production.

>>11715703
Bro, you are literally the ONLY person who has ever advocated for the horns not being on his head. Every single other person who read that comic saw the same thing - except for you and Mark, apparently.

>>11715731
Is that why Liege is sold out for pre-orders on both BBTS and Pulse? Because I was the only one besides Mark who likes it?

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Trains n stuff

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>>11715622
>clearly a chin strap
There's no "clearly" about it. A chin strap is certainly one interpretation, but frankly, cat whiskers is 100% just as legitimate of an interpretation. There is absolutely nothing in that picture to definitively say it's a chin strap. If you're basing this off the idea that whiskers would be dumb, then people who disagree with you could base their interpretation off the idea that the thing that looks just like a mouth turning out to not be a mouth is also dumb.

If you really want to know what that drawing was intended to portray, there's one surefire way to do that: ask Geoff Senior, the guy who drew it. He also drew Liege Maximo in Simon Furman's unofficial Alignment story which Hasbro apparently considered authoritative enough to use as a reference when designing the liegian darts for the new toy. But considering the haphazard way Hasbro has been making their creative decisions lately, I can't help but doubt they consulted him.

>>11715743
I don't know about the mouth guard but for what it's worth, the horns clearly look to me like they're behind the head and not part of it in this picture.

>>11715738
No. He sold out because despite how utterly fucked up he is, he's the only toy of the character in existence, and people want to complete their collections. There's no real reason to make another toy of the dude in the future, so this is likely it for him - people are just settling.

>>11715751
>how utterly fucked up he is
Except he actually looks like a Transformer and not some weird green demon thing. That would have been a lot more "fucked up".

>>11715748
That picture was made years later, by a different artist. You can't use that as a reliable reference when it's not the source material.

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>>11715751
They can always do IDW Loki knock off in the future.

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>>11715743
>There's no "clearly" about it.
Anon, in that very same image you posted, you can clearly see the straps going into the side of his face and a hint of the outline of his chin piece. The supposed "teeth" in his "mouth" aren't even connected to anything.
What the fuck would that be if not a red chinstrap like Jhiaxus'?

>>11715753
That's one interpretation.

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The unofficial cover art for Alignment is where you can make the best argument that the horns sat behind Liege's head. He's got a big spiky head and the horns seem to be a crown of sorts.

>>11715779
Looks to me like they're growing out of the back of his head and curling over the front. It does indeed look like he's wearing some kind of crown, though - the spike in the middle of his head and the two smaller ones under his horns are a different color from the rest of him.

Either way the spikes on his head in every piece of art are very clearly part of a headband and not a shitty little skullcap. Which would also imply something obviously would above that band, you know something like big ol' demon horns.

>>11715793
Never mind that every OTHER design of Liege has also made the character have huge head horns. It's only this toy that went in its own weird direction.

>>11715622
>he red piece was clearly a chin strap
You're retarded, that's his mouth.

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>AARON ARCHER NO DON'T DO IT--

>>11715786
>Looks to me like they're growing out of the back of his head and curling over the front
That's how I interpreted it all this time.

>>11715809
>Never mind that every OTHER design of Liege
Again, what is with this every "other" stuff? IDW and anything that came later DOES NOT COUNT, it's G2 comic here or nothing for the purposes of the argument here. IDW is just as much an alternate interpretation of the original as this new toy is, if not much more so.

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>>11715779
I always thought the red part with the wires was a mouth in the shape of a respirator and going by that pic it's clear there's no way in hell it can be the chin, there's no space for a nose and mouth there.

Between that and the horns it just feels like they tried to do the opposite of how people always interpreted that design just to mess with them.

Got MPG Nucleon Quest Super Convoy. I paid about 180 for it. Felt a bit pricey, but it is a pretty solid figure.

Pros:
-An almost satin black paint covers a good chunk of the figure. Looks phenomenal in hand.
-Everything tabs in pretty well
-Several weapons with tabs and peg compatibility
-Super Convoy is way more articulated than I expected. He even has ankles hidden there, with two clicks even!
-core robot is so much fun to mess around with, it's hands are compatible with a smaller set of guns and they're 5mm compatible.

Cons:
-Apparently, retail for this guy is $270, which is too much for what you get.
-Transforming it can be a bit nerve wrecking since you have to be careful to avoid damaging the paint, worst bit is inserting Convoy into the Super Convoy chest, the clearance is just right, so the paint will eventually start rubbing off at the sides.
-Chrome looks nice, but always goes bad, and fast. Not to mention you have to avoid touching it.
-HiQ is a letdown. The minifig version has a much nicer paint job, the connection to Super Convoy is terrible (the grill section is spring loaded and you have to insert him there, but he's held there by two small tabs) to the point he could fly across the room if you're not careful. To top it off, you have to put pressure on the chrome grill for the transformation.
-The hips on both convoys are comically strong, I'm scared they'll break every timr I move them.

I still think it's worth getting, but some of the issues could easily be avoided:

-The grill could be painted metallic grey.
-The grill section could flip around to reveal a section that secures HiQ in place via a slot for the head and the side tabs.
-Slightly more clearance for the Super Convoy mode
-Less stupidly strong hip ratchets.

>>11715427
>55 years and counting
cute
>>11715521
the fuck? mobile devices cost -hundreds- of dollars.
>friends
that's not okay to have, it means you fit in.

>>11715466
goofy facial expressions designed to attract the facial recognition software of 2-generations-back algorithms are the 'mouth stretching out like an anteater in a hentai blowjob' of web video

>>11715529
Dig it. Love me a realcolored lion.

>>11715830
>it just feels like they tried to do the opposite of how people always interpreted that design just to mess with them.
Probably, but this is also a good thing. Many TF fans are huge fags (as these threads routinely prove) so anything that messes with them is extremely based imo.

>>11715834
I should also point out that recent comments by Hasbro designers brought up that we might get a Super Ginrai in the recent future (the masterforce anniversary). How they'll go about it is a mystery.

>>11715844
I don’t see why he could be anything other than a Commander class without it feeling strange

>Missed out on Skywarp and Shockwave
Damn... Also wish I didn't buy the previous Wheeljack and Sunstreaker since they both have issues and these new ones look a bit more detailed.

>>11715622
Why would they color a chinstrap red?

>>11715842
I can't imagine being this much if a spiteful fatass.

>>11715847
I say this without irony, they could also make him a titan and justify it with budget (Super Ginrai has longer proportions and the cab doesn't form most of the torso, regular Ginrai mighr end up too small with and commander budget is a joke these days).That or a haslab with Godbomber.

I was going to preorder Shockwave, but I noticed it has this awful tab on his chest now. Is that for the Bruticus cannon thing?

>>11715867
Not the slot on his abdomen, the tab right below his boob. I literally have Siege Shockwave on my desk and he doesn't have that tab.

>>11715723
Attention whoring is exactly what you're doing.

>>11715862
Yes it is. It goes into Bruticus' shoulder.

>>11715850
To match Jhiaxus.

>13 show up in the legends comics
>Mostly guys who were appointed that position and only came to be after BW Neo.
>They make it seem like most of them are corrupt.
Seeing them get their shit wrecked was pretty funny.

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Been playing Fumes lately (absolutely kino) and the Junkion Anon last thread got me messing with my Scraphook more
Test fit some various Weapons I got and really liking some of these combos
And the "Exhaust/Luggage" from Crashbar
The Hydraulic parts from Junkmaster is pretty good too

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https://news.tfw2005.com/2026/02/17/transformers-toy-fair-reveals-astrotrain-sunstreaker-shockwave-more-pos-live-557692
FYI there’s like 70-80 new stock photos on various shopping platforms.
I’m just straight up not posting all that.
Entertainment earth has the most complete gallery. And ThreeAndUp has the highest resolution.

Still waiting for someone to post the 360 turnaround renders.

>>11715622
It’s a breather like Darth Vader anon

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>>11715917
Also for an official photo of the back of Leige’s box.

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>>11715902
If the 13 are just random fags elected to government, then what was the deal with Blue Bolts using their sigils to revive Lio Convoy?

>>11715922
Why would they be so cruel, and make his heels from clear plastic?

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>>11715917
This shit is so ass.

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>>11715917
Interesting, you can have the wing chest for Astrotrain.

>>11715931
Yup, my Siege Astrotrain is not going anywhere.

>>11715931
His chest is huge but the rest of him is lanky as hell.

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>>11715944
Could finally give us new Octane and Broadside. But nooooo.

Also after this Astrotrain, I'm affraid for new Octane and Broadside.

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>>11715932
Love the gigantic hole it leaves on the body.

>>11715944
Siege was that bad people still consider this a step up.

Can someone explain to me the lore behind Liege Maximo and why people are excited for him getting a toy?

>>11715975
Said no one ever.

>>11715954
"Inferno, Stop lubricating the man"

>>11715976
Liege Maximo started out as a vague term Jhiaxus mentioned that was implied to be a base where the G2 Decepticons operated out of with Jhiaxus as their supreme leader. Then the final issue of Gen2 and the very last Marvel TF comic came out and ended with the cliffhanger reveal that LM was an actual person who was a giant demonic transformer the size of Metroplex. Who also claimed to be related to Megatron, who at the end of the Marvel series, had finally agreed to a truce between the Autobots and Decepticons.

Since then he alternates between being the Loki of the 13 Primes, Space Satan (until the Fallen took that role from him) and the secret father and creator of the Decepticon movement with Megatron as his unwitting or willing pupil

>>11715975
Siege literally has the objectively better robot mode.

>>11715951
I think I'm finally over asking for better versions of bad figures. I just don't think they're talented enough to deliver.

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>>11715982
>>11715996
Siege Astrotrain was always a great toy with amazing vehicle modes

Any good KOs of legacy Armada Optimus or the legacy stunticons? Or really, any KOs at all?

>>11715757
My head canon was that the remaining primes attacked Liege after his deception in retaliation and disfigured him like darth vader,

Is there a line of little poseable guys that would fit in the new Thundercracker's cockpit? I remember having one when I was really young but I cannot think of the name. It just had really simple arm and leg joints, and maybe little magnets in the feet?

>>11715998
I don't get the meme here. The actual toy has a good robot mode, an incomplete shuttle mode, and a WTF train mode. The budget wasted on the coal car could've easily fixed the shuttle's problems. But a smarter designer was needed to fix the train.

>>11716004
diaclone pilots.

They might be able to fit in 86 thundercracker, pretty sure they can. I'm kinda pissed hasbro didn't make it titan master sized though.

>>11715944
gas g1ers

My only issue I have with Siege Astrotrain is that it's tiny and I can't pose it with TR Bliztwing and Octane, with which I'm pretty happy with.

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>>11715976
For decades this page was the only fiction he had. It's a pretty fucking impactful page in that context.

>>11716012
Thanks, I can probably snag some bootleg chinese knockoffs on aliexpress. Did we get diaclone in the US/Canada? I don't remember seeing it but this was when I was like, still in kindergarten.

>>11715998
>>11716006
The meme is revisionism. I don't agree with the 'it was always a great toy' line since it was always a great toy, but yeah.. the vehicle modes were a bit rough and people on twitter talking about how the vehicle modes on the new one are rough and siege was fine or whatever

personally, I think that while the robot mode does look like complete dogshit; the vehicle modes are movie accurate, AND Astrotrain's two big scenes in the movie (the escape and the shuttle fight) were both vehicle-mode focused scenes.

I'm not going to pick astrotrain up for full price, but he's definitely on the clearance list. I love the fact the train connected wheel thingies work, it's cool. Or if they make a g1 toy colors redeco.. which they do seem to be going for.

>>11715773
Again with this "clearly" stuff? Just because you interpret it one way doesn't mean that's what it's "clearly" supposed to be. Just look at how what you call "straps" just taper off to a point and vanish rather than wrapping around the head. If anything, a strong argument could be made that this makes them look MORE like whiskers and LESS like a mouthguard. You yourself even admitted they don't even connect to anything.

I'm not saying the chin strap interpretation is impossible, nor am I saying that seeing these features as whiskers or some other thing (heck, they might just be more tubes or tentacles running along the side of his face like the ones dangling from his body) is necessarily correct either. What I am saying is that acting like your interpretation is "clearly" the only possible correct one is nonsense.

>>11716019
Diaclone's pilots were probably in some import toyline. Maybe micronauts? idk.

why do you faggots write so much lmao

>>11715923
No idea, maybe they have another meaning here? The Planet Beast guys had their wise men use Prime Master bodies so maybe they represent powerful beings in the Cosmos.

Sort of related, the comic had Grimwing and Laserback using the portal Leo Prime used to invade the G1 world. They seem to be the only Predacons that made it through before Leo came back and afe both killed. What makes this pretty funny, is that their original pack in fiction had them be be friends who didn't want to be savages and wreck shit, and even seemed to consider being allies to the Autobots so they could defeat the other Predacons. Since these guys don't exist in the Japanese Go! Line, you can guess why they where killed off.

>>11716004
Try star wars the rebel pilots look regular enough to work

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I think the biggest issue is the lack of color. Maybe it will be better in white if we ever get a repaint.

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>>11716016
>EVIL IS INFINITE!

>>11716030
the biggest issue to me is a chest sitting higher than the shoulders

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>>11716024

>>11716030
unpaintable plastic. Please understand. No we're not going to give you stickers or maybe even redesign the chest so it can be painted. No we will not add paintable plastic inserts. Please understand.

Oh and btw we are going to fix this in a premium/future release. Fuck you. Pay another 60 piggy.

I can't believe this was made by the same person that did bw cheetor and thunderclash

>>11715985
He's called Inferno because it burns when he lubricates.

>Of all characters, Dai Atlas, Blast Off, Cosmos, all the Stunticons and an Guardian Robot (of all things) are still alive by the very end of the Jg1 universe.

Doesn't seem that special to talk about characters like Primal or Optimus like heroes who died long ago and barely know much about them when guys who served even before that are just... around.

>>11716056
Also, of all things, referencing the POTP show was not something I saw coming.

>>11716019
We got some as kronoform. Most notably the multiforce.

>>11716015
Siege Astrotrain is tiny? I thought he was Voyager sized.

>>11715944
all three modes look like ass.

>>11715917
all those fucking gaps

>>11716163
how. how'd'n't I notice that before?

>>11715917
should at least come with a tiny Starscream tossing out a tiny Megatron

>>11715944
I just don't get what happened. The original Astrotrain was so solid. It was just a tube with panels. Why is this one so broken up in all his modes?

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>>11716156
Maybe TR Astrotrain is a lanklet but this is how it scales against it.

>>11715944
I'm honestly shocked. The Siege one was pretty good, only the back of the shuttle was bad. Here, only the train looks passable, and the shuttle back somehow looks even worse, while the robot looks terrible. Seriously, who approved this? It clearly needed another pass, so I'm wondering if this is another ER Starscream situation.

>>11716004
Diaclone pilots are too small to fit normally. Most smaller figure lines would essentially fit standing up, the only mini pilots that almost work are the rmz zoid pilots, but they're a tad too small and you'd need to glue them in place.

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Hey still trying to sell figures before i kick the bucket ( i have chronic kidney disease, 6 months left to live lol), trying to get some stuff sold here quickly this time for an event sunday so im flexible on prices, please only email if interested!
will take paypal and cashapp and venmo

** Pics:** https://imgbox.com/g/t7F6aDCJSX
C=Complete so i dont hit any character limits
86 Bumblebee (Missing Gun)- 17$

AOTP Megatronus (c, can ship with og box flattened) - 55$

AOTP Amaglonus prime (have og box) C-45$

AOTP Prima Prime C- 35$

AOTP Quintus Prime c- 20$

AOTP Micronus Prime C- 20$

AOTP Alchemist Prime C- 30$

AOTP Waspinator C- 18$

TFO Studio Series Bumblebee C- 15$

TFO Studio Series Megatron/d16 C- 25$

Core class g2 megatron- 8$

Core Class Galvatron Legacy Loose- 8$

Core Class Galvatron Legacy Boxed damaged-12$

SS 86 Damaged Iron Hide- 20$

AOTP devestation Side swipe C- 20$

Mainlife TFONE Quintession- 8$

Studio Series 86 Arcee C- 15$

Transformers Studio Series gamer iron hide c- 25$

Transformers Studio Series gamer megatron c-20$

40Th Anniversary Optimus Prime CIB-65$

Legacy United Vector Prime C- 30$

AOTP G2 Grimlock (No Wheelie)-35$

WFC Siege(?) WheelJack C- 25$

Siege 35th Anniversary Optimus Prime (not sure if complete)-40$

SS 86 Sweeps C- 40$

SS 86 Blurr C- 30$

G1 Pullback Goldbug C- 35$

G1 Pullback Fullload (not sure his name) C- 18$

Hot Wheels Collab Bone Shaker C- 28$
G1 2002 Hot Rod C- 25$

Dramatic Capture Optimus Prime and Jazz C- 60$
45 for just optimus 25 for jazz

AOTP Barricade Deluxe Bayverse C- 25$

Titans Return Seaspray deluxe C- 20$

Weird earthspark human deluxe- 8$

Earthspark deluxe Shockwave C- 10$

AOTP Slingshot C- 20$

>>11716195
p2
ALL THE ONES BELOW ARE MISSING PIECES/PARTS/DAMAGED, WILLING TO OFFER A BUNDLE DEAL ON THESE TO GET THEM OUT

AOTP Solus (Missing a leg )- 15$

G1 Skylinx (missing roller, and a plate on the back)-15$

G2 Dinosaur (forgot his name, was it slag? sludge?) has 3d printed replacement horn, no weapons- 20$

G1 Warpath- 13$

G2 Optimus Prime, No accessories limbs very loose- 10$

Authentics Skyfire, Missing pieces-10$

Nascar 88 DOTM Figure Missing pieces- 10$

SS86 brawn (missing original gun)- 18$

G1 insecticons (Very loose feeling and floppy, missing pieces) All 3- 15$ (Not separating)

G1 Bonecrusher x2 Missing Weapons/stickers- 15$

ROTB Gator thing (missing his face bayverse optimus stole it) - 3$ (only shipping with 20$ or more purchase)

Mainline TFO Optimus Deluxe (Chest piece doesnt wanna peg in, missing weapon)- 8$

incomplete Blokees Wheeljack- 2$

Legacy United g1 universe Optimus Prime(missing accessories -15$

AOTP Devastation optimus prime (missing one smoke stack)- 12$

WFC (not sure what one) Megatron (has accessories just yellowed kinda bad)- 18$

Animated Optimus Prime that lights up (not sure what it came with)- 15$

G1 Galvatron (missing all accessories, electronics untested)- 15$

G1 Optimus Prime (damaged, no accessories/hands)- 12$

Mystery Shock wave (idk what hes from, missing a hand)- 12$

Titan Returns Preceptor (missing accessories)- 14$

86 Bumblebee (not sure if gun is one it came with)- 15$

86 Slag/Slash (Missing a transformation part for dino mode, weapon)-20$

G1 Inferno (Basically missing everything, missing an arm- 5$ (Will only sell if buying atleast 20$)

OTHER: Manual Lot (can add onto complete figures, otherwise whole lot 30$) CIB Walmart 40th Bombshell Ramhorn (Box damaged)- 25$

Walmart 40th Bombshell Ramhorn No box figures still in plastic- 20$

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>>11715927
Because God, and Hasbro, but mostly God, hates you specifically.

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>>11716203
Also Hasbro knows what you did that summer.
Yes, that thing. You know damn well what I’m referring to. You should be ashamed.

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>>11716211
Unrelatedly, anyone notice his ship-mode looks like a sort of fucked-up Yoda from the back?

>>11716185
huh? never realized Seige was so short. do you have a pic of him next to Blitzwing?

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>>11716215
Well, NOW I do

>>11716221
After potp, all figures got smaller, it was pretty much the major complaint at the time, but people put up with it since it gave us much better figure... until ER fucked things up.

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>>11716215
I got these in gif form for Nexus, Swerve, Ratchet, Powerglide, Smokescreen, from the previous release video, and also for the new SS Hot Rod, the person-scale Matrix, And whichever Optimus this is, if anyone wants to see one of those.

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>>11716227
Is this a repaint of the recent deluxe? There’s so many god-damned G1 Optimuses I genuinely can’t keep track.

>>11716203
>>11716211
>>11716215
>>11716227
>>11716229
There is no point in posting such tiny, shitty gifs, you imbecile.

>>11716227
got excited thinking this was a tooner shaded ss86, pass

>>11716230
Nihilist much?

>>11716175
Because it was a tube with panels and no joints.

>>11716056
The Guardian Robot I can buy because they’ve been on Cybertron arguably longer than even Alpha Trion, so it doesn’t surprise me that if they could survive to the modern day, they’d easily be able to survive the thousands of years until JPBW

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>>11716233
adding joints to the limbs fucks up things that badly?

>>11716195
>>11716196
Anon there's a BST thread
But also damn if real that sucks man
I'm eyeing 2 but don't see any info on the Hot Rod

>>11716215
Why did you make me see this???

>>11716244
Its the 2001 commemorative series hot rod, where is the BST thread?

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DNA Kit 70 was part of my BBTS pile
It's nice gap fillers, new forearms and a new Hinge for Bonecrusher
However the pin for Bonecrushed absolutely refuses to budge even with extensive softening and heating
I started to get concerned that I was going to hurt it and yet STILL wouldn't budge so I guess I don't get to use that
But also
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>11716250
Nvm got it

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>>11716252
you need one of these tools

>>11716258
Yea it came with a little tool KINDA like it but not as nice as that
It just won't move so I think i'll try again later when i'm better set

>>11716056
BTW, all these characters are leaving Cybertron to find energy sources that can help the universe from ending. Dai Atlas being by himself implies his buddies might be gone by this point. Now, the Stunticons took the Nemesis into a black hole, apparently to see if they find something in an alt universe. No clue if that is a set up for the G2 repaints.

>>11716195
RIP anon :(

I just got 86 Thundercracker and for some reason, they seem to have made the null ray pegs smaller than normal. They fit fine on 86 Thundercracker, but I can't plug them into any other figures so far.

>>11716252
>However the pin for Bonecrushed absolutely refuses to budge even with extensive softening and heating
Are you pushing it out from the right direction?

>>11716315
I also just got TC and I love him, I think I'm in for the other two. Unless Starscream is some dumb exclusive that won't be available in my country. Other than that, and I'm usually super lenient with Transformers, but I'm kinda appalled at how bad Astrotrain turned out. Like, at some point one of the designers should have stopped and said "nope, we can't release this"

>>11716321
Yeah, I'm just getting Skywarp from the recent reveals. Statscream is target Exclusive and I'm in Puerto Rico, so I'm boned. Even if they ship it here, the piranah's will gobble up the preorders before I wake up.

>>11716221
It's not my picture, I haven't gotten Siege Astrotrain yet.
I was actually debating on whether to get Kingdom T-Wrecks or not. The mold seems solid and I wasn't planning on getting the Megatron.

>>11716346
He's completely covered in rubbery skin. While I haven't seen any major issues on it, the Megatron release had several qc issues, some pretty serious.

>>11716328
I fucking hate living in a country that doesn't have Target because of this shit. Exclusivity deals should not apply outside of the sales country, let Walmart have this shit in Canada.

>>11716319
Yea tried both sides while it was heated and softer

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So, what's the over/under on an upgrade, probably from DNA, for Astrotrain? I'd worry that bulkier arms and a better chest/wing assembly would fuck up the transformation, but I've seen some clever improvisations from the 3Ps.

>>11716315
>>11716321

I picked up Thundercracker at Wal-Mart and really hope they put out Skywarp!!!FACT!!!

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>>11716378

Those scrawny thighs and hole in his stomach look terrible, anywho, any chance we'll FINALLY get a cartoon accurate Unicron in robot mode on par with the Auldey figures of other characters?

Blokees put out a version of him in planet mode and he's beautiful, now all I want is a robot equivalent!

I accidentally bought the Studio Cell version when I was drunk and couldn't get a refund and although the Haslab one is somewhat more accurate, it's way too big and expensive.

!!!FACT!!!

>>11716193
Boy that's kind of a range. Diaclone guys are what, 1:60? RMZ is 1:100, and so far I wanna say a lot of them are like, bisected. you don't even get the entire guy?
Standard zoids guys are 1:72, that sure looks like the right size for the few transformers I've seen with cockpits
I think you meant too large, btw.

>>11716378
A 3P should just go full fansproject and give him an extra coal car that splits apart into a bunch of pieces to fix the proportions and chest

>>11716195
Chronic kidney disease is a bitch, my daughter is likely staring that in the face someday. I'd nab some of those off of you, but you don't have ones I want. Good luck man. I know I hope my shit will go to someone appreciative when I kip off.

>someone brings up an old comment Inafune made about a Megaman game
>it's a mistranslation that says the exact opposite of what he meant
>entrenched itself and refuses to die and people still circulate it as gospel
>fuck, where did this even come from
>find the source in archive.org
>It was M Sipher
SON OF A BITCH

>>11716428
Even though it isn't about Transformers, now I'm curious, what was the claim about Megaman?

>>11716428
Of course. What was the quote and the mistranslation?

>>11715923
Oh, cool - I didn't know there was a Jawbreaker redeco out there.

>>11716433
>>11716435
On the addition of the character Alia to the series, Inafune remarked he felt he didn't see much of a reason to add a girl character because it was a kid's game series. He then goes on to say
>でも、現実問題、女性の方が冷静に判断が出来るかな?と思い、ナビゲータは女性という結果に落ち着いたのですが。
M Sipher's attempt at translating this:
>However, I felt the real problem was, could a female make cool decisions? So I settled on the result of a female navigator.
The correct translation however:
>But really, aren't women more capable of making calm decisions? So I decided the navigator would be a woman.

>>11716442
http://web.archive.org/web/20010405045728/bbs.capcom.com/messages/355/16284.html
And the original post M Sipher posted this up at.

>>11716428
it's like that in Zelda too. the worst is when they come back later and 'confirm' that's what they meant
>>11716442
in fairness, nihongo is a confusing as fuck language to translate. The subject in a sentence is fucking optional.

>>11716016
Looking at this image in full, I can see three things: One, Maximo's head is turned slightly to the left side of the page and down, looking directly at Rook below. Two, the horns appear to be turned with him at roughly the same angle, implying they are indeed supposed to be part of his head. Three, the red thing - and the tubes coming off of it - is NOT turned with the head and horns and is more or less situated directly in front, implying it's not a mouth, respirator, OR chin strap; it appears to be some sort of collar and is attached to his chest, and is facing the same direction as his pectorals.

>>11716448
Not to mention that several kanji can mean different things based on how they are pronounced, meaning it’s really difficult to determine a sentence by writing alone

>>11716442
Thanks for the explanation! I suppose it's possible it was an honest mistake, but I also feel like some people on the internet crave the chance to show off how good and righteous they are, and the only way they know how to do it is by tearing down someone else to create a contrast between themselves and the "bad" people.

>>11716449
Interesting interpretation, but I dunno about all of that. The red thing on the front (mouth, chin, mask, or whatever) is slightly to the left (Liege Maximo's right) instead of centered above his collarbone and below the eyes, so if his head is indeed tuned to our left, then the red thing is turning with it.

Or maybe it's just imperfections in the art and is meant to be looking straight forward? Who knows?

>>11716454
It's sad. In my day, people tore others down to build themselves up, not because they genuinely thought others deserved it.
>>11716459
good eye, you put it better than I could have.

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>>11716229
Yeah, it's from that production three-pack they're doing. One of the weirdest ideas they've ever had, if you ask me

>>11716460
>people tore others down to build themselves up, not because they genuinely thought others deserved it
Aren’t both of those bad though? You shouldn’t have to tear someone down just to build yourself up and you shouldn’t do it out of malcontent either

>>11716390
I hope Blokees will also do Cybertron at some point.

>>11716463
I just don't understand the point of this. Who does this appeal to, exactly? This seems more like self-fellation on the designers' behalf - nobody cares about the design process enough to want to buy and display three of the same figure in various stages of completion. Just sell the completed figure (for a normal price) and be done with it.

>>11716464
I was joking, anon. One of those jokes where you tell the truth and then everyone laughs at how sad it is. because back then, we hoped things would change completely, and they did. But it turns out you can change completely and still be shit.

>>11716474
It ain't Hasbro without adding a bunch of bullshit to the figure (or in some cases, accessories for that figure) you actually want. Yes, I hate it too

>>11716463
This pack would have been infinitely better, might even have been buyable if they had gone wild with the prototype color version. Like give him bright green and burgundy or black and red or something wacky, not just the normal version underpainted.

>>11716459
Whatever the case of the "mouth piece", I think we can all agree that if the horns are turned to the same angle as the head in that image like they appear to be, then they MUST be attached to it and not coming from his back, otherwise they'd be fixed in place and still pointing forward while his head turned independently from them.

>>11716493
Yeah, like how the test shot SS Swoop was purple with certain bits white. It looked so fucking cool.

>>11716500
I'll trust you guys on the turned angle of the horns and face since I'm having a hard time seeing it, but either way, the contour at the top of his forehead where it goes into shadow matches the exact same contour of the horns, which would seem to suggest the horns are indeed on the top of his head and are what's causing the shadow just above his forehead.

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>>11716510
>I'll trust you guys on the turned angle of the horns and face since I'm having a hard time seeing it,
NTA, but here's a quick and shitty photoshop of what they're talking about. Liege Maximo has a convenient straight groove up the middle of his pectorals that can be used to indicate where his torso is facing, and since it's pointed at the viewer here, it can be used to project a line of symmetry (pink). Looking at both sides of the line, you'd expect his eyes and horns to be equidistant from the pink line if he were looking straight forward, but you can clearly see that's not the case here (and, as you can see from the blue lines, it's because he's focusing on Rook in the bottom of the shot, not the viewer). You'll also notice the spike in the center of his head is also being seen from a slight angle rather than head-on, and as you pointed out, the shadows on his forehead indicate that he's not sitting perfectly still under the light source.
Just one glance at those horns makes it immediately apparent that they're not facing straight forward, either - even when accounting for slight imperfections in the artist's drawing style, it's immediately obvious that there's some forced perspective going on, with the closer horn on the right hanging slightly lower while the horn on the left looks higher because his head is turned away and angled (again, towards Rook). The weird red respirator thing is off-center, too (by a LOT), but it also doesn't completely line up with the way the head is angles, so I'm not entirely sure about what to make of that.

>>11716524
yeah, you can see slightly more of the inside edge of his right horn than his left, so his head is turned very slightly.. But like you pointed out, the horns are also two very different thicknesses. This was kind of improvised and I can tell because I do the same fucking thing constantly, with this kind of detailed art.

>>11716463
Literally one of the worst Studio Series releases and they make a meme 3 pack that nobody buys lmao

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Man Kranix really hits the spot for me. I love the weird and unique robot design, with its big head / long neck and combination of curvy / blocky shapes. Almost no hollowness aside from the waffle thighs which honestly aren’t egregious. And the alt mode captures that specific retro-future vibe that I love in G1 Cybertronian vehicles, although admittedly the back end just looks like a pile of legs.

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>>11716538
Flying south for the winter

I’m repeating myself, but it was obvious to me that this figure would be a home run. Nobody was expecting / asking for it, so it must have been someone at HasTak’s passion project.

>>11716538
>>11716540
He looks fantastic. I'm petty excited for him too, even if it means I'll finally have to buy a pair of Gnaws to restrain him for purposes of mock justice.

>>11716538
>>11716540
He looks too weird for me, but I might spring if he goes on sale.

>>11716538
>>11716540
Alt. mode is kinda iffy so no preorder, but I'll probably buy him if I find him in person.

>>11716540
I just don’t get why they’re half assing engineering so much now
And no, it’s not “tooner” problems, the Chinese are doing it better at smaller scale

>>11716570
>I just don’t get why they’re half assing engineering so much now
Minimum effort in exchange for maximum returns. They've learned that they can do the bare minimum, charge whatever insane price they want, and put it on a shelf, and idiots will still buy it up even if they complain about it. They pay for less engineering, use cheaper materials, and still make massive profits off of it. It's the same reason why they keep regurgitating the same G1 characters over and over instead of creating entire casts of new characters like they used to once upon a time - new ideas require money and effort, but they have no motivation for that because they know they're guaranteed sales by catering to their lobotomized drones who have been conditioned to buy up every single version of Optimus Prime and Bumblebee they shit out instead for far less.

>>11716589
>keep regurgitating the same G1 characters over and over instead of creating entire casts of new characters like they used to once upon a time
This is pointless though, as I already stated, 3P is doing that and it is doing well and making great toys

>>11716454
Sipher just couldn't sell Inafune an Overlord and was salty

>>11716589
you mean like Kranix and Liege and all their earlier toys?

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They should really have all the toys boxes show their death scenes like they did with Wheeljack.

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leaky leaky

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>>11715998
I think "amazing" is a stretch but given he's meant to be his Cybertronian form anyway I think they're fine. And whilst SS86 has better vehicle modes than Siege, they're not as much better than Siege's robot mode is compared to the trainwreck that is SS86. Also the tender is cool.

>>11716195
Good luck to you homie.

>>11716637
Cool, Deathcobra can do the arm rotor thing.

>>11716643
>SS86 has better vehicle modes
that shuttle looks like total shit. the train looks passable.
Fuck, even TR Broadside got two decent modes

>>11716661
>even TR Broadside got two decent modes
Is this bait?

>>11716670
what's wrong with his other two modes? Just the jet sucks

>>11716638
prime wars looking ass bots

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I don't really collect Transformers anymore but I did pick up Kingdom Sideswipe when he came out a few years ago and have been wanting a Sunstreaker that doesn't have mismatched paint or isn't locked in a 5 pack to go with him since then so this 86 repack makes me happy :)

>>11716570
>the Chinese are doing it better at smaller scale
and how much do they cost, anon?

>>11716638
>>11716637
Amazing enginering.

>>11716697
Greatly varied
They’re not made at the scale that Hasbro produces

>>11716636
>>11716637
>>11716638

Sweet. Can’t wait for mine.

>>11715466
what Key & Peele sketch is this from?

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>>11716630
Skywarp gets the moment prior to getting tossed out of Astrotrain to his death, if that helps.

>>11716742
>have the box mention he gets turned into Cyclonus just to piss off half the fandom.

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>>11716747
Funnily enough, Kingdom Cyclonus's blurb keeps it intentionally vague who he was reformatted from

>>11716637
Still looks like shit. Cool boxart though.

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I want an Optimus that goes with the other Primes. Star Convoy is way too large to fit with the group. Would Earthrise or S86 be work better?

>>11716869

Well, theres the old Gen Selects Star Convoy.

>>11716869
I like putting Devastation Prime with the group. He just feels like the right size in my head

>>11716636
>Deathcobra reacting with disgust at Killbison getting ready to flip him off

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A question for anyone who owns the Blokees Tarn or Yolopark one, but how poseable is Tarn's cute blue nugget friend Nickel?

I just realized something about the New Legends manga. So it’s established that Lio Convoy becomes Leo Prime and combines the Cybertron and Destron factions into one “Maximal” faction. It’s also shown that Bluebolts comes from a time period after these events, meaning the Car Robots Autobots really were Maximals in disguise all along

>>11716589
ah, the pokémon principle

>>11715600
>>11715644
It's in reverse, TFP Predacons hails from the TFP universe, just as Leo Prime came for the last time in this universe, his portal was open so that some Predacons went in it, to the G1 Universe, but got apprehended by the Primal Vanguard (Delta Magnus & his powerdrives)

Also seem coming from space to earth seems to be taken from a promotional GO! video https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Triple_Combination:_Transformers_Go!_(franchise)#Overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPEiBfFru0

>>11715639
>Japanese fans are obsessed with trying to tie everything back to G1
Yeah & it works, it rules

>>11715742
Notice how all of them, except one, hasn't got their torsos made of "unpaintable plastic"

On god, Hasbro is the king of shit ideas

>>11716939
Ehh, Bluebolt (the weapon) could exist at the same time he was still Lio Convoy, if not earlier

Fire Convoy & God Magnus are (twins?) brothers born by Vector Sigma + there's a HUGE amount of time since the ten thousands of years (10 000) from BWII & BWNeo, up to the hundred thousand of years (100 000) he was revived as Dark Amber Leo Prime

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>>11716939
>meaning the Car Robots Autobots really were Maximals in disguise all along
This has been basically know for a while, for whatever reason the tfwiki crowd tried to deny it or chalk it up to Japan being loose with continuity, when these sort of not-reboots aren't uncommon

>>11715639
it's funny because the american stuff is what keeps changing names for g1 synergy, but also we treat sentai like these guys treat transformers.

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>>11716056
Not that unusual. In the 3H comics, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker and Trailbreaker survived up to post-Beast Machines too.

>>11716939
>>11716975
They are not even different things over there per say. Destrons vs. Cybertrons is the catch all for Robot Lifeform and Beast Wars. Unless that got reworked like Convoy being changed to Optimus Prime thanks to the Bay films the Maximals and Predicons were just named their type of Autobots and Decpticons.

>>11716056
You are overthinking something made to sell toys and merc in general.

>>11716995
terrible attitude that leads to terrible media

>>11716973
>Yeah & it works, it rules
It’s also super confusing trying to figure out how everything fits together
>>11716975
I don’t think the TFWiki crowd tries to deny it, heck, a big part of RID's page is spent explaining how CR isn’t a reboot and continues on from Metals/Neo
>>11716993
I know, I was mostly just making a meta joke about the CR cast's time of origin

>>11716982
I know, but it still seems weird, at least in the case of Dai Atlas, he went off on excursions like this for long stretches of time.

>>11716638
I like the chunky helicopter mode

>>11716975
Oddly I thought this was true. Like Mack Alert is Mack Kick, Speedbreaker was Break.

>>11716636
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>>11716638
People will see this and unironically reddit soiface in excitement
Forgetting entirely what a total shitshow it is and how Haslab Omega Prime was basically a total scam

>>11717015
They’re separate characters, they’re just disguising themselves as Autobots in the modern day to not arise suspicion
>>11717020
Man, just let me be excited about a new Liokaiser

>>11717034
He's like this every HasLab, anon. Just ignore it.
>it's a scam
>they lied about the numbers
>it could have been sold at retail
>nobody wants this
>you got scammed

>>11716869
Earthrise is solid
Toon wise yea SS86
I think the G2 Optimus isn't so bad but the shoulders can be killer
The VNR or w/e is a better version of that mold
Or go APC for the TF Prime Optimus

Avoid that Siege Galaxy Prime
It's so utter ass

>>11717034
Oink oink must consoom

>>11717036
Keep sucking them off
Haslab has gotten worse and worse
How many times do you have to fall for a fucking $200+ "Crowd funded" release then get slapped with QC and a shitshow before you wise up?

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>>11716016
Omfg I can't believe we're still confused about this 30 years later.

Yaniger, senior, and galan, the 3 artist for g2, were chosen specifically because their sloppy, stylized aesthetic allowed them to produce the comic faster. They make a FUCKTON of mistakes, cause they are speed demons.
Hence why jhiaxus' leg missiles fucking disappear half the time.
So no, claiming that yaniger "slightly turned the head, which means this part is connected and this isn't" won't really cut it when he's about as precise as AKOM
Second, this is the description given by furman
"It was huge, perhaps
techno-organic in nature, with long, curled horns and
protrusions masking its bestial face. Eyes, as old the universe,
burned from the darkness, its mouth seethed with molten fury,
dribbling over dagger-like teeth. One arm was truncated,
ending in a cannon fuelled, it seemed to them, by a small sun."

Leaves no room for doubt

>>11717064
i always hate when cannon arms are truncated. cannon arms should always be LONGER than the normal arm would be, with the muzzle going beyond where the hand would.

>>11717047
>fucking $200+
this isn't a lot of money these days.

>>11717064
>So no, claiming that yaniger "slightly turned the head
The only small correction I have is that I think this page was by Senior, not Yaniger (despite Rook's large chin). I could be mistaken though. Other than that very minor note, your point absolutely stands. I'd never read Furman's actual description before, but the whole bit about, "its mouth seethed with molten fury, dribbling over dagger-like teeth," certainly seems it make it pretty certain that it is indeed intended to be his mouth. Thanks for the clarification.

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>>11717046
They were really handed a remake of Cybertron Prime on a silver platter and a Magnus retool was the best they could do, huh. At least they didn't cheap out on Armada Prime (for the most part)

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>>11717074
I made the same mistake at first, but yaniger is credited for book 4, senior worked on the earlier pages, where g2 combat prime shows up

Also, here's the original, non colored version of the alignment art.
Alignment makes it very obvious those are ships, furman talks a LOT about ships every time liege makes an appearance.

>>11717078
I should point out, THIS art is senior
He signed it
So senior clearly thought it was a mouth with whiskers too.

Also, look at yanigers non tf work and... Yeah, he has some common design elements

Anyone have any size comparisons of the Hot Rod that comes with Star Optimus and the Kingdom Core Class one? All the video reviews I watched never thought to compare the two and im curious how they scale

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My ShowZ Blokees Bruticus set finally showed up
He's nicer than I thought and had extensively more parts than the Devastator
I'm hoping the next one is a Superion

>>11717160
they're basically the exact same size. CC hot rod is kibblier though

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>>11716636
Why the fuck did God Fire Convoy get such ass box art compared to the other Jap characters.

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>>11717160
Mark Maher post a direct comparison in his Star Convoy post
>>11717195
Because he’s the only one whose original appearance was brought over to the States

>>11717034
Omega Prime was a legit shitshow, it has to be said. On the other hand hopefully that means somebody at the factory responsible got verbally eviscerated by Hasbro corporate and will try extra hard to make Liokaizer exceed expectations so Hasbro don't change factories. So there is some precedent for being excited about Liokaizer.

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>>11717205
I believe IF there was QC it's too far into production during Omega Prime so it more than likely won't be fixed and the NEXT Haslab (Probably Grandus or new Dai Atlas) will either be free of QC or have straggler shit

I feel like 75% of the Studio Series stuff I've been buying the past 2 years have had some kind of issue like parts not fitting in properly or a leg/arm being too loose. But mostly parts not fitting properly when in vehicle mode.

>>11717197
How has there not been a good core class/legends figure of Hot Rod?

The core class is very finiky and hollow, while the Star Convoy one has the spoiler on the knees which looks weird, and im not paying $150 for a mini hot rod.

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>>11717264
The mft one seems nice

>>11717238
Hasbro need to chuck the current factories and go back to the old ones we used to have when QC issues were bad luck and not a given.

>>11717269
Moving to Vietnam seems like it's been a blunder all around

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>>11717264
>Star Convoy one has the spoiler on the knees which looks weird

that's how it looked on the original Star Convoy